I agree. I won't shoot a broadhead that fails his tests. I'm not hunting concrete blocks, but if it can survive that test, it will survive anything in the woods.
@progradepainting3755 Wouldn't you agree if it survived the brick it will survive anything in the woods? I am an engineer, and 300% beyond expected conditions is my baseline. If it loses blades in mdf and sheet metal, it is total garbage. I prefer to buy once and resharpen until I lose the thing entirely.
@@tray22 nope, don’t care. I’m not concerned in the least if the broadhead doesn’t survive the rock I hit on the other side of the animal, because I’m a hunter, and I’m 300% concerned with what it does when I do hit the animal, and if I can hit the animal accurately with said broad. Definitely not concerned with aerospace engineering for hunting purposes. We’ve been killing animals with stone points for thousands of years.
@@progradepainting3755 Stone points will outperform many of the fancy heads on the market. Including the grim reapers. KISS doesn't work well for the broadhead market because that would mean the head does its job and is reused without buying a new one every shot.
Smoked a many of whitetails with a GR Pro Mag 1 3/8. Never one problem. So glad the company is doing their own thing and doing it right and not selling out to some group.
Probably the best whitetail head made. The mini mag sucks the life out of deer. The internal trauma of the mini mag and carnifour is unbelievable. Another awesome test John.
Another great test. I have always wondered how much shrapnel is in your backyard from exploded broadheads LOL. Keep up the good work ! I watch every video you upload. Cheers !
6:28 A little wobbly on the spin test there... Is this from the brodhead or the arrow? If the same arrows are being used repeatedly for this testing I have to wonder if the inserts don't eventually get messed up.
This test made me move to the Sevr Hybrid. Even though I've had great success with the previous version of the minimag, I almost think that when they thinned out the ferrule to use the stronger cup on the 100 grain version they weakened the ferrule. Only way I would use this head now is the 125 grain version. I am not using a head if the ferrule breaks on the concrete. Thanks for the testing John.
As far as over the top deployment goes they do OK. However, penetration is a little short and sometimes like most of these type, the blades may not deploy on initial penetration so the entrance hole may be less than full diameter
Can you test the new G5 T2 broadhead I’m interested in its design and trying it out myself but I always watch your broadhead test videos first before purchasing
I’d sure like to. If someone donates it, I’ll test it. But at present I have vid tests done and scheduled to drop thru May. Then I have 32 more heads, waiting to be tested.
I know the tekan was I believe one of their first mechanicals many years ago. I remember seeing David blanton using them in some old videos. They may be an updated version of that head possibly.
Thank you. I actually do that :) It’s been a part of the Cut Size score sheet for the last 3 years-It’s listed as “entrance cut”. I often show the hole in the rubber foam mat. Front deploying mechs almost always have the same entrance hole as they do in the closed position. If a rear deploying mech does not open properly in the rubber foam mat, I do a secondary opening test on leather, stretched across a cardboard box.
I have harvested more animals with the Grim Reaper heads than any other broadhead! They are awesome and have never failed me. Can’t say the same for the Rage, Rockets, Wasps, Hammerheads, Muzzy 4 blades…Love the videos and the thoroughness with the testing. Keep the videos coming!
Have you thought about doing a deflection test? Like shooting at and angle board to see if goes through at that angle or deflects? Would be interesting to see with a 4 blade compared to a 3 blade or even two..?
Thank you for the suggestion. I did that for a few years. I just stopped at this year for a couple reasons. First, if I made the angle 45°, then 99% of the heads passed through it just fine. I made it 30°, then I could see a variation of results, even with the same broadhead. The rotation of the broadhead effects which blade is going to hit the medium, and at what angle. If a blade hit perpendicularly, then it would often deflect more than if it did not hit perpendicularly. So I decided the whole test was useless, at least in my mind. I don’t think anyone should shoot an animal at crazy narrow degrees like that.
Think i prefer the carnifour because they say the smaller blades deploy when the longer blades hit the hyde so i would think you would get a better entry wound.
