Side note, Ethel is a character bc initially preachers daughter started as a film concept and I believe script she created. Also, preachers daughter was not only redone several times, but was done over 4+ years. Also, Ethel was a deacons daughter, but she says she had an amazing family life growing up and even after transitioning. Highly recommend her EPs, inbred is my favorite released work from her. I also recommend check out some of the demos for preachers daughter. Especially hard times and Gibson girl. Hard times demo was actually done by vyva melinkolya, but Hayden changed it days before sending in the album for release. She has said she regrets this a lot.
Fun fact: An Ethel Cain missing poster was released by Hayden a long time ago, aside with PD. It said that Ethel Cain was last seen being abducted into a truck near Texas. That's why the energy between Thoroughfare and Gibson Girl shifts so much. Thoroughfare is a delusion of Ethel, romantizicing her abduction by Isaiah. And how she develops love for the man who eventually kills and eats her. “I never blamed you for loving me the way that you did" - Strangers.
Whoa never thought she was kidnapped! We thought she was hitchhiking and he was willing to take her anywhere she wanted to go. the marketing of the album is definitely unique and haven’t seen anything like it. Is there a written screen play or script of this album in the archives somewhere? -Rico
@@RicoandPrimo There is a google doc somewhere in r/EthelCain with a compilation of every but of info there is about Ethel Cain. Il try to get it here. Just for your more info. PD reflects o Ethel downspiral into death. The most important parts of her character and the men in her life. Her "true love" is Willoughby Tucker, sang to in A House in Nebraska. Also, if im not wrong, Logan Tucker, Willoughby's brother, is the guy that Ethel sings to in Western Nights. And finally there is Isaiah, the killer.
@@RicoandPrimothe album was originally written in a more cinematic/visual way, and was reworked over 4 years before being released. Hayden is actually planning on releasing a book with the story of the Ethel Cain universe, also preacher’s daughter is planned to be part of an album trilogy exploring the lives of the women in the preacher’s family (pretty sure they’re supposed to be about Ethel’s mom and grandma), and both the albums and book will delve more into the daughters of Cain cult topic that is teased in one of the songs
Clarification: Ptolemaea isn't when Ethel gets killed and eaten. In Ptolemaea, she "faces the dark side" when under the influence of drugs. August Underground is when Ethel gets locked in an attic and dies there rotting. Televangelism is her spirit ascending, sun bleached flies is her looking back on her life, and strangers is when she gets eaten.
In ptolomea Ethel is killed. That’s the moment when the act of it happens, but she dies in august underground. The part of ptolomea where she keeps on repeating “stop” and the last one is a scream is when her boyfriend injured her, and while all of it was happening she was high.
@@q.q4027yeah no ethel cleared this already she dies in august underground as it’s still a drowsy track like ptolomaea. she dies in august underground in the attic that’s why you hear what we can assume is a gunshot and everything goes quiet. ptolemaea is her begging for mercy to isaiah and her “punishment” as the song stands for the punishment for traitors and the 9th circle of hell.
@@pweasedonteatme I just rlly keep wondering why if she doesn’t d1es in ptolomaea Ethel decided to include her death rattle in the end of the song? Like in the acapella version you can clearly hear her being murdered, it just doesn’t makes sense to me u know?
@@alemanrodriguezsofia5109 that just her screaming and begging for mercy to isaiah. once again the track/vibe continues to august underground where she is murdered and then you hear a gunshot (what i assume it is remeber tho we are being told the story through ethel which is drugged so she’s not a credible narrator ) at the end and then transition to televangelism. my theory is however that she isn’t in heaven but rather at peace that she’s no longer being tortured that’s why televangelism is so carefree. i think to write such a thoughtful story and just say she died and went to heaven doesn’t really seem like an ethel move to me
@@pweasedonteatme yes I do strongly believe in ur theory, I mean, having a complicated relationship with religion, church and belief and then suddenly becoming a believer is just not the point she wanted to make, I think it is her realizing and seeing her life not as a tragedy but her letting herself being forgiven and forgiving everyone around her (including the "God" that was never there for her).
