Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory | The Gundam Retrospective
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- Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory is a 13 episode OVA originally released in 1991 from the months of May through September. Heavily inspired by American 80's action films such at Top Gun, Stardust Memory is loved by some and hated by others. Let's take a look back and see just how 0083 stacks up to the legacy of the seminal mecha franchise.
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The Kou & Kelly fixing the Mobile Armor montage is the Gundam version of the "grown ass men playing shirtless volleyball" scene from '86 Top Gun.
Now that I think about it... you're right. This is the MANservice part of the show like in Top Gun.
Which is hilarious because I feel like most people would rather Kou and Kelly over anything to do with Nina.
I adore the changes 0083 Rebellion made to the fallout of that scene. Because SO MUCH changed as of the Val Varo fight.
Kou and Kelly otp fuck nina
Top Gun filmmakers: the scene is for the ladies
Top Gun fans: this seen is homoerotic
Me: why not both?
Fun fact Burning’s GM was actually meant to be the mass produced Alex you can even see dozens of similarities between both designers
Oh that's awesome! I'll have to go look at some pics on the wiki later.
Actually! The “GM custom” and the GM cannon are sort of the mass production compromises of the gundam alex. The GM custom is still not a mass produced suit but its the predecessor to GM III, GM Quell and the later Jegan
@@Theogrn don't forget the Cluster Fuck known as the Hazel
@@Theogrn yeah. The GM Custom's face is definitely based on the Jegan, and it's face also looks like a Jesta as well.
GM custom use some of the tech got from NT1 which is the Alex, and then the GM custom got partial movable frame, where they make the skeleton for the mobile suit, and it got to GM quell which some improvement, after all of that GM custom and GM quell tech to Gundam Mk ii
Setting up the Titans makes the show worth it all on its own.
0083 leads to the creation of the Titans, and their destruction in Zeta leads to a cowardly and ineffective Federation in ZZ. The Titans reradicalized the Spacenoids for Char's Counterattack, and ZZ showed why the Federation struggled to stop him.
Then the death of Char sets up the disillusioned Sleeves in Unicorn, and the corruption of the Federation radicalizes Hathaway.
It is a great grand narrative.
0083 feels like the Gundam equivalent to _The Empire Strikes Back_ It ends on so many down notes. Zeon lost the war but Gato succeeds in carrying out Operation Stardust.
Gato's actions paved the way for the Titans and the absolute tragedy that would be the events of _Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam_
And Zeta Gundam will be Empire Strikes Back as a whole considering nobody ever really won at the end of it
Zeta Gundam is the definition of the idea that you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
I love 0083 and I think the reason it isn't more universally liked is the uneven writing. The baffling unreasonable plot twist with Nina is hard to get over.
Yeah, honestly I dont even think it is a terrible twist, they just needed to actually put time into making it makes sense, and they didn't lol
There is a 0083 Manga that tries to go in and expand it.
@@martinhennigan1113 0083 Rebellion is amazing, makes it clear she was really trying hard for a semi peaceful end. Also makes it clear that shooting at Kou was a Negligent Discharge by an idiot civilian. To the point both Kou and espescially Gato kinda roll their eyes at it.
@@DIEGhostfish really? That does sound much better. I honestly didn't mind it that much, I was able to take it as part of the overall pretty good package so it didn't ruin it, but that does still sound way better.
Nina could have been handled way better. She could have been somewhat of a tsun tsun female character. Which is actually what the original director i think was going for. But the next director, obviously didn't figure that out. And obviously didn't like her for whatever the reason was. And made her unlikable at the end. To me the second director character assassinated her. And made sure to do it with that bs twist. And to add a cherry on a crap sundae, made things between them unresolved. Which also was stupid and i put the blame on the second director. If i could yell at that person i would to be honest. lol
All I know is that song “MAGIC” that plays when Kou and Kelley are working on the mobile armor straight SLAPS and my wife and I jam to it regularly on road trips lol
One of the craziest things about 0083 is that it somewhat ties into 08th MS Team due Cima being a part of Shiro's flashback of the Side 2 colony gassing. There's more to it but it does help explain why she betrayed Delaz and tried to help the Federation.
Also would've preferred if Nina was more Gato's long lost sister than lover, as it makes better sense from a storytelling standpoint.
and a parallel to Sayla Mass
same but that would've been a rehash of Sayla and Char but its better than that nonsensical romance that came out of nowhere
@@shadowofthenorthstar989yeah but Gundam does love to constantly recreate Char and Saila
Monsh is suppose to represent the failings of the federation and the kind of people that the Titans will actively recruit from the federation ranks. Aiming for the power hungry and the brutish rather then the skilled.
