RAGE TRYPAN 100 gr Broadhead Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- This is a test of Rage Trypan 100 gr mechanical broadhead.
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the Trypan posted in parentheses as well.
Total Trypan Score: 67.60 pts = 6 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 17 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 10 (20 on 20 pt scale) & the max score of a Fixed is 8 (16 on 20 pt scale).
2. Cut Size (20%, 18.54 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (2"+.24" x 7 = 6.27 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (2"+..24"/2.5" x 7 = 6.27 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (2"/2 x 6 = 6 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 17.38 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 225 grams=9.75/10=8.78pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +100 grams=8/10=7.2 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (7/10=1.4 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 14.68 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (6.25" = 6.25 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(50 layers=6.43 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 2 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 after each shot & weighted to 12% of the score. (2/12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (NA)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (NA)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: Heads will be rewarded bonus points for special, intangible features such as: rotation, no O rings/clips for mechs, extra thickness, hole size, other unique designs, etc.
-1 both blades broken on Penetration Test 2
-1 blade broken on Opening Test
TOTAL Trypan SCORE: 67.60= 6 Golden Arrows
Price of Trypan: $16.67/head
Grading Scale:
90-100 10 Golden Arrows
85-90 9
80-85 8
70-80 7
60-70 6
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In the words of Gomer Pyle "surprise surprise surprise." Great test now we know for sure.
Exactly junk out of quiver
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Good job
Thank you
2019: The trypan was the first mechanical head that I ever tried. Put a huge slice in a 140" whitetail, the buck went 40yds. Worked amazing.
2020: 30yds shot on a 130" buck. only got 4" of penetration. Watched the buck on my trail cams for the next 3 weeks with a 2" slash in his rib cage.
2021: Shot a doe at 20 yds watched her run away with my arrow hanging out. No blood. Never recovered the deer. I then sobered up and went back to my Fixed blade Thunderheads. I'm done experimenting. Staying with what has worked for me for decades.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
The first mechanical field point.
Blades are for appearance only.
Serve no purpose in hunting.
Remove before shooting.
:) That's funny.
This is the best broadhead ever!
Atleast what marketing tells me. This broadhead shows you the power of having a huge budget in marketing can do.
Truth!!!!
Yep...marketing is a powerful tool...much more powerful than these heads.
This model is The hypodermic tray pan not to be confused with the regular trypan, the ones used in the video have been discontinued and no longer are beening made
Yes, I made that point in the video. But I have also tested other Rage models, including the Hypo NC +P that is coming out soon.
"Nope........." sums it up for me.
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Good to know!! Love seeing the diversity in durability among all broad heads!! Keep up the good work
Thank you
This is why I like fixed blades!
Well, yes...but there are also many mechs that will hold up better than many fixed blades...it's just that these mechs are particularly weak.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures if id try any mechanical they would be Sevr!
I have always thought the Rage heads are way overrated! Once again great test and thanks for the hard work.
Thanks brother.
Same. Bought a three pack for fun. $30. These blades are butter knives. Maybe RAGE was quality back in the day, but not these days. #SEVR
Yeah, I'm sure they can get the job done; I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But there are better choices.
Excellent Video and professional HONEST OPINION that I appreciate John. Never shot them.yself. I use SEVR broadheads and boy they hold up like no other!!!! Again thanks for sharing! God bless Mike
Thanks Michael.
It would be cool if you made a video giving us your top 10 or even 5 broadheads using your data and scores to choose for this upcoming season! It would be cool to see which have the highest scores. Thanks John
He has the score sheet and ranking in the descriptions I think
@@justinjones2882 yeah but hearing his experience would be cool too ya know. Idk, sounds like a video I’d watch
Yeah, but the challenge is that I keep testing another 2/week. So it's hard to keep updating the results. I do list all of the scores in the video descriptions of each video, so anyone can quickly see the results.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures for sure. Maybe when the year gets closer to an end we could do a best broadheads of 2022 or something!
still to the day one of the Best broadheads you have done is the QAD EXODUS...
Wow
I can't imagine a current rage being any better. Blades look the same.
I think their old rage two blades are actually better. The trypans are garbage
Yeah, I have a new test of one of their new models coming in a few weeks. I already finished the test.
Been shooting almost exclusively Rage for over 10 years. Trypans for the last few seasons. Have killed around a dozen critters with them from javelina to elk and never had any problems with them. They are devastating. The entrance wounds are insane and I’ve had full pass through son deer at very long ranges. The biggest reason I shoot them is they are accurate. They fly just like my field points, to the point where I don’t even mess with the practice heads anymore.
