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KC here, I just picked up a revel rascal frame the other day from my LBS. It's getting built up right now. Waiting on spacers for my fox dpx2. Can't Wait! this is a beautiful looking bike
Bought a Rascal last month. Still trying to tune it in but I have no complaints. It was between the Ripley and I decided I wanted 130mm out back and 150mm up front (Fox 36). Amazing combination. Does everything well. Bobs a lot more than the Ripley when climbing, so I'm trying to chase that down. Other than that, I think the Rascal is the standard bearer for the non-Enduro / DH bikes.
Yeah, I think the Rascal fills a nice spot between light trail riding and enduro riding... It's an excellent choice for everything with an emphasis on higher speed and chunk!
I think you nailed the description. It is the most versatile bike I’ve ridden. It changes attitude a lot just by changing sag from 30 to 25% more plush vs more poppy. I still love mine after over a year of shredding.
@@mtbyumyum Bought The Following from the Sports Den. Mike and Smitty are great. First ride today; PC Jenn's, Keystone, Scott's Pass to Puke Hill and back. Excellent climber. I demo'ed a Ripley from Bikers Edge about at month ago (Salt didn't have a demo). The large was too cramped in the cockpit (I'm 6') and didn't want to jump to XL. At around 1230mm wheelbase, it would have been a limo. I thought the Following climbed in the same class as the Ripley. It descended better, and was super playful and poppy. I bought it even though demos aren't available. The large fit like at glove. Hope you can get your hands on one eventually and do a comparo to the Rascal and Ripley. Love your channel!
@@EdwargGz I've only spun a Rascal around a bike shop parking lot so I can't offer sound advice. However, the Following continues to amaze me. Today, I made it up a 2700 foot climb in Park City as fast as I've ever done in my Scalpel. I was able to hang with two guys riding Santa Cruz Bronson's on the downhills. I'm very impressed with the bike.
The Transition Spur is most interesting to me right now. Light weight, excellent geo... the sb115 is a joke... it's just a redo on the 100. Range is interesting but I doubt it will be light weight....
MTB yumyum Unfortunately I have long torso and short legs, so the seat tube length on the Spur eliminates it. Super boost on Following eliminated that.
Couldn't agree more with the build. The lyrik up front makes this bike much more capable than the 140 Pike. I thought the Rascal was close to the Ripmo before with the Pike, now with the Lyrik, I think it is right there.
Yeah, I really like the beefier fork up front but I'm not sure it's right there with the likes of the Ripmo, Hightower, Offering or Switchblade even still.... but it's close...
I debated for months between the Rascal and the SB130. Ended up going with the SB130 since my LBS carried the brand and was able to demo, but wish I had the opportunity to ride one of the Rascals. Love how you put the Lyrik on it with full XTR. Good call.
For just having one bike would you rather have the Ibis Ripmo or the Rascal . I ride all over the place . Desert and Mountains. I would probably be an intermediate rider. Thanks
Honestly, probably the Ripmo but not how it’s currently offered. Go with a fox 36 and float x shock instead of the 38 and X2... Call Chris at Salt Cycles and he can get you set up with the right stuff and a killer deal!! # 801-943-8502
Would love to see a head to head with the SB130. I demoed a 130 and really loved it! I am leaning toward buying the 130 but have also had my eye on the Rascal but can't find a demo here in N.C. Or if you could just give me your thoughts on the differences as I know you have ridden the 130 also! Thanks!!!
The sb130 feels like the more precise bike. Not as stable at high speed and more ridged feeling particularly over square edge hits. I would say the sb130 is more similar to the Pivot Trail 429... it's not as forgiving as the Rascal in the rougher terrain. The Rascal feels like the easier bike to ride... the sb130 feels like a race bike... the harder you push it the better it gets sort of feel. Both climb very well... good luck!!
@@mtbyumyum I haven't rode the Rascal yet, but the SB130 definitely feels like a race bike. It's almost kinda (I don't want to say boring so lets just say less fun) unless you're railing it and then it's like a whole different bike. IMHO SB130 is for those who like wide open SPEED. Like a super aggressive XC bike or a mini enduro bike. It's hard for me to call it a trail bike because trail riders usually just like to cruise. lol. Kinda Rigid in the slow speed rock gardens too.