A side Manga also shows that Monsh goes on to stick with the Titans throughout their existence and then fleeing to a Zeon Remnant on Mars to escape the war crimes that he knows he committed. Showing that his likes being the irresponsible jerk because that ismwhat allowed him to succeed
Wait, I know Monsh lives long enough through 0083 to join as a member of the titans but he lives long enough to earn a war crime record (Not surprising) being a member of the titans but he actually joins the Zeon Remnant?
Do you know where I should looking?
Wait, 0083 Rebellion seemed to make it like he was going to redeem himself (Something he really needed to earn because he did some FAR worse things in Rebellion than in the base show.) Which side manga had him stick with the Titans and wind up with Mars Zeon (Or is that 0083 Rebellion and the teased redemption is a fakeout)
I personally love 0083. It's not my favorite gundam show ever, but has probably my favorite mech design in the entire series
It was one of my first introduction to gundam with Gundam Wing and I love the authentic designs.
As I also knew nothing of the One Year war I still love this series. It shows that the good guys don't always win and the good faction can be just as despicable and the bad guys.
Nina still sucks as a person however
This was my first exposure to Gundam all the way back in 1991. Still my personal favorite so far. And yes, Nina is an asshole.
Only problem with this is the protagonist being very whiny. Unfortunately that is mostly a standard in the UC universe. One of my favorite series though. The opening GM backpack testing battle animation is still amazing to watch. The art is beautiful.
What's your favorite?
Besides the unconvincing romance subplot, the show is great, the over the top villainness reminded me of cowboy bebop, and she dies cowboy bebop style too if im being honest. Katoki and co. really crushed not just with the design of the gundams etc. but with the design of the main battle ship, and every screen, radar, etc. you see in the OVA is usually doing 'something' and is not just window dressing or complete gibberish. Especially the radar operator who sits behind the captains, their readout actually changes depending on whats happening with a lot of details thrown in. Nina wasn't an irredeemable character though, she was just written by men lmao. The idea of Anaheim having their own reps handhold their gundams in deployment is an idea that carries over into Gundam Unicorn, with Alberto Vist being assigned to Londo Bell and trying to get Von Braun's grubby hands on the RX-0. Anaheim doesn't just sell Zeta Type mobile suits they force the service package in the contract. It's good world building, her inclusion was fitting, the conceit behind how she was basically left alone with a giant nuke machine though was a bit of a flub.
Here's some added info: the japan-exclusive gundam mobile game U.C. Engage has some additional backstory to 0083 (then again, the purpose of U.C. Engage is that its story weaves through different UC shows). The first event for the game is focused on Gato during the OYW. We get to see how Kelly loses his arm and how Gato fought in Solomon (how he got his monikier "nightmare of solomon"). The other 0083 related event was the third event for the game's main character Peche Montagne. We officially find out that the Von Braun branch of Anaheim is comprised of mostly former Zeonic and Zimmad employees (we see Orville as one of the mechanics for Peche's Engage Zero; the Engage Project being a base and simultaneous project with the GP series (from what I understood at least)); the official pilot for the GP04 (which became the Gerbera Tetra) was Peche (she actually fought Cima but was forced to stop and hand over the MS). The animation used in the game is here on TH-cam so there's no need for you to play the game if don't want to.
As for the sudden romance between Kou and Nina, yes, it was totally sudden. It was the result of a director change and the result was not good.
Great info, thanks!
Great stuff thanks!!
Yes, this aspect of the series is an echo of themes from the UC that would be developed much fuller later on in series such as Gundam Unicorn. But at this point in the the franchise, such themes were only a hint at bigger schemes in U.C. history.
Man, I never thought there was a female character worse than Quess...until Nina's actions caused MILLIONS of lives lost because of the Titans and the colony drop.
By the time Nina messed around the Colony was GOING to hit. (In the Manga she actually helps break the colony up for the least possible damage, though that was Zeon's plan to begin with, to only fuck up the agricultural heartland and kill as few people as possible. (The fewer people they kill directly the more hungry mouths to make Earth dependent on the Colonies for food)
Speaking of Quess, I read a bit of the Bektochika's Children manga and have a lot more sympathy for her in that context.
Those riot gear cops kidnapping her? They gun down her friends in the manga.
A few fun facts:
-Gundam 0083 changed Directors midway through the OVA. If you wonder why Nina didn't recognize Gato before despite seeing him properly, that's why.