Just an idea, maybe for next year's tests. Use the scale on the sharpness tests to show how many grams of force it takes to open the mechanical broadheads to their full open position. I haven't seen anywhere on the broadhead packaging how many foot pounds or grams of force it takes out of the arrow system to fully deploy them.
I personally don't like these type of BH, I prefer fixed or cut on contact, only because I have a 26:in draw length, I just don't trust the penetration.. But I can see how they could be deadly in the right set-up
I'll speak to my experience. I have a 26.5" draw, 70# bow, 440 grain arrow. I killed a mule deer with a grim reaper fatal steel at 64 yards. STEEP quartering away, it entered just Infront of the right rear quarter and exited behind the shoulder in the pocket on the other side. The arrow went coast to coast and ROCKED that deer. He went about 100 yards, downhill, bedded up and died.
I'm a sevr man. But i actuly like the style of this head. But it's hard to give up the sevr. Because they work so well. Thanks for another great video sir.
my buddy used to use those GR heads, they did work, but they are one and done. all the little funky figity parts inside the head get destroyed. if they just used a simple replaceable band it would be a 100 times better head.
I would. It’s important to remember with a spinner that the camera is in very closely and then I also edit the video to magnify the screen even more. So you can notice even the slightest Spine issues. Where with the naked eye, I don’t always even see those. I can’t remember what the case was with this one, but I know that has happened quite a bit before.
Grim Reaper while they are becoming good classics they need to get back to the drawing board if they want to keep market share with other mechanicals. The bar is very high right now if not at the ceiling for what a mech head is capable of. Thanks John
I feel that four blades are just too much for penetration. I use 3 blades. Open a nicer hole over a slit of two blade. No more than 1 3/4” diameter. 1 3/8 is great. 125 gr. Does anyone else prefer 3 blade over 4? Doesn’t matter?
Each are better in different situations. A 3 blade cuts bone in 3 planes. But a 4 blade only cuts bone in 2 planes. In softer tissue a 3 blade can penetrate better, especially if it has a smaller cut size. But in bone, the 4 blade has an advantage of cutting thru it in only two planes and of course it often cuts more total tissue.
Great review as usual. I killed my first deer with grim reaper. They perfom well. I just don't love the small entrance holes that over the top style mechanicals provide. If you get a pass thru they're great. If not be prepared for a sparse blood trail.
The second I saw this head I thought Uh oh, John is going to expose this one on the metal and brick test.....no surprise here...Congratulations on that last hunt beautiful deer and great to see the Sever 1.75 perform well.....I will have those in my quiver during my fall elk hunt in Arizona and the Exodus as my go to fixed blade. Thank you again for what you do John. You have put an end to many archery shop "Opinions" on what heads work and what does not.
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I agree. I won't shoot a broadhead that fails his tests. I'm not hunting concrete blocks, but if it can survive that test, it will survive anything in the woods.
@@tray22surviving the brick test is the least important out of all his tests. So it really doesn’t matter.
@progradepainting3755 Wouldn't you agree if it survived the brick it will survive anything in the woods? I am an engineer, and 300% beyond expected conditions is my baseline. If it loses blades in mdf and sheet metal, it is total garbage. I prefer to buy once and resharpen until I lose the thing entirely.
@@tray22 nope, don’t care. I’m not concerned in the least if the broadhead doesn’t survive the rock I hit on the other side of the animal, because I’m a hunter, and I’m 300% concerned with what it does when I do hit the animal, and if I can hit the animal accurately with said broad. Definitely not concerned with aerospace engineering for hunting purposes. We’ve been killing animals with stone points for thousands of years.
@@progradepainting3755 Stone points will outperform many of the fancy heads on the market. Including the grim reapers. KISS doesn't work well for the broadhead market because that would mean the head does its job and is reused without buying a new one every shot.
Smoked a many of whitetails with a GR Pro Mag 1 3/8. Never one problem. So glad the company is doing their own thing and doing it right and not selling out to some group.
Yep!
My go to channel when looking into a new broadhead for this season
Much appreciated.
