First time I've seen anyone explain the differences well. I'm surprised why Ducati has two similar models with just different seating positions but hey, they're selling both models well so they're doing something right.
What's your opinion on the pillion seat? I mean, the pillion's opinion hahaha. Does it fit at least.. nice for the passenger? or is it a terrible experience? bad small seat and all
@@pedroscoda8645 my wife weights 125 lb and she is in pain after 45min-1hour. I’m looking for ways to reupholster it for comfort. It’s definitely not ideal for long rides.
@@onelogue I see, and I take it that you already have the sissybar/backrest. Dang. I really feel like going for an XDiavel, can't get over how much I like it, but I always have second and third thoughts about how my passenger would feel on it. My girlfriend used to love my '13 Ninja 650, then I got the Monster 796 and she sure as hell commented how the Ninja was better for her. Not the seat though, Monster's seat is plushy, but the heat and body position bothered her... so I'm sure as hell she won't like the XDiavel :(
Marty's videos really are the best - they're well paced, with clear and easy to understand info - bravo. it doesn't hurt that he has the beautiful Ducati bike range as his subject matter! ☺
I drove the Diavel S and it´s a beast. Loving the typical sound and willingness you wouldn´t expect from this kind of bike. Even after all the vids and articles you read, it´s only when you drive it you really appreciate this unique bike. On an optical sense, I liked the XDiavel even more and the belt is a bonus considering maintenance and cleaning.... There is still more then enough torque and power available, only the placement of the footpegs weren´t my thing. Good that you mentioned Ducati has a kit for that because that I did not know. So even for people who know a thing ot two about the Diavel, an interesting vid! Thx for that
The best way to describe riding it is like wearing your favorite pair of shoes or holding your favorite bat or walking your most trained and loyal dog. At 160 mph leaned all the way over on a high speed sweeper on 294 it was planted like a tree. A feel of a Ferrari with two wheels and pure comfort. Pure joy...then when the bike feels a straight coming it melts and pushes your ass like a Bully. My God...200mph gets eclipsed quickly and with more to go.
Came from a Hypermotard 950SP & absolutely LOVE my 2021 1260s, so comfortable & fun on the back roads & if you just want to do some weekend cruising, no regrets at all
Are you still quick through corners like the Hyper or do you lose the quick cornering ability with the 1260? I have a Hyper 950 at the moment and thinking of going either with the Streetfighter or XDiavel
@@Robiam73 it's quite nimble considering the weight difference between the two however you will notice the distinct difference in twisties, just not as flickable as the Hyper but I feel it's smoother, the SF and Hyper are two totally different animals compared to the Diavel, depends on your riding wants & needs. The massive TQ on the Diavel is just astounding though, keeps me grinning and giggling everytime! 🤘Best of luck with the choice brother, both are great for what they do but I wanted to travel long distances more and have some comfort so that's why I traded the Hyper in
@@RamblingRuters thanks for the reply :) I might go and take both out for a test ride and see which feels better. I would like the comfort for long distance as many friends have started to do long distance riding but also like going quick through twistiest. Wish I could have all 3 In the garage…..
@@Robiam73 yea doing a test drive is best, if your going for more comfort/longer rides I just don't see the SF as a contender, I love it for what it is but just not for how I ride. I never really received many compliments from others when I had the Hyper but the Diavel I get them ALL THE TIME, other bikers wanna know what it is, "never seen one before" 😆. Attention getter for sure
@@RamblingRuters hahahaha agree about the No compliments with the Hyper as not one person has said anything about mine ever whereas when I had my 1299S I always had people complimenting me on it. Love the look of the Diavel and always have. Time for some test rides I think :) once the rain stops …
I had assumed these bikes were much more similar. But thanks to the useful explanation here it’s clear - Diavel 1260 for me when my wrists can no longer handle my Panigale!
I have the 1260S and I could never part with it. This Machine is Definitely a Dream Bike and a Dream to ride. Video is great and was very informative. Much appreciated 🙏
I sold my V4S and bought the 2021 Diavel 1260S in red from AMS. Added all the Ducabike accessories, Termignoni exhaust, smoked windscreen, xring chain, black sprocket, etc. It's an amazing bike, power, sound, handling, comfort, style, electronics. It's the best transition bike you can buy. If you're moving from the super sport class this is the bike for you. Oh, and cruise control... never thought I'd use it, now I won't buy another bike without it. The guys at AMS Ducati Dallas are first class all the way. Best service hands down. Shout out to Jeff and Simon!
This will be my next bike. I've been looking for a cruiser style and this checks nearly ever tic. I've owned Kawasaki's, Yamaha's, Suzuki's, but never a Ducati. Such a beautiful design.
