Sand blasting the bottom is a good way to get the old bottom paint off quickly. Here in the US most people use baking soda instead of sand because it is less abrasive, but still works well. The big advantages of blasting the hull are 1) It is fast (1-2 days) and 2) It leaves a good surface for fiberglass work. There is only one real negative and that is that it costs $$$. Back in 1996 I had the bottom of my Allied 36 sand blasted. It cost about $1,000 US, but that was 26 years ago. The only hard part of that job was paying for it. After that I did an epoxy bottom job. The keel can be flushed with clean water then with a solvent like acetone to dry it out. Once that is done inject epoxy into the cavity, glass up the holes and Bob's your uncle. Also grind out the old keel repair, put a few layers of 1808 biaxial fabric on with epoxy and that area will be good as new. You have made a lot of progress.
Many people have suggested soda or walnut. We'll look into this. First job is to open the delamination on the keel to get air dry and to have a poke about. Sorry for the late reply, we've been hibernating. 😃
A good way to easily check your bilge is to install a deck plate on the cabin floor with a clear lid. Every time you walk by, you can see if there is any water. From the cockpit you can shine a flashlight 🔦 on it to also check for water. I love what you two are doing.
Great to see a summary of everything that hasn't featured in past videos of the "new" boat. You've made great progress! I hope that some day I can achieve Stuarts level of chill 🤣
Hi folks, always plenty to do. Wish you well on your away time and next year trust you make a lot of progress. A lot of refitting you've planned to make it practical and nice looking. Love your voice and giggles and Stewart is so masculine and matter-of-fact. Thanks much and I look forward to your other succeeding ones
You have been doing an amazing job, and by the time you have done with her, Seabird is going to be a fabulous yacht! Good luck with being back at work, and all the best for winter!
The hardest and messiest jobs are behind you. Clean slate is best. You both work so well together; it has been a total pleasure watching you accomplish soo much. My husband (69) and I (soon to be 66) just finished a 2 year project refurbishing a 1966 wooden Grand Banks 32. We tried to do as much of the work ourselves as we could, with the exception of the engine refit and completely all new wiring and electronics. We just finished it a month ago. We are in shock! Now what?! We LOVED the project. We will cruise it all next year, and then reassess. Keep cruising….or another project!!? Redoing a canal barge in England to go to maybe??? Who knows! …………..Continued success to you both. The journey is the most important. Enjoy!
Hi Guys! Sorry I missed the live stream. Will try to make the next one. So happy to see this new video. Cant wait to see how this all turns out when you finish with the boat. Keep up the good work!
A 3 CFM 2 Stage Vacuum Pump for your Keel, attach to the lowest point ( hole) Plug all the holes that you can find in it. Have a intermediate source to catch water drawn out of the keel. You can also use Electric Heat pads on the Keel to heat the water to help evaporate the water inside as it's being drawn out. Check often with your moister meter. This should draw in the fiber glass to the sides of the keel also. Once dry you'll need to setup a system where you can draw epoxy under vacuum from one end to the other think top to bottom, epoxy on top diagonally vacuum lower with a set of valves so your pump doesn't suck the epoxy into it but keeping it all under vacuum while epoxy sets . This would also find any leaks into the keel so you can seal them. This would save the integrity of the hull also. Was a Joiner at Chris Craft and Roamer Yachts they saved hulls the delaminated this way.
Amazing, when I first viewed this channel, the interior of Sea Bird was quite a mess. Now, with the engine gone, she is very livable. Best in the future!
I think “combing” is the word you were looking for vis-a-vis the cockpit. Evidently, there is a dye that shows up cracks in fiberglass similar to it’s counterpart in the non- destructive testing of metal. This may be an aid to you in the bilge over the keel. Judging by the repair on the bottom of the keel, at some time Seabird took some sort of whack down there. While not overly concerning, sussing out the cracks in the bilge might be a good thing to put minds at rest, and of course to seal up the boat. And the boat works and flexes as it sails as well. Have a good winter. Enjoy the snow and lack of mosquitoes. I’ve compiled some info for you, but have to get a new devise going to have e-mail out.
I see your project on one side and your dreams on the other. Let battle commence! Am looking forward to this and will smile at every one of your attacks and your eventual, triumphant victory 😊
Fantastic effort, you achieved heaps, well done. I love the aft locker for extra crap, inflatables etc. Also i love the bowsprit. Spruce it up a little, put a seat in the railing, will be great place to relax, watch the dolphins, check for reefs etc.
I hope you put a wood frame for a tarp and tie it down well so you have no chance of rainwater entering your boat all winter. Thanks for sharing you life.
Very nice tour. I can see a very comfortable vessel when you get all your projects completed. You will have a boat you can be proud of that will be uniquely yours. Looking forward to following your journey of repair and rebuild as you transform "Seabird" to a thing of beauty. Take care, be safe and toil on.
Sometimes things take time but for what you have done so far it's looking pretty good on top and more work to done downstairs you will eventually have what your dream about. It's coming back to life seabird will be a beautiful boat when you finish. Look forward to seeing your next video.
Sailing Uma had many trials to get an ideal electric configuration together. They were helped by suppliers. Bon chance, courage, voyages, appetitoes etc. ☝️❤️🌍
The Lofrans Tigris is a very good windlass. If there is any issue it is easily serviceable. You might want to change the oil in the gearbox. The hole is where the chain goes down to the chain locker, which is usually a separate compartment. You will also want to check out the wiring and control box. It draws a lot of current, important to have good connections.