Thanks for sharing that. Why do you think Rage discontinued them?
Rage. 1 and done broadheads is what they should say in their commercials
Yep. And if they kill the animal, then I suppose that's okay...but many animals can be lost because the heads get "done" before the animal does.
Great video John. Love your broadhead tests. Not a rage fan but I have shot them and tested them against other heads, obviously not as comprehensively as you. I shot one through 3/8 plywood and was shocked that it penetrated, expanded fully and didn’t break. One of the blades had a bend but that’s it. Just another data point. Thanks for what you do and keep showing us what’s working best!
Thank you for the comment.
Btw, bought some sevr and night and day better broadhead. Feredyne hasn’t done us any favors with all the brands they’ve bought. Still like the muzzy trocar but they’ve essentially killed an iconic brand. Same with block targets. Used to be bulletproof now overhyped overpriced and not the same.
Killed an 8pt on public land 8-6-22 (opening day) in zone A South Florida with a Rage Trypan. I had hand sharpened the blades with my stay sharp guide to ridiculous sharpness.
27 yard broadside shot... Complete pass through. Buck went 15 yards. Giant holes on both sides of the deer. Arrow was stuck in the swamp muck. Broadhead had zero damage.
You got lucky
Every blind squirrel finds a nut lol!!! Glad ya got the deer but rage will fail just saying!!
Good to hear. Thank you for sharing that experience.
I killed my biggest buck with a rage sc. complete pass through ran about 60 yards.
I switched to these 4 years ago and have mixed feedback. A few impressive very clean kills including double sliced ribs and massive trails, but I have about 6 trypans with mangled blades after being shot once. Love the testing!
Thanks for sharing that.
Sevr broadheads for Me !
They are much more durable, that's for sure.
O my I have been Waiting for this video for so long, and the Results speak for themselves. Sorry but as I have experience myself these broad heads are nothing more than junk and so many people use them, Including myself at one time🤦♂️ This is why I think your channel is so underrated you should have way more subscribers. the work you do is incredible it really shows how the most important aspect a bow hunting which I feel is the broadhead really makes a huge difference in a person’s hunting success. Rage turned the the Rocky Mountain sniper into junk . Just show’s the power of advertising rage in the Cage yeah right never gonna make it through the cage without breaking.
Last year I cut bone off around the shoulder on a deer at 30 yards with my trypan, idk where he got these heads but they were obviously Defective no way possible that good blades would break shooting cardboard, I have personally tested this heads shooting metal sheets something was obviously wrong with those heads unless they were a discontinued model
Last year I cut bone off around the shoulder on a deer at 30 yards with my trypan, idk where he got these heads but they were obviously Defective no way possible that good blades would break shooting cardboard, I have personally tested this heads shooting metal sheets something was obviously wrong with those heads unless they were a discontinued model
@@blacksrfm don’t care about your experience. I have had plenty of my own.
Thank you. I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
They are comple garbage. I can't believe how many people use them. I shot 2 deer with them. Never again, I recovered both, both with perfect lung shots. But the tracking was a long process.
I have been waiting for this test for sooo long!!!
I am from South Africa and have used this broadhead for close to 5 years. I have taken numerous species from eland to bushpig without experiencing this type of failure. I do however agree that the blades have a tendency to bend at the wingtips.
I will still advocate this broadhead for medium game, especially for impala and warthogs which are notorius stringjumpers and where you need a wide cut on marginal shots...
I have since switched to the Sevr 2.0.
Thanx a lot John... keep up the good work👍😁
Thank you. I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
Lost more deer with these than any others. The couple i did recover were one and done. Blades broken or bent. Had two go in about 3 inches then fall out and no deployment. Neither deer recovered obviously. I will never use these again. Ive gone to iron will single bevel. Many many uses and always always always penetrate.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I use them because they shoot straight. I tried 7+ heads they all flew like crap. I shoot a hoyt pro defiant 32in at 70#. I shoot CE maxima reds 350s 30in. I can shoot a 2in group at 40 yards. Every other head i tested im lucky to hold a 7in group at 40yrds. And its no where near where my target tip hit. 12in shift at 40yrds.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Proof of the power of marketing.
Indeed.
Vector md3 🤗👍🏻👍🏻🦌🦌🦌🦌 ordered them too
Nice!
Wow………I agree completely John. NOPE!