-At the end of the series, the Federation deletes the data on the Gundam Project. In reality, this is because the GP Gundams were TOO advanced for their time. The GP-01 had insane mobility in space past what is shown in Zeta and the GP-03D is strong enough to take down MAs as far as Crossbone Gundam era.
-IBO's Merribit Stapleton has similarities to Nina to the point that Nina and Merribit share the same voice actress in the dub.
Ironic they considered the GP Gundams too advanced, given that the Federation would later make the Unicorn Gundam
@@buenapilapil5513At least the Unicorn felt like a natural evolution of the insanity of the Nu and Sazabi's psychoframe tech, taking it to the extreme. Down to being able to do more insane newtype phenomena. Plus it's weird that later UC just seems to drop funnel weapons after how effective they've proven to be... and especially considering the downgrade that is the funnel missile from Hathaway's Flash.
That explains why they're such high cost suits in GBO2.
@@timebrain3188 Hathaway's flash, is a story that i didn't like. And is right up there with victory gundams story. For least liked UC timeline stories. x. x
Deleting the data of the GP series was really stupid. Delaz already revealed the existance of the GP 1 and 2 to the public, so there was no point in keeping the secret, and losing all the work and research of the GPs was an incredible waste. But you know, continuity.
People say 0083 is "Top Gundam" and I see the reason why......BUT that also means that we now need a "Stardust Memory: Maverick" No excuses.
THere's 0083 Rebellion which is a retelling of the original, and has a few volumes of follow up covering Monsha realizing the Titans are fucking awful (Though someone else says that he ends up sticking with them, does warcrimes, then flees to mars, that might be a different manga.)
This show is better than topgun
Funny anecdote. In the Crossbone manga a story is told about the battle of Solomon but a pilot in the remade Crossbone Vanguard is a feddy OYW vet and tells his story about his custom Ball. His ball had a Gundam face causing Zeon to think that Amuro's Gundam was downed. This caused Gato ( completely in line with how he is in the OVA) to abandon his defense sector and let Amuro through to clear a path for the white Base and the GM teams of other ships.
"Has Kou ever talked to a girl before", when you said that I got to thinking, it's quite possible. I like to think Kou went straight into military training as soon as he became of age, maybe 15 or 16, possibly younger. After all the population of both militarys were so low they were taking teenagers to the front lines at one point. Probably not true as a characteristic of Kou, but I think it could be.
if I remember correctly Kou said he was in the One Year War and the war was just about come to an end so he really didn't do anything. I don't think he was a pilot back then though
@@kmrl5982 that sounds right, I just don't remember how long he had been a test pilot at the beginning of the series. I honestly don't know how long the training is suppose to be for a normal person to even become a pilot in the U.C time-line.
If you watch the show they actually joke that he hasnt.
Kou is literally me, (I have never talked to a woman that wasn't my mom or family)
(Spoilers Tag, if that's necessary)
I dub the female lead in 0083 as Nina Simpleton, due to her poor character presentation. Her inexplicable decisions, some of which threaten the earth itself, and the out of nowhere revelation as Gato's ex-girlfriend left me in dismay, especially when that backstory was not set up at all. And It was a small comfort with the epilogue at the end, when Kou and Nina got back together. In my mind, I thought: You threatened him with a gun before, and now that your ex Gatou is dead, you are all smiles for Kou now? Ugh. That being said, I loved the look and style of the show, and it is still a special Gundam title in many ways. I only lament the messy production it had behind the scenes.
Yeah it's all due to the stuff that happened in the production. That stuff i think was added for extra drama. Where it wasn't needed in the story. Whoever decided on that, shouldn't be making those decisions. lol Should have been a clean romance story. Like it was in 8th ms team gundam.
I really didn't like Nina's return at the end. She SHOT him. Was directly responsible for Kou not stopping a genocidal action, getting him court martialed, etc. And I'm supposed to just think it's okay because she shows up and they smile at each other?
As I saw in the Manga reboot of it that they did, they decided that was so dumb they actually had Kou just imagine he saw Nina instead while she's running off to the edge of the solar system, presumably to "find herself" but you know... she might just also be a fugitive from justice all considered.
The "payoff" if you can call it that for Mancha is that he winds up, seemingly enthusiastically, becoming a Titan. He helps show that there was always the potential in the Federation for things to go off the rails, even when they were the "good guys".
Such things are great narratively, and a good reason to bring out barely named side characters to give them some development.
Given what happens in Hathaway's Flash, the Federation does gradually become the villains.
@@SBaby Feddies are villains as early as the Gryps Conflict
@@skeeter5076 Yeah, though it's more outright stupidity and incompetence than villainy at that point. They just didn't notice that the Titans were as bad as the Zabi family until Char called them out on it.