Hiya Chris, We are thinking of putting a battery up front for the windlass. I'm sure we'll land up stripping the windlass and rebuilding it with added grease. 😉 Cheers for watching 😃
If you intend to stay with a gas cooker, keep the outside locker that is vented overboard as gas is heavier than air. Look at getting an expansion plug from a plumbing supplier to plug the chain hole for the winter, these go in the hole and expand out to seal.
Hiya Steve, We are thinking about mounting the gas on the pushpit. Just not sure on what fittings to use. Plus we got a "new to us" gas cooker. Cheers for watching 😃
She is going to be a great boat. Wondering about drilling from the bilge into the keel (where the water got in) then pouring a slow cure epoxy in. We recommend composting toilets (especially convenient when in the boatyard). Our Rival 38 Centre Cockpit Ketch has a fairly similar layout. As you get older having a loo close to the bed is very handy 🤣Plus not sure about wanting the humidity of a shower close to our bed. Our forward head includes the corridor to the forecabin so is larger (and in ours more headroom) so better for the shower (and day head and hanging stuff to drip). We are also having to build new cabin sole and water tanks so we are building them with the hull as part of the tank and the cabin sole as the lid to maximise capacity and allow the hull to be accessed. We have the same windlass, going to make a box seat to protect it from waves and reduce water down the chain pipe.
The heads aft are larger... Would rather have stowage and one heads forward. Thinking the same with the epoxy from the bilge. Then layer up the bilge and the keel. We'll investigate further. Cheers for the advice
Wow guys... The transformation of the boat so far has been pretty impressive. Congratulations 🙂 As far as the auxiliary rudder, as you know the hydrovane was beinf removed from my Westerly, and that's being replaced with a stern-hung rudder that it tiller operated (using heavy-duty gudgeons & pintles, the same as a dinghy rudder). Electric auto-helm will therefore use it, and the wind-vane will be a custom built unit that also operates the tiller. The whole lot get's taken off & dismantled when going into a marina. I'll post a video about it early in the spring...
I worked, before I retired, at Victoria shipyards in Victoria bc Canada. I used to blast walnut shells and it gives a good finish on glass if you're careful. Plastic beads are usually too expensive, but are the best. I wouldn't advise using sand. It , in the wrong hands can cause a lot of damage.
The door into the V birth… could you install a sliding door on the cabin side? With sliders on top and bottom, it would save all the space a door takes. More sliders the better on a boat. Would need to be closed when underway of course
Well done cleaning out the boat. When you get back i highly recommend you tackle the delaminated keel. If it proves an impossible repair you can walk away and if successful you'll build on a solid foundation.
What a great tour. I think you guys rock! I hear you mention (Actually all the shows I watch mention this) that you get negative feedback from viewers about "You did not have hearing protection on while filling your tire with air!!" or "I would never pick that color for my topping lift!" etc, and I wonder how folks like you can stand it sometimes. LOL. But I do feel like the choice to redo an older, pretty decent boat, as you have picked, is a brilliant one. I for one love to watch how you think through the decisions of what to do with the problem spots. I prefer the repair part of the videos to the sailing parts. But that is just me. So now you have two years worth of really cool content material for free! :) Ok! For a dollar.
buy polyester white pigment and mix it into polyester resin before adding the hardner. Use this without fibreglass cloth and paint it with a brush Mix a small amount that can be painted before it starts to go off. It comes up with a nice waxy durable finish that can be cleaned easily.
I believe you were talking about 'baking soda' blasting and not 'dry ice'.... baking soda will not etch glass, it disinfects, it de- greases and its safe for plants and the earth. It also does not impose too much heat as sand does. It's a win.
Dry ice blasting is still a thing and meant to be excellent, but you need specialized dry ice blaster which is probably expensive, and the dryice is probably very expensive aswell.
Cheers Timmy. With selling the other boat and organising all of our stuff, last season we didn't achieve as much as we'd have liked. Excited to return and crack on. Thanks for watching
Great work enjoy your boat tour you both are such a lovely couple supportive and energetic.. One day the sun will rise on the east horizon and set in the west and you will sail under the galaxies of stars.
I've always thought of Stuart as British because of his accent and the fact that he grew up in the UK but i have to admit that I had a good chuckle to myself hearing the good old South African slang come out in this episode "50 Bucks" its a dead give away of the South African influence.
I didn't know there was anything uniquely south African, or any other nationality for that matter about either of those terms. I've heard and used both of them and I've never been to South Africa or Germany
I had the exact same windlass and it was a wonderful piece of gear, high quality and very reliable. All we did was keep a bundled rag to stuff the hole to the chain locker. Note those windlasses draw a lot of current and placing a large starting battery forward close to the windlass works really well.
Love to know your thoughts on going electric yourself, similar to UMA, initially not cheap, but I think will save you money long term ??? Mahoosive battery bank where the engine used to be ??? Forklift batteries for extra power storage ??, or even build your own power bank ?? Will prowse on YT is your main man for anything solar or batteries, he doesn’t mess about !!, great vid and love your channel, thanks guys
Wow, that's quite a project! I'm guessing you guys are strapped for money, but you've got each other. Make sure you show each other even more care and concern that you show the boat. : ) I suppose I would just try to inject epoxy where the ballast has separated. I think you can get by with sand for the sandblasting. Just have a very light hand with it. Lots of other materials can be used. Crushed glass... I've heard of using crushed walnut shells, but that was on small delicate parts. Best wishes.
