Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! PB Swiss: amzn.to/3cuYSni Wera: amzn.to/3R4Dp3D GearWrench: amzn.to/3CG8LcD Williams: amzn.to/3CJ49T6 Irwin: amzn.to/3QafhLW Megapro: amzn.to/3Q6zVMK Milwaukee: amzn.to/3KwYTnf Klein Tools: amzn.to/3B0t1UQ Husky: amzn.to/3e8b3XQ (no longer available) Lenox: amzn.to/3pSRTYy SATA: amzn.to/3CG8hmP Black+Decker: amzn.to/3pWhPSZ LTT: www.lttstore.com/products/scr... Snap On: Available at the Snap On Website/Store
My heart was pounding the entire time I was watching, but I'm so glad we submitted to be included in this round-up. Seeing the results from an independent source hits so different and I'm incredibly proud of our team. Also, massive props to Todd for changing the game when it comes to objective tool reviews. I'm sure this won't be our last crossover episode ;) - LS
Your screwdriver is legit, it's half the price of the most premium product on display but performs extremely similarly, I'm thoroughly impressed that you guys were able to take the Megapro and actually improve on it this much
Project Farm taught me a thing: The cheapest things aren't worth the trouble, and the most expensive aren't worth the money. The mid-tier you find good tools that don't rip your wallet.
@@jpikl1284 well he lives here in the states and guess what costs of goods are different. not just from conversion rate also due to shipping and handling and then the government has to tax everything. so price will change
i cant express the immeasurable value this channel alone CONTRIBUTES TO THE EFFICIENCY OF MY TIME, THE PRESERVATION OF MY MONEY, AND THE CONFIDENCE THAT I"VE GOT THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB.
This has saved me so much time and money. In the past you would just buy some harborfreight and be ok and moderately happy. Then their tool quality took a dive a long time ago. But you could survive. The day a cheap set of screwdrivers failed on the first use. Demanded a project farm amazing reviewer to sort through the bologna. Because you can't just buy the average tool at lowes/homedepot. That leads to failure more often too. I love my cle-line drill bits, irwin dikes and channel lock needlenose. And knowing the right bits to buy now. Milwaukee ones are trash and he proved it, but I knew it when I bought some before PF review. They break and wear out fast.
First time watching the channel, just wanna say I’m super impressed at how efficiently and cleanly all of the information is presented. You waste very little time with fluff and nonsense, and just get right into the information that matters. Very well done
PB Swiss feels like the screwdriver you use in industrial applications. Where losing a single bit during maintenance can be disastrous, so you need that magnetic pull!
yeah for example on aircraft engines. It happened, mechanic forgot screwdriver bit on engine cowling and engine ingest bit during high speed take off run. It failed and was badly damaged.
As I've said many times before what makes these tests really great is how thorough & well thought out the testing regime is. I wish you continued success and look forward to watching many, many more tests!
@@ProjectFarm Thank YOU for consistently doing these tests so thoroughly!!! I, and I hope others too, bought many a tool or other product based not only on your reviews and testing, but also by considering the factors that you test for! Then, when you test one of those that I picked based on your testing factors, which happens pretty often, it turns out to be a top performer. You're doing a valuable service, friend, we all appreciate it very much! 😀👍
I love how simple a solution he comes up with for the tests. For 'just a screwdriver' he tested way more features than I was expecting. Also destroying them is a bonus too. I've bought a few tools based on his reviews, and its almost never the best one, but always the best for the need or price.
@@manicdan481 Best, unfortunately is a relative term and is often simply just a matter of what your need is more then if it works for everyone. I totally agree with that PF goes the extra mile in his test even to the point of breaking the product - especially because he doesn't except sponsors and pays for everything he test 100% out of pocket.
Two takeaways from this: LTT's driver is actually really good and stands up to task, especially for tech work and I'm surprised at how much it matched Linus's hype. The second takeaway is that Megapro is an amazing value for money. Like an insane amount of performance for relatively little money.
The Megapro is my favorite ratcheting screwdriver by miles...however he should've used the automotive one. Different shaft length and the bit storage is setup for the regular short bits.
Most tool companies are trying to sell you an entire line of tools. LTT went super hard into 1 tool and it really shows. So cool to see brand vs obsession.
Makes sense considering what they do too. I used to be a computer tech and a good screwdriver is at the top of the list of things you need. There aren't that many tools you need to fix office computers all day but a good screwdriver is definitely one of them.
You mean like Be_Fawlt_e... they were one of the best at one time, for a little while . then they went off the deep end with a million tools. I won't buy any more after the last purchase, the impact driver broke in a month, yet my 15 yr old blue ryobi that I use every day and has been dropped many many times off ladders and what not is still working great. I'm not saying ryobi is great either, they went to all green junk. Also I use both of those impact drivers daily. I think most everything is becoming crap anyway and starting to look in pawn shops and flee markets for old tools, they were made better.
@htr5372 I dont know tools😂 I never said I did. I said YOU were the pro. Why you acting so sensitive?? (in response to HTR5372- "Tell me you dont know tools without telling me" They edited their comment to just lol)
especially with how on the point the individual tests are and how fast he is talking i think every other channel would have had this video be at least 30min :D
ridiculously good editing in this video to make screwdriver comparisons worth watching the full way through! the fast pace of talking works great in something like this with the quick cut edits and always something worthy to look at on screen
One recurring thing I’ve noticed in these hand tool reviews, the Wera tools are built like tanks. Seems every test they’re one of the most durable. In this day and age, I’ve got to give the company credit for delivering a solid product that will last.
@@SpartanMJO12 These days, flathead screws are so rare most of my flathead screwdrivers are used for prying and wiggling stuff apart. If only they made a proper tool for that :)
Wera also seems to be the default driver supplied with insert cutting tools(at least for milling applications) for installing and removing carbide cutting inserts, from the likes of Sandvik, etc.
Absolute legend, I remember hitting the sub button when you had around 100k and now look where you’re at. You have built an empire on honesty, transparency, integrity and consistency while never selling out or shilling. Thanks for keeping true to the ethos you built this channel on so you can deliver easy to understand results to help consumers become more informed on how they spend their money.
@@criancrna1487 I have to second this notion. If you need help with how to test them I would be happy to volunteer my time. I have over 100 different certifications in the tire industry and could help provide some good insight.
Honestly, whenever I go to buy smaller tools or other shop equipment, I tend to check this channel first for a review on the best brand to get. The objective and thorough testing are second to none on this platform
as much as I trust LTT's quality and their transparency during the design and making of the tools, I still trust your reviews more, because its clearly shown in numbers and compared to other competitors.. as always, great job PF!!
Linus genuinely seemed to try to make the best screwdriver he could. Really it's not the most expensive on the market either. That PB Swiss is eye watering in the price category.
@@1pcfred he makes the tools/equipment he wants himself. So in this case a very nice racheting screwdriver. Also his cable ties and backpack. Not to mention the upcoming magnetic cable management tools which look awesome.
Awesome, a new video. We run a Concrete plant. I think it would be awesome to see which spray nozzles for garden hoses worked the best to wash down mixer trucks. Most durable and strongest stream. Thank you for your videos.
@@bobo888bobo Yes a garden hose test would be amazing. I have the worst luck with hose pipes. They always seem to bubble up or get a pin hole. I would like to know what is the best to buy while still considering price.
As a mechanic, there aren't many things (other than engineer's decisions) more annoying and frustrating than ratcheted tools having so much rotational slop that you can't unscrew anything in a tight area. And the PB Swiss's magnet is almost strong enough to lift a small single choke carburetor, that's impressive
That is not impressive, it means you need PLIARS to remove a bit which makes sure NO ONE ever picks this screwdriver to be used and instead grabs a normal screwdriver with a better handle or an actual changeable bit screwdriver.
@@w8stral Exactly! It also means that in use the screwdriver is going to stick to other metal components making the screwdriver pretty much unusable. Funny how I've seen comments from people who bought the LTT saying they have already broken them. Meanwhile, comments from many Snap On owners (like myself) that have been using theirs for 20-30 years with zero problems. The fact that Linus says he initially wanted to use aluminum for the shaft should have told everyone that this guy has zero knowledge about how to make a tool. Meanwhile, Snap On has been making tools for over 100 years but I'm sure this guy has it all figured out.
@@shark61111 Funny, I don't see a single comment about someone breaking their LTT screwdriver. Where are all these people with broken LTT screwdrivers? Even searching google leads to a SINGLE result.
@@shark61111 "this guy has zero knowledge about how to make a tool" You're right. Which is exactly why he hired a team of engineers and designers to actually design the products
Timestamps of stat charts: Arc Swing: 7:15 Weight (No Bits): 7:25 Weight (With Bits): 7:35 Ratchet Back Drag: 9:38 Shaft Wobble: 11:22 Rotational Slop: 12:56 Magnetic Strength: 14:24 Bit Retention Strength: 15:53 Bit Tip Failure Load: 17:55 Final Ranking: 20:43
This convinced me to go with Wera, seems like a perfect balance of price and quality (magnet strength and bit retention is the most important for me). LTT is the best but it's $100 with tax and shipping to Scandinavia, while the Wera is $38 in total.
Wera always is a good option to go to. So it is with ratcheting screwdrivers! I really like some of the categories the LTT one wins, though. If it holds up for a lifetime? Oof. I have the same struggle, living in Germany. They really need an EU warehouse. I think I will wait some longer until I decide which one to buy...
@@DerKatzeSonne it would most certainly be a 3rd party warehouse/dropkick center and then they cant be on top of customer service and it might make the price go up and all that crap...thats why they probably cant ever do it.
Totally agree, though I was surprised ti see this particular PB s8nce it's much more expensive than the one that has the bits in its body, which is around 75 EUR tax included, so around 75 USD as of recently
I’ve used the Wera daily in an aerospace environment for a few years without issue. After a few days of use the back-drag on mine was very acceptable, though most hardware in aerospace uses a locking feature so it’s not a huge deal. It feels very solid and high quality. If I broke it tomorrow I’d buy another, although I don’t see that happening. Love the channel!
I'm glad to hear this. I have not used Wera's racheting driver, but the rest of their tools that I've used have been very high quality. For the price, I think this would be my choice as well
For screwdrivers, we're using Wera almost exclusively on the rolling stock maintenance company I work for. They seem to be using very strong steel, because I never see them break. The same thing could be said about Knipex and their pliers.
This just shows me that Linus was being honest when he was reviewing and talking about his screwdriver. Even more respect from what is unofficially the best tech channel on TH-cam. Nice review!
Imo the one thing that bumps them up from a tie with gamer's Nexus to the best are their techlinked and techquickie channels. Gamer's Nexus have better videos on the main channel on average imo since they don't bother as much with less interesting things but TechLinked is my favorite and techquickie is a really nice bonus to round up my tech knowledge and send to friends when they need to know something.
Popularity is not the same as quality. Most people are idiots. Which channel (over 200k subscribers) has the highest percentage of IT professionals according to youtube? Gamers Nexus? Hardware Unboxed? Nope, The answer is: The Linux Experiment.
Congratulations to LTT, this shows that your design philosophy was right when you designed this screwdriver. I'm leaning more and more toward a purchase.
do it. I did before watching this. I think of it this way, a good screwdriver will last an ENTIRE lifetime, and you will enjoy using it. Furthermore you are supporting REAL people. 80 hard working staff at LTT, all deserving
@@danwake4431 the evolution of the channel is pretty awesome, I first saw his videos a few years ago when he was testing different kinds of motor oil. The variety is immense
No, I didn't buy the LTT, because I don't do electronics. But I have just bought a Milwaukee angle grinder and in the past two Mossy Oak multi-tools, and other things, based on PF reviews. I just found this screwdriver review interesting and was supplementing @imsnark's post.
I'm wondering how much stuff we use daily and consider to be "ok" can be improved by a few people outside the field and a bit of money to be "actually pretty good". Which leads me to: Hey LTT ... would you mind improving the printer market? Screw proprietary colors. Just input the make and the printer will adjust how it gets used. Opensource drivers. All the jazz we're missing.
That wouldn't be legal. Printers have regulations that require the manufacturers to include tracking software to trace every single printed page back to a printer. Those are the yellow or grey stains on every page, even if the printer is new and clean. Making the entire software of all microchips (not just the network interface and main control chip) open source would violate national security interests.
It's so crazy to see an LTT product being properly reviewed on my favorite channel. Really great testing methods. I'd be curious to see your Subscriber stats after this cross-over.
@@-opus no one, including you, is ever going to put that much force on a screwdriver, especially a ratcheting one. It was a strong arm test that is irrelevent to what the screwdriver is made for.
@@zachf9187 true, who would expect the type of people who follow Linus, to follow Project Farm. Although after watching this video and the dodgy end of it, perhaps they are more similar than would have previously appeared obvious.
**TIME STAMPS** Beginning of first test/review of ratcheting screwdrivers 0:21 - 0:56 Efficiency Test, right to left passes for 360° rotation within 15° space tests 0:56 Efficiency Test results 7:15 Tool weight without bits 7:26 Tool weight with bits 7:34 Ratcheting back drag test 7:45 Ratcheting back drag test results 9:38 Side to side shaft movement test 9:52 Side to side shaft movement test results 11:21 Rotational slop in locked position test 11:34 Rotational slop in locked position test results 12:56 Magnetic strength test 13:13 Magnetic strength test results 14:25 Bit retention strength test 14:38 Bit retention strength test results 15:52 Failure load of bits test 16:06 Bit Failure load of bits test results 17:55 Point of failure ratchets torque 18:07 Dissection of ratcheting screwdrivers 19:41 Overall ranking of ratcheting screwdrivers 20:42 You can find all of this in the description as well. I hope you all have a great day! And don't forget to smile more!!
