The Best Unit for Every Faction 2022 - Total War Warhammer 3 Series Top Units
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มี.ค. 2022
- Join me as we take a look at the BEST unit for every faction in the Total War Warhammer 3 series in 2022, including Khorne, Kislev, Tzeentch, Nurgle, Slaanesh, Cathay, and the Ogre Kingdoms Preorder DLC.
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Definitely agreed on the Blue Horrors. I remember seeing their statline for the first time and going 'Oh, so slower Skinks with Javelins without shields, but with more ammo, physical resistance, magical flaming attacks, loose formation, daemonic instability instead of routing, and a nice barrier to protect them from enemy skirmishing. 450-500 gold?'
Of course, that was back when I assumed that Tzeentch barriers would be like 300-400 hit points and mostly meant for mitigating poke damage. Instead a unit of Blues has *1400* hit points worth of barrier. The fact that Tzeentch gets this unit for *the same price* as a Skink Javelin is a crime.
Its balanced cause all the t4/5s are shit unlike liz
Definately among the best "chaff" units available in the series.
I really struggled against Blue Horrors with Cathay in the early game, until I realised a peseant archer spam was a good way to counter them as they have longer range.
Who does quality assurance for this game? Anyone? Definitely not anyone who has any idea how the game plays, what balance means, or how to appropriately price or build units for MP for certain.
@@fendelphi way more than among. They have no competition, no peers. Far and away the best tier 1 unit. As much as Gorgers have no match in any race or roster for tier 2 units.
Honestly, when I first saw the reveal for the Khorne Flesh Hounds from CA, I was expecting to use them just like warhounds and then replace them as soon as possible, but now actually playing the game, they have proven their worth over and over again, and have now became a primary unit I use in basically all of my Khornate armies
I would typically keep 1 unit of warhounds in my armies even into the late-game because of how incredibly efficient they are at finishing routing units (MUCH better at heavy cavalry at this) but with flesh hounds they’re actually late-game viable for hunting missiles/artillery and I still have 3 or more units in every army. My Skarbrand army is: Skarbrand, 1 Cultist of Khorne, 2 Chaos Warriors, 5 exalted Bloodthirsters, 3 flesh hounds, 3 skullcrushers and 5 skull canons. This army dominates everything! I might try and squeeze a bloodthirster in there for extra SEM gooning power but I’m near the end of the campaign and haven’t felt that I need it yet.
@@Rich-in6ds I had skarbrand a BR an CoK 9 exalted blood letters 5 blood thrusters and 3 soul grinders. And that army pretty much took over the entire chaos wastes and some of cathey on legendary/VH
@@zachcreaghcoen2389 same, blood letters are amazing and so damn cheap as well.
For me, best unit
Human Yuri could beat the crap out of Chaos Yuri.
Tariff covered that hilariously well
They did mah boi dirty. Don't fall to Chaos kids!
Human Yuri had chaff units with 150-200 melee attack & defense at his side too.
Can you make a video about which Daniel the demon is best at the end of his glory tree?
More like "which version of Daniel is least underwhelming?"
I have played him to max glory in both undivided and Nurgle. As a combat lord, he sucks either way. Stats are way too low. Nurgle was much better because the armor sets give very good troop replenishment and bonuses to your common troop types. After getting to max glory as Nurgle, I could autoresolve most battles on legendary difficulty, taking no losses and then fully replenish by the start of the next turn.
I really like a mixture of khorne and undivided. One of the armors at the end of undivided gives 15 physical resistance to everything and something else like armor I think which is pretty good to stack on top of the physical resistance that demons and especially khorn demons already get.
Damned Daniel you could say
Undivided thats the point is that he's Undivided
I just finished a iron dragon campaign, and i feel like the true MVPs of the campaign were the jade crossbowmen with shields. Got four early, and they were my first rank 9 units, and regularly had 100+ kills each in most every battle. They trade EXTREMELY well with other ranged units it seems, and are really good for reinforcing your main line when they run out of ammo.