That bottom part of the woodwork that is discoloured by water, you could cut it out and use the discarded wood as a form to cut some coloured acrylplast, which then could be glasfibered/epoxied into place, or replace the whole board with an acrylplast board. It will never get miscoloured again, never need paint and would modernize the interior.
Cheers for the advice. We'll look into our options. Thanks for watching ☺️
8 หลายเดือนก่อน
Hi, you say, that in your old yacht cabin wasent conected with galey... so... why you bought new vessel? you can used fiberglass and connected back with the front on the old vessel ( i think)....
That is going to be a very pleasant place to live when you get there. So much space and storage which makes all the difference in a live aboard The progress your making is perhaps considerably more than you realise whilst living there. Incidentally, I have used a mildly foaming resin to void fill and rebond the layers in a caravan composite sandwich floor. It worked extremely well and has lasted over five years now with no signs of deterioration whatsoever. This might be a solution for the delamination in the keel. I will see if I can track down what it was and where I got it. The delamination problem was a common issue in the composite floors of early 1990s caravans if you want to google it.
A couple thoughts, we had a similar sized boat and our favorite space underway was our aft deck area, similar size to yours IF you get rid of that aweful deck box. Remember you need to keep the weight to a minimum at each end of the boat and a huge aft deck locker works completely against that.
@@SailingSeabird Yep...here in Australia we are into autumn. Which means spring on your side of the world. Fortuneatly where I live in Toowoomba the only time we get snow is about once every 30 or 40 years (😁). If conditions are right. Which is enough snow for me. 😉
I have a Whitlock steering pedestal removed from a Vancouver 34, the whole system including the quadrant is complete, Missing only the wheel. It was removed to make the boat have tiller steering for the Golden Globe Race. This might be a solution to replace your hydraulic system?
Hiya Daniel, Thanks for the offer. We love hydraulic steering. Steer without toe. Had it on our last boat. It's crazy how similar this boat it, just that bit more space. Cheers for watching 😃
I love watching you both, when do you think you might get around to starting to work on things? Painting the engine area, or building? or is that a matter of lack of funds?
Congratulations on buying your boat. I have questions please answer. 1. What do you do at night when you are sleeping and boat is sailing ⛵️? 2. How do you secure your utensils in rough season. 3. What is the security when you are asleep. Robbers etc. Thank you
There are softer power blasting media available, such as Plastic, ground up walnut husks, baking soda and glass beads, that will remove the bottom paint without tearing up the Fiberglas.
Were the wood is stained from water damage. all you need to do is cut the damaged wood out and in fill with new marine ply. and fill the joints with apoxy. and to make you feel better about it coat the ply in apoxy thin out as you cover it. that`s the quickest way of dealing with the water damage. you can then stain it after its complete saves ripping it all out
Cheers for the advice. Dreaming of the woodwork, that's a great job. Relaxed, clean, enjoyable. Before then a lot of fibreglass work! Cheers for watching 😃
Looks like you’re in a very good place with interior , there doesn’t seem to be much more screaming “strip me out” as you show us around the boat. When will you be back to working on the boat in the new year ? 😃🍻
The place where the stantions meet the deck in the middle of the boat, I have seen someone epoxy a plastic drainpipe through the glasfibre so that water could run out instead of collecting.
Good information, I have been watching your videos and was wondering about a few items/projects' goings on of the boats, past and present. With this video info coupled to your recent pod cast that I watched I now have a comfortable understanding of it all. Wich means I will be enjoying your video offerings even more in the future. Thank you and I wish you "All the Best". "Parker"
Hi you two ..glad your getting some help with the wombling ... If youve not got one nows a good time to figure out insulation and where to put a heater... see sailing Umas solid fuel stove though the Dutch do some nice little diesel stoves.. Remember insulation works both ways.
Hiya Clive, Sorry for the late reply. Looking at armaflex (I think that's the name) And with the heating, thinking of a wood burner but Marina says let's go south! (The burner would even be in the same place as Uma) We'll be back soon to carry on. Cheers for watching 😃
Hey Stuart and Marina .. if you are in need for a Corian countertop for the dayhead .. please send me a message .. I have some leftovers.. so I will help you for free 🍀
I wouldn’t be to concerned about the voids between the hull and the lead ballast, the lead and fibreglass would never have been bonded together. I would make sure it’s nice and dry fill all the hoes that you made and maybe sand back where the holes are and put a couple layers of glass over that area just for peace of mind. Keep up the good work.👍👍
Check the Facebook group. I had the same problem withe the keel with my 41. The ballast probably is concrete and lead. There'll probably be some concrete rot aswel. Check if the bilgefloor underneath the engine is laminated. Mostly it is some thick paint that's cracked because of age and leaks water in to the keel. also check the rudder/skeg shoe. Because of its age it could be worn out. that hole on the anchor winch, check the balsa, protect the core. Just a few things :)
Sand blasting the bottom is a good way to get the old bottom paint off quickly. Here in the US most people use baking soda instead of sand because it is less abrasive, but still works well. The big advantages of blasting the hull are 1) It is fast (1-2 days) and 2) It leaves a good surface for fiberglass work. There is only one real negative and that is that it costs $$$. Back in 1996 I had the bottom of my Allied 36 sand blasted. It cost about $1,000 US, but that was 26 years ago. The only hard part of that job was paying for it. After that I did an epoxy bottom job.
The keel can be flushed with clean water then with a solvent like acetone to dry it out. Once that is done inject epoxy into the cavity, glass up the holes and Bob's your uncle. Also grind out the old keel repair, put a few layers of 1808 biaxial fabric on with epoxy and that area will be good as new.