I have been heavily considering the LTT screwdriver ever since it was announced. I wasn't sure I could justify its price tag though. Now, I'm convinced. Huge props to the LTT team.
Convinced..... lol most of these tests are irrelevant all you are buying is an over priced screw driver anything past 40 is pointless.... unless you are gullible oh and none of the other wrenches joined the show harbor freight and warrior or Chicago. Anyone who would pay $70 for a screw driver is a bad consumer lol top kek.
@@acmecondorsrealm8357 it'll last, My dad bought a good quality screwdriver about 10-13 years ago, no fancy ratchet mechanism or bits tho, However I abused the hell out of it and it still is great, not rusty and quite straight, expect it kinda lost its magnetization on the tip
@@acmecondorsrealm8357 How would it be to let people decide on their own what they want to spend money on, furthermore you are not the person who is able to decide what useless or useful top kek goes to you my boy
@@acmecondorsrealm8357 irrelevant?? These tests cover practically every scenario possibly encountered while using these screwdrivers. The LTT only did poorly in one area, excluding limited bit retention because excessive bit retention is actually a negative. It only lacks stability in lock setting. Too much slack. But it’s a ratcheting screwdriver, so it passes with flying colors.
I thought it would end up being maybe slightly better than average. Can't argue with results though bew my expectations out of the water. And I really like that knurling. Feels weird to buy what is essentially youtuber merch for my actual shop but maybe...
@@Stephan-wf1ec Linus' merch isn't really merch anymore tbh. I mean they literally have employees which rigorously test the products. However, obviously, ain't the best value as you're buying it to support someone.
I don’t usually comment on videos but I’ve been watching your reviews for a few years (along with Linus) and my dad works for a fiber internet company working on servers and such and I saw this review and had to buy him the LTT screwdriver! I’m rewatching the video again with my dad as he was skeptical about giving up his Milwaukee and he’s excited now! Keep up the good work sir!
My buddy loves LTT, so when they came out with this he was all in saying "It's the best screwdriver on the market!" All I heard was your voice "Let's test that." 😉 Thank you so much for putting that driver through the paces. Now he has data to back up his fanaticism... I'll never hear the end of it.
Thanks to this video, I purchased two LTT screwdrivers, recommended the PB swiss to a mate, and convinced another mate to buy the megapro. AND instantly subscribed and started binge watching every Project Farm video. An invaluable service to our industries. Thank you so much.
What screwdriver is best is absolutely dependent on the job. The best screwdriver for working on fine equipment that needs good torque control is not the same as the one that needs to put up with chemical splashes or one that needs to handle excessive torquing.
I liked this review a lot, especially in the set of use-oriented tests and including the bits. Even the best driver can be a fail if the bits are crap. There are a couple of problems I saw. One is that in some of the shaft deflection tests, it looks like the handle deflects in the vise because the vice doesn't grip it well. The other is the geometry of the test with the dial gauge. One of the shafts points slightly down from horizontal, which I think affects the accuracy of the measurement. Overall, best review I've seen so far. I would like to have seen the precision of the bits, especially phillips, in engaging the head of the screws. This is affected by the precision of the screw head, but still would be insteresting to see how it affects camming out and wear of the tip. My guess is that the bits that fractured will work better, but they might tend to strip out the heads more. Overall, great review. I also liked the review of bed liners. I used that one to decide which liner to buy.
How about the part where he removed one of his own tests for the sole purpose of moving the ltt screwdriver to the top of the list, odd that you didn't mention that as a problem.
@@-opus He gave an example of how you could modify the test to suit your needs, and yes, the one he chose did put LTT at the top, but it was also one that was in the top 2 or 3 of likely tests that most people would choose to remove as well. If you're going to try to act like something is a problem, at least bring something more substantial than "he told us we could do a thing and then gave an example that made a result that seemed mildly suspicious". And I don't even like LTT.
@@Omniverse0 Don't try to claim some form of objectivity at the end of your obviously agenda based statement. He did not "give an example", he deliberately removed a criteria for the sole purpose of modifying the results to move the ltt screwdriver to the top, that is not something that can be legitimately denied.
The most impressive part is LTT being only slightly behind first place, at half of the price. Which is still twice the third, but that means their product is likely to be a solid choice for a casual user that has a bit more to spend on tools - which I think would be significant part of their audience
Wait.. what? No? A "casual" user is well adviced to buy one of the cheapest options. They are all doing what they were designed for: Rotating screws in a circle. A 70$ screwdriver will outlive every casual user by far.
In the end you're also buying a piece of merchandise. Most casual users won't need a $70 screwdriver. However, if you're in the market for a screwdriver, want to support LTT AND you have $70 to spend, at least the quality will be worth that money.
@@tmicecave I disagree. There's always a case for more expensive tools, even for casual users. For one the tool should be fun to use. A shitty ratchet might do the job, but a good one will save you some frustration. Same with every other tool. I don't see how you can view a tool outliving you being a bad thing, when it's probably the best quality in a tool you could hope for. People should conciously combat throwaway culture, which is one of the main reasons our planet is so close to being irreversibly fucked. Things that are made to last are always favorable. Doesn't mean you have to spend 70 bucks on a screwdriver, of course, but the cheapest option should almost always be out of the question
I was a little hesitant about the LTT driver. The price tag seemed high for a ratcheting driver. I get it now. It's a pretty good tool that can withstand a lot more damage than it's intended use will ever give it. The precision capabilities look great too.
It would be overcharging of this was only a relabeled big brand screwdriver. But, considering that they did put a LOT of design work into the screwdriver (three years or more!), and that they had to set up all the manufacturing, injection molding etc, I think that it's a reasonable price. And indeed, most of the development time went into making the ratchet mechanism one of the best on the market (and the tests showed that this is where it shines).
I felt the same way, as soon as they said "zinc" I immediately expected it to break like all my old chinesium ratchets. This thing would outlast my hands.
The low backdrag to me is SO important for working on electronics. It's annoying when ratchets cannot actually ratchet without manual intervention on small fasteners you find in computers. Also the bit retention and fastener magnetic strength are extremely important. Without both of these, something like just putting in an M.2 SSD becomes terrifying as if you drop the screen and it slides under a cooler mount, or under the motherboard, you now have to spend hours taking apart the entire computer, reapplying thermal paste, etc; all because that fastener got away.
It's clear there are 3 drivers in the roundup that are Megapro patent licensees. Both the Megapro and other licensee are half the price of the LTT driver. I like double-ended bits, so the Megapro appeals to me. $70 is a lot to spend for a screwdriver, and they *really* need to work on their locked performance so it feels like a regular screwdriver.
The amount and precision of testing is amazing, I'll bet most manufacturers don't even do this much testing. I am always impressed by your testing imagination and engineering skills to build the various test rigs. Thank you!
I would definitely agree that most probably do not, however I will say that LTT from what I understand, has done loads of testing, just in the design phase, to make sure they're putting something out there that's the best quality they can make while pricing it to be affordable. Now, I'm not saying that the LTT Screwdriver is "affordable" in the short term, but, in the long term, compared to other brands, the price is relatively close to what you would pay for 2 or 3 (including replacement) screwdrivers from other brands, which, if the LTT one ends up being something that will last more than 10 or 15 years, without problems, makes it worth it compared to what you will find in most hardware stores, as the ratcheting mechanisms usually don't feel good, or they lock up with a lot of use... Another thing is, despite the warranty debate about LTT, on whether a paper warranty is as good as a verbal "if something is wrong hit up support and we'll fix it"(they did end up with actually adding a written warranty, although they're famous for their implied warranties) they always strive to have great customer support, even if it gets swamped considering how little staff they have in customer support, and you have to wait a while to get responses sometimes... Anything major that LTT does, they want it to be "the best it can be" or "the best ever" because being 2nd best isn't good enough for Linus Sebastian and his team, and if they can't innovate in an area, then they just don't bother trying... That's why the backpack and screwdriver cost so much, is all the research and development that HAD to be done to reach his level of quality...
@@northwiebesick7136 But the cost effectiveness is kinda bad for the LTT screwdriver. It's a modified version of a megapro screwdriver with higher quality materials and great improvement in the less important areas, but for twice the price. So for people who use their screwdriver once or twice a month, it would be better to get a megapro screwdriver.
@@kuratse205 not saying it is or isn't, I'm just saying that I have used a few ratcheting screwdrivers that I have used once or twice a month and I have ended up having to replace them after 4 or 5 months and usually I don't even bother I just the next time I need one I buy one, but still, me having to buy one after like 4 or 5 uses of a 15 $20 one versus using one every day and having it last 10-15 years you have to admit that you know depending on what you're doing with it the cost-effectiveness is still there in the long run... Megapro is a good driver, and they're just down the street from the LTT headquarters, and the guys at megapro where the guys that Linus used for years for a driver, but all the same the reason it's so much more expensive is because of not just the building of it but the shipping of it to his Warehouse(s) and to all the other places it has to be shipped before then... It's not just air shipping that's gone up in price it's all kinds of shipping that has gone up in price, and being a smaller manufacturer and or seller he can't soak up the cost as much as someone who's making millions upon millions of them at a time
I love these tool reviews not just for the awesome tests and objective comparisons, but for introducing me to brands I didn't know existed! Like it's great to see the LTT driver did better than expected, but for my needs a Megapro might be more than enough.
The Megapro is an excellent value. The handle appears chunky and not very ergonomic. After using an older variant of the SnapOn for years where the ratcheting direction selector is reversed, I haven't been able to get used to any other ratcheting screwdriver. For how often I use a ratcheting screwdriver the LTT is worth every penny. If I only used one occasionally I'd definitely consider the Megapro instead.
I was thinking the Megapro looked great, until it was revealed that it has absolutely no magnetic pull whatsoever. That unfortunately killed it for me. The price was obviously MUCH nicer.
I had no concerns regarding LTT's claims to performance for their screwdriver, but this very well designed test only helps reinforce my purchasing decision. Its the right tool for me, now if only they'd make it in purple.
@@TheMijman I mean, all of them broke at forces that you shouldn't be putting on any screwdriver let alone a ratcheting driver. If you need that kind of force you need an impact driver or something, not a hand tool.
This may be an odd suggestion but I go through socks in my work boots/at home very quickly. Not sure it would bw worth testing the durability of wool/cotton socks
This really helps understand the pricing on the LTT. They really did make a good tool. They designed it specifically for computer tech, but it looks like it is a great tool all around.
agreed I bought mine a few days ago before seeing this. I would much much rather buy one single high quality item that will last me for decades, than a bunch of crap that breaks, supports toxic industry, and simply isnt nice to use. sometimes, you pay for what you get
It is amazing that this review show LTT and PB swiss tool as top of the line, just with different optimization. Knowing what those tools are optimized for explains to me why some people love those tool and others think they don't work - it is just depending on use case and quality of the tool. A cheap screwdriver is still a screwdriver, but a cheap ratcheted screw driver is just cheap.
Fantastic review as always! It's great to see that the work that LTT claimed to put into the driver was all towards making a fantastic tool. Thanks for the insane turnaround time on this review, obviously a ton of people were waiting on it before making a purchase decision on the LTT.
@@lordjaashin LTT was never claiming to be the value king, you can get 80% of the LTT Screwdrivers performance for 50% of the price with the Megapro. It's up to you if you want to spend double the money or not for that last 20%
No matter what the outcome of the test results are, the video always starts with me saying, "I would never buy one of those, but I am curious..." and by the end of the video, I feel compelled to do something with all of this vast consumer knowledge!
I love my megapro. The weight, balance in hand, superior bit storage, high quality bits make it the supreme choice for me. I haven't found anything that beats it overall. I wouldn't mind trying the ltt considering it's a collaboration with the megapro A rotating tailend independent from handle is an overlooked feature for 2 handed use... The ltt and MP allows you to apply downward force at the end and than spin with second hand without the end creating friction against your palm. It's the ultimate to prevent the driver from camming out for really tough fasteners and damaging the heads. Also, the storage is really nice and quick. Can't lose cap. Less juggling of bits when on a ladder or standing with no workspace to place anything on Reasons I wouldn't purchase: Klein: heavy Snap on: heavy, only 2-5 bits depending on model, and storage mechanism allows easier loss of bits/cap and slow retrieval Sata: heavy, slow bit retrieval, bits can all fall out Pb Swiss: no onboard bit storage Milwaukee: heavy, difficult bit retrieval Wera: only 6 bits Is ltt worth +$50 over megapro for: Strong magnetic force, Allen bits, knurled shaft Definitely if primary use case is frequent computer maintenance so that you're not dropping fasteners as much while beginning to screw. For mixed use cases... Not sure.
I love the megapro also - but I have issues with the bits falling out while using. everything else is just about perfect for the junk drawer screwdriver in the house.
Don't forget that strong magnets kill hard drives etc.. You allways need to worry about how close your screwdriver is to a part thats sensative to magnets.. A weaker magnet is less risk than a stronger one..
