Mobile Suit Victory Gundam | The Gundam Retrospective
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- Mobile Suit Victory Gundam is a full length TV anime series originally released by Sunrise in 1993. Victory would continue the Universal Century timeline of the Gundam franchise, and is still known as the latest animated piece of media in that setting. Marred with production issues and rumored to be effected by its creators own mental health, Victory Gundam is known to fans as a show that may be best avoided. Let's take a look back and see why Mobile Suit Victory Gundam is remembered as a black sheep of the series.
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Katejina character summary
"i can fix him" said the woman who is worse
I like that in the manga, we can see a really old Judau Ashta from ZZ helping Uso.
Yeah, that was cool.
Why dud they cut that our in the anime!
@@Dracobyte because he's not an anime!!
@@Dracobyte It was a side thing in a manga, it was never animated and I think it was published after Victory was aired.
@@lucasoliveirafrancisco6868 bruh.....get out! 😫😆😆😆😆😆
The Angel Halo being powered by psychics trapped in tubes reminds me of the Golden Throne from WH40K
Yup, love that grimdark aesthetic.
All I feel about Victory at this point is how remarkable of a 180 Tomino took going from it to Turn A by the end of the decade. That said, I think that late UC period had a lot of potential if they wanted to go with more of a Warring States era but with space colonial power blocs concept rather than another Fascist empire threatening a very poorly governed Earth.
I'm looking forward to Turn A when i get there.
I love turn a.
It honestly makes more sense considering how incompetent the feds seem to be, at minimum by this point if not sooner. So ya, a fractured Warring States period makes way more sense.
@@hawkticus_history_corner Its a mix of corruption and incompetance. Time and time again the federation has been shown to be severely corrupt in the higher ranks. Their incompetance comes in when they continue to promote those from the middle ranks to higher ranks despite the soldier being promoted constantly failing and getting their comrades killed.
Lastly the thing that makes no sense in canon is how they take certain gundam units and seal them away in a vault somewhere. Many of the MS they do this too are often some of the most powerful mechs the federation has. Now I know the reason for this is based in reality as Sunrise way of sunsetting various mechs so that they're not used again. The list of gundams this has been done to include RX-78-1(the RX-78 prototype), RX-78 NT1 "Alex", GP03 "Stamen", etc.
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Playing SRW alpha, the game includes the moment where Uso and Chronicle clash and Katejina gloats about how she has them fighting to the death for her, and I immediately send my main character to one hit kill Chronicle, not only robbing her of a cock fight, but turning Katejina from a cackling witch to a raging psycho, and cause I used zeal, I shoot her down the same turn.
You could say you... cock-blocked her.
HA! I kill me.
you my friend are BASED af
I watched V and ZZ alternatively in the same time frame. One made me sad, the other made me laugh. It has to be this way
that because it call Universe Century if not I had nothing to said.
It is the way.
I started watching V Gundam after I finished ZZ, the change of ZZ's comical vibe to Victory's tense vibe totally caught me off guard
@@lukas3.051 which is why i watched them alternatingly. V is so bleak at times, I need ZZ's humor to balance it out.
You should also take a look at Crossbone Gundam manga while still have memory of F91 and Victory still fresh, and may be discuss why Crossbone is so successful at least on the figure and model side even without an anime.
Seconded, Crossbone is like the Zeta of F91, I love it to bits, and the RG is one of the most impressively small kits I've ever built.
I mean…I feel like it’s so successful on the model kit/figure front because who doesn’t like Giant Robots with Pirate iconography?
@@paulhorneschillings1212 I think Crossbone is more like the _Double Zeta_ of F91. When I heard Crossbone continued the story of F91, I was expecting something more or less in line with F91's mature tone. But Crossbone is very wacky. There's a tonal whiplash into camp, you have technologies that don't quite fit with the rest of UC lore like Dogatie's bio-brains, and things get even sillier with Steel Seven. Not that that's bad, just like ZZ isn't bad, it's just a similar shift. And aside from Zabine, it's not a conclusion to the open threads of F91, we don't know how that Cosmo Babylonia conflict itself resolved.