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I’m still using hypodermics and I love ‘em, they are a one and done for sure. Once I run out of them I will be using Sevr
Yeah, they can certainly work. But I'd much rather use a head that can hold its full shape and edge throughout the entire animal. It's not so much about wanting to re use it, but just wanting it to stay intact. If it kills the animal but is all messed up, that's okay. But what if it doesn't kill the animal because it's all messed up?
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I never touched the Trypans. The hypodermics bend on a kill but I have not had one break and I had one of the blades sheer through a leg bone then hit heart so I think the quality went down with the later trypans
Know lots of guys lost deer using those tests showed a shining light on a terrible blade design 👍
Thank you
Seams pretty accurate to all the results I've had and friends have had from rage. "Buy Rage and you'll Rage you didn't buy something else"
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What a piece of junk! I dislike all rage broadheads, and yes i have shot animals with them. I really dont understand why more people dont give you a thumbs up, 1000 views and only 129 likes? Your work is fantastic, thorough, fair and honest, keep it up, can't wait for new videos!
Thank you. I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
Careful John. Gonna make the Rage fanboys cry
Man, I just try to be as objective as I can. I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
WOW!just wow
Right?
I shot a doe with one about 4-5 years ago. Last mechanical I ever shot. Doe looked like I shot it with a rifle cause it didn’t open. Was very glad it was a good shot
Thanks for sharing that.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures That was the last straw of what drove me to only shooting cut on contact fixed blade broadheads
I use the rage chiseled tips two times and had broken blade in a doe and a hog good test
Thanks for sharing that experience.
What are your highest scoring or favorite mechanical broadheads? Thanks.
Definitely the Sevr. Just search Sevr Lusk on TH-cam and you'll see all of my tests and hunts with them. Other great rear deploying mechs are Afflictor, Grim Reaper, and the new Maxone's on Amazon.
Lol that's great thanks for this one
Thank you
No surprises there had one loose a blade hitting a block target knew there was no way in hell they’d survive your tests love your testing and will be shooting Exodous this year because of your over the top testing and the heads survival
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Love your broadhead videos! I picked up Sevrs for this upcoming season thanks to your reviews. Question - with all broadheads you shoot, do you sharpen them before hunting or do you hunt with them right out of the box?
I think he mainly sharpens them but if they come razor sharp he will use them out the box
It depends on the broadhead, but with most, I don't bother doing it.
The Lusk test does not lie.
True that.
John, I always look forward to seeing your next videos! Have you ever considered using ultra high speed videos to show broadheads in flight as well as every imaginable data points as they impact various mediums?
Thank you. I'm doing the best I can with the equipment I can afford right now. Each vid takes about 7 hours to do with the tests I'm already doing...including the editing and responding to questions like this :) So I'm not eager to add many more tests to my regimen :)
Do you think that maybe you got a bad batch, cause in one test it broke hitting a cardboard box that seems really weak as in maybe it was a bad batch… I’ve seen test on these heads where they shot a metal 55 gallon drum lid and it didnt break but yours broke shooting g cardboard?
I could have. But this has been pretty much my experience with all of the models I've tested over the years. The ferrules hold up fine...but the blades just break and bend terribly.
I would love to see the Bishop Heads put back into the test. The 500 and 600 Grainers, the 315, and a more common size of the 100 or 125.
Yeah, that would be good.
I think this was one of your most important videos just to show people how truly weak this broadhead is. Quite startling really. Good job!! I can hear the Ranch Fairy now ,"I told you those flipper flappers were bad".🤣
Those seemed really weak as in maybe they were bad. I’ve never seen any broadhead break shooting a cardboard box unless there was a quality issue with the heads. I shot a doe with a trypan last year and cut a quarter size piece of bone off around the shoulder. This leads me to believe he got bad heads where we got this metal blades like this isn’t suppose to break that easy
Those seemed really weak as in maybe they were bad. I’ve never seen any broadhead break shooting a cardboard box unless there was a quality issue with the heads. I shot a doe with a trypan last year and cut a quarter size piece of bone off around the shoulder. This leads me to believe he got bad heads where we got this metal blades like this isn’t suppose to break that easy
Those flipper flappers are garbage , and they have been wounding deer for years!
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I kill a lot of game with rages but I don't care for the NC ones I shoot the old style extreme with collars and they really produce better than most
Thanks for sharing that experience. These had the collars.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures surprising to me I have never broke a blade off bent a lot of em and have killed truck loads of deer and even a Elk with the hypodermics old style extremes will wipe deer out big time probably fail yourtest
These are actually my favorite bh for deer. Ive had one leave a massive 5" hole and go through both shoulder blades. The blade was honestly reusable if I sharpened or replaced the blades. Definitely my favorite rage to date
Good to hear. Why do you think they've been discontinued?
