Man, 08th ms team...what a dreamscape of amazingly smooth animation (from the way the parachute pack is ejected to the ez 8 vs gouf custom battle) and grounded realism that kept me hooked and reminds me of a bygone Era of anime we will never see again. Thanks for keeping the interest in the classic gundam series alive. Long live OG universal century.
@@richmcgee434 you are correct sir. American animation was once a force to be reckoned with (rotoscoping included) up until the cheap production that took place with third party animators from Korea.
@@robeyhairston3298 I would say the decline in US animation started much earlier than that, and had less to do with Korea than with the corner-cutting at Hanna-Barbera and outsourcing to Mexican studios - although in both cases, there were occasional gems despite the drop in visual quality. For ex, Jonny Quest is well drawn but cheaply animated and relies on the strength of its imaginative plots, and as hideous as it is Bullwinkle is so well written with so much wry humor it's hard to really fault it for its bottom of the barrel animation. The vast majority of cartoons lack the creativity and writing chops to prop up the kind of shoddy animation that started to appear regularly in the 60s, though.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming Not really. It’s by far the most flawed of the three. And it has Nina which is actually awful. But it is a good show. It’s just half baked from a plot point.
Watched this as a 12 year old when it premiered on toonami's midnight run. I still reflect happily on this period of my life. It was prior to the 9/11 attack, subsequent recession and failed war on terror.
Yup 👍🏿 I did too! But I was a little older than you! I was in high school! It left a such an impression on me. In the end they found him his living his life!
well now im starting to understand the nostalgia a lot of oldheads have with this series. I never knew it aired on toonami. When i first started getting into UC this show was constantly recommended as it's pretty detached from the main tomino entries, and when i saw it i was pretty disappointed, it wasnt bad but I'd seen thunderbolt and hathaway prior to watching 08th and those 2 blew my mind, i was expecting at least a fraction of that going into this. If i'd seen this as a kid i probably wouldve loved it dearly as well. All i got as a kid were wing, G, and seed, and man those three were WACK[Y].
My favorite Gundam series. It made mobile suits seem both incredibly important and surprisingly expendable simultaneously. When the goal of the enemy is to destroy three guntanks, it makes them seem important. However, seeing them cannibalize and thrown away also emphasis that they're just machines.
Easily one of my favorite Gundam series. Short, gorgeous, simple and to the point. The fact that you could remove the last episode and lose nothing is a testament to how solid the show is; it doesn't even *need* that many episodes.
My favorite Gundam series. People like to complain that the love story aspect is undercooked, but I think that's mitigated by the fact that Shiro and Aina are both so likeable and you're actually rooting for them to be together, unlike say... Kou and Nina. And it's not a bizarre relationship like Heero and Relena either. It just lacked the time devoted to a couple like Domon and Rain, but still manages to feel earned.
To this day this still stands as my favorite Gundam series, some of the other shows have been great in terms of big scope wars and end games but what stands out to me about the 08th MS Team is the grounded approach and view point of the common ground soldier, the battle sequences are great for its time as well.
The 12th episode is supposed to be a farewell to the series original director who passed away mid production. That's why it has this "afterlife" vibe to it with the whole ambiguity on whether the kids were alive or not (and the corpse resembling Aina) and why it has a metaphorical tone in comparison to the rest of the series.
Just found your channel and was disappointed there wasn't a video for 8th Ms team(my favorite series of the era) but I'm glad that was remedied very quickly
I've been burning through your gundam retrospectives for the past three days, having just found the channel. What can I say? You basically made a series that I have never really cared about come to life for me in a vivid way, and the passion you have for it is absolutely contagious. I always thought gundam was just Japanese Transformers lol, and I am very grateful to have that view corrected. Looking forward to whatever you want to share with us from now on, you've more than earned my sub and my respect!
I've always love the design of the Ez-8, the extra armor plating on the chest always made me feel like the suit was more tanky. I even still have one of the figures from when the show was still new, the version that actually came with that "backpack" for all the extra gear/weapons that was usable.
Very well done! 08th MS Team is easily my favorite UC Gundam. Everything about it just feels right, and I would love to see another show done the same way in UC. Side note, the Master Grade Ground Gundam needs a 2.0!
Thank you! YT did not notify of the Super Thanks and the studio is hot garbage when it comes to finding it so I meant to respond sooner. Very appreciated.
This is the 3rd or 4th time I watch this video, I can honestly say that 8th MS team is one of the best overall Gundam OVAs I've ever watched. If you really are going to get a Ez8, I would suggest getting the HGUC from 2013. The MG from 2000 isn't worth getting simply because of the types of plastic used. It will look great, but it will suffer a lot of sagging and falling apart over time. I just wish Bandai released a revive version of the Ez8 like they did of the Ground Gundam back in 2018. Honestly, these retrospectives have reignited my love of Gundam. I have a back log off 15 kits and I finally want to actually build a kit for the first time in years! Thank you so much and keep up the great work.
I've been rewatching this while introducing my buddy to the world of Gundam. This one is still my favorite series. The grit and believability here is unmatched and one of the few series aside from Zeta that stays consistently good despite the creator passing halfway through.