But they pretty much become almost categorically evil when you get to Hathaway's Flash. A few decades from that point, you'll probably have them twirling their mustaches and going, 'I'll get those Gundam pilots yet!'.
my favorite moment was right after the gundams were wrecked and they physically saw each other in their normal suits, kou's shock in that scene really summed it up for me
(didnt feel too different from distant lovers meeting each other for the first time ngl)
Now wishing the Gundam 0083 Rebellion manga gets an anime adaptation. The manga pretty much expanded and changes parts of the story with additional focus on Cima and even a better turnout for Kelly. It also has cameos from characters from 08th MS Team and MS IGLOO.
Cima's weird motives are fleshed out more in a manga about her origins and history. 0083 was a fun series but having two different directors for the 1st and 2nd half of the OVA series was really jarring from a storytelling perspective.
I'm really interested in reading the 0083 Rebellion manga at some point too
oh! so that's why it suddenly became shit
I'm pretty sure she was apart of the group that gassed the colony that was used in Operation British
@@r1l426 the unfortunate truth of the majority of old gundam series either cut short or different director for the 2nd half that ruin the series
@@treebushvery true.
Only way I can justify Nina’s relationship with Gato is that she may have been a zeonic engineer during the OYW and after absorbed by Anaheim
This was a good series with a bizarre twist at the end. I like alpha female characters like Cima. Gato was good and the MS designs were awesome. The animation was excellent. Man I wish they made anime like this again.
I always felt bad for the guy who was sliced in half by that dom while piloting the white zaku 2...
Minority always dies first movie trope 🤔
He was killed so hard that everyone literally forgets he ever existed
This OVA had my favorite Gundam units and English anime endings. “Magic” is so good 😭
Also I love the beam/boosters in this OVA. The light colored and splashy effects were beautiful. Cima is also pretty cool.
I also love the conspiracy the story setup.
Specifically Conspiracy Sector (ep 8 I think) is really good and tense. They really nailed the 80's action thriller pacing with the ending of that episode.
@Tyler Braden Paradise, Magic, The Winner, Oblivion. All outstanding (Also aren't there two versions of The Winner or Paradise, one with a make vocalist?)
The continual showing of how complacent and incompetent the Federation has became post OYW
The scene with Lieutenant Burning rushing to break his own cast and get out on to the field is about as close as Gundam ever gets to how real concern for fellow military types gets
Mancha does have some significance to the plot, in that he poses the question "why does Ko get to pilot the gundam?" A valid question you can ask any gundam protagonist. And in a way, Mancha is the one who also answers that question. Also by the time the Fb comes along, he's kinda a replacement mentor that Burner was originally filling. Which I would argue also shows growth of character. Not to mention he's like one of the first titans.
I never heard of gundam 0080 stardust memory, must be a prequel to 0083. Hopefully he covers that one next time.
Good catch lol
i miss the realistic style anime so much. made each character look far more personal and easier to connect with. something about eyes that take up half of someones head just creeps me out
I've watched 0083 for tens of times and never realized that Kelly arc could be interpreted like that. Damn I laughed so hard.
0083 is one of my favorite gundam series, it was one of my earliest entire series next to thunderbolt, and war in the pocket. Yeah, it's not the best series compared to others in the UC, but I think the positives out way the negatives, at least for me. And lastly one thing I think makes 0083 really good is when you look at the story as a whole, it's a tragedy or a pointless conflict with no real winners in the end, the zeon remnants ultimately lost to themselves due to internal conflict, the federation lost many members (combatants and non combatants alike), Kelly died to prove his worth but would've equated to nothing if he lived long enough to partake in operation stardust, gato sacrificed his life for a faction that ultimately destroyed itself, burning could've lived long enough to reach his ex wife again if it weren't for his damaged ms, and ko could've had a decent relationship with nina if had learned to talk to girls sooner.
The winner is the one of the best Gundam theme songs!!!!!!!
It's in heavy rotation on my Spotify now
Well you've neatly summed up why I enjoy Stardust so much. It's right up there with the likes of 08th for how grounded the MS are as machines. I can glaze over the character issues and just enjoy it for the immersion of the world it presents.
Aesthetic wise this show is a masterpiece, the peak of 90's animation, on the other hand, the writing of this is... I rolled my eyes too many times at the main characters, it felt like they were either acting like children or written by unexperienced writers, it definitively boggles down the whole series for me, though the last time I watched was some years ago, some day I will give it another shot.