Did you watch the video? Also a 5" hole had to be a deflection or steep quarter shot and it ran down the side before entering.
Well I've seen what they do on whitetails. They punch a nasty hole,and every deer I've shot went down within 30 yards.
I used the very similar hypodermic on a 77 in pronghorn one year and both blades broke I got lucky that the animal only ran 40 yards or so But I was saying nope nope nope as well
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Find it funny that some people hate using stuff “made in china “ even though these are made in china. Out of all the 2 blade mechanical broadheads I’m shootings the maxone all steel and sevr ! I have even used the nap slingblades with great results.
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Now, let's do a broadhead battle..😂 Rage Trypan NC against Sevr 2.0... It'll be fun..😂 😂
The Serv will destroy the Rage.
I have that test on my channel: in the all steel 150 gr models.
Last year out of my crossbow I had horrible deflection on an angled shot on a doe with the hypodermic no collar I am afraid to even try to use them again
Thanks for sharing that experience.
I shot the hypodermic and had similar experiences so I stopped. I think a lot of it is the extreme blade angles. Slamming into stuff rather than slicing through. Thats hard on the blades.
Thanks for the comment. The blade angle is less than many other mechs that have much more durable blades. I just can't understand why they don't improve their blades.
Are you sure you didn't get the Chinese knock offs ? I've seen the original test videos where they are shot through a steel drum..
And with those original test videos they probably didn't show the 5 heads that broke before the 1 that made it through unharmed.
100% sure. Brand new official pack. And fairly consistent with all my other tests of many of their models.
Not a fan of them. But great review! 👍 love the videos
Thank you
Pretty much replicates my experience with Rage broadheads. Shot 2 deer, found 2 deer and broke 4 blades. The first deer was a 180lb field dressed buck, lost the unsupported part of one blade in a rib on entry and found the full 2nd blade resting just inside the heart. The head with the remaining half of the 1st blade continued penetrating to the off shoulder. My second kill was a 90ish lb doe (field dressed) lost both blades in the ribs on the entry side leaving only the ferrule to penetrate into the upper heart/aorta coming to rest after maybe 7" of penetration.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
I tried these once I saw one vid of them doing good and though sure then I tried them and now ……. I want my money back
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I like your test methods, I feel like sharpness isn’t weighted enough though… in all my years bowhunting I feel sharpness is the #1 factor in a clean kill and quick recovery… assuming the head flies well. My experience with mechanicals has been they leave a great blood trail but the animal seems to always run farther than expected, maybe the slapping or sensation of it causes the animal to freak out and bolt… have had much shorter recoveries with smaller fixed blade heads that were just simply crazy sharp… much less deflection issues also. Do you feel there’s any merit to the theory that a extremely sharp fixed blade head may cause less ‘freak out’ factor and therefore less distance tracking? That’s been my personal experience, curious to hear your thoughts on this.
Thanks for sharing that. I think giving sharpness and edge retention 20% is weighted accurately. If a head is sharp but the blade breaks, then what good is that? Or if its sharp but at such an angle that it doesn't penetrate well, or fly well, what good is that? Or if it's super sharp but only has a tiny cut, it will not be as lethal as one that's super sharp and has a wider cut.
I think 20% for flight, 20% for sharpness/edge retention, 20% for cut size, 20% for durability and 20% for penetration is fair.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thanks for replying, and I see your point 100%. I was eating my words yesterday, as I shot an 8 point and he managed to jump the string just enough to turn a lung shot into a liver shot (thankfully I recorded the hunt). I was using the wasp sharpshooter, and thankfully we recovered the deer-we found that the head just barely missed the lungs. I couldn’t help but think how much trouble I could have saved with another inch of cutting diameter! The shot was my fault, but things do happen out there and that’s the benefit of a big mechanical. I guess at the end of the day, every design is a compromise of sorts. Thanks for taking the time to reply and making these great test videos.
Rage fans are now going to say but I don't plan on hunting cardboard. That is a terrible result and it might be a factor in a deer I lost a few years back before switching to montec g5s.
