Can Modern VFX Artists Use a 30-YEAR-OLD MAC? Ft. LinusTechTips!
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This video is awesome and after having actually used the machine before sending it to you I'm extremely impressed by (some of) the results! Wow! - LS
Super dope of you to send it to them!
Hoi
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Well said.
Nice
"DOOM was obviously a revolutionary game when it came out"
*Shows DukeNukem*
Yep. This was weird 🤣
my thoughts exactly
Scooped me. Well done.
I've seen Doom running on enough calculators and wristwatches to know what Doom looks like, and
THAT, GENTLEMEN
WAS NOT DOOM
I think he said "duke" didn't he?
When I started in advertising, I used Photoshop 1.0, and you'll never know the joy of that first update when they added layers. It's was one of the five greatest things that's ever happened in my life.
How do you feel about how it's evolved since?
What are the other 4 greatest things?
I was wondering when they added layers. If only I knew how to download stuff back then when I had one of these systems I might've taken a photo shop. Then again the dial-up.
I want to know what the rest are.
What are the other four?
"Doom was obviously a revolutionary game when it came out"
*plays duke nukem 3d footage*
I guess they must be reeeally god VFX workers. Duke players they are not. maybe a 2021 Duke Nukem full model is in order for the redemtion
...on the apple machine or on a amiga (to be kind)
@@Boegeman It's time to kick polygons and chew fps. And I'm all out of fps.
I absolutely love your profile pic
@@batmanvsuperman_ Mirror's Edge forever
Here's the thing: it opens faster than the new Photoshop
Lmao shots fired
Extensions and plugins didn't exist back then
It's almost like the new Photoshop does so much more that it needs to load more. But hey if you're good with 512x512 resolution and 256 colors then sure.......
@@godthegod4491 25mhz though...
BWA-HAHAHAHAHHA! True!
Linus is Nick Fury and he's slowly uniting all the TH-camrs for a massive crossover.
I'm absolutely okay with that.
he's the crossova masta
I love you for creating that lore now moving forward
Linus: "You have made me VERY desperate. You might not be glad that you did."
Ltx
Corridor: "OMG this computer is so old and mysterious!"
Me, who works with aircraft electronics still running BASIC: "That's not old, it's got a mouse."
You use basic why can't we use any other language
@@shreyasp3287 In a lot of cases the computers installed in an aircraft are basically permanent- you'd have to entirely gut the craft and replace many systems to modernize the core. Way too expensive, and if it aint broke..
I believe that's one of the reason the F-22 Raptor never really took off, the tech they planned it to use was *so* outdated by the time it had been approved for manufacture and the cost/value wasn't there.
BASIC?
That's adorable.
Half our systems ares still running FORTRAN
Me, a post millennial child with a tangential interest in retrocomputing: I stand before the presence of gods
Oh, c'mon, a simple hardware mod and you can use an Amiga mouse with an 8-bit Atari.
“He wants 80s style”
Bro tell him you made it on a 90s computer
Doom, shows Duke Nukem
to be fair, doom was installed next to duke nukem in the games folder, they just didnt have footage of it running. blame the editors
Makes me so mad lol
There you are
Me: this channel seems cool, Linus must be sharing friends content
Them: Doom is a classic (shows Duke Nukem)
Me: *unsubscribed*
Literally unwatchable.
#1 advantage of old Photoshop vs new: you actually bought the software and weren’t just leasing a download.
I still use CS3. Because I own it.
Ching Liu has entered the chat
@@TravisFabel Same boat but for CS4, on a windows 7 laptop.
I technically own all of cs4 but due to family, moving and life incidents and the corruption of the boot sector on the computer it was originally installed on, I no longer have access to the physical media or the serial number (it was registered on my behalf by my late stepdad so I can't claim the adobe account). at least photoshop cs2 serial numbers are publicly accessible via adobe. I miss playing with after effects though. I'm gonna have to check out blackmagic design's compositing software to go along with davinci resolve.
@@TravisFabel but you don't "own" it. You pay a license to use it.
That "custom" filter is actually really powerful once you figure it out- it's essentially a really, really basic version of the code behind a ton of modern filters, and can do everything from smoothing to edge finding (but it only works at a really low resolution) Each box is a pixel around the "target" pixel, -1 means "increase contrast vs this one", 1 means "blend with this pixel", values between or outside that let you do more exotic weighted contrasts and blends.
mathematically, it has to do with convolution, I believe. A convolution is an operation that can be applied to a matrix (image). The filter that can be customized is called the kernel whose values can be adjusted to achieve different effects in the convolved image.