I had an x diavel. Had to sell it before my back gave out. It’s not made for rough roads. The rear suspension has very little travel and the bumps go directly up your spine. I loved it in every other way but I couldn’t handle the spine jarring any more. I have a diavel which is better for me. Mid controls may help on the xdiavel otherwise stay on the best roads you can
Apart from the suspension, how would you compare the comfort of the 1260 vs the X for longer rides (seat, & knees)? I''m considering the X with Ohlins but wonder how much improved it would be. I'm hoping to avoid back issues myself. Ride safe.
The diavel is quite comfortable for the style of bike it is. I have a touring seat and the stock seat. The touring seat is a bit better and 2 hours riding is about my limit before I need to stretch my legs. The X is more comfortable if the road was racetrack smooth but the first bump you hit will make you want to get off and wonder why Ducati make it so harsh. Ohlins may make it better however the geometry of the bike will make the impact crunch your spine. I would suggest mid pegs so your legs support you over the bumps. I was going to get these but $1500AUD was more than I wanted to spend on a bike I didn’t ride much!! Hope this helps
This is so true. I had an XDiavel and you hit a bump and dear god it was awful. Aside from that amazing bike. I now have a 1260 and it is everything you could ever want. Definitely more user friendly than the XDiavel (and the gear box seems much better on the 1260 too) but both great bikes.
I bought the 1260, I kinda wish I got the xdiavel. On the flip side, if I got the xdiavel, I'd have wished I got the 1260. Main reason I got the 1260 over the xdiavel was for the bigger back seat, those little back seats are no fun for passengers
@@mmebella4297 I own a consulting company. I'm a Director for a Security Firm. I am also in the waste to Energy business. I also do contract work for the US Government. You only live once my friend.
For me this video answered most of my questions including the info on the foot pegs which I didn’t know thx. I assume that there tuning kits to improve the xdiavel definitely my favourite video now. Hello from Slave Lake, a Alberta a Canada thanks again for the info.
Very informative video. I have two Ducatis already (Streetfighter V2 and Multistrada 1200s), and I’ve been itching to get a 3rd bike. XDiavel is on the list….
I looked at both and went with the XDiavel, the Diavel felt too much like my Rocket and I wanted something different. He's right about the pillion seat. I personally got rid of it and the passenger pegs too. She just for me :-) If I need to take a pillion then I use my Triumph Rocket 111. Loads of room for passenger and luggage. Love both of my bikes for different reasons. By the way it's good to see someone that understands the difference between a mussel bike and a cruiser! Most Americans don't get this. I even had an American telling me that the Suzuki GSX1400, Yamaha XJS1300, Honda CB1300 and the V-Max 1200 were all cruisers, even though he had never even ridden any and I have own all of them in the past! I even consider my Rocket to be a mussel bike, which I understand most people don't but just look at the riding position and the feeling when you get on one. Cruisers and mussel bikes are totally different.
@@dannyb2479 I put a comfort seat on mine from new, the seat is so so in comfort but you can always use gel pads. The suspension is the only thing that lets this bike down. I changed mine front and back, now she glides around corner like she's on rails and soaks up the bumps in the road that used to jar my back teeth. But this was very expensive! Being a twin it's not so smooth but most twin are like this. If it's smoothness you are after I would go for a Honda Valkyrie. Those 6 cylinders give you the smoothest ride I have ever had and got a lot of punch too! Not as much as the Ducati but plenty.
@@dannyb2479 I love mine to be fair but be warned, everything is very expensive! I stopped counting the amount I've spent on her in the last year and a half but it's well over £5,000! I try not to think too much about the money and focus on what my bike now looks like and how well she rides. Next big upgrade I want is BST carbon wheels. Which is a huge price of around £3,500! But they will not only look great as I have already changed most of the bodywork into carbon but enhanced the ride in every department. You need DEEP pockets with a bike like this.
That was a great video. I didn't know anything about the Diavel but now I want two of them. I'm a Supersport guy, but man I wish I could afford one of those for showing off on the weekends.
I don't understand why someone would change the peg position on the XDiavel. If that's the feet positioning you want why not go just for the Diavel? I went for the X because I wanted that feet forward thing as I'm getting old and my knees just don't bend the way they used too. 20 or 30 odd years ago I would have gone for the Diavel. Is it that you prefer the look of the the X or the more smoother engine? The Diavel is much more of a hooligans bike. Are more of a gentleman? :-)
@@papatruss I prefer the looks of the XD and mid mounted pegs give more control IMO and puts less pressure on the small of the back on long rides... just my preferences tho' :)
@@rich0006 Cool. It is a good looking bike :-) Going over bumps on the X can send shockwaves through your spine! I try my hardest to avoid them. Have you thought about the new Rocket 3? The ride is way smoother and puts a lot less stress on your back. Really good on long trips.