stoppp i love ashley. she feels the music so hard. not only just sonically but lyrically at the same time. her reactions to every song even if shes already heard all of it. it also shows how great of an artist hayden is to create a story that keeps listeners feeling everytime they listen, no matter if its their first or millionth listen
My take on the lyrics in Strangers has been that she isn't so much addressing her killer when she says "I just wanted to be yours, can I be yours", but addressing the amalgam of all of the men in her life. There's a thread throughout her arc of wanting to find a pure and good love and every man lets her down in that regard. Whether it be her father's abuse, Willoughby's abandonment, or the violence inflicted on her by Logan and ultimately Isaiah, she was always searching for that acceptance, and I find it all the more heartbreaking that even in death she can't help but question whether it was her fault for not being "good". Loved the reaction vid, Ashley's presence and reactions were such a mood lol. 🖤🖤🖤
I can relate so much with Ashley, i have been trying to show ethel cain to my friends giving them context of what the album is about, and the way she sings the songs ITS MEEEEE lol love her and cool video guys
ptolemaea isn’t when she’s killed and eaten. it’s when isaiah gets violent with her just like her past relationships and she’s facing the “dark side” under the influence of all the drugs he’s been forcing her to take. in the instrumentals, the first one is isaiah killing her and the second one is her ascending to the afterlife. strangers is about him keeping her in a freezer after her death and eating her
The Sun bleach flies are a metaphor for the women stuck in the cycles of abuse the church perpetuates. Ethel's father did not love her mother, she was another victim of his abuse. Ethel's has referred to her as one of the flies waiting for the day they can escape. She has said her next album is intended to make Ethel's mother the new focus for this exact reason. It's also the reason why the family tree comes into play, the tree has victims of abuse throughout it.
We aren’t gramma police. You gave an awesome breakdown of the last tracks of this album and tied it all together very well. Can’t wait for another Ethel Cain album 💜 -Rico
So with House in Nebraska, as someone who grew up in a rural area in Alabama (where the character of Ethel is from, shes specifically from shady grove), there's a good amount of abandoned houses. it's not usually entire neighborhoods, but the further you get from suburban sprawl and the cities you see one or two in the areas between the road/highway and the forest,a nd they're usually barely being held together and are COVERED in kudzu. so much so that in the summer, you can only tell there's a house under it due to the squarish blob in the middle of the kudzu. i knew multiple people that would find a way in and use the houses as spots to smoke or hang out, and i assumed that's what was goin on here. that Ethel and Willoughby found of of these houses off the highway and use it as their spot. specifically, i see it as a "as long as we are here, we can pretend we live somewhere different, like Nebraska" and play pretend some kind of domestic life away from all the hurt in that town.
I live in WA state and in eastern WA, there’s kind of a similar issue. Tbh I didn’t know kudzu was all over the country. I legit thought it was a PNW issue lol
in ptolemaea, Ethel is heard in the back, all the time on the track. whether it be in the screams, in the groans and moans, or in the whimpering crying and choking on her breath near the end. also after the last verse, a death rattle is heard which then foreshadows her death in august underground 😊
She is absolutely a once in a generation type of artist who has immense talent, she seems to be trying to make her way on her own terms. I will be waiting anxiously for the next album. Has two other songs I really enjoyed "Crush" and "Michelle Pfieffer". Love the group Warpaint, Sharon Van Etten, London Grammar and Daughter for some additionally talented musicians.
in thoroughfare in the beginning she is talking about the man, isaiah, how he saw his parents relationship and how he wanted that for himself. how he may have loved her but it was not a healthy love and ethel would find that out later on.
Ashley, Nicole Dollanganger is perfect for the melancholy, Southern Gothic vibe. Especially with her childlike singing voice and dark lyrics. I think you all should listen to her album “Married In Mount Airy” its really good! My favorite is “Nymphs Finding The Head of Orpheus”
i love that although this album has a set concept and story, anyone can interpret it however they like. like in hard times when she talks about still being tied to her father through the abuse he put her through, a lot of women can relate that to not only their fathers, but love interests too. and in ptolmaea or however u spell it, she’s going though psychosis and talking to god, but a lot of women can also relate that to being abused or victimized. it’s such an amazing piece of art. the best art is something anyone can relate to and interpret in their own way.
Absolutely infatuated with this album. No words could express how this deep this album is, and how almost healing it can be when you relate to any part of the traumas she's has portrayed. Ugh, my heart❤
Love to see more ppl listening and appreciating her music, she’s such an awesome storyteller and musician. I think Thoroughfare is such an interesting song bc on the outside it seems like just a love story because Ethel as a character is an unreliable narrator. Others see Isaiah as a dangerous and shady guy, Ethel see’s him as nothing but good, she is actually kidnapped by Isaiah but romanticizes her capture because that’s the only way she knows how to deal with all these traumas in her life.
