The BMW i5 eDrive40 bests the Mercedes EQE in every way but one.
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- MotoMan drives the new G60 generation of @BMW 5 series . . . First stop being the full #EV @BMWUSA i5 eDrive40. After presenting what makes this 335 HP RWD #EV derivation of the all new generation of BMW 5 series different, he learns from behind the wheel that while it is good, it is not the magic trick that is the BMW i4 . . .
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Nicest looking EV sedan on the market. It’s beautiful. I test drove an i5 M60 and it drove great on freeways and on backroads with a lot of curves. I have owned my car almost 2 months and I have not been as much in love with a car for 40 years.
Great styling, modern, elegant and sporty.
Great review.
Beautiful car moto man!
I would usually prefer a sunroof but in this instance I would spend the extra $900 for the fixed glass because it’s much bigger view or more light. As for the fresh air, crack the windows.
This. People rarely actually open sunroofs. Majority just want extra light and airiness. OEMs realized this, hence why glass roofs are starting to replace sunroofs on many luxury cars.
Plus less chance of leaking
Production of these videos is great and Doug could learn something from you. Beautiful car, unmistakably BMW. That back seat seemed tight!
My pleasure!
My 6’2” son has plenty of room in the backseat sitting behind my 6’2” husband in the front.
what Doug doesn't do is more important like talk down to viewers with all the that's just my opinion and Im just one guy .... which is code for I'm smarter than all of you. the arrogance of this guy is off the charts.
6:16 min - good point Motoman. 👍
Learned that one the hard way:)
Keep us posted on that NY meet and greet if you do it.
Will do . . .
When I first saw it I thought it looked like a big Corolla, and was not joking. But I now like precisely because of the thin C pillar. I just saw the outgoing 5 on the road today and it looked a bit gym-daddy to me. This new one looks more svelte, though it is bigger. I've yet to see it in the flesh though.
As a happy owner of a I5 M60. I agree and thank BMW not rushing into the EV market. This i feel was done right always more to improve. Bmw knows how to built cars and not like others that built and in months interior and parts falling apart.
Appreciate the real world feedback!
Absolutely love the EVs. I'm opting for an i5 M60 and selling my M550i to get an X5MC.
I had no idea they made their own batteries and components, but I think that's cool. They control all aapects. I just researched it and it's quite interesting.
I love all the new BMW refreshes. What can I say, I'm a Bimmer Boy. 🙃
Christopher Walken's car is a good EV, but looks more like a crossover to me. 🙃
I'd get the sunroof that opens.👍
Please post of a review 2024 540 with the 6 cylinder. Thanks!
In time . . .
Since this is based on the ICE 5 series is that the reason for the weight penalty? Also would BMW be able to make a future 5 series based on the EV platform the iX is built on?
The video provides a clear overview of the topic.
6:27 Just a piece of constructive criticism: When you're going on these rants, try to address the audience and engage more with the camera. Otherwise, it kind of looks like you're another crazy person on the streets of California talking to himself 😂 . Great job as always and keep up the good work!
It's hard for anyone not gen z to stare into the camera with their soul.
@@triedproven9908 🤣
In your vide i5 looking good 👍🎉 Keep up with good work! 🍻
I have always been a BMW guy - owned all of the latest 5 series and others from BMW - but - the latest BMW´s lets say the last 5 years? are all not on my short list which makes me really sad. BMW design is....always controversial first to stand out - most of those design age very well and others start to copy. This one looks better then last new BMW´s. Great review as always! Impressive knowledge, context, history combined.
Couldn't tell by your user name:)
@@MotoManTV ha yes I am very good with my disguise ;)
I would buy the all glass roof.
Utube is a btich. Nailed it.
Completely agree on the last comments. About the car, finally we see an ev that looks like a car people may like and got traditional setup when it comes to design. It makes the EQE look like a bar of soap.... in fact a bar of soap makes an EQE look like a pretty used bar of soap. Love almost everything BMW is making for the last 5 years or so. Prices are up but design and finish is really up too.
I am very interested in seeing the real world difference in range and efficiency between the e40 and m60 model. Having the fastest car is not as important to me as the EV range, as well as having all tech options available.