@@papatruss - your experience of bumps hammering your spine makes a great case for using mid mounted pegs IMO as that would change your whole posture on the bike to stop your back being the target for shocks.... Yea a Rocket 3 is on my radar too - do you have one?
@@rich0006 Yeah, but unfortunately my knees don't do that anymore :-( I really need my legs to be as straight as poss. I have had many bikes with mid controls before, I've been riding for over 40 years and you do have so much more control too with them. I just have to be careful when our riding, keep my eyes peeled for pot holes! Sometimes I feel like I'm on a slalom course LOL.
Wow! Thank you sir for the breakdown between these 2 beautiful machines! I’ve been out of the motorcycle scene since December 2017 when I sold my BMW HP4 and my last Ducati I had was the 1198s. I’m eventually wanting to get back into riding again but told myself if I did, I either wanted a Diavel or the X Diavel. I was unaware one was more forward facing with the pegs and one was belt driven. I am absolutely floored by the looks of these machines and I thoroughly thank you again for the comparison but I may have to eventually flip a coin to ultimately decide since I’m infatuated with both and can’t decide which to pursue!
@@smilinjoe23 whichever one I opt for, it’ll be the S version. Now it’s deciphering between the chain / belt driven. I know chains will likely last longer but more maintenance. (Assuming)
@@smilinjoe23 I'm in the flip a coin camp as well... just wondering since you've been on both, if the comfort / handling would be resolved if I put Ohlins on the X?
@@jones3892 i do not have ohlins on the xdiavel, so I wont know. But the S model on the diavel 1260 has both rear and front ohlins suspension. I heard a lot of complaints regarding the rider's lower back riding on the x diavel due to the foot control position, rough suspension and handlebar. I do feel less strain on my lower back after modifying my seat with mean city cycles and rearward handlebar.
@@PlaidDad It's not that hard to lube and adjust the chain. Some people have issue abt rocks breaking the belts which cause more to replace than lubing and adjusting a chain. I believe it's 700$ just to buy the part.
So, to Marty, you mentioned Ducati has a kit to bring the foot controls back to mid position on the XDiavel. Now, my question is, does Ducati also offer a kit to bring the mid foot controls to forward position on the 1260?? Because I much prefer the looks of the 1260, but also prefer riding cruiser-style forward controls. Thanks.
Looking at the bike I would have to say no. Where would it go, it's all belly pan forward of the pegs. On the X there are places to attach them under you. I had the same dilemma, I too preferred the Diavel's looks over the X but had to go the the X for the simple reason that at my age my knees just don't bend the way they used too. I've had my Ducati for nearly a year now and love it. One word of warning they are very highly strung. So far the clutch slave has had to be changed and the Ducati alarm they fitted messed up my electrics, which in turn drained my battery over night. Also if you want to do anything on it it is so fiddly and awkward. You need specialised tools and everything is very expensive. Have you tried the Triumph Rocket 3 GT? I also have one of them and the riding position is very similar to the XDiavel. You can't throw it around as much and it isn't as fast but the low down torque is amazing! Pulls like a freight train from low revs all the way though to the red line with ease, I bet you could tow a caravan with one. I find if I just want to go out and have some fun then the Ducati is best but for a more comfortable ride it's the Triumph, you hardly have to change gears on the Rocket whilst your constantly trying to find the right gear on the Ducati. Love both for different reasons. edit: and I also had problems with my back break going all spongy on the Ducati. They needed bleeding a few times. I have had the Triumph for over a year and so far she has cause me no trouble at all. The Triumph is much more solid and reliable, whilst the Ducati is like a race horse that needs so much more attention.
You guys are awesome I wish I wasn’t poor and could help people like you do well God bless you guys and hopefully one day I’ll be out of poverty and get a car or bike even a twenty year old car just to get to work good bless you and I meet your dad at seven 11 in enola a great man
I have the Xdiavel standard with termis and live the belt drive and economy circa 55mpg alongside the massive power delivery. I wasn’t aware around the engine retarding the cams relative to the riding so that must be why it rides so well in different situations for static and speed and then rapid opening up whilst still providing awesome mpg even with a size 8 pillion (upgraded from a size 6). It’s workable even with the comfort seat and rear set pegs. Fitting forward bars and the taller seat shortly and the taller seat helps with pillion head knock (I’m 6ft 4 and pillion 5ft 6). I replaced the older Diavel with an X and the ride is improved but haven’t tried the new Diavel with the L Twin as I’m sure it would improved feel and fuel economy as it was poor previously and doubled when I switched to the L Twin. Just think the new one should also be belt drive as it’s one less thing to worry about.