Zanscare's bug aesthetic was like something out of Dunbine, which I thought was cool.
He should make a review of dunbine.
Tomino has said some contradicting things about victory in several interviews but in one interview he did mention how he was depressed and having "issues with women" when he did victory
It's been a bit since I watched Victory, so a lot of the specific plot points are pretty faded in my memory.
One moment that still sticks with me is pretty early on in the show, when Uso defeats a squad of 3-4 guys. The squad leader realizes not only are there kids as young as 13 fighting in this war, but said 13-year-old beat him. He urges Uso to get out of the war as soon as he can, and kills himself with a grenade.
Also Stand Up to the Victory is a banger opening. Horribly unfitting for the show, but still!
I'd probably watch the show just to see Flanders. He really does seem like such a good boy.
He's one of the best boys.
Time to mark myself out as a weirdo, but honestly, I love Bespa's whole biker insect design style, especially the helicopter transformations. So impractical, so weird, so hilarious, and yet, still cool.
Bespa's insect theme is underrated imo and some of my fav designs in Gundam for how out there they are.
I do agree with what you say about the show overall. One thing that doesn't get enough credit thought is that characters come up with vary inventive tactics in fights. Like the microwave ray in that one episode, or detatching a MS to distract an opponent which kept the battles pretty engaging at points. Also I liked most of the late show zanscare MS and ships designs like the Squid class ships, along with the ships having giant beam shields.
League Militaire engineers in tears after Uso wastes 50 leg parts for swag strats
Victory is severely underrated and underwatched. It feels like many don't make it past 0079, and the older fans may have moved on with life.
modern anime fans are insufferable in general, since they don't want to watch or understand anything old let alone appreciate it.
I like victory a lot. It doesn't do anything the best but I think Uso is one of my favorite protagonists in the franchise. The supporting cast are also pretty good especially Marbet and Roberto.
The political setting is also really interesting and you can see how it ties into events set up in things like Hathaway and F91.
I really wasn't bothered by the children like a lot of people.
Really helps that the series has my favorite mecha design in the Victory, Gun EZ and reinforce Jr.
@@Sundorwave victory is severely underrated, especially when it comes to mecha desings
Oh chinchin
For context, VG was written when Tomino was under severe depression, which was partially the result of corporate decision interfering his writing (such as the arrangements of the first 4 episodes and the inclusion of some warships with tyres). On the story itself, it's true that the Shakti naïveness has been far overdone, but that aside, it's just great to see this becomes the Gundam anime with most death (and one of the most brutal too, in Uso's mother), and the final scene where Reinforce Jr. just ram into the enemy is for me, the best scene of all Gundam. While Katejina is no doubt the most evil woman of all time, Tomino did explain that letting her live is in fact a more severe punishment than dying, and Shakti's forgiveness in the end was quite fitting to close the UC timeline in heavy despair but with a small ray of hope of forgiveness and new lives from Karl and Marbet. While 00, ZG and Unicorn were the other shows that stands on equal podium as VG, I think the VG ending was by a small margin the best of these 4.
Also I think it makes sense that a 10-year-old would repeatedly make stupid decisions.
@@coreyander286 yes and no, i would say. If getting sucked into space by sneaking on the Reinforce (together with her friend, the baby and the dog and almost got the group killed) isn't a lesson enough, getting Üso's mum killed (because she went straight back to the enemy to persuade his uncle and was instead held hostage and led to the capture of Üso's mum) should have been where she learn the lesson and have some trauma, even though she is just 13. So why go back to the enemy again when they were inspected by the enemy patrol again? But as i have said, it's overdone but overall it's still a good story
Victory Gundam is still my favorite Gundam show to this day lol.
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Me too. It's a great series! I just wish there was more supplemental materials like manga.
