MS IGLOO: The Hidden One Year War | The Gundam Retrospective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ม.ค. 2023
- Created in the early 2000's as a celebration of the series 25th anniversary, MS IGLOO was originally shown at the Bandai Museum. Eventually it made it's way onto DVD, so we can all enjoy the Gundam franchises first foray into full CG action.
-- THIS VIDEO CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR MS IGLOO --
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In one of the cooler bits of Code Fairy - the Gundam Battle Operation 2 spin-off game - the protagonist Noisy Fairy unit goes out to recover the Hildolfr because they needed its giant gun barrel so they could jerry-rig unto a kitbash of a Gallop hover-carrier and a Dom. This created the Dom Gnomides, which was basically a proto-Xamel from Stardust Memory. The Fairies gave Sonnen a funeral before taking his cannon. It was a nice bit of harmless UC continuity fluff.
The alternate Manga retelling of 0083 also has some uses for I guess unfinished/spare Hildolfr parts beign used to make "Hildolfr Kais"
Tank warfare may be dead. But its spirit will live on. As long as bitches love cannons.
@DIEGhostfish that plus the other works in igloo get upgrades by the crew to help with their perceived issues. In other notes with the gnomides data, they were applied to make a refined version of it. Better known as the Xamel, It proves its efforts in 0083. Im unsure of how many were made but i believe it was about 3 to 5 of them.
the soul of the Hildolfr lives on in Dom Gnomides & Mia!
i love using the Gnomides in GBO2, it's a pretty fun suit😄
I liked the cameo apperance of the Midnight fenrir unit in the last bits of code fairy they always struck me as the proto noisy fairy being a Zeon unit who star in their own game.
The Zudah is so underappreciated of a design imo
I'm glad i have its HGUC kit, even though the only reason i bought it was to fill out an order and saw it had a huge rifle. Regardless; it's still a great kit for its age. Amusingly its kit released just after the Zaku 1, the MS that competed with the Zudah.
The zudah is the protagonist's MS in Gundam: Hunter of Black Clothes. great read.
Graphics aside it’s honestly one of my favourite little side stories in the UC timeline. And I love how they incorporated some of the characters into the 0083 Rebellion manga
Alright, the freakin' Hildolfear (Spelled it wrong, I know damn well I had to have.) has to be one of the coolest half mobile suit/tank things I've seen in the series. And what a damn fight it gets too. Beautiful.
Yeah, also hidolfr
I loved IGLOO, and to this day, the Hidolfr is still one of the coolest things i saw in Gundam.
You'll be happy to hear that Zudah does get a further developed version the Zudah F, this time with a stabilized engine that doesn't make it explode into a hundred pieces. Jean would be proud!
That is superb!
Too bad we can't get an animated version of Gundam F90 as I'd love a Zudah RF unit built from Zudah style parts and Geara Zulu tech. Think of how deadly that could be for a Stark Jeagan competitor.
The SD Gundam G Generation Genesis game has different anime like portraits for the characters and it’s fantastic to see it adapted the igloo series in it’s entirety! One of my favorite portions for sure!
WTF are the odds of this?! I just finished building the HG Zudah today (even did a bit of weathering on it) and also just beat the level in G Generation Genesis where you play through the Hildolfr scenario. Great timing, Retcon! I've never felt so damn bad for a tank before...
The hildolfr, the zudah scenes and that ending song will always be in my top 10 stuff from gundam
So funny note of trivia. Ms igloo had both a novel and manga additions which showed extra programs the jotenheim were involved in. Sadly there arent any translations to my knowledge. But ill put what info i know here.
The 3-4 events involve the balor observation pod, zaku 2 propellant type, the support weapon aegir, and the false flag unit gm camouf/dahle(from gundam thunderbolt).
The observation pod was an upgrade from the current limited production units used by zeon at the time. The end result was despite the high performance of the unit(being able to cut through minovsky particles alot easier to near previous manner.). It was way too costly to make. Thus after the unmaned pod was destroyed, the plans were shelved.