I've ridden both the Delano and Rascal. No comparison. Rascal better in every way. I rode the Delano a dozen times and could never get it to feel right despite numerous tweaks to cockpit and suspension. First ride on the Rascal felt just right. Delano feels cramped. Rascal has less travel but feels like it has much more travel and yet pedals far better. Delano pretty much needs the pro pedal switched on, didn't feel I needed it on the Rascal. Delano feels like a big bike and is a handful on tight turns and at low speed and feels vague. Rascal is snappy and much more precise feeling and fun at all speeds. Now I just can't decide between Ranger, Ripley, or Rascal (haven't tried the Ripley)...
I bought a Ranger a few months ago to replace my 1999 SC superlite! Wow the Ranger is kickass and does fine on 20 mile payment rides with knobbies. I went with the black frame and XX1 components. It is a joy to ride, but I might need a Rail for the bigger stuff on the hillside trails here in Anchorage, AK.
@@FrankRiker I have not demoed those other bikes. I tested out the Ranger and this was the first time on a 29 incher. The guys at Chain Reaction here in Anchorage, AK ride the Ranger. And bring out the big downhill guns when riding the lifts at Alyeska resort.
@@adriandmd I've ridden up there a bit with a buddy who lives in AK. I'm assuming its perfect for Kincaid? Does it handle Hillside well? I'm not one for big jumps but some of the technical trails there are about as big as I go. Most of his friends were on the Giant Trance or Specialized Stumpjumper. Thanks for the response! Super helpful to a analysis paralysis bike shopper.
@@FrankRiker I am too old for really big stuff on Hillside, but the guy at Chain Reaction shop rides is Ranger up there. Only uses a DH bike at Alyeska.
@@mtbyumyum my LBS has a Rascal-I had a blast demoing it... and the Ranger won’t be in until April... which means the Rascal will probably be gone by the time I can straddle the Ranger... what do I do?!?! #firstworldproblems
Great review, I have a frame on the way. Curious what offset did you run the lyrik at? Was there a big difference in climbing ability or reach with the longer fork?
I have ordered a T1000 Rascal with PUSH Eleven.Six shock and will upgrade the Pike Fork to 150mm with the PUSH ACS3 kit. I can't wait. Looks like i have another 3-4 weeks to go!
So, I have two questions, first, would you list detailed specs on the Rascal you bought? and second, based on your wonderful reviews of the Ripley and the Rascal, what would you say should be the ONE bike for the few of us that are just getting into the MTB world and want to own a good quality bike that we could own for years to come?
Great review. I pick up my rascal tomorrow or Thursday. Stoked! Glad to hear you talk a lot about the “right bike for the trails you ride.” I think people sometimes get caught up in what is the “best bike” without thinking about what is the “best bike for me and the trails I ride.”
Hey Jason. I ordered my Rascal locally and expecting delivery in the next month or so. I have an opportunity to build it with a Lyric Ultimate 150mm for cheaper than it would have been with the Pike Ultimate. The Lyric is probably (definitely) more fork than I need, but what are the advantages/disadvantages of going with the Lyric? Let's assume both forks are 150mm. I'm already aware of the weight difference. Thanks
Nice production on this video! This sounds like this is the type of bike I would really enjoy. Good point on not having to push the bike to have fun. That the thing about my old OG Hightower, it felt like you would have to push all the time for the bike to come alive.
Nice review. I've had a Rascal for 3+ months and am still amazed at how smooth the suspension travel is. What tires would you recommend to lighted it up a bit. The stock EVO+ rubber is great and beefy. Thinking a 2.4 front & rear would be ok with lighter EVO casing. Thanks
MTB yumyum Nice! I already have the title for you, greatest bike ever on planet earth🤣 It’s a great bike but there are so many great bikes out now it’s insane! You really can’t go wrong but man do I love the Ripley. I’ve bombed it down some really gnarly stuff and bottomed it out but that’s the fun! I’m also 230 so I’m a tad heavy.
Yet another amazing video Jason. Its a good bike for sure, but sold mine and went with a Switchblade v2. Had a few pivot bolt issues right out of the gate, but my main issue was rear flex.I'm a bigger guy and the amount of rear flex just wasn't my cup of brew. The new SB is stout. Climbs crazy good, down hill its a PR bike.. Flow, with the right wheels and tires, is just as fun. The SB has a big sweet spot for me, my body make up and my trails. Cheers Jason!
Yeah, I get it... the Switchblade is incredible!! I've had a lot of time on the new SB and feel like it's just about as good as you can get for a longer travel bike that you still want to have be a trail bike. What tires are you running on your SB?