I love the mood. It's an oddly sleepy, cozy apocalypse. The only way to make sense of the events is that it's one of those periods of history where people just seem to be going mad, carrying out atrocities despite there not being an economic or geopolitical gain to be had, even for a sociopathic opportunist. The guillotines, the Motorad city-flattenings, Katejina's swimsuit squadron. Belligerent animal spirits that Side 2 just needed to get out of their system, even at the expense of their own lives. And the soundtrack!
Victory is probably the only Gundam series that has such a stark contrast between uplifting banger openings and ending themes only to witness the depressing story, at least it ended with some optimism
The original's OP has a pretty uplifting tone if you ignore the lyrics.
Tomino said Original Gundam is the only Gundam. He just made the rest for sunrise. Love the dude and admire him as a writer.
I honestly felt bad for the Shrike Team. But the moment I saw them I knew they'd be killed off. They practically exist with a big red target on their backs. Which is a shame because they could have been something special but their deaths felt like an after thought as opposed to having any thematic weight behind them. I feel the story was going "Feel bad for these nice woman who have died" but instead came out as "Good god why are you killing them off in the stupidest ways possible?"
Victory Gundam is a series that you *can* get through, but you _have_ to be ready for the slog to do so. Do not go in Victory thinking it's going to tell a compelling story. Instead, go into it expecting to see interesting ideas and characters... that *literally* get butchered.
That is one of the most concise and accurate breakdowns of this series.
So basically this show sucks. 🎉
It's like watching Misato die over and over again. Damn, those girls deserved better.
Remember when that one Shrike member was standing on a Gundam shield as it glided through the middle of a space battle, and her normal suit was losing oxygen, so she was sort of tripping in the calm of the storm, looking at the pretty explosions? Those sort of tone poems throughout Victory are what made me love it, even if the overarching story doesn't make a lot of sense.
The bike battleships would have been really cool in a more "Super Robot"-type series.
I always think of a song I made up every time I think of Victory Gundam...it is based upon the chorus of Opening 1:
"STAND UP TO YOUR VICTORY!
EVERYONE YOU LOVE IS GOING TO DIE!
PRETTY HORRIBLY!
PROBABLY UNDER WHEELS!
STAND UP TO YOUR VICTORY!
TOMINO WAS SEVERELY DEPRESSED!
WHEN HE MADE THIS SHOW!
LOOK AT THAT NIHILISM!"
But seriously, I have seen every Gundam...and Victory is my least favorite. Just feel like you've wasted your time, that love is a lie, and that humanity is doomed.
It's definitely a show that left me feeling a little hollow at the end.
Someone reason I sang with the op song of highschool DXD it made it a little more up beat
Is the words of Stan Marsh. Holy shit dude!
Victory feels like a show that someone was told to make rather than one somebody wanted to make.
I do like the idea that the UC is so saturated with stories of teen heroes stealing mobile suits to great success that eventually one falls into the hands of a 13 year old child and no one gives it too much thought.
Right? at any point the League could have replaced Uso with another pilot passed episode 15 or so, but they dont lol
You're more on the money than you realize. Victory Gundam was one of the first productions made after Bandai acquired Sunrise Studios which meant the Gunpla makers had even MORE say so in the creative side of the Anime. To which frustrated the already troubled Tomino when Bandai was insisting on things that turned his narrative choices upside down. So you have a lot of bits being dictated by Bandai while Tomino is still trying to get his narrative to play out. It's any wonder Victory Gundam is such a strange beautiful wreck of a narrative. I think it's both a very good show and also a bad one. Not horrible but it's flawed because of the production troubles coupled with Tomino's depression that amped his 'Kill em' All!' antics up to the 11's. I think it's why I tend to give the show some leeway, but never ignore its faults either. Plus I love Uso as a protagonist, you really do want to see this sweet boy and his friends survive, so at least investment in your main character was well-done. Uso is a kid protagonist done well, and it's not surprising despite Victory's reputation why our boy and the Victory 2 Gundam often end up in Super Robot Wars over some of the other famed pilots and Gundams.