For the propellent unit type zake 2. It was a setup to help with long range patrols to be applied to any standard zaku. As such it had several canisters placed all over its body, giving it 500 percent increase in range. Unfortunately due to the setup and the speed it had for standard operations, its frame couldnt handle the vibrations of its equipment and thus ignitions occured in its proppelent from said vibrations. Detonating the mobile suit. And killing its pilot. Data shelved.
For the support weapon aegir, i would reccommend kakarot197 video of gundam lore on it for the entirety, but the weapon was a way for mobile suits to fire beam weapons underwater without it being dispersed or (more hazardously) detonating the water in a massive steam explosion like a mobile suit detonation.
For the last, the gm camouf. An zaku disguised as a gm to be used officially as an deep reconnaissance unit. Unnoficially, it was used for false flag ops against federation forces.
During the conclusion of its operation with a squad of camouf's, their return to friendly lines was a tragic case as zeon forces open fired on the camoufs before they could id themselves(and said forces thinking they were gms). Whole squad annihalated. The project was buried while i think the people who killed the camouf squad got a promotion. Not 100 positive.
So yeah, more depressing stories. Away!!!
I remember watching Igloo with my best friend on a super mega sketchy website on absolutely terrible resolution but the audio was good at least. So worth it.
i love the Zudah and the idea of the Zuda F, i really wish that among all the wild callbacks the series gets over the years we'd get more takes on it, one of the best headpiece designs in all of Zeon and there's nothing i love more than some obscure mech getting lovingly customized into something that outperforms the original in spades
Igloo is beautifully tragic and i'm so glad i watched it, thank you so much for giving this underappreciated gem some time in a spotlight
though you are right, it's definitely more for the fans than the newbies lol
Yay! Hildolfr need all the love. Can't wait for the gravity front and MS IGLOO2 video. I'm also interested on your take of Seed Destiny.
The best surprise to get after coming home from work.
Yeah, I'm one of those people who is obsessed with with finishing UC Gundam. Who knows how many pirate sites it took me to see MS IGLOO back in the day,... Four. It took four, & I saw them out of order the first time
this has been one of my favorite series on youtube, thanks for being willing to cover some of the more lesser known media from the gundam franchise. Hope you can cover some of the games too someday!
About a year ago I decided to watch the UC Gundams, in order of the events that happen in the timeline. I stopped a Victory, eventually I will return. MS Igloo was an interesting watch. The battles were cool to watch.
Thank you for covering IGLOO is one of my favorites
I love how code fairy for the PS4 and PS5 dropped a nod to MS Igloo by finding the destroyed YMT-05 Hildolfr and modify a dom with and finally lay sonnen's body to rest. Nice little surprise for those that have watches ms igloo and hint to other things that happen during the one year war that normal or new fans wouldn't know to make people look it up
I love how they used the perfect grade Zaku as their 3D model makes me Love the PG even more
I actually really like the animation. Reminds me of late PSOne or early PS2 CGI.
I Believe this particular gundam was developed in Canada as well and, as a Canadian...hmm....no English dub on the bluray though...
Looking forward to Gundam Seed, should be funny 🤣😂;)
I can't tell you why but these videos are a huge deal to me. Gundam is the one thing I've liked continuously since I was a little kid
Oh Seed Destiny, I love the Alliance suit designs, and, I really love the Alliance suit designs. And, yeah that's as good as I can say about it
Dagger L, Raider Full Spec, the Windam etc especially the Windam because in by the numbers, they would make the Minerva to literally look for alternative routes or bring lots of escorts had they utilize them accordingly to their true performance and one company of them could give Shinn so much headache that he would avoiding engaging them directly most of the time. That being said the Windam is supposed to surpass the original Strike's performance. Also Windams are what the Phantom Pain should have as their mainstay unit. Would've been interesting had Sting, Stella and Auel got their own custom MS based on the Windams tailored just for them, might've been Cosmic Era's counterpart of the UC's 4 Horsemen MS. Block words are just a stand-ins for the EXAM and HADES.