@@mtbyumyum I was running a 2.4wt Dissector up front and a 2.3 Minion SS in the rear.. However, I just moved to a Bontrager xr4 2.6 upfront and a XR3 2.4 in the rear. I've always been a maxxis guy, but these XR tires are lite, fast rolling and really good control. I like them alot.
I probably should have bought the Rascal. I was bugged about how low the BB is. and I thought the SA should have been a half-degree steeper. It probably would have been totally fine.
Hey Jason, nice review! You need to put a 140mm air spring in your Ripley. I'll wait for V2 of the rascal, when they figure out the iscg-05 like ibis did. How hard is it for them to make an adapter?
Hey there Jason, Can you comment on how the bike handles slow speed techy stuff? East coaster here so not a lot of long fast downhills. Lots of roots, sharp rocks, slow speed stuff. Thanks!
It's good but I'd probably go with the Switchblade for tech... it climbs and gets through slow speed chunk better than anything out there including my incredibly capable Ibis Ripley. Good luck!
How is hucking to flat on that bike? Obviously there is some basic suspension tuning to help, but one of the reasons my Ripmo V2 is my “short travel” bike is because the stupid big drops to flat can be hushed really well with the X2 and the V2. The Ripley bottoms out to harshly for some of my trails. The Ripmo is too much bike for some of the other trails I ride, and it would be great to find something a bit between the Ripley and the Ripmo.
Im looking for a bike to complement my Pivot Trail 429 (2018 model with the shock under the top-tube). I think we are very similar riders and are looking for very much the same outlook on trails. I enjoy riding up as well as down, I like an engaging bike that needs to be piloted and not just sit back and be a passenger. I prefer corners and slow steep tech more than flat-out straight-line speed. I used to race XC but no prefer all day rides, I race enduro a bit with my son who has a Pivot SB V2. Ive ridden his bike and and prefer the more engaging feeling I have on the T429. So Im looking for something to complement my Pivot Trail 429 that will be a bit more capable at speed and allow me to go a bit faster on enduro races. Is the Revel to close to the Trail 429 do you think? -- many thanks, love your videos and reviews!
Damn that’s respectable with the lyrik. I’m tossed up between this bike the following V3. I would think if you could build this bike up around 28lbs with a pike. I have a long travel bruiser so the shorter travel is speaking to me
@@paulladakakos9581 I have about 7 rides on the Following V3. 130 Pike. It's at 28.6 lbs. Climbs in the same class as the Ripley I demo'ed. Excellent through twisty trails, and I'm right with my friend on his Ripmo on the downhills. He'd leave me in the dust on a few more difficult downhills, of course. Best bike I've owned. Started riding in '86 here in Utah. The problem is finding one. I bought mine after demoing a Pivot Trail 429, their Switchback, and the Ripley, and didn't have the ability to demo a Following. The shop allowed me to spin it around the block, etc., and I immediately felt like a great fit and I liked the snappy handling. Glad I took the risk.
I've justed demoed a rascal and a ranger. Loved them both and can't decide. Curious to hear your thoughts on the ranger- when are you going to put that one up on the channel? Curious where the ripley stands compared to the rascal and ranger. Right now leaning towards an upforked ranger 'brunch ride' as it was just so snappy and such a great climber but that rascal on the downs...
Good question... I've been waiting for a few weeks now to get on a Ranger... time will tell but this is for sure a topic I will address at some point. Thanks!
dude.. i like the new music edit haha! as usual, I agree! so many great bikes out there now. I DM'd you on IG that I sold my Ripmo for a SB150. It's definitely one of those.. need to be going mach chicken to squeeze out the most fun from it.
Yeah, so many good options right now!! Love love love the Yeti SB150... what a monster of a bike. Never could get myself to buy one but such a fun bike! Congrats!
I have the same exact set up on my 19 SC 5010 as you did to that Revel. So much more playful and no worries about hitting the bigger features. Have fun and be safe out there 👍🏆
Cool Jason! Hearing great things about Revel..... what about sb130 LR?? Have you still not reviewed that yet?? Seems like the best of everything maybe??
Yeah, I totally agree... cant believe I haven't ridden the sb130LR... Salt Cycles is building a size medium 130LR demo bike next week that I'll be able to take out... very excited about that bike!!
Really just depends on your terrain and riding style/speed... I preferred the 150mm fork but the 140mm Pike was still very good and capable. Good luck!
I have a switchblade. I sized down, and I find it to be super capable and very playful. I bought it over the rascal, mainly because I couldn't demo a rascal and my local shop helped me out with the switchblade.