Is this too fast for a first bike? I really want the xdiavel but didnt like the foot peg, nice to know you can have the same foot pegs as the 1260. Was thinking of the 1260 but now might stick with the xdiavel
Every thing you said is true I had a gxr and it killed my back I have a diavel carbon now and I'm currently talks with the dealership to get the black and yellow version
Awesome video. 2 Questions: - Can you upgrade the Diavel S with front footpegs and a lower seat height? - Can you upgrade the Diavel S from Chain to Belt-drive? for me the Diavel looks much more attractive compared to the xdiavel (apart from the tail section) - though I am a typical cruiser rider (front footpegs) in the market for getting into the "powercruiser" categroy thx a lot
Good video. After quite some miles on a Diavel on twisty roads in the mountains I can tell. The non X Diavel can give most naked bikes and supersports a run for their money ... just be sure to have spare foodpegs and controls :-)
Im picking up a diavel Saturday. I planned to buy a brand new one from ams. But i wasnt spening 23k without being able to ride one. Getting a used one at another ducati dealer i can test ride. Paperwork is ready tho.
Man I don't knw about Ducati as I don't own them ...maybe in future. But u r awesome .....in u r job ... Well explained everything about Ducati.. When it comes to Ducati I prefer this channel. Thanks a lot ...👍
I own the Xdiavel s, which I absolutely love but it has some serious issues which makes it expensive to own. My latest issue on my 2016 is the drive pulley getting loose because of which the belt is slipping and the dealer is forced to also replace the belt so all the benefits of the belt drive tossed out of the window. Wish these basic things were covered by Ducati
What I like about the new Diavel engine compared to the old one. You can changed the timing belts out with out having to drop the engine. So that should help with maintenance cost's
I loved it so much from somalia, it must cost as much as my 9 years salary.
I feel you brother. It's so breathtaking though. Even on the screen.
Buy it after ten years my friend,nice bike
One day bro, work towards your dreams man!
Buy benelli 502c 🙄 it’s same design and budget friendly
Mine too brother
First time I've seen anyone explain the differences well. I'm surprised why Ducati has two similar models with just different seating positions but hey, they're selling both models well so they're doing something right.
Thanks!
I just notice this video has no cuts, goodjob on explaining!
Thank you for noticing.
I have the XDiavel S and it is the most amazing riding experience! It looks amazing in garage and every time I ride it I feel like a kid.
Right on!
Yeah. It definitely does ride well. It rides well with a passenger too
What's your opinion on the pillion seat? I mean, the pillion's opinion hahaha. Does it fit at least.. nice for the passenger? or is it a terrible experience? bad small seat and all
@@pedroscoda8645 my wife weights 125 lb and she is in pain after 45min-1hour. I’m looking for ways to reupholster it for comfort. It’s definitely not ideal for long rides.
@@onelogue I see, and I take it that you already have the sissybar/backrest. Dang. I really feel like going for an XDiavel, can't get over how much I like it, but I always have second and third thoughts about how my passenger would feel on it. My girlfriend used to love my '13 Ninja 650, then I got the Monster 796 and she sure as hell commented how the Ninja was better for her. Not the seat though, Monster's seat is plushy, but the heat and body position bothered her... so I'm sure as hell she won't like the XDiavel :(
Marty's videos really are the best - they're well paced, with clear and easy to understand info - bravo.
it doesn't hurt that he has the beautiful Ducati bike range as his subject matter! ☺
Glad you like them!
I drove the Diavel S and it´s a beast. Loving the typical sound and willingness you wouldn´t expect from this kind of bike. Even after all the vids and articles you read, it´s only when you drive it you really appreciate this unique bike.
On an optical sense, I liked the XDiavel even more and the belt is a bonus considering maintenance and cleaning.... There is still more then enough torque and power available, only the placement of the footpegs weren´t my thing. Good that you mentioned Ducati has a kit for that because that I did not know.
So even for people who know a thing ot two about the Diavel, an interesting vid! Thx for that
Absolutely beautiful presentation my friend!!
Thank you very much!
All I can see, for 12 mins and 26 seconds is the V4R at the background.
@Clayton Prus 😂
The best way to describe riding it is like wearing your favorite pair of shoes or holding your favorite bat or walking your most trained and loyal dog.
At 160 mph leaned all the way over on a high speed sweeper on 294 it was planted like a tree.
A feel of a Ferrari with two wheels and pure comfort. Pure joy...then when the bike feels a straight coming it melts and pushes your ass like a Bully.
My God...200mph gets eclipsed quickly and with more to go.