Competing with the bottom of the barrel Lucid Air which has a huge frunk, foot garage for the back seat and 398 mi range?
If you would like a car that falls apart every week.
Just rode in this car today and you feel the weight but it’s pretty fast it puts you in your seat but has a lot of grip and the car is a computer 💻 on wheels
I’m not an EV guy so I wouldn’t buy any of these. However, I have to say that if I had to buy a BMW, I would go I4 over the I5. The I4 is both better looking and seems like it drives better than this. The range and price point of this model also didn’t entice me to ditch my ICE for this EV. Great episode and content as always.
Kinda said it in the episode, but have to agree.
Nice, but not enough range, power and the appearance is bland IMO. I'll stick with my M550i until EVs get better. Oh, and bravo on the Micro$oft comment...they've pioneered the idea of having the public beta test their software while paying for it.
Comes from years working in tech . . .
This has got to be the most painful episode I’ve ever watched because I allowed every commercial to play through without hitting skip. With that, let me say that a sunroof that opens over the driver seat versus having a vision roof on an IONIQ 5, that we prefer the panoramic for the following reasons. My passengers enjoy the open feel of the cabin and we don’t miss the fresh air because there are four other windows that have always let more air in, regardless if there’s was a fifth window up top. I wholeheartedly agree about the M5 Competition tinkering and I’m sure they do too. Great review and a thought I just had: I bet Tesla is selling less carbon credits than ever before. No wonder they are advertising a whole lot on this platform for the first time ever.🤔 18:49
YT is crazy with the volume of commercials.
Thank you for the continued support, Gary!
@@MotoManTV I wish you the best. Love your unique content and who couldn't support a gentleman that enjoys QSuites as much as I do.
Honestly curious: is the thumbnail mirrored for photographic purposes? 😊 The white label on the windshield and steering wheel are on the right.
Keen eye . . . yes, it was flipped horizontally for framing purposes and to fit in the graphic assets.
No thanks, for $77,000 a Lucid Air Pure is a better deal. However, a plugin BMW 5-Series with perhaps 50 miles of range (and a lower price point) would be intriguing. 😮
I still don't understand, why anybody would pay extra to get 22inch tires. And wheels. To reduce the Ev range, which is probaly suspect. But a nice looking sedan, with those hideous laptop screens on the dash. And I like the front end look best. Free sunroof for me. And the paint looked blue to me, but I liked it on the video at least. Door panels are nice.
At least it won't be an oil sieve like previous 5 series.
apparently people are 300 mi on range on the edrive 40-have had mine a week and I'll see if it's accurate but loving the drive and the fact that it doesn't look like an egg
Please keep me updated about your real life range and efficiency (mi/100 kWh, or kWh/100 mi). I’m really interested in the e40 vs m60
I love the car but what I don’t like is the range and the charging station not working and the long lines to charge and the cold weather I don’t get the range and if I drive hard range goes down and if I use the heat range goes down not good
Thank you for your review! I have a 2024 i5 M60, and I am going to share my experiences with you.
There are several features and equipment that we do not get in the U.S. We tried to work with BMW US/NA and they were terrible to work with. Very disappointed.
Examples:
1) We do not get M seat belts. This is a piece of standard equipment for all i5 M60s everywhere else but in the U.S. We tried to add it and even pay for it and they said no.
2) We do not get the Digital Rear 4-Zone Climate Control. Again, everyone else gets it, but us in the U.S. We tried to get it and even pay for it. First, they said yes as a stand-alone option for $650 (crazy) and then they changed their mind and said no.
3) We do not get the Integral Active Steering. Again, standard on all M60s, but in the U.S. First, they said yes as a stand-alone option for $1,150 (crazy) and then they changed their mind and said no.
4) We cannot get comfort or multi-contour seats. They call them Luxury Seating Package. So, in the U.S., we get manual headrests, manual leg extenders, and no other seat options.
5) The panoramic glass roof is a joke. It is a plain glass with no Sky Lounge LED lights. We can’t open it at all. I am glad to see 2024 Mercedes-Benz C, E, and S Classes have them and are fully operational.
