Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team | The Gundam Retrospective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ส.ค. 2022
- The 08th MS team is a gritty and realistic(mostly) take on the One Year War that sees our team of Gundam pilots entrenched in the southeast Asian front of the Federation/Zeon conflict. With parallels to the Vietnam war, Apocalypse Now and Romeo & Juliet, 08th MS team is one of my favorite short entries in the Gundam franchise. Let's find out why.
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One of my fav mecha animes because:
1. No Child pilot (no really)
2. Gundams are realistic machines
3. Good plot
4. cute romance
Watched this as a 12 year old when it premiered on toonami's midnight run. I still reflect happily on this period of my life. It was prior to the 9/11 attack, subsequent recession and failed war on terror.
Yup 👍🏿 I did too! But I was a little older than you! I was in high school! It left a such an impression on me. In the end they found him his living his life!
well now im starting to understand the nostalgia a lot of oldheads have with this series. I never knew it aired on toonami. When i first started getting into UC this show was constantly recommended as it's pretty detached from the main tomino entries, and when i saw it i was pretty disappointed, it wasnt bad but I'd seen thunderbolt and hathaway prior to watching 08th and those 2 blew my mind, i was expecting at least a fraction of that going into this. If i'd seen this as a kid i probably wouldve loved it dearly as well. All i got as a kid were wing, G, and seed, and man those three were WACK[Y].
Now go watch the uncut version
same
You can’t reflect happily on your life after 9/11?
Man, 08th ms team...what a dreamscape of amazingly smooth animation (from the way the parachute pack is ejected to the ez 8 vs gouf custom battle) and grounded realism that kept me hooked and reminds me of a bygone Era of anime we will never see again. Thanks for keeping the interest in the classic gundam series alive. Long live OG universal century.
Can't argue with that. This was the show that introduced me to the whole franchise, and still holds up well today.
@@richmcgee434 hand drawn animation is timeless.
@@robeyhairston3298 Absolutely, and not just in anime. Fleischer Studios work is evergeen.
@@richmcgee434 you are correct sir. American animation was once a force to be reckoned with (rotoscoping included) up until the cheap production that took place with third party animators from Korea.
@@robeyhairston3298 I would say the decline in US animation started much earlier than that, and had less to do with Korea than with the corner-cutting at Hanna-Barbera and outsourcing to Mexican studios - although in both cases, there were occasional gems despite the drop in visual quality. For ex, Jonny Quest is well drawn but cheaply animated and relies on the strength of its imaginative plots, and as hideous as it is Bullwinkle is so well written with so much wry humor it's hard to really fault it for its bottom of the barrel animation.
The vast majority of cartoons lack the creativity and writing chops to prop up the kind of shoddy animation that started to appear regularly in the 60s, though.
Gundam the 08th MS Team is an absolute masterpiece... This including both 0080 and 0083 make up the great 90's UC trilogy aimed at adults.
The holy trinity of Gundam.
Ah I see you are a person of culture as well, this is definitely the best of Gundam
0083 is awful though…
@@DeltaAssaultGaming You're awful.
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Not really.
It’s by far the most flawed of the three. And it has Nina which is actually awful.
But it is a good show. It’s just half baked from a plot point.
The 08th MS Team is to Gundam what HALO: ODST is to HALO, no "supersoldier single-handedly changes the course of war" bullshit, just mere mortals with pure grit and team determination.
My favorite Gundam series. People like to complain that the love story aspect is undercooked, but I think that's mitigated by the fact that Shiro and Aina are both so likeable and you're actually rooting for them to be together, unlike say... Kou and Nina. And it's not a bizarre relationship like Heero and Relena either. It just lacked the time devoted to a couple like Domon and Rain, but still manages to feel earned.
I wished one of them died. Make it more sad.
Nah Shiro and Aina are kinda terrible. Love Aina's brother tho, he deserved better.
Releena to this day remains creepy to me.
Dorothy best girl.
Koi and Nina gives me heart ache almost 20 years after first watching that 0083 😭😭
I call that one Gundam NTR
My favorite Gundam series.
It made mobile suits seem both incredibly important and surprisingly expendable simultaneously.
When the goal of the enemy is to destroy three guntanks, it makes them seem important.
However, seeing them cannibalize and thrown away also emphasis that they're just machines.