20:30 I was invested till I heard the Hangar theme from FM5: Scars of War. Holy shit, it feels so good to know that there are people who recognize the game!
I love when you say “this is fucking gundam and everything is spelled in terrible ways that make absolute no fucking sense, so shut up” lolololol also loved this video!
That Gouf fight was definitely amazing. The Oil/Blood Stab was my fave moment for sure. Im enjoying your walk through of the franchise even tho we differ on some things. Respect!
I definitely concur, but after watching it multiple times; I can't help but I think that's the only reason Norris and his gouf custom ultimately succeeded the way that he did had more to do with the 08th Mobile Suit team's incompetence then the fact that he was supposed to be a badass ace. I mean think about it; Shinzo and his team we're in Gundams welding beam weaponry and had superior numbers. Had they actally bothered to use any tactics that took advantage of any of that, Norris would have been finished the moment they got a beat on them, or hell just have Shinzo engage in with the beam saber from the get-go. Of course, we all saw how that ultimately ended for Norris.
@Trealos Gaming , Even if that were true, nothing beats a gundam 1 on 1; not without the help of dirty tactics anyway. Plus, the command truck had a beat Norris at all times, so at least they could have coordinated their attacks way better than they did.
@@BloodDracolich that is true. But he was also using tactics to get the chances to kill the tanks. And the 8th MS team shows that gundams really arent all that strong. Which is great
08th MS Team is my favorite mecha. While the romance subplot was merely, "okay," the gritty realism and attention to detail really sets the series apart. The mobile suits move and react like you'd expect giant armored machines to because of physics. They suffer wear, tear and lasting damage as real equipment would - with jury-rigged replacements as one might expect in a war. The protagonists aren't invincible, insurmountably better pilots, or in dramatically better mechs than their foes. And there's no New Type, geass, etc. magic.
The 08th MS Team is to Gundam what HALO: ODST is to HALO, no "supersoldier single-handedly changes the course of war" bullshit, just mere mortals with pure grit and team determination.
Absolutely fantastic! And yea I totally agree with the last episode being a bit of a missed step especially with the newtype kids but I do appreciate that they gave them a nod of sorts. Its a subject gundam always flirts with but the trauma and abuse of the newtype testing programs really only shows itself in damaged people rather than really go through the horrors outside some of the Zeta's and Unicorn which gave it a little more "love". I also feel at least in some way it was to help tie in some of the side stories as well. One big one being Blue Destiny's Manga series. The Exam system (that alot of later newtype systems like the Psycho gundam and NTD were based on) was put into a gundam ground unit. The 'heart' behind that program was Marion Welch, who was never really talked about in the episode but was the blue haired girl sick and then buried. The exact blue hair color and style really pointed it to being her which was kind of a way to tie up that story too. Fantastic to see you visit this one and absolutely loved it! I also had no idea the director died mid production. ._.
This series was an amazing series. It, as you said, showed soldier life and gave us amazing suits. It is my all time favorite series because it shows us that the Gundams are not invincible given a nameless grunt beheads and disables one in practically a weak suit. Then the shot in the leg from a tank that disables it. Overall was amazing
Another fantastic video man, keep up the amazing the work! I recently got into Gundam, and your videos have been really helpful to review the strengths and weaknesses of each series. 08th MS Team is undoubtedly one of my favorites so far.
You did really well these retrospective videos feel like the book reports I used to give in middle school where you pretty much end up play-by-playing the whole thing and the teacher cuts you off after 20min of standing up in front of the class and babbling.
The ground type Gundam is honestly my favorite design because of the simplicity. No crazy thrusters, no gimmicks, just a tanky Gundam suit built like a tank.
16:47 It's not in Mayfly of Space I think, that has the gassing done with cannisters on the hull similar to Zeta, but there's a cutscene I think from a game that shows that the Zaku 1 in Shiro's origin is indeed piloted by Cima Garahu from 0083, and she's freaking out that she was told it was sleeping or tear gas.
@@veryorignalname4804 Oh sweet do you know where I can grab it? I know some other vids that use it in a clip but a vid of just that would be really great.
This and Stardust Memory are actually two of my faves. Top 3 is rounded off by Zeta. I think "realism" fits Gundam perfectly. And the two have some of my favorite mechs and animation.
I totally agree with you, 1st zeta, 2nd Stardust memory and 3nd this, even though the first mobile suit Gundam and after war Gundam X come after very near with them.
08 MS team is peak Gundam/OYW content. All the little details are great, the weight to the mobile suit movements, the need for repairs, the zaku using a federation shield and the guns actually needing to be reloaded...perfection
I wasn't able to get the models from this series but I had one of the action figures and it was my favorite it had the weapons case that the cannon would break down into, the machine gun had a detachable magazine and a folding stock then to see that level of detail in the OVA was mindblowing
I think the reason that I like the 08th MS Team is bc it was the first show that really made it feel like our main cast was fighting in regular military hardware. The gundams weren’t special, one-of-a-kind, super weapons whose specs outclassed anything used by either side. They were just stock models. If one broke down, you’d just hop in another one. They had to use tactics and be cunning to use their numbers to their advantage. If they got in a head-on-head battle with a group of Zakus there’s no guarantee that they’d come out on top just because they were using gundams.