Yes, but given their ease of access at T2 vs. T3, I'd argue that jade crossbowmen w/out the shields are the real MVPs. The shields make only a moderate difference, and the accessibility of T2 vs. T3 units is serious, especially early game, which is really the hard part of any campaign.
Your larger point holds though: Jade crossbowmen are awesome.
Celestial Dragon Guard are even more murderous.
Didn’t really find that the dmg output was significantly better than peasantry bowmen tbh, just stuck with the lm till celestial xbowmen, now THOSE are some nasty mofos
@@edwardrosenquist1970 Yes and no. IIRC, the crossbowmen have 160 range vs 140 for the peasants. Also, even though the missile damage is pretty comparable overall, the crossbowmen have a lot more AP missile damage (6 per shot vs 1 per shot).
But yes, Celestial Crossbowmen are the best unit on the roster in SP, hands down. Their issue is just the T5 recruiting requirement.
Crossbows with shields also have a bit more range too I think
For campaign at least, my pick for best Tzeentch unit are Chaos Knights. The barrier synergises incredibly well with cavalry, and the Knights have such good melee stats that they are the best melee infantry in the faction, despite not being infantry.
at 6:01 "Because they'll be chewed up, spit out and boo'ed off stage." A little sneaky 'lose yourself' reference I see indy...
I really liked Beasts of Nurgle during my Nurgle campaign, they do a surprising amount of damage and just will not die. Although I agree that the Soulgrinder is still better.
I was about to say the same thing. They just don't die! I don't think I ever remember one coming out of a battle with less than full health.
Is it not unfair to use the soul grinder since each faction has one? IMO it should be a unit that only that faction gets besides CU
@@trueterror3099 normally yeah but they all have different variants so they’re barely the same unit
I think beasts of nurgle should be anti-large, otherwise it's better to just take the soul grinder. Also nurgle has 0 anti large units
Yeah they’re really the only cost effective unit on the roster outside of nurgljngs for Kigath, I think people overlook them a lot
Cool units but can they shit nurglings?
Another point towards blue horrors is that they are so small that you can legitimately have your flamers fire OVER them.
Beast of nurgle too op guys trust ive fought 3 armies in a ffa and still won.
Cheap,regain,tons of hp, nice dps, decent speed, huge self buff with clod of flies, huge AOE debuff on enemies with slime trail, poison attacks x.x
Made an army of just pink and blue horrors. That army all had level 7 units before finally dying and even then it was valiant defeat. So yeah Horrors are amazing.
On a side note: Leadbelchers and gorgers. Even on legendary mode, these 2 units cheese everything.
Decided to try ogers with the spell caster and by god that build is just and print win button honestly. Oh no valiant defeat. Are you sure about that as you body the enemy army
kiting enemies with leadbelchers is hilarious
See in my Tzeentch campaign I've been rocking the flamers of Tzeentch and they do a ton for their prices point. Slap them among some horrors and they'll do serious damage to anything in their range.
Same here, but with the addition of a few screamer units. They're pretty good vs Khorne and Cathay armies, and it surprised me to learn that they're a fair bit more durable than the chaos furies.
I agree, but to "make it work", you do need that Horror screen. Which is why the Blue Horror is the most efficient unit. It ensures that all of the Tzeentch tactics can be put to use.
@@fendelphi I'm slaping 2-3 units of flamers without screamers and it works fine. Just be wary of cavalry and flyers, infantry isn't much of threat with that 50 speed
I'm usually not one to comment but man, you make some cool videos man. Just here to say keep up the good work :)
thanks Victor much appreciated, will do :)
Thank you for your content.
Thanks for the video
Pretty interesting picks, I really like the fleshhounds, but missed there the Khorne Warriors, for 750 while being slow, they are an amazing anvil, 100 armor with good stats, with frenzy even the shielded tanky version does good dmg vs light armor and mixed with a unit of exalted bloodletters is a deadly mix (basic bloodletters are so much worse than the exalted ones, for real).