You have made a lot of progress.
Yea there is a few demos on the use of baking soda, does a real nice job, isn't expensive, easy to get and cleans up with water.
Many people have suggested soda or walnut.
We'll look into this.
First job is to open the delamination on the keel to get air dry and to have a poke about.
Sorry for the late reply, we've been hibernating.
😃
A good way to easily check your bilge is to install a deck plate on the cabin floor with a clear lid. Every time you walk by, you can see if there is any water. From the cockpit you can shine a flashlight 🔦 on it to also check for water. I love what you two are doing.
A huge job for sure. But what a nice layout. It's going to pay dividends for sure. Very entertaining as well. Wish you all the best!
Thanks a bunch!
Great to see a summary of everything that hasn't featured in past videos of the "new" boat. You've made great progress!
I hope that some day I can achieve Stuarts level of chill 🤣
Hi Tim,
Not always that chill...
Sorry for the late reply, full hibernation mode.
We back soon, can't wait.
Cheers for watching 😃
Hi folks, always plenty to do. Wish you well on your away time and next year trust you make a lot of progress. A lot of refitting you've planned to make it practical and nice looking. Love your voice and giggles and Stewart is so masculine and matter-of-fact. Thanks much and I look forward to your other succeeding ones
Hiya Jim,
It's a marathon not a sprint.
Cheers for watching 😃
You have been doing an amazing job, and by the time you have done with her, Seabird is going to be a fabulous yacht! Good luck with being back at work, and all the best for winter!
Hiya Ray,
As you can tell from the late reply, we've been busy working.
Looking forward to returning to the boat.
Cheers for watching 😃
I am so glad to see that you all bought a bigger Boat and started a new Project. Wish you a Success..!!!
Thanks so much!
Cheers for watching 😃
Your boat looks much better than the first day you looked at it. I’m sure it will be beautiful when you are finished .
Only time will tell
😂🤣😂
Cheers for the encouragement
The hardest and messiest jobs are behind you. Clean slate is best. You both work so well together; it has been a total pleasure watching you accomplish soo much.
My husband (69) and I (soon to be 66) just finished a 2 year project refurbishing a 1966 wooden Grand Banks 32. We tried to do as much of the work ourselves as we could, with the exception of the engine refit and completely all new wiring and electronics. We just finished it a month ago. We are in shock! Now what?! We LOVED the project. We will cruise it all next year, and then reassess. Keep cruising….or another project!!? Redoing a canal barge in England to go to maybe??? Who knows!
…………..Continued success to you both. The journey is the most important. Enjoy!
Hiya,
Well done on completing your project.
We look forward to that day.
Cheers for watching 😃
It's getting there. Much work but little by little progress is made. 👍
You got that right!
Little and often...
Cheers for watching 😃
Hi Guys! Sorry I missed the live stream. Will try to make the next one. So happy to see this new video. Cant wait to see how this all turns out when you finish with the boat. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Buck! Hopefully we do a good job 😅
Keep things flexible until you are certain!
That's it.
I feel the boat and us always find a compromise.
Got to let things flow.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Yep sand blast it, your not going to do anymore damage to it 😂 Wow Simon what a nice bloke!!!
We sanded, for months and months.
Hopefully, we'll get some paint on this year.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Great video about the boat process...and alittle about previous boat
Glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers for watching 🙂
A 3 CFM 2 Stage Vacuum Pump for your Keel, attach to the lowest point ( hole) Plug all the holes that you can find in it. Have a intermediate source to catch water drawn out of the keel. You can also use Electric Heat pads on the Keel to heat the water to help evaporate the water inside as it's being drawn out. Check often with your moister meter. This should draw in the fiber glass to the sides of the keel also. Once dry you'll need to setup a system where you can draw epoxy under vacuum from one end to the other think top to bottom, epoxy on top diagonally vacuum lower with a set of valves so your pump doesn't suck the epoxy into it but keeping it all under vacuum while epoxy sets . This would also find any leaks into the keel so you can seal them. This would save the integrity of the hull also. Was a Joiner at Chris Craft and Roamer Yachts they saved hulls the delaminated this way.
Great advice!
Thanks 😊
We wish you both luck and craftmanship in this project.
Hopefully we can see you happy sailing in the future.
Hi Jan,
Thanks so much for your positive message.
Cheers for watching 😃
'Escape to the Bateau' 😀 All looking good! A journey of a thousand nautical miles starts with a single step.
So true.
Thanks mate 😉
Amazing, when I first viewed this channel, the interior of Sea Bird was quite a mess. Now, with the engine gone, she is very livable. Best in the future!
David,
Thanks you for the vote of confidence. Slowly slowly
Cheers for watching 😃
I love watching your journey! Thanks for sharing.
Hiya Daryl.
Cheers for watching, glad you enjoy 😉
Alot of work fellas but I'm sure you'll work your way through it all Goodluck..Garry
Cheers Garry 🍻
I think “combing” is the word you were looking for vis-a-vis the cockpit. Evidently, there is a dye that shows up cracks in fiberglass similar to it’s counterpart in the non- destructive testing of metal. This may be an aid to you in the bilge over the keel. Judging by the repair on the bottom of the keel, at some time Seabird took some sort of whack down there. While not overly concerning, sussing out the cracks in the bilge might be a good thing to put minds at rest, and of course to seal up the boat. And the boat works and flexes as it sails as well. Have a good winter. Enjoy the snow and lack of mosquitoes. I’ve compiled some info for you, but have to get a new devise going to have e-mail out.