These zoomed in faces are really unsettling.
I like how the actually show that the Advent of the Mobile suit causes many soldiers to fall into the category of "useless". The GM for once doesn't appear goofy to me so I'll check it out. I mean I'm so deep in this whole, I'm actually watching SD Gundam.
Judging by where we are chronologically atm, Seed Destiny is next... that'll be a fun one
Definitely interesting to hear more about Igloo though, I'd barely heard of it before this video
One thing I appreciated about the Battle of Loum in Origins compared to its depiction in MS Igloo. The Zeon tactics make more sense in there.
Like the Zeon cruisers are all designed with centerline firepower. So in Origins they approach the enemy nose on. Where they can bring all their firepower to bear, and have a minimal target profile.
As opposed to MS Igloo, where they turn broadside. Offering no more additional firepower down range at the Federation... but giving a target like 4 times as big.
Little things like that. You appreciate them when you notice them because it means someone was thinking about things.
@Retcon_404 11:52 Actually not quite lost to time, you see both YMT-05 Hildolfr and its deceased pilot major Demeziere Sonnen, get recovered during the One Year War, by Zeon Special Forces detachment called Noisy Fairy operating on Earth. They hold a burial ceremony for the late major and repurpose the YMT-05's parts of mobile armour and its main gun, with a YMS-09D Dom Tropical Test Type into what would eventually become a heavily customized mobile suit we've come to know in 0083 as YMS-16M Xamel. I was amazed the events of IGLOO's 2nd episode, got incorporated and expanded upon with the Mobile Suit Gundam Battle Operation Code Fairy storyline. Kind regards 404.
Don’t forget the other Igloo stories. The Federation tankers fighting Zaku’s. The Federation anti-tank infantry unit ordered to take on some Zaku’s with just Tow Missiles. An the Federation woman pilot who developed a prototype Guntank style suit blowing herself up at the end to destroy a Dobday. Oh an the Angel of Death following some of the characters
That's the other OVA collection, yeah. Worth examining eventually.
I loved how they went with some supernatural elements in Igloo2. One wouldn’t think at first that a mecha series like Gundam could really pull off something like that, but then one has to remember that Gundam is, at its core, a space opera - and a space opera is still an opera, and plenty of those have things like ghosts and spirits in them. Also it brings up an interesting question; could newtypes possibly perceive entities like the Angel of Death?
Also why did she remind me of Cima?
Speaking of 3DCG Mecha, I'd like to suggest *Majestic Prince* which is one of the earlier works of Studio Orange, one of the best 3DCG animators in the anime industry.
Retcon im so happy u uploaded this. Cheers bud
i just want to say that the 3d animation of MS Igloo reminds me of what the first Max Steel movies looked like.
Excellent job 👏 👍
I love Igloo, Apocalypse, and to a lesser extent the Gravity Front. The animation does improve quite a bit thankfully, but it does remain fairly uncanny. I hope you cover both Apoc and Gravity Front!
I never caught Igloo and absolutely didn't know it was all CG. Pretty fascinating stuff in its own right. Glad to see you're still doing well and steadily working on fun projects. That passion is what draws us all in, so keep doing you my dude. Have a good one!
Sonnen! That guy I cosplayed and got an award for!
I come for the Gundam, I stay for all the Mecha OSTs I grew up with. Thanks for the video!
Fun fact the republic of zeon was able the keep the Jormungand . It's been used a couple time in side story when the republic of zeon was in danger. And I'm not kidding it hasn't score a hit since the one year war
I love how the main crew of Jotunheim appeared in the 0083 manga, still deploying the railgun and Hildolfrs (at least upgraded ones), and even developed the mobile armor for Gato.
Another great video! And happy new year sir!
Hey man! I love your gundam vids. You are my go to guy for Gundam Content.
I quite enjoyed this one, yeah it's a little clunky but I think MS Igloo has great characters and is phenomenal at setting the mood. Zeon is a losing, and you feel that.
