THE PESTILENT HOST - Plague Toad Power and Nurgle Buffs vs. Chaos Dwarfs - Total War Warhammer 3

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  • Nurgle has been buffed substantially in the Forge of the Chaos Dwarfs DLC patch, so let's show off Pox Riders, Rot Flies, and Plague Toads in this Nurgle vs. Chaos Dwarfs matchup on Total War Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires. How good are the Nurgle buffs, and are they enough to take on the power of a mighty Daemonsmith Sorcerer and the Daemon's Tongue Flamethrower Tank?
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  • @spikegarzilla586
    @spikegarzilla586 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Dude, you are hands down my favorite TW: WH TH-camr and I always get a lil shock of excitement when I see you've posted a new video. Keep up the awesome work Indy! We love you man.

  • @cadabanban5382
    @cadabanban5382 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From a french pov, you nailed that "ménage a trois" man. Well done Monsieur and good vid as always.

  • @howitzer551
    @howitzer551 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I am about 100 turns into a hard Drazhoath Immortal Empires Campaign and to be honest the thing I love the most so far is the lack of growth requirements. Once you get set up balance your raw materials and armaments, as long as you have labor you can expand rapidly. None of this having to babysit a region unit its up and running, the Dawi-Zharr train has no brakes.

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah you can build them really tall as well. i like having a small empire but really powerful armies and settlements

  • @sebasteanjanzen1210
    @sebasteanjanzen1210 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Recently got back into warhammer 2 after rage quitting a dark elf campaign a few years back. Mainly due to your videos and I've been loving it. Thanks for lighting the flame for my love for this series.

  • @pjadtron9415
    @pjadtron9415 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Tbh the caster carried Felkon's entire army, everything else got shat on because it was low tier fodder. You played that well, but yeah that spell single handedly won him that game which was stupid.

    • @JordanR
      @JordanR ปีที่แล้ว +5

      100%

    • @Kayosiv
      @Kayosiv ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What I don't understand is why the heroes get to ride the Bale Taurus. That's the equivalent of a high elf noble being able to ride a dragon. It is their premier monster; it should be lord only.

    • @Remixersoloman
      @Remixersoloman ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@Aaron Dona the regular Taurus would be fine, would even still have him feel like a squishy sorcerer because the regular version drops so fast if you don't babysit it. Having an extremely powerful caster with great melee capabilities on top of a lord like zhatan that can tank multiple single entities for a good amount of time is way too much.

    • @none-of-your-busi-ness
      @none-of-your-busi-ness ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Kayosiv its the equivalent of the high elf caster hero being able to ride a dragon..... which they can.

    • @Kayosiv
      @Kayosiv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@none-of-your-busi-ness The dragon mage rides the sun dragon, ie the small one. If the sorcerer prophet hero could ride a great Taurus or even a Lamasu I would get it, but the bale taurus is the star dragon of the chaos dwarf army. The hero has no business riding one.

  • @ComradeKeeper
    @ComradeKeeper ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great battle, thanks for the video. Definitely think flames of azgorh needs a longer casting time to make it actually dodgeable.

  • @meowmeow9326
    @meowmeow9326 ปีที่แล้ว

    i enjoy the extra cinematic value you bring to the replay by going back for a second look at things with good angles and slow mo

  • @picklethesaurus4930
    @picklethesaurus4930 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am I only one that completely forgot that Zhatan even existed, and that the sorcerer isn't the Lord?

  • @SimoLInk1698
    @SimoLInk1698 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Happy to see Felkon again on your channel.

  • @handleonafridge6828
    @handleonafridge6828 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    They definitely need to either increase the windup time or decrease the damage to single entities on flames of azgorh.

    • @Insandom
      @Insandom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It costs high winds and the damage it does to single entities is mainly from the center circle.

    • @fidelcashflow4940
      @fidelcashflow4940 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most people don't even use it in multiplayer, people calling for nerfs clearly don't understand the actual applications of spells like that one, no single entity is just going to stand there nice and still for you to overcast a flames of azgorh, even if they did, that's almost like all their winds of magic.

  • @Zahlari
    @Zahlari ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Hope you are having a wonderful time with them thus far" you betcha buddy, been burning drazoath in dragon fire every single campaign, thank you for always putting out great battle videos

  • @thomasgregg7527
    @thomasgregg7527 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember that music. Long battles and empire building. Viking fights on England where fun. I hope medieval 3 will b our next game. As big as warhammer 3 I hope.