My absolute fav series in Gundam. I feel like on Toonami stopped at ep 11 and i found 12 years later as like a movie or something. Amazing fight scenes. Found you cause of 0083 stayed for 08th MS team. Great job my friend.
It’s criminal how underrated and unwatched this OVA is. I can’t tell how many anime fans I talk to that have never watched or even heard of this great addition to the franchise. Def one of my favorites of the gundam universe and even anime in general
definitely one of my favorite Gundam series right behind the Origin, 0079, zeta and war in the pocket. i honestly think it should've been slightly longer especially to flesh out more Aina and Shiro's relationship
I just started watching this show again today, and literally checked to see if you had a review yet, mere minutes before you uploaded 😆 Love your Gundam Retrospectives!
This is the perfect place for me to write this.. 08th MS Team is not only one of the very best Gundam Series, its also one of the most underrated animes of all time. I have yet to be as impressed with any animation as the immense awe I felt when watch the EZ8 fight Goof. If I ever find myself in a situation where I want to show someone how good anime is I show them that fight.
O8th MS Team is one of my favorites. I love the parallels between the EZ8 and the Sherman Tank. Definitely the most grounded series of the Universe. Also, nice touch with the Front Mission 4 remix! I heard it, and immediately went back to my PS2 days.
I have to respect 8th MS Team for having such grittiness so rarely seen in other Gundam media. Grunts duking it out, no specials beam or funnel spamming to win the day, just good ol' fashioned teamwork and ingenuity. I must admit to thinking that the overall message gets muddled in the second half when the love story comes around. I also never understood the "both sides being bad" as a criticism for this and Unicorn, I mean, have you seen UC as a whole? Tomorrow's enemies become today's allies but Anaheim will still keep selling to everyone. It's so close to being a favorite of mine but I can see why others like it. Looking forward to the Gundam X review, truly underrated and my personal favorite AC by far.
@@nicodalusong149 I didn't expect to like it as much as I did, until I realized After War is Universal Century for people who don't like how Universal Century turned out.
@@jl8060 Yes, that's part of what I like about it and why I suggest it as a starting show because it has enough UC and AU in it that is a really good to branch out from. Also, Tiffa is best girl.
@@nicodalusong149 It's got enough leverage for being an alternate UC for it to work, yeah. I'd say that some familiarization with UC would enhance the effect, especially if they don't like how UC continually gets darker and dreary with each passing year. Tiffa is definitely an interesting character, and her and Garrod's romance is one of the few romances in Gundam that work for sure.
Something I greatly appreciate about 8th MS Team is that it never goes into the two-class system with super suits and grunts essentially forming seperate battlefields since the latter have no chance what-so-ever against the former and get mowed down by the dozen if they try. Here a Gundam is just a slightly better suit, but by no means undefeatable. A simple Zaku can still crack them if the pilot is just better or luckier than the Gundam one's. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with those things existing and Unicorn and Thunderbolt for example are awesome in their own right, but it's refreshing that we can get both kinds of series. After all even the very first MS Gundam series at least started out with the Gundam being vulnerable to regular Zakus too and being put on the backfoot by aces or numbers of regular suits several times before Amuro's essentially superpowers kick in. I can't say it is my sole all time favourite Gundam series, since that changes with my mood, but it's definitely among the group at the very top.
I loved how grounded and realistic 08th MS Team feels. I also liked the detail of Norris being a complete badass because as an Ace Pilot, if he was to be pitted against a Newtype like Amuro, he would get decimated. But in a real fight with no advantages other than raw skill, this shows that even the best of the best pilots couldn't keep up with all the other Newtypes but would stomp regular soldiers in the same way someone like Kamille would in the Z Gundam.
Two of my favorite series 08th MS team along with 0080 War in the Pocket are often referred as the best entry into Gundam if u don't start with 0079 and to this day 08th MS team is the most realistic series in the franchise by far(probably besides the scene where Shiro dodged a fallen Zaku's two close ranged machine gun shots without being affected by the shock waves)
The RX-79 [G] always felt more like a new limited production series mobile suit than a cobbling of whatever parts were left over from the V Project. The cockpit of the 79 is located in the upper torso while the 78's cockpit is located mid torso. The beam sabers of the 79 are stored in a leg compartment as opposed to the backpack of the 78. The 79 id also built like they were never intended to use the Core Block System like the 3 V project suits.
Bit of both, I would say. The ground type GM is likely a new limited production series, and the RX-79 [G] is likely a spin-off that is essentially the gundam version of a GM-79 [G], based on how the GM was a (co) development of the Gundam, with the actual leftovers of the RX-78 project. In all ways, it is more of a suped-up GM-79 [G], than an RX-78.