Looking back I think one of the main reasons I like 0083 and by extension 8th MS team is the lack of 'newtypes' both literal and figurative (as most Gundam series has their own version of newtypes). A much more grounded story with significantly less 'space magic'. It's also why I think I gravitated back to Gundam again around the release of Iron Blooded Orphans. Not to mention I really like the art style of 0083. All the surface detail and detail in animation. It's like going from a Gundam model to one that's been scribed and panel lined, it's just so satisfying.
Having watched the OVA and read the manga, I'd say I prefer the manga's difference than the show. Such as Kelly given a main role in helping Kou in the manga rather than being killed by him in the OVA when the two fought at the moon. I hated that part of the OVA and also the fact that Nina interfered in the fight.
As an Armored Core and Metal Gear Solid fan, I really liked the GP02 design. I believe its the first gundam to shoot nuclear warheads in the chronological timeline, similar to the metal gears, and its got those PHAT legs which look like the heavy bipedal legs available to use in the Armored Core series. I liked it so much, I've added the GP02 model kit to my collection and if youre like me and you love to pose figures lemme tell ya-it sucks lol leg too PHAT to pose.
I just gotta say that 0083 is very much one of my absolute favorite Gundam anime, big time (and my absolute favorite is Turn A and Char's Couterattack).
I've heard a ton of good stuff about Turn A!
One of my favorite UC entries. Probably the best 90s animation of the bunch. Love the mobile suits. Live Cima and Gato. They just don’t make them like this anymore.
Kou = If Maverick was half-wimp
Nina = If Charlie was psychotic
Monsha = Iceman but more full of himself (twice as smug)
Keith = Uh, nerdy version of Goose
Gato = Jester but brainwashed with extreme radical ideologies
Burning is Viper
Keith is definitely Bob from the new topgun.
This show is better than topgun
This works entirely too well.
@@brucechmiel7964 they even look somewhat similar
Conflicted feelings on 0083 - good action, animation, and mobile suit designs. But the character work and thematic core seem lesser and shallower than previous UC works - I would have appreciated more focus and time spent on things like the Federation preparing a nuclear-equipped weapon after nukes were outlawed (and they had already won the war), the positioning of the Titans and their use of a tragedy they helped along to justify their formation and rise to power, and AE maneuvering and provoking conflict to ensure their own power and relevance continues to grow.
Instead we got some of the most unlikeable characters in UC, a "romance" plot that is jarring and bizarre, and all in all what feels to me like a lot of wasted potential.
Cima was an interesting character, and her backstory of taking part in Operation British and then being discarded by Zeon after the death of the Zabis leading to resentment and her planned betrayal of the Delaz fleet could have had some interesting parallels with Zeta (her gassing of a colony compared to Reccoa's, her fleet's following horrific orders from higher ups that then distance themselves from them to absolve guilt having parallels to the Federation and Titans). But that's not the story we got.
it suffered from having different writers halfway through the project
0083 Rebellion manga. Read it. It's an amazing alternate telling.
the characters were enjoyable for me, i loved gato since he wasn't just a patriot guy he had some cool moments such as teaching kou during their fight and having to stop himself from doing so. Nina I feel was justified in helping gato since they were ex lovers. The captain of the albion and kous leader was really interesting as well since they had good solid ideas and were decent people outside of work as well.
I remember really liking '83, but I certainly share the opinion that a bunch of character decisions make no sense whatsoever.
Now, next week's series... I'm gonna have to stand up for that one.
I fell in love with the shows ending theme. Definitely very 80’s feeling. Another thing I liked especially back when they still animated on cells is the atmosphere they are able to pull off with the paintings and backgrounds. A good example is the first couple episodes when they are in that foggy mountain area. As an artist it really inspires me
I find it intriguing you call this a divisive entry, as I've always noticed it being one of the most universally praised of the whole metaseries.
Your content is great! Thanks for your time and insight!
0083: Stardust Memory is a show I'm very looking forward to watching. I mean, a ragtag band of EFSF pilots and crewmen in hot pursuit of a stolen Gundam and a Zeon fleet? The events that lead to Zeta Gundam? An RX-78-inspired machine versus a demonic counterpart armed with a nuke? Sign me up!
Also, Shoji Kawamori's designs are excellent (I own the old High grade of the GP01 and the Master Grade of its FB version), and in fact, a storyboard artist for 0083 would work on Kawamori's own mech franchise years later as the director of Macross Plus. Just thought you should know.