The slop-when-locked issue worried me about the LTT screwdriver, but then I realized I use "locked" with my current no-name ratcheting driver only because the ratchet function is so bad... just ordered an LTT. Biggest thing for me is the magnet strength and bit quality, I've been breaking a LOT of bits, and dropping a lot of screws (usually into places they can't be recovered...) Hopefully the LTT solves those problems!
I personally do a lot of automotive interior work, and I also just ordered the LTT screwdriver after watching this video! Magnet strength is a huge deal for me, since I have lost bits in the center console of cars after they fell out, requiring me to go across the shop to find really long pliers to extract the bit from the top of the transmission tunnel! Huge deal if the bit doesn't fall out to begin with!!
When he tests a type of tool that I don't own, or sometimes for tools that I do own, I'll make note of the tool brands with the best outcome and put those tools on my wish list for future purchases.
I have to speed up most product reviews and skip like 30%(50% in some cases) of the video just to get the info I wanted know. This video, or rather this channel, on the other hand is so densely packed with ALL the info you want and need to know. You won't even skip 1 second of the video because you would miss something. And it all ends with just a list of the products and their capabilities and you're on your own. After all that's how it always goes no matter how many recommendations you get, the decision all comes down to you as to what you'll pick. Spending 20 minutes watching this is better than listening to a friend's recommendation for a minute or 5-10 minutes of researching the internet. I'm really glad I've come across this channel. Now most of the tools that I'll pick up will come from whatever this channel have already tested. Big thanks! All of this are really appreciated!
Ive followed Linus and Project farm for years and years. However never would I expect to see a video where Todd was testing LTT creations ! LTT were not a tool designer / manufacturer yet here they've beat even well established tool companies. Linus, his family, business and employees are legendary and I genuinely wish them all the best.
While LTT is not a tool manufacturer, look at the cost difference between them and the common household brands. Their price would have to be cut in half at minimum to attract the general audience outside of TH-cam, knowledgeable hobbyists on TH-cam, or LTT's fans. I am not discrediting them one bit, but if those big name tool brands had twice as much MSRP to play with, they too would be on a very similar or better level in terms of performance. I'm glad LTT made a product that stands out from the rest, and hopefully they roll in the dough, but $70 for a screwdriver is steep for most people.
@@PaftDunk Great points. Part of the cost for LTT has to come from smaller scales of economy that have to get factored into the cost, I'm sure you know this, but for others reading our comments just pointing that out
I remember I first found this channel watching a 4 year old video about if car oil brands made a difference and 4 years after it was posted the guy was still replying to every comment thanking them for their feedback, I love this dudes channel I’m glad LTT got a review from him
I just wanna point out that this channel is possibly the most realistic and fair testing channel on TH-cam. Obviously we aren't sitting here watching millions of dollars of equipment or anything, but the attention to detail, the transparency with the tooling and with the products being tested. I have enjoyed this channel for years and I will continue enjoying. Thanks for the great content!
@Hand Tool Reviews if you say so. I've enjoyed this channel and the content. Man's is allowed to have a preference. However the testing was performed as consistently as possible when possible. I think that in itself supports my original comment more than enough.
This was the most dense and efficient delivery of information I've ever seen. I have no idea what else this channel is about (here from LTT) but I subscribed. Great content and no BS. I am HERE for it. Keep it up!
If I'm on the fence about an item I type the item name in the search bar followed by project farm... decision made in under 20min. Greatest TH-cam channel out here.
@@cognition26 This video is very different to all of his other videos, take a look at the thumbnail and title for starters, compare them to all of his other videos. This is an advert, not a review.
I was going to get the ltt but its backordered til February of next year and im impatient. I got the milwaukee 2pc set with stubby. It has a nice sound and weight
As a fan of both Linus Tech Tips, Project Farm, and as someone who already ordered their LTT Screwdriver...I'm so thrilled to see this video! I love both your channels, their content, and the amazing work you all do! Also very thrilled to have a fantastic screwdriver for IT work!
Watching this video should have showed you that you got grifted. You paid double for the same quality screw driver. I knew they would get some fan boy suckers.
Now I understand the price behind the LTT screwdriver. Definitely seems like it deserves it compared to the competition. Interesting to see how it's just kinda "Megapro but better" - which is a good thing. Edit: I'm not saying it's not expensive, I'm saying it justifies that price. Sure, the $35 Megapro will get you most of the way there, but you're missing the magnet (actually a major thing) or if you go for one of the others then you're missing quality stuff like the very low backdrag. I'll be using my iFixit kit, but I don't think this driver is a bad idea.
Yep, they could have just got the Megapro but put LTT logo on it, but they wanted to improve on every aspect of it.. Since Megapro is already established their production costs are probably cheaper too so the price per screwdriver can come down. LTT has all new fabs that would have costs alot to get started, even with the help of an established brand.
I guess that’s one way of looking at it. But depends on what ur looking for. Get rid of the magnets and megapro does better on the final scorecard. But there’s benefits that weren’t reflected here.
I've had a Wera for a long time, and am pretty fond of it. It was toward the top end of middling on these tests, but the grip is SUPER comfortable, which is worth a lot in and of itself.
I have both the ratcheting mega pro and normal mega pro with more bits (I think that one has 24?), I've never been let down by either a single time. Affordable and very effective.
I'm so conditioned to look for them in hand tool tests, I was really hoping Wiha made a ratcheting screwdriver but at least we got to see a Wera. This is a great lineup, that Megapro was very impressive. I did very much miss you sharing the country of origin when introducing each tool.
most of the tools are made in China, where the company is based really doesn't matter its almost all chinese made. Some exceptions, PB swiss serializes their tools so you can search where they were built but for most of the major brands just assume its MIC
well its because everybody knows Wiha is great(for the most part), I'm from the butterfly knife community and i would say a good amount of us are in the Wiha camp, every squid industries maintenance kit contains a Wiha t10 screwdriver for example, ive bought their entire set of torx screwdrivers for the hobby as well and a good bit of others i would think can attest to Wihas quality, dont get me wrong, i wanna see them compared too but i feel like that i could predict the outcome
PB Swiss actually makes a version which includes a bit holder "PB 6510 R-100" I have it myself and really like it. It looks to be the same as the one you tested apart from the bit holder though, so I wouldn't expect it to make a big difference. Just wanted to point it out in case someone considers it but is put off by the lack of storage in the driver.
The Williams uses the same style ratcheting mechanism as the older style snap on, not the new one! I’d like to see how the hard handle snap on would compare, not this one that has a removable shank.
I somehow manged to lose my beloved Snap-on driver. I replaced it with a Williams, and always thought that it was eerily similar to the Snap-on, but maybe a bit better than the Snap-on. Makes sense to me that they have the same ratcheting mechanism. Thanks, that's good to know.
SnapOn lives on a reputation they no longer deserve. About two decades ago they were great in the hand tools arena, now they are not even prosumer worthy, it's just cheap crap with a high price tag. If you can't get and use the warranty of on site replacements SnapOn is not worth even half of what it costs.
@@ryanclark8980 the Williams looks very, much like an older Snap On ratcheting screwdriver of mine. It's probably 30 years old. So your conclusion makes sense.
I love my PB Swiss, which also comes in a black handle that holds bits. LTT looks really good for the price. Thanks I love watching your reviews very informative.
I too have the PB Swiss version tested and also the black handled version with the bits in the handle. They preform by far the best I have ever used. And the bits they come with are also fantastic.
@@abolfazlsaravani2214 If you buy the PB Swiss with the bits separately, it is actually cheaper than the LTT screwdriver, which is why I’ve just ordered the PB Swiss^^
It's interesting to note that the Megapro also comes in an "automotive" version, which uses 'standard' 1/4" bits (not the double ended ones) and also has a magnetic tip. To me, that's the one I'll be buying. Great review!
@@cybyrd9615 Do you really need bit retention to be higher than 0.8kg/1.5lbs? I'd like to see how easy it is to break the bit holder on all screwdrivers. In one of LTT's recent live videos, 2 people broke the bit holder within a 2 hour period. Leaning on a screwdriver is a real world application to help get the screwdriver head to bite into a screw head, especially with cam-out screw heads like philips. So i'd like to see if LTT's screwdriver is on the softer side or in line with other bit screwdrivers. I only use regular screwdrivers where this obviously isn't an issue. I have been thinking about getting a quality bit screwdriver for when taking multiple screwdrivers isn't suitable.
this is why i LOVE this channel… no clickbait, no bs, just straight to the tool comparison. well done 🤝 also pleased to see my favorite tech channel made a really good product.
damn, those PB Swiss drivers are wild didn't expect it to keep such a solid lead. That being said, after watching all the work and passion that went into the LTT screwdriver I'm really glad to see it holding it's own and even leading in the categories that the team focused most on. Fantastic video as always!
"all the work and passion" ...they rebranded and slightly modified another brands product, meanwhile Linus is basically suggesting that he invented screwdrivers.
@@-opus All tires are not the same but we buy the one that performs well on the category that we need. Linus is open with his screwdriver journey and thanked mega pro for letting them use their screw driver and made it better.
Somehow PF always delivers the perfect review whenever I'm looking at obtaining a new product. Hitting it out of the park once in a blue moon is a coincidence, hitting it out of the park on a regular basis is a skill.
It’s amazing how through you are on all of these tests!! I really don’t care about all of that, but you make it so entertaining and enjoyable to watch! I am pretty sure I have watch ALL of you videos and several of them I have watched many times! Thank you sir!!
Hey Todd, we use masonry drill bits a lot but over the years we've had them go from one bit lasting months to needing 2-4 bits per job. We'd love to see if there's a brand that will be durable enough to last us a reasonable time. Thanks!
hilti bits with the cross at the top. most masonry drill bits have 2 "hammers" at the top for drilling the hillti brand ones have four in a + shape they are amazing. last so so much longer than other brands. I used to use a new 8mm bit every time i built a fence onto a customers wall. I then bought hilti bits which ive used for at least 20 fences and they are still perfectly fine. so lasting at least twenty times longer
Working mostly with wood screws, I prefer Bosch bits for endurance at a reasonable price. If you decide to give them a try, remember that in most cases the smaller sets/boxes are cheaper per unit for this brand (I suspect they do so precisely because it's counter-intuitive). I for one don't see the point in paying more just for a fancy plastic container or a couple of extra tools that don't match the purpose of the main set.
Good to see this test. I wasn't necessarily considering LTT's at $70, was impressed by the Megapro itself. But the Williams at half the price really spoke to me. Great magnet strength, low ratchet back drag... but I can see the value in the LTT for double that I wasn't sure about prior to this comparison. I'd be curious to see some long term durability since that thing is going to get tossed around.
@@HaddaClu That's definitely true if you're only getting one thing, but for people who want to buy a few things between the screwdriver, a desk pad, a shirt, a water bottle, etc. the shipping cost becomes less of a factor in the overall price (by percent I mean)
I bought a load of Megapro tools from a garage sale because they were cheap, and I just figured they were a cheapo brand because of that. I was very surprised with the build quality of the tools. Felt great in hand and seem very durable
I hope LTT paid handsomely for this promotional advertisement … the LTT branded tool is clearly a knock-off of the Mega-Pro … and only double the price.
@@brightymcbrightface LTT literally teamed up with mega-pro to source the ratcheting mechanism, the company is just down the road from them. They just modified it a bit. Also i don't think you realise how illegal and expensive it gets when you fail to mention a video is a paid promotion. I think your just a bit emotional about the hype on a screwdriver lol.
@@brightymcbrightface LTT posted a whole video on all they went through to make their screw driver but you couldn't be bothered to do a little research before slandering a company. SMH
This review is great. I always come here to see where my “go to” is going to land in the rankings. Also, the comment “and the snap-on snapped off” made me chuckle. Great content as always. God Bless
Keep in mind that depending on where you live, the prices for the screw drivers will be different and as a Swiss citizen, i can get a PB Swiss with included bit holder (there exist such a version) which is cheaper then the LTT screwdriver (when you factor in delivery the prices are almost reversed for these two screw drivers for me locally).
Indeed, although the PB Swiss tool is perfect for self-tapping, like in wood or sheet metal, while the LTT one low backdraft is better for metric screws. But yeah for "real work" the PB is better.
If anyone on the planet ever asked me if I wanted to watch a test review with researched data on some wratcheting drivers. I would say why the hell would I want to watch that? Yet here I am watching Project Farm doing it better than anyone ever could. I can't believe how interesting and exciting you made this out. Thanks for the video my Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
I work in a shop where we love Wera tools but after watching this I wound up going for the MegaPro for our 5 workstations. I think brand loyalty can be valuable but it only gets you so far!
This man has singlehandedly destroyed entire companies, keep up the good work and don't ever sell out. I'm sure he gets millions of emails from companies offering money to not post these reviews.
As someone who has worked for two of the largest tool brands and has friends at several others i can assure you that no this channel hasnt changed much in the industry and most companies are still chasing the almighty dollar over brand reputation. Its a shame.
Or the companies could prove themselves, that they are not trying to “screw” people. And actually improve their product based on the weaknesses project farm finds. I will not be surprised that in the future I would see companies putting “improved” Thanks to project farms. Or “project farm tested”
To me, back drag is the most important issue. Most of what I use screwdrivers for does not involve significant drag on the screws. If I ever need to replace my snap on (came in a package deal), looks like I’ll be looking up that LTT!