For flesh hounds I´d love CA to add Karanak (basically Cerberus) as a lord/hero for variety
I would agree but sadly their dreadful speed just doesn’t match khornes ultra aggressive play style (for me at least) so they are always replaced with bloodletters
First 50 turns regular blood letters are my cost effective and less time consuming to stack up tho
@@zach942 especially with khorne, where 2 rounds waiting means missed battles and enemy had more time to prepare...
In terms of the campaign, I'm loving Leadbelchers for the Ogres. They may be expensive, but there's nothing as satisfying as watching a single volley halve a fresh enemy unit desperately trying to close the distance.
Something I'm very curious to see when we get to all the factions being playable together is how good will the god-tier micro of the pros elevate slaneesh
from what I'm hearing from a lot of people that slaneesh is arguably the weakest faction of the bunch, but if you have God tier micro there's a lot you can do
Yes, really good players tend to say Slaanesh is the strongest chaos god, while more average players say he's the weakest, especially glaring difference if you consider the diff level those two kinds of people are playing. Difference is, how much are you willing to invest in every single battle before you get tired and autoresolve everything. For me it was very short time i generally don't like the chaos rosters because how small and monotonous they are, and while the others all have at least some variety, Slaanesh is the prime offender. Also my micro willingness is basically zero. Finally after hours of just tedious trying i made keeper doomstack because that was basically the only thing that worked for me.
@@Vanhal11 it is a question of micro and I just comes down to the players abilities but it's like I was trying to explain to this guy he's like the forces of khrone are just so strong.
And I agree I think that each of the demons are op in their own little ways and I'm very curious to see how the other game to end game races with all the updates are going to be able to stand against them in an open battle because that is the one weakness of the demons is they do struggle against the sieges but let's say it's an open Land Battle.
I have found that pro players value speed above all else because speed gives you the ability to pick and choose your engagements and escape if something bad goes wrong. Slaneesh units melt and I had to head combat but maybe in the hands of a pro player they will be able to completely annihilate their enemies the only weakness that they really have is the lack of missiles which will make them suffer against missile heavy factions like the elves.
Play I'm very curious to see what the date is going to be because pros tend to not like slow armies from what I've seen like the dwarves.
I'm not saying that like it's hard to say that one faction is better than all others in all situations, I've seen the beastmen win a tournament where you had to pick a race and stick with it before they got their DLC. Multiplayer is very different from single player like you're saying where some factions are just going to struggle in single player but Excel and multiplayer so we will just have to see.
Another concern I do have though is the fact that it seems like the demons might struggle against air because they don't have a lot of and because they don't have missiles they don't have a lot of anti-air capabilities
The way they designed the new races in multiplayer is truly amazing and will help the game long term, multiplayer balanced for competitive play is probabaly impossible to do with so many races but let's see if they try.
People tend to confuse "weak" with "difficult". Same went for the Asrai when they came out. They aren't weak, they're just very difficult to master. Tends to be the case for most glass cannons in any game.
@@Aredel that's a good way to look at it. This particular person likes strong all around factions such as the lizard men who are solid and pretty much every way you can name with few weaknesses.
I prefer that factions have clearly defined strengths and weaknesses and if they are good all around that there's a drawback like cost like the Asrai or jack of all trades and master of none scenario like the Empire.
I think my favorite example that I use for this is brittonia. They are highly mobile faction with their nights who are heavily armored and sturdy and they have useful magic and solid Lords but at the cost of a weak front line and limited in their missiles. I could be wrong but it last I recall they have no armor piercing missiles so they have to factor that in every battle. You have to understand solid cavalry tactics to be good with them. However, they are very weak to armor piercing units and bonus versus large particularly things that can do both of those things. Just a good solid all-around faction with clearly defined strengths and weaknesses that you have to weigh when you use them in battle.
I have to agree 100% on the Terracotta Sentinel. I just did Khorne's survival battle last night in my Zhao Ming campaign last night and the Sentinels I summoned in even without chevron's were melting Khorne's exalted units like there was no tomorrow. If I had to pick a second unit for Cathay that would be worthy I would say either the grand cannon or the Longma riders. The longma riders are decently fast and have decent armor and because they are flying units you can pick your engagements a lot quicker. The grand canon is more accurate than the fire rain rocket and it has enough damage output to rip right through Tzeentch's barrier so that you can get units off the field.