I'm happy I read these comments. My curiosity is definitely spiking! 🤔
Yes, as a computer vision researcher, I can confirm that. In theory by combination of convolution operations, you can achieve ANY image effect you want (well, except those are not achievable by normal kernels like the median filter). I'm surprised and also kind expecting that this is customizable in Photoshop.
This option essentially lets you edit the convolution matrix that is applied over each image pixel when you select a filter. The one we saw in the video with the four -1s around the 5 in the middle was the kernel for the sharpen filter (or edge detection, Im not sure). Square blur would be a normalised matrix with equal entries everywhere.
I am honestly a bit surprised that the guy who works with photoshop every day seemingly did not know this.
"This is where you put the save button"
Never change
You aren't just paying $5 for crappy results, you're paying for an unforgettable experience.
That Crappy result would have been FIRE in the 80's.
This video makes me appreciate everything we have now so much
I love how since you have a checkmark, you got put up to the top of the comments to get likes 🤔 TH-cam what are you doing?
@@alextheferret5674 definitely Agree with you sir. Yesterday I posted a Comment and in less than 20 minutes got 127 likes and then TH-cam shadow Banned the comment. I hate this behavior. 😠
@Kriscoart Also, I am not hating on you, you deserve to get likes, but TH-cam keeps pushing users with checkmarks to the top. Just 27 minutes ago, you had 8 likes. Now you have more than 286 just because of youtube pushing you up to the top. Idk, just kinda weird
Now my core duo (not even core 2 duo) laptop looks plenty powerful to me.
Really? Out of all the things that happened in 2019 and 2020, this video is the one that made you appreciate what you have? Not Covid-19 locking us up? Not Australian wildfire? Not American's government failure? Not (R.I.P.) Kobe Bryant's death?
8:00 this is a custom filter matrix that you can fill in, basically telling the computer how to calculate the new pixel (and it's neighbour) base on the matrix. I learnt about it in Computer Graphic class few years ago, never would imagine that it would become useful now that we have traveled back in time to use the original PTS.
is the 2D kernel used in a convolution
GIMP has basically the same dialog "somewhere"
@@sarowie "Convolution Matrix". You can easily implement Sobel Laplace, Gaussian blur, just by changing the coefficients.
So when I was only 8 years old my Mom was involved in a small business that digitally retouched photos back in the early 90s. This was the tech I remember them using. It seems really antique now, but I remember they could get amazing results back in the day
I was 100% convinced the misspelling of “Address” was on purpose... then Niko said he didn’t notice until Linus mentioned it. xD
I honestly didn't notice it either. I could tell something was off but I was too distracted by, y'know, the rest of it.
---> Graphic Designer and I saw that RIGHT THE BLIP AWAY... and clients give Me RIGHTEOUS S**T for glitches like that. I was straight up wondering if "was that on purpose??? Is it the actual channel name, or is Niko goofin'...?"
I'm disappointed we didn't get a reaction of the Middle Child Syndrome art because that one was actually pretty rad. Peter's the man.
We can only hope they'll actually put this art on their album.
I'd pay top dollar for that NFT
i won't be surprised if that kind of artstyle starts appearing on today's album covers
Right?? That’s the only reaction I was really interested and in seeing.
@@nobody7817 yep I could agree with ya, mate!
I love how pissed Sam looks in the background during the call lmao
The custom filter is for setting a custom kernel that can be used to perform convolution with the image. With this you can do edge detection, blurring, improve sharpness, etc! Pretty cool stuff!
I literally shouted, "Holy shit!", when I saw that. I can't imagine normal end users ever having to enter the values for custom kernels nowadays. To anybody without the necessary math training, it definitely would look cryptic when entering the matrix elements in that interface
@@aether9083 same here, and I just used Custom Filter in Blackmagic Fusion for my work earlier hahaha
It really surprised me, that's an amazing feature for someone that likes to fiddle around!
1:25 "There's like a rat hair in there" Really blew your chance at a mouse pun there...
Maybe that is the joke😮
He touched a Linus ball hair.
It was stuck to the ball too 🙈
@@hardlyworgen71 his only fans is looking great rn.
Sad sarah noise
They really haven't changed that menu in 30+ years 🤣 its the same in Premiere Pro as well !
It works, why change it 🤷🏼♂️
If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it
If it rolls, stay rolling
They did add hex to it.
If good, keep good
I'm not even in my 20s yet and knowing that 1990 was 30 years ago scares me.
atleast you are a genious at Math.
Yeah, it's weird how the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's were completely different but ever since the "modern" 90's everything has pretty much stayed the same. Obviously technology has evolved but general fashion and pop culture hasn't changed much at all.