Most important issue for me on these ratcheting screwdrivers is the diameter of the adapter end. If you can't reach a screw deep in a recessed hole, like on many electronic components, then it's useless (until you dig out and install a longer tip from another screwdriver, if you have one).
@@TRD_Kyle just a heads up megapro makes a magnetic version of their driver with 12 bits called the automotive version. Idk why everyone always seems to compare this version instead.
Very interesting how tech channels dip into tooling, and even more interesting when they keep up with very well established competitors! Gamers Nexus also offers (non-ratcheting) screwdrivers which seem very high quality, would be great to see their stuff included someday, wonder how they'd fare. When you're using daily the things you're making and you're not in the game primarily for money, it probably gives a good edge in developing really good tools (although at a higher price point).
My family has had an cheap ratcheting screwdriver for years and I always wondered how people were able to just quickly unscrew/screw things because our screwdriver just wouldn't easily do that without help from us. Didn't realize that it just had super high back drag. Thanks for the informative video!
A unique feature of the Milwaukee is that the entire shaft is replaced, instead of just the bit tip. This makes it able to reach down narrower shafts, which is an important feature for me. It reminds me of a ratcheting Xcelite I used to own. (All ratchets will fail in time. The non-ratcheting Xcelites are still going very strong. No way to mangle those tips.)
Very true - one of my biggest annoyances with bit drivers is that they always have a larger dia than a regular screwdriver shaft which can prevent using them on recessed fasteners. I'm surprised nobody else has commented on this.
I agree. I had the Milwaukee for many years. The bits started wearing and the shaft started to wobble too much so I replaced it with the Workpro from Amazon. I actually like it better and price is better. Also, I know they are rated 0 here, but with the long bits you can very easily run a magnet along them a few times and magnetize them lasting for months. I think the Milwaukee and now Workpro are the best designs.
@@kevinpacheco8169 clothing is tough as most creators get stuff printed on other people's blanks instead of making their own. Then, even if they make their own blanks they still aren't the loom.
You are still the best reviewer of hardware tools the internet has ever seen. I have been looking forward to this review to see how the LTT screw driver holds up. I bought the Milwaukee as the long bits mean that I can access deeply recessed screws, that is most common on appliances with plastic housing. Keep up the impressive work. Many thanks, Anton.
That's why I have a Whia System4 with S4/PH1 and System6 with S6/PH2 that covers 99% of what I need from a screwdriver in the data centre. For those not familiar with System4/6 the whole blade comes out of the handle and is double-ended. Consequently, there are no problems getting into recessed areas. I have the old precision System4 handle and a more modern soft grip System6 handle.
This makes me feel pretty good about what I’ve invested in Wera. Though, props to LTT for what they put together. Some of these companies should be ashamed at their performance vs a team who’s development budget probably couldn’t remodel their corporate waiting rooms.
The tests I care about LTT came 1, 1, 1 and 2 which is great since I bought it. I don't care that my screwdriver cant pick up 2kg but thats very impressive and I don't care about locked usage. Awesome video.
If the bit retention magnet is too strong your hands cant even get the bit out of the thing without trouble. as its a computer building screwdriver there's not that many heavy things to pick up in a computer.
This was a great review, but one advantage you didn't point out on the Milwaukee driver is that the long bits work great for sunken screws. That was my deciding factor when purchasing this one. Don't know how many times I've pulled out the old multi driver to have the bit fit in the hole, but the shank is too big to reach the sunken screw.
I was thinking the same thing. That's a strong advantage for a ratcheting screwdriver to have. Wera makes a similar model with the long bits and that was the deciding factor for me.
Looks like the three years of development paid off for the LTT screwdriver! Really liked your breakdown between the mega pro and the LTT driver to show the difference!
Yeah kind of sad, they're just riding out the dead husk of their former glory. Maybe theyll stock up these cheesy profits for a new era of development? Doubtful.
As the older/elderly generation that continues to buy their shit with pension checks because of the brand name dies out, they will feel the impact on their profits more and more. These tests are kind of extreme, but for general use you can easily get away with even a cheapo 5 dollar exchangeable bit screwdriver from harbor freight. Want it to be magnetized? Slap a 3 dollar bar magnet on it. But I do understand the appeal of having a 'nice' tool, LTT def wins.
Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
PB Swiss: amzn.to/3cuYSni
Wera: amzn.to/3R4Dp3D
GearWrench: amzn.to/3CG8LcD
Williams: amzn.to/3CJ49T6
Irwin: amzn.to/3QafhLW
Megapro: amzn.to/3Q6zVMK
Milwaukee: amzn.to/3KwYTnf
Klein Tools: amzn.to/3B0t1UQ
Husky: amzn.to/3e8b3XQ (no longer available)
Lenox: amzn.to/3pSRTYy
SATA: amzn.to/3CG8hmP
Black+Decker: amzn.to/3pWhPSZ
LTT: www.lttstore.com/products/scr...
Snap On: Available at the Snap On Website/Store
My heart was pounding the entire time I was watching, but I'm so glad we submitted to be included in this round-up. Seeing the results from an independent source hits so different and I'm incredibly proud of our team.
Also, massive props to Todd for changing the game when it comes to objective tool reviews.
I'm sure this won't be our last crossover episode ;) - LS
It is official.
Great job from the LTT screwdriver team!! 🎉🎉
LTT is clearly a winner here ! given the price tag of the PB swiss
Your screwdriver is legit, it's half the price of the most premium product on display but performs extremely similarly, I'm thoroughly impressed that you guys were able to take the Megapro and actually improve on it this much
And congrats of having the best all rounder product.
Project Farm taught me a thing: The cheapest things aren't worth the trouble, and the most expensive aren't worth the money. The mid-tier you find good tools that don't rip your wallet.
Irwin almost always performs well for the price.
Well said. 100% agree.
Imo the prices are often odd on his videos, the PB Swiss screwdriver costs 50€ over here.
@@jpikl1284 well he lives here in the states and guess what costs of goods are different. not just from conversion rate also due to shipping and handling and then the government has to tax everything. so price will change
@@ralphnapierii1184 my Irwin is broke currently. I think my wife broke it havnt asked her how but loved it minus the weight of it.
i cant express the immeasurable value this channel alone CONTRIBUTES TO THE EFFICIENCY OF MY TIME, THE PRESERVATION OF MY MONEY, AND THE CONFIDENCE THAT I"VE GOT THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB.
Thanks so much!
I recently bought a house and man am I glad for this channel!
This has saved me so much time and money. In the past you would just buy some harborfreight and be ok and moderately happy. Then their tool quality took a dive a long time ago. But you could survive. The day a cheap set of screwdrivers failed on the first use. Demanded a project farm amazing reviewer to sort through the bologna. Because you can't just buy the average tool at lowes/homedepot. That leads to failure more often too.
I love my cle-line drill bits, irwin dikes and channel lock needlenose. And knowing the right bits to buy now. Milwaukee ones are trash and he proved it, but I knew it when I bought some before PF review. They break and wear out fast.
So very true .. and he has a Farmabego. 😁
I like that I don’t even have to put his videos to 1.5x speed. It’s the default setting for his voice.
love that I dont have to turn on 2x playback speed unlike most tool review videos ...thats some dense efficient content!!
Thanks!
so true
it was just nonstop information, no wasted seconds.
@@nodrance there is no point making adverts too long
This is why we have ADHD lol
First time watching the channel, just wanna say I’m super impressed at how efficiently and cleanly all of the information is presented. You waste very little time with fluff and nonsense, and just get right into the information that matters. Very well done
Thanks!
No way, can’t believe you testing LTT screwdriver this fast, love your content!!
Thank you and hope you enjoy the video!
yeah
Fantastic content! Was anticipating this video particularly :D
Me too!!! I saw the title and re-read. This is the test I wanted but never thought would happen
They got in touch and had LTT overnight two for him to test.
PB Swiss feels like the screwdriver you use in industrial applications. Where losing a single bit during maintenance can be disastrous, so you need that magnetic pull!
i guess if you're crazy and work on computers while they're laying motherboard facing up while it's running, this could be a good feature haha
If you live in europe and have your own set of bits the ratchetbitholder is 55 euro only.
I have the PB and definitely does not cost $144, it's an awesome ratchet
there is a facom one that not only has a magnet yo hold the bits, but also a mechanical locking system. ACL.1A is the reference
yeah for example on aircraft engines. It happened, mechanic forgot screwdriver bit on engine cowling and engine ingest bit during high speed take off run. It failed and was badly damaged.
Never have I thought I would be into late night watching screwdriver reviews.
That was very entertaining and useful.
Thanks!
Me either, taking into account that I don’t even need one and have been watching this video just after LTT’s 30 minutes screwdriver story😂
@@paincast2347 same, but four months late
Literally me on 3AM lol
haha same for me
As I've said many times before what makes these tests really great is how thorough & well thought out the testing regime is. I wish you continued success and look forward to watching many, many more tests!
Thanks so much!
@@ProjectFarm Thank YOU for consistently doing these tests so thoroughly!!! I, and I hope others too, bought many a tool or other product based not only on your reviews and testing, but also by considering the factors that you test for! Then, when you test one of those that I picked based on your testing factors, which happens pretty often, it turns out to be a top performer.
You're doing a valuable service, friend, we all appreciate it very much! 😀👍
Another thing to note is how efficiently PF provides the information. He gets right to the point - no long intros or filler.
I love how simple a solution he comes up with for the tests. For 'just a screwdriver' he tested way more features than I was expecting. Also destroying them is a bonus too. I've bought a few tools based on his reviews, and its almost never the best one, but always the best for the need or price.
@@manicdan481 Best, unfortunately is a relative term and is often simply just a matter of what your need is more then if it works for everyone. I totally agree with that PF goes the extra mile in his test even to the point of breaking the product - especially because he doesn't except sponsors and pays for everything he test 100% out of pocket.
Two takeaways from this: LTT's driver is actually really good and stands up to task, especially for tech work and I'm surprised at how much it matched Linus's hype. The second takeaway is that Megapro is an amazing value for money. Like an insane amount of performance for relatively little money.
@The Night they're right though, the Megapro automotive is has a magnet.
The Megapro is my favorite ratcheting screwdriver by miles...however he should've used the automotive one. Different shaft length and the bit storage is setup for the regular short bits.
LTTs screwdriver is the best marketing for Megapros screwdriver.
Thanks for sharing.
I used a Megapro for CCTV work. Great screwdriver but is chonk. My backup was actually the Husky that was reviewed. We'll see when my LTT arrives.
Most tool companies are trying to sell you an entire line of tools. LTT went super hard into 1 tool and it really shows. So cool to see brand vs obsession.
I call it brand religion :)
I said the exact same in their video. When there's no upsell, you put everything into one product. Glad it came out great
Makes sense considering what they do too. I used to be a computer tech and a good screwdriver is at the top of the list of things you need. There aren't that many tools you need to fix office computers all day but a good screwdriver is definitely one of them.
You mean like Be_Fawlt_e... they were one of the best at one time, for a little while . then they went off the deep end with a million tools. I won't buy any more after the last purchase, the impact driver broke in a month, yet my 15 yr old blue ryobi that I use every day and has been dropped many many times off ladders and what not is still working great. I'm not saying ryobi is great either, they went to all green junk. Also I use both of those impact drivers daily. I think most everything is becoming crap anyway and starting to look in pawn shops and flee markets for old tools, they were made better.
Thanks for watching!
wow, I didn't expect the LTT screwdriver to be that impressive
and I also didn't expect such intricate testing procedures, great job on both parts
Thanks.
@HTR ?
@htr5372 make your own comparative tests?
@htr5372 You already make a bunch of screwdriver videos might as well make a comparison video like this one. You're the pro right?
@htr5372 I dont know tools😂 I never said I did. I said YOU were the pro. Why you acting so sensitive??
(in response to HTR5372- "Tell me you dont know tools without telling me" They edited their comment to just lol)
Props to Project Farm for making a 20 minute screwdriver comparison video that is entertaining to watch 😂
Thanks!
indeed.
@@ProjectFarm my favorite part was when you broke 1000$ worth of screwdrivers lmao ty for reviewing ltt screwdriver!
especially with how on the point the individual tests are and how fast he is talking i think every other channel would have had this video be at least 30min :D
ridiculously good editing in this video to make screwdriver comparisons worth watching the full way through! the fast pace of talking works great in something like this with the quick cut edits and always something worthy to look at on screen
One recurring thing I’ve noticed in these hand tool reviews, the Wera tools are built like tanks. Seems every test they’re one of the most durable. In this day and age, I’ve got to give the company credit for delivering a solid product that will last.
I can't fault any of my Wera screwdrivers. I've used the longer ones as ill-advised pry bars and they didn't complain one bit.
@@SpartanMJO12 These days, flathead screws are so rare most of my flathead screwdrivers are used for prying and wiggling stuff apart. If only they made a proper tool for that :)
I love my wera stuff
@@Null-- lets develop a prybar-bit 😂
Wera also seems to be the default driver supplied with insert cutting tools(at least for milling applications) for installing and removing carbide cutting inserts, from the likes of Sandvik, etc.
Absolute legend, I remember hitting the sub button when you had around 100k and now look where you’re at. You have built an empire on honesty, transparency, integrity and consistency while never selling out or shilling.
Thanks for keeping true to the ethos you built this channel on so you can deliver easy to understand results to help consumers become more informed on how they spend their money.