08th ms team is my favorite Gundam series for all of its' merits, Stardust Memory is my favorite by nostalgia as it was one of the first DVDs I ever owned... And your right, the romance is done so much better in 08
Loving the gundam videos...cant wait for the new gundam series to drop...iv re watched all the gundam series I can find on streaming so many times wishing a new series would drop and now we are so close
Thank you ! well done video on this version of Gundam! I grew up watching this in the early 2000s and really like this perspective of Gundam instead of super hero-like characters
Just discovered your channel, dude. Fantastic content. 08th MS Team and 0083 are my favorite Gundam series’ due to their grounded, realistic outlook on the One Year War and it’s aftermath. No space wizards, just enlisted and commissioned troops hating war but fighting it anyway. The animation style in both shows are incredible. Keep up the great work, man.
this has to be the most underrated mobile suit anime of all time, I honestly prefer the one year war to everything else, just love how grounded the combat was and the story of the main character. episode 6 battle line on the burning sand was my fav episode and also episode 7 you get the flashback to the incident that happened on side 2 colony, super good, highly recommend this on hulu.
My entry into the series was seeing the shelves full of Gundam models as a kid at my cousins place, I then started watching the OG 79 Show and then later enthralled by Wing/War in the pocket.. everything. Lol Always love when MSV gets some love.
This is by far, one of the best Gundam offerings in the series, Gundam 0083 and Gundam 0080 war in the pocket. Also love Gundam Unicorn and Iron Blooded Orphans.
08th MS team is my favourite UC show, and even tho my first Gundam, Gundam 00, is still top of my list, I think this half season length show is so well done that it takes second. I enjoyed IBO, I loved Gundam X, I've seen a bunch of others with their multiple seasons and plenty of content and tons of Mobile Suits and mid show upgrades, but 08th MS Team just condenses it perfectly for me.
Watching this coming after my first Gundam series Iron Blooded Orphans. And I have to say I loved it! Looking forward to more Gundam but at the same time I feel the bar has been set so high with both these incredible shows!
what i also like about the foot scene is that Shiro almost straight up gets crushed in it because of a simple mistake. like its simply just that easy to die
I love that the EZ8's design is based off on the fly modifications. It's abrasive looking just like the M2 Stinger. In lore they were strapped for supplies so they yoinked two zaku 2 shoulder shields and welded them for the chest piece. They took out multi-launchers, vulcan guns, cameras, etc. They had to add extra padding because the armor being used was weaker than the usual titanium so it's really blocky looking.
One of my fav mecha animes because:
1. No Child pilot (no really)
2. Gundams are realistic machines
3. Good plot
4. cute romance
Man, 08th ms team...what a dreamscape of amazingly smooth animation (from the way the parachute pack is ejected to the ez 8 vs gouf custom battle) and grounded realism that kept me hooked and reminds me of a bygone Era of anime we will never see again. Thanks for keeping the interest in the classic gundam series alive. Long live OG universal century.
Can't argue with that. This was the show that introduced me to the whole franchise, and still holds up well today.
@@richmcgee434 hand drawn animation is timeless.
@@robeyhairston3298 Absolutely, and not just in anime. Fleischer Studios work is evergeen.
@@richmcgee434 you are correct sir. American animation was once a force to be reckoned with (rotoscoping included) up until the cheap production that took place with third party animators from Korea.
@@robeyhairston3298 I would say the decline in US animation started much earlier than that, and had less to do with Korea than with the corner-cutting at Hanna-Barbera and outsourcing to Mexican studios - although in both cases, there were occasional gems despite the drop in visual quality. For ex, Jonny Quest is well drawn but cheaply animated and relies on the strength of its imaginative plots, and as hideous as it is Bullwinkle is so well written with so much wry humor it's hard to really fault it for its bottom of the barrel animation.
The vast majority of cartoons lack the creativity and writing chops to prop up the kind of shoddy animation that started to appear regularly in the 60s, though.
Gundam the 08th MS Team is an absolute masterpiece... This including both 0080 and 0083 make up the great 90's UC trilogy aimed at adults.
The holy trinity of Gundam.
Ah I see you are a person of culture as well, this is definitely the best of Gundam
0083 is awful though…
@@DeltaAssaultGaming You're awful.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming
Not really.
It’s by far the most flawed of the three. And it has Nina which is actually awful.
But it is a good show. It’s just half baked from a plot point.
Watched this as a 12 year old when it premiered on toonami's midnight run. I still reflect happily on this period of my life. It was prior to the 9/11 attack, subsequent recession and failed war on terror.
Yup 👍🏿 I did too! But I was a little older than you! I was in high school! It left a such an impression on me. In the end they found him his living his life!
well now im starting to understand the nostalgia a lot of oldheads have with this series. I never knew it aired on toonami. When i first started getting into UC this show was constantly recommended as it's pretty detached from the main tomino entries, and when i saw it i was pretty disappointed, it wasnt bad but I'd seen thunderbolt and hathaway prior to watching 08th and those 2 blew my mind, i was expecting at least a fraction of that going into this. If i'd seen this as a kid i probably wouldve loved it dearly as well. All i got as a kid were wing, G, and seed, and man those three were WACK[Y].
Now go watch the uncut version
same
You can’t reflect happily on your life after 9/11?
My favorite Gundam series.
It made mobile suits seem both incredibly important and surprisingly expendable simultaneously.
When the goal of the enemy is to destroy three guntanks, it makes them seem important.
However, seeing them cannibalize and thrown away also emphasis that they're just machines.
Easily one of my favorite Gundam series. Short, gorgeous, simple and to the point. The fact that you could remove the last episode and lose nothing is a testament to how solid the show is; it doesn't even *need* that many episodes.
