First Drive in the 4L80E Swapped 600HP El Camino!
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- I am thrilled with how this project is shaping up! It was truly a great day to see all of this work come together and get this car back on the road! Many more videos to come! Please Subscribe!
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I enjoyed the video and glad to see young people into the hobby that has been so rewarding to me for the last 50 years. Putting a 4l80 in my 68 Chevelle hopefully soon.
Sweet ride too. Love Elkys
She obviously started life as a base level El Camino. That looks a lot like mine. She's a real animal now.. Mine still has her original 350 in it And is a great everyday drive.
Congratulations on the new kid, man! Keep up the good work on the car.
Sounds super sick dude!
Great job...sick ride
Great job and best choice for transmission
Nice car, nice video, knowledgeable dude! Keep up the good work!
I have the same tci controller got to have an electric noise filter for the tach signal if you are not running a msd controller it has a clean tach signal coming from it to run accessories like that and on the 4l80e it has 2 speed sensors you need to use the sensor closest to the driveshaft that is one amazing sounding and looking project brother great job!
Keep up the vids man! looking to get a 65-69 Elco in the next year or so!
Sweet build 💪💪💪
Great videos man, your car is absolutely beautiful. I have a 72 Malibu and I’d like to do some of the same upgrades some day so I really enjoy seeing how you did everything. Congrats on the new baby also.
Mike Fries thank you! I really appreciate it.
Stumbled upon this video when searching for information on the 4l80, because I want to do a swap in my car as well - as part of modernizing it. It just so happens to be a 68 Elco 😁
Your videos are awesome man 👍🏽👍🏽
Nice work brother! Congrats on the new baby!
Wow Nothing sounds like a bad ass big block Chevy. Beautiful ride. One thing that needs is the SS dash. Monty Carlo and the SS Chevelle had the same dash. 👍
Love the lift I'm going to look now for me one
Miss my 70 Sprint with Corvette motor so bad right now. Great job. Nice H-Bar exhaust mod.
i have a 71 SP Sprint.
That’s the way projects go brother their money pits but they’re worth it. Your car looks super clean brother. Looks like you did a great job man.
Great vid😁
Great looking car really like your exhaust. I'm a carburetor fan too. I'm going to out some safety brackets on my El Caminos drive shaft just cause if it ever comes off I don't want to total the car or catapult it... lol
New sub, love your car, good job on the videos. I have a 67 Camaro with a 502 in it. Have had the car for 40 years. Was a race car but now back on the streets.
Super cool👍🏿
Thanks for sharing your video. I like it lm working on a 69 Chevelle with 468 and hyd roller cam. Hope to make some good power too! It’s frame off which I’ve boxed it and narrowed the frame and of course extra bracing! Love your Elcamino.
Ronald Lewis thank you! Good luck on finishing your project. I am actually planning to post another video of my car today or tomorrow. Still struggling with some issues with the transmission controller now. Hopefully I'll have it all dialed in just in time to park it for winter
Looking forward for more videos. Your work is very good. I am a professional service technician working on all types of Powerline Equipment all around southern states. It’s hard to get time to stay on top of my project but I will get it done ✅ soon!!!!See ya .
Salute!
I also have a 468 big block in my 72 C10 and videos to.
Awsum bro
Holy fuck that car sounded crazy love it !!!!
Bad ass el camino!!!!
Thank you!
I would suggest a AFR Gauge it will help dial in you carb !
Nice!!!!
Nice el co.
Good afternoon, Did you use the spacer between the flywheel and trouqe converter or did you just use the longer bolts
Really enjoying watching you do this car Taylor. I did a frame on restoration/mild hot rodding of 70 EC in the early 80's. Loved that car until some drunk towing a trailer sideswiped it. It was fixable but prior to the calamity it was totally strait, rust and bondo free. I just could've live with it anymore.
Some ideas I have for you:
You need to protect the rubber trans cooler lines from chafing against the radiator shroud and tank seems. The vibration will wear a hole in them. Clamp them down somehow and cut larger rubber hose (or some other armor) and put around them at key chafe points. You did a nice job routing the Trans cooler lines bit they need to be secured more. Even if they don't chafe the vibration could eventually make them leak at connectors. Lock'em down Bud.
B&M, Hurst and a few other companies make floor shifters you can use with the bench seat or buckets. If you get buckets skip the console. Mine had buckets but there was more than one time a bench seat would have been handy since the girls loved the car. It's a ticket to something other than traffic court if you get my meaning. ;-)
Love your project, it's a beauty. Be safe.