Shiro and Aina are a much more conventional Romeo and Juliet which is a relief.
I've always love the design of the Ez-8, the extra armor plating on the chest always made me feel like the suit was more tanky. I even still have one of the figures from when the show was still new, the version that actually came with that "backpack" for all the extra gear/weapons that was usable.
I remember my parents bought me the same one around when I was in middle school along with the GM sniper and the GP02 from Stardust Memory
I have that same figure!!! It was so much fun putting the weapons together and trying to fit them back in the pack
A solid series that managed to complete a vision even with the director passing
Easily one of my favorite Gundam series. Short, gorgeous, simple and to the point. The fact that you could remove the last episode and lose nothing is a testament to how solid the show is; it doesn't even *need* that many episodes.
This and Stardust Memory are actually two of my faves. Top 3 is rounded off by Zeta. I think "realism" fits Gundam perfectly. And the two have some of my favorite mechs and animation.
I feel like *War in the Pocket* should be in there
I totally agree with you, 1st zeta, 2nd Stardust memory and 3nd this, even though the first mobile suit Gundam and after war Gundam X come after very near with them.
Totally agree with you only I’ll change zeta for war in the pocket only because I haven’t had the chance to watch zeta
Really? Stardust memory is awful
Tell me about it. Couldn't give a single damn about newtypes.
To this day this still stands as my favorite Gundam series, some of the other shows have been great in terms of big scope wars and end games but what stands out to me about the 08th MS Team is the grounded approach and view point of the common ground soldier, the battle sequences are great for its time as well.
That Gouf fight was definitely amazing. The Oil/Blood Stab was my fave moment for sure. Im enjoying your walk through of the franchise even tho we differ on some things. Respect!
This was the best MS fight in the entire series I come back and watch that fight every so often just to relive the feelings
I definitely concur, but after watching it multiple times; I can't help but I think that's the only reason Norris and his gouf custom ultimately succeeded the way that he did had more to do with the 08th Mobile Suit team's incompetence then the fact that he was supposed to be a badass ace. I mean think about it; Shinzo and his team we're in Gundams welding beam weaponry and had superior numbers. Had they actally bothered to use any tactics that took advantage of any of that, Norris would have been finished the moment they got a beat on them, or hell just have Shinzo engage in with the beam saber from the get-go. Of course, we all saw how that ultimately ended for Norris.
@@BloodDracolich More each member was guarding a guntank. They were seperated from the start
@Trealos Gaming , Even if that were true, nothing beats a gundam 1 on 1; not without the help of dirty tactics anyway. Plus, the command truck had a beat Norris at all times, so at least they could have coordinated their attacks way better than they did.
@@BloodDracolich that is true. But he was also using tactics to get the chances to kill the tanks. And the 8th MS team shows that gundams really arent all that strong. Which is great
This and Thunderbolt are my favorite Gundam series. Brilliant and definitely well written. 👍
I could never get pass Thunderbolt's Buttmetal Jazz music, but anything that is grounded and isn't swamped by teenage space Jedi is good by me.
@@seawind930 Well i love Thunderbolt's Buttmetal Jazz Music
I can't get past Thunderbolt's gore aspects. Gundam and gore just don't mix.
I've been rewatching this while introducing my buddy to the world of Gundam.
This one is still my favorite series. The grit and believability here is unmatched and one of the few series aside from Zeta that stays consistently good despite the creator passing halfway through.
Just found your channel and was disappointed there wasn't a video for 8th Ms team(my favorite series of the era) but I'm glad that was remedied very quickly
I've been burning through your gundam retrospectives for the past three days, having just found the channel. What can I say? You basically made a series that I have never really cared about come to life for me in a vivid way, and the passion you have for it is absolutely contagious. I always thought gundam was just Japanese Transformers lol, and I am very grateful to have that view corrected. Looking forward to whatever you want to share with us from now on, you've more than earned my sub and my respect!
THank you! I really love the series and I'm glad that carried over into the videos!
This is my favorite Gundam series, and the best version of "Romeo and Juliet"
Eh, I prefer West Side Story.
20:30 I was invested till I heard the Hangar theme from FM5: Scars of War. Holy shit, it feels so good to know that there are people who recognize the game!