  • @tomrulz444
    @tomrulz444 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just woke up hungover. This is exactly what I needed

  • @AverySadBear
    @AverySadBear ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As soon as nurgle get some DLC they are going to be nuts.

  • @dembro27
    @dembro27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ain't no way they pull this off...
    WHAAAAT?

  • @MrPenguin4538
    @MrPenguin4538 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Not a fan of chaos factions, but always happy for something new to fight. Looking forward to the road map and some hints. Praying we finally get a dlc for dawi and vc soon

  • @JohnMatayas
    @JohnMatayas ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that was super mega close

  • @joshmilner4864
    @joshmilner4864 ปีที่แล้ว

    Demon Smith has been my favorite unit in my campaigns for sure. They have everything. That spell might be little op or doing things it shouldn't but I do love it.

  • @bhomebhome2543
    @bhomebhome2543 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thumbnail looks like three Nurgle themes energy drinks.

  • @KamikazeCommie501
    @KamikazeCommie501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Build a Nurgle Marauder a fire, he'll be warm for the night, but SET a Nurgle Marauder afire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
    Lmao great line

  • @greggod3646
    @greggod3646 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What an epic ending. Great game!

    • @monged4life442
      @monged4life442 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd call it an anticlimax myself, that spell has no business being as good as it is, but good game regardless

  • @FaustLiber
    @FaustLiber ปีที่แล้ว

    what are you graphic settings? and are you using a retexture or something bc ur game looks great

  • @Son_of_Mandalore
    @Son_of_Mandalore ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit! What an ending. That game was awesome

  • @juliomota1950
    @juliomota1950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Around the 7:00 mark the Chorf player completely forgets about Zhatan lol. he noticed around 9:00 and moves him.

  • @fidelcashflow4940
    @fidelcashflow4940 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love seeing nurgle, cant help but think death's head plague drones may have been the answer agaisnt the caster, chosen are cool but do seem very risky in the chorf match up haha

  • @colossusslayer1234
    @colossusslayer1234 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    That volcano spell strikes me as insanely overpowered, it seems way too good at killing literally anything. Especially at the end, a big aoe nuke has no business doing that to single entities as well, nevermind that super fast wind up as well.

    • @Laskofil
      @Laskofil ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes I agree, milkandcookiesTW also did a video on it recently, if you wanna watch it.

    • @Nota-Skaven
      @Nota-Skaven ปีที่แล้ว +55

      AoE spells are countered by low model count units, that's like TWW fundamentals, so seeing one obliterate Nurgle heroes without any chance to escape to the point of winning the match is just, bruh what?

    • @JordanR
      @JordanR ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah honestly it's a little ridiculous. It had no business going live in that state

    • @monged4life442
      @monged4life442 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Agree, there is no way it should be anti single entity AND delete infantry units. Especially with that many casts in a game... just nuts.

    • @1998topornik
      @1998topornik ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, it is very overpowered spell

  • @duckheadbob
    @duckheadbob ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While thematic to the game - from what I've read of the novels in total war, those marked by nurgle are rarely slowed by it.
    The novella Plague Daemon even had a daemon of nurgle posing as a hot rich woman, who spreads disease in the coin she gives out to men who help her.
    So it's not really breaking with lore and it helps them in the meta

  • @Prophetofthe8thLegion
    @Prophetofthe8thLegion ปีที่แล้ว

    This got some Tamurkhan vibes

  • @fistimusmaximus6576
    @fistimusmaximus6576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That spells damage even without overcast..

  • @jadebrunner8699
    @jadebrunner8699 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s Tamurkhan, now we just need the Toad dragon

  • @siddharthsingh3996
    @siddharthsingh3996 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When do we see a campaign playthrough from you ?

    • @BattleBro77
      @BattleBro77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pay him a substantial amount of money and he will do it

    • @looming_
      @looming_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Down for coop campaign?

    • @fedyx1544
      @fedyx1544 ปีที่แล้ว

      never

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  ปีที่แล้ว

      full playthroughs are unfortunately just not good for sustained viewership, most people drop off after the first episode. but we'll try and work in some one off campaign videos on occasion

    • @siddharthsingh3996
      @siddharthsingh3996 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milkandcookiesTW 🙏

  • @RoccaFelipe
    @RoccaFelipe ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not RotFlys with DeathHeads to blast artillery? Are they too expensive still?

    • @patrickleonard4187
      @patrickleonard4187 ปีที่แล้ว

      When they just sit there and wait to throw another volley, they are extremely vulnerable to CD missile units, which do nasty damage. I like your thought though since CD arty are mostly SEM's with armour and mobility.