Yeah, I'm sure they have and will kill a lot of animals; I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. At the same time, there's no denying that they are one of the weaker blade mechs on the market. And a lot of animals have also been lost due to this. My point is that there are other, much more durable mechs on the market.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures The only one I know I shot and lost due to the broadhead was a downward quartering away shot and the arrow looked like it deflected down between the ribs and hide. Very little blood and never found the deer.
I really want to see you test the Grizzlystik Maasai 200
I'd be happy to, if someone would send me a pack.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Ya know, I bet that could be arranged!
I have used them a good bit and have had blades break but never like that amd so easily i wonder if you got a horrible batch or somethin lol idk
I may have. But they were real heads in real packaging and not knock offs.
While my son shot a doe just forward of the hind leg (mixed up his front and rear, 7 year olds right?) And the deer went down within sight... a Rage will never again be on any of my arrows. Iron Will or Magnus for me and fixed blades all the way, crossbow for my kids, Hoyt for me. When Rage works, they work well. But the durability just isn't there, even a rib can knock a blade off. To each his own.
Yep.I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
"Nope" 💀😂😂😂. Those are complete trash smh. My wife messaged me earlier and said I received my 150gr Sevr broadheads in the mail. Can't wait to see how they fly at 385 fps 😁😁😁
:) Good luck. I have a test of the Sevr Robusto coming out on Sep 6.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures can't wait to see it. Only complaint I have is they wouldn't shave the hair on my arm. Idk if I got a bad batch of blades or what because most people say they are pretty sharp out of the box. I just got the Stay Sharp guide yesterday so I'll turn them into super sharp razors this weekend though. Maybe I'm just too picky about sharpness
And that’s why you shoot a sevr…………
Yeah, there are a number of choices that are much more durable--even some Amazon knock offs.
The deepower mechanical is way better then the rage
Yep.
That’s why so many deer are lost every year with the rage broadheads junk
Truth.
Love the rage broadheads. Never had one break or not open on me. Always had great performances for me and what I hunt with them. I have used one head without sharpening through 2 deers and 4 pigs.
Why are you lying?
A rage Broadhead through 2 deer and 4 hogs... not only without breaking, but not having to be sharpened??... Arrrgh C'mon 😏
Good to hear. I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
This should put to rest the argument of the chinese knock offs being inferior - the legit ones cant get any worse.
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
Lol.. nope!
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The 3 blade chisel tip SC has proven very durable for me, but that trypan was horrible!
All Rage are junk!! Yes they kill deer but so will a field point!!! Almost all heads are better then Rage.
@@indianapublicland7429 that’s a pretty broad statement from someone who most likely hasn’t tested them all.
@@butleroutdoors2188 I have shot one and killed an 8 point but a blade did break.
@@indianapublicland7429 so shooting one broadhead and having a blade break, makes the entire brand junk? I’ve seen plenty of reputable fixed and expandable broadheads break blades.
@@butleroutdoors2188 Of course I'm not only going by that 1 bad experience I had. I've had several friends have issues and now no one shoots them. Did you watch Lusks video or alot of other peoples comments they suck. Real true bowhunters that tune their bows shoot fixed bottom line. I've learned my lesson!! Good luck this year !!! That is a great idea however sharpening those junk heads it defiantly makes a difference.
Weak head. Good review. You are the best .
Thank you Michael. I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
Never bought a Rage product. Glad I didn’t.
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
Great test I figured they would fail easily. I'm amazed at how many people use these with no clue. You can't say it but I will. These heads are JUNK guys stop using these and wounding deer. They are the worst head on quartering shots. Poor deployment and major deflection. So many better choices out there.
Thanks for the comment. I know they can get the job done-and have many times. But I prefer a head that can hold up to the most extreme conditions.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures 100% agree
Ohh your going to get contacted by rage 😂
Great. Maybe I can help them improve their product.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures lol to late
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I could never understand how the rage community give the guys that shoot the knock off rages a hard time like the actual rages is better , you should tast the knock off against the rage
exactly the results i expected. i have shot 1 rage at a deer. i did recover him but one of the blades broke right where those did. hit nothing but skin, ribs, and double lungs. decided to never shoot another rage.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Honestly i think if you had used your other bow they would have broken even worse with the extra velocity
Well, both of my bows have the exact same speed.
Great video! More proof that Rage are a trash product, with a phenomenal marketing department to convince the masses.
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
You can still get the traditional Trypan crossbow model and it looks like the hypodermic trypan is taking its place. Don’t look like these heads like your testing regimen. Lol
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Seems like you got some knock off heads. Especially if they were purchased recently.
