I use a similar dust collection system in my small wood shop. I added a dust bag inside the vac to guarantee the shop vac filter doesn't get clogged. This is working very well and I highly recommend it, especially for collecting sanding dust which due to it's small size/weight per grain has a higher tendency to make it into the shop vac.
Good video!! I didn't notice; when you attached the cyclone separator to the top of the bin, did you use a stiffening plate on the bottom of the lid, when fastening it together? It's a super idea! One thing for the future: I've been noticing that a lot of the people who are building boats, have obtained a pair of electric rechargeable scissors. They've been branded/stenciled with the names of boating supply companies. At about half the cost, you can purchase the exact same thing, usually under the DRITZ name, at most fabric/craft stores. Same two cutting tips, same body, same rechargeable batteries, same charging station. Also, extra batteries are available. Boats, as well as most truly fun toys, are EXPENSIVE!!! Trying to help with small amounts here and there, adds up to enormous savings in the long run. Enjoy the weekend and thank you for sharing!
Hey Leon! Thanks for the suggestion. We have already purchased rechargeable scissors, but keep the suggestions coming! We can use all the advice we can get! As for the lid, it was stiff enough on its own so that I didn't have to reinforce the top, but good idea. If I see it flexing, I'll add one later. We couldn't agree more about looking for savings, we have a limited budget to build this catamaran and it's pretty tight already. But, we have purchased the major systems so there shouldn't be any large 'gottachas', but little stuff can add up as well.
Another excellent vid. It's good that you let us know what's coming up, you may get some good suggestions on build techniques & materials etc. I wish we'd had one of those vacuum cyclone units to avoid filter clogging, it 2as a real PITA. FYI, re sandpaper, we found the 3M Cubitron II discs to be clearly superior on the random orbital. Re fairing, do you know the technique of trowelling on parallel lines of fairing with a square notched trowel first? The lines of compound about 3 or 4 inches apart vertically up the hull sides, then use a longboard with 80 grit to fair the ridges down to the required height above hull surface. Then trowel the compound in between all the faired ridges with your flexisander blade, and machine sand until compound is same level as the faired ridges which should be the minimum to deal with the lows. It helps to have the ridges a different colour than the remaining compound so they show up when you sand down to them. This is a real time saver, and leads to a better fairing job on a big job. Hopefully other boat builders can chime in f4om time to time to pass on what works.
Thanks Rob. I have heard of that technique, but please, keep the suggestions coming! We are not experts in building boats, we are learning as we go and can use all the help we can get. The only kit sailboat (a Mirror) I built was back when I was 11 years old, so a few years ago, OK, a bunch ;) . However I do have a question. How would I get the fairing compound to be a different color? I would ask if I could use two different brands, but that's not possible. All the fairing compound comes in our kit, so we have what we have.
@@SailingSVLynx Being based on epoxy you can colour epoxy with non oil based tints or if you want it darker you can sprinkle in some powdered charcoal/graphite powder. Don’t need much to create a slightly different shade. The manufacturer of the compound can advise you also. A slight refinement we used was not using square notches in the trowel we made from thin aluminium bar, but 45 degree angle V’s about 3 inches apart, cut with an angle grinder. Then when you are getting down to the top of the V being revealed, you can really dial in the amount of longboard sanding by the thickness of the V line. Its very thin at first ( the top of the V) and progressively thicker as you keep sanding down. Does that make sense?
@@SailingSVLynx We used the 6 inch mesh disks in grits from 80,120,240,320 & 400. The 400 were harder to find supply but are worth it, give a phenomenal finish and just keep working for about 3 to 4 times the surface area of other good quality discs. The vacuum dust extraction of the mesh is far superior to disks with holes, especially in the finer grits. They are purple in colour.
It shouldn't be a problem. As we understand it most creaking on cats is due to how mass production companies construct their catamarans. They use modular furniture pieces that drop in. Then, as the boat flexes, the separate furniture moves and rubs against the structure of the boat and it creaks. With the way that the Schionning boats are constructed, like all the bulkheads, all the furniture is part of the structure and tabbed into the boat. It creates a very stiff and strong boat that doesn't creak. But that's just what we have been told. Maybe others who have owned Schionning cats or others brands can chime in.
@@SailingSVLynx That makes sense, I’ve never been on a Schionning Cat but hopefully I’ll get to see yours anchored in Puerto Rico in the near future. Best of luck guys !
I watching the motor episode I would suggest adding the second diesel motor I know it’s overkill but it’s easily done now and it would balance the stern you would have to have a second control And more diesel
Though we appreciate your suggestion, we have made our purchase and will be going with our current system. It was based off of another 50' cat that did a full circumnavigation with this exact setup and highly recommended it. We'll see how it goes. :)
I'm looking forward to the build and appreciate the thoroughness of your videos. Cheers from Australia.
Yeah, we are excited to get started! Four weeks until the kit arrives in Long Beach, CA!
That combi system looks amazing! Sure it will work great!
Yeah, we like what we see so far.
I use a similar dust collection system in my small wood shop. I added a dust bag inside the vac to guarantee the shop vac filter doesn't get clogged. This is working very well and I highly recommend it, especially for collecting sanding dust which due to it's small size/weight per grain has a higher tendency to make it into the shop vac.