Is the Swichblade better by a long shot than the Hightower? Both better than the Rascal? I really like the Swichblade but I do have some uphill pedaling and I'm thinking the hightower might pedal just as good? Really hoping for your input because I need to make a purchase!!
@@mattdonaldson4439 From my experience, the Switchblade pedals up and goes down hill better than all these bikes. The video and these comments confirm that too.
Jason, I have had the Ripley on order since June but it is not pushed to October. I just landed a deal on a Rascal and am considering cancelling the Ripley. I ride a lot of smoother trails in NC where the Ripley would be amazing but am worried of getting beat up in occasional trips to the mountains. I saw you upgraded the Ripley air shaft to 140mm. How close is it as far as descending now with the Rascal? If it is close I will probably keep the Ripley on order and wait until it comes to decide.
I would say even with the 140mm fork the Ripley gets bucked around more than the Rascal... You might consider the Pivot Switchblade.... climbs slightly better than the rascal and is incredible through the chunky stuff... geometry on the switchblade is perfect for an every day trail bike!!
@@mtbyumyum Sounds fantastic but a third bike in this mix would kill me (and not be popular with the wife)! The end goal is to have one bike. If you were stuck with the Ripley and Rascal and had to pick one, which would it be?
@@mtbyumyum ok. Will plan to join your next live stream. Have you gotten your hands on a Mojo 4 yet to test ride. Supply seems very limited...like most bikes.
i was looking to buy one of these after riding one in Tahoe. I own a Ripmo V1 which i love and compared geo and they are almost identical. Do you have any experience with the ranger ??
Question is: if the Ripmo v2 was readily available, would you still have bought the Rascal? It seems like you already sold it and are moving onto the Switchblade. I sense in your voice that the Rascal was "almost there" but perhaps it is too close to the Ripley to keep it as a second (bigger) bike?
You're right. From the first time I rode the Switchblade in St. George Utah back in February, I have not been able to get it out of my head... it's just to good. Excellent trail manners and can still send the gnarliest lines I'm willing to ride and at mach-chicken speeds!! Climbing... forget about it. Nothing this capable down hill should be able to climb this well. For everyday riders looks to get a little sendy and high speed, the Switchblade can't be beat!
@@mtbyumyum That's what I'm trying to figure out. You love every bike. I'm deciding between rascal, switchblade, and Ripmo v2 now. All my riding is in Crested Butte, CO. Help a fella out.
Nice edit Jason!! Awesome bike! Just ordered the Revel Ranger to replace my 429. Can`t wait. Just thinking today that a new edition of the Ripley might be do for next year. Crossing my fingers haha
Is the hightower comparable to the swichblade and rascal? Really like the new colors on hightower. I demoed the swichblade and it's awesome. I need to make a purchase. Is the Hightower that far behind on pedaling?
Yeah, the Switchblade feels quite a bit more efficient than the Hightower in my experience. The Hightower has an incredibly deep feeling on the descent though... the switchblade is the better every day trail bike. Good luck!
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I'm confused by the comment about needing to push the Ripley hard to have fun on it. I switched from a Ripmo last year and the Ripley is a lot more fun to me in Corner Canyon than the Ripmo was. Ripmo felt fun if I really got it going fast.
I’m in Australia ,love my Sb100 and wanting addition something bigger .I can’t get along with the poor climbing of my Norco optic c1 . The hills aren’t large but many and the descents aren’t real nasty. Thinking hard about the rascal and ripmo , both very rare here in Aus. The other kicker is rascal frame is $1400 cheaper and in stock. I want good uphill climbing with compliant descent What do you suggest? No demo available Happy with the sb130 climbing , just too heavy and long
Jason, what bike would you recommend including tires on a 27.5 platform for more on slow trail with lots of climbing and very minimal descent. That’s the type of trail I have here. I would appreciate your reply. Thanks.
Hands down, Ibis Ripley... it can be beat. The new Transition Spur looks very interesting and I'm anxiously waiting to get some demo time on that bike. As for 27.5 wheels, The Rocky Mountain Thunderbolt, Ibis mojo 3 and Evil Calling are both excellent options for the types of trails you'll be riding. Good luck!!
Nice comparison. At the moment I would vote for a test of the new transition spur or the yt Izzo, if these are not too xc for you. And if, I could still live with a test of the norco optic and Kona process (you ride lots of fancy suspension designs and the easy single pivot from Kona would be interesting);)
How do you feel about the rascal for longer rides (20-30 miles range) vs the ripmo? Ive been riding a ripmo for 2 years, and its been pretty good, but Ive always thought that if its not set up perfectly, it doesnt feel awesome. Also the super steep seat tube on the ripmo puts you in an uncomfortable position on longer riders. How would you say the rascal stacks up in these areas?