Came from a Hypermotard 950SP & absolutely LOVE my 2021 1260s, so comfortable & fun on the back roads & if you just want to do some weekend cruising, no regrets at all
Are you still quick through corners like the Hyper or do you lose the quick cornering ability with the 1260? I have a Hyper 950 at the moment and thinking of going either with the Streetfighter or XDiavel
@@Robiam73 it's quite nimble considering the weight difference between the two however you will notice the distinct difference in twisties, just not as flickable as the Hyper but I feel it's smoother, the SF and Hyper are two totally different animals compared to the Diavel, depends on your riding wants & needs. The massive TQ on the Diavel is just astounding though, keeps me grinning and giggling everytime! 🤘Best of luck with the choice brother, both are great for what they do but I wanted to travel long distances more and have some comfort so that's why I traded the Hyper in
@@RamblingRuters thanks for the reply :) I might go and take both out for a test ride and see which feels better. I would like the comfort for long distance as many friends have started to do long distance riding but also like going quick through twistiest. Wish I could have all 3 In the garage…..
@@Robiam73 yea doing a test drive is best, if your going for more comfort/longer rides I just don't see the SF as a contender, I love it for what it is but just not for how I ride. I never really received many compliments from others when I had the Hyper but the Diavel I get them ALL THE TIME, other bikers wanna know what it is, "never seen one before" 😆. Attention getter for sure
@@RamblingRuters hahahaha agree about the No compliments with the Hyper as not one person has said anything about mine ever whereas when I had my 1299S I always had people complimenting me on it. Love the look of the Diavel and always have. Time for some test rides I think :) once the rain stops …
I had assumed these bikes were much more similar. But thanks to the useful explanation here it’s clear - Diavel 1260 for me when my wrists can no longer handle my Panigale!
Glad it was helpful!
I have the 1260S and I could never part with it. This Machine is Definitely a Dream Bike and a Dream to ride.
Video is great and was very informative.
Much appreciated 🙏
I love the rear wheel on the x. It's so badass. It's the feature that always made me want to get an xdiavel... but I got a new multi v4 s instead lol
I sold my V4S and bought the 2021 Diavel 1260S in red from AMS. Added all the Ducabike accessories, Termignoni exhaust, smoked windscreen, xring chain, black sprocket, etc. It's an amazing bike, power, sound, handling, comfort, style, electronics. It's the best transition bike you can buy. If you're moving from the super sport class this is the bike for you. Oh, and cruise control... never thought I'd use it, now I won't buy another bike without it. The guys at AMS Ducati Dallas are first class all the way. Best service hands down. Shout out to Jeff and Simon!
Thank you!!
1260s in Matt black is the one I’ve got
It’s awesome 😎 and I’m able to ride it all day with no issues
This will be my next bike. I've been looking for a cruiser style and this checks nearly ever tic. I've owned Kawasaki's, Yamaha's, Suzuki's, but never a Ducati. Such a beautiful design.
Another great video by AMS Ducati Dallas!
Glad you like them!
When I was in the bologna factory the Diavelx was described as Ducati’s interpretation of a cruiser style motorcycle.
LoL...
A cruiser that doesn't pull from below 3000 rpm
I had an x diavel. Had to sell it
before my back gave out. It’s not made for rough roads. The rear suspension has very little travel and the bumps go directly up your spine. I loved it in every other way but I couldn’t handle the spine jarring any more. I have a diavel which is better for me. Mid controls may help on the xdiavel otherwise stay on the best roads you can
Apart from the suspension, how would you compare the comfort of the 1260 vs the X for longer rides (seat, & knees)? I''m considering the X with Ohlins but wonder how much improved it would be. I'm hoping to avoid back issues myself. Ride safe.
The diavel is quite comfortable for the style of bike it is. I have a touring seat and the stock seat. The touring seat is a bit better and 2 hours riding is about my limit before I need to stretch my legs. The X is more comfortable if the road was racetrack smooth but the first bump you hit will make you want to get off and wonder why Ducati make it so harsh. Ohlins may make it better however the geometry of the bike will make the impact crunch your spine.
I would suggest mid pegs so your legs support you over the bumps. I was going to get these but $1500AUD was more than I wanted to spend on a bike I didn’t ride much!!
Hope this helps
@@dinogiuliani3821 Sounds like you can save your knees on the x but your back on the 1260. Hard decision to make but I appreciate the feedback!
This is so true. I had an XDiavel and you hit a bump and dear god it was awful. Aside from that amazing bike. I now have a 1260 and it is everything you could ever want. Definitely more user friendly than the XDiavel (and the gear box seems much better on the 1260 too) but both great bikes.
😱 No mention of those beautiful Ohlin forks and upgraded Brembos? That would be my main reason to buy the red one!
Yes but its the s version
WELL SAID, THANK YOU. I RIDE A VFR 1200. THIS DIAVEL S TURNS EVERY ONE OF MY KNOBS THE RIGHT WAY. A DEF 2ND BIKE.
Marty, thanks for the great video. You did well in explaining their differences and style. Stay safe and keep the shiny side up!
Thanks, will do!