Ligma riders...
Nurgle's Soulgrinders was the first doomstack I've made in WH3, and I need to say that after a lot more hours and experimentation in this game it's still one of the strongest I've made (even tho I might need to refresh my memory a bit).
Ku'Gath + 3 Plagueridden mounted on pest flies and healing gift + 16 Nurgle Soulgrinders + Pest recipe that gives 20% physical reduction damage to all the armies.
It's basically anti infantry battery, with 40% flat physical damage reduction, that moves fast and heals, and which is still very strong when caught in melee. It was a lot of fun to play.
To be honest the plague drones and rot flies have really shined for me. They have served me very well killing off the big baddies like bears or bloodthirsters
great video. I wish you would do 2 units per faction tho. Best unit taking price into account and one without (strongest).
Great video! Glad you chose a cost-effective way, balanced way of looking at their value rather than the spam cheese doomstack aspect that *certain* youtubers focus on...
For Nurgle, though....it's Nurglings. They are the best Nurgle unit.
Nurglings for Ku’gath are by far the most cost-effective infantry in the game, they are super tanky than they look with high hp,physical resistance, poison and you could summon them with almost full hp out of nowhere. And in my opinion, Soul Grinders are the best unit for Nurgle too. You could get them as early as tier3 town and they fill all what Nurgle army lack: speed, armor piercing, long range with the bonus of poison and tankiness.
Guess you don't really watch a certain other youtuber's videos very often because he makes very clear in his tier lists that a unit is worthy of being doomstacked because of the value, utility, and cost effectiveness (the exact things you mentioned) the key difference being one is around campaign and the other being mp so that isn't even really relevant.
i dident realise the flesh hounds wer good, im gonna need to try them now
...and I just noticed that Flesh Hounds are anatomically correct, while nothing else in the game is. This...raises so many, many questions.
Hey! Any thoughts on making a video like this but on the faction towers? Which has the best for infantry/best for large units/best tier for the money?
I only ask because I think it was nurgle I was facing, their towers decimated my infantry, way more than i thought it was going to. Would be interesting to see the stats on it all.
Blue horrors are no joke. Playing as chaos undivided, wailing on ogre units tied down in melee with 5 or 6 units of focus firing blue horrors is a satisfying experience. Extremely cost effective.
Would be interesting to vote for the best unit in the daemons of chaos roster now lol
Gotta love the Flesh Hounds. For their cost, amazing early game unit
I was just thinking about where the hell you were hiding! xD
Nice analysis. It would be nice to explain us your thoughts process when pick a specific unit and also mention other units you shortlisted in the future
Disagree on Cathay, grand cannon are the mvp, especially in campaign. The dmg output is insane.
I agree with your disagree. The cathay cannons are serious DPS, although their oxen/cannons and crews are made of paper. I always bring them in multiplayer as Cathay, but Cathay is only good on a few maps in my opinion. Also better with a teammate than 1v1 (like dwarf).
What about for Daemon Prince's (and now Belakor's and Warrior of Chaos) faction? Surely it would be of great benefit to know which unit are more valued for those factions with such a wide roster.
The blue horror pick was definitely correct. Even in campaign where I'm only really limited by the number of units I can bring I still struggle to justify replacing a unit of blue horrors. Why would I get anything else? Its a very good missile unit, but its also a really good chaff unit.
If you can afford it, why not pink horrors?
@@OniGanon Pink Horrors have half the models, so against lightly armored units(40 or below), they will usually deal less damage. You have to go all the way to Exalted Pink Horrors to really feel a big difference in damage and staying power, and they are much more expensive and takes longer to recruit.
@@fendelphi Hmm I've been going with pink horrors just for the extra range.
@@OniGanon And that is ok, but even the Pink Horror's 130 range is still outranged by most actual ranged units. You are paying a lot more for overall less damage and survivability and a bit more range.