I'll let you in on a little secrete... I just ordered the 2022 S Works Stumpy frame in Satin Dusty Blue Pearl. Can't wait for it to get here in like 2 more days! From the time I first rode that bike a loved it buy they weren't available at the time. Ordered it from Backcountry. com Stumpjumper: bit.ly/3Subvip Really excited to build this thing up and ride it a few times before the snow falls...
Jason, absolutely love your videos. I'm a new rider and was thinking about the ripley. Would you recommend this bike you're reviewing or the ripley? I ride mostly flowy trails.
It's tough to beat the Ripley for flow trails... If your speeds aren't super high and you wont be riding too much chunky trails, the Ripley is the ticket!! Also, changing tires can make a big difference too...
I am curious, too. I have demoed Transitions and they seem to have really fun bikes. Scout would be right up his alley. I wonder if he would like the new TR Spur?
I only had mine for 4 months and about 400 miles... I put over 200 miles on the Salt Cycles demo bike that easily has over 1,500 miles on it... no creaks on that bike. Sorry dude, good luck!
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What size are you using. I know some people say to size up on revel. True ?
Thanks for your help, why the different shock and fork on the Ripmo is it for less weight?
Thanks for riding our bike!
Thank you!! Let me know when you get a 29er Rail... that's a bike I could get pretty excited about!!!
KC here, I just picked up a revel rascal frame the other day from my LBS. It's getting built up right now. Waiting on spacers for my fox dpx2.
Can't Wait! this is a beautiful looking bike
Just got my Rascal 3 weeks ago, I do feel like a better rider. Love my bike, your reviews pushed me over the top. Best review channel for MTB.
Nice, congrats on the new bike!! You'll love it.
Cracked open a cold beer and I am thoroughly going to enjoy this!
Yes!! Excellent. Enjoy!! (favorite comment so far!!)
Bought a Rascal last month. Still trying to tune it in but I have no complaints. It was between the Ripley and I decided I wanted 130mm out back and 150mm up front (Fox 36). Amazing combination. Does everything well. Bobs a lot more than the Ripley when climbing, so I'm trying to chase that down. Other than that, I think the Rascal is the standard bearer for the non-Enduro / DH bikes.
Yeah, I think the Rascal fills a nice spot between light trail riding and enduro riding... It's an excellent choice for everything with an emphasis on higher speed and chunk!
I would love to hear your thoughts on the Ranger when you can get on one, particularly compared to your Ripley and Rascal.
Yeah, I just need to track one down.
I think you nailed the description. It is the most versatile bike I’ve ridden. It changes attitude a lot just by changing sag from 30 to 25% more plush vs more poppy. I still love mine after over a year of shredding.
Thank you!
i got your hip pack in yesterday and I like it. I did not notice it on my first bike ride.
Great review. It would be great to see you review the new Evil Following and compare it to this and the Ripley. Thanks!
Yes, top of my list. Thank you!!
@@mtbyumyum Bought The Following from the Sports Den. Mike and Smitty are great. First ride today; PC Jenn's, Keystone, Scott's Pass to Puke Hill and back. Excellent climber. I demo'ed a Ripley from Bikers Edge about at month ago (Salt didn't have a demo). The large was too cramped in the cockpit (I'm 6') and didn't want to jump to XL. At around 1230mm wheelbase, it would have been a limo. I thought the Following climbed in the same class as the Ripley. It descended better, and was super playful and poppy. I bought it even though demos aren't available. The large fit like at glove. Hope you can get your hands on one eventually and do a comparo to the Rascal and Ripley. Love your channel!
John Woeste I really wanna try one! Rascal or Following 🤔 I ride an Insurgent now
@@EdwargGz I've only spun a Rascal around a bike shop parking lot so I can't offer sound advice. However, the Following continues to amaze me. Today, I made it up a 2700 foot climb in Park City as fast as I've ever done in my Scalpel. I was able to hang with two guys riding Santa Cruz Bronson's on the downhills. I'm very impressed with the bike.
Please please Revel Ranger vs Ibis Ripley. On a Ripley now, but have wanted a CBF bike for YEARS
Vs. SB115 vs. Transition Spur
Alex Rodriguez Sooooo many amazing choices right now
The Transition Spur is most interesting to me right now. Light weight, excellent geo... the sb115 is a joke... it's just a redo on the 100. Range is interesting but I doubt it will be light weight....