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm have you done a test for the best all around 4 1/2 metal cutting disc
I know, I feel the same way... been watching his channel for a couple of years now and it is really cool
@@ProjectFarm please do a review on tire pressure gauges! I still haven’t been able to narrow down an accurate brand these days.
@@criancrna1487 I have to second this notion. If you need help with how to test them I would be happy to volunteer my time. I have over 100 different certifications in the tire industry and could help provide some good insight.
Honestly, whenever I go to buy smaller tools or other shop equipment, I tend to check this channel first for a review on the best brand to get. The objective and thorough testing are second to none on this platform
Thanks for the feedback.
The crossover we didn't think we needed, but glad it happened
Thank you!
Ah yes!
No i hounded the hell out of linus for this to happen, i needed this
lol no, we all very much knew we needed this
This was actually the first thing I thought
as much as I trust LTT's quality and their transparency during the design and making of the tools, I still trust your reviews more, because its clearly shown in numbers and compared to other competitors.. as always, great job PF!!
LTT promised and they didn't disappoint
Linus genuinely seemed to try to make the best screwdriver he could. Really it's not the most expensive on the market either. That PB Swiss is eye watering in the price category.
@@1pcfred he makes the tools/equipment he wants himself. So in this case a very nice racheting screwdriver. Also his cable ties and backpack. Not to mention the upcoming magnetic cable management tools which look awesome.
I appreciate that! Thank you very much!
@@sneezing_panda The backpack is unfortunately very expensive, in my opinion too expensive. (around $200)
Awesome, a new video. We run a Concrete plant. I think it would be awesome to see which spray nozzles for garden hoses worked the best to wash down mixer trucks. Most durable and strongest stream. Thank you for your videos.
Thank you for the video idea!
Please test garden hoses as well. Thank you.
I honestly like the old school metal one where you adjust the stream by how far you squeeze the handle.
@@bobo888bobo Yes a garden hose test would be amazing. I have the worst luck with hose pipes. They always seem to bubble up or get a pin hole. I would like to know what is the best to buy while still considering price.
@@bobo888bobo That was done last year.
As a mechanic, there aren't many things (other than engineer's decisions) more annoying and frustrating than ratcheted tools having so much rotational slop that you can't unscrew anything in a tight area.
And the PB Swiss's magnet is almost strong enough to lift a small single choke carburetor, that's impressive
Thanks for the feedback.
That is not impressive, it means you need PLIARS to remove a bit which makes sure NO ONE ever picks this screwdriver to be used and instead grabs a normal screwdriver with a better handle or an actual changeable bit screwdriver.
@@w8stral Exactly! It also means that in use the screwdriver is going to stick to other metal components making the screwdriver pretty much unusable. Funny how I've seen comments from people who bought the LTT saying they have already broken them. Meanwhile, comments from many Snap On owners (like myself) that have been using theirs for 20-30 years with zero problems. The fact that Linus says he initially wanted to use aluminum for the shaft should have told everyone that this guy has zero knowledge about how to make a tool. Meanwhile, Snap On has been making tools for over 100 years but I'm sure this guy has it all figured out.
@@shark61111 Funny, I don't see a single comment about someone breaking their LTT screwdriver. Where are all these people with broken LTT screwdrivers? Even searching google leads to a SINGLE result.
@@shark61111 "this guy has zero knowledge about how to make a tool"
You're right. Which is exactly why he hired a team of engineers and designers to actually design the products
Timestamps of stat charts:
Arc Swing: 7:15
Weight (No Bits): 7:25
Weight (With Bits): 7:35
Ratchet Back Drag: 9:38
Shaft Wobble: 11:22
Rotational Slop: 12:56
Magnetic Strength: 14:24
Bit Retention Strength: 15:53
Bit Tip Failure Load: 17:55
Final Ranking: 20:43
Thanks!
Sometimes I think, "man, this guy must have the most epic tool collection." Then I remember that almost everything is busted.
lol Thanks for watching!
Would make giveaways of the stuff he tested a hilarious deal.
@@ernie325 "Slightly used"
@@anonanon3066 "Quality tested" ;)
I'm guessing he breaks everything then goes out and buys the best one so still prolly a quality collection.
This convinced me to go with Wera, seems like a perfect balance of price and quality (magnet strength and bit retention is the most important for me). LTT is the best but it's $100 with tax and shipping to Scandinavia, while the Wera is $38 in total.
Thanks for sharing.
Wera always is a good option to go to. So it is with ratcheting screwdrivers! I really like some of the categories the LTT one wins, though. If it holds up for a lifetime? Oof. I have the same struggle, living in Germany. They really need an EU warehouse. I think I will wait some longer until I decide which one to buy...
@@DerKatzeSonne it would most certainly be a 3rd party warehouse/dropkick center and then they cant be on top of customer service and it might make the price go up and all that crap...thats why they probably cant ever do it.
@@nekoroms exactly: 3rd party warehouse. But I doubt what you say about customer service.
Totally agree, though I was surprised ti see this particular PB s8nce it's much more expensive than the one that has the bits in its body, which is around 75 EUR tax included, so around 75 USD as of recently
I’ve used the Wera daily in an aerospace environment for a few years without issue. After a few days of use the back-drag on mine was very acceptable, though most hardware in aerospace uses a locking feature so it’s not a huge deal. It feels very solid and high quality. If I broke it tomorrow I’d buy another, although I don’t see that happening. Love the channel!
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad to hear this. I have not used Wera's racheting driver, but the rest of their tools that I've used have been very high quality. For the price, I think this would be my choice as well
Aircraft mechanic here too. I love my Wera. The speed that you can change bits is one thing I really like about it.
For screwdrivers, we're using Wera almost exclusively on the rolling stock maintenance company I work for. They seem to be using very strong steel, because I never see them break. The same thing could be said about Knipex and their pliers.
I love Wera tools.
Top quality at a reasonable price.
This just shows me that Linus was being honest when he was reviewing and talking about his screwdriver. Even more respect from what is unofficially the best tech channel on TH-cam. Nice review!
Thanks!
Imo the one thing that bumps them up from a tie with gamer's Nexus to the best are their techlinked and techquickie channels. Gamer's Nexus have better videos on the main channel on average imo since they don't bother as much with less interesting things but TechLinked is my favorite and techquickie is a really nice bonus to round up my tech knowledge and send to friends when they need to know something.
Sameeee dude
Popularity is not the same as quality. Most people are idiots. Which channel (over 200k subscribers) has the highest percentage of IT professionals according to youtube? Gamers Nexus? Hardware Unboxed? Nope, The answer is: The Linux Experiment.
@@communitycollegegenius9684 I died laughing at this comment
Congratulations to LTT, this shows that your design philosophy was right when you designed this screwdriver. I'm leaning more and more toward a purchase.
Thanks for the feedback.
Really the magnet test was the most convincing.
do it. I did before watching this. I think of it this way, a good screwdriver will last an ENTIRE lifetime, and you will enjoy using it.
Furthermore you are supporting REAL people. 80 hard working staff at LTT, all deserving
The problem never was about their product being low quality. But overly expensive (case in point: twice as expensive than the competition)
LTT is a globalist in America but a fascist in išяeal. Not a fan.
You know you've got a good product when PF hits you with a 'very impressive!', nice job to the guys over at LTT
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm
He said nice job to the LTT guys, not you
@@ResistTheGreatReplacementEU He was saying thank you for your comment. No need to be a jerk.
@@Yeeaarg It's called a joke chill.
@@hioeo Nah, doesn't count. It wasn't funny
This has to be one of, if not the most, useful channels on youtube. It's hard for me to express just how amazing this channel is.
Thanks!
he doesnt have 2.6MM followers for nothing lol
@@danwake4431 the evolution of the channel is pretty awesome, I first saw his videos a few years ago when he was testing different kinds of motor oil. The variety is immense
I buy tools I don't even really need just on the recommendation of PF!
No, I didn't buy the LTT, because I don't do electronics. But I have just bought a Milwaukee angle grinder and in the past two Mossy Oak multi-tools, and other things, based on PF reviews. I just found this screwdriver review interesting and was supplementing @imsnark's post.
I'm wondering how much stuff we use daily and consider to be "ok" can be improved by a few people outside the field and a bit of money to be "actually pretty good". Which leads me to: Hey LTT ... would you mind improving the printer market? Screw proprietary colors. Just input the make and the printer will adjust how it gets used. Opensource drivers. All the jazz we're missing.
Easy way to get assassinated by big printer
LTT “ok see you in 20 years”, their driver took 3 years to develop
@@BobfromHolland Thats because linus is so particular, as well as the manafacturer in Taiwan screwing them over.
That wouldn't be legal. Printers have regulations that require the manufacturers to include tracking software to trace every single printed page back to a printer. Those are the yellow or grey stains on every page, even if the printer is new and clean. Making the entire software of all microchips (not just the network interface and main control chip) open source would violate national security interests.
@@wilhelmhohenzollern576 people ask why I use a 20 year old color laser printer. This is why.
It's so crazy to see an LTT product being properly reviewed on my favorite channel. Really great testing methods. I'd be curious to see your Subscriber stats after this cross-over.
Properly reviewed? He removed an important test at the end to push the LTT screwdriver to the top of the listing 🙄
@@-opus no one, including you, is ever going to put that much force on a screwdriver, especially a ratcheting one. It was a strong arm test that is irrelevent to what the screwdriver is made for.
It's surprised me. I figured I was a somewhat rare subscriber of both channels.
@@zachf9187 true, who would expect the type of people who follow Linus, to follow Project Farm. Although after watching this video and the dodgy end of it, perhaps they are more similar than would have previously appeared obvious.
@@neely8607 Are you suggesting that Project Farm tests irrelevant attributes of products?
**TIME STAMPS**
Beginning of first test/review of ratcheting screwdrivers 0:21 - 0:56
Efficiency Test, right to left passes for 360° rotation within 15° space tests 0:56
Efficiency Test results 7:15
Tool weight without bits 7:26
Tool weight with bits 7:34
Ratcheting back drag test 7:45
Ratcheting back drag test results 9:38
Side to side shaft movement test 9:52
Side to side shaft movement test results 11:21
Rotational slop in locked position test 11:34
Rotational slop in locked position test results 12:56
Magnetic strength test 13:13
Magnetic strength test results 14:25
Bit retention strength test 14:38
Bit retention strength test results 15:52
Failure load of bits test 16:06
Bit Failure load of bits test results 17:55
Point of failure ratchets torque 18:07
Dissection of ratcheting screwdrivers 19:41
Overall ranking of ratcheting screwdrivers 20:42
You can find all of this in the description as well. I hope you all have a great day! And don't forget to smile more!!
Thanks!
Thx
I didn't know I needed tool review esports in my life until I watched this video 😂Thank you for such an informative and thorough review!
You are welcome!
I have been heavily considering the LTT screwdriver ever since it was announced. I wasn't sure I could justify its price tag though. Now, I'm convinced. Huge props to the LTT team.
Thanks for the feedback.
Convinced..... lol most of these tests are irrelevant all you are buying is an over priced screw driver anything past 40 is pointless.... unless you are gullible oh and none of the other wrenches joined the show harbor freight and warrior or Chicago. Anyone who would pay $70 for a screw driver is a bad consumer lol top kek.
@@acmecondorsrealm8357 it'll last, My dad bought a good quality screwdriver about 10-13 years ago,
no fancy ratchet mechanism or bits tho, However I abused the hell out of it and it still is great, not rusty and quite straight, expect it kinda lost its magnetization on the tip
@@acmecondorsrealm8357
How would it be to let people decide on their own what they want to spend money on, furthermore you are not the person who is able to decide what useless or useful top kek goes to you my boy
@@acmecondorsrealm8357 irrelevant?? These tests cover practically every scenario possibly encountered while using these screwdrivers. The LTT only did poorly in one area, excluding limited bit retention because excessive bit retention is actually a negative.
It only lacks stability in lock setting. Too much slack. But it’s a ratcheting screwdriver, so it passes with flying colors.
im actually incredibly impressed with how well the guys at LTT made their screwdriver.
Thanks for the feedback.
I thought it would end up being maybe slightly better than average. Can't argue with results though bew my expectations out of the water. And I really like that knurling. Feels weird to buy what is essentially youtuber merch for my actual shop but maybe...
@@ProjectFarm Ratchet Back Drag is the key feature!
@@Stephan-wf1ec Linus' merch isn't really merch anymore tbh. I mean they literally have employees which rigorously test the products. However, obviously, ain't the best value as you're buying it to support someone.
@@kadrix732 All merchandise supports someone.
I don’t usually comment on videos but I’ve been watching your reviews for a few years (along with Linus) and my dad works for a fiber internet company working on servers and such and I saw this review and had to buy him the LTT screwdriver! I’m rewatching the video again with my dad as he was skeptical about giving up his Milwaukee and he’s excited now! Keep up the good work sir!
My buddy loves LTT, so when they came out with this he was all in saying "It's the best screwdriver on the market!"
All I heard was your voice "Let's test that." 😉
Thank you so much for putting that driver through the paces. Now he has data to back up his fanaticism... I'll never hear the end of it.
:D
Thank you very much!
now you can fire back with the PB Swiss being clearly superior
@@0x73V14 at 2X the price it better be!!!
@@0x73V14 It's not clearly superior. The LTT screwdriver outperforms it in many ways, and the PB Swiss doesn't have a bit holder.