To ashley, if you love Ethel you’ll love her friend Nicol Dollanganger! Same vibe and Hayden has said she inspired her to make music if I’m not mistaking
i feel like in sun bleached flies she thinks about as you say "the life that could´ve been" the lives of the women she grew up knowing in her church, how the only thing they know ("it's all i know and it's all i wanna know") is their small comunity, serving their husbands and living for their children, and how her life would've been so limited but so diferent if she just stayed in her hometown and continued on the ste´ps of so many women before her
This is for Ashley. If your favorite tracks from PD are family tree, ptolemaea, and August Underground I recommend the albums Hiss Spun by Chelsea Wolfe and Deathconsciousness by Have a Nice Life. They’re both emotional yet vulnerable metal albums. Let me know what you think of them ☺️☺️
i’m sure someone else has mentioned this and i’m only at “A House in Nebraska” so you may discuss this later on but: this story is 100% fictional and in no way shape or form depicts Hayden’s actual life story. Her father was a deacon in the church, yes, but only for one elected term to my knowledge. Her mom is pretty good at clarifying on these types of videos, but given that it’s two years later she may not come around anymore to watch haha - Hayden had a tough life with ups and downs, but nothing to this degree at least to my knowledge. This story is just meant to depict what *can* happen to women in America, and is more so a collection of Hayden’s worst fears and the most brutal “what ifs” that she could concoct into a story. (This was stated in an interview she once gave) This album is actually the first part out of three albums that she plans to create surrounding this story. The next album I believe is meant to be from the perspective of Ethel Cain’s mother, and then the last album will be from the perspective of her paternal grandmother. Just wanted to add in my two cents! Now back to the video!
Like another comment said, Ptolomaea is not when she dies. I've like the interpretation of ptolomaea to be that she is hallucinating that she is talking to God! That through her religious trauma, she imagines a God that cursed women because of their "original sin" of betraying man. "Bound to suffering eternal through the sins of their fathers committed long before their conception" How women are only objects, promised to men and that it is what they deserve. That while what men are doing to them is a sin, it was promised to them and they deserve it. "Blessed be you, girl, promised to me by a man who can only feel hatred and contempt towards you" is God telling her that she is blessed for doing what is right by letting men do what they want with her. She is being abused by men who, at their core, hate women. She is essentially filling the role of women in how the church sees them. And also, in Sun bleached Flies, she is alluding to the women that are still trapped in the church, feigning happiness in their money and children. But they are only like the flies that have been sitting in the windowsill, looking toward their own freedom without realizing that they have been trapped inside without a way to get out. When she says "God loves you, but not enough to save you" she is once again bringing in the idea that while God loves women, he still damns them because of their "original sin" and is gifting them and all that they are to men. And of course God did not save her, even though she thought she was doing the right thing.
Easy 10/10. This album had put me on lexapro when it came out because i was reliving childhood trauma all over again. The pain throughout the Hard Times song is insane, portrayed it the same I would have if i was an artist.
Im super sick right now but your guy’s videos make me feel so much better, i love your commentary as it provides more insight into the music i listen to 24/7, keep doing what your doing :)
You guys might really enjoy "The Tale of Jenny and Screech" by Ren (the full 13 minute version). Musically, it is very different to this, but it kind of reminds me of it because it also depicts a pretty dark story. You won't be able to see the lyrics, but I think it's pretty easy to follow. It's only one song where he does this, but I'd also recommend Ren's other music. He's a phenomenal artist.
an artist like ethel cain to me would be nicole dollanganger! she’s super talented and hayden is also a fan of hers, anna von hausswolff’s album dead magic is also similar to preachers daughter
1:23:47 check out Nicole Dollanganger, she's an incredible artist that hevealy inlfuences Ethel and kind of one of the blueprints for this kinda vibe of music. Heart Shaped Bed is her best piece of work in my opinion, with Only Angels Have Wings being my fav song of hers.
For recommendations, though nog country gothic, very much experimental and abstract story telling: FKA twigs and Sevdaliza (my absolute favourite artist of all time) Especially Sevdaliza's album Ison or The calling.
i think rosie diamond is a really good artist that’s sort of similar to ethel is an underground sense. rosie still has a very “unique to her self”style but i feel that you’d enjoy it, Ashley!
I haven't heard a concept album that so articulately and sonically captures its story like this since Kate Bush's Ninth Wave off her Hounds of Love album. Ptolomea is the new Waking the Witch and I fucking love it.
not really southern gothic at all, but similar on a level of emotion, back story, and overarching theme, is In The Aeroplane Over the Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel. Very heavy emotion, vivid and visceral imagery, and backstory influenced by Anne Frank. Also lots of creative structure for individual tracks and one track flowing into another. Excellent album with a similar cult following.