Loving the Waterworld Map music. Keep using it, it's so good.
Very well done! 08th MS Team is easily my favorite UC Gundam. Everything about it just feels right, and I would love to see another show done the same way in UC.
Side note, the Master Grade Ground Gundam needs a 2.0!
So does the Ez-8 and MS08-B3
16:47 It's not in Mayfly of Space I think, that has the gassing done with cannisters on the hull similar to Zeta, but there's a cutscene I think from a game that shows that the Zaku 1 in Shiro's origin is indeed piloted by Cima Garahu from 0083, and she's freaking out that she was told it was sleeping or tear gas.
I'm thinking the game was Encounters in Space, one of the cutscenes in the Cima campaign in Ace Mode
@@smallflame85 I tried watching bits of that but wasn't sure I saw it there either.
The game cutscene is from encounters in space, I don't remember what side it was though, I think it was her home colony
Further reading, in thr gihren greed games , a cutscene shows her as the pilot of the zaku that gased shiros colony, idk bored
@@veryorignalname4804 Oh sweet do you know where I can grab it? I know some other vids that use it in a clip but a vid of just that would be really great.
It’s a good day when this account uploads, love the Gundam retrospectives!
Gotta love those Ground Types. Also, some sweet Ball action.
Given your take on this, can't wait to see your review of Iron Blooded Orphans.
The first Gundam anime I watched, and so far still my favorite. :)
Same, I watched it last summer because I didn’t have anything else to do and now I am completely hooked on the franchise
The ground combat in 08th MS team and the romance subplot made this one of my favorite Gundam shows in the series.
definitely one of my favorite Gundam series right behind the Origin, 0079, zeta and war in the pocket. i honestly think it should've been slightly longer especially to flesh out more Aina and Shiro's relationship
08 MS team is peak Gundam/OYW content. All the little details are great, the weight to the mobile suit movements, the need for repairs, the zaku using a federation shield and the guns actually needing to be reloaded...perfection
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@@zx2731 I respect your decision to have a bad take.
I wasn't able to get the models from this series but I had one of the action figures and it was my favorite it had the weapons case that the cannon would break down into, the machine gun had a detachable magazine and a folding stock then to see that level of detail in the OVA was mindblowing
08th MS Team Simply the best for me. everything was perfect! thanks for cover it up.
This is my favorite Gundam Series over all.
I saw 08th MS Team when it aired on Toonami. It’s still one of my favorite gundam stories
Just rewatched 08th and was thinking your retrospective would be great! Glad to see I'm right.
I've been so excited for this! 08th MS team brings the nostalgia for sure
It’s criminal how underrated and unwatched this OVA is.
I can’t tell how many anime fans I talk to that have never watched or even heard of this great addition to the franchise.
Def one of my favorites of the gundam universe and even anime in general
08th MS is *not* underrated in any sense of the word considering the unending praise it gets
Underrated?? Never. Everyone who has watched it has this at least in their top 5 Gundam series
Bruh how on earth is your channel not more popular. These videos are incredibly thorough.
Yes! Keep these videos coming dude. I live for them right now.
This is the 3rd or 4th time I watch this video, I can honestly say that 8th MS team is one of the best overall Gundam OVAs I've ever watched.
If you really are going to get a Ez8, I would suggest getting the HGUC from 2013. The MG from 2000 isn't worth getting simply because of the types of plastic used. It will look great, but it will suffer a lot of sagging and falling apart over time. I just wish Bandai released a revive version of the Ez8 like they did of the Ground Gundam back in 2018.
Honestly, these retrospectives have reignited my love of Gundam. I have a back log off 15 kits and I finally want to actually build a kit for the first time in years! Thank you so much and keep up the great work.
Wish there were more series like MS 08th. Grounded as grounded Gundam can get.
its not actually realistic at all and im going to laugh at everyone who calls it realistic.
It’s definitely grounded, but it’s not gritty
@@mpo48The show with giant space colonies and huge mechs with light sabres isn't realistic. Wow, who would have thought?