Thanks to this video, I purchased two LTT screwdrivers, recommended the PB swiss to a mate, and convinced another mate to buy the megapro.
AND instantly subscribed and started binge watching every Project Farm video.
An invaluable service to our industries. Thank you so much.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
What screwdriver is best is absolutely dependent on the job. The best screwdriver for working on fine equipment that needs good torque control is not the same as the one that needs to put up with chemical splashes or one that needs to handle excessive torquing.
lol dream sub right here. He'll take it!
im still using a knife
I think in term of combined quality and bang for the buck, generally megapro is the best of all!
7:20 - Right-Left Passes for 360° with 50° span
7:26 - Tool weight (without bits)
7:37 - Tool weight (with bits)
9:45 - Ratchet Back Drag
11:23 - Shaft Wobble
12:59 - Rotational Slop (Locked)
15:53 - Bit Retention Strength
17:55 - Bit Failure
18:20 - 19:42 - Complete failure
19:42 - teardown
20:44 - Comparison Matrix
14:24: Bit magnetic strength
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm If you copy paste this into your video's description it will pop up on the timeline bar and also become searchable in google.
I liked this review a lot, especially in the set of use-oriented tests and including the bits. Even the best driver can be a fail if the bits are crap. There are a couple of problems I saw. One is that in some of the shaft deflection tests, it looks like the handle deflects in the vise because the vice doesn't grip it well. The other is the geometry of the test with the dial gauge. One of the shafts points slightly down from horizontal, which I think affects the accuracy of the measurement. Overall, best review I've seen so far. I would like to have seen the precision of the bits, especially phillips, in engaging the head of the screws. This is affected by the precision of the screw head, but still would be insteresting to see how it affects camming out and wear of the tip. My guess is that the bits that fractured will work better, but they might tend to strip out the heads more. Overall, great review. I also liked the review of bed liners. I used that one to decide which liner to buy.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
How about the part where he removed one of his own tests for the sole purpose of moving the ltt screwdriver to the top of the list, odd that you didn't mention that as a problem.
@@-opus Didn't notice that. I'll have to go back and watch it again.
@@-opus He gave an example of how you could modify the test to suit your needs, and yes, the one he chose did put LTT at the top, but it was also one that was in the top 2 or 3 of likely tests that most people would choose to remove as well. If you're going to try to act like something is a problem, at least bring something more substantial than "he told us we could do a thing and then gave an example that made a result that seemed mildly suspicious". And I don't even like LTT.
@@Omniverse0 Don't try to claim some form of objectivity at the end of your obviously agenda based statement. He did not "give an example", he deliberately removed a criteria for the sole purpose of modifying the results to move the ltt screwdriver to the top, that is not something that can be legitimately denied.
The most impressive part is LTT being only slightly behind first place, at half of the price. Which is still twice the third, but that means their product is likely to be a solid choice for a casual user that has a bit more to spend on tools - which I think would be significant part of their audience
Wait.. what? No? A "casual" user is well adviced to buy one of the cheapest options. They are all doing what they were designed for: Rotating screws in a circle. A 70$ screwdriver will outlive every casual user by far.
well and it has biult in bit storage for 12 bits where as first place has nothing of the sort. Great value
In the end you're also buying a piece of merchandise. Most casual users won't need a $70 screwdriver. However, if you're in the market for a screwdriver, want to support LTT AND you have $70 to spend, at least the quality will be worth that money.
@@tmicecave I disagree. There's always a case for more expensive tools, even for casual users. For one the tool should be fun to use. A shitty ratchet might do the job, but a good one will save you some frustration. Same with every other tool. I don't see how you can view a tool outliving you being a bad thing, when it's probably the best quality in a tool you could hope for. People should conciously combat throwaway culture, which is one of the main reasons our planet is so close to being irreversibly fucked. Things that are made to last are always favorable. Doesn't mean you have to spend 70 bucks on a screwdriver, of course, but the cheapest option should almost always be out of the question
Thanks for the feedback.
I was a little hesitant about the LTT driver. The price tag seemed high for a ratcheting driver. I get it now. It's a pretty good tool that can withstand a lot more damage than it's intended use will ever give it. The precision capabilities look great too.
It would be overcharging of this was only a relabeled big brand screwdriver. But, considering that they did put a LOT of design work into the screwdriver (three years or more!), and that they had to set up all the manufacturing, injection molding etc, I think that it's a reasonable price.
And indeed, most of the development time went into making the ratchet mechanism one of the best on the market (and the tests showed that this is where it shines).
I felt the same way, as soon as they said "zinc" I immediately expected it to break like all my old chinesium ratchets. This thing would outlast my hands.
The low backdrag to me is SO important for working on electronics. It's annoying when ratchets cannot actually ratchet without manual intervention on small fasteners you find in computers. Also the bit retention and fastener magnetic strength are extremely important. Without both of these, something like just putting in an M.2 SSD becomes terrifying as if you drop the screen and it slides under a cooler mount, or under the motherboard, you now have to spend hours taking apart the entire computer, reapplying thermal paste, etc; all because that fastener got away.
Personally I don’t think it’s worth it over the megapro since it’s based on it and performs just slightly better
It's clear there are 3 drivers in the roundup that are Megapro patent licensees. Both the Megapro and other licensee are half the price of the LTT driver. I like double-ended bits, so the Megapro appeals to me. $70 is a lot to spend for a screwdriver, and they *really* need to work on their locked performance so it feels like a regular screwdriver.
The amount and precision of testing is amazing, I'll bet most manufacturers don't even do this much testing. I am always impressed by your testing imagination and engineering skills to build the various test rigs. Thank you!
I would definitely agree that most probably do not, however I will say that LTT from what I understand, has done loads of testing, just in the design phase, to make sure they're putting something out there that's the best quality they can make while pricing it to be affordable. Now, I'm not saying that the LTT Screwdriver is "affordable" in the short term, but, in the long term, compared to other brands, the price is relatively close to what you would pay for 2 or 3 (including replacement) screwdrivers from other brands, which, if the LTT one ends up being something that will last more than 10 or 15 years, without problems, makes it worth it compared to what you will find in most hardware stores, as the ratcheting mechanisms usually don't feel good, or they lock up with a lot of use...
Another thing is, despite the warranty debate about LTT, on whether a paper warranty is as good as a verbal "if something is wrong hit up support and we'll fix it"(they did end up with actually adding a written warranty, although they're famous for their implied warranties) they always strive to have great customer support, even if it gets swamped considering how little staff they have in customer support, and you have to wait a while to get responses sometimes... Anything major that LTT does, they want it to be "the best it can be" or "the best ever" because being 2nd best isn't good enough for Linus Sebastian and his team, and if they can't innovate in an area, then they just don't bother trying... That's why the backpack and screwdriver cost so much, is all the research and development that HAD to be done to reach his level of quality...
Especially, the LTT one.
Thanks and you are welcome!
@@northwiebesick7136 But the cost effectiveness is kinda bad for the LTT screwdriver. It's a modified version of a megapro screwdriver with higher quality materials and great improvement in the less important areas, but for twice the price. So for people who use their screwdriver once or twice a month, it would be better to get a megapro screwdriver.
@@kuratse205 not saying it is or isn't, I'm just saying that I have used a few ratcheting screwdrivers that I have used once or twice a month and I have ended up having to replace them after 4 or 5 months and usually I don't even bother I just the next time I need one I buy one, but still, me having to buy one after like 4 or 5 uses of a 15 $20 one versus using one every day and having it last 10-15 years you have to admit that you know depending on what you're doing with it the cost-effectiveness is still there in the long run... Megapro is a good driver, and they're just down the street from the LTT headquarters, and the guys at megapro where the guys that Linus used for years for a driver, but all the same the reason it's so much more expensive is because of not just the building of it but the shipping of it to his Warehouse(s) and to all the other places it has to be shipped before then... It's not just air shipping that's gone up in price it's all kinds of shipping that has gone up in price, and being a smaller manufacturer and or seller he can't soak up the cost as much as someone who's making millions upon millions of them at a time
I love these tool reviews not just for the awesome tests and objective comparisons, but for introducing me to brands I didn't know existed! Like it's great to see the LTT driver did better than expected, but for my needs a Megapro might be more than enough.
Thank you!
The Megapro seems like the winner in my book, which includes a cost-to-performance ratio. I am just a home user after all. :)
I’m glad that it seems like LTT has delivered a really good screwdriver but the Megapro seems like the best bang for the buck.
The Megapro is an excellent value. The handle appears chunky and not very ergonomic. After using an older variant of the SnapOn for years where the ratcheting direction selector is reversed, I haven't been able to get used to any other ratcheting screwdriver. For how often I use a ratcheting screwdriver the LTT is worth every penny. If I only used one occasionally I'd definitely consider the Megapro instead.
For sure. You can see why Megapro was so willing to work closely with LTT. The LTT driver ends up being a Lexus to the Megapro Toyota.
@@DanKaschel Terrible analogy. You're saying it's expensive junk compared to junk.
I was thinking the Megapro looked great, until it was revealed that it has absolutely no magnetic pull whatsoever. That unfortunately killed it for me. The price was obviously MUCH nicer.
@@TehButterflyEffect Bad car take
There's no better tool and oil testing channel than this one. Great video!
Agree! I can hear the oil tester to be used again!
Thank you very much! It's definitely time for another oil review!
I had no concerns regarding LTT's claims to performance for their screwdriver, but this very well designed test only helps reinforce my purchasing decision. Its the right tool for me, now if only they'd make it in purple.
Just don't try to tighten anything too hard. Because the ratcheting mechanism was left out of the final results, testing ratcheting screwdrivers.
@@TheMijman I don't do anything that would require the torque to destroy that mechanism, and job dependent I would also have non ratcheting drivers.
@@TheMijman I mean, all of them broke at forces that you shouldn't be putting on any screwdriver let alone a ratcheting driver. If you need that kind of force you need an impact driver or something, not a hand tool.
@@TheMijman The actual result is double or triple what they announced for the specifications of ir.
@@TheMijman i gurantee you cannot put enough force on the ratchet to break any of the screwdrivers without using some leveraging force
This may be an odd suggestion but I go through socks in my work boots/at home very quickly. Not sure it would bw worth testing the durability of wool/cotton socks
Thanks for the suggestion.
Socks would be a good review. One brand I would like to see tossed in the test is Fox River socks.
@@ProjectFarm please do this i need to know the best socks!
Highly recommend Wigwam. Solid quality stuff that can hold up.
I want to see this one
This really helps understand the pricing on the LTT. They really did make a good tool. They designed it specifically for computer tech, but it looks like it is a great tool all around.
And because it was designed with Linus in mind, people with smaller hands will have no issues with it either.
agreed I bought mine a few days ago before seeing this. I would much much rather buy one single high quality item that will last me for decades, than a bunch of crap that breaks, supports toxic industry, and simply isnt nice to use.
sometimes, you pay for what you get
@@izakkcurtin probably LTT since that's the subject of discussion here
It is amazing that this review show LTT and PB swiss tool as top of the line, just with different optimization. Knowing what those tools are optimized for explains to me why some people love those tool and others think they don't work - it is just depending on use case and quality of the tool. A cheap screwdriver is still a screwdriver, but a cheap ratcheted screw driver is just cheap.
@@mndlessdrwer And will also be quite drop proof.
Fantastic review as always! It's great to see that the work that LTT claimed to put into the driver was all towards making a fantastic tool. Thanks for the insane turnaround time on this review, obviously a ton of people were waiting on it before making a purchase decision on the LTT.
Great point!
LTT is just like megapro but at twice the cost of megapro. megapro wins imo
@@lordjaashin megapro doesn't have a magnet though
@@lordjaashin LTT was never claiming to be the value king, you can get 80% of the LTT Screwdrivers performance for 50% of the price with the Megapro.
It's up to you if you want to spend double the money or not for that last 20%
@@shubhamthakur8530 in what world is addition of magnet justifies $34 price increase? lol
I've been watching PF and LTT for YEARS, when I heard there was a crossover I think it made my year. Thank you for reviewing!!!
Same here!
You are welcome!
No matter what the outcome of the test results are, the video always starts with me saying, "I would never buy one of those, but I am curious..." and by the end of the video, I feel compelled to do something with all of this vast consumer knowledge!
I love my megapro. The weight, balance in hand, superior bit storage, high quality bits make it the supreme choice for me. I haven't found anything that beats it overall. I wouldn't mind trying the ltt considering it's a collaboration with the megapro
A rotating tailend independent from handle is an overlooked feature for 2 handed use... The ltt and MP allows you to apply downward force at the end and than spin with second hand without the end creating friction against your palm. It's the ultimate to prevent the driver from camming out for really tough fasteners and damaging the heads.
Also, the storage is really nice and quick. Can't lose cap. Less juggling of bits when on a ladder or standing with no workspace to place anything on
Reasons I wouldn't purchase:
Klein: heavy
Snap on: heavy, only 2-5 bits depending on model, and storage mechanism allows easier loss of bits/cap and slow retrieval
Sata: heavy, slow bit retrieval, bits can all fall out
Pb Swiss: no onboard bit storage
Milwaukee: heavy, difficult bit retrieval
Wera: only 6 bits
Is ltt worth +$50 over megapro for:
Strong magnetic force, Allen bits, knurled shaft
Definitely if primary use case is frequent computer maintenance so that you're not dropping fasteners as much while beginning to screw. For mixed use cases... Not sure.