Exalted Pink Horrors are ok though(if you can afford them).
Pink horrors have four times the ammo, actual range, more health per model and more attack and melee defense.
Terrorcotta warriors mesh well with guns. No LOS issues when they get surrounded.
Khorne dogs are no joke. Crazy good.
I think steel faith overhaul does a good job of allowing you to rebalance the game with caps. But I remember the recruitment mechanic from medieval two, Even if you are raking in money which was quite difficult in that game without cheesing, You could not build a doom stack so easily or so quickly because your certain number of turns and then you had a maximum recruiting pool size, so some of your top tier or elite units you could only have one maybe two sitting ready for recruitment and then it would take like 10 or 20 turns to refresh.
It forced you to be strategic and it also made you have to use things you might not use otherwise out of desperation to bolster numbers.
I like that you said that Teracotta sentinels could be used as a "distraction carnifex".
I suppose quite a few warhammer total war players are sitting there thinking: Wtf even is a carnifex lol.
(Im a 40k player, so i know the term. but still)
I think Minotaurs of Khorne need a special mention. Both the GW and regular variant. In campaign they get regen but these bad boys just melt infantry straight up. I’m sort of surprised at just how good at it they are. They have decent enough mass and speed to extricate themselves if necessary and they actually have armor unlike beqstmen Minotaurs
finally another vid
Boris Ursus war bear stack has so far been unstoppable
Looking forward to integration of all the factions, and subsequent rebalancing. For the Sentinels needs to be more expensive or its power toned down. Pretty sure this thing could outperform hell even solo a Necrosphinx in 1v1 right now, and that is not something that should be happening against a unit made to kill other big targets and at that price cost. Now Cathay as a whole is another story, but you get my point.
I have to agree with this list.
However I do prefer slannesh soul grinders as the only armored unit for them.
Yup the gungan riders was a good choice for Slaanesh.
I lold at the Eminem reference 😂
"They reward good micro and thoughtful engagements better than just about anything" - Basically the Slaanesh faction in a nutshell really.
And honestly, if at present anyone were to ask me about the Top 3 best units in TWW3 right now (as someone who plays single player campaign)... honestly all three will be Ogres. Gorgers, Leadbelchers, and Ironblasters.
Can you do a video on Total Warhammer 3 doomstacks?
That seems more like a LegendOfTotalWar video.
Haven’t beaten a single campaign yet. Down bad.
Aww man Yuri... fell to chaos? I hope I forget that when I start playing this game
Pre-vid guess: Light war sleds, terracotta sentinel, corndogs, pink horrors, nurglings, hellstriders, gorgers
Almost there
Close! Although not sure why Nurglings
@@milkandcookiesTW They can… frontline okish? Don’t really play nurgle. But I forgot the soul grinders!
@@milkandcookiesTW Nurglings are definitely good, I can see an argument being made for them. But the SG is just so bonkers it completely blows every other Nurgle unit out of the water - especially since, in the campaign, you can get them starting at turn 30. Other factions require at least double the turns if not more to get top tier units like that.
Nurglings are the best units because your enemy will stop fighting to appreciate all the detailed fun animations.
10:20 yeah man, i've killed so many evil shit with those little guys, i dont bring full armies of those, just 2 or 3 in every army are more than enough
Can we get a worst unit video next?
Nice models. Is the game still at early access like it’s been for weeks now?
The one thing that sucks about light warsled is that autoresolve seems to massively underestimate their power, causing them to die and this forces you to manually resolve many combats that should be auto-resolvable.
Seems like a few older armies are going to need changing
Gorgers look like they learned some Tiger uppercuts by Sagat.
I still haven't beaten my Nurgle main campaign.
This list needs the Cats of the factions!
I would say Warriors of Khorne for Khorne faction. They carried my game for 70 turns. Turn 84 right now, and I just switched to soul grinders and blood thirsters just for the main army (Skarbrand).
That feel when you just want to play Karl Franz again
I only have been playing Kislev, i want the chariot to be nerfed so i don't feel to guilty. But then i see Ogres players and i feel better instantly.