While ethel cain def has a very unique sound/concept that is hard to see replicated in other artists, i do have a few southern gothic artists/songs that i think might match the vibe! I would recommend Colter Wall (Kate McCannon is my fave), the Civil Wars, Ozark Gothic by Pawns or Kings, Run On by Jamie Bower, and Widows Peak by Odetta Hartman. I have a while southern gothic playlist i can try to share if yall are interested 😂 love this genre of music!
Oof. As much as I liked this reaction... the girl said a few things that were wrong. One of the biggest is about when Ethel is killed. She is killed on august underground. I wish she had let the guys figure it out first... its like a huge point on the album and its heartbreaking and I wish she didn't say he ate her on Ptolomeae bc it wasn't the right time.
Shoutout to the girlie over there FEELING and getting the depth of lyrics and production. Those two bozos sitting there unimpressed lacking comprehensive skills. Stick to rap music. 😭
Hey, Primo here. Ashley has had time to fully marinate in this album as she is a big fan. In contrast, what you watched (if you even did) was our first spin of Preacher's Daughter. We actually very much enjoyed it for the production AND the storytelling.
Rico here. Sounds like you didn’t even listen to a thing we said about the songs. Before being judgmental about us ‘bozos’, how bout you fully analyze the video before leaving a comment. Or you can stick to being a troll
Womp womp to both of u. A mediocre reaction , didn’t pay attention to the bigger things and straight up were silent or stale face. Not every criticisms is a troll. I guess y’all didn’t watch your own video cz?
you should react to Harry's albums he only has 3 so far but his discography is immaculate and you can do them in whatever order, a lot of people know his big hits but he has so many hidden gems that people who aren't familiar with his music don't know about
Side note, Ethel is a character bc initially preachers daughter started as a film concept and I believe script she created. Also, preachers daughter was not only redone several times, but was done over 4+ years. Also, Ethel was a deacons daughter, but she says she had an amazing family life growing up and even after transitioning. Highly recommend her EPs, inbred is my favorite released work from her. I also recommend check out some of the demos for preachers daughter. Especially hard times and Gibson girl. Hard times demo was actually done by vyva melinkolya, but Hayden changed it days before sending in the album for release. She has said she regrets this a lot.
Where can I find the demo?
@@Levi-d2s youtube
@Levi-br4kq you can find demos on sound cloud, youtube and bandcamp but there's different ones on specific sites
A NEW PREACHER’S DAUGHTER REACTION OMG
The way I refresh TH-cam every day to see someone else go thru this album 😭😭
@@Itzjohnnyb0i no really, when I click the search bar “Ethel Cain preachers daughter reaction” is always the top recommended search
@@Itzjohnnyb0i ... sooo we all know that really annoying guy who uploads them all SEPERATELY??? COME ON 😭
@@canklecouture4050 OMFG I DIDNT THINK ANYONE ELSE WAS HAVING THIS EXPERIENCE I SERIOUSLY TRY TO EXPLODE HIM WITH MY MIND EVERY TIME I SEE HIM
So real for that btw, ive watched all of them
Fun fact: An Ethel Cain missing poster was released by Hayden a long time ago, aside with PD. It said that Ethel Cain was last seen being abducted into a truck near Texas. That's why the energy between Thoroughfare and Gibson Girl shifts so much. Thoroughfare is a delusion of Ethel, romantizicing her abduction by Isaiah. And how she develops love for the man who eventually kills and eats her.
“I never blamed you for loving me the way that you did" - Strangers.
Whoa never thought she was kidnapped! We thought she was hitchhiking and he was willing to take her anywhere she wanted to go. the marketing of the album is definitely unique and haven’t seen anything like it. Is there a written screen play or script of this album in the archives somewhere?
-Rico
@@RicoandPrimo Most of the story comes from Haydens lives, tumblr posts and peices that she has released.
@@RicoandPrimo There is a google doc somewhere in r/EthelCain with a compilation of every but of info there is about Ethel Cain. Il try to get it here.
Just for your more info. PD reflects o Ethel downspiral into death. The most important parts of her character and the men in her life. Her "true love" is Willoughby Tucker, sang to in A House in Nebraska. Also, if im not wrong, Logan Tucker, Willoughby's brother, is the guy that Ethel sings to in Western Nights. And finally there is Isaiah, the killer.
@@RicoandPrimothe album was originally written in a more cinematic/visual way, and was reworked over 4 years before being released. Hayden is actually planning on releasing a book with the story of the Ethel Cain universe, also preacher’s daughter is planned to be part of an album trilogy exploring the lives of the women in the preacher’s family (pretty sure they’re supposed to be about Ethel’s mom and grandma), and both the albums and book will delve more into the daughters of Cain cult topic that is teased in one of the songs
i love how excited ashley got when they started listening to ptolomea while the other two were like freaked out / concerned
Clarification: Ptolemaea isn't when Ethel gets killed and eaten. In Ptolemaea, she "faces the dark side" when under the influence of drugs. August Underground is when Ethel gets locked in an attic and dies there rotting. Televangelism is her spirit ascending, sun bleached flies is her looking back on her life, and strangers is when she gets eaten.