Thanks for the feedback.
Ordered mine over 2 weeks ago. Not heard a work back about my order status.
@@glock19gen3 what backorder wave are you in for tll? If you order one today.... It's not expected to ship until mid December.
I love the megapro also - but I have issues with the bits falling out while using. everything else is just about perfect for the junk drawer screwdriver in the house.
Don't forget that strong magnets kill hard drives etc..
You allways need to worry about how close your screwdriver is to a part thats sensative to magnets..
A weaker magnet is less risk than a stronger one..
The slop-when-locked issue worried me about the LTT screwdriver, but then I realized I use "locked" with my current no-name ratcheting driver only because the ratchet function is so bad... just ordered an LTT. Biggest thing for me is the magnet strength and bit quality, I've been breaking a LOT of bits, and dropping a lot of screws (usually into places they can't be recovered...) Hopefully the LTT solves those problems!
I personally do a lot of automotive interior work, and I also just ordered the LTT screwdriver after watching this video! Magnet strength is a huge deal for me, since I have lost bits in the center console of cars after they fell out, requiring me to go across the shop to find really long pliers to extract the bit from the top of the transmission tunnel! Huge deal if the bit doesn't fall out to begin with!!
I've used one at the pop up shop demo. It's pretty great.
Thanks for sharing.
@@xXRedTheDragonXx y'all should have a long magnetic tip flexible rod .
i think they also include a magnetic bit just for retrieving lost screws
Every time Todd tests a tool I want to buy: "Thanks for your service 🥳"
Every time Todd criticizes a crappy tool I already own: "How dare you 😱"
I bought a box cutter blade on recommendation from this channel and i now have a sizeable scar on my leg
12/10 would recommend.
Me every time he reviews a Makita power tool.
I view tools like photographers view cameras. "The best one is the one you have with you."
Until it breaks. Then buy a better one.
@@geotherapy I've always been a if the tools you have gets the job you have done then they're the best tools.
When he tests a type of tool that I don't own, or sometimes for tools that I do own, I'll make note of the tool brands with the best outcome and put those tools on my wish list for future purchases.
I have to speed up most product reviews and skip like 30%(50% in some cases) of the video just to get the info I wanted know.
This video, or rather this channel, on the other hand is so densely packed with ALL the info you want and need to know. You won't even skip 1 second of the video because you would miss something.
And it all ends with just a list of the products and their capabilities and you're on your own. After all that's how it always goes no matter how many recommendations you get, the decision all comes down to you as to what you'll pick.
Spending 20 minutes watching this is better than listening to a friend's recommendation for a minute or 5-10 minutes of researching the internet.
I'm really glad I've come across this channel.
Now most of the tools that I'll pick up will come from whatever this channel have already tested.
Big thanks! All of this are really appreciated!
Thanks so much!
Ive followed Linus and Project farm for years and years. However never would I expect to see a video where Todd was testing LTT creations ! LTT were not a tool designer / manufacturer yet here they've beat even well established tool companies. Linus, his family, business and employees are legendary and I genuinely wish them all the best.
While LTT is not a tool manufacturer, look at the cost difference between them and the common household brands. Their price would have to be cut in half at minimum to attract the general audience outside of TH-cam, knowledgeable hobbyists on TH-cam, or LTT's fans.
I am not discrediting them one bit, but if those big name tool brands had twice as much MSRP to play with, they too would be on a very similar or better level in terms of performance. I'm glad LTT made a product that stands out from the rest, and hopefully they roll in the dough, but $70 for a screwdriver is steep for most people.
@@PaftDunk Great points. Part of the cost for LTT has to come from smaller scales of economy that have to get factored into the cost, I'm sure you know this, but for others reading our comments just pointing that out
LTT worked with one of the other manufacturers also in this roundup
@@PaftDunk In terms of quality product, i cant deny their product is a good product, but with $70 for a screwdriver it is steep for most of people.
@@Tedster59 he is also banking on the fact his sheeple will buy one because it has his brand. no smart person would buy an overpriced screwdriver
I remember I first found this channel watching a 4 year old video about if car oil brands made a difference and 4 years after it was posted the guy was still replying to every comment thanking them for their feedback, I love this dudes channel I’m glad LTT got a review from him
Thanks! It was a pleasure doing the review.
I just wanna point out that this channel is possibly the most realistic and fair testing channel on TH-cam. Obviously we aren't sitting here watching millions of dollars of equipment or anything, but the attention to detail, the transparency with the tooling and with the products being tested. I have enjoyed this channel for years and I will
continue enjoying. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks and you are welcome!
@Mouseythegreat transparency tho.
@Hand Tool Reviews if you say so. I've enjoyed this channel and the content. Man's is allowed to have a preference. However the testing was performed as consistently as possible when possible. I think that in itself supports my original comment more than enough.
@Hand Tool Reviews how am I trolling? Was this not a comment section for opinions? Am I not allowed to defend mine?
@Hand Tool Reviews alright Mr big dick high and mighty, I hope you enjoy your evening!
This was the most dense and efficient delivery of information I've ever seen. I have no idea what else this channel is about (here from LTT) but I subscribed. Great content and no BS. I am HERE for it. Keep it up!
Thanks, will do! Thanks for watching and describing!
Came here by yt recommendations and dang; No BS, pure information, solid testing. For yt, this is a unicorn. Immediate sub.
All his videos are like this. That's what makes them great.
If I'm on the fence about an item I type the item name in the search bar followed by project farm... decision made in under 20min. Greatest TH-cam channel out here.
@@cognition26 This video is very different to all of his other videos, take a look at the thumbnail and title for starters, compare them to all of his other videos. This is an advert, not a review.
I was going to get the ltt but its backordered til February of next year and im impatient. I got the milwaukee 2pc set with stubby. It has a nice sound and weight
Thanks for sharing.
As a fan of both Linus Tech Tips, Project Farm, and as someone who already ordered their LTT Screwdriver...I'm so thrilled to see this video!
I love both your channels, their content, and the amazing work you all do! Also very thrilled to have a fantastic screwdriver for IT work!
For IT work I pull out an M18 high torque impact wrench with a 1/2" Philips #2 bit adaptor. The way I see it, rounded screws are security screws.
Watching this video should have showed you that you got grifted. You paid double for the same quality screw driver. I knew they would get some fan boy suckers.
I work in IT as well and no one I know uses ratcheting screw drivers, they just aren’t needed.
@@dcast777 they are if you're building 7 custom PCs a day. That's what these are for. Production work. Not IT.
@@drscopeify LMFAO!!!
Now I understand the price behind the LTT screwdriver. Definitely seems like it deserves it compared to the competition. Interesting to see how it's just kinda "Megapro but better" - which is a good thing.
Edit: I'm not saying it's not expensive, I'm saying it justifies that price. Sure, the $35 Megapro will get you most of the way there, but you're missing the magnet (actually a major thing) or if you go for one of the others then you're missing quality stuff like the very low backdrag. I'll be using my iFixit kit, but I don't think this driver is a bad idea.
Yep, they could have just got the Megapro but put LTT logo on it, but they wanted to improve on every aspect of it.. Since Megapro is already established their production costs are probably cheaper too so the price per screwdriver can come down. LTT has all new fabs that would have costs alot to get started, even with the help of an established brand.
@@VanSanProductions Yeah, if LTT had the production capabilities of Megapro I'm guessing it could have been a $49 screwdriver
same the price got me was interested in it tell i seen the price but now with the performance tested i can see its of a higher quality
I guess that’s one way of looking at it. But depends on what ur looking for. Get rid of the magnets and megapro does better on the final scorecard. But there’s benefits that weren’t reflected here.
Just buy a megapro and save 35$
I'd love to see a corrosion test round up. How well do various hand tools (wrenches, screw drivers, pliers, etc.) hold up to corrosion?
Thanks for the suggestion.
Leaning towards the Megapro after watching this. I’ve also heard great things about it from previous buyers
Thanks for the feedback.
I’ve had Megapro screwdrivers for over 20 years. I rarely use other screwdrivers. I broke a bit and Megapro sent me a replacement.
I've had a Wera for a long time, and am pretty fond of it. It was toward the top end of middling on these tests, but the grip is SUPER comfortable, which is worth a lot in and of itself.
I picked up the Wera because they were on sale for only 50 AUD which is 30 USD.
The megapro seems like a well performing tool with a considerably smaller price tag!
I have both the ratcheting mega pro and normal mega pro with more bits (I think that one has 24?), I've never been let down by either a single time. Affordable and very effective.
I'm actually gonna buy one based on this review. Price to performance I thought it won easy
FYI... The Channel Lock branded ratcheting screwdriver is the same. Just a different color and logo.
@@dontblameme6328 it's smaller and slightly better everywhere.
It would be nearly perfect except for the fact non magnetic bits =(
I'm so conditioned to look for them in hand tool tests, I was really hoping Wiha made a ratcheting screwdriver but at least we got to see a Wera. This is a great lineup, that Megapro was very impressive. I did very much miss you sharing the country of origin when introducing each tool.
Thanks for the feedback.
most of the tools are made in China, where the company is based really doesn't matter its almost all chinese made.
Some exceptions, PB swiss serializes their tools so you can search where they were built but for most of the major brands just assume its MIC
I have the screwdriver made by Wiha and marketed with Xiaomi. It's very good. And, if memory serves, it wasn't very expensive.
well its because everybody knows Wiha is great(for the most part), I'm from the butterfly knife community and i would say a good amount of us are in the Wiha camp, every squid industries maintenance kit contains a Wiha t10 screwdriver for example, ive bought their entire set of torx screwdrivers for the hobby as well and a good bit of others i would think can attest to Wihas quality, dont get me wrong, i wanna see them compared too but i feel like that i could predict the outcome
That's probably because they all came from the same country...
PB Swiss actually makes a version which includes a bit holder "PB 6510 R-100" I have it myself and really like it. It looks to be the same as the one you tested apart from the bit holder though, so I wouldn't expect it to make a big difference. Just wanted to point it out in case someone considers it but is put off by the lack of storage in the driver.
Thanks for the feedback.
It's always fun to see the testing rigs that are simple but make for consistent results
Thanks!
Amazing how different the Williams and SnapOn were. They take the same rebuild kit. I bought the Williams one and was beyond happy with the quality.
The Williams uses the same style ratcheting mechanism as the older style snap on, not the new one! I’d like to see how the hard handle snap on would compare, not this one that has a removable shank.
I somehow manged to lose my beloved Snap-on driver. I replaced it with a Williams, and always thought that it was eerily similar to the Snap-on,
but maybe a bit better than the Snap-on. Makes sense to me that they have the same ratcheting mechanism. Thanks, that's good to know.
SnapOn lives on a reputation they no longer deserve. About two decades ago they were great in the hand tools arena, now they are not even prosumer worthy, it's just cheap crap with a high price tag.
If you can't get and use the warranty of on site replacements SnapOn is not worth even half of what it costs.
@@michaelmay5453 I've definitely noticed that in these tool reviews, SnapOn has turned into overpriced junk for sure.
@@ryanclark8980 the Williams looks very, much like an older Snap On ratcheting screwdriver of mine. It's probably 30 years old. So your conclusion makes sense.
I love my PB Swiss, which also comes in a black handle that holds bits. LTT looks really good for the price. Thanks I love watching your reviews very informative.
144$ for the PB Swiss, it is very high.
Can you link where i could find one with the black handle?
I too have the PB Swiss version tested and also the black handled version with the bits in the handle. They preform by far the best I have ever used. And the bits they come with are also fantastic.
@@abolfazlsaravani2214 If you buy the PB Swiss with the bits separately, it is actually cheaper than the LTT screwdriver, which is why I’ve just ordered the PB Swiss^^
@@justjanne-de good point, thanks
It's interesting to note that the Megapro also comes in an "automotive" version, which uses 'standard' 1/4" bits (not the double ended ones) and also has a magnetic tip. To me, that's the one I'll be buying. Great review!
Holy shit, but is the rest of it the same?
We need a re-review, if the megapro improves it magnetic strength it could also improve bit rentention right?
@HTR how's he supposed to test it with no bits?
@HTR Yep and if you live in europe the 8510r100 without bits costs 55 euro plus tax.
@@cybyrd9615 Do you really need bit retention to be higher than 0.8kg/1.5lbs?
I'd like to see how easy it is to break the bit holder on all screwdrivers.
In one of LTT's recent live videos, 2 people broke the bit holder within a 2 hour period. Leaning on a screwdriver is a real world application to help get the screwdriver head to bite into a screw head, especially with cam-out screw heads like philips. So i'd like to see if LTT's screwdriver is on the softer side or in line with other bit screwdrivers. I only use regular screwdrivers where this obviously isn't an issue. I have been thinking about getting a quality bit screwdriver for when taking multiple screwdrivers isn't suitable.
this is why i LOVE this channel… no clickbait, no bs, just straight to the tool comparison. well done 🤝 also pleased to see my favorite tech channel made a really good product.
Thanks!
damn, those PB Swiss drivers are wild didn't expect it to keep such a solid lead. That being said, after watching all the work and passion that went into the LTT screwdriver I'm really glad to see it holding it's own and even leading in the categories that the team focused most on. Fantastic video as always!
it's also 2 - 7 times the price of nearly every other screw driver (minus the snap on and then it's $50 more)
@@ominith1 In My opinion megapro gives you the most bang for the buck
"all the work and passion" ...they rebranded and slightly modified another brands product, meanwhile Linus is basically suggesting that he invented screwdrivers.