6) The lower door panels and window switches are cheap plastic. Kia has better-quality buttons.
7) No door sills. Even the Honda Accord has illuminated door sills.
8) No front seat massaging.
9) No soft-close doors.
Keep in mind that some of the options mentioned above are available on the 530i, 530i xDrive, 540i xDrive, and 550e xDrive in other countries. More and more, BMW US/NA is cheapening their product. Worse, here in the U.S. we are treated worse than in other countries when it comes to standard features, options, and packages while they keep raising their prices.
After a while looking at the interior, you feel something is missing. There is no door or cover to cover the cup holders. The car looks cheap, unfinished, and not so luxurious.
I am also not fond of multiple-color seats. I have seen BMW do a better job with other models. I am not sure what happened with the 5 Series. I miss Tartufo, Coffee, or just simple black. What is up with grey and copper? It doesn’t look good at all. It appears that we are looking at some cheap car.
As for the range. It is awful. If we have to watch how we drive, then that’s not an “M”60 car. And it takes a very long time to fully charge the vehicle even with the Level II charger.
I am trying to get rid of mine. Not what I expected.
Love to see your reviews!
I purposely ordered copper and gray. It looks fantastic together. I live in a constantly rainy area. I love the skylounge roof. It lets in light and I don’t want it dark with fake stars. My range is good with the 20” wheel. Getting 3.6mi/kWh in the winter. It should be over 4 by summer.
@@DrWildebeest I guess you don’t know much about cars, or you are not a BMW enthusiast. It is about the brand’s representation in customer service, reliability, and quality. With today’s open-source information and social media platforms, information is exchanged immediately and when you do the math, you realize the U.S. market is getting robbed.
@@user-gy7cy2it4p I have been driving cars since 1973 and have always been an enthusiast. My previous vehicle was a Jaguar and most parts were nicer than the BMW for instance having carbon fiber instead of piano black. The Meridian sound system was better than the Bowers & Wilkins in the i5. But, complaining about M stitching on the seatbelts is ridiculous. I ordered an i5 M60, but as soon as one came in, I was offered an extended test drive because you aren’t forced to buy what you order. They wanted to make sure I still wanted the car. I love how it drove and handled plus the quietness of the vehicle made it seem more upscale than my Jaguar. If you hated the car so much, you should not have bought it.
@@DrWildebeest You are comparing a Jaguar with a BMW? That explains a lot.
@@user-gy7cy2it4p , at least I know what I like. Buying a car and having a temper tantrum because a car has features that you cannot have seems extremely juvenile. Apparently, you liked it enough to buy it, but as soon as people got something you didn’t, you complain. Reminds me of Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka.
Van Hooydonk had one too many acid trips
I needed a sunroof in all my cars
Me too.
&3:15 🤣🤣🤣
if digital gages existed in the 1960s....that is this car. maybe the 3 year refresh will get rid of that cheezy dash. PLEASE!
Great looking car on outside but white leather, unless this is owned by 65 and up crowd and only to church and funerals it is not staying clean! Nice gray leather or saddle would look way better! But value here is issue with almost 5 seconds and near 80,000 bucks, I will pass, nice try but need more power and range for the money!! Great show as always!!!
I would buy a Lucid instead… this is a want to be EV but does not do what EV need to do is be efficient.
Did you drive one already? What would it cost in your area of the world?
If Lucid lasts another year as a company, it'll be a surprise.
@@weirdshibainuoooo they aren’t going anywhere - plenty of funding!
@@Lucid205 Look at the numbers, including the balance sheet. The only reason they're around is because of Saudi funding, who will soon get tired of pouring money into a loser
Old M5 Cs does 0-100 km/h in 2.9s
I ordered a i5 40e. Why? Not the biggest fan of the EQE, I did want an i4, but a well equipped i4 costs me €250 a month more (financial renting on my business). Didn’t go for the panoramic roof, but I would like it. Why not? I pick a rather basic 40e M pack pro since it had a 10k discount and I didn’t want to go overboard on the price.