Like, I was a teenager in the 90's and I hated the 80's synth pop music and the fluro and pastel coloured clothes and perm and mullet hairstyles. The 90's was black and grey and more "sophisticated" and we have been more or less the same ever since
Ikr. I am born in -89. So for me growing up, everything from the 70's was "30 years old"
Now I have to face the truth that my childhood is as far away as that seemed to me back then... Fml
I was 25 in 1990, imagine how I feel.
@@Wistbacka Your childhood is only as far away as all the unforgettable memories in your heart are 😘 haha
When Sam mentioned Marathon I nearly jumped out of my seat. I love every Bungie game
As an Apple fan, I still get angry that Bungie abandoned Apple to develop for Microsoft’s XBox. Curse you, Bill Gates!
Guys... your toy was my powerhouse back in the 90s. We used to think ‘how can it possibly get better than this?’. In fact there was a guy at an Adobe presentation who said ‘to an unborn generation, this will be as easy as using crayons’... you’ve proved that he wasn’t lying.
Yep, it was such a jump up in power, at a really good price. I had several at work... loved 'em.
I remember cleaning those bloody mice. I was always dropping the ball on the floor.
@@vercoda9997 oh dude for a second I thought you meant actual bloody mice
This was shit back in the 1990's I remember the horror. The first jelly coloured CRT iMac was a god send in comparison.
@@brokeandtired At the time this Mac replaced type-setting, wax machines and paste boards so was cutting edge and showed a glimpse of the unknown future we were moving into. The first iMac made these seem like they were going backwards by comparison and was singlehandedly the sole reason that Apple made it out of bankruptcy (2nd the Steve Jobs returning of course). I was freelancing in the UK at the time and all the agencies were mass purchasing the Bondi Blue iMacs. Fast forward to today’s M1s and it seems unimaginable.
Honestly that Lost Watch pic is so retro janky that it would work million times better than any of the generic synthwave album covers.
If that had been a Daft Punk album, I totally would have believed that was the cover for it.
Sam: sees Marathon; "Okay guys, take a vacation; I'll be sitting here until you come back as my 8-year-old self"
Back in elementary school I would go through pixel by pixel editing pictures in MS Paint because we didn’t have photoshop on the school computers. Took so damn long and barely looked presentable but I was proud of it
imagine if you had a program for pixel art XD
I once got relatively good results using paintbrush in Windows because that's all I had. I found the trick was to make your image much larger than the default size and when viewed fullscreen it doesn't have that unblended look as bad as the smaller images.
The Custom filter actually allows you to write your own convolution matrix, that's pretty cool!
So all those filters like Blur, Sharpen etc. were done with specific values in such a matrix, but nowadays you don't even need to know how they work internally.
was just gonna point that out myself, that's really neat that they let you just input your own convolution matrix back then if you wanted to.
Really impressive how featureful v1 was.
damn..
i always wanted to learn to use this back in the day
Glad to see someone else thought that was cool too. I was surprised to see something that 'technical' in photoshop, regardless of version.
For those looking to go deeper into the topic, I think this 8 minute video from Computerphile does a good job of that: th-cam.com/video/C_zFhWdM4ic/w-d-xo.html
It may help you understand what that Custom Filter tool is actually doing.
Does modern photoshop still support custom convolution matrices?
* Niko chatting with Linus *
Sam: ._.
It been said in other videos. That Niko is the partner who talks to other channels and people. Where as Sam is more reserved with the work
Sam still loves RED
*First I saw LINUS! in a prank 4090 Graphics card videos, and now here?* Looks like he's exploring everything!
I was wondering if it would be awkward because of their weird calling him out before.
Sam is badbadass
I like how the guy who requested the group picture edited was genuinely mad at them
Layers: *didn't exist in Ps 1.0
every VFX artist in existence: *CRINGE*
It was added in 3.0
The fact that they both made the save button joke is hilarious
Props for the historical accuracy of including the inevitable Hair-Wound-Around-The-Mouse-Ball-Roller.
the Question was it included on purpose or was it just included? Because functionality.
I've worked in VFX for over a quarter-century, and this machine is very close to where I started (8-bit machines)
Really cool idea getting fans involved at the end there
i see your comments everywhere lol
Absolutely, I'd love to see more Fiverr challenges. Maybe challenges like Fiverr requests in 5 mins, photoshop only using non-dominant hand and no shortcuts, photoshop while wearing upside down goggles, etc.