In ptolomea Ethel is killed. That’s the moment when the act of it happens, but she dies in august underground. The part of ptolomea where she keeps on repeating “stop” and the last one is a scream is when her boyfriend injured her, and while all of it was happening she was high.
@@q.q4027yeah no ethel cleared this already she dies in august underground as it’s still a drowsy track like ptolomaea. she dies in august underground in the attic that’s why you hear what we can assume is a gunshot and everything goes quiet. ptolemaea is her begging for mercy to isaiah and her “punishment” as the song stands for the punishment for traitors and the 9th circle of hell.
@@pweasedonteatme I just rlly keep wondering why if she doesn’t d1es in ptolomaea Ethel decided to include her death rattle in the end of the song? Like in the acapella version you can clearly hear her being murdered, it just doesn’t makes sense to me u know?
@@alemanrodriguezsofia5109 that just her screaming and begging for mercy to isaiah. once again the track/vibe continues to august underground where she is murdered and then you hear a gunshot (what i assume it is remeber tho we are being told the story through ethel which is drugged so she’s not a credible narrator ) at the end and then transition to televangelism. my theory is however that she isn’t in heaven but rather at peace that she’s no longer being tortured that’s why televangelism is so carefree. i think to write such a thoughtful story and just say she died and went to heaven doesn’t really seem like an ethel move to me
@@pweasedonteatme yes I do strongly believe in ur theory, I mean, having a complicated relationship with religion, church and belief and then suddenly becoming a believer is just not the point she wanted to make, I think it is her realizing and seeing her life not as a tragedy but her letting herself being forgiven and forgiving everyone around her (including the "God" that was never there for her).
ashley is giving so hard. you gotta have her in more vids ❤
she ate
love her she's so beautiful and well-spoken
stoppp i love ashley. she feels the music so hard. not only just sonically but lyrically at the same time. her reactions to every song even if shes already heard all of it. it also shows how great of an artist hayden is to create a story that keeps listeners feeling everytime they listen, no matter if its their first or millionth listen
My take on the lyrics in Strangers has been that she isn't so much addressing her killer when she says "I just wanted to be yours, can I be yours", but addressing the amalgam of all of the men in her life. There's a thread throughout her arc of wanting to find a pure and good love and every man lets her down in that regard. Whether it be her father's abuse, Willoughby's abandonment, or the violence inflicted on her by Logan and ultimately Isaiah, she was always searching for that acceptance, and I find it all the more heartbreaking that even in death she can't help but question whether it was her fault for not being "good".
Loved the reaction vid, Ashley's presence and reactions were such a mood lol.
🖤🖤🖤
I can relate so much with Ashley, i have been trying to show ethel cain to my friends giving them context of what the album is about, and the way she sings the songs ITS MEEEEE lol love her and cool video guys
Ashley slays on gawd - Rico
ptolemaea isn’t when she’s killed and eaten. it’s when isaiah gets violent with her just like her past relationships and she’s facing the “dark side” under the influence of all the drugs he’s been forcing her to take. in the instrumentals, the first one is isaiah killing her and the second one is her ascending to the afterlife. strangers is about him keeping her in a freezer after her death and eating her
The Sun bleach flies are a metaphor for the women stuck in the cycles of abuse the church perpetuates. Ethel's father did not love her mother, she was another victim of his abuse. Ethel's has referred to her as one of the flies waiting for the day they can escape. She has said her next album is intended to make Ethel's mother the new focus for this exact reason. It's also the reason why the family tree comes into play, the tree has victims of abuse throughout it.
Sorry about the grammar. I'm in a one on one cage match with my dyslexia. 😂
But yeah that's the reason why the last line of the album is directed to her mother.
We aren’t gramma police. You gave an awesome breakdown of the last tracks of this album and tied it all together very well. Can’t wait for another Ethel Cain album 💜
-Rico
Yeah the next album will be Preacher’s Wife, and then Preacher’s Mother after that which will be about Ethel’s grandmother ❤️❤️
@@mattbeaven1847 apparently the 3rd will be titled "Mother of a Preacher" instead of "Preacher's (...)" like the other two
So with House in Nebraska, as someone who grew up in a rural area in Alabama (where the character of Ethel is from, shes specifically from shady grove), there's a good amount of abandoned houses. it's not usually entire neighborhoods, but the further you get from suburban sprawl and the cities you see one or two in the areas between the road/highway and the forest,a nd they're usually barely being held together and are COVERED in kudzu. so much so that in the summer, you can only tell there's a house under it due to the squarish blob in the middle of the kudzu. i knew multiple people that would find a way in and use the houses as spots to smoke or hang out, and i assumed that's what was goin on here. that Ethel and Willoughby found of of these houses off the highway and use it as their spot. specifically, i see it as a "as long as we are here, we can pretend we live somewhere different, like Nebraska" and play pretend some kind of domestic life away from all the hurt in that town.