Yeah, IGLOO did a great job of showing us the lives (and sadly deaths,) of the 'little people' that were just trying to do their duty and not get killed in a way that 08th MS Team dabbled with but never really managed to pull off.
"I will not call it a Jim and I don't care."
The balls on this guy.
"And no, I will not call it a jim, I don't care." I knew I liked you for a reason.
Can’t wait for the Destiny one. Sorry you had to go through it for us. But for me. It took me a long time to actually like the series, but honestly I do. Definitely love the MS in it. They are just awesome.
I think you're pretty spot on with MS Igloo: The Hidden One Year. The PS2 graphics aren't the best, and it's not great enough to be essential viewing or even an underrated gem, but man, if the Hildolfr and Zudah ain't some of the coolest things to come out of it. Another show that's great conceptually speaking. I myself am struggling to finish Seed Destiny and it has been on hold for 3 months now, hopefully I find the motivation to finish it after watching G-Witch and before you release your video on it.
i highly disagree on it not being great. the story is amazing, and it is one of the best side stories in the UC. it gives alot of time to characters to talk and discuss the war, something many other side stories dont do. on the contrary, compared to something like sentinel or even unicorn. the ms igloo 1 and 2 feel far more grounded and able to show what gundam is all about.
@@marcosdheleno There are better ones I feel, story wise. I always like when UC tries to ground its setting outside of Newtype shenanigans, but I don't really care about the characters much, and it's not essential viewing of any kind unless you like Zeon lore. Igloo 2 is abysmal with that whole personification of death angle, making it all just seem so silly and edgy in its execution.
Sorry to see that the Big Green video was taken down. I would have loved to hear the rest of that live commentary.
But I will be patiently waiting for the Seed Destiny video.
"In all these stories about heroes... there's always one character that sacrifices themself to save the day.
but the thing with all these stories is... that hero doesn't get to see if their sacrifice made a difference.
They just have to have faith.
Ain't that a bitch?"
The story about Zudah get even more interesting if you're a historical tank enthusiast cause it resembles part of the development history of VK 45.01 (P) a.k.a Porsche Tiger and Henschel Tiger which later become the Tiger I. Yes, both Zudah & Porsche Tiger are considered as failed prototype against their competitor that later get mass produced.
Don’t forget the Komet, as the vernier thrusters that mobile suits use are basically rocket engines after all, and the Komet’s rocket engine killed quite a few of its pilots.
Thank you for all your hard work and all the great reviews. Will be excited to watch you trash talk something for a change haha.
I gotta say destiny is painful lol
@@Retcon404 As a fan of SEED, the Destiny one is indeed painful. Destiny is what you get if you rushed a sequel with only months time of working on a Gundam show. Plus, the writer wasn't exactly in a good health when the show was going. I would've said that Destiny is a total trainwreck if not for the still-banger music & cool designs (that still sell kits like hot cakes today).
The one Gundam series I know literally next to nothing about!
It was so nice seeing that big ass cannon in the 0083 manga.
Awesome video! Knowing nothing, I assumed Igloo was probably bad, but this definitely makes me want to watch it now. Im also really curious about seed destiny cause I only hear bad things about it. Lol.
igloo is amazing, and i would highly recomend to anyone who enjoys war dramas. its the most UC side story alongside war in the pocket and 08th ms team. only bad thing about it is that the CG did not age well. but its still watchable at the very least, hell, i would rather watch MS Igloo than the discount CG from origin. story is far more understandable as well for non fans.
The hldorfil makes a cameo in code fairy story mode apart that you can use it on gb02
Those shaking fits are what’s called Malaria.
YEEESSSSSSSS deep destiny dive! Can't wait
Ah, when Gundam explored (and got lost) in the Uncanny Valley 👌🏽
You better start a prayer before getting into GSD. As someone whose first Gundam was Cosmic Era, I might've got my own idea to fix it in mind. CE is my favourite timeline plus the GuAIZ R is underrated IMO. Lunamaria wouldn't have miss much of the action had she's in the GuAIZ R instead of the ZAKU Warrior, as the shield would've absorbs much of that kamikaze's impact. Not a bad design but the ZAKU Warrior should belong in where it should be at.