For me it is not a sports car. It is a comfortable cruiser with adequate performance. This has to replace a Volvo XC60 T6 recharge hybrid. (In my country hybrids are no longer fiscally interesting, neither are combustion engines).
The older generation looks better
German Camry
Subbed after calling the algorithm a bitch
Slow for sure, they started with the Mini-e in 08, active-e in 2010 using the 1 series then the production i3 and i8 in 2013-14
Too late for the M5 I fear, Motoman.
Ugh.
I just can't get over how fugly is the new 5er, it looka like it got with every ugly stick out there. I've looked past some of BMW's design atrocities over the past 25 years as a self-admitted BMW fanboy, but this? This, I can't do.
I've seen a few of them roaming around town and it is just as ugly in person as it is in the photos.
Sunroof over a fixed glass roof all day every day, and twice on Sunday.
I have bad news regarding the upcoming M5. I won't spoil the news, but, M, you better be sitting down before you read the spec sheet.
Excellent work, like always, M.
Does this mean you FINALLY admit you were wrong about the E65???????
@@MotoManTV Never! ;)
The ultimate sleeping machine
KIA sells EVs for upto USD77K. Just saying. This or that? I am not in the market for either.
BMW sells real cars for more than that.
@@donwilber1628 right.
A topic we are going to be covering in more detail in a coming 'Living With' episode . . .
styling is a miss and for that price +5k you can get a Lucid Air Pure 0-60 in 4.5 or Model S Standard 0-60 in 3.1. When BMW is the slow and ugly option not a great sign.
No way you can confuse the i5 for 3 series. Even of the C pillar is overweight. The it is as big as the past gen 7 series. Please, do not over-pepper your vids, we like them anyway
“BMW late to EV party” … forgets the i3 totally
The design looks cheap. The thin C-pillar, head/tailight treatment, and the overall design looks like it’s gonna get old soon. The previous gen had this presence and emotion that was stately. There was a sense of “oh crap lemme move over so this BMW can get thru” whereas the new one doesn’t have that. Imo the previous gen will never get old(design wise)
Credit to BMW design team for thinking outside the box HOWEVER they missed the mark. This 5-series is absolutely hideous...
That’s said about every single BMW 😂
I'm a huge bmw fan and new car owner but the electrics are terrible.
video is a bit washed out. not sure i've seen that from you before.
Appreciate the feedback.
Is Chris Bangle back at BMW? The design, NO THANK YOU
the Motoman George narrative (that he erroneously keeps repeating): "BMW's late to the EV party..." BMW's advanced all Carbon Fiber M.Y. 2013 i3 and M.Y. 2014 i8 (so now 10 years old): What am i joke to you...?
Riiiiight. The i3 was a toy car, and nobody could afford an i8 ($135,925 starting price in 2014 dollars)...if you could even get one, so there was certainly a heavy dealer mark up. Oh, and it was a hybrid, not an EV.
Those aren't mass produced vehicles
@@donwilber1628 re: "The i3 was a toy car". Horses for Courses "Wilbur" now smarten up. the i3 was an EV manufactured and sold in 'Murica that you can still see on the road, and on occasion parked up at your local charger.
re: "$135,925 starting price in 2014 dollars". yup, actually LESS THAN what the $150 Grand that the Model S and Model X were at that time, and not far off from any current Mercedes EV, Porsche EV, or Lucid EV.
re: "Oh, and it was a hybrid, not an EV." yup, so exactly what Toyota Corp (that you and every other dummy said was wrong for not going full EV) is now selling BY THE TRUCK LOAD.
@@RayanMADAO re: "Those aren't mass produced vehicles" wrong answer kid, ref from the Wiki machine: "It ranked third amongst electric cars sold worldwide from 2014 to 2016. Its global sales totaled 250,000 units by the end of 2022. Germany was its biggest market with over 47,500 units delivered through December 2021, followed by the U.S. with over 45,000..."
The entire antigovernmental/pro global warming stance gets old. We have plenty of channels for that already.