Picked up a 2023 Diavel S today coming from turboed Triumph Daytona the bottom end on the 1260 is amazing.
1260 dream bike for 2021!!!
Excellent video with detailed information regarding both these models, will call or visit you soon to check out these bikes to see if it fits me.
Always welcome
I can say I was honestly drawn to the 2015 Diavel and the riding....was amazing.
I bought the 1260, I kinda wish I got the xdiavel. On the flip side, if I got the xdiavel, I'd have wished I got the 1260.
Main reason I got the 1260 over the xdiavel was for the bigger back seat, those little back seats are no fun for passengers
Very Well Done. I have a 2020 V4R & a 2019 Xdiavel S.
I appreciate the video
What do you do for a living ....!!!!!
@@mmebella4297 I own a consulting company. I'm a Director for a Security Firm. I am also in the waste to Energy business. I also do contract work for the US Government.
You only live once my friend.
Great motor bike and present from this man
Finally. Great video, and spot on for the topic.
Great description. Awesome presenter. Please post more videos.
Thank you, we will.
Marty is the man! Great video, bro!
I need a xdiavel! Thing just seems to perfect.
For me this video answered most of my questions including the info on the foot pegs which I didn’t know thx. I assume that there tuning kits to improve the xdiavel definitely my favourite video now. Hello from Slave Lake, a Alberta a Canada thanks again for the info.
🇨🇦❤️ Thanks for watching!
Really well done! Exceptional detail and very professionally presented!
Thank you! Cheers!
You've explained well the difference between the two. Very informative thanks
Very informative video. I have two Ducatis already (Streetfighter V2 and Multistrada 1200s), and I’ve been itching to get a 3rd bike. XDiavel is on the list….
I looked at both and went with the XDiavel, the Diavel felt too much like my Rocket and I wanted something different. He's right about the pillion seat. I personally got rid of it and the passenger pegs too. She just for me :-) If I need to take a pillion then I use my Triumph Rocket 111. Loads of room for passenger and luggage. Love both of my bikes for different reasons.
By the way it's good to see someone that understands the difference between a mussel bike and a cruiser! Most Americans don't get this. I even had an American telling me that the Suzuki GSX1400, Yamaha XJS1300, Honda CB1300 and the V-Max 1200 were all cruisers, even though he had never even ridden any and I have own all of them in the past! I even consider my Rocket to be a mussel bike, which I understand most people don't but just look at the riding position and the feeling when you get on one. Cruisers and mussel bikes are totally different.
Great info mate. Does the xdiavel seat ect feel comfortable to you? I have a vstar cruiser and looking for something smooth and punchy
@@dannyb2479 I put a comfort seat on mine from new, the seat is so so in comfort but you can always use gel pads. The suspension is the only thing that lets this bike down. I changed mine front and back, now she glides around corner like she's on rails and soaks up the bumps in the road that used to jar my back teeth. But this was very expensive!
Being a twin it's not so smooth but most twin are like this. If it's smoothness you are after I would go for a Honda Valkyrie. Those 6 cylinders give you the smoothest ride I have ever had and got a lot of punch too! Not as much as the Ducati but plenty.
@@rufus1346 Thanks mate sounds like it's a dream now. I really love the look and specs of the xdiavel so maybe the comfort seat would be a good start.
@@dannyb2479 I love mine to be fair but be warned, everything is very expensive! I stopped counting the amount I've spent on her in the last year and a half but it's well over £5,000! I try not to think too much about the money and focus on what my bike now looks like and how well she rides. Next big upgrade I want is BST carbon wheels. Which is a huge price of around £3,500! But they will not only look great as I have already changed most of the bodywork into carbon but enhanced the ride in every department. You need DEEP pockets with a bike like this.
Nice review.. I like both bikes but like the 1260 more..
Good choice!
Perfect timing on the video and well done. Inwill be dropping by at the turn of the year.
That was a great video. I didn't know anything about the Diavel but now I want two of them. I'm a Supersport guy, but man I wish I could afford one of those for showing off on the weekends.
Glad you enjoyed!
Very good explanation of differences between that two models 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Very impressive luxury superbike. It has a beautiful and world class dynamic machine. Perfect!
First time looking into bikes. Both both look nice.. i like the black tho, looks clean
Great video and diavel insight info. I'm in UK but sure is helpful. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice useful information.. Instead of regular specification presentation 😍
Informative thanks! I will probably go for an Xdiavel Black Star with rear mounted pegs as you described at the end of the vid
I don't understand why someone would change the peg position on the XDiavel. If that's the feet positioning you want why not go just for the Diavel? I went for the X because I wanted that feet forward thing as I'm getting old and my knees just don't bend the way they used too. 20 or 30 odd years ago I would have gone for the Diavel. Is it that you prefer the look of the the X or the more smoother engine? The Diavel is much more of a hooligans bike. Are more of a gentleman? :-)
@@papatruss I prefer the looks of the XD and mid mounted pegs give more control IMO and puts less pressure on the small of the back on long rides... just my preferences tho' :)
@@rich0006 Cool. It is a good looking bike :-) Going over bumps on the X can send shockwaves through your spine! I try my hardest to avoid them. Have you thought about the new Rocket 3? The ride is way smoother and puts a lot less stress on your back. Really good on long trips.