Edit: the Hildofr is the MVP here. Funny because ZAFT would've steam roll every EA ground elements with just the ZuuOT in SEED lol
Sounds like an Armored Core soundtrack was used for bedding... around 5 or 6 minute mark
Hyped for more Gundam and other analysis; you're improving fast.
Thank you! "G-M" is how I say the GM name too, like I say Version KA and not "K-A."
my only exposure and time i get an introduction to MS IGLOO was thru those turn-based tactical SD Gundam titles.
igloo 2 believe showed of the federation side of things like the anti-mech troops which is just as brutal.
NGL Duvale was kinda right that the Zudah did have potential, cause finally, it got a stronger used by the Dom, but it also got new limiters and parts that it desperately needed from the Gyan, making it the Zudah F
14:41 Ah another person who calls it the “Gee Emm”. I thought I was the only one who refused to call it “Jim”.
The Hidolfer is badass but my allegiance lies within the cockpit of a Xamel
"We called it Opertaion British, because the plan is to send a bunch of trash to Australia." - Lt. Colonel Meridith Funkytown, Zeon Special Operations Command
Not the original intent though.
The animation of this reminds me of that Starship Troopers show.. Roughnecks
The animation of MS IGLOO reminds me of the CG Captain Scarlet series.
Both look equally uncanny but are decent enough in their own right.
MORE IGLOO
LETS GO E+IGLOOOO
Hell yeah
MS IGLOO... The MS IGLOO duology (HOYW/Apocalypse 0079 and 2: Gravity Front) in general is one I'm not in any rush to watch. It's an interesting experiment, focusing on the Zeon perspective for a change in the first entries, and lacking a proper Gundam, instead allowing grunts time in the spotlight. However, the CG is a bit uncanny, and from what I've heard, MS IGLOO 1's episodes are really formulaic, following the exact same plot each episode most of the time. It's not like the prior four OVAs (0080: War in the Pocket, 0083: Stardust Memory, The 08th MS Team and Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz). MS IGLOO was an experiment done to celebrate 25 years, and it should be viewed as such. The Zudah episode which closes HOYW is pretty appealing, however, and I dig the focus on Zeeks and grunts.
Now SEED Destiny... Good luck. You're gonna need it. What Witch from Mercury is now, was what SEED Destiny was in 2004: popularity not equalling quality at its finest.
the only problem with the "first pair" of MS igloo is the aged CGI. but story wise, its amazing. it is exactly what people ask for when it comes to UC. gritty, not afraid of killing, sad but poingnant, and above all, giving us a glint of the horrors of war.
its not perfect, sure, but i would put it closer to something like band of brothers. with small short stories.
there's also a point to be made about it being the most grounded gundam has ever gotten, alongside war in the pocket. no super powers, no time bending robots, no new types. just soldiers trying not to die.
Him saying he won't pronounce gm correctly feels a lot like an angry wife doing things just to provoke her husband so he'll want a divorce
17:29 He's gonna cover the bootleg 1991 Russian over-dub of Dead Zone! It's finally happening people!
Weird and whacky wunderwaffe!
Earth and Sweetwater were 3D in CCA
Wooooooo
While I have nothing against putting a human face on the enemy, Zeon are still the bad guys. They're not good. Team Federation for life!
You might prefer MS IGLOO 2. Its from the Federation perspective, I'll be getting to that one soon enough as well.
I feel like Zeon is really only the absolute bad guys if you agree with Gihren aka Actual Space Hitler. The Federation extremists (which would basically be extreme right-wingers in today's world) that exemplified hatred and terrorism towards spacenoids basically started the aggressive action. See the Laplace Incident. I mean, the whole thing with "micro-aggressions" is that eventually they lead to real, obvious, apparent aggressions. People who do things like that have already made it clear they don't want to talk and have no interest in discussion and understanding. They only seek to prod and poke until those they are acting against take a stand, and then they conveniently tend to go "heyyyy what's going on, I/we don't deserve THAT; well you started it, you asked for it, time to escalate." Then they do a little propaganda and look clean and "good," and voila! Instant social engineering. Not saying Zeon is totally defensible but the message of Gundam is typically that both sides of any conflict typically have some really gross stuff going on behind the scenes and those that seem to look the cleanest are working the hardest to scrub off the gunk.