@@Retcon404 They could have, but Uso had innate skill and talent as a pilot. He was well on his way to being an Ace pilot, and with League Militare losing people as quickly as they did, the idea of losing one of their best pilots despite his age is probably why some of the upper brass never prioritized getting him out of the cockpit. Plus I'm sure some folks figured if they tried to force Uso, he may just steal the Victory and go on his own like so many other G-pilots XD. Best to keep him where they can watch and support him.
This is not like Rey in Force Awaken miraculously piloting a millennium falcon in a heart beat. In Uso's residence, there is an underground mainframe computer with a mobile suit simulator. After capturing a mobile suit, Uso had struggled with controls and he have to read through instruction manual. He learns a little quicker because he is a new type.
But if Tomino didn't want to make Victory Gundam, why did he write a novelization of it, too? He even changed the story slightly, even made a different upgrade of the Victory Gundam, the Second Victory rather than the Victory 2.
The fact the guy kamikaze a ship aims for the wheel while USING THE VERY RARE V2 COREFIGHTER
Maybe he knew something we were never told. Maybe the wheel is actually the Motorad's weak point, it didn't work but it was his best shot. 🙃
I like that bug themed suits. As I've said on other videos this is the last full series I have to finish. I've only gotten to just past the wedding part
Odd theory, I wonder if Victory Gundam was Tomino trying to do the whole idea of the era of the French Revolution / Reign of Terror BUT IN SPACE. Which if you're a fan of history would be kinda a cool idea to implement in the UC timeline.
The Halo music when getting to the part about Angel Halo was a nice touch.
one of my biggest gripes with Victory is the gundam itself. With how much they early parts rely on the drama of fights being Uso needing to put the thing together and having to separate, it made the suit itself feel less special when its whole gimmick is being done by most if not all of the enemy suits already. With its parts constantly being replaced, it felt like the only special part of it was the core fighter itself and the head, and even than they show it doesn't matter when they change out a hexa head for the one with the V fin. I love its design, but that part of it made me really didn't feel like it was the main suit of a series.
understandable. I really do like its simple color scheme and how no-frills it is, though. kind of obviously toy-like, esp hexa and victory 2, but honestly fits uso really well? it's straightforward and kind of nonthreatening compared to the weird experimental suits from 083-f91. he's just a kid and he doesn't really understand what's going on. to me it's the most "gundam-y" gundam if that makes any sense. alex probably did it better though
While he can say he doesn't like it V Gundam is pure distilled Tomino.
I first saw Victory Gundam when I was 19 and thought it was awful. I rewatched it again in my thirties and found myself really entertained with just how bad some of the characters decisions really are
I really liked Victory overall, in spite of its flaws. There are spots of poor writing, yes, but much of the direction is, as per usual with Mr. Tomino, absolutely godly!
Victory is truly underrated but then again it's my favorite tied with Zeta so I might be biased
Is it me or is Victory Gundam at times unintentionally funny?
Yep!
The fucking bikini babes vs an armed and dangerous mobile suit made me lose it hard
Being honest, I haven't seen this stretch of Gundam (Victory, G, Wing, X) - I've been meaning to get around to them, but hell, I've never really been one to care about spoilers, it'll be interesting in a different way watching these (and hopefully be motivation to watch the series', I got about 10 episodes into G, maybe I'll pick that up again before the video rolls around)! Can't wait for Turn A though, gotta be my favourite full length Gundam series (0080 probably takes number one for anything Gundam overall).
G Gundam is an absolute treasure
@@jeremywason3699 yes, first you think it is awfull, and than you realize it is AWESOME instead.
Gundam X was one I've seen very very late, and it really clicked with me. I just loved the vibe of the world, the simple motivations of the characters, seeing Jamil heal back to the man he used to be, a later character like Pala that on her own just brings in a complete new energy and mood in the show. It has 'pretty boy with problems' just like its contemporary Wing Gundam, but it says 'feck it and goes it own way'.