@@papatruss - your experience of bumps hammering your spine makes a great case for using mid mounted pegs IMO as that would change your whole posture on the bike to stop your back being the target for shocks.... Yea a Rocket 3 is on my radar too - do you have one?
@@rich0006 Yeah, but unfortunately my knees don't do that anymore :-( I really need my legs to be as straight as poss. I have had many bikes with mid controls before, I've been riding for over 40 years and you do have so much more control too with them. I just have to be careful when our riding, keep my eyes peeled for pot holes! Sometimes I feel like I'm on a slalom course LOL.
Wow! Thank you sir for the breakdown between these 2 beautiful machines! I’ve been out of the motorcycle scene since December 2017 when I sold my BMW HP4 and my last Ducati I had was the 1198s. I’m eventually wanting to get back into riding again but told myself if I did, I either wanted a Diavel or the X Diavel. I was unaware one was more forward facing with the pegs and one was belt driven.
I am absolutely floored by the looks of these machines and I thoroughly thank you again for the comparison but I may have to eventually flip a coin to ultimately decide since I’m infatuated with both and can’t decide which to pursue!
I have both. get the diavel 1260. the ohlins makes it handle better
@@smilinjoe23 whichever one I opt for, it’ll be the S version. Now it’s deciphering between the chain / belt driven. I know chains will likely last longer but more maintenance. (Assuming)
@@smilinjoe23 I'm in the flip a coin camp as well... just wondering since you've been on both, if the comfort / handling would be resolved if I put Ohlins on the X?
@@jones3892 i do not have ohlins on the xdiavel, so I wont know. But the S model on the diavel 1260 has both rear and front ohlins suspension. I heard a lot of complaints regarding the rider's lower back riding on the x diavel due to the foot control position, rough suspension and handlebar. I do feel less strain on my lower back after modifying my seat with mean city cycles and rearward handlebar.
@@PlaidDad It's not that hard to lube and adjust the chain. Some people have issue abt rocks breaking the belts which cause more to replace than lubing and adjusting a chain. I believe it's 700$ just to buy the part.
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Looking good superbike, I already ordered black $ steel happy to have it in July
That was a very impressive presentation
Thank you for all the information!
You bet!
So, to Marty, you mentioned Ducati has a kit to bring the foot controls back to mid position on the XDiavel. Now, my question is, does Ducati also offer a kit to bring the mid foot controls to forward position on the 1260??
Because I much prefer the looks of the 1260, but also prefer riding cruiser-style forward controls. Thanks.
Looking at the bike I would have to say no. Where would it go, it's all belly pan forward of the pegs. On the X there are places to attach them under you. I had the same dilemma, I too preferred the Diavel's looks over the X but had to go the the X for the simple reason that at my age my knees just don't bend the way they used too. I've had my Ducati for nearly a year now and love it. One word of warning they are very highly strung. So far the clutch slave has had to be changed and the Ducati alarm they fitted messed up my electrics, which in turn drained my battery over night. Also if you want to do anything on it it is so fiddly and awkward. You need specialised tools and everything is very expensive.
Have you tried the Triumph Rocket 3 GT? I also have one of them and the riding position is very similar to the XDiavel. You can't throw it around as much and it isn't as fast but the low down torque is amazing! Pulls like a freight train from low revs all the way though to the red line with ease, I bet you could tow a caravan with one.
I find if I just want to go out and have some fun then the Ducati is best but for a more comfortable ride it's the Triumph, you hardly have to change gears on the Rocket whilst your constantly trying to find the right gear on the Ducati.
Love both for different reasons.
edit: and I also had problems with my back break going all spongy on the Ducati. They needed bleeding a few times. I have had the Triumph for over a year and so far she has cause me no trouble at all. The Triumph is much more solid and reliable, whilst the Ducati is like a race horse that needs so much more attention.
You guys are awesome I wish I wasn’t poor and could help people like you do well God bless you guys and hopefully one day I’ll be out of poverty and get a car or bike even a twenty year old car just to get to work good bless you and I meet your dad at seven 11 in enola a great man
XDiavel is my next bike when I finish with V4
great choice!
I have the Xdiavel standard with termis and live the belt drive and economy circa 55mpg alongside the massive power delivery.