Two of my favorite series 08th MS team along with 0080 War in the Pocket are often referred as the best entry into Gundam if u don't start with 0079 and to this day 08th MS team is the most realistic series in the franchise by far(probably besides the scene where Shiro dodged a fallen Zaku's two close ranged machine gun shots without being affected by the shock waves)
Absolutely fantastic! And yea I totally agree with the last episode being a bit of a missed step especially with the newtype kids but I do appreciate that they gave them a nod of sorts. Its a subject gundam always flirts with but the trauma and abuse of the newtype testing programs really only shows itself in damaged people rather than really go through the horrors outside some of the Zeta's and Unicorn which gave it a little more "love". I also feel at least in some way it was to help tie in some of the side stories as well. One big one being Blue Destiny's Manga series. The Exam system (that alot of later newtype systems like the Psycho gundam and NTD were based on) was put into a gundam ground unit. The 'heart' behind that program was Marion Welch, who was never really talked about in the episode but was the blue haired girl sick and then buried. The exact blue hair color and style really pointed it to being her which was kind of a way to tie up that story too.
Fantastic to see you visit this one and absolutely loved it! I also had no idea the director died mid production. ._.
This one is still my favorite Gundam on all the franchise
8th Ms team it's easy one of my top 10 favorite Gundam series ever made I love how grounded it is I love how realistic it is and if I'm more like a war series than most of the Gundam shows even though Gundam Wing and mobile fighter Gundam I'll still my favorites
That music at that start I first heard in Zeonic front. My personal favorite gundam game. What a throw back that was for me!
what i also like about the foot scene is that Shiro almost straight up gets crushed in it because of a simple mistake. like its simply just that easy to die
Awesome video man, your gundam reviews are fantastic! Love the use of battle assault music!
8th ost team was definitely the coolest one year War Era series while war in the pokect is the most tragic
08th MS Team is my favorite mecha. While the romance subplot was merely, "okay," the gritty realism and attention to detail really sets the series apart. The mobile suits move and react like you'd expect giant armored machines to because of physics. They suffer wear, tear and lasting damage as real equipment would - with jury-rigged replacements as one might expect in a war. The protagonists aren't invincible, insurmountably better pilots, or in dramatically better mechs than their foes. And there's no New Type, geass, etc. magic.
There's a reason this is top 3 for the franchise.
I'd love to see your take on Iron Blooded Orphans.
Same here. This is right behind Iron Blooded Orphans on my list of favourites.
The RX-79 [G] always felt more like a new limited production series mobile suit than a cobbling of whatever parts were left over from the
V Project. The cockpit of the 79 is located in the upper torso while the 78's cockpit is located mid torso. The beam sabers of the 79 are
stored in a leg compartment as opposed to the backpack of the 78. The 79 id also built like they were never intended to use the Core Block
System like the 3 V project suits.
Bit of both, I would say. The ground type GM is likely a new limited production series, and the RX-79 [G] is likely a spin-off that is essentially the gundam version of a GM-79 [G], based on how the GM was a (co) development of the Gundam, with the actual leftovers of the RX-78 project. In all ways, it is more of a suped-up GM-79 [G], than an RX-78.
This is the perfect place for me to write this..
08th MS Team is not only one of the very best Gundam Series, its also one of the most underrated animes of all time. I have yet to be as impressed with any animation as the immense awe I felt when watch the EZ8 fight Goof. If I ever find myself in a situation where I want to show someone how good anime is I show them that fight.
This channel helped me rediscover my love for gundam
I saw this a few months ago and I loved it. I'll be sure to rewatch it in the future.
08th MS Team is my favorite Gundam series of all time, just for how they portrait the Gundam Battles and how realistic it make it feel, also the amazing characters and the dynamics of their small band of characters. Also I dont know if the original run of 08th of Adult Swim didn't have the last episode, for me this is the first time I ever heard of that last episode, to me the show ended in that episode when you see Shiro and Aina surviving and show that Shiro lost his leg in the fight, that visual always have haunt me in a good way and was my favorite ending (Probably the reason I love so much How to Train your Dragon, because I feel Hiccup have a very similar arc with he also losing his leg in a big final battle)...now that I know there is an extra episode...I probably watch it but just for curiosity but I prefer ep. 11 as the last episode.
My all time favorite Gundam series! Damn I'm gonna have to go watch it again now!
Excellent video! Really put into words what i love about 08th MS and was very well paced!