I really need to watch Macross
@@Retcon404 Apparently the only ones worth watching are Super Dimension Fortress Macross (which would be adapted as Robotech season 1) and Macross Plus (film originally released as an OVA before making its theatrical run). The rest are VERY divisive with their tone/focus change from "desperate struggle for the survival of mankind" to "rock/pop stars are the greatest heroes ever". Needless to say, I think Gundam, with exception of those awful Build spin-offs, has had a greater grasp on what it's meant to be in its many followup and AU shows than the Macross sequel shows (though I WILL watch SDF Macross one of these days).
Oh, and the 0083 Storyboard artist/Macross Plus director would go on to make a show that is the complete antithesis of other Sci-Fi anime called Cowboy Bebop. Just thought you should know.
@@NebLleb The first build spinoff was amazing and I will not hear it slandered. It's Gundam Valhalla where the characters get the peaceful life with friends they were denied in their original series. I've heard nothing good about the followups.
@@DIEGhostfish build diver re-rise is unexpectedly good. Try it
I remember first seeing this on Adult Swim's first anime block back in 2002.
Oddly enough this year marks the 20th anniversary of this show's first airing on American nighttime programming back in the day.
Does the GP-02 having a nuke technically make it a Metal Gear? It can't be!
METAL GEAR!?
Been watching these gundam retrospectives for a week now and I just now remembered to sub lol
This was the Gundam that hooked me on Gundam. All my classic Gundam friends couldn't understand why I held 83 so high.
Interesting fact as Nina's relationship with Gato doesn't come from nowhere as when she is talking to Kelly she yells at him to stop and that he is acting just like Gato. Plus with the letter Gato sent to Kelly this further reinforces the idea that all 3 knew each other at least well enough for Kelly to recognize Nina's voice over the radio. So while I agree it wasn't super well done there were at least some hints. My own head Canon was that the reason Nina was drawn to Kou was that Gato in his youth may have been much like Lou before the one year war changed him for the worse. After all during the 3 fights between them Gato could have killed him but his need to get the Gundam out caused him to leave Kou alive, his 2nd fight he let his arrogance get the better of him thus giving Kou the opportunity to turn the fight into a draw, while by the time of there 3rd fight Kou's skill and experience had reached the point where he could match Gato on an even playing field.
"beautiful animated" is almost an understatement, stardust memory (also 8th ms team) is amazing, is incredible not only how good it aged but how it is able to surpase 99% of all anime we have today imo (I know thse sound like fighting words, but take it as an opinion). Wish we were back to a time with VHD: Bloodlust looking anime
Doing a great job with these videos..may be my 4th time returning to this..
This is one of the top gundam series, 08th ms team, stardust and the whole one year war series are top 3. This is a fantastic series and I'll die on this hill.
Birth of the Titans
The animation style for this series is some of my favorites. Can't get enough of the older 90's stuff. Grew up to it. I see Junji Ito in the background. great manga series. 🤘
I always saw Gato as the main character...defeated veteran of war carrying out one last mission for the glory of Zeon....
Yass! It's about time! 0083 is my favorite Gundam show!
Unit 2 is the coolest suit and Gato is a great villain.
I've got a Perfect Grade GP-01
Based Unit 2 enjoyer
@Sakata Gintoki right, but Tallgeese doesn't have a fleet destroying nuke gun.
That model kit where it has wings like Zero and a lance is pretty dope
@Sakata Gintoki I like the big bulky look of GP-02. Its chunky in all the right ways.
I'm also a huge Zaku fan, I like the chunkier, blockier looking suits. The slim sleek ones seem like they'd break on their own before they got in a fight.
The skinny little waist on Barbados looks completely awful to me.
haha I love fat gundam, he looks so grumpy.
@Sakata Gintoki that's a fair opinion to have, I still like GP-02 better.
Layzner is named after an amazing early 80s real robot mecha anime that I hope you do a video on someday! The Japanese voice actor for Kelly Layzner played the voice of an AI installed in the titular SPT Layzner. His girlfriend/nurse also played a computer voice on Layzner.
For my money Stardust (at least the dub) does the best job of really humanizing most of the people on screen. People act like people, they banter, they bicker, they complain about aspects of their job, strike up casual conversation, etc. I appreciate the effort and it made me care about ancillary background characters since the show makes it clear these are actual human beings. Oh and the MS aesthetic absolutely rocks.
The version of Top Gun where everyone dies
Ah man Stardust Memory! I remember seeing it on a PV on my Gundam Wing Endless Waltz DVD!
But my god 0083 reeks of 90s and is damn good. The machines are great, battles are great and Gato was just awesome!
Great review man!
First time I watched 0083 was on Adult Swim's Saturday anime night somewhere 19-20 years ago. Love the character designs, sadly the story is all over the place since by halfway in the directors changed.