Think Khorne dogs could get a -5/10 speed debuff and still be great. But hot damn is 95 oppressively with how good they are. 85/90 is still fast as fuq too.
Them being unbreakable really is just so powerful from a unit like that.
3:36 Bear-ly
14:39 Did you time this editing so that the Gorger looks like he's ROFLing when you say "ridiculous?"
Chewed up spit out and bood off stage 😂
The way to fix the demon prince is to simply up his levels by 20-30 so he can actually unlock heaps of shit but not to the point of unbeatable and give him like 5 or so buff traits to his attributes like c'mon the armour he gets just isn't good at all I've tried so many different types and sets it really never changes he looks like he should be able to take 3 units on his own I think he should be skarbrand 2.0 and make skarbrand hate him for worshipping his god as well as all the others he'd see him as a traitor idk how the demon prince released the way he did and I hope they buff him in the near future cause I do really like him
I’ve seen people complain about Slaanesh roster, but a Heartseekers are the most satisfying campaign unit ever
They really need fear reactions on the characters. Some of them just fall over like mannequins.
Mintoaurs with Great Weapons do well vs war sleds
1) I really don't understand how Flamers didn't get top spot for Tzeentch. Horrors are certainly good, but they can't melt something like Ku'gath in two volleys.
2)Ironblasters seem more busted than Gorgers. Gorgers are terrifying, sure, but apparently they aren't so op as to be capped for torunaments like the Ironblasters are.
lots of units on the short list for Tzeentch. Flamers were up there too
1) Flamers are relatively easy to counter in mp (at least i havent had any problems with that so far).
2) I think the only reason gorgers are considered more op is the fact that you can make enemy ironblasters almost completely useless with certain rosers.
Gorgers are capped at 2 in a lot of tourneys, most notably Turin's, unless thats changed.
It's more about the versatility and how much they carry above their weight class (tier and cost) rather than being OP in certain situations.
Flamers deal damage, thats their role. Horrors do everything, and they do everything pretty darn well. A single blue horror volley can waver most unarmored single entities, and do respectable damage to everything else as well. They also can capture, are surprisingly tanky, and can melee fairly well for their price point. Its really hard for them to not be useful. Flamers however can get charged by a 600 cost hellstrider and evaporate. Flamers are still great, but horrors have so much versatility.
Also gorgers are capped in Turin's tournaments, but I agree that the ironblaster is more broken, as gorgers again are vulnerable to cheap hellstrider cav, magic, and missiles, meanwhile the ironblaster can be oppressive to nearly any unit on the map, all three victory points, and takes an extremely large skill gap to actually kill. No roster has the tools to counter them (aside from Cathay great cannons), especially if the ogre player micro's them and keeps a frontline.
For campaign I'd think Nurglings are better due to being by FAR the cheapest unit and most accessible unit, while still being effective on the Battlefield (especially when they get regeneration)
Maybe in Kugath's army, as he buffs them a lot. But for other armies, they are simply the cheapest version of the basic Nurgle tactic. They have much less damage output and staying power compared to pretty much all other units on their roster.
flesh hounds with the anti large they can gain in the campaign make them truly disgusting
Bro, where are the timecodes? I want to be able to quickly go to each faction in the video. Can you pls add them?
I wonder how many of these will get a nerf in the future. Gorgers and Fleshhounds (or khorne in general) probably. Hope the stinky boys will get a little push.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts about which units might be hit with the nerfhammer or get a booster shot.
PS: My favorite unit so far is the Ogre Hunter on a Stonehorn... though if we don't count heroes/lords it's the Leadbelchers.
Kislev chariots will have the stats reduced a little and have less ammo, they can shoot almost nonstop the full game.
@@RaikoH6644 They need to take away the M249s and give them actual muskets.
Knock em out the pole Kislev drive by!
I don’t think I’ve used blue horrors yet lol
I like me them good great doom knights of tzeetchy weentchy
I wonder if there will be a video for weakest units in each faction because im finding Streltsi surprisingly poor.