@@blazinghobby7089 i watch a lot of youtube
@@VEE3RDEYE same. Cool to see your channel everywhere lol
Burn in hell comment stealer
"They haven't changed this menu 30 years!"
Can't fix what's not broken.
**Laughs in Autodesk**
Well that's just how colours work. Most logical way to show the spectrum.
Actually the phrase is 'why fix what's no broken', you can indeed try to 'fix' what isn't broken, that's how we end up with shitty remakes like the american Oldboy, the CGI-ridden The Thing remake, live action Mulan etc.
@@cenciende9401 the original phrase is still absolutely correct. You can't fix what's not broken. The examples you gave were trying (emphasis on trying) to fix mistakes that weren't there in the first place, and therefore failed horribly. "Why fix what's not broken" is also a correct phrase, but the first one is much more suitably applicable here
DON'T CHALLENGE THEM, THEY WILL FIND A WAY!!!
@5:40. Talk about Doom while showing footage of Duke Nukem 3D and hope we don’t notice. Good try Corridor.
Wow, I remember using Photoshop 1 back in the day. The airbrush is your friend. To do any sort of layered composite images, you had to line it up as best you could, get it where you want and deselect, then use the airbrush to tease one color towards another along the edges to soften that harsh unblended edge... like.. manually blending literally one pixel at a time by eyesight. This brings back so many memories, lol!
One pixel at a time was the key to everything back then!
I clicked so many pixels back then. For complex compositions I remember having another canvas open where different parts would live in their own section of white space. When I updated a part I would then lasso it over to the main canvas. Closest thing to layers I could do I guess.
Former IT Administrator here just saying this video made my entire year. See you guys mess with this old piece made me super happy. Reminds me of the my old Pentium days with DOS. :)
windows.exe FTW!!
Lawn Mower Man on the big floppies mmmmmmmm
I remember the first time I saw layers in Photoshop. They freaked me out to the point I was like "well, can't do digital art anymore I guess, this is way beyond me."
Yeah, I'm still at that point to this day
"doom was such a revolutionary thing when it came out"
*shows Duke Nukem 3d*
I worked on a LCII for years. You can run photohop 3.1 in there which introduced layers and is a much better tool than 1.0, but it's biggest tools were Freehand and Quark. You may think that stuff was slow, but you have to compare it to working using photocopies, which was the way we did that when I studied design.
Next collab: Linus judges you on your ability to make a real hacking scene that is both realistic and not completely boring. That's way harder than you'd guess.
Make sure Anthony is involved and I'm totally on board with this idea.
Depends on your definition on the starting point, the recon phase could be interesting followed by social engineering etc
Actually it's pretty easy if you're doing more than just trying sql injections. Like there's so much inspiration from something like Stuxnet that would be pretty thrilling.
@@creativeanvil2783 Most people don't think of the social engineering without a direct technical attack on tech hardware and software as 'hacking', even though 'meat hacking' is very much critical to most exploits.
@@lobtyu Not sure exactly what you mean, but something like a little poke and prod on a search field and the 'aha' moment when it spits out a result it shouldn't would be cool, if you could get people to understand that the result was key to an exploit. We tech savvy might see a prompt at the root path and think "we're IN!", but most 'normies' would be oblivious. The Social Network did a good job of this just in dialog when talking about Mark's tricks to get the 'facebooks' of various dorms to spit out results of searches showing EVERYONE's pics, by entering a null search (hitting Search/Enter on an empty search field).
That maintancence issues cover looks like it would be the raddest album that only your weird friend knows about
@Qimodis joe.
Straight off the bat... should have sent them an Amiga with a Video Toaster installed!
I'd love to see you guys start with the earliest version of Photoshop, and progress through each version until you get to the earliest one that lets you do everything you can do today with a modern version.
and see how more and more scummy and arrogant Adobe gets with each passing year :y
I love how they are just hanging out on the floor like a group of kids
Floor gang
@@PsPmoddedOUT #Floorgang
"We've got... VGA to DVI!"
Oh, you sweet summer child.
0:13 wren almost hitting the ceiling fan confirms he is accident prone lol
8:01 - That's how an image filter looks like mathematically, it's a matrix used to calculate the value of a pixel (correspondent to the central element of the matrix, in this case 5) using the original pixel value and the values of the pixels around it. The matrix is scanned through the whole image (convolution). The known filter like Gaussian, Blur, etc all work like this, their result is determined by the values of the matrix elements. This window allows you to create your own filter, a super cool thing considering that today to do the same thing you have to manually open the file as a matrix and code your own filter and convolution, for example in Python or C++.
It's hard to believe they don't know it because it's the most basic concept of digital image processing.