My favorite Gundam series. People like to complain that the love story aspect is undercooked, but I think that's mitigated by the fact that Shiro and Aina are both so likeable and you're actually rooting for them to be together, unlike say... Kou and Nina. And it's not a bizarre relationship like Heero and Relena either. It just lacked the time devoted to a couple like Domon and Rain, but still manages to feel earned.
I wished one of them died. Make it more sad.
Nah Shiro and Aina are kinda terrible. Love Aina's brother tho, he deserved better.
Releena to this day remains creepy to me.
Dorothy best girl.
Koi and Nina gives me heart ache almost 20 years after first watching that 0083 😭😭
I call that one Gundam NTR
This is my favorite Gundam series, and the best version of "Romeo and Juliet"
Eh, I prefer West Side Story.
Shiro and Aina are a much more conventional Romeo and Juliet which is a relief.
To this day this still stands as my favorite Gundam series, some of the other shows have been great in terms of big scope wars and end games but what stands out to me about the 08th MS Team is the grounded approach and view point of the common ground soldier, the battle sequences are great for its time as well.
It’s a good day when this account uploads, love the Gundam retrospectives!
A solid series that managed to complete a vision even with the director passing
The 12th episode is supposed to be a farewell to the series original director who passed away mid production. That's why it has this "afterlife" vibe to it with the whole ambiguity on whether the kids were alive or not (and the corpse resembling Aina) and why it has a metaphorical tone in comparison to the rest of the series.
That music at that start I first heard in Zeonic front. My personal favorite gundam game. What a throw back that was for me!
Just found your channel and was disappointed there wasn't a video for 8th Ms team(my favorite series of the era) but I'm glad that was remedied very quickly
I've been burning through your gundam retrospectives for the past three days, having just found the channel. What can I say? You basically made a series that I have never really cared about come to life for me in a vivid way, and the passion you have for it is absolutely contagious. I always thought gundam was just Japanese Transformers lol, and I am very grateful to have that view corrected. Looking forward to whatever you want to share with us from now on, you've more than earned my sub and my respect!
THank you! I really love the series and I'm glad that carried over into the videos!
I've always love the design of the Ez-8, the extra armor plating on the chest always made me feel like the suit was more tanky. I even still have one of the figures from when the show was still new, the version that actually came with that "backpack" for all the extra gear/weapons that was usable.
I remember my parents bought me the same one around when I was in middle school along with the GM sniper and the GP02 from Stardust Memory
I have that same figure!!! It was so much fun putting the weapons together and trying to fit them back in the pack
Loving the Waterworld Map music. Keep using it, it's so good.
Very well done! 08th MS Team is easily my favorite UC Gundam. Everything about it just feels right, and I would love to see another show done the same way in UC.
Side note, the Master Grade Ground Gundam needs a 2.0!
So does the Ez-8 and MS08-B3
Thanks!
Thank you! YT did not notify of the Super Thanks and the studio is hot garbage when it comes to finding it so I meant to respond sooner. Very appreciated.
This is the 3rd or 4th time I watch this video, I can honestly say that 8th MS team is one of the best overall Gundam OVAs I've ever watched.
If you really are going to get a Ez8, I would suggest getting the HGUC from 2013. The MG from 2000 isn't worth getting simply because of the types of plastic used. It will look great, but it will suffer a lot of sagging and falling apart over time. I just wish Bandai released a revive version of the Ez8 like they did of the Ground Gundam back in 2018.
Honestly, these retrospectives have reignited my love of Gundam. I have a back log off 15 kits and I finally want to actually build a kit for the first time in years! Thank you so much and keep up the great work.
08th MS Team Simply the best for me. everything was perfect! thanks for cover it up.
I've been rewatching this while introducing my buddy to the world of Gundam.
This one is still my favorite series. The grit and believability here is unmatched and one of the few series aside from Zeta that stays consistently good despite the creator passing halfway through.
Yes! Keep these videos coming dude. I live for them right now.
20:30 I was invested till I heard the Hangar theme from FM5: Scars of War. Holy shit, it feels so good to know that there are people who recognize the game!
I love when you say “this is fucking gundam and everything is spelled in terrible ways that make absolute no fucking sense, so shut up” lolololol also loved this video!
I've been so excited for this! 08th MS team brings the nostalgia for sure
That Gouf fight was definitely amazing. The Oil/Blood Stab was my fave moment for sure. Im enjoying your walk through of the franchise even tho we differ on some things. Respect!
This was the best MS fight in the entire series I come back and watch that fight every so often just to relive the feelings
I definitely concur, but after watching it multiple times; I can't help but I think that's the only reason Norris and his gouf custom ultimately succeeded the way that he did had more to do with the 08th Mobile Suit team's incompetence then the fact that he was supposed to be a badass ace. I mean think about it; Shinzo and his team we're in Gundams welding beam weaponry and had superior numbers. Had they actally bothered to use any tactics that took advantage of any of that, Norris would have been finished the moment they got a beat on them, or hell just have Shinzo engage in with the beam saber from the get-go. Of course, we all saw how that ultimately ended for Norris.