Thanks for sharing a little anecdotal information about Alabama, we appreciate you much
I live in WA state and in eastern WA, there’s kind of a similar issue. Tbh I didn’t know kudzu was all over the country. I legit thought it was a PNW issue lol
@@filthybeliever do yall have kudzu jelly:3
in ptolemaea, Ethel is heard in the back, all the time on the track. whether it be in the screams, in the groans and moans, or in the whimpering crying and choking on her breath near the end. also after the last verse, a death rattle is heard which then foreshadows her death in august underground 😊
She is absolutely a once in a generation type of artist who has immense talent, she seems to be trying to make her way on her own terms. I will be waiting anxiously for the next album. Has two other songs I really enjoyed "Crush" and "Michelle Pfieffer". Love the group Warpaint, Sharon Van Etten, London Grammar and Daughter for some additionally talented musicians.
OH WE’RE SAT.
We ate with this one ❤️
other artists that i adore so much beside ethel is fka twigs. she’s pouring all of her art and creativity into her work
Magdalene is that Gorllll
omg they should react to Twigs' discography!!!
in thoroughfare in the beginning she is talking about the man, isaiah, how he saw his parents relationship and how he wanted that for himself. how he may have loved her but it was not a healthy love and ethel would find that out later on.
If you want another album that delves into Dante’s Inferno, Hozier’s Unreal Unearth is AMAZING
Ashley, Nicole Dollanganger is perfect for the melancholy, Southern Gothic vibe. Especially with her childlike singing voice and dark lyrics. I think you all should listen to her album “Married In Mount Airy” its really good! My favorite is “Nymphs Finding The Head of Orpheus”
i love that although this album has a set concept and story, anyone can interpret it however they like. like in hard times when she talks about still being tied to her father through the abuse he put her through, a lot of women can relate that to not only their fathers, but love interests too. and in ptolmaea or however u spell it, she’s going though psychosis and talking to god, but a lot of women can also relate that to being abused or victimized. it’s such an amazing piece of art. the best art is something anyone can relate to and interpret in their own way.
Absolutely infatuated with this album. No words could express how this deep this album is, and how almost healing it can be when you relate to any part of the traumas she's has portrayed. Ugh, my heart❤
Love that u guys actually did a research on this one!! ❤
Love to see more ppl listening and appreciating her music, she’s such an awesome storyteller and musician. I think Thoroughfare is such an interesting song bc on the outside it seems like just a love story because Ethel as a character is an unreliable narrator. Others see Isaiah as a dangerous and shady guy, Ethel see’s him as nothing but good, she is actually kidnapped by Isaiah but romanticizes her capture because that’s the only way she knows how to deal with all these traumas in her life.
To ashley, if you love Ethel you’ll love her friend Nicol Dollanganger! Same vibe and Hayden has said she inspired her to make music if I’m not mistaking
i feel like in sun bleached flies she thinks about as you say "the life that could´ve been" the lives of the women she grew up knowing in her church, how the only thing they know ("it's all i know and it's all i wanna know") is their small comunity, serving their husbands and living for their children, and how her life would've been so limited but so diferent if she just stayed in her hometown and continued on the ste´ps of so many women before her
i recommend: Chelsea Wolfe
she has that same southern gothic folk but also dark ambien sound
Yall really put in the work on this video! Love the edits, especially at 5:58 😂
Bro the way you guys listened to the two albums Ive listening to this year back to back (Ultraviolence and preachers daughter)
This is for Ashley. If your favorite tracks from PD are family tree, ptolemaea, and August Underground I recommend the albums Hiss Spun by Chelsea Wolfe and Deathconsciousness by Have a Nice Life. They’re both emotional yet vulnerable metal albums. Let me know what you think of them ☺️☺️
RIP to the homie on the far right, I watched his soul leave his body at 56:26 lol
i’m sure someone else has mentioned this and i’m only at “A House in Nebraska” so you may discuss this later on but: this story is 100% fictional and in no way shape or form depicts Hayden’s actual life story. Her father was a deacon in the church, yes, but only for one elected term to my knowledge. Her mom is pretty good at clarifying on these types of videos, but given that it’s two years later she may not come around anymore to watch haha - Hayden had a tough life with ups and downs, but nothing to this degree at least to my knowledge.