OH MAN THIS MAKES YOU APPRECIATE ALL THE OLD SCHOOL FILMAKERS WHO WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH SO LITTLE TECH ADVANCES IN THIS FIELD
Why the caps King.
calm down with your comment sir, mr purple.
I think they talked about possibly the oldest cgi in film in one of their videos.
Basically every movement had to be mathematically inputted.
Yes every movement.
th-cam.com/video/0AcMp9JJ8q0/w-d-xo.html
It's pretty insane how much technology has improved over the years. What we're capable of now is so exponentially more than it was just a couple decades ago. And none of it would be possible without all the extremely intelligent people pathing the way for the rest of us.
This has to be the most unexpected collab to ever happen
Indeed
Corridor and Linus are OG YT creators and already collabbed on other content :D like when they played spyfall on NODE
Nope it’s not you are totally wrong and don’t deserve the 178 likes you got
Well corridor appeared one or two times at LTT channel
th-cam.com/video/0AcMp9JJ8q0/w-d-xo.html
Worth mentioning that the Mac featured in this video was basically the lowest-end Mac on the market and was generally consigned to the educational market. The high end of 1990 included a system, with 40Mhz 68040, that could accommodate six GPUs and [eventually] 128MB of RAM.
This is hilarious. I would like to see you guys progressively move forward with different hardware and see what you can make as tech got better.
*Video idea:* Can a modern videographer use a 30 year old camera to recreate a modern action scene?
you mean like make a corridor crew video but on 16mm film?
While a camera from 1991 would require them scanning the film to digital for editing (the best I could find for the first digital cinema camera was the Panasonic DVX100 in 2002, but digital cinema cameras had been used in the professional sphere since the late 90's), most of what's done in modern action movies is a product of editing. You'd be working off a more limited base (no digital cameras saving all the raw data rather than an unchangeable video file), but the editing tech is really where the differences would present themselves. Some directors still shoot on film now, it's not improbable. Using editing software from 30 years ago would be a different story...
@@noesunyoutuber7680 I think editing was originally going through miles of film, cutting and splicing where needed. That would make it a little bit more difficult. And time consuming.
I'm not sure how far back you can stretch this idea. They talk a lot on vfx react. Artists would have had the same tools, or comparable tools as of today, but it took a looong time to process anything, or animate anything, or rotoscope anything. To be fair, it would be like they would work a month to have the same result as a speed challenge of 15 min on modern machines with modern software.
considering the fact that they still shoot movies on film today because film still has better resolution than even 4k.
yea
it would be a relatively simple deal to shoot on a 30 year old camera.
in fact i'm fairly certain they do since the cameras are so expensive but so robust
"no pen tool" - yes, the pen aka Freehand Tool was invented by the competing software, Freehand, and was so superior to every other drawing tool that Adobe bought out the company so they could use it.
Aldus Freehand! Man, I'd forgotten about that, if you had Photoshop back then, you probably had Freehand.
Adobe had a pen tool way before they bought Freehand from Macromedia though
Naaaww first it was not invented by Freehand. But it was the first one in a more streamlined package. And no they did not buy Aldus to get it. They had their own version long before in illustrator which was released in 87 one year before freehand.
Also Adobe never got freehand in the first place. When they merged with aldus the antitrust deemed that the rights of free hands should be returned to its owner abs then it was sold to macromedia.
@@kwerk2011 Yep, I learned on Freehand, then Adobe bought it and killed it in favor of Illustrator.
The Collab we didn't know we wanted but we deserved. 💥💥💥
I was working on this LC as well as on diverse Quadras, the iifx (which I bought in a monster configuration with a 21" 24Bit Color Screen those days for more than $25,000), as well as on the Mac SE. On the tiny Mac SE - with a larger BW screen connected - I was typesetting books for a German music editor in Aldus Pagemaker. And yes Photoshop was so slow, that my coffee consumption during rendering gaussian blurs went through the ceiling... I am still amazed by the development of machines in the past 30 years. On my MacBook Pro M1 Max I can work in real time on 64GB .psb Photoshop files, render 4K in FCP, and work fluent in C4D. And knowing where I am coming from, it shocks me every time I am in layer 127 in psd adjusting some filter and see the result in real time on the screen.
This is taking me back to fifth grade in ‘95. The other kids and the teacher were amazed when I drew Spider-man and Venom by using a mouse.
Do you still have the image?
@@TheLegoJungle my fifth grade teacher might? I haven’t seen him or spoken with him in years. I might have it on my old Macintosh computer I have stored in a closet. I haven’t turned that thing on in 15 years.