  • @TalosLordOfNight
    @TalosLordOfNight ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People like to hate in plague toads but I’ve always thought they are hard to deal with for range heavy factions. They send your infantry models flying everywhere so they can’t regain formation and start shooting

  • @synthelione3714
    @synthelione3714 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was trying too hard to use the ranged poke. But tbh it's really a ranged tickle, and might have been way better to cycle charge instead.

  • @Type_3_Screamer
    @Type_3_Screamer ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving chaos dwarfs atm but had a battle that i couldn't explain. Fought against umgrim (gobbo archers, full chaos dwarf line, 2 hellconnons and a magma cannon) and my army seemingly just melted.
    He only 3 units of slayers, lots of miners and a couple cannons yet none of my infantry lasted longer than a minute in combat. It was so weird and hadn't happened before that point. I was so confused haha

    • @zestybeelzebub
      @zestybeelzebub ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could be that the miners had blasting charges and threw it into melee. Use your goblins/orcs to tank the brunt and make sure the blasting charges are thrown 2 times before moving your chorfs in. There have been times where the blasting charges and projectile trail don't render for me.

    • @Type_3_Screamer
      @Type_3_Screamer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zestybeelzebub possible though i think they were regular miners.

  • @alexsitaras6508
    @alexsitaras6508 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's good to see a spell that's actually good against single entities, but that is a very fast cast time.

  • @753test
    @753test ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Zhatan broken? I send him against a 1500 cost regular dwarf lord and he looses even when on one of his mounts

    • @fidelcashflow4940
      @fidelcashflow4940 ปีที่แล้ว

      he's a pretty piss poor fighter for what he's supposed to be

  • @odmloupi
    @odmloupi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    flies still look pretty damn sad to me

  • @danebrooks9184
    @danebrooks9184 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok can we see a blood dragon vampire lord against one of the flying lords from chaos dwarfs or do I have to wait to try it in the game lol 😂🎉🎉

  • @PeterButchens
    @PeterButchens ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how it would have played out, if the chaos dwarves brought more dwarf units like warriors or blunderbuss' instead of the large amount of chaff.

  • @Juanchodh
    @Juanchodh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was very close! What a great battle.
    I don't know why CA took off the outcome of the battle on the final screen. What a dumb oversight.

  • @almostontimehero5415
    @almostontimehero5415 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nurgle buffs? I didn't see a Patch Notes video breakdown on the play list.

  • @myersmayhem2023
    @myersmayhem2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand how chorfs won that, their entire line had more or less broken like 5mins into the video crazy

  • @ARandomNerd88
    @ARandomNerd88 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the spell is fine as is. It is very punishing, but requires high skill to play with. That said, a slight tweaking isn't a terrible idea.

  • @gbogdan3528
    @gbogdan3528 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Exalted Champions of Nurgle are a bit broken. It might be my PTSD from fighting the fecundites as The Empire in campaign, but I still think something is wrong there.

    • @crassiewassie8354
      @crassiewassie8354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fecundites are always a pain to fight lol

  • @palsprinting
    @palsprinting ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems that choas dwarves seem to be really weak other then the one gire spell

    • @tincano-beans2114
      @tincano-beans2114 ปีที่แล้ว

      Given freedom, the blunderbuss will wreck shop. Magma cannons are also great.

  • @alirashid3562
    @alirashid3562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heah that flames need to be nerfed for sure

  • @maciejtedeque8096
    @maciejtedeque8096 ปีที่แล้ว

    " ork labourer"

  • @XxLiveMusicxX
    @XxLiveMusicxX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why did he go all cheap crap units for chaos dwarves

    • @monged4life442
      @monged4life442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe he was showcasing the broken volcano spell

  • @saff1kill
    @saff1kill ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They have to nerf the volcano
    How can it kill entire units of Infantry and single entities alike? Broken lol

  • @Xajmai
    @Xajmai ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching mp but hates how it systematically removes anything and everything unique in regards to gameplay mechanics for sp... Now nurgle are just like all other cw when it comes to speed being the latest change

  • @jordanmanley9172
    @jordanmanley9172 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ehh, Flames of Azgorh seems a we bit overpowered. I'm fine with it being strong against SE and masses units, but only 5 seconds to cast? That'll definitely get nerfed

  • @PainfullySubjective
    @PainfullySubjective ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool cinematic overview of the fight but my god, the orders issued to these units are terrible and the overall strategy is lackluster.