Nope. Brand new, unopened pack. There are still tons of them available. Even the knock offs I've tested have done much better than most of the true Rages I've tested.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures That's interesting. I shot them last year a fair amount and never had any issues.
Yeah, they’re junk. I lost two deer using them years ago. I know a ton of guys that still use them. They claim they’ve never had issues and would change if they lost a deer due to them. If I was going to use a mechanical I’d just go with a Sevr.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Yep, trash. I had one break on a rib bone. It’s a joke
Thanks for sharing that.
Feradyne still makes the trypan but it’s a no collar system now. Good job at being respectful but I won’t. Rage is garbage. No structural integrity at all. Great video
Thank you
Pure crap... cant wait for u to test the new clovis broadheads... they seem to incorporate the newest technology in a broadhead I've seen in a long time
Man they are pricey though, $85 a piece.
@@_DeFiNiTeLy_Not_BrAd_ that's for a pack of 3
They're shipping me some soon.
@@benjyhowell1291 Your right, its even in bold red letters, i need to read better lol. Im interested to see how they do, looks promising.
That's why rage is horrible John. I'm a sevre guy.
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures yeah I agree. I wouldn't want to even chance shooting one through an animal. Bad joojoo.
It astounds me how many people blindly choose a broadhead without any consideration to the ethical concerns. There are hundreds of people who spout off the nonsense marketing slogans of these companies like its the stadium chant of favorite football team. It is shameful that a company as large as Feradyne continually produce subpar and flawed products.
Yep. I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures The only things I can think of that would cause that is they're cutting those notches on the backside of the blades after they're hardened causing stress fractures in the steel or they're hardening those blades to RC62+ and they're just brittle.
That's amazingly bad.
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I don't get it either. Possibly a bad batch of them? I've never seen anything perform as bad as these did. I see people recommend them as an expandable for elk on AT. I wouldn't shoot that thing at a groundhog lol
Hunk of crap. No wonder it's discontinued.
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
It's those stupid cut outs they put on the back of the blade. The trypan blade design sucks! I shot and sharpened a single set of my old original hypodermic blades the times before one finally bent. I killed three deer with one set. My brother bought the trypan and every time he shot a deer they were smoked.
Thanks for sharing that.
Nope
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Rage! Turning gut shots into great shots. Just junk!!!!
:) I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
The old cardboard durability test Lol. Yikes
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@@LuskArcheryAdventures tough to defend when it can’t even go through cardboard
oof.
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Always have been junk....fan boys will defend them though.......
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
Lost the buck of my life on one of those. They suck.
That's unfortunate. Sorry about that. I suppose that can happen with any head, but if the broadhead is to blame, then it's an extra bummer.
Really poor showing, thanks again for the non partial review
Thank you Andrew.
Junk,glad I bought iron will 100 wide
Good choice.
I'm just going to say it , stop buying rage broadheads! They have wounded more deer over the years then we will ever know. Why we all get stuck on things like a brand is beyond me. Test your gear !
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I would say they are cutting corners. It would interest me to know how old the owner is or if they were bought up, by a bigger company. I know they kill animals. Lots of times they don't pass through. There is such an argument going on anymore over heavy arrows and expandable heads not being good. I know plenty of cheap sid heads that don't work well either. Really the point is this , ethically I just wouldn't shoot them. Time and time again I hear of failure with these broadheads. It's time for them to come out with a better option, that works. That works consistent. I'll also say this even if it was a one and done head ,and did it's job. The blades should hold on , not snap, the " industry " went to light heads and speed. To sell junk. Why? For the love of money ,not the sport. I've shot a lot of different heads over time and I'll sing the praises of what works. Frankly though I'm sick of seeing junk , offered up in the broadhead market, only to hear a "pro" talk them up and down because he was paid. Good review sorry for blabbing
Ha ha what a joke !
Disappointing.
I can see if cardboard breaks the blades ---- nope! I’m just gonna say it- junk!
I was surprised by that as well.
I wish they'd make mechanicals illegal
Make mechanicals illegal why cause you don’t like them, sound like a terrible reason to make it illegal
Well, honestly, I don't think it's fair to call the failure of this head a failure of all mechanicals. I've tested a number of mechs that have been MUCH more durable than many fixed blade heads.
rubbish should not be used on animals or even be on the market
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Junk!!!!
I'm sure they can kill a lot of animals. I sure wouldn't want to get shot with one. But their blades really are some of the weakest I've ever seen. I just can't understand why--even super cheap knock offs have much more durable blades.