@@elvisbarcellos7094 Turn it ON!
@@elvisbarcellos7094pretty please
So, when I was in high school, l was extraordinarily privileged to have a Mac, very similar to that one, in the art department (key word there is “a”) with Photoshop 2.0 on it (also pre-layers). The art department also had an actual digital camera then (a Polaroid something, VERY basic point and shoot). No one knew anything about it or touched it except me. I loved that Mac. I just want to say Thank You and everyone over at LTT for giving me a huge trip of nostalgia. And a shout out to Mrs. H my old Photography teacher!
Great story, thank you for sharing! I’m glad you really liked the videos and got to remember that from your past
I love how relaxed you guys are just chilling on the floor enjoying this computer!!
As an early 90's Photoshop user, I almost spit out my coffee when they realized there were no such thing as layers back then! Those were the days. REAL men still don't use layers.
17:21 Niko rapping 🔥
7:55 The custom effect seems to be showing a convolution matrix editor, where you could create your own blur or sharpening effects, by specifying how much each pixel bleeds into it's neighbours.
Yeah, really reminded me of Kirsch edge-detection (except, of course, everything. The only likeness is really pretty much only the kernel, since that is how blurring is done too)
Does make me wonder if that windows could be used to make custom effects advanced enough to run all 8 kirsch kernels though, and getting the max like you want. Or if you need to run 8 different effects and blend them somehow.
Nothing humbles you like learning during the conference with the client that you spelled one the two words in their logo wrong. Scared my cat laughing. I love this channel
Amazing how great we all thought that was back in the 90s, awesome work! Started animating vfx when I was 16 on my 486 DX4 100 for my A-Level Art coursework. Had a video camera and digitizer but couldn't digitize movement, only capture stills, so i moved very slowly to act out the action, replayed the video, captured a frame sequence. Used Aldus Photostyler to create file sequences for each layer. Manually copied the layers into a final composite file sequence (later used a macro recorder/programmer to automate this). Converted each final comp sequence into a GIF. Used a GIF sequencer/loader as an editor to play the shots in the correct order. Timed out the action with a stop watch, then built up a sound track using i think just 'paste mix' in windows sound player with a beep at the start to help synchronize. Recorded this to audio cassette. Hooked up my PC to the video in on my VHS recorder and the audio cassette to the audio in. Hit record on VHS, hit play on the audio cassette, waited for the beep then hit play on the GIF sequencer. Hey presto, I had an export with no encoding errors 😂 can't say i'd like to go back, but it taught me a lot! 😂
Here’s a fixed version of the saying: “It doesn’t matter what tools you use, it’s the artist that matters... to an extent”
It all makes me think of those TH-camrs who spend hours setting up all their lights, mics and cameras before starting a video where they explain that "Gear doesn't matter!".
I prefer "its the fool not the tool"
@@Albanez39 I think it's always implied that you have to have some basics like lighting and a decent camera and then it's about the person, who then can turn around and get even better stuff
Niko: What’s the oldest version of Photoshop you’ve used
Griffin: I think the oldest I’ve used is CS2 or CS3
Me: (Dusts off disc with Photoshop 5 on it) Hello, old friend!
Photoshop 3.0,that's when layers were introduced and PSD files (I think).
You really nailed it at the end - layers seriously makes it so SO much easier to do digital art. You can suffer without even having undo as long as you use layers properly.
More advanced layering systems with blending control, masks, etc. make that even better.
On a related note, I remember trying a hacky way to add layers to the old MS Paint by combining multiple Paint windows and an Autohotkey script to make the background transparent (I used the classic magenta for subsequent layers).
It was a monumental pain working across multiple Paint windows, but it worked. After incredible trial and error that is... good god.
I started on ps 1 and it blew my mind, coming from a traditional print background it changed my life. I remember doing a montage and having to use the clone stamp to paint an original background from a saved version to combine images, layers were the best feature by far. Glad those days are gone. I still have a Mac clone, when other venders were allowed to build Mac knockoffs, haha. Great vid!
This is several models more advanced than the Macs I learned on.
(breaks hip, leaves chat)
My hip feels this comment too.
Oh god you poor thing
The first Mac I was working with was PowerMac 7500. Plus Photoshop 3.0-4.0, CorelDraw 3.0, and Wacom ArtPad. That was my college day way back in the late 90s. So, definitely a couple generations newer than what Linus send to Corridor Crews.