This story is just meant to depict what *can* happen to women in America, and is more so a collection of Hayden’s worst fears and the most brutal “what ifs” that she could concoct into a story. (This was stated in an interview she once gave)
This album is actually the first part out of three albums that she plans to create surrounding this story. The next album I believe is meant to be from the perspective of Ethel Cain’s mother, and then the last album will be from the perspective of her paternal grandmother.
Just wanted to add in my two cents! Now back to the video!
Thanks for your two cents! They mean so much to us!
-Rico
Well Ptolemaea isn’t when she gets killed , she dies in august underground
Please invite Ashley when you're listening to NFR
actually😫
That’s my best friend!!! My girl Ashley
And her last memory was the polaroid picture of her dead body
Bruh i was soooo upset when she spoiled that she was eaten wayyyy too soon 😭😭😭 Literally was yellin at my screen like NOOO NOT YET
cutting the best part of hard times is a CRIME
Like another comment said, Ptolomaea is not when she dies. I've like the interpretation of ptolomaea to be that she is hallucinating that she is talking to God! That through her religious trauma, she imagines a God that cursed women because of their "original sin" of betraying man. "Bound to suffering eternal through the sins of their fathers committed long before their conception"
How women are only objects, promised to men and that it is what they deserve. That while what men are doing to them is a sin, it was promised to them and they deserve it. "Blessed be you, girl, promised to me by a man who can only feel hatred and contempt towards you" is God telling her that she is blessed for doing what is right by letting men do what they want with her. She is being abused by men who, at their core, hate women. She is essentially filling the role of women in how the church sees them.
And also, in Sun bleached Flies, she is alluding to the women that are still trapped in the church, feigning happiness in their money and children. But they are only like the flies that have been sitting in the windowsill, looking toward their own freedom without realizing that they have been trapped inside without a way to get out. When she says "God loves you, but not enough to save you" she is once again bringing in the idea that while God loves women, he still damns them because of their "original sin" and is gifting them and all that they are to men. And of course God did not save her, even though she thought she was doing the right thing.
Easy 10/10. This album had put me on lexapro when it came out because i was reliving childhood trauma all over again. The pain throughout the Hard Times song is insane, portrayed it the same I would have if i was an artist.
Im super sick right now but your guy’s videos make me feel so much better, i love your commentary as it provides more insight into the music i listen to 24/7, keep doing what your doing :)
Get well soon! R&P will keep on providing the good stuff for you 🔥
29:05 LMAOOO his face when he heard the flies
You guys might really enjoy "The Tale of Jenny and Screech" by Ren (the full 13 minute version). Musically, it is very different to this, but it kind of reminds me of it because it also depicts a pretty dark story. You won't be able to see the lyrics, but I think it's pretty easy to follow. It's only one song where he does this, but I'd also recommend Ren's other music. He's a phenomenal artist.
Wonderful, enchanting, mesmerizing lyrics!
I actually do agree with him. American Teenager does sound like something you could hear from taylor swift(especially new age taylor).
1:01:21 best ptolemaea impression i've heard💀
“You know” is the new “like”
Maybe Natural Born Losers by Nicole Dollanganger next and Daisy by Rosie Diamond
Yesssss Nicole, Ethel and Daisy have mastered southern gothic as a genre.
an artist like ethel cain to me would be nicole dollanganger! she’s super talented and hayden is also a fan of hers, anna von hausswolff’s album dead magic is also similar to preachers daughter
1:23:47 check out Nicole Dollanganger, she's an incredible artist that hevealy inlfuences Ethel and kind of one of the blueprints for this kinda vibe of music. Heart Shaped Bed is her best piece of work in my opinion, with Only Angels Have Wings being my fav song of hers.
my god ashley is gorgeous
For recommendations, though nog country gothic, very much experimental and abstract story telling: FKA twigs and Sevdaliza (my absolute favourite artist of all time) Especially Sevdaliza's album Ison or The calling.
i think rosie diamond is a really good artist that’s sort of similar to ethel is an underground sense. rosie still has a very “unique to her self”style but i feel that you’d enjoy it, Ashley!
she also only has one album and two singles out!
Guys, you need to react to the album Ceremonials and HBHBHB by Florence + The Machine
i will give my humble recommendation of yall should react to marina and the diamonds !
I haven't heard a concept album that so articulately and sonically captures its story like this since Kate Bush's Ninth Wave off her Hounds of Love album. Ptolomea is the new Waking the Witch and I fucking love it.