Great idea.
We'll try and find this dye.
Any clue on a product name?
Sorry for the late reply.
I see your project on one side and your dreams on the other. Let battle commence!
Am looking forward to this and will smile at every one of your attacks and your eventual, triumphant victory 😊
Cheers Rod,
Sorry for the late reply.
Soon the battle will commence, its going to be fun.
Thanks for watching 🙂
I love a project, but this is a huge project. I'm not sure I'll live long enough to see you finish.
Hopefully you will.
Hopefully we will
Cheers for watching 😃
That’s right Stuart you have a dream and we all love the fact we are following your dream 😊
Hiya Paul,
Sorry for the late reply.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Cheers for watching 😃
Fantastic effort, you achieved heaps, well done. I love the aft locker for extra crap, inflatables etc. Also i love the bowsprit. Spruce it up a little, put a seat in the railing, will be great place to relax, watch the dolphins, check for reefs etc.
Hiya Chris,
We are not sold either way...
There's no need to think about it right now.
Cheers for watching 😃
Seabird is looking good. I really like her looks. If you make a good job of her she will be fantastic. Have a good ski season.
Cheers Neale,
Season nearly done.
Super excited to be going home.
Thanks gor watching, sorry for the late reply.
I hope you put a wood frame for a tarp and tie it down well so you have no chance of rainwater entering your boat all winter. Thanks for sharing you life.
Great idea, but the winds in this area.
Plus, it's only water...
Cheers for watching 😃
Very nice tour. I can see a very comfortable vessel when you get all your projects completed. You will have a boat you can be proud of that will be uniquely yours. Looking forward to following your journey of repair and rebuild as you transform "Seabird" to a thing of beauty. Take care, be safe and toil on.
Hiya John,
Must apologise for the last response.
Slowly slowly we'll get it homely.
There is a lot to do but "little and often"
Cheers for watching 😃
Superb tour! What a great boat, you’ve chosen. Congratulations on your work, thus far. Love you guys! 💕💕💕😎
Hiya Mary,
Thank you for your ongoing engagement. We look forward to your comments.
Cheers for watching, we'll be back soon.
GREAT to hear from you! Excited for your return! 💕😎💕😎💕👍👍👍
Sometimes things take time but for what you have done so far it's looking pretty good on top and more work to done downstairs you will eventually have what your dream about. It's coming back to life seabird will be a beautiful boat when you finish.
Look forward to seeing your next video.
Thanks Mike,
Cheers for watching 😃
Can’t wait for next continuing of the work in seabird 😅
Cheers Brian. We are already missing boat life, plus there's no snow!
Great to see how far you’ve come already 🙌 🎉 we also did a boat tour about 6mths ago, will be good to look back on one day 😅
Hiya Parrot Crew,
That's why it's great making videos. Years along, you'll see your journey.
Cheers for watching 😃
It's got the bare bones of a beautiful boat!
Hi Robert,
That's what attracted us to her in the first place.
Cheers for watching 😃
Sailing Uma had many trials to get an ideal electric configuration together. They were helped by suppliers. Bon chance, courage, voyages, appetitoes etc. ☝️❤️🌍
Thanks for the info!
Love your Optimasim and positive out look. Stay at it. Good Luck !!!!
Hiya Dan,
Cheers mate 😊
The Lofrans Tigris is a very good windlass. If there is any issue it is easily serviceable. You might want to change the oil in the gearbox. The hole is where the chain goes down to the chain locker, which is usually a separate compartment. You will also want to check out the wiring and control box. It draws a lot of current, important to have good connections.
Hiya Chris,
We are thinking of putting a battery up front for the windlass.
I'm sure we'll land up stripping the windlass and rebuilding it with added grease. 😉
Cheers for watching 😃
If you intend to stay with a gas cooker, keep the outside locker that is vented overboard as gas is heavier than air. Look at getting an expansion plug from a plumbing supplier to plug the chain hole for the winter, these go in the hole and expand out to seal.
Hiya Steve,
We are thinking about mounting the gas on the pushpit. Just not sure on what fittings to use.
Plus we got a "new to us" gas cooker.
Cheers for watching 😃
She is going to be a great boat.
Wondering about drilling from the bilge into the keel (where the water got in) then pouring a slow cure epoxy in.
We recommend composting toilets (especially convenient when in the boatyard). Our Rival 38 Centre Cockpit Ketch has a fairly similar layout. As you get older having a loo close to the bed is very handy 🤣Plus not sure about wanting the humidity of a shower close to our bed. Our forward head includes the corridor to the forecabin so is larger (and in ours more headroom) so better for the shower (and day head and hanging stuff to drip).
We are also having to build new cabin sole and water tanks so we are building them with the hull as part of the tank and the cabin sole as the lid to maximise capacity and allow the hull to be accessed.
We have the same windlass, going to make a box seat to protect it from waves and reduce water down the chain pipe.
The heads aft are larger...
Would rather have stowage and one heads forward.
Thinking the same with the epoxy from the bilge. Then layer up the bilge and the keel.
We'll investigate further.
Cheers for the advice
Wow guys... The transformation of the boat so far has been pretty impressive.
Congratulations 🙂
As far as the auxiliary rudder, as you know the hydrovane was beinf removed from my Westerly, and that's being replaced with a stern-hung rudder that it tiller operated (using heavy-duty gudgeons & pintles, the same as a dinghy rudder). Electric auto-helm will therefore use it, and the wind-vane will be a custom built unit that also operates the tiller.
