Can you Charge an EV Using Only 120V Power? | Yes! - Here’s How
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2023
- In this video, I discuss my experience with charging the 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 on only 120V, level 1 power. The charger that comes with the Ioniq 5 maxes out at 12a on 120V power which equates to roughly 1.3kw of power into the vehicle. I found that this is actually enough to charge the Ioniq 5 back to where you started the day if given enough time and your commute is fairly short. Even if you are unable to recover 100% of the energy you used in a given day, you can still recover much of it and with the large battery packs of today's EV's you are given a good buffer unless you are planning a road trip the following day. Let me know how your level 1, 120V charging experience has gone if you charge this way!
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The included Hyundai level 1 EV charger most likely has the added capability of charging at level 2, albeit at a maximum of 240 volts at 12 amps.
Why? It's because Hyundai EVSEs are manufactured so as to be usable in all world markets where the majority of countries utilize 230-240 volts.
As such, all that is needed in order to make the connection from your Hyundai level 1 EVSE to a typical 240-volt source such as a NEMA 6-15 or 6-20 outlet is a very inexpensive 6-15p to 5-15r adapter available from Amazon.
Attach the 6-15p end of the adapter into a 6-15 or 6-20 outlet and then complete the connection by then inserting the adapter's' other 5-15r end to the 5-15p end cord of the Hyundai's level 1 EVSE.
Once attached to your Ioniq 5 (or any other Hyundai), you'll get 2.7/2.88 kw/hr of charging power, which is at least double that of level 1 charging!
A note of caution!
You absolutely, without fail, must confirm that your particular Hyundai level 1 EVSE indeed has the ability to also accept 240 volts of power by going to the EV doctor website and checking the list of vehicle EVSEs, and their identification numbers, that have successfully been tested at 240 volts!
If your particular level 1 EVSE isn't listed, then don't try this workaround method of obtaining 240 volts for safety reasons!
If you have very little knowledge of electricity, it would be best to consult with an electrician prior to attempting this!
Also, this 6-15p to 5-15r adapter is strictly to be used only for the above-mentioned purpose and no other!
Therefore, keep the adapter's 5-15r end covered with a blank plug, clearly marked '240-volts only,' so as to prevent anyone from attempting to connect any 120-volt devices since this adapter is only meant for 240-volt sources!
As such, keep this particular adapter safely confined next to your Hyundai level 1 EVSE in your vehicle until it is needed!
You should obtain at least 9 to 11 miles per hour of charging power with this set-up, thereby shortening your charging time to less than half that of a typical level 1 EVSE!
can you?
yes.
but should you?
just the differences in losses adds up.
and your analogy is right.
the charger is an appliance that uses a bit of power to work.
and it uses the same power pretty much no matter the amount of power it's converting.
got a new bolt euv, and it comes with a level 1-2 charger with 2 plugs.
your car can use 9a 120., or set to 12a 120.
then level 2 on it with a 14-50 plug adaptor gives 9kw.
i got an extra charger for permanent mount able to serve the whole 11.5 kw capable of the onboard charger.
a little faster but should be even a bit more efficient.
The onboard power converter, which converts AC (wall) power to DC (battery) power, there will be some loss, including thermal loss. There's much more charging "headroom" with 240V, meaning the net losses will be quite a bit lower. Level I charging will add around 3 miles of range per hour of charging. Bottom line: If you stick with Level I charging at home you MUST charge every night, or plan on visiting a public charging station.
How do you set the battery to charge to 80%?
this is the kind of info all salespeople should have for potential EV buyers. Break it down and let the buyer be more informed of home charging on regular outlet vs the L2 charging.
Appreciate it!
We started with a PHEV and a 120V charger, it was around 8-9 hours if we ran it all the way down. We got a cheap 3.8KW charger from amazon and that cut the time to 2-3 hours. Later we traded the PHEV for an Ioniq 5 AWD, the 3.8KW charger got us by but could be 6-12 hours depending on how far we drove, again not ideal. Now we have a 40A charger that will cover a lot of driving in 2-3 hours. I don't think a 120V charger would cover our daily driving on the I5, we would need to stop to fast charge once or twice a week to fill er up.
Very interesting progression but it all makes sense. How many miles are you driving/battery using on a daily basis?
@@CarsMadeSimple We drive just over 100 miles a day, although usually I charge at work. Today we went 110 miles and didn't charge so I'm plugged in now to get my 110 miles back. Shows it will be about 3.5 hours on the 40A 9.2KW charger. On a 1.4KW 110 charger looks it would have been about 24 hours.
@@SkaBob Depending on the state of charge, that sounds about right.
No part 2?
I plan on charging a Smart Electric Drive on a generator... Would it make a difference or would it even work and charge faster on a 30Amp but just 120V outlet on a Generator?
The quickest you can charge an EV (that I have seen) with a level 1 EVSE is at 16 amp's which is 1.6-1.7kw. The charge rate will depend on the EVSE as well as the outlet power.
do I need special wall plug for like hot tubs or is standard 120 ok?
You can use a standard 120V outlet but it is highly recommended to use a dedicated circuit for EV charging given the constant draw for hours on end. If you want to use a circuit already available to you, just make sure nothing else is plugged in on the circuit and you should be fine.
I charge with 120 volt
thanks for this ! I am considering an Ioniq5 - is there a particular cable (extension chord) to use ? what are the safety considerations ? Not sure I heard that in the video.
You can buy EV charging specific extension cables for Level 1 or Level 2 charging. It is not advised to use a regular extension cord for EV charging.
3 days later lol
Now….do this exact same experiment on a Hummer EV. 😂
Believe it or not, that might actual happen in the future! 😉
Has one hell of a big power pack. Should be interesting.
It sure does! Less efficient and larger pack should mean less mileage possible to be driven all things equal to recoup all energy lost that day.
Assuming a 0-100% charge on a 212KWh battery with a 1.3KW charger it would be 163 hours. But since charging isn't 100% efficient, even less at 120V, maybe closer to 175 hours. Or A little over 7 days. But it's just a guess, batteries usually keep a buffer so a 212KWh battery may only have 200-205 usable.
@@SkaBob I would never try charging it from 0% to full. I would only attempt to cover my usage for a single day which tends to be between 23-30 miles.