If you like Ethel Cain, you should definitely check out Lana Del Ray's Ultraviolence❤
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Omg that's the first thing that came into mind when I heard American teenagers. TAYLOR SWIFT. the detailed songwriting too.
if you could please do Inbred and golden age by her I'd be so sat
41:35 Love Dijon so bad
Dijon is so underrated, also Mk.Gee !
just saying if you do all her EPs in one video I'll be SAT it's just 2 short ones
not really southern gothic at all, but similar on a level of emotion, back story, and overarching theme, is In The Aeroplane Over the Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel. Very heavy emotion, vivid and visceral imagery, and backstory influenced by Anne Frank. Also lots of creative structure for individual tracks and one track flowing into another. Excellent album with a similar cult following.
melanie martinez next? maybeeee? crybaby is more of a concept album than the other 2 but they’re both sooo good!! loved this video too ❤❤
The “you” y’all described in “Thoroughfare,” is frequently referred to as “the disguised I.”
While ethel cain def has a very unique sound/concept that is hard to see replicated in other artists, i do have a few southern gothic artists/songs that i think might match the vibe! I would recommend Colter Wall (Kate McCannon is my fave), the Civil Wars, Ozark Gothic by Pawns or Kings, Run On by Jamie Bower, and Widows Peak by Odetta Hartman. I have a while southern gothic playlist i can try to share if yall are interested 😂 love this genre of music!
nicole dollanganger inspired ethel cain
Ok but Nicole without Ethel nothing
@@Preachers_daughterno way
How did you skip the best part of Sun Bleached Flies in the video!!!!!!!!
My 6 favorate trucks
American teenager
Due hunting demo
Pouchers pride
Nettles demo
Family tree intro
Unfortunately long a while
We're u drunk writing this lol
@@enochivn8766 ok thanks
you guys should definitely react to melodrama by lorde
YESSS
You should listen to FKA Twig’s Magdalene Album. It’s similar to this in that it’s really unique and artistic. It tells a story.
Oof. As much as I liked this reaction... the girl said a few things that were wrong. One of the biggest is about when Ethel is killed. She is killed on august underground. I wish she had let the guys figure it out first... its like a huge point on the album and its heartbreaking and I wish she didn't say he ate her on Ptolomeae bc it wasn't the right time.
It’s quite alright, we were still appalled by the cannibalism. We still appreciate her being there to help dissect the lyrics
@@RicoandPrimo still really appreciated the vid and her in it! Just wanted to memtion some of the stuff she said wasn't true
hayden silas anhedönia is the best amazing musician for everything but i dont understand why she made rabid cover on nicole only 30 seconds snipped
why he wasnt gagged omg
You should definitely, 1000% do a reaction to the album "Sinner Get Ready" by Lingua Ignota.
gr8 video
wait this is excitinggggg
Shoutout to the girlie over there FEELING and getting the depth of lyrics and production. Those two bozos sitting there unimpressed lacking comprehensive skills. Stick to rap music. 😭
Hey, Primo here. Ashley has had time to fully marinate in this album as she is a big fan. In contrast, what you watched (if you even did) was our first spin of Preacher's Daughter. We actually very much enjoyed it for the production AND the storytelling.
Rico here. Sounds like you didn’t even listen to a thing we said about the songs. Before being judgmental about us ‘bozos’, how bout you fully analyze the video before leaving a comment. Or you can stick to being a troll
Womp womp to both of u. A mediocre reaction , didn’t pay attention to the bigger things and straight up were silent or stale face. Not every criticisms is a troll. I guess y’all didn’t watch your own video cz?
@@endymion222 lol aight bro - Primo
before u go bashing taylor too much u should listen to her songs from folklore and evermore as they are lyrical masterpieces.
He doesn’t eat her till strangers
would you be open to reacting to something folky? you should listen to Tallahassee by The Mountain Goats :]
Oof that's a deep cut
yesss
or sunset tree
ETHEL MF CAAAAAAAIN (mother)
When are yall gonna review the Hamilton Soundtrack?
All I have to say is that the dude on the far right is fine af, lawd
Sooooo fine
Can you guys to weyes blood titanic rising
you should react to Harry's albums he only has 3 so far but his discography is immaculate and you can do them in whatever order, a lot of people know his big hits but he has so many hidden gems that people who aren't familiar with his music don't know about
Can y’all react to the Gorillaz album Plastic Beach? ❤️
delicious baby
Ooooooooo
oh yeah baby
Only came here for American Teenager
React to folklore by Taylor swift❤
dijon mentioned W