I got introduced via Gundam Wing, full on nostalgia-romantic about it, but I am first to admit that Gundam Wing core attraction is somewhere between episode 1 and 11, the rest is just 'more happening'. Gundam X is by far the superior series of that time.
Victory really is a bizarre show in terms of execution, but the Victory Gundam itself is one of my favourite lead MS designs. It's utterly criminal that its Master Grade kit is supposed to suck.
However, the show itself? Yeah, I think there's good reason why Bandai Namco Visual/Sunrise decided to shelve the Universal Century for a while and focus on three new standalone shows (Mobile Fighter G, New Mobile Report Wing, After War X) with all the UC getting being 08th MS Team. Of course, come 2007 and 2010, they would finally give the Universal Century its welcome return with the Light Novel/Theatrical OVA Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn, but the number Victory did is quite damaging.
I will say that at least the next UC media is 08th MS team, which imo is incredibly good.
@@Retcon404could you make a review of aura battler dunbine please.
I honestly ate this show up. Once they took off into space and Uso more or less developed into a soldier, I couldn't help but enjoy the tragedy of it all. While I'm long from saying which my favorite series is: I'm pretty content with Victory's controversial outing. I can see why Tomino hated it. It's cluttered with hopes and dreams followed by immediate death and lost loves. At the start of an episode there will be at least one or two people declaring their love via "at the end of the war will you bear my child" and then at the end of the episode they are all dead. Every single relationship or pining had been torn apart and killed. Uso and Shakti are left with Karl, but I didn't really get a romantic vibe from them, especially when for whatever reason Katejina became a complete lunatic and declared that two boys fight over her. Every time she showed up in the back half of the show I kept wondering if I missed some detail that led to her shift in loyalty.
The more you talk about Angel Halo the more I think about the Astronomicon.
You know, conceptually I really like the late UC, and that the colonies finally break free from the shadows of the Federation and Zeon.
I'd like to see it explored more, with consistent writing and less corporate meddling. Perhaps an OVA or two.
victory gundam is unironically great.
One last thing: you can most definitely find all of victory gundam, here, on TH-cam.
Uso's cabin and shed under the cliff face are really cool, and the computer bunker even further beneath it is amazing.
Zoloat with the shoulder cannons is pretty cool.
Zanspine is also cool, it's like gundam but insect look
You make fair points. This show has plenty of flaws. It also has the single nicest Gundam pilot in the whole series. Uso is ridiculously inventive and the highest scoring ace in all of Gundam. A kid who trained on mobile suit simulators since he was little. We get to watch him go from being a grunt to being a commander/commander with whole mobile suit companies under him. Plus the music is fantastic.
The motorad being invincible was really annoying tho.
So I didn't really get into UC until I started playing dynasty warriors gundam series(starting from 2). I went in order, OG gundam, zeta, ZZ, chars counter attack, f91 and finally victory. Victory gundam I got 30 episodes in and had to stop watching, the only gundam anime I did that.
Love the use of SMT4 music for background tunes.
This 1 at least has it's moments. Uso dealing with dat 1 returnin Vespa soldier stranded in space dat forces Uso to kill him to grow as a soldier and Uso dealing with his mother death always stuck with me. Chronicles death also rather memorable in how brutal it is
I should have mentioned it but the part where they bring the guys wife and kids back to kassarelia is really good too. I enjoyed that arc tbh.
@@Retcon404 when did that happen?
So why even have helicopter tech for mechs when there was Minovsky Flight around for like 50 years already.
I was eager to hear your thoughts on the show as it's one of my Favorites in the franchise. With it's many poorly aged tropes it suffers greatly, yet I still find the ideas it's trying to swing at very fascinating and engaging even if it doesn't connect on them. Keep up the content my man I'm loving these videos cant wait for G-Gundam
old tropes are always better than modern ones.
Victory Gundam my 3rd favorite Gundam. But I get why plenty don't like it. I really enjoy seeing a story of a young kid learning all this horror and having to fight
Hopefully quantum tv doesnt come after this channel. Love your reviews man, keep up the great work!