Poor damage? Or are they having trouble shooting at all, I know there’s some annoying line of sight issues and slow turning at the moment.
@@liamcullen3035 possibly i am just using them wrong but i find them quite squishy in melee. Ormaybe my expectationso f them were too high because you know...axe-gun!
@@andrewstephen2359 I don't see why you'd be shocked about them. The axe-gun is completely backwards!
@@Aredel haha yeah but they look really cool and by rights that should make them tougher 😆
@@andrewstephen2359 ngl they look kind of silly when you compare them to actual gun-axes.
For kislev my opinion the strongest unit their patriarch bear rider with healing ability.... great doom stack add one two wizard to wipe out the blobs... best doom stack in my opinion
very good for sure! but no Heroes or Lords for this list
@@milkandcookiesTW this game is kinda broken in the stat department... for kislev i just use patriarchs an cheap bowmen
Even if heroes and lords were allowed, none of them have M249s mounted on sleds.
The Flesh Hound of Khorne are good but don't belittle the Chaos Furies. The may die fast but if you let them attack troops from behind, they rack up kills fast. And I like to use them when i defend a settlement or even better a city, to fly over the wall and attack the enemy lord. Most troops will be in the siege towers, so not much there to defend the lord. Turned a lot fo unwinable battles for me around.
Furies are very good for all 4 Chaos Gods yeah
Furies are usually underrated in campaign because very few people enjoy using units that are used just to distract, do damage, and die. It's the same with Fell Bats, Harpies, and Carrion.
Furies are pretty good, but hounds do so much more damage for Khorne and survive so much longer. I don't see much reason to bring them over the Khorne Dogs unless you're actively avoiding the doggos.
You said in your blue horror section that tzeentch had pendulum. Since when? I though tzeentch only got 3 lores, himself, fire, metal.
Kairos has Pendulum
Yep, Kairos can unlock pendulum in campaign, and he has it by default in multiplayer.
@@milkandcookiesTW i got fragment of glu mixed up with shish.
Trinston was here. .
Really good list. I think that only 2 races that can have arguments for other unita are the ones you have listed.
And on the list itself I would have changed just 1 of them. I would give Forsaken ot Tzech the crown.
Amazingly fast infantry with great damaga output and charge.
You will not burst them like you will any other glass cannon infantry in the game because of the barier.
You will not destroy them with magic with their 40% magic res.
And most importantly. They are an infantry with magic attacks and no phisical res in the game where there is a lot of magical attack phisical res units so they just trade well with basically all deamons
Yeah, I feel like the Tzeentch Forsaken are probably the best of the Forsaken by far.
Tzeentch short list was Blue Horrors, Flamers, and Forsaken. there are plenty of good arguments to be made for Tzeentch Forsaken yeah
@@milkandcookiesTW yea, all of those are great.
It's quite funny how Forsaken have gone from garbage in WH1 and WH2, to really strong for Nurgle and especially Tzeentch.
Why do blue horrors have missiles? Seems like they should be a melee unit in every way, or have 1-2 ammo. With that unit count, and protoss shields, they aren't fair
Because they are spellcasters in game that fill a specific ranged damage casting niche. This is hard to do in game so they become ranged
@@mochristie5419 sometimes, lore and tabletop should be set aside in favor of functionality. I always thought they had to come from a Pink horror that dies and two of them were the result. But they were essentially melee infantry when they appeared in tabletop. And the only spellcaster blue horrors I know of are the two who travel around looking for the shards of tzeench. The rest are, situational in their appearances.
@@mochristie5419 I'm pretty sure they have a ranged attack on the tabletop as well
I use terracotta sentinels to break ranged formations
Where are all the other races in Warhammer 2
Must say I am now more interested to play wh3 again. Went back to 2 with sfo for a while after noticing that bugfest, and the ease how you start. It's so said when the hardest enemy are towers.
Actually terracotta aren't anywere close to the best cathay unit in campaign because they simply aren't needed
I would say the rocket cart or the sky junk is the best. Artillery in this game is just so OP.