Yeah, i grew up learning on a Apple IIc+ machine (one of those old black and green monitors. Only game was "lemonade stand"). We upgraded to a Performa 575 when i was around middle school. Eventually i got tired of the low RAM so i upgraded the 5MB RAM to add 128MB. Didn't get around to PC until we had a whopping 333Mhz system my dad got through work, and never went back to mac since
@@SurgStriker me too....remember drawing a circle you had to tell the turtle to goforward1 left1 x 360...... then it would make sort of a circle with one nearly straight line up the side...
For anyone wondering what custom does at 7:56, my guess is that it is a custom convolution matrix. An image is basically a 2D matrix and we basically have standard convolution matrices which we convolve with the image for different effects like Gaussian blur. By setting a custom convolution matrix, you can convolve basically anything. Yep, there's lots and lots of math behind these apps.
Having read that, I’m still wondering. 😂
@@arothmanmusic Here's the best ELI5-ish I could do quickly: the convolution matrix is a grid of numbers, and what a filter basically does is go over the entire image and calculate new color values for the pixels using the values of the convoltion matrix and the values of the pixels around it. Here it would only use the four immediate neighbors, but usually it's more. So it puts the center cell of this grid (in this case with the value 5) over the first pixel, then maths happen, then it goes on to the next pixel and does the same thing again. Rinse and repeat for the entire image and you have your filter.
you are right. there is a video by Zach Star "The Applications of Matrices | What I wish my teachers told me way earlier" that explains exactly that at the second half of the video if interested
[Insert Visible Confusion here]
"What's the oldest version of Photoshop you've worked with?" "I dunno, CS2, CS3"
...I have never felt so old -_-
2:06
"This is where you put the save button" lmao
I love the costume filter at 8:04 It is a matrix that is moved over the image pixel by pixel and calculates the new pixel value as a weighted sum of its neighbors with the weights that you defined in the pop up window (the mathematic procedure is called a convolution)
I kinda refuse to believe that none of those CG guys have any clue what it is. That stuff is only one of the fundamental building blocks of image processing and computer vision.
@@nahco3994 I was kind of surprised and a little bit shocked as well.
But maybe some if them knew what it was and only Griffin didn't. Maybe a short explanation got lost in the edit...
@@nahco3994 you don't necessarily have to know how something works once it's advanced and modern enough for you to be able to pick it up and use it as intended. For example, most videographers and photographers are not required to know how a camera captures images, only that ISO and shutter speeds are a thing and how they influence the end result. A lot of people use PC's also but most have no idea about the command prompts that used to start up old computers and why they would need to be there to begin with. I don't think it's that surprising. They never had to use them so. Not that I don't think basic knowledge might be useful to better understand how a more advanced software might behave based on the ground knowledge, or that they couldn't perhaps improve their own skills in complex computer graphics by getting some of the basics down first.
So, this is what happens when two dream companies come together to make a video!
Except two opposite trends. As Corridor has been leaning more into the technical aspects of things and having deep dive instructional, Linus has been severely dumbing down his content. He used to explain wave functions, now he explains how to figure out what's the top of the USB drive.
07:35 *"Custom" is for manually defining a matrix (aka "kernel" or "mask") for 2D convolution.* It's a very basic but extremely powerful algorithm. Most of the factory filters (blur, sharpen, find edges, ...) are most likely using the same algorithm behind the scenes, just by plugging different values into that matrix.
It works like this: Each pixel in the image is "convolved" separately with the kernel. You take the neighborhood around it, as big as the kernel (here: 5×5 pixels). Then, you multiply the brightness value of each pixel in that area by the corresponding value in the kernel, and finally all those get added together to get the new value for one pixel in the resulting image. Then, the kernel "slides" to the next pixel, and the procedure is repeated.
(Usually the resulting value has to be "normalized" by dividing it by the sum of values in the kernel, to keep the overall brightness the same and fit into the 0.0-1.0 (or 0-255) value range again.)
*Examples:*
1 in the center surrounded by 0s does not change the image.
All 0s except a 1 just above the center shifts the image up by 1 pixel.
All 1s gives you a box blur.
If you decrease the values around the center with a roughly circular falloff it looks nicer, e.g. for Gaussian blur (3×3):
1 2 1
2 4 2
1 2 1
The "Sharpen" kernel uses negative values and looks like this:
0 -1 0
-1 5 -1
0 -1 0
And a simple vertical edge detector (the "Prewitt operator") that lights up when brightness changes from left to right:
1 0 -1
1 0 -1
1 0 -1
The blog Programathically has a good explanation with images, which makes the idea probably much easier to understand.
Layers were added in PS 2.5. We had to suffer through saving a billion versions before that. (Yep, been there; it was brutal since saving a 20MB file would take about 2-3 mins on a state-of-the-art HD.) I am one of the few guys that lived this and is still in the industry.