MTB yumyum Unfortunately I have long torso and short legs, so the seat tube length on the Spur eliminates it. Super boost on Following eliminated that.
MTB yumyum what about 2021 Specialized Epic Evo and Evil Following v3?
Couldn't agree more with the build. The lyrik up front makes this bike much more capable than the 140 Pike. I thought the Rascal was close to the Ripmo before with the Pike, now with the Lyrik, I think it is right there.
Yeah, I really like the beefier fork up front but I'm not sure it's right there with the likes of the Ripmo, Hightower, Offering or Switchblade even still.... but it's close...
I just picked up the Rascal frame the other day.. It's getting built as we speak.. thanks for your reviews
Good choice! Enjoy!
I debated for months between the Rascal and the SB130. Ended up going with the SB130 since my LBS carried the brand and was able to demo, but wish I had the opportunity to ride one of the Rascals. Love how you put the Lyrik on it with full XTR. Good call.
Yeah, this build kit is so nice.... been loving it! I've been wanting to get more time on the sb130 and try the lr as well...
Would love to see you do a review of the Guerrilla Gravity Smash.
Yeah, me too. No clue how to get one to demo...
I bet GG would send you one because your audience is pretty large. Email them! 😜👍🏻
@@mtbyumyum I know a guy there. I could probably get you in touch with someone who makes decisions.
For just having one bike would you rather have the Ibis Ripmo or the Rascal . I ride all over the place . Desert and Mountains. I would probably be an intermediate rider. Thanks
Honestly, probably the Ripmo but not how it’s currently offered. Go with a fox 36 and float x shock instead of the 38 and X2... Call Chris at Salt Cycles and he can get you set up with the right stuff and a killer deal!! # 801-943-8502
Would love to see a head to head with the SB130. I demoed a 130 and really loved it! I am leaning toward buying the 130 but have also had my eye on the Rascal but can't find a demo here in N.C. Or if you could just give me your thoughts on the differences as I know you have ridden the 130 also! Thanks!!!
The sb130 feels like the more precise bike. Not as stable at high speed and more ridged feeling particularly over square edge hits. I would say the sb130 is more similar to the Pivot Trail 429... it's not as forgiving as the Rascal in the rougher terrain. The Rascal feels like the easier bike to ride... the sb130 feels like a race bike... the harder you push it the better it gets sort of feel. Both climb very well... good luck!!
@@mtbyumyum I haven't rode the Rascal yet, but the SB130 definitely feels like a race bike. It's almost kinda (I don't want to say boring so lets just say less fun) unless you're railing it and then it's like a whole different bike. IMHO SB130 is for those who like wide open SPEED. Like a super aggressive XC bike or a mini enduro bike. It's hard for me to call it a trail bike because trail riders usually just like to cruise. lol. Kinda Rigid in the slow speed rock gardens too.
They make the best looking bikes imo.
This vs Fezzari’s Delano peak?
Wondering the same. Stuck between the two, I have a Signal Peak now and looking to add on with a mid travel.
I've ridden both the Delano and Rascal. No comparison. Rascal better in every way. I rode the Delano a dozen times and could never get it to feel right despite numerous tweaks to cockpit and suspension. First ride on the Rascal felt just right. Delano feels cramped. Rascal has less travel but feels like it has much more travel and yet pedals far better. Delano pretty much needs the pro pedal switched on, didn't feel I needed it on the Rascal. Delano feels like a big bike and is a handful on tight turns and at low speed and feels vague. Rascal is snappy and much more precise feeling and fun at all speeds. Now I just can't decide between Ranger, Ripley, or Rascal (haven't tried the Ripley)...
I bought a Ranger a few months ago to replace my 1999 SC superlite! Wow the Ranger is kickass and does fine on 20 mile payment rides with knobbies. I went with the black frame and XX1 components. It is a joy to ride, but I might need a Rail for the bigger stuff on the hillside trails here in Anchorage, AK.
How would you say the ranger compares to say the Ripley, Stumpy, or Trail 429?
@@FrankRiker I have not demoed those other bikes. I tested out the Ranger and this was the first time on a 29 incher. The guys at Chain Reaction here in Anchorage, AK ride the Ranger. And bring out the big downhill guns when riding the lifts at Alyeska resort.