Same. The intro with Kou running as the UC years ticked by from 0079 to 0083 used to get me so amped up and remains one of the best anime openings ever made.
Which episode it started to go way off again? Haven't watch it in a while.
I love 0083, it is an absolute jam and I like Kou even though I can absolutely understand why he's not particularly popular. Thanks for highlighting this one, my man
One thing that always bugged me a little bit was that they acted like the Federation having a nuke was such a huge deal, but Zeon always had a new giant city-leveling Mobile Armor Wunderwaffe every 2 weeks.
I was about to rationalize that, but honestly, you are right there.
For those who are curious about the Japanese dub, Uraki is voiced by Ryo Horikawa who is better known for his voice work as Vegeta of Dragonball fame, while Gato is voiced by Akio Otsuka who is better known for his role as Solid Snake, Venom Snake, and Naked Snake/ Big Boss from the Metal Gear series.
It sort of has a funny future reference with the knowledge of Metal Gear with Gato stealing a robot (Gundam) with a nuclear weapon. 0083 almost feels like a Metal Gear story, a Metal Gear story where Big Boss actually uses the nuclear weapon from Metal Gear, dies in a blaze of glory, and we witness the changing world in the aftermath.
Personally, 0083 was the best series in terms of story, dialogue, music, and that gorgeous animation.
another absolute banger of a video! the characters are definitely alot more dull than what the show was known for!
Thanks CT!
0083 and the 08th MS Team are definitely my favorite Gundam series specifically because I love the Top Gun influences.
I don't want to see a show about some psychic kid. I just want to see regular mobile suit pilots in their mobile suits in a semi-realistic/plausible combat scenario and a story built around that.
I also don't like ultra futuristic designs like you see in other Gundam series and 0083 doesn't have that. It's mobile suit designs are way more grounded (as well as 08th MS Team's designs).
I also like when the pilots are actually wearing a flight suit and helmet or a space suit for space combat as opposed to typical anime/manga main character get up.
I just had to look up Dendrobium. Dendrobium Orchid is a type of flower plant species found in throughout Southeast Asia and many Pacific islands. Dum but that’s one way to name a Mobile Suit when it was built and awaited testing on the ship named La Vie en Rose. Me being an old Gundam fan myself I never thought to look this all up till you pronounced Dendrobium and I was curious what it meant. Thinks for the awesome video. HAIL ZEON!!!
All the Gundam Development Project units have botanical codenames. GP-01 Zephyranthes =Zephyr lily, GP-02 Physalis = Peruvian groundcherry, GP-03 Dendrobium = Dendrobium orchid, comprising the Stamen mobile suit & Orchis weapons platform, AGX-04 Gerbera Tetra = Transvaal daisy.
Can't wait for Victory review one of my favorites but another great one in the book
The GM Custom is peak mecha design
oo83 is my favorite. it saved UC Gundam for me.
I think the payoff Mancha and Co bring asshats is that last scene where you see them become titans. It foreshadows the problems with organization.
Cima should have been the main antagonist. She was too cool and badass. And the animation looks great. Seriously, it is very detailed and polished. I can see why most fans like it, at least for the visuals.
I am currently reading through 0083 Rebellion and it really does a good job at fleshing out some of the characters (specially Kou's interest in machines) and it has a lot of cool variants of the establish MSes i.e Chobham GP-01 and Aqua GP-01.
This is by far my favorite gundam series since I first saw it as a kid being very interested in different types of gundam stories since I really wanted to know the root cause of the wars searching through googles lead me to this series along with the beautiful designs of my favorite mechanical designer Katoki Hajime!
love the opening theme
The music and dub work in perfect symbiosis for this scene 4:00.
Not having kids in it and not having the "muh war is bad" message crammed into every single frame automatically makes this series an absolute treat.
I find it a bit odd that you would say this show was "divisive" and had "middling reviews" as besides the bad romantic angle which is universally panned, this series seems to be held in very high regard by the fandom.
I’ve seen so many polarized opinions on this show so it’s fair to call it divisive
One of the best opening songs to any Gundam series!
Man of destiny
I think Mancha (spelling?) exists to show us what kinds of EFSF members became the titans, you're supposed to hate him and see how earth became the bad guys. This is a prequel to zeta afterall.
Well they did a good job because I DO hate him. I just wish his character had more to do other than the 1 scene where they help Kou get the Unit 3. He deserved more payoff imo.
Oh there’s going be a payoff around the manga involving that character trust me.