This series was an amazing series. It, as you said, showed soldier life and gave us amazing suits. It is my all time favorite series because it shows us that the Gundams are not invincible given a nameless grunt beheads and disables one in practically a weak suit. Then the shot in the leg from a tank that disables it. Overall was amazing
Another fantastic video man, keep up the amazing the work! I recently got into Gundam, and your videos have been really helpful to review the strengths and weaknesses of each series. 08th MS Team is undoubtedly one of my favorites so far.
This is in my opinion the best Gundam show ever.
I just started watching this show again today, and literally checked to see if you had a review yet, mere minutes before you uploaded 😆 Love your Gundam Retrospectives!
You did really well these retrospective videos feel like the book reports I used to give in middle school where you pretty much end up play-by-playing the whole thing and the teacher cuts you off after 20min of standing up in front of the class and babbling.
despite me taking my name from a gundam series i love, 08th MS team is by far my favorite gundam series
Something I greatly appreciate about 8th MS Team is that it never goes into the two-class system with super suits and grunts essentially forming seperate battlefields since the latter have no chance what-so-ever against the former and get mowed down by the dozen if they try. Here a Gundam is just a slightly better suit, but by no means undefeatable. A simple Zaku can still crack them if the pilot is just better or luckier than the Gundam one's.
Don't get me wrong I have no problem with those things existing and Unicorn and Thunderbolt for example are awesome in their own right, but it's refreshing that we can get both kinds of series. After all even the very first MS Gundam series at least started out with the Gundam being vulnerable to regular Zakus too and being put on the backfoot by aces or numbers of regular suits several times before Amuro's essentially superpowers kick in.
I can't say it is my sole all time favourite Gundam series, since that changes with my mood, but it's definitely among the group at the very top.
Just what I needed while working on a model kit. You got me through the infuriating torso of the HGUC Gaplant
this has to be the most underrated mobile suit anime of all time, I honestly prefer the one year war to everything else, just love how grounded the combat was and the story of the main character. episode 6 battle line on the burning sand was my fav episode and also episode 7 you get the flashback to the incident that happened on side 2 colony, super good, highly recommend this on hulu.
My absolute fav series in Gundam. I feel like on Toonami stopped at ep 11 and i found 12 years later as like a movie or something. Amazing fight scenes. Found you cause of 0083 stayed for 08th MS team. Great job my friend.
Another banger! 💥 love the Gundam series bro! Also I’m glad you were able to find a new residence!
My favorite in the series, you have earned my follow!
"Life can sure be funny sometimes."
Goddammit Norris is such a treasure.
Awesome man. This is the one I’ve been waiting for.
I loved this Gundam series the most! The most realistic in my eyes and more tactical
This is the show that got me into the UC version of Gundam. And while great I just wish we could have a follow up series. I mean Aina was pregnant at the end for fuck sake! Can we get a show based around her & Shiro's kid?!
I think the reason that I like the 08th MS Team is bc it was the first show that really made it feel like our main cast was fighting in regular military hardware. The gundams weren’t special, one-of-a-kind, super weapons whose specs outclassed anything used by either side. They were just stock models. If one broke down, you’d just hop in another one. They had to use tactics and be cunning to use their numbers to their advantage. If they got in a head-on-head battle with a group of Zakus there’s no guarantee that they’d come out on top just because they were using gundams.
08TH MS Team is one of the best out of all the series. This and wing are my absolute favorites. Great video.
wish more gundam series made every interaction and fight feel like they were so weighted and urgent. sound design really did wonders for 08th ms team
Yep. Unlike seed where they only lose weapons and survive every encounter
8:50 eh late in the war relatively but early in the 0079 show, since it starts with Garma's funeral and ends a short time after Odessa. So even tge standard non ground GMs are very rare/unfinished.
Thank you ! well done video on this version of Gundam! I grew up watching this in the early 2000s and really like this perspective of Gundam instead of super hero-like characters
My entry into the series was seeing the shelves full of Gundam models as a kid at my cousins place, I then started watching the OG 79 Show and then later enthralled by Wing/War in the pocket.. everything. Lol
Always love when MSV gets some love.
Hell yes ! Let's go ! I love this show my favorite Gundam series. Thanks again for making theses, they are awesome.
P.s nice video backdrop.
Congrats on the move!! Can't wait to see the new set!