X-Man thank you!
Taylor it’s Dan Myers. How did I not know you had a TH-cam channel? Good video, subscribing.
Hey @Dan Myers! I need to start making videos again. I have so many irons in the fire that I never get around to filming anymore
13% advance timing gm love that timing set. Try it and see ull lik it. Plus gas mileage will be a lil better too.
Initial timing of 13 is bad advice. TOTAL timing of 34 to 38 at 2500 to 3000 RPM. I set my street/strip car ignition up at total of 36 degrees at 2500 rpm with an initial of 10 degrees. Never set a performance engine by initial timing. 13 degrees at 800 RPM is 15 degrees at 1200 RPM and could be 45 degrees at 3000 RPM. So initial should stay low for easier starting. So set your ignition up with 24 to 28 degrees in the distributor and 10 degrees initial gives you 34 to 38 degrees total. One of the first rules in performance engines. And then if you run a Turbo or NOS then all that changes. But never go by initial except on a completely stock vehicle. Then never more than 2 degrees above factory specs.
aweshomeness!
I did a 4.8ls swap built 4l60e with stall in my 83 el Camino we used stock crossmember but cut the plate off turned it upside down and re welded it back on just need to adjust my shift linkage now and wire my second fan in we used a truck motor and got the stock hood to shut no cowl
By any chance do you how to run the tci ez-tcu controller on a holley sniper efi with the holley hyper spark distributor im getting comm error
Nice Car dude. Very motivating. What is the height of the ceiling in your garage? What lift are you using?
Nice car!
Use an afr guage to tune the carb jet up or down according, sounds like you need 33-38 idle feed restrictors, its a big engine and it needs fuel off idle. Also when you turn it off and it diesels that means the throttle is open too much at idle, may be tour secondaries may need to be closed, thats how I closed mine on my holley vacuum secondaries.
Frank da Tank thank you for the advice! I need to get back to working on this car. It really needs a 2800+ stall converter. The idle has to stay high for the car to idle in gear, and then it diesels when shutting it off in park. It is far from finished haha!
you will notice "X" flows better than an "H" FOR A FUTURE MOD.
Like your channel videos. I'm super big into Chevy BBC/SBC builds. I also have an el camino that I plan on a 460 BBC with 4L80E. How did you get your 600HP build? Very interested in that info because I like to learn from other builds to grow my own knowledge.
THOSE HEADERS THROW OFF A LOT OF HEAT MY FRIEND AND YOU JUST HAVE RUBBER LINES, GET SOME GOOD HEAT WRAP AND BRAIDED LINES OR MAKE YOUR OWN METAL LINES, THATS DANGEROUS, THOSE LINES BURST VERY EASY ESPECIALLY WHEN GETTING BAKED WITH HEADER HEAT AND PRESSURE
468 CUBES WITH HUGE CAM AND VALVES NOT GOING TO BE FUEL EFFECIENT BUT LIKE YOU SAID IT MAKES YOU SMILE.
PUT THE AIR CLEANER ON, YOU COULD GET SOME CRAP IN THERE, GREAT PROJECT,, YOU'LL GET IT DIALED IN EVENTUALLY
Nice car bro. I always liked El Caminos since high school, almost bought a 69 way back in the eighties. I need to swap a 4L80E into my 1970 Chevelle SS 454. The turbo 400 and 4.10's is not a good match for the street. I really need that overdrive gear to make it more streetable.
Great video! I’m gonna use 4l80e in my 69 Chevelle will there be clearance issues or special fittings I may need. I’m Just about to put the body back on the chassis? Your car is looking so cool!!
I was doing some research and i read that the plug that connects to the transmission does leak transmission fluid in the connecter causing a weak connection and cause shifting problems. Just some info
That flex fan is going to eat a lot of horsepower. I think there was an Engine Master video where they dyno'd different types of fans. the solid mount flex fan was the worst.
Yeah I watched that episode as well. I'm going to upgrade the cooling system with a 4 core aluminum radiator and dual electric fans soon. Just needed to get the car back on the road for now.
How did u wire up your safety Neutral switch
Nice, do you have a link for those fittings? I need to get a 4L80E connected to an LT1 in a 67 Camaro. I don't know what I am in for, but I hope I don't have to cut anything. Thanks for the video. (and congrats on the baby)
Why you didn't have trans rebuilt before you installed it
If you used the stock 480 torque converter then it's dragging the RPM below where the cam will idle well. Power brakes also make the car lose vacuum to such a low point that the car will die.