It's so great of Niko to still give his time to Corridor even while his rap career as Young Gravy continues to blow up.
What are u talking about
i never realized the resemblance 🤣
Lmao I see it now
@@adonishomefitness There's a rapper named Yung Gravy and, at least to me, the resemblance between he and Niko is uncanny.
“They haven’t changed this freakin menu in like 30 years” 🤣🤣🤣
And it still takes up way too much screen space!
The custom filter in PS1 looks cool. Its a kernel matrix where you can write your own filter, like sharpening or blurr.
Isn't that a convulution matrix?
Wild how far it has come. This colab was amazing.
7:18 I love how everyone's in awe of a bunch of squiggles
7:54 In that "Custom filter" you specify the convolution kernel (that matrix of numbers you see in the dialog box) and the software uses convolution to apply the filter on the image.
Convolution is really cool, you can do average blur, gaussian blur, low pass, high pass, etc... all depending on what numbers you enter in the kernel. It's also used in audio and in engineering fields.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(image_processing)#Details
That moment when you realize you might actually be older than everyone working at corridor....
I was actually impressed by the quality of the Prince Of Persia graphics compared to my old Tandy version.
Oh, I know! Him saying his earliest Photoshop was CS2? I started on PS 9! XD
I guess it also depends how young you started. My dad taught graphics so I first used Photoshop 7 back when I was about 7 years old 😂
@@brankin421 Step back peasant! When i began my apprenticeship, my teacher was really happy about the new pen feature added in PS 2 ;)
@@xxJOKeR75xx :O
Started out in 3d using 3d studio, before Max came out. All in dos with only wire mode, no shaded mode at all. Would love to see you have a go with that and react 😀
Great to watch. My aunt started a little design firm right around 1984 and so was a super-early adopter of Macs, back when design on the machine wasn't in Photoshop and Illustrator, it was in Mac Paint and Mac Draw. Her first machines got passed down to my grandparents, who had an original 128k machine (upgraded to 512k) and a Mac Plus for years, and I spent hours on them while visiting for the holidays, machines a decade older than the one you're working with here. Wow.
(Man, I'm old. I get to tell people that while my junior high had a fancy new lab of Macs, they still had us take a typing class on the adjacent lab of IBM Selectric typewriters.)
okay but “what the clouds can see” looks so cool, it would totally fit with like a Bill Wurtz song
Duuuuddddeee I love that guyyy
Remember that scene from Apollo 13 when they have to quickly double check some calculations and everyone whips out their SLIDE RULES?
I had NO idea that quack sound at 5:20 came from a Mac
Sam: "Doom..."
Editor: Shows Duke Nukem footage.
Two TH-cam channels with the most ridiculously awesome sponsor segments/segways collaborating together. It's beautiful.
"They have a bounding box, It's just like the real thing." It's Photoshop 1.0 IT IS THE REAL THING...
*bounding
Yeah 1.0 is kinda THE real thing
I thought the same thing, that is THE bounding box!
at 8:15 the the filter box with all the positive and negative numbers is called a CONVOLUTION FILTER KERNEL which is a 3x3, 5x5 or 7x7 matrix that lets you accentuate or diminish the value of the pixel that the convolution filter is centred over. A Convolution Kernel multiples, divides, adds and subtracts all the values input into the box by the individual RGB or greyscale pixel values that are in the centre and the surrounding pixel values of the convolution kernel
You run a left to right and top to bottom scanning run of all pixels in an image and multiply the individual colour channel values of each pixel with all the surrounding pixels so you get a FILTERED version of that centre pixel value. You can find edges (i.e. Canny or SOBEL), filter out high frequency or super bright pixels (i.e. Hi-Pass filter) or all low frequency or super-dark pixels (i.e. Lo-Pass Filter). You can even get rid of specific pixel luminance, saturation or hues by using a Notch-based convolution kernel.
The numbers you type in are merely multiplication, division, addition and subtraction factors that send a pixel value up or down on one or more RGB colour channels or HSL channels depending on what TYPE of pixel values you are filtering.
Now you know!
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Would be interested in seeing Jim Blinn's voyager probe animations recreated on a modern setup. That was my astronomy/CGI crossover back in 1977 and I still think they look impressive today
I was wondering why Linus' new channel had Adress the whole time until they asked Niko why it was spelled wrong 😂😂
5:52 Everyone's reaction when something nostalgic from their childhood comes back to them without warning.
Corridor and LTT collaborations are always goated
I love both channels, watched Linus for years and the past year watched corridor