@@-opus there was certainly a high level of work and passion
@@-opus All tires are not the same but we buy the one that performs well on the category that we need. Linus is open with his screwdriver journey and thanked mega pro for letting them use their screw driver and made it better.
Somehow PF always delivers the perfect review whenever I'm looking at obtaining a new product. Hitting it out of the park once in a blue moon is a coincidence, hitting it out of the park on a regular basis is a skill.
Thanks!
I’m ready to see you do this kind of testing on 3/8 ratchets and socket sets.
Thank you for the video idea!
I'd like to request Wright tools if you test 3/8" ratchets and to include if the ratchets are serviceable.
@@ProjectFarm please include proxxon
@@ProjectFarm socket sets that don't fall around in the hard case they come with!
It’s amazing how through you are on all of these tests!! I really don’t care about all of that, but you make it so entertaining and enjoyable to watch! I am pretty sure I have watch ALL of you videos and several of them I have watched many times! Thank you sir!!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Hey Todd, we use masonry drill bits a lot but over the years we've had them go from one bit lasting months to needing 2-4 bits per job. We'd love to see if there's a brand that will be durable enough to last us a reasonable time. Thanks!
hilti bits with the cross at the top. most masonry drill bits have 2 "hammers" at the top for drilling the hillti brand ones have four in a + shape they are amazing. last so so much longer than other brands. I used to use a new 8mm bit every time i built a fence onto a customers wall. I then bought hilti bits which ive used for at least 20 fences and they are still perfectly fine. so lasting at least twenty times longer
@@jguth6 you're right, hilti bits are the way
Working mostly with wood screws, I prefer Bosch bits for endurance at a reasonable price. If you decide to give them a try, remember that in most cases the smaller sets/boxes are cheaper per unit for this brand (I suspect they do so precisely because it's counter-intuitive). I for one don't see the point in paying more just for a fancy plastic container or a couple of extra tools that don't match the purpose of the main set.
Thanks for the suggestion.
No wonder all the bits I use to drill into brick just take 4-5 times as long after the first 3 holes
Good to see this test. I wasn't necessarily considering LTT's at $70, was impressed by the Megapro itself. But the Williams at half the price really spoke to me. Great magnet strength, low ratchet back drag... but I can see the value in the LTT for double that I wasn't sure about prior to this comparison. I'd be curious to see some long term durability since that thing is going to get tossed around.
The LTT has a lifetime warranty if im not mistaken
@@paradieshenne yeah but those shipping costs from Canada are murder.
No better drop test than Linus himself.
@@HaddaClu That's definitely true if you're only getting one thing, but for people who want to buy a few things between the screwdriver, a desk pad, a shirt, a water bottle, etc. the shipping cost becomes less of a factor in the overall price (by percent I mean)
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I bought a load of Megapro tools from a garage sale because they were cheap, and I just figured they were a cheapo brand because of that. I was very surprised with the build quality of the tools. Felt great in hand and seem very durable
I hope LTT paid handsomely for this promotional advertisement … the LTT branded tool is clearly a knock-off of the Mega-Pro … and only double the price.
@@brightymcbrightface you think this was a paid promotion? That's funny.
@@16vSciroccoboi Don't feed the troll. His mom will make him all the hot pockets he wants.
@@brightymcbrightface LTT literally teamed up with mega-pro to source the ratcheting mechanism, the company is just down the road from them. They just modified it a bit. Also i don't think you realise how illegal and expensive it gets when you fail to mention a video is a paid promotion. I think your just a bit emotional about the hype on a screwdriver lol.
@@brightymcbrightface LTT posted a whole video on all they went through to make their screw driver but you couldn't be bothered to do a little research before slandering a company. SMH
This review is great. I always come here to see where my “go to” is going to land in the rankings. Also, the comment “and the snap-on snapped off” made me chuckle.
Great content as always.
God Bless
Thanks!
Keep in mind that depending on where you live, the prices for the screw drivers will be different and as a Swiss citizen, i can get a PB Swiss with included bit holder (there exist such a version) which is cheaper then the LTT screwdriver (when you factor in delivery the prices are almost reversed for these two screw drivers for me locally).
Thanks for the feedback.
Indeed, although the PB Swiss tool is perfect for self-tapping, like in wood or sheet metal, while the LTT one low backdraft is better for metric screws. But yeah for "real work" the PB is better.
Yeah, as great as the LTT one might be, for European (Or anyone outside of Canada/Us) it's pretty much gonna be a no go
I`ve quickly checked it up, 70USD for the PB Swiss Tools PB 8510 R-100 here in switzerland
In my places you wont buy any of these. Just because for 20$ you can buy a chinese cordless drill/screwdriver.
If anyone on the planet ever asked me if I wanted to watch a test review with researched data on some wratcheting drivers. I would say why the hell would I want to watch that?
Yet here I am watching Project Farm doing it better than anyone ever could. I can't believe how interesting and exciting you made this out.
Thanks for the video my Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
You are welcome!
came for ltt, but love how thorough you test and review the tools, will definitely check out other videos of yours
You're in for a treat!
Awesome, thank you!
we’re going to test that 😏
I work in a shop where we love Wera tools but after watching this I wound up going for the MegaPro for our 5 workstations. I think brand loyalty can be valuable but it only gets you so far!
Thank you for sharing!
This man has singlehandedly destroyed entire companies, keep up the good work and don't ever sell out. I'm sure he gets millions of emails from companies offering money to not post these reviews.
Maybe he should sell out and retire in the Bahamas!
As someone who has worked for two of the largest tool brands and has friends at several others i can assure you that no this channel hasnt changed much in the industry and most companies are still chasing the almighty dollar over brand reputation. Its a shame.
@@dangrimes5078 😆I would 😉
Or the companies could prove themselves,
that they are not trying to “screw” people.
And actually improve their product based on the weaknesses project farm finds.
I will not be surprised that in the future I would see companies putting “improved”
Thanks to project farms.
Or “project farm tested”
They assume that 99% of people don't watch reviews for tools. Which is probably a good bet.
To me, back drag is the most important issue. Most of what I use screwdrivers for does not involve significant drag on the screws. If I ever need to replace my snap on (came in a package deal), looks like I’ll be looking up that LTT!
Thanks for sharing.
Yeh, that is something I didn't think about until it was tested here, and then I realized that is the biggest gripe I have with ratcheting drivers.
Most important issue for me on these ratcheting screwdrivers is the diameter of the adapter end. If you can't reach a screw deep in a recessed hole, like on many electronic components, then it's useless (until you dig out and install a longer tip from another screwdriver, if you have one).
also consider the rolgear screwdriver. I'd be surprised if it doesn't have less back drag than even the LTT one.
@@Wooble57, came in here to recommend RolGear drivers.
That mega pro lookin pretty dang good!
I can see why LTT partnered with them, and its interesting to see the differences.
If only they had a good magnet in there
@@DontFollowZim I was about to order the megapro because of the smaller price tag but good performance but non magnetic bits is a deal beaker for me.
@@TRD_Kyle can’t you magnetize them yourself?
@@TRD_Kyle just a heads up megapro makes a magnetic version of their driver with 12 bits called the automotive version. Idk why everyone always seems to compare this version instead.
a megapro product with LTT written on it
Very interesting how tech channels dip into tooling, and even more interesting when they keep up with very well established competitors! Gamers Nexus also offers (non-ratcheting) screwdrivers which seem very high quality, would be great to see their stuff included someday, wonder how they'd fare. When you're using daily the things you're making and you're not in the game primarily for money, it probably gives a good edge in developing really good tools (although at a higher price point).
My family has had an cheap ratcheting screwdriver for years and I always wondered how people were able to just quickly unscrew/screw things because our screwdriver just wouldn't easily do that without help from us. Didn't realize that it just had super high back drag. Thanks for the informative video!
Same got a cheap £6 ratchet and don't even use the ratchet becuase it's not worth it
You are welcome!
A unique feature of the Milwaukee is that the entire shaft is replaced, instead of just the bit tip. This makes it able to reach down narrower shafts, which is an important feature for me. It reminds me of a ratcheting Xcelite I used to own. (All ratchets will fail in time. The non-ratcheting Xcelites are still going very strong. No way to mangle those tips.)
Very true - one of my biggest annoyances with bit drivers is that they always have a larger dia than a regular screwdriver shaft which can prevent using them on recessed fasteners. I'm surprised nobody else has commented on this.
Exactly this!
I found it super helpful as well.
I agree. I had the Milwaukee for many years. The bits started wearing and the shaft started to wobble too much so I replaced it with the Workpro from Amazon. I actually like it better and price is better. Also, I know they are rated 0 here, but with the long bits you can very easily run a magnet along them a few times and magnetize them lasting for months. I think the Milwaukee and now Workpro are the best designs.
I like the replacement shaft style as well or at least as an option. The Milwaukee looks terrible ergonomically.
This is amazing. I'd love to see a series of famous TH-camr's products vs competition.
Thank you!! I'm up for it. Please let me now which products you'd like tested!
@@ProjectFarm clothing would be interesting, see durability, stretching and color fade
@@ProjectFarm EEVBlog 121GV multimeter
@@ProjectFarm I second the clothing suggestion. There're a lot of TH-camrs selling shirts now, and I'd really like to see which are worth the money
@@kevinpacheco8169 clothing is tough as most creators get stuff printed on other people's blanks instead of making their own. Then, even if they make their own blanks they still aren't the loom.
I’ve owned the Megapro for several years. It’s probably my most used tool, ant it still works great. It’s a great value.
Thanks for sharing.
You are still the best reviewer of hardware tools the internet has ever seen.
I have been looking forward to this review to see how the LTT screw driver holds up. I bought the Milwaukee as the long bits mean that I can access deeply recessed screws, that is most common on appliances with plastic housing.
Keep up the impressive work.
Many thanks, Anton.
That's why I have a Whia System4 with S4/PH1 and System6 with S6/PH2 that covers 99% of what I need from a screwdriver in the data centre. For those not familiar with System4/6 the whole blade comes out of the handle and is double-ended. Consequently, there are no problems getting into recessed areas. I have the old precision System4 handle and a more modern soft grip System6 handle.
Why do you think he left the ratchetting results out of the final rankings? Of ratchet screwdrivers?
Seemed important to me
Thanks, will do!
This makes me feel pretty good about what I’ve invested in Wera. Though, props to LTT for what they put together. Some of these companies should be ashamed at their performance vs a team who’s development budget probably couldn’t remodel their corporate waiting rooms.
Thanks for sharing.
Linus said they spent hundreds of thousands on this thing, and it was based on an existing design.
@@Just4Games2011 and a high end corporate room remodel/funiture can easily cost multiple hundred thousands. So Mike's statement sounds true to me :D
@@Just4Games2011 based on megapro's design just very slight modifications
@@danp7174 "Very slight modifications" - they made a video about all the shit they went through for this screwdriver; you should watch it
The tests I care about LTT came 1, 1, 1 and 2 which is great since I bought it. I don't care that my screwdriver cant pick up 2kg but thats very impressive and I don't care about locked usage. Awesome video.
Thanks!
If the bit retention magnet is too strong your hands cant even get the bit out of the thing without trouble. as its a computer building screwdriver there's not that many heavy things to pick up in a computer.
@@nekoroms Losing a screw inside a pc when you don’t have extras stinks. So Linus demanded an extra strong magnet
@@orderlyhippo1569 yeah and thats what the magnet is designed for :) not lifting engine blocks :D
@@nekoroms oh my bad. You were talking about the "bit retention" magnet
This was a great review, but one advantage you didn't point out on the Milwaukee driver is that the long bits work great for sunken screws. That was my deciding factor when purchasing this one. Don't know how many times I've pulled out the old multi driver to have the bit fit in the hole, but the shank is too big to reach the sunken screw.
I was thinking the same thing. That's a strong advantage for a ratcheting screwdriver to have. Wera makes a similar model with the long bits and that was the deciding factor for me.
Been waiting for this to drop since Friday! Long time viewer / subscriber before you got the LTT screwdriver though. Keep making great content!
Thank you very much!
Looks like the three years of development paid off for the LTT screwdriver! Really liked your breakdown between the mega pro and the LTT driver to show the difference!
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
"The Snap-On comes with two bits"
Damn near fell out of my seat laughing. That company needs to get itself together.
Yeah kind of sad, they're just riding out the dead husk of their former glory. Maybe theyll stock up these cheesy profits for a new era of development? Doubtful.
As the older/elderly generation that continues to buy their shit with pension checks because of the brand name dies out, they will feel the impact on their profits more and more. These tests are kind of extreme, but for general use you can easily get away with even a cheapo 5 dollar exchangeable bit screwdriver from harbor freight. Want it to be magnetized? Slap a 3 dollar bar magnet on it. But I do understand the appeal of having a 'nice' tool, LTT def wins.
@@akustaka People buy snap-on for the lifetime no questions asked warranty but they are not the best for sure.
@@akustaka You can magnetise any bit/screw driver by looping over a strong neodymium magnet e.g. HDD magnet pull.
They really took pride in their strength-to-weight ratio, so they threw the extra weight overboard.