@@BloodDracolich More each member was guarding a guntank. They were seperated from the start
@Trealos Gaming , Even if that were true, nothing beats a gundam 1 on 1; not without the help of dirty tactics anyway. Plus, the command truck had a beat Norris at all times, so at least they could have coordinated their attacks way better than they did.
@@BloodDracolich that is true. But he was also using tactics to get the chances to kill the tanks. And the 8th MS team shows that gundams really arent all that strong. Which is great
08th MS Team is my favorite mecha. While the romance subplot was merely, "okay," the gritty realism and attention to detail really sets the series apart. The mobile suits move and react like you'd expect giant armored machines to because of physics. They suffer wear, tear and lasting damage as real equipment would - with jury-rigged replacements as one might expect in a war. The protagonists aren't invincible, insurmountably better pilots, or in dramatically better mechs than their foes. And there's no New Type, geass, etc. magic.
The 08th MS Team is to Gundam what HALO: ODST is to HALO, no "supersoldier single-handedly changes the course of war" bullshit, just mere mortals with pure grit and team determination.
Bruh how on earth is your channel not more popular. These videos are incredibly thorough.
This and Thunderbolt are my favorite Gundam series. Brilliant and definitely well written. 👍
I could never get pass Thunderbolt's Buttmetal Jazz music, but anything that is grounded and isn't swamped by teenage space Jedi is good by me.
@@seawind930 Well i love Thunderbolt's Buttmetal Jazz Music
I can't get past Thunderbolt's gore aspects. Gundam and gore just don't mix.
Just rewatched 08th and was thinking your retrospective would be great! Glad to see I'm right.
Excellent video! Really put into words what i love about 08th MS and was very well paced!
The ground combat in 08th MS team and the romance subplot made this one of my favorite Gundam shows in the series.
Absolutely fantastic! And yea I totally agree with the last episode being a bit of a missed step especially with the newtype kids but I do appreciate that they gave them a nod of sorts. Its a subject gundam always flirts with but the trauma and abuse of the newtype testing programs really only shows itself in damaged people rather than really go through the horrors outside some of the Zeta's and Unicorn which gave it a little more "love". I also feel at least in some way it was to help tie in some of the side stories as well. One big one being Blue Destiny's Manga series. The Exam system (that alot of later newtype systems like the Psycho gundam and NTD were based on) was put into a gundam ground unit. The 'heart' behind that program was Marion Welch, who was never really talked about in the episode but was the blue haired girl sick and then buried. The exact blue hair color and style really pointed it to being her which was kind of a way to tie up that story too.
Fantastic to see you visit this one and absolutely loved it! I also had no idea the director died mid production. ._.
thank you so much Retcon404. Your videos are always a welcome!
Awesome video man, your gundam reviews are fantastic! Love the use of battle assault music!
Given your take on this, can't wait to see your review of Iron Blooded Orphans.
This series was an amazing series. It, as you said, showed soldier life and gave us amazing suits. It is my all time favorite series because it shows us that the Gundams are not invincible given a nameless grunt beheads and disables one in practically a weak suit. Then the shot in the leg from a tank that disables it. Overall was amazing
Another fantastic video man, keep up the amazing the work! I recently got into Gundam, and your videos have been really helpful to review the strengths and weaknesses of each series. 08th MS Team is undoubtedly one of my favorites so far.
You did really well these retrospective videos feel like the book reports I used to give in middle school where you pretty much end up play-by-playing the whole thing and the teacher cuts you off after 20min of standing up in front of the class and babbling.
The ground type Gundam is honestly my favorite design because of the simplicity. No crazy thrusters, no gimmicks, just a tanky Gundam suit built like a tank.
This is my favorite Gundam Series over all.
16:47 It's not in Mayfly of Space I think, that has the gassing done with cannisters on the hull similar to Zeta, but there's a cutscene I think from a game that shows that the Zaku 1 in Shiro's origin is indeed piloted by Cima Garahu from 0083, and she's freaking out that she was told it was sleeping or tear gas.
I'm thinking the game was Encounters in Space, one of the cutscenes in the Cima campaign in Ace Mode
@@smallflame85 I tried watching bits of that but wasn't sure I saw it there either.
The game cutscene is from encounters in space, I don't remember what side it was though, I think it was her home colony
Further reading, in thr gihren greed games , a cutscene shows her as the pilot of the zaku that gased shiros colony, idk bored
@@veryorignalname4804 Oh sweet do you know where I can grab it? I know some other vids that use it in a clip but a vid of just that would be really great.
This and Stardust Memory are actually two of my faves. Top 3 is rounded off by Zeta. I think "realism" fits Gundam perfectly. And the two have some of my favorite mechs and animation.
I feel like *War in the Pocket* should be in there
I totally agree with you, 1st zeta, 2nd Stardust memory and 3nd this, even though the first mobile suit Gundam and after war Gundam X come after very near with them.
Totally agree with you only I’ll change zeta for war in the pocket only because I haven’t had the chance to watch zeta
Really? Stardust memory is awful
Tell me about it. Couldn't give a single damn about newtypes.
despite me taking my name from a gundam series i love, 08th MS team is by far my favorite gundam series
08 MS team is peak Gundam/OYW content. All the little details are great, the weight to the mobile suit movements, the need for repairs, the zaku using a federation shield and the guns actually needing to be reloaded...perfection
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@@zx2731 I respect your decision to have a bad take.