The whole lot get's taken off & dismantled when going into a marina.
I'll post a video about it early in the spring...
Hiya Adrian,
Sounds pretty cool. We'll be eager to watch.
Sorry for the late reply.
Cheers for watching 😃
Don't give up guys. You are doing a great job 👍
Cheers Brett 🍻
I worked, before I retired, at Victoria shipyards in Victoria bc Canada. I used to blast walnut shells and it gives a good finish on glass if you're careful. Plastic beads are usually too expensive, but are the best. I wouldn't advise using sand. It , in the wrong hands can cause a lot of damage.
Thanks for the advice Keith.
Not sure what would be the best solution, not yet anyways...
Cheers for watching 😃
The door into the V birth… could you install a sliding door on the cabin side? With sliders on top and bottom, it would save all the space a door takes. More sliders the better on a boat. Would need to be closed when underway of course
Great idea, Shane.
We'll see what the boss says...
Cheers for watching 😃
Well done cleaning out the boat. When you get back i highly recommend you tackle the delaminated keel. If it proves an impossible repair you can walk away and if successful you'll build on a solid foundation.
Hiya,
That keel is on our mind, a lot.
I think we have a plan.
Is a start...
Cheers again for watching 😃
What a great tour. I think you guys rock! I hear you mention (Actually all the shows I watch mention this) that you get negative feedback from viewers about "You did not have hearing protection on while filling your tire with air!!" or "I would never pick that color for my topping lift!" etc, and I wonder how folks like you can stand it sometimes. LOL. But I do feel like the choice to redo an older, pretty decent boat, as you have picked, is a brilliant one. I for one love to watch how you think through the decisions of what to do with the problem spots. I prefer the repair part of the videos to the sailing parts. But that is just me. So now you have two years worth of really cool content material for free! :) Ok! For a dollar.
We'll be back soon!!!
Cheers for watching.
Always wear ear protection 🤣
buy polyester white pigment and mix it into polyester resin before adding the hardner.
Use this without fibreglass cloth and paint it with a brush
Mix a small amount that can be painted before it starts to go off.
It comes up with a nice waxy durable finish that can be cleaned easily.
Thanks for the tips!
Cheers Peter. 🍻
I believe you were talking about 'baking soda' blasting and not 'dry ice'.... baking soda will not etch glass, it disinfects, it de- greases and its safe for plants and the earth. It also does not impose too much heat as sand does. It's a win.
Something like that 🤣
Dry ice blasting is still a thing and meant to be excellent, but you need specialized dry ice blaster which is probably expensive, and the dryice is probably very expensive aswell.
Love the enthusiasm. Big project, like the fact you got stuck in and I’m sure next year you’ll make heaps of progress
Cheers Timmy.
With selling the other boat and organising all of our stuff, last season we didn't achieve as much as we'd have liked.
Excited to return and crack on.
Thanks for watching
Find a bit of fiber glass scrap practice blasting on it and try different materials to try blast with .
Great advice
Cheers for watching 😃
With your determination you will succeed she has a lovely layout good luck
Hiya Kevin,
For every problem there is a solution.
Cheers for watching 😃
That is a VERY nice windlass. Not your average Walmart brand lewmar crap windlass that'll break in 60 days or less.
Cheers mate, let's hope it works.
Cheers for watching 😃
I actually like the bowsprit. Two anchors would fit easily. Our rollers are close together so two is a problem.
Hiya Phil,
I always wanted a bow sprit but not so sure on this one...
We'll see when we get there.
Cheers for watching 😃
Great work enjoy your boat tour you both are such a lovely couple supportive and energetic..
One day the sun will rise on the east horizon and set in the west and you will sail under the galaxies of stars.
Hiya Mark,
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
Slowly slowly we'll get there.
Cheers for watching 😃
I've always thought of Stuart as British because of his accent and the fact that he grew up in the UK but i have to admit that I had a good chuckle to myself hearing the good old South African slang come out in this episode "50 Bucks" its a dead give away of the South African influence.
In another video he said "kapoet" and I thought that was an SA term, now I know why.
@@daleme8187 kapoet is well used in SA as a south African myself but he is a British dude no doubt
Kapoet actually german
Kaput is German...
It's more PC than the alternative.
🤬😆🤬
I didn't know there was anything uniquely south African, or any other nationality for that matter about either of those terms. I've heard and used both of them and I've never been to South Africa or Germany
I had the exact same windlass and it was a wonderful piece of gear, high quality and very reliable. All we did was keep a bundled rag to stuff the hole to the chain locker. Note those windlasses draw a lot of current and placing a large starting battery forward close to the windlass works really well.
Hiya,
We are also thinking to adding a battery up front.
The rag idea is a good one too.
Cheers for watching 😃
Love to know your thoughts on going electric yourself, similar to UMA, initially not cheap, but I think will save you money long term ??? Mahoosive battery bank where the engine used to be ??? Forklift batteries for extra power storage ??, or even build your own power bank ?? Will prowse on YT is your main man for anything solar or batteries, he doesn’t mess about !!, great vid and love your channel, thanks guys
Paul,
We've thought non-stop about electric and tbh we've not committed to anything yet.
Cheers for watching 😃
Blast with Almond or walnut shell and blast along hull not at it peel it off in layers .
More great advice. I wonder where you can source those??