I watched Victory and... it's not all bad. I like the Victory and V2 designs. The bug design is a try to distinguish the late UC from the earlier parts. So people don't have to look too much into the history of UC. The story is not good but not too bad. It's a story of a weakening general government (EF) losing to smaller autocracies. It's kinda like a story of the ancient China. I like Uso, he's a strong kid. Even younger than Amuro when he first made his first kill. But his world is different. War was part of his childhood so he got used to death and killing. Overall not the best of UC timeline but I don't feel like wasting time watching it at all.
I just watched 79 and some ova of gundam,can i watch victory?
@@deathdealer9054 if you have spare times, yes. But it best should be watched after you know a lot about the UC universe first.
I'll comment again after I finish the video, but I've been really looking forward to your video.
I love F91 and I love Turn A, so I've been morbidly curious of Tomino's series between those too. I've heard such contradictory things about Victory, and I think based on your prior perspectives, I'll find what you have to say about Victory informative.
I watched your video on 0079 a while ago to please the Hyperfixation Gods, and I come back a couple months later to see even more gundam content? Hell yeah, extremely subscribed
Victory Gundam is one of the Darker entry of the Gundam series. Victory Gundam is not for evenryone.
I'm excited for Patlabor. And as an anime kid of the 90's I watched them all sorts of out of order. Movies then tv series then OVA. Thanks Blockbuster & VHS
Patlabor is great! I was surprised at how funny it is.
Patlabor 2 is my favorite anime film of all time.
Even though it was written for a country and a specific time and place (Japan in the 1990s, the role of the JSDF in society, the economic and social costs of supporting warfare through economic means while also claiming pacifism) it is still so relevant.
The last time I watched it I was shocked that the movie has become something totally different for me. It describes the current state of my country in regards to the world. The United States.
I just noticed you have Marcus’ book from TLPOTL. Very good book
Nothing will be more outrageous than motorcycle battleships
I watched it for the first time last year and really enjoyed it. Apart from the sexual assault on Uso. That was weird.
When did that happen
Ah yes. Gundam shota.
Made it to the end. Good stuff.
I never noticed before but i'm sooo sorry that you have new gundam breaker on your shelf. must be hard bro.
Haha I think I got it for 5$ and played it once.
I bet the bug designers were so they could reuse Dunbine molds now thinking about it in hindsight
Oh hell yeah! Stand up to the victory!!
While victory has a lot of stuff that makes it strange, that's what I found so fascinating, the victorys and there power, the characters who are either nice or wild and while call backs are not direct they still happen like le vie en rose.
The series whose DVD boxset should be packed with a script for Prozac. Seriously, shit's gets gwar quickly.
I've been waiting on this...Victory is the series I've seen the least of from the Gundam franchise (Though I have every installment in front of me on my PC)..I can't ever seem to just..sit and watch through it's entirety..I get maybe 3 episodes in and say "phuckit" ...It's the same for After War X..I just..can't stick with them long enough with the other series..they feel.."off" for me maybe..
As type this I hear you mentioning the first several episodes are out of order..
I need to just run through them as planned..seems like it gets better as it goes along..the Mecha designs aren't my favorite also..
I love this show, its so unique!
Its the only anime i love while not enjoying watching it. It takes some time to click, but i remember the moment it clicked with me was in an earlier episode called "The Guillotine". I thought it was named after some gimmicky weapon one of the french revolution themed enemy mobile suits was gonna use, but that never happened 😂.
Always like to see zeta reviews and this was a great one.
I remember watching like 20 eps and it’s a blur to me now, feel like I should give it another go
“Daytona bike week in the sky” what the actual fuck was going on in this series man 😂😂
0:07 "in april of 1994"
meanwhile on the screen: 1993
This show is basically one big "Why are we still here? Just to suffer?"-meme 😑.
"It seems we are made to suffer. It's our lot in life."