Hi Greg! Always appreciate your thoughtful comments - even when we disagree. However, in this case, absolutely don't want to drive past a large point you are alluding to here: EV mandates, how they came about and media support. I have been very clear over the years that no one is going to argue about clean air, clean water and trash not piling up in growing cities. However, what many regulators around the world have done is lump everything into the orthodoxy of 'global warming', 'climate change' or as of late, the 'climate emergency'. By changing the tone of the conversation they have been able to push what used to be very fringe ideas as now a one size fits all solution. Say anything to the contrary, you are seen as defaming their religion . . . which in some ways it has become. Instead, what is needed is to deconstruct the problem you are trying to solve and reason up real solutions from there. Yes, we can agree or disagree as what the individual solutions are however the big issue that I experience every day are the other folks I see on these media drives as well as those claiming to be 'journalists' reporting on the beat of automotive industry. VERY few question the EV mandates, their viability, their timelines and if they have any relation to the problems they are trying to solve. In fact, I too, am guilty of not being more vocal about them sooner and posing the questions I do now - which led to the ridiculousness we are facing today. Yes, I live in a place that is probably the most egregious of the 'one size fits all' mindset and can see what happens when you don't even pose the question 'why' or task lawmakers to define the problem and how are their actions a real solution? That is my long winded way of saying 95+% of the folks I see covering this beat are pro EV mandates/timelines and don't acknowledge the current, near term or long term damage they cause.
We for sure are not on the same page.
So many people do not take climate change seriously and some of your content seems to encourage that. Of course it is not free to society to minimize the effects of all the CO2 and other greenhouse gases that we are emitting. If you want to have videos about climate change and the affects of it that is fine also and would be enjoy them also. Auto enthusiasts seem to be more indifferent than most to climate change already. Too slam the mandates without discussing the costs and benefits and only saying they have costs does a disservice to society and your followers. I assume the people that enjoy your content are here for car reviews. Opinions really do not matter when it comes to climate change or any science. I have not seen air and clean water discussed with climate change myself but I can see where people that care about the future of human kind would be more likely to do that. I do not think it behooves you to make the comment on it during reviews. A dedicated video about the mandates would be interesting but of course require a lot of research or a guest that is knowledgeable about the cost benefit analysis. I am not that person for sure and do not know if the mandates are justified or if they are too lax which may be the case in the US since they do not exist here. IMO it is likely too lax in the US. The laws here are like give it a good approach angle and departure angle with a higher ride height and call it a truck and the rules suddenly are lax. It is like the oil companies and the SUV manufacturers lobbyists had a hand in it.
Best Regards,
Greg
Tell us about government EV mandates Moto Man, but also acknowledge record volume of domestic crude oil extraction under current administration…
BMW is gone completely the wrong way with their exterior design in the last five years. These cars make the bangle but seven series actually look good.
I’ve owned four 5 series starting from 02 e39 up to g38 and I wouldn’t even consider this car. So much unnecessary tech . Way too expensive for what it isn’t .
Unnecessary tech is what people said about the introduction of ABS. What you are experiencing is age. Technology is moving faster than you can handle so your instinct is to kick back. My dad was the same when HDMI replaced SCART.
Owned an e34 and e39 and this has zero appeal.. None.
BMW styling has lost its way. Audi is now a better looking car. This 5 series doesn’t look bad and certainly looks better than the Mercedes…but that isn’t saying much. I would spend my $ on the Lucid before buying this BMW.
Agreed. I’d also much rather have a new Audi or Lucid than a new 5 or E
BMW look like Hyundai's
Younger people would love merc n bmw refreshed stylings.
I can't unsee the panel gaps on the Lucid. It's a big turn off for me.
@@stonkytongi like bmw styling. Audi is too boring for me.
😂I’m a conservative and my husband is a democrat and I have an EV and he has an ICE BMW 5 series! How’s that for a mix?? lol……..Maybe this will be our next 5 series?? 😂😂😂
This 5 series look really bad I’m shocked this got approved to build…
It looks like a cheap Nissan from the outside. BMW designs are getting worse with every generation.
A load of crap, second rate EV. BMW seriously needs to put as much effort into the EV drivetrain as they do in build quality and design. Stop designing an EV to be second best to an ice care.
Poon machine!