Cheers 🍻
Wow, that's quite a project! I'm guessing you guys are strapped for money, but you've got each other. Make sure you show each other even more care and concern that you show the boat. : ) I suppose I would just try to inject epoxy where the ballast has separated. I think you can get by with sand for the sandblasting. Just have a very light hand with it. Lots of other materials can be used. Crushed glass... I've heard of using crushed walnut shells, but that was on small delicate parts. Best wishes.
Love your attitude.
Wise words.
Cheers for watching 😃
That bottom part of the woodwork that is discoloured by water, you could cut it out and use the discarded wood as a form to cut some coloured acrylplast, which then could be glasfibered/epoxied into place, or replace the whole board with an acrylplast board. It will never get miscoloured again, never need paint and would modernize the interior.
That's the basic idea but replace the wood with ply. It's just easier to source (we will look into the acrylplast)
Cheers for watching 😃
The boat needs total restoration. The hull must be checked init.
Total...
What does the hull need to be checked for?
Cheers for watching 😃
Don’t be shy keep us up to date 😃😄
Will do mate.
Slowly slowly.
Cheers for watching 😃
Awwww....no tour of the unsung hero, your shipping container😐. Enjoyed the vlog!
Hiya,
The container is maybe to chaotic.
We'll have a yard sale once back...
Cheers for watching 😃
21:37 For that one could try MC-2133 or MC-2300 by MC-Bauchemie. Or something similar.
Cheers for the advice.
We'll look into our options.
Thanks for watching ☺️
Hi, you say, that in your old yacht cabin wasent conected with galey... so... why you bought new vessel? you can used fiberglass and connected back with the front on the old vessel ( i think)....
That is going to be a very pleasant place to live when you get there. So much space and storage which makes all the difference in a live aboard The progress your making is perhaps considerably more than you realise whilst living there.
Incidentally, I have used a mildly foaming resin to void fill and rebond the layers in a caravan composite sandwich floor. It worked extremely well and has lasted over five years now with no signs of deterioration whatsoever. This might be a solution for the delamination in the keel. I will see if I can track down what it was and where I got it. The delamination problem was a common issue in the composite floors of early 1990s caravans if you want to google it.
Hiya Robin,
Late reply. Sorry
We'll look into that. Got a rough plan of attack.
But you know how that goes...
Cheers for watching 😃
A couple thoughts, we had a similar sized boat and our favorite space underway was our aft deck area, similar size to yours IF you get rid of that aweful deck box. Remember you need to keep the weight to a minimum at each end of the boat and a huge aft deck locker works completely against that.
Hiya,
That box...
We need it at the moment, but it's been in heavy debate as to keep it or not.
Cheers for watching 😃
Nice vid to show where you are up to. Keep cracking on. 😉
Away working but heading home soon...
Cheers for watching 😃
@@SailingSeabird Yep...here in Australia we are into autumn. Which means spring on your side of the world. Fortuneatly where I live in Toowoomba the only time we get snow is about once every 30 or 40 years (😁). If conditions are right. Which is enough snow for me. 😉
Less is Best.. Get rid of the oversized stern locker. Making good progress, well done.
Less is always best.
But that locker...
Maybe.
Cheers for watching 😃
Fantastic effort and graft!!
Cheers Rob,
Thanks for the support.
Yeah, that outboard will need work - but it should run with a little bit of tender (or not so tender) love and care :D
Yo!
Sorry for the late reply. Cheers for the little engine. We're looking forward to using it.
Missing home (Seabird)
Not long now!!!
Cheers mate 🍻
@@SailingSeabird Ahaha no worries, hope it'll do you proud :D When you guys coming back?
Maybe soda blasting baking soda might get expensive though
Thinking, should we just sand it. Old school...
love seeibg around the boat and working in progress. What maake and model of boat is Seabird please??
Sand blaster will be fine you just change the media maybe walnut shell will be less aggressive 👍
Cheers for the heads up. Walnut seems the go. Someone else said the same. We'll look into it.
Thanks mate ⛵️
I have also mounted an electrical double socket in my house which is very far from being level. (The drill went wild) I call it a Picasso.
Hehe,
There's always one...
SPAIN... trundling off to Spain are we after pointing out how much work remains on your lonely boat. Harrumph!
Miserable git
Hehe.
Well, what can you do.
Got to see your family.
Next time better planning.
Cheers for watching sorry for the late reply 🙃
🤙 Seabird ✊
🌬🌊⛵🏝
Thanks mate 😊
I have a Whitlock steering pedestal removed from a Vancouver 34, the whole system including the quadrant is complete, Missing only the wheel. It was removed to make the boat have tiller steering for the Golden Globe Race. This might be a solution to replace your hydraulic system?
Hiya Daniel,
Thanks for the offer. We love hydraulic steering. Steer without toe. Had it on our last boat.
It's crazy how similar this boat it, just that bit more space.
Cheers for watching 😃
I love watching you both, when do you think you might get around to starting to work on things? Painting the engine area, or building? or is that a matter of lack of funds?
Hiya,
We work over the winter...
Should be back in the spring. Crack on!
Cheers for watching 😃
Thanks
Thanks for watching 😎
Y'all have done a lot and the future of that once hopeless boat is looking good.
Thanks.
Sorry for the late response.
Hibernation mode.
We'll be back soon 😉
Just a suggestion.Have a watch of Sailing Uma for solar.
We're big fans of Uma.
Cheers 🍻
So when are you hoping to have it back in the water ....keep up the good work
Hiya Pete,
Maybe 2 more summers. But here's hoping...
Cheers for watching 😃
Congratulations on buying your boat. I have questions please answer.