@@adriandmd I've ridden up there a bit with a buddy who lives in AK. I'm assuming its perfect for Kincaid? Does it handle Hillside well? I'm not one for big jumps but some of the technical trails there are about as big as I go. Most of his friends were on the Giant Trance or Specialized Stumpjumper. Thanks for the response! Super helpful to a analysis paralysis bike shopper.
@@FrankRiker I am too old for really big stuff on Hillside, but the guy at Chain Reaction shop rides is Ranger up there. Only uses a DH bike at Alyeska.
@@adriandmd Thanks again Adrian!
Great review! Curious how you would you compare this to the new Ripley V5?
I’m hoping you can discuss the Rascal vs Ranger in your pending Ranger review or maybe on a live Q&A. Thank you for your reviews!
I don't think I made the connection between the two in the video... maybe we'll have to do another live stream to discuss...
@@mtbyumyum my LBS has a Rascal-I had a blast demoing it... and the Ranger won’t be in until April... which means the Rascal will probably be gone by the time I can straddle the Ranger... what do I do?!?! #firstworldproblems
Great review, I have a frame on the way. Curious what offset did you run the lyrik at? Was there a big difference in climbing ability or reach with the longer fork?
I have ordered a T1000 Rascal with PUSH Eleven.Six shock and will upgrade the Pike Fork to 150mm with the PUSH ACS3 kit. I can't wait. Looks like i have another 3-4 weeks to go!
Nice, congrats. That things going to be a beast!!
So, I have two questions, first, would you list detailed specs on the Rascal you bought? and second, based on your wonderful reviews of the Ripley and the Rascal, what would you say should be the ONE bike for the few of us that are just getting into the MTB world and want to own a good quality bike that we could own for years to come?
A bike that can fill the shoes of ripmo is something to look up to. Thanks for the great review
Yeah, this bike can hang for sure!
Great review. I pick up my rascal tomorrow or Thursday. Stoked! Glad to hear you talk a lot about the “right bike for the trails you ride.” I think people sometimes get caught up in what is the “best bike” without thinking about what is the “best bike for me and the trails I ride.”
Nice, congrats! Yeah, speed, riding style and terrain are major factors in what bike is right for someone. Thanks!
Hey Jason. I ordered my Rascal locally and expecting delivery in the next month or so. I have an opportunity to build it with a Lyric Ultimate 150mm for cheaper than it would have been with the Pike Ultimate. The Lyric is probably (definitely) more fork than I need, but what are the advantages/disadvantages of going with the Lyric? Let's assume both forks are 150mm. I'm already aware of the weight difference. Thanks
Nice production on this video! This sounds like this is the type of bike I would really enjoy. Good point on not having to push the bike to have fun. That the thing about my old OG Hightower, it felt like you would have to push all the time for the bike to come alive.
Yeah it's been a lot of fun. Pretty similar to your Tallboy really...
Nice review. I've had a Rascal for 3+ months and am still amazed at how smooth the suspension travel is. What tires would you recommend to lighted it up a bit. The stock EVO+ rubber is great and beefy. Thinking a 2.4 front & rear would be ok with lighter EVO casing. Thanks
I ran a bunch of different tires... 2.5 dhf 2.3 aggressor 2.4 dhr II 2.4 Dissector and even lighter weight xc tires...
Chundery definitely needs to be said with an Australian accent. The Chunda from down unda!
Also, Ripley V4 owner here! 1 year on and love it!
My next video upload will be my long term (1 year) review of the Ibis Ripley V4
MTB yumyum Nice! I already have the title for you, greatest bike ever on planet earth🤣
It’s a great bike but there are so many great bikes out now it’s insane! You really can’t go wrong but man do I love the Ripley. I’ve bombed it down some really gnarly stuff and bottomed it out but that’s the fun! I’m also 230 so I’m a tad heavy.
Wonder how it would ride if you put a fox 36 up front and a DPX2 out back
Yet another amazing video Jason. Its a good bike for sure, but sold mine and went with a Switchblade v2. Had a few pivot bolt issues right out of the gate, but my main issue was rear flex.I'm a bigger guy and the amount of rear flex just wasn't my cup of brew. The new SB is stout. Climbs crazy good, down hill its a PR bike.. Flow, with the right wheels and tires, is just as fun. The SB has a big sweet spot for me, my body make up and my trails. Cheers Jason!
Yeah, I get it... the Switchblade is incredible!! I've had a lot of time on the new SB and feel like it's just about as good as you can get for a longer travel bike that you still want to have be a trail bike. What tires are you running on your SB?