If you could, send me a picture of dust bag, that would be helpful. There is a contact page on our website www.svlynx.com
Good video!! I didn't notice; when you attached the cyclone separator to the top of the bin, did you use a stiffening plate on the bottom of the lid, when fastening it together? It's a super idea!
One thing for the future: I've been noticing that a lot of the people who are building boats, have obtained a pair of electric rechargeable scissors. They've been branded/stenciled with the names of boating supply companies. At about half the cost, you can purchase the exact same thing, usually under the DRITZ name, at most fabric/craft stores. Same two cutting tips, same body, same rechargeable batteries, same charging station. Also, extra batteries are available.
Boats, as well as most truly fun toys, are EXPENSIVE!!! Trying to help with small amounts here and there, adds up to enormous savings in the long run.
Enjoy the weekend and thank you for sharing!
Hey Leon! Thanks for the suggestion. We have already purchased rechargeable scissors, but keep the suggestions coming! We can use all the advice we can get! As for the lid, it was stiff enough on its own so that I didn't have to reinforce the top, but good idea. If I see it flexing, I'll add one later. We couldn't agree more about looking for savings, we have a limited budget to build this catamaran and it's pretty tight already. But, we have purchased the major systems so there shouldn't be any large 'gottachas', but little stuff can add up as well.
Loving these videos
We're glad you are enjoying them.
Another excellent vid. It's good that you let us know what's coming up, you may get some good suggestions on build techniques & materials etc. I wish we'd had one of those vacuum cyclone units to avoid filter clogging, it 2as a real PITA.
FYI, re sandpaper, we found the 3M Cubitron II discs to be clearly superior on the random orbital. Re fairing, do you know the technique of trowelling on parallel lines of fairing with a square notched trowel first? The lines of compound about 3 or 4 inches apart vertically up the hull sides, then use a longboard with 80 grit to fair the ridges down to the required height above hull surface. Then trowel the compound in between all the faired ridges with your flexisander blade, and machine sand until compound is same level as the faired ridges which should be the minimum to deal with the lows. It helps to have the ridges a different colour than the remaining compound so they show up when you sand down to them. This is a real time saver, and leads to a better fairing job on a big job.
Hopefully other boat builders can chime in f4om time to time to pass on what works.
Thanks Rob. I have heard of that technique, but please, keep the suggestions coming! We are not experts in building boats, we are learning as we go and can use all the help we can get. The only kit sailboat (a Mirror) I built was back when I was 11 years old, so a few years ago, OK, a bunch ;) . However I do have a question. How would I get the fairing compound to be a different color? I would ask if I could use two different brands, but that's not possible. All the fairing compound comes in our kit, so we have what we have.
@@SailingSVLynx Being based on epoxy you can colour epoxy with non oil based tints or if you want it darker you can sprinkle in some powdered charcoal/graphite powder. Don’t need much to create a slightly different shade. The manufacturer of the compound can advise you also.
A slight refinement we used was not using square notches in the trowel we made from thin aluminium bar, but 45 degree angle V’s about 3 inches apart, cut with an angle grinder. Then when you are getting down to the top of the V being revealed, you can really dial in the amount of longboard sanding by the thickness of the V line. Its very thin at first ( the top of the V) and progressively thicker as you keep sanding down. Does that make sense?
@@robthompson7174 Absolutely! Great innovation that we will steal ;) I'll give you credit lol
Which 3M Cubitron II disks did you use? There seem to be a lot of styles under that name.
@@SailingSVLynx We used the 6 inch mesh disks in grits from 80,120,240,320 & 400. The 400 were harder to find supply but are worth it, give a phenomenal finish and just keep working for about 3 to 4 times the surface area of other good quality discs. The vacuum dust extraction of the mesh is far superior to disks with holes, especially in the finer grits. They are purple in colour.
Looking forward to this build, I’m wondering how are you guys gonna mitigate the creaking on the boat.
It shouldn't be a problem. As we understand it most creaking on cats is due to how mass production companies construct their catamarans. They use modular furniture pieces that drop in. Then, as the boat flexes, the separate furniture moves and rubs against the structure of the boat and it creaks. With the way that the Schionning boats are constructed, like all the bulkheads, all the furniture is part of the structure and tabbed into the boat. It creates a very stiff and strong boat that doesn't creak. But that's just what we have been told. Maybe others who have owned Schionning cats or others brands can chime in.
@@SailingSVLynx That makes sense, I’ve never been on a Schionning Cat but hopefully I’ll get to see yours anchored in Puerto Rico in the near future. Best of luck guys !
It may take a few years, but we will reach Puerto Rico. You will have to give us a tour!
It would be my pleasure, also if you ever in need of Continuous Filament Fiberglass Mat message me.
I watching the motor episode I would suggest adding the second diesel motor I know it’s overkill but it’s easily done now and it would balance the stern you would have to have a second control And more diesel
Though we appreciate your suggestion, we have made our purchase and will be going with our current system. It was based off of another 50' cat that did a full circumnavigation with this exact setup and highly recommended it. We'll see how it goes. :)
Please stop spinning all your combi videos.
Those videos were all made some time ago, so there isn't anything we can do about it now.
Don't get me wrong, your videos are very informative, and well done. I just get nauseous looking at that part.@@SailingSVLynx