Probably the best whitetail head made. The mini mag sucks the life out of deer. The internal trauma of the mini mag and carnifour is unbelievable. Another awesome test John.
Thanks for sharing that.
Grim Reaper Broadheads. My favorite BH.
Good to hear
Another great test. I have always wondered how much shrapnel is in your backyard from exploded broadheads LOL. Keep up the good work ! I watch every video you upload. Cheers !
:)
Awesome content @Lusk Archery Adventures and John!
Thank you
6:28 A little wobbly on the spin test there... Is this from the brodhead or the arrow? If the same arrows are being used repeatedly for this testing I have to wonder if the inserts don't eventually get messed up.
Not the arrow. I test them all the time if a head wobbles.
Gotta love Grim Reapers! Another great video John thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching!
This test made me move to the Sevr Hybrid. Even though I've had great success with the previous version of the minimag, I almost think that when they thinned out the ferrule to use the stronger cup on the 100 grain version they weakened the ferrule. Only way I would use this head now is the 125 grain version. I am not using a head if the ferrule breaks on the concrete. Thanks for the testing John.
Thanks for sharing that perspective. Much appreciated.
We’d like you to test the G5 T2 please
I'd like that as well. Last I looked, I can't even find a place that has them in stock.
As far as over the top deployment goes they do OK. However, penetration is a little short and sometimes like most of these type, the blades may not deploy on initial penetration so the entrance hole may be less than full diameter
Yep
Can you test the new G5 T2 broadhead I’m interested in its design and trying it out myself but I always watch your broadhead test videos first before purchasing
I’d sure like to. If someone donates it, I’ll test it. But at present I have vid tests done and scheduled to drop thru May. Then I have 32 more heads, waiting to be tested.
I know the tekan was I believe one of their first mechanicals many years ago. I remember seeing David blanton using them in some old videos. They may be an updated version of that head possibly.
Another great test John. It would be awesome if you added an "entrance hole" test with expendable heads. God bless!
Thank you. I actually do that :) It’s been a part of the Cut Size score sheet
for the last 3 years-It’s listed as “entrance cut”. I often show the hole in the rubber foam mat. Front deploying mechs almost always have the same entrance hole as they do in the closed position. If a rear deploying mech does not open properly in the rubber foam mat, I do a secondary opening test on leather, stretched across a cardboard box.
I have harvested more animals with the Grim Reaper heads than any other broadhead! They are awesome and have never failed me. Can’t say the same for the Rage, Rockets, Wasps, Hammerheads, Muzzy 4 blades…Love the videos and the thoroughness with the testing. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks for sharing that.
I’ve harvested every whitetail I’ve hit with wasp jackhammers, rocket mini blasters , rocket sidewinders , original rages , and rage hypodermics
Have you thought about doing a deflection test? Like shooting at and angle board to see if goes through at that angle or deflects? Would be interesting to see with a 4 blade compared to a 3 blade or even two..?
Thank you for the suggestion. I did that for a few years. I just stopped at this year for a couple reasons. First, if I made the angle 45°, then 99% of the heads passed through it just fine. I made it 30°, then I could see a variation of results, even with the same broadhead. The rotation of the broadhead effects which blade is going to hit the medium, and at what angle. If a blade hit perpendicularly, then it would often deflect more than if it did not hit perpendicularly. So I decided the whole test was useless, at least in my mind. I don’t think anyone should shoot an animal at crazy narrow degrees like that.
Penetration was not very good. John do the manufactures share their specs regarding types of metals used? Thanks for your continued testing
Many do; some do not. Grim Reaper does.
Think i prefer the carnifour because they say the smaller blades deploy when the longer blades hit the hyde so i would think you would get a better entry wound.
Thanks for sharing that.
Just an idea, maybe for next year's tests. Use the scale on the sharpness tests to show how many grams of force it takes to open the mechanical broadheads to their full open position. I haven't seen anywhere on the broadhead packaging how many foot pounds or grams of force it takes out of the arrow system to fully deploy them.
Thanks Mitchel.
I personally don't like these type of BH, I prefer fixed or cut on contact, only because I have a 26:in draw length, I just don't trust the penetration..