  • @theStamax
    @theStamax ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Calling it right now, Flames of Azgaroth (or whatever it's called) will get banned in competitive multiplayer until it's fixed. The shotgunning in the middle makes it way too good at killing single entities for a spell with that much aoe potential.

    • @sultanofswag8901
      @sultanofswag8901 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They've never banned any spells in comp to my knowledge. In fact I can't remember them banning much of anything. If the stupidly OP launch Pit of Shades is fine I don't see what's wrong with this. It's seems like a pretty balanced spell

    • @theStamax
      @theStamax ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sultanofswag8901 they've banned broken stuff before (twwh 2 beastman charriots come to mind rn).
      This is way worse than pit. It's like pit with slightly worse aoe that also happens to delete single entities standing near the centre. It deals over 4k dmg to SEMs (somewhat depending on hitbox) ... That makes in the strongest single target spell in the game by miles. All while still doing great aoe.
      It's either bugged or poorly thought out (either of which i find equally likely). In either case they should either nerf the proj dmg massively, remove shotgunning or heavily increase its cost.

    • @sultanofswag8901
      @sultanofswag8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theStamax it's damn near impossible to actually nuke a single entity with it and so easy to dodge if they use it that way. While yeah the damage it can do is nutty it takes a severe lapse in micro for a SE to get by it, and it is the most expensive spell in the lore of Hashut.

    • @theStamax
      @theStamax ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sultanofswag8901 easy to dodge? 5 seconds is barely anything in twwh. Hell, SEMs sometimes take 3 seconds or so to just orient themselves properly to move. Add to that a lucky stagger and you could literally give the order to move within half a second of the spell being cast and still being hit by the majority of it.
      Not to say that dodging isn't possible to some extent and should be taken into account. I'd rather argue that it's still too powerful taking that into account. Take someone like durthu for example. Durthu isn't fast enough to get out even if you react almost immediately. Of course it varies on other SEMs. But you won't always focus on that,so more often than not it'll hit.
      Either way the spell doesn't look like it should deal that much damage to SEMs, which is a failure in and of itself (just to provide an additional argument). It's clearly a big aoe volcano.

    • @JordanR
      @JordanR ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@theStamax don't forget the net to keep characters in it. Guy above you is trolling tbh

  • @JamesBond-ux1it
    @JamesBond-ux1it ปีที่แล้ว +4

    chorfs win yay. HASHUT HASHUT HASHUT!

  • @seriouswall1173
    @seriouswall1173 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For people saying they need to nerf volcano spell. Yeah they need to for multiplayer. Don't touch it for single player. After all, that's what total war mostly is.

  • @Campaigner82
    @Campaigner82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, you only show landbattles?

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i play both. more recently ive been focusing on land. but ill play some dom games soon

  • @PsychoticDyldo
    @PsychoticDyldo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a stupidly overpowered spell

  • @raptorjesues1445
    @raptorjesues1445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that spell aint right

  • @Vietnam_Chr0nicles
    @Vietnam_Chr0nicles ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This DLC is way overpriced. I refused to pay 1/3 the games price for a dlc...

    • @khelgarironfist3301
      @khelgarironfist3301 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      1/3? It's 1/2 for me lol

    • @bruuuuuuuuhhhh
      @bruuuuuuuuhhhh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is your opinions you have a right to have. I agree it is overpriced, but I bought it anyway because I'm a sucker

    • @Vietnam_Chr0nicles
      @Vietnam_Chr0nicles ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khelgarironfist3301 I have bought every DLC and even made my TH-cam for casting games and being a druchii teacher but I wont support CA with this greed.

    • @qwertzu1195
      @qwertzu1195 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thx for sharing

    • @Vietnam_Chr0nicles
      @Vietnam_Chr0nicles ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qwertzu1195 Tough love CA needs and to be called out for this greed.

  • @rubenvt
    @rubenvt ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job, you lost every startegic fight but it does not matter because you have bs spells that nuke anything and anyone. Can't wait for medieval 3 to come out so all this bs is out of the game

  • @specimenlarry6068
    @specimenlarry6068 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was lame.

  • @jeanmmm8171
    @jeanmmm8171 ปีที่แล้ว

    the CD are OP. they are a most range army BUT they have very powerful melee units too. the bull centaurs are very OP. the immortals can defeat Khorne exalted bloodletters and Khorne relies in melee and no in ranged units. it makes no any sense!!!!!
    CA must nerf a lot of the CD soon.