I wasn't able to get the models from this series but I had one of the action figures and it was my favorite it had the weapons case that the cannon would break down into, the machine gun had a detachable magazine and a folding stock then to see that level of detail in the OVA was mindblowing
Gotta love those Ground Types. Also, some sweet Ball action.
This channel helped me rediscover my love for gundam
I think the reason that I like the 08th MS Team is bc it was the first show that really made it feel like our main cast was fighting in regular military hardware. The gundams weren’t special, one-of-a-kind, super weapons whose specs outclassed anything used by either side. They were just stock models. If one broke down, you’d just hop in another one. They had to use tactics and be cunning to use their numbers to their advantage. If they got in a head-on-head battle with a group of Zakus there’s no guarantee that they’d come out on top just because they were using gundams.
My absolute fav series in Gundam. I feel like on Toonami stopped at ep 11 and i found 12 years later as like a movie or something. Amazing fight scenes. Found you cause of 0083 stayed for 08th MS team. Great job my friend.
08TH MS Team is one of the best out of all the series. This and wing are my absolute favorites. Great video.
It’s criminal how underrated and unwatched this OVA is.
I can’t tell how many anime fans I talk to that have never watched or even heard of this great addition to the franchise.
Def one of my favorites of the gundam universe and even anime in general
08th MS is *not* underrated in any sense of the word considering the unending praise it gets
Underrated?? Never. Everyone who has watched it has this at least in their top 5 Gundam series
I saw 08th MS Team when it aired on Toonami. It’s still one of my favorite gundam stories
definitely one of my favorite Gundam series right behind the Origin, 0079, zeta and war in the pocket. i honestly think it should've been slightly longer especially to flesh out more Aina and Shiro's relationship
I just started watching this show again today, and literally checked to see if you had a review yet, mere minutes before you uploaded 😆 Love your Gundam Retrospectives!
My all time favorite Gundam series! Damn I'm gonna have to go watch it again now!
This is the perfect place for me to write this..
08th MS Team is not only one of the very best Gundam Series, its also one of the most underrated animes of all time. I have yet to be as impressed with any animation as the immense awe I felt when watch the EZ8 fight Goof. If I ever find myself in a situation where I want to show someone how good anime is I show them that fight.
This is in my opinion the best Gundam show ever.
Just what I needed while working on a model kit. You got me through the infuriating torso of the HGUC Gaplant
I saw this a few months ago and I loved it. I'll be sure to rewatch it in the future.
The first Gundam anime I watched, and so far still my favorite. :)
Same, I watched it last summer because I didn’t have anything else to do and now I am completely hooked on the franchise
O8th MS Team is one of my favorites. I love the parallels between the EZ8 and the Sherman Tank. Definitely the most grounded series of the Universe. Also, nice touch with the Front Mission 4 remix! I heard it, and immediately went back to my PS2 days.
Awesome man. This is the one I’ve been waiting for.
I loved this Gundam series the most! The most realistic in my eyes and more tactical
I have to respect 8th MS Team for having such grittiness so rarely seen in other Gundam media. Grunts duking it out, no specials beam or funnel spamming to win the day, just good ol' fashioned teamwork and ingenuity. I must admit to thinking that the overall message gets muddled in the second half when the love story comes around. I also never understood the "both sides being bad" as a criticism for this and Unicorn, I mean, have you seen UC as a whole? Tomorrow's enemies become today's allies but Anaheim will still keep selling to everyone. It's so close to being a favorite of mine but I can see why others like it. Looking forward to the Gundam X review, truly underrated and my personal favorite AC by far.
A fellow After War enjoyer. Nice.
@@nicodalusong149 I didn't expect to like it as much as I did, until I realized After War is Universal Century for people who don't like how Universal Century turned out.
@@jl8060 Yes, that's part of what I like about it and why I suggest it as a starting show because it has enough UC and AU in it that is a really good to branch out from. Also, Tiffa is best girl.
@@nicodalusong149 It's got enough leverage for being an alternate UC for it to work, yeah. I'd say that some familiarization with UC would enhance the effect, especially if they don't like how UC continually gets darker and dreary with each passing year. Tiffa is definitely an interesting character, and her and Garrod's romance is one of the few romances in Gundam that work for sure.
Love your content dude and also love that we have all the same books on our shelves. Hail yourself
Something I greatly appreciate about 8th MS Team is that it never goes into the two-class system with super suits and grunts essentially forming seperate battlefields since the latter have no chance what-so-ever against the former and get mowed down by the dozen if they try. Here a Gundam is just a slightly better suit, but by no means undefeatable. A simple Zaku can still crack them if the pilot is just better or luckier than the Gundam one's.
Don't get me wrong I have no problem with those things existing and Unicorn and Thunderbolt for example are awesome in their own right, but it's refreshing that we can get both kinds of series. After all even the very first MS Gundam series at least started out with the Gundam being vulnerable to regular Zakus too and being put on the backfoot by aces or numbers of regular suits several times before Amuro's essentially superpowers kick in.
I can't say it is my sole all time favourite Gundam series, since that changes with my mood, but it's definitely among the group at the very top.