1. What do you do at night when you are sleeping and boat is sailing ⛵️?
2. How do you secure your utensils in rough season.
3. What is the security when you are asleep. Robbers etc.
Thank you
At the moment the boat is on the hard, ask us the same question in a year's time.
There are softer power blasting media available, such as Plastic, ground up walnut husks, baking soda and glass beads, that will remove the bottom paint without tearing up the Fiberglas.
Hiya Mike,
I think this walnutcl shell is the one. Not sure if we will blast the hull. But the more input the better.
Thanks for watching 😄
Were the wood is stained from water damage. all you need to do is cut the damaged wood out and in fill with new marine ply. and fill the joints with apoxy. and to make you feel better about it coat the ply in apoxy thin out as you cover it. that`s the quickest way of dealing with the water damage. you can then stain it after its complete saves ripping it all out
Cheers for the advice.
Dreaming of the woodwork, that's a great job. Relaxed, clean, enjoyable.
Before then a lot of fibreglass work!
Cheers for watching 😃
Looks like you’re in a very good place with interior , there doesn’t seem to be much more screaming “strip me out” as you show us around the boat. When will you be back to working on the boat in the new year ? 😃🍻
Hiya Dave,
Back in a few weeks.
We can't wait to get cracking.
Cheers for watching and sorry for the late response.
Hull looks pretty good, makes no sense to do bottom paint until just before launch
That's it.
The very last job before she goes in. We'll prime it, to protect the fibreglass from uv.
Cheers for watching
The place where the stantions meet the deck in the middle of the boat, I have seen someone epoxy a plastic drainpipe through the glasfibre so that water could run out instead of collecting.
Nice idea 💡
Once the boat is at sea you'd think there would be less standing water...
Cheers for watching 😃
Good information, I have been watching your videos and was wondering about a few items/projects' goings on of the boats, past and present. With this video info coupled to your recent pod cast that I watched I now have a comfortable understanding of it all. Wich means I will be enjoying your video offerings even more in the future. Thank you and I wish you "All the Best". "Parker"
Cheers Parker.
We'll be back soon to crack on with this refit.
Thanks for watching 😉
Hi you two ..glad your getting some help with the wombling ...
If youve not got one nows a good time to figure out insulation and where to put a heater... see sailing Umas solid fuel stove though the Dutch do some nice little diesel stoves..
Remember insulation works both ways.
Hiya Clive,
Sorry for the late reply.
Looking at armaflex (I think that's the name)
And with the heating, thinking of a wood burner but Marina says let's go south!
(The burner would even be in the same place as Uma)
We'll be back soon to carry on.
Cheers for watching 😃
@@SailingSeabird
Look into diy hybrid solar... HPV
Panels to boost your PV solar panels output and life in hotter climbs...
@@SailingSeabird
Looks like Marks going to be looking for some sails and yard to work in on his Wharram Pahi. 🇬🇧🧙♂️
"Multitool, epoxy, fiberglass: Hope for the best" British engineering at its best. :D
It's a classic, should be taught in school.
Fingers crossed. She'll be right.
Cheers for watching 😃
Hey Stuart and Marina .. if you are in need for a Corian countertop for the dayhead .. please send me a message .. I have some leftovers.. so I will help you for free 🍀
Hiya Michiel,
Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully, we'll get to the heads this season.
Cheers for watching 😃
hey guys love your videos, how you make your tea?
With a kettle 😉
What model boat is this? I've looked all over your yt page and can't find it.
never mind, found it. Gulfstar 41.
Hiya
Gulfstar 41 from 1974
Cheers for watching 😃
Check out soda blasting.. it uses baking soda and they also use crushed walnut shells..
We'll be sure to look into that Ben, thanks mate.
@@SailingSeabird no problem. Hopefully you 2 are doing great.
I wouldn’t be to concerned about the voids between the hull and the lead ballast, the lead and fibreglass would never have been bonded together. I would make sure it’s nice and dry fill all the hoes that you made and maybe sand back where the holes are and put a couple layers of glass over that area just for peace of mind. Keep up the good work.👍👍
Cheers for the advice, Frank.
I think we have a plan much the same as yours.
Thanks for the encouragement 🙂
Iam confused is this a different boat ? Ugh what a bunch of work. Good thing your attitude is good!! Crack on and on and on lol
Hiya Charles,
You're right! A lot of work is needed.
Cheers for watching 😃
cant you find another boat like this one for @WildlingSailing to buy?
Hiya,
I've been sending Mark some links for boats.
The KP44 for $25k would be my choice.
Cheers for watching 😃
Hi. Have a look at the channel "Refit and sail", as to the floor and tanks issue you are planning to tackle. Good luck.
Thanks for the encouragement
Cheers for watching 😃
Check the Facebook group. I had the same problem withe the keel with my 41. The ballast probably is concrete and lead. There'll probably be some concrete rot aswel. Check if the bilgefloor underneath the engine is laminated. Mostly it is some thick paint that's cracked because of age and leaks water in to the keel. also check the rudder/skeg shoe. Because of its age it could be worn out. that hole on the anchor winch, check the balsa, protect the core. Just a few things :)
Cheers for the great advice!
We hope it can all be fixed.
Just time...
Thanks again 😉
Just rem to only used marine ply.dry ice blasting i have done but it does take time.
Thanks for the advice, Gary.
We'll look into that.
Cheers for watching 😃
Look into CORN BLASTING. We do it to log homes in the Pacific Northwest (USA) all the time.
=))
Hiya,
We'll look into corn blasting.
There are so many good tips.
Cheers for watching 😃