Yeah I need to ditch the stock converter. I just threw it together with what I had to make sure the transmission was operable since it was a $100 junk yard unit. I'll likely go with a 10" billet 2800 stall
Which tci controller did you use
What you do for the driveshaft
How tall is your ceiling in your garage. How’s the lift work?
Wtf you have a lift in your home garage?! That is cool as hell.
Where did you get your car lift?
Sweet ride what kind of torque converter you have
What’s the length of the drive shaft
What's your cooling setup?
Can you give me the link to the transmission control? Thanks!
Questions about egr delete
What size cam boss "mild or big cam
Cool looking rims. Can I ask you what they are? Thanks!
Pretty decent video for a fellow DIY guy. Congrats on that.
James Curnutt thank you! The wheels are Foose Nitrous in 17x8 front and 18x10 rear
Nice build did the exhaust shop leave you with welds like that though.
Yeah those welds are bad
Welds trash af. This is what happens when you don’t inspect work and just pay and go, smh.
What a sweet ride,just curios were and what vehicle do you find a 468ci out of biggest block I've heard of was the 440 dodges or 454 out of Chevy trucks.would love to do this to an old mustang..snookie pa.
Allen Snook thank you! The 468 is a standard 454 with an overbore of .060. Same block and rotating assembly with the exception of larger pistons
@@TaylorSmithAutomotiveChannel ok I get it,thank you for explaining that,I'm a year n half from retirment from d.o.transportation and then I plan on a project car.remember my dad had green 67 mustang.and as a kid he took us kids on amish hilly backroads flooring it over humps.with loud cherry bomb mufflers it was better ride than any amusement park.even looked killer sitting still so I can appreciate ur ride as well.nothing compares to cool factor u cant get it in a jar.only comes from sweat and equity. Stay cool hope your ride stays strong,live on and rock them streets.snookie
Looks good, you really need to bend some hard lines for the cooler. A 2800 stall, precision industries converter (pink)will wake it up and put a big smile on your face. FWIW
You only showed the 1 cooler line banjo fitting. That transmission needs a longer rear cooler fitting to engage the center hub properly or you will burn out the rear planetaries and bushings.
Very nice , you'll have a lot of fun. One thing , never drive without a air cleaner , you have too much invested to have something go down the carburator and blow it up. Why take a chance , it only has to happen once. Wish you well.
Did you use the rpm control module or just leave it unhooked
david Daniels I had it unhooked for the rest of the video. I have since wired in an MSD box for the tach signal, but am still having some issues with the transmission signal
@@TaylorSmithAutomotiveChannel ive got the efi kit aswell as the ez tcu kit ive been fighting diagnosing an staying on the tech line for days
How’s that beauty run now??..
Larry
All you needed was a conversion yoke for a TH400. Dennys driveshaft sells them.. no need for the truck slip yoke.
ccvair that was an option but the spline engagement is not ideal. Since the driveshaft needed to be shortened anyways, this was the best option for me.
I hate to see the Carnage that's going to happen when that trans cooler comes loose. Get that damn thing on the other side of the radiator. Nice ride just needs some more tweaking and it would be killer.
Randy Fulton I am going to put a 4 core aluminum radiator and electric fans in the car soon. I'll change up the trans cooler at that time. Just wanted to get it back on the road at the time of the video.
Seems like it needs a looser converter by how hard its lugging down in drive.
Colin W. it definitely does need more converter. I am going to put a 2800 or 3000 stall in it this winter. I assembled the car with the stock converter from the 4L80E because it was in unknown condition. I got it from the junk yard.
Great car, but maybe it is time for electronic fuel injection. Sounds like the 950 carb is going to be a problem anyway.
What year and what vehicle is the 4l80 from?
Shawn Coldren the transmission is a 2001 with the revised cooling line locations. I believe it may have come out of a box truck. I checked the serial numbers on the torque converter and it came up for a box truck. The converter is totally wrong for my car so it’s coming apart again soon. I just wanted to make sure the trans was working before throwing a $1000 converter in it.
Is that the TCI EZ TUNE?
Hey how did you find the engine and transmission
If you can email me . My email maverick3825@gmail.com
What size converter are you using?