Hell yes ! Let's go ! I love this show my favorite Gundam series. Thanks again for making theses, they are awesome.
P.s nice video backdrop.
I loved how grounded and realistic 08th MS Team feels. I also liked the detail of Norris being a complete badass because as an Ace Pilot, if he was to be pitted against a Newtype like Amuro, he would get decimated. But in a real fight with no advantages other than raw skill, this shows that even the best of the best pilots couldn't keep up with all the other Newtypes but would stomp regular soldiers in the same way someone like Kamille would in the Z Gundam.
My favorite in the series, you have earned my follow!
Two of my favorite series 08th MS team along with 0080 War in the Pocket are often referred as the best entry into Gundam if u don't start with 0079 and to this day 08th MS team is the most realistic series in the franchise by far(probably besides the scene where Shiro dodged a fallen Zaku's two close ranged machine gun shots without being affected by the shock waves)
Another banger! 💥 love the Gundam series bro! Also I’m glad you were able to find a new residence!
Great darn video! Subbed
The RX-79 [G] always felt more like a new limited production series mobile suit than a cobbling of whatever parts were left over from the
V Project. The cockpit of the 79 is located in the upper torso while the 78's cockpit is located mid torso. The beam sabers of the 79 are
stored in a leg compartment as opposed to the backpack of the 78. The 79 id also built like they were never intended to use the Core Block
System like the 3 V project suits.
Bit of both, I would say. The ground type GM is likely a new limited production series, and the RX-79 [G] is likely a spin-off that is essentially the gundam version of a GM-79 [G], based on how the GM was a (co) development of the Gundam, with the actual leftovers of the RX-78 project. In all ways, it is more of a suped-up GM-79 [G], than an RX-78.
08th ms team is my favorite Gundam series for all of its' merits, Stardust Memory is my favorite by nostalgia as it was one of the first DVDs I ever owned... And your right, the romance is done so much better in 08
Loving the gundam videos...cant wait for the new gundam series to drop...iv re watched all the gundam series I can find on streaming so many times wishing a new series would drop and now we are so close
Thank you ! well done video on this version of Gundam! I grew up watching this in the early 2000s and really like this perspective of Gundam instead of super hero-like characters
Just discovered your channel, dude. Fantastic content.
08th MS Team and 0083 are my favorite Gundam series’ due to their grounded, realistic outlook on the One Year War and it’s aftermath. No space wizards, just enlisted and commissioned troops hating war but fighting it anyway. The animation style in both shows are incredible. Keep up the great work, man.
0083 is awful though…
@@DeltaAssaultGaming I love 0080. It's just perfect.
this has to be the most underrated mobile suit anime of all time, I honestly prefer the one year war to everything else, just love how grounded the combat was and the story of the main character. episode 6 battle line on the burning sand was my fav episode and also episode 7 you get the flashback to the incident that happened on side 2 colony, super good, highly recommend this on hulu.
dude im new to the channel but I love the videos!! Thanks for making them!
Glad you like them!
8th ost team was definitely the coolest one year War Era series while war in the pokect is the most tragic
Dare I say it, this Gundam series are the most grounded to reality.
Best series in the franchise! Awesome video.
08th MS Team is my personal favorite of the UC timeline. Loved everything about this anime.
My entry into the series was seeing the shelves full of Gundam models as a kid at my cousins place, I then started watching the OG 79 Show and then later enthralled by Wing/War in the pocket.. everything. Lol
Always love when MSV gets some love.
This is by far, one of the best Gundam offerings in the series, Gundam 0083 and Gundam 0080 war in the pocket. Also love Gundam Unicorn and Iron Blooded Orphans.
I recently watched this series, and out of all the Gundam series, I think this may be my favorite Gundam series. This shit is so fucking perfect.
One of my favorite gundam series
08th MS team is my favourite UC show, and even tho my first Gundam, Gundam 00, is still top of my list, I think this half season length show is so well done that it takes second. I enjoyed IBO, I loved Gundam X, I've seen a bunch of others with their multiple seasons and plenty of content and tons of Mobile Suits and mid show upgrades, but 08th MS Team just condenses it perfectly for me.
Watching this coming after my first Gundam series Iron Blooded Orphans. And I have to say I loved it! Looking forward to more Gundam but at the same time I feel the bar has been set so high with both these incredible shows!
Great review! I was waiting for this one ;) thanks! One of my favorite gundam next to gundam oo
This series is amazing, my favorite and for me one of the greatest Anime’s of all time.
This one is still my favorite Gundam on all the franchise
Definitely one of my favourite Gundam series on so many aspects
The trees are speaking zeek
what i also like about the foot scene is that Shiro almost straight up gets crushed in it because of a simple mistake. like its simply just that easy to die
still my favorite of all the gundam stuff. its just so much easier to get drawn into that story because of the realism
I love that the EZ8's design is based off on the fly modifications. It's abrasive looking just like the M2 Stinger. In lore they were strapped for supplies so they yoinked two zaku 2 shoulder shields and welded them for the chest piece. They took out multi-launchers, vulcan guns, cameras, etc. They had to add extra padding because the armor being used was weaker than the usual titanium so it's really blocky looking.