Just some thoughts to chew on!
Huh, I had pretty much zero interest in the Seed Destiny video until your final line. And now I'm actually looking forward to watching it. 👍
nice
hildolfr is awesome
awesome video, are u gonna watch the others 6 episodes?
The story is done well in sd gundam g genesis
I have been truly enjoying your videos for a while now as an old Gundam fan (pre-wing in fact)
But I truly didn't understand your greatness until 14:45. Yes. It's GM. Not Jim.
5:23 completely disagree. the show does a great job of explaining and setting things up for non gundam fans. for example, it talks about the behind the scenes, sure, but its done in a way that its easy to follow.
not only that but the story focus far more on character discussions, and how they see the war. which allow people to piece together their own image of what is going on.
also, i have shown igloo to friends with no UC knowledge, and not only were they able to understand the show, but also liked it alot.
I liked this video but I cant wait to see you rip SEED destiny a new one!
IGLOO 1 is about zeon and IGLOO 2 is about the federation
one thing i don't get about the zuda is it has the same engine as the dom yet the dom is fine so what am i missing?
Thought you’d cover season 2 of igloo as well
next is Destiny?
Ho Boi, gonna be hitting some truely angry stuff; the series writer being an absolute terror for the rest of the crew out of spite, forever doomed to limbo of fanfiction.
@ recon have you seen gundam seed stargazer???
When are you gonna talk about Getter Robo?
You should take about crossbone gundam, info on the net is very limited and can't be buying manga from Japan everytime I finish it.
IGLOO Battle of Loum or Origin Battle of Loum
Ahh.. where every prototype pilots die except for the developer
Did I miss it somewhere in the vid? Why is it called IGLOO? Just some random military code name, or was there something else to it?
This series basically showed me one of the (many, many, many) reasons zeon lost the war
It’s because they made a bunch of stupid wunder weapons
I watched the English Dub, which might've made things funnier.
No no G M is correct. But I love the Zudah.
I am very conflicted on Igloo. The CGI is ugly, but the premise is great. The characters are mostly two-dimensional but the fights are good. I unironically think episodes 1 and 2 were entertaining enough but some of the others are downright nonsensical (looking at you, needlessly complex z'gok rocket). The zudah looks awesome but I'm not sure why I'm supposed to feel bad for engineers who lost the zeon contract to the zaku when they made a suit that puts its pilots in extreme danger and then lied about it. Also why do the GMs explode when they boost too much? They don't do that in literally any other piece of Gundam media. I do like a few Igloo episodes and I think that if you remove the ridiculous shinigami subplot from the Feddie episodes they're all pretty good.
Still I get why people like it, and all respect to those who do. I hope you all have a great day.
i liked igloo 2: the cgi was much better and, the tank squad vs zakus was crazy
you mean the third one, the second one is apocalypse. also the first episode is the only good one of the 3 in that series, and that's saying alot when it ends with a magical earthbending zaku...
earth bending zaku, what?@@marcosdheleno
@@andrzejwysocki609 a zaku literaly sprouts out of the ground at the end of the first episode.
its been almost a decade since i saw the ep, its not impossible to camouflage a ms, i mean they buried a gundam in the desert in 08 ms team@@marcosdheleno
@@andrzejwysocki609 i would advise you to rewatch that episode then. it sucks because the episode is amazing, up until that last bit.
also, the zaku isnt hiding or camouflaged. its literaly buried and it rises from the ground like a building sized zombie.
IGLOO is one of the worst UC spinoffs but you gotta love the Hildolfr and Zudah, which are easily two of the coolest MS in the entire series