Regarding his harassments, I imagine that people like him were a problem in the military in the 80's/90's (even still today apparently)
@@jimbowlaster3659 In 0083 Rebellion or a different one? Someone said something about him NOT leaving the Titans till the very end and needing to flee to Mars. 0083 Rebellion seemed to be hinting he'd be quitting the Titans at some point, but I've only seen up to Volume 17 translated, has anyone else other than Zeonic done more?
@@Retcon404 Apparently Kilimanjaro episode never happened?
It's kinda weird that in the manga the characters are allot more likable
Some the the characters that died in the anime either don't die or die later on getting to know them better before death
Also you get fanservice seeing characters from other gundam's shows
This is one of my favorites
This series has middling reviews?
from the moment I joined gundam fandom I had people yelling at me to watch this, that this is one of the if not THE best spin off/OVA in the franchise.
I see people shit on it all the time lol
Maioly I’m shocked to hear this as well ! Of all the shit gundam shows out there THIS one has middling reviews ??! I think it’s one of the very best and I’ve only heard great things about it !
@@tharealest8190 99.99999% of negative reviews are down to Nina's twist and Kou seeming to forgive her.
@@Retcon404 ironically if you look at the Japanese polls, its the highest rated UC OVA besides Unicorn.
You always remember your first gundam and this was mine. Back in 93 viz comics bought out a comic of this that took frames from the ova. I saw this as a pirate video that was subtitled as getting gundam back in the early 90s was hella hard.
My absolute favorite Gundam series. My friend, they got me in the gundam. Gives me a lot of crap about that lol.
Kou Uraki is one of the best non new type pilot. Right next to the pilot of the Byarlant Custom from Gundam Unicorn.
I love Gundam Matt Berry, great work.
Surprised to find out this wasn't loved as much as I did when I saw it in early 2000's on dvd's. I loved the animation quality and the character progression of the main char not being good and immature but gets better by the end
"This Zaku manoeuvres like shit" - *Sad Zaku Noises*
Stardust memory is my personal top 3 Gundam series.
Cima is such a fantastic character, being totally disillusioned by being asked to commit war crimes by Zeon on fellow colonists. Also one of the first strong female characters in Gundam that isn't used as a romantic interest.
The amount of love for stardust makes me jealous I wish it was as good as it was for everyone else
That by far is one of the greatest gundam shows out there
Dendrobium is the mobile armor the Gundam is gp03 stamen the names come from floral term the Ms that cima use in the latter part is another gp0 Gundam the 4th one Gerbera in the typical Anaheim electronic fashion was sold under the table
Actually the armor is called the Orchis and together with the Stamen they make the Dendrobium. According to Gundam wiki anyway.
@@Retcon404 hmmm good to know
Moncha is a shining example of the personnel make up of the Titans
Back to Paradise Getz me every time
I love 0083. It's honestly one of my favorites in the franchise. It does a great job bridging the gap between the OG and Zeta and has compelling characters and conflicts in its own right. It also had my favorite mobile armor, the Val Varo. That said, I agree that some of the characters are a bit static.
I definitely feel for Kou's ineptitude with female relationships because I was definitely at that awkward stage myself when I first saw the series 20+ years ago: I didn't go as far as to borrow books from the library about the issue, but still. Other than that, it is interesting that he's likely the least ideologically driven protagonist in those earlier series, and Gato even points that out to him on several occasions.
As for Gato, I simply love the guy. He's this radicalized idealist that comes across as both very calculated and crazed at the same time. The dude basically talks about Zeon like it's a religion, and that zealotry clashes well with Kou's rather murky ideological stance.
I may get flack for this, but I really like Nina. She's a bit dense early on but really opens up, becoming a much more complicated character by the end. Yeah, she makes some poor decisions, but the entirety of Zeta Gundam isn't her fault. Her like is surprisingly messy, and it takes a toll on her by the end of the show. I even like her hesitancy upon seeing Kou at the end of the show: it's this moment of "Oh, crap. I screwed up real bad and don't know what he's gonna think of me," and it's written all over her face in that moment. As a result, it's not really clear what happens between her and Kou afterward, which I think is a nice touch.
As for Nina and Gato, their relationship happens after the OYW before 0083: Gato explicitly says as much during the confrontation on the colony so, no, he wasn't juggling a relationship while taking out GMs during the Battle of Solomon. This is even slightly hinted at when Kelly, Gato's best friend, recognizes Nina during his fight with Kou. Their relationship didn't make the series for me, but it certainly didn't break anything, either.
All that being said, Mora is best girl. 'Nuff said.
I'm enjoying these Gundam retrospectives. The Albion ship design was always my favorite Gundam base ship style. I enjoyed this show, for it's fun action, but yes it didn't have nearly the depth and character of the original show. A+ for the animation improvements though!