I actually just used the stock 12.75" converter that came in the transmission from the junk yard. It was a rebuilt converter with a 2,000 rpm stall speed. I am going to wait and see if this transmission holds up for a while until I spend the money on a 10" billet converter. Didn't want to throw a $1,000 converter in front of an unknown transmission and risk hurting it. It's not perfect for my application, but its good enough to get the car back on the road
@@TaylorSmithAutomotiveChannel gotcha bro! I'm using a th400 with a gear vendors overdrive.
@@musclebone7875 how much did that gear vendors overdrive cost ya? I need same for my TH400.
Why cant I find any 6L swaps in elcos
Regan Mckenzie the 4L80E worked great because of the available space. It only took a little bit of messaging to get it to clear the factory tunnel. A 6L80 is a massive transmission and would require a new tunnel
Have you wired tcc or manual mode or performance where you wire switch to ground ?
I have not done that yet. I will eventually organize a switch panel for lock up and performance switches. I am currently having an issue with the tach signal and I honestly haven't worked on the car in a few months
Banjo fittings part numbers please. Thanks for sharing I need these for my 69 Chevelle 4l80e too!! Car is cool!
@Ronald Lewis message me on TH-cam if possible, I have questions about your build! Thanks
Hey man how’s it going what question do you have for me?? I started on my 468 today like got the cam in / timing chain and main stud kit installed!
@@ronaldlewis6062 Do you have that 4l80 in? I have a TH400 in my 69 Chevelle but was curious how much of a pain it would be to install, or would it be the same as video above?
Billy Maze You will need to re fab the cross member. My 4l80e had the bolt in yoke so I ordered a 400 yoke for 1350 joint. Also I ordered a 9” Ford with 1350 joint therefore I will build a large drive shaft to Handel the power. I gotta 350 in it now for mock up while building my 468 . There are no issues for as fitting however you will need a TCI controller to make it shift . Don’t be discouraged it can be done ✅ research before you start. I will race mine and cruise the coast too !! Thanks
Also need to place your flywheel on top of your torque converter of course both of them out and see how to slot the bolt holes because they are not quite the same and will save you time upon installing or mating together! Hope this helps you!!
Trans cooler works better in front of the radiator.
Your Ford truck in front got newer as your video progressed lol
Gary Hayes haha we went from a 91 Bronco to a 95 7.3 Powerstroke to an 08 6.4 Powerstroke!
Glad to see Elon Musk has a gasoline hotrod. A 70 big block el camino no less!
How much did that car lift cost u?
I picked it up used for $1500. Barely fits in my garage but I made it work
4l80 is supposed to increase fuel milage.
#nut at 22:00
I have rodents, so I'm stuck with old school th350.
HEAT SHIELD PLEASE
I hope you lend that sick ride to your wife in payment for not divorcing you....ha ha ha...by the way you are a professional mechanic? you sound like it ...grate videos...
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For your hoses you should buy this to protect them from the heat of the headers on Amazon : Design Engineering 010233 Ultra Sheath MA Lightweight Extreme Heat Protection for Hoses, Fuel Lines & Electrical... also the pressure from the transmission is at 145 psi to 225 psi. I dont think your hoses will last with that much pressure. Every city has a shop that specializes in making hydraulic hoses. You should try them and they also sell the fittings too that will match up to the psi and temp of the trans fluid. Trans fluid also runs between 115 and 185 depending on weather and other factors. Those hoses won't cut it
www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-220784-b/overview/
This is the hose I used. It looks like regular rubber line, but it is actually reinforced high pressure -6AN line from Summit Racing. It just doesn't have the braided exterior lining. It is rated up to 302 degrees of temperature and 250 psi. It has been perfect so far.
is that rear cooler line fitting going into trans center support looks like the wrong fitting needs to go into center support to lube geartrain fitting looks to short
I don’t think that driveline will hold the power with that slip joint
Go electric fan. Should be good for about 35hp
Nice exhaust but the welding is pathetic
i would of choose a th400.
saber tooth critics no overdrive in a th400
@@TaylorSmithAutomotiveChannel but you can get a 3 speed overdrive kit. it connects to the back of the transmission :)
saber tooth critics that's true, but not for the $100 I got this trans for haha. It was the better option for me.
@@TaylorSmithAutomotiveChannel okay:)
A 4l80 is a turbo 400 the internals are interchangeable but it has overdrive and it's computer controlled.
Crummy welds ...!
you will be selling that car soon
Wow, I'd love to have your babies! ;)
Horrible welds