-C3P0
Ive heard a few rumours about this show's deep-seated desire to kill off as many characters as it introduces, the biggest being Tomino was fed up with the push by sunrise to design more and more suits. This is also supposedly why so many of the suits look like metal bugs lol
32:33 Ive repeatedly asked myself the same question, in regards to its inclusion on srw30 instead of zz
Weird in srw30 while Zeta characters used their design trilogy movie since srw Z series... Kamille mentions he was in vegetable state like anime and we're travel to Jupiter where's Judai and others are after ZZ finale, but nobody mentions them or appear despited storywise ZZ actually happen.
srw30 had many problems with many pointless series getting in them, CCA only had Amuro (also Bright) and survive all events for REASON. Zeta cast only had Kamille, Fa and Quatrro are in the way more CCA characters in the way. Whole story only characters matter the all are Amuro and Char for storywise while Kamille get put behind everyone because he's arc already complete first chapters.
And not give started with Getter Robo... Oh boy, getter robo is ultimate pointless pick the all
@@theboihilbirt1277 ZZ did not happen in SRW30 continuity
none of its plot events happened and none of its characters exist; It went straight from Z to char's counterattack, with other series filling the gap.
Its in part due to the voice actor for Judau having some health issues, and I think there might be some other issues too, since ZZ gets the shaft in SRW a lot.
And Astonaige and Chan also survived CC in 30's continuity; So did some of Char's supporters who originally died.
Kamille does have his plot relevance, but primarily as a supporting character to Jona and Daba.
I do agree they could have handled the getter stuff better tho.
But the only pointless pick of the series cast is Knight & Magic; That entire series adds nothing to the plot or cast other than ernie fanboy-ing over other mechs, but even that is downplayed enough that I legitimately forget they are part of the cast.
I love victory Gundam I wish Bandai would make models of the victory Gundam mobile suits
They do make a few.
One of my most favorite Gundam anime in the UC timelime.
The thing is that the whole Zanscare Empire's war against League Millitaire is considered a side show by them. Their main war (never shown on the series) is against Side 1. Federation is mostly fragmented by this point, more akin to the warring state of both China and Japan with a very weak central government.
I like this series a lot but it is definitely a bumpy ride. I think it would benefit from a recut that fixes the order of the first 4 episodes and smooths out pacing issues. It could probably be 10-15 episodes shorter.
Chronicle's "mask" is a practical balaclava. It's lame as a thing to make him stand out but it's definitely more functional than Zechs' helmet mask thing.
I haven't seen all of Victory yet but I'm familiar with the main story beats and it's quite something. It's definitely better without the weird forced humanization of recently deceased zanscare characters. I forgot to mention that Shakti was actually on the same list as Katejina and Nina for horrible women. She's lower on the list but she's still part of top 5 I think.
Man the SMTIV music makes me want to replay it. Anyhow... so I've never watched Victory and told myself I'd watch all of the main UC stuff. Well... I'm at Victory and... it's been rough these first 8 episodes. But I aim to finish it.
If anything I’m speechless on what to say about Victory other than I see it as nothing more than the most inconsequential series that came out of UC whereas F91 led to Crossbone and ZZ led to CCA and then Unicorn. It really pains me to see such a lukewarm sigh of a Gundam show of all things.
Hope you have a retrospective review of Crossbone Gundam too. lookin forward to it
I binged this whole show when I was under quarantine in February and good God...i did not enjoy it. I know that every Gundam series needs to have casualties but this one just felt like it was doing it with no real effort.
And then there's freaking Shakti.....