Just discovered your channel, dude. Fantastic content.
08th MS Team and 0083 are my favorite Gundam series’ due to their grounded, realistic outlook on the One Year War and it’s aftermath. No space wizards, just enlisted and commissioned troops hating war but fighting it anyway. The animation style in both shows are incredible. Keep up the great work, man.
0083 is awful though…
@@DeltaAssaultGaming I love 0080. It's just perfect.
Mecha anime trivia: other military squad sole survivors like Sanders are Chirico Cuvie of VOTOMS, Mellowlink from Armor Hunter Mellowlink and Grey Death from Grey: Digital Target. BTW I wish 08th MS was streaming on more platforms other than Hulu.
Best series in the franchise! Awesome video.
Loving the gundam videos...cant wait for the new gundam series to drop...iv re watched all the gundam series I can find on streaming so many times wishing a new series would drop and now we are so close
I loved how grounded and realistic 08th MS Team feels. I also liked the detail of Norris being a complete badass because as an Ace Pilot, if he was to be pitted against a Newtype like Amuro, he would get decimated. But in a real fight with no advantages other than raw skill, this shows that even the best of the best pilots couldn't keep up with all the other Newtypes but would stomp regular soldiers in the same way someone like Kamille would in the Z Gundam.
This series really hits hard on love and relationships in the war. Shiro/Aina and Michele/Bebe were the clear ones, but there was the complexity of Eledore/Karen and the unrequited love of Kiki to Shiro that plays out all the way through the Duty and Ideals episode. The subtitles do a better job at showing the original intent of the writers than the English dub. My favorite series and Mecha.
BTW, if you're planning on getting Gunpla from this series, the MG kits are pretty aged. Bandai really needs to 2.0 the Mecha from this series.
I've been looking at the HG Gouf Custom off and on. I'm very new to Gunpla so I don't want to hop into anything harder than HG at the moment! I also have the HG RX-78 that I plan on building, and possibly doing a build video on as I think that might be fun.
@@Retcon404 the HG 08th kits have been remade, and they are pretty good. Welcome to Gunpla!
@@Retcon404 that was my first one, and it felt *great* to put together! The skirt is actually very nice, and the kit feels good to pose!
@@smallflame85 wait, really? How do I know I'm getting the new version? I remember as a kid I had the MG 1/100 kit of the RX-79[G] from this show. Is there anything like that (bigger) from 08th MS team available?
@@KevinBYee The newest kit of the RX-79[G] Ground Gundam is a 1/144 HGUC version from 2018. The box art has a picture of three Ground Gundams with cliffs in the background.
An update of the 1/100 MG version of the ground gundam is yet to be made, which in my opinion is one of Bandai's greatest shortcomings.
Probably my favorite Gundam series
Love your content dude and also love that we have all the same books on our shelves. Hail yourself
Watching this coming after my first Gundam series Iron Blooded Orphans. And I have to say I loved it! Looking forward to more Gundam but at the same time I feel the bar has been set so high with both these incredible shows!
This series is amazing, my favorite and for me one of the greatest Anime’s of all time.
08th MS Team is my personal favorite of the UC timeline. Loved everything about this anime.
Great review! I was waiting for this one ;) thanks! One of my favorite gundam next to gundam oo
Dare I say it, this Gundam series are the most grounded to reality.
Definitely one of my favourite Gundam series on so many aspects
Still has the best mech fight ever put on screen I think. Nothing tops it because it showed the physicality of the mechs and their heavy weight which is something that is almost always lacking in many real robot series.
Honestly the animation of the UC OVAs is something I miss seeing these days since it was far more detailed than anything you see these days except for maybe Hathaway's Flash movie and the upcoming Witch of Mercury. Just an FYI for those who are out of the loop Witch of Mercury will be the next Gundam series and the 11th one to get its own universe. It will be releasing in October featuring possibly one of the most overpowered Gundams of the franchise.
One of my favorite gundam series
O8th MS Team is one of my favorites. I love the parallels between the EZ8 and the Sherman Tank. Definitely the most grounded series of the Universe. Also, nice touch with the Front Mission 4 remix! I heard it, and immediately went back to my PS2 days.
Great darn video! Subbed
Cant wait for you to cover Thunderbolt. My introduction to the series and personal favourite.