I wasn’t aware around the engine retarding the cams relative to the riding so that must be why it rides so well in different situations for static and speed and then rapid opening up whilst still providing awesome mpg even with a size 8 pillion (upgraded from a size 6). It’s workable even with the comfort seat and rear set pegs.
Fitting forward bars and the taller seat shortly and the taller seat helps with pillion head knock (I’m 6ft 4 and pillion 5ft 6).
I replaced the older Diavel with an X and the ride is improved but haven’t tried the new Diavel with the L Twin as I’m sure it would improved feel and fuel economy as it was poor previously and doubled when I switched to the L Twin. Just think the new one should also be belt drive as it’s one less thing to worry about.
That was great mate cheers
Great video, man. You really know how to pass that info with confidence and not sounding pushy.
I appreciate that!
Is this too fast for a first bike? I really want the xdiavel but didnt like the foot peg, nice to know you can have the same foot pegs as the 1260. Was thinking of the 1260 but now might stick with the xdiavel
This as a first bike is going to get you into trouble or into the grave. The power and acceleration is insane. 0-100km/h in 2.6s
best person ever and the person behind the camera too. one day for sure, Ducati Diavel 1260. have a great day everyone.
Excellent video my brother, thank you.
Really good presentation...👊🏿
Glad you liked it!
Great job brother - to this day.
Wish could add forward controls on the standard diavel! Rather than the other way around!
I went from a KLX300R to a KX450 to a SV650 to a 2022 Z900RS currently.... Next bike will either be a Street Glide ST (lol) or this Diavel !!!
I wish there were a video showing the different foot placements with seated rider, I've yet to find one anywhere on youtube.
Great video and explanations
Glad you liked it!
Every thing you said is true I had a gxr and it killed my back I have a diavel carbon now and I'm currently talks with the dealership to get the black and yellow version
Thank you!!
Awesome video. 2 Questions:
- Can you upgrade the Diavel S with front footpegs and a lower seat height?
- Can you upgrade the Diavel S from Chain to Belt-drive?
for me the Diavel looks much more attractive compared to the xdiavel (apart from the tail section) - though I am a typical cruiser rider (front footpegs) in the market for getting into the "powercruiser" categroy
thx a lot
Good video. After quite some miles on a Diavel on twisty roads in the mountains I can tell. The non X Diavel can give most naked bikes and supersports a run for their money ... just be sure to have spare foodpegs and controls :-)
Im picking up a diavel Saturday. I planned to buy a brand new one from ams. But i wasnt spening 23k without being able to ride one. Getting a used one at another ducati dealer i can test ride. Paperwork is ready tho.
Ducati diavel is one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever made💖💕💕💕🫀🔥
Thanks for info much needed to hear
Man I don't knw about Ducati as I don't own them ...maybe in future.
But u r awesome .....in u r job ... Well explained everything about Ducati..
When it comes to Ducati I prefer this channel.
Thanks a lot ...👍
Excellent presentation......Thank you.
Great informative video, thanks.
Very welcome
I have the xdiavel s and is an experience to ride and never want to get off it. Certainly draws a crowd. Love it
Very knowledgeable and well done explained
Diavel my dream bike😍😍
Thanks for explaining the differences in these two bikes! But what's the Diavel at the 1:35 mark in the back?
Awesome presentation 👏👏👌im shopping for one and you explained everything I need to know! Cheers
Glad it was helpful!
Photos of the back rest and saddle bags would have been appreciated.
Fantastic and informative. Well done.
I own the Xdiavel s, which I absolutely love but it has some serious issues which makes it expensive to own. My latest issue on my 2016 is the drive pulley getting loose because of which the belt is slipping and the dealer is forced to also replace the belt so all the benefits of the belt drive tossed out of the window. Wish these basic things were covered by Ducati
I love Ducati and I hope own one
i like them both!
Great video man I truly appreciate it, quick question are those seats interchangeable?
Kind of seems like it would have made more sense to put the larger, more cushy seat on the X
Cool man, nice video.
At 6'5 the X Diavel is comfortable and fast.
Well presented information, thanks.
Very welcome
So tell us about the Ducati standard maintenance costs.
What I like about the new Diavel engine compared to the old one. You can changed the timing belts out with out having to drop the engine. So that should help with maintenance cost's
I was a vmax rider but they don't make em anymore. Think this would be a good fit?
Absolutely
nice camera work
I want those 1260 LED signal lights on the X
Could you pretty pretty please do a Diavel 1260s vs the new Diavel V4 comparison? 😁
I been lookin for an x dievel s for ever u got any in stock ready to ship
What year did Ducati stop making the Xdiavel?
Men this here is a go to motorcycle, on a zombie apocalypse..
Thanks. Great explanation. Is the XDiavel a good beginner’s bike?