The only thing I liked ironically was Katejina and that's only because I knew what she was about due to playing Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2
You should have mentioned the god like ost this show had. The swelling orchestral music and whimsical Melodies this show had was like no other 😢
Such a happy upbeat opening song.... what could possibly go wrong? ;)
i highkey love this series expressly because of how stupid and wacky it can be
In summary Gundam victory is like other part of Gundam zeta cuz make by same person that had bad day , make other character that WILL became die in later story and many more. I actually like and respect both Gundam zeta and Gundam victory but both also had it own flaw. Gundam zeta had great characters that bring old character for specific duty and good storytelling about horror of war but watch until later end fell sad and sympathy . Gundam victory other hand actually good eve tho had flaw by it pacing story and foreshadowing characters in later half but it totally show the Horror event by war which what the creator actually do about Gundam in general views. If someone like the first Gundam then watch Gundam zeta but beware cuz it WILL make your fell emotional a lot when watch it for long time. If someone want totally new but in same UC timeline then watch Gundam victory cuz despite it flaw it also a good show as rough as a diamond.
I gotta ask the million dollar question: will you cover G-Saviour?
@Retcon_404 About Bandai Namco, they got greater weapons than your spray bottle.
Glad you finally got around to talking about this one. Victory Gundam took forever for me to find and is the last of the classic Gundam era shows I checked out. I can see why Tomino disowns it but I don’t think it’s a total failure either. I like how it stuck to its dark tone althroughout and like Uso’s journey and how he prevailed against all odds in the end. Shakti is one of my Top 5 least favorite characters in the franchise and definitely the worst Foster Mother of all time. I’d argue her getting captured at one point is the reason Uso’s Mom gets killed. Overall, it’s fine, not as solid as other entries but far from the worst Gundam story ever told (Personally that goes to Reconguista in G for me and cant wait to hear what you think of that one). Well done on the Retrospective dude.
Thanks man I appreciate it! Yeah Shakti gets so annoying, if it was just her being captured it wouldn't be that bad, but the fact that she gives herself up to Zanscare is so dumb its hard to ignore.
Is there anyway you can do a deep dive on space runner ideon? The ultimate kill em' all series!
I'll add it to the list.
G gundam is my favorite
Before going into Victory you should deaden your emotions and make no attachments. Everyone's going to die or worse.
The bikini squad would have worked in a comedy anime but not here
The bikini thing was such a weird inclusion, I kind of expected them to be around for an entire episode but nah they get toasted in like 3 minutes.
@@Retcon404 yea is so left field and dint pay off
there was a fan comic of char wearing one while shooting a bazooka at Kycillia
@@icdeadpipol really? I would laugh at that
I'm probably on a very small minority given that the two full-length shows I enjoyed the most out of the 4 in the core UC timeline, at least originally, were ZZ and Victory. 0079 and Z grew on me, but I remember not enjoying them as much on my first watch as I did with ZZ and Victory, which is funny considering almost everyone is the exact opposite apparently, and those two shows themselves are also polar opposites to one another.
Also, while yes, executive meddling did force the In Medias Res start and the flashbacks for the first few episodes, I personally really enjoyed it. It probably helped that I watched Victory right after F91 and I was totally in the mood for trying to piece together weird editing choices, but all in all it helped have an exciting start and it kept some suspense to figure out how did we get to where we were in episode 1.
SRW30 kind of fixed the plot of Victory a bit. Zanscare never attacked Earth in force and the League Militaire is only present in space, as a spacenoid resistance movement. On the other hand the Earth Federation has very good reasons for not being very active against Zanscare, since tyey are facing multiple alien invasions.
I'd love to see some victory suits that might not be cannon get High grades. Something like the Rig Ring or a Shokew that isn't the RE 100. Or if we have to go crossbone then I'd like to see the Noel Wraith hit store shelves.
24:07 I always thought that was more about Renda than Duker they went to the cabin Renda was drawing after all
31:57 Who wants to deal with helicopters in mecha franchise anyways?
Meanwhile in MechWarrior 5 Mercenaries.
Ryana: Right on cue. VTOLs on approach commander.
Me: Oh! For the love of God! Again?!
Whenever a creator of a visual media such as a movie or tv show puts in the dvd notes "please do not watch this" then always do the opposite because the creator is either trolling or really hates their own work and if it's the latter then expect it to be good, if not really really good
Watching before Bandai strikes this.
The squirt bottle has them backed into a corner for now. But for how long?