That Clough Revie Spat 1974 Part 2
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- The day Cloughie got the sack at Leeds United he went on Yorkshire TV's Calender programme to be interviewed by future MP Austin Mitchell - and sat next to previous Leeds boss, current England manager and nemesis Don Revie....what followed was TV gold...
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Cloughie is incredibly honest and supremely intelligent. Revie was class but he got baited into personalising the argument. Two greats, nevertheless.
I wanted to do something you hadn't done.
Brilliant
"Disciplary charts, you topped that!" No answer to that!
And actually he won the league better than Revie's side in 1977-1978, only losing 3 games and winning 25. I'm not english but I've seen tapes of that Nottingham Forest team and it was amazing. Besides that I love the honesty in Brian, you can tell that immediately...
"i do believe in fairies."
brilliant.
Also Don ,the disciplinary chart!🤣🤣...classic clough . Legend . He was prophetic in this ,as he went on to win European Cup twice . He ended up winning alot more than Revie!. The greatest English manager ever
Why does everyone hate on revie
Bloke did nothing wrong.
Watching too many overdramatised movies
@@tadhglattimore2439 I recognize Revie's achievements even though I'm a long life Cloughie fan. They were both great managers in their own right. Cloughie was about player discipline, smooth passing of the ball to feet and crosses into the box. Whereas, Revie preferred physical in your face football, wearing teams down with physical pressure and once they broke the opposition's confidence, then they would start playing build up football and feeding balls to their forwards. Revie's Leeds was capable of winning the European Cup. In those days, there were a lot of corrupt officials and they found themselves on the receiving end of dodgy decisions.
Ironically when he won the league with Forest he won it losing...... 3 games!
He was done before he signed...was all about Don's Ego! Great history though classic...
Fascinating.
West Ham won one of the ‘four’ and I was there to see it, a 3-1 win in the sunshine at the Boleyn.
Peter Taylor indeed had a brilliant eye for a player but without him and without any money in the pot, Clough kept Forest up for another eleven years. Those years included three top-three league finishes (before 1993 they were never out of the top ten), two League Cup wins, an FA Cup final, and getting cheated out of a UEFA Cup final appearance (1984). Even if he had done nothing else previously, Clough would still be remembered as a top manager.
Two great managers.
Both really straight. Austin was trying his best to create a row.
True...this was just a changing of the guard
Now that was interesting
Lot of people don’t know this; Forrest won 2 European cups and finished runners up in a 3rd final. Years later it was found that the ref had been bribed in that final, So cloughs record would have been even more impressive!!
What third final are you on about?
forest lost in round of 32 in the european cup that season, it was Leeds that was bribed apparently in the 75 final
They lost a UEFA Cup semifinal against Anderlecht, and that was proved to be a game where the referee was bribed. Derby also lost a semifinal against Juventus in dubious circumstances. Again, Juventus were found to have bribed the German referee who died in a car crash shortly after.
There was a feeling in the English game at the time that European clubs and officials were agains our sides winning mainly for many reasons.
It's a microcosm of the European Union. @@marcnikolai
I genuinely believe if the board backed clough and sacked the players leeds would have won euro cups like forest
Whatever you may think of the players, they were world class players. If most were sold then it would take time for a team good enough to win the European Cup by which time the Leeds board wouldn’t have accepted that.
@@romyarmada2521 ageing squad as was proved after Clough left .not good enough
@@barnfieldfishing
You are talking rubbish.
Should be preserved as a historical gem - before everything went tits up in this country
I think Brian has had few drams before this by look of him .
Teetotal brian never utb.
Think you'll find he was high on champagne and a massive cheque from Leeds
I believe Don Revie inspired the Leeds players to rebel against cloughie.
Revie wanted Johnny Giles to take over.
He wanted his own way.
He wanted to keep the system going - as Liverpool did from Shankly - with Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish. The directors proceeded to ruin in four years what he'd created in 13. If they would have listened to his advice - it might have been different.
@@stephenoldfield7124 or alternatively he wanted his match fixing to stay under wraps
Based on what?
A movie
Bit like Les Dawson that fellow
They said there was needle between Willie Thorne and John virgo never knew why though
Clough is a legend
He was not.
@@hossainshaikhani1297 He was. He won back to back European cups (whats now Champions league). He got his team promted to division 1 (whats now Premier league) and then won the damn league the next.
Not many have done that!
Forests 4 League cup wins were all his work.
Clough was a legend.
That Leeds Utd. team went all the way to the European Cup Final - and were then robbed by a corrupt referee.
Dirty fuckers, nonetheless an unbelievable feat
Leeds were also robbed in the '72 Cup Winers Cup Final, where the ref was later found to have been bribed.
@@harrywix ye that was the 1975 European Cup final, leeds scored 2 perfectly good goals in it, that's why today leeds chant, we are the champions, champions of Europe.
@@adamdennison80 In 75 Clarke was cut down in the penalty area: no penalty given. Lorimer scored a fine goal which was disallowed. Leeds played some wonderful football that evening. The 1973 Cup winner final was even worse. It was later found the ref had been bribed. Leeds should have been awarded the trophy.The Revie team won a lot of trophies but deserved even more. Celtic, Ajax and then Leeds were for several years the best teams in Europe.
Clough destroyed him.
I love the one where he says if there were a disagreement they'd talk for twenty minutes and at the end of the conversation they'd come to the decision Brian was right. He was pure class. There will never be another like him. I was born in the 90s and didn't have the chance to see his huge achievements.
Blimey. Get over yourself muppet, Sir Brian is talking to Sir Don.
Got to admit Clough got the better of the DON that night.From an a die hard Leeds fan
Don Revie still the best .
@@ga-ow7yf how many European cups did revie win none clough different class
Not much needle there eh
I've not watched the whole of this through before. The common narrative (from people who've probably only seen quotes from it) is that Clough destroys Revie and makes him look stupid but trying to look at it completley objectivley I don't see that. They are rivals that don't like each other but there is some respect there. Clough doesn't massively go in on Revie for his side being dirty as much as you might think. He also respects that Revie had a tough desicion to make whether he stayed at Leeds and tried to win the European Cup or take the job. I think those who say "Clough owns Revie" or whatever are probably doing so with the hindsight of Clough winning European Cups and Revie failing with (and then supposedley betraying) England. I'm a Leeds fan so will obviously defend Revie of course. There's no doubting Clough's achievements at Forest were probably the greatest of any English manager and that's fair enough.
Clough stood no chance in that job! The Revie super natural spirit was hovering over the next boss. Me too Leeds fan. Jimmy Armfield dragged us out of the ego of The Don.
Revie was all ego and a club bully in his playing days especially at man city
Don who?
Brian’s ego by a mile…sadly!
Well never know what might have been….
Nobody does it like reviews lol revie was a guy that didn't understand that people are better than him 🤣 😂
Revie really embarrassed himself in this interview....since this interview it all came out that he was advising Giles in the background.
Yes he did so stubborn and wrong cudnt lace clough boots
Don't get character like these now
Dons the man, Brian not so much!
Clough won this hands down then went on to prove he was best manager in late 70s....i didnt like him bút at Forest 78 79 80....Best club in world ...With Taylor