But I can see how they could be deadly in the right set-up
I get it. Thanks for the comment.
I'll speak to my experience. I have a 26.5" draw, 70# bow, 440 grain arrow.
I killed a mule deer with a grim reaper fatal steel at 64 yards. STEEP quartering away, it entered just Infront of the right rear quarter and exited behind the shoulder in the pocket on the other side. The arrow went coast to coast and ROCKED that deer. He went about 100 yards, downhill, bedded up and died.
I'm a sevr man. But i actuly like the style of this head. But it's hard to give up the sevr. Because they work so well. Thanks for another great video sir.
Thanks Jason.
my buddy used to use those GR heads, they did work, but they are one and done. all the little funky figity parts inside the head get destroyed. if they just used a simple replaceable band it would be a 100 times better head.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
They have replacement blade kits that have the blades and all the components. I have heads I’ve used several times just swap out components.
It does look slightly bent?
I was going to make the same comment.
@@ryanmarino4230 it did pretty well though! lol
It did wobble slightly, out of the package.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures probably just 1 out of thousands 🤙🏼 love the videos Mr. lusk!
@UCm5rgwXpPfjkLoyuUJZMt4A 2 out of 4 of mine wobbled right out of the pack
Love the fixed blade Hades
That test is coming up later on
@@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 blade not 4
They look like they spin terribly on the spinner....Are these something you would still hunt with?
I would. It’s important to remember with a spinner that the camera is in very closely and then I also edit the video to magnify the screen even more. So you can notice even the slightest Spine issues. Where with the naked eye, I don’t always even see those. I can’t remember what the case was with this one, but I know that has happened quite a bit before.
I tried these before and got horrendous penetration. Sevr's are still the only mechanical I fully trust.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
How can I send you a pack of broadheads?
Thanks. My address is 2502, Sun Grove Road, Melissa TX 75454, United States. Pls just make sure I’ve not tested them recently.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures you haven't ever tested them. They are the Rage Chisel tip - 3 blade
Grim Reaper while they are becoming good classics they need to get back to the drawing board if they want to keep market share with other mechanicals. The bar is very high right now if not at the ceiling for what a mech head is capable of. Thanks John
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I feel that four blades are just too much for penetration. I use 3 blades. Open a nicer hole over a slit of two blade. No more than 1 3/4” diameter. 1 3/8 is great. 125 gr. Does anyone else prefer 3 blade over 4? Doesn’t matter?
Each are better in different situations. A 3 blade cuts bone in 3 planes. But a 4 blade only cuts bone in 2 planes. In softer tissue a 3 blade can penetrate better, especially if it has a smaller cut size. But in bone, the 4 blade has an advantage of cutting thru it in only two planes and of course it often cuts more total tissue.
Great review as usual.
I killed my first deer with grim reaper. They perfom well. I just don't love the small entrance holes that over the top style mechanicals provide. If you get a pass thru they're great. If not be prepared for a sparse blood trail.
Thanks for the comment.
I smoked 2 boars few days ago with the mini mags ….ive had many pass throughs on hogs using these….
Nice!
Another great video. I can't wait to see the black flag archery hemorrhage broadhead review if you ever get some.
Thanks.
For the algorithm
Thank you
Smoked a huge pig with one. It bled like mad
Nice
Broadhead was wobbling , junk
Very slightly. Pls remember that is zoomed in and blow up. I couldn’t detect that when I first spun it. I only saw it when I was editing the footage.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures could be why it wasn’t flying with field point
Naaaa a I'm good lol
:)
Junk
Well, a lot of people love them and say they perform very well on animals.
The second I saw this head I thought Uh oh, John is going to expose this one on the metal and brick test.....no surprise here...Congratulations on that last hunt beautiful deer and great to see the Sever 1.75 perform well.....I will have those in my quiver during my fall elk hunt in Arizona and the Exodus as my go to fixed blade. Thank you again for what you do John. You have put an end to many archery shop "Opinions" on what heads work and what does not.
Thank you