@@thomasfrender4592 fire rain, great canons and the 2 celestial units I'd say. Sky junks are good too though. Terracottas are an insane unit, but until cathay has real healing they don't really serve a purpose in their roster (at least in campaign). Maybe having 1 or 2 could be fine
How are Earthblood and Regrowth not "real healing"? They dont need healing to be good anyway, they have 13,000 hp and 100 armor
@@milkandcookiesTW only Miao Ying can do that and she is way better off with a ranged heavy army for cost efficiency.
I'm talking purely campaign... I absolutely agree with you that terracottas are their best unit in mp by quite a large margin. I just don't think they are anywhere near as essential in campaign (especially when you can get greater mileage compared to cost out of dragon guard and artillery). They might be their strongest unit in campaign, but not their best if that makes any sense.
Let's hope that eltharion can't capture tzeentch characters and mirror their barriers on mistwalkers
For Cathay i prefer actually Fire Rain Rocket over the terracota sentinal. yes it good but i do think cathay struggles more vs elite infantry more then large or monters. their ranged deals well with that and the Fire Rain Rocket deals great damage and clears infantry like no tomorrow. the new mp mode actually makes artillery beter then regular battles given that factions tht wield artillery tends to be rushed but with also being able to capture points makes it a different story and easier to defend
I think the point is, that the Sentinel provides you with a unique and important role, that you do not get from any other unit. Fire Rain Rocket is good, but you could substitute it with a different artillery piece or have magic cover the AoE component of your armies.
The Sentinel is Unbreakable and will add constant pressure and line-holding where ever it is. It is hard to disrupt or negate it's effect on the battlefield, unlike most other Cathay units(which relies on combined arms a lot), and can deal with every kind of opponent to a satisfying degree.
For instance, you can send in the Sentinels early, and the use your artillery to destroy the blobs that form around them. The sentinels will take a bit of damage, but will never stop fighting, and they have enough Mass and Speed to break out of infantry, if you need them elsewhere.
Huh, I never noticed the Khorne dogs had sculpted penile sheaths on their models til now, that aint something you usually see 3D Artists bother with!
They also put a lot of effort into the butthole of the stone horns
I completely agree with the Blue Horrors as your choice! Totally overperformers.
Gorgers should have rampage
Khorne Dogs
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Where does all these HP come from? My units have half the amount shown in video! Is this beta footage or what?
warhammer 3 is balanced around Ultra unit size. You are likely playing on a smaller unit size, like Medium or Large
Why dont sentinels get wrecked by arrers???
I have to say it feels kinda treasonous that none of the greater daemons made it to the top spot. Not saying they deserve it as is, but I mean, come on. The champions of the chaos gods, and not one is the best unit in it's respective roster.
Also, side note, does anyone else think it's weird that Chaos Warriors of Khorne, elite warriors, blessed with longevity and inhuman strength by the Blood God himself, armed and armoured in cursed and ensorcelled metal, lose in a stand up fight against Tzar Guard? Who, unless I'm missing some lore there, are regular-ass humans, with regular human equipment. I'm not the only one who thinks that feels off, right?
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Tsar guard are literally the elite personal bodyguards of the Tzars, so it makes sense to me that they are not only skilled enough, but also particularly trained to fight chaos warriors
Bloodthirsters are extremely good, just not as versatile as flesh hounds. GUOs suck ass, especially in campaign and land battles. Keepers of Secrets are simply not as good as Slaaneshi Soul Grinders; the extra spellcasting is garbage since it's full cost. Lords of Change suck for similar reasons to KoS, but are a bit better in campaign.
This is a field battle setting. Greater daemons are NOT designed to be the best at field battles. Thats like expecting a navy seal to be a good frontline soldier (they are def better than average,) which is a very specific role to fill. Greater daemons are the greatest in many other ways besides field battles.
@@mr.joesterr5359 Even in sieges, the only ones who are actually useful are the Bloodthirsters. The rest just die too quickly to missile fire to be effective. Even then, you'd probably get more worth out of the Khorne Dogs since the AI doesn't prioritize them as much.
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Way, way too many bears for Kislev.