@@mtbyumyum I was running a 2.4wt Dissector up front and a 2.3 Minion SS in the rear.. However, I just moved to a Bontrager xr4 2.6 upfront and a XR3 2.4 in the rear. I've always been a maxxis guy, but these XR tires are lite, fast rolling and really good control. I like them alot.
RyanoMTB I’ve been thinking of running this exact same tire combo. How has it been?
I probably should have bought the Rascal. I was bugged about how low the BB is. and I thought the SA should have been a half-degree steeper. It probably would have been totally fine.
What DID you buy?
Switching to a 150 fork raises the BB and reduces pedal strikes.
Furion Ripmo
Nathan Baier that idea is why I wanted the seat angle to start steeper.
@@NB-ski so which bike is too low and destroying crankset and pedals? The rascal?
I just bought a Revel Rascal and love it. When you put the 150 Lyric on did you lose any of the playfulness of the bike?
Maybe slightly.... but for me it fit the bill
Awesome work on the intro. Cool seeing some 3rd person shots (good music too)
Thank you!!
Hey Jason, nice review! You need to put a 140mm air spring in your Ripley. I'll wait for V2 of the rascal, when they figure out the iscg-05 like ibis did. How hard is it for them to make an adapter?
Yeah, I need to get my fork bumped on the Ripley for sure... I'll take it in tomorrow actually. Thanks!
@@mtbyumyum Same here, I have the air spring, just don't want to give up the bike for a week. Please let us know the results! Thank's!
Hey there Jason, Can you comment on how the bike handles slow speed techy stuff? East coaster here so not a lot of long fast downhills. Lots of roots, sharp rocks, slow speed stuff. Thanks!
It's good but I'd probably go with the Switchblade for tech... it climbs and gets through slow speed chunk better than anything out there including my incredibly capable Ibis Ripley. Good luck!
It would be nice if you could review Fezzari’s Carbon enduro bike, the La Sal Peak. Fezzari is a Utah direct to consumer brand.
How is hucking to flat on that bike? Obviously there is some basic suspension tuning to help, but one of the reasons my Ripmo V2 is my “short travel” bike is because the stupid big drops to flat can be hushed really well with the X2 and the V2. The Ripley bottoms out to harshly for some of my trails. The Ripmo is too much bike for some of the other trails I ride, and it would be great to find something a bit between the Ripley and the Ripmo.
You might find the Rascal right up your alley... or even the Pivot Switchblade...
Im looking for a bike to complement my Pivot Trail 429 (2018 model with the shock under the top-tube). I think we are very similar riders and are looking for very much the same outlook on trails. I enjoy riding up as well as down, I like an engaging bike that needs to be piloted and not just sit back and be a passenger. I prefer corners and slow steep tech more than flat-out straight-line speed. I used to race XC but no prefer all day rides, I race enduro a bit with my son who has a Pivot SB V2. Ive ridden his bike and and prefer the more engaging feeling I have on the T429. So Im looking for something to complement my Pivot Trail 429 that will be a bit more capable at speed and allow me to go a bit faster on enduro races. Is the Revel to close to the Trail 429 do you think? -- many thanks, love your videos and reviews!
Can you do a review on the Revel Ranger?
How does this bike compare with the Fezzari Delano Peak bike? They seem to be similar in a lot of ways. Have you ridden one of those Fezzari bikes?
Ah, cool! Another Yumyum video, thank you!
Glad you like them!
Your reviews are awesome! Thank you very much!
Thanks!!
Thanks for the great input. This is definitely on my list. What does yours wiegh?
I wish I would have listed the weight in the video... 29 lbs 2 oz
@@mtbyumyum Gracias
Damn that’s respectable with the lyrik. I’m tossed up between this bike the following V3. I would think if you could build this bike up around 28lbs with a pike. I have a long travel bruiser so the shorter travel is speaking to me
@@paulladakakos9581 I have about 7 rides on the Following V3. 130 Pike. It's at 28.6 lbs. Climbs in the same class as the Ripley I demo'ed. Excellent through twisty trails, and I'm right with my friend on his Ripmo on the downhills. He'd leave me in the dust on a few more difficult downhills, of course. Best bike I've owned. Started riding in '86 here in Utah. The problem is finding one. I bought mine after demoing a Pivot Trail 429, their Switchback, and the Ripley, and didn't have the ability to demo a Following. The shop allowed me to spin it around the block, etc., and I immediately felt like a great fit and I liked the snappy handling. Glad I took the risk.
I've justed demoed a rascal and a ranger. Loved them both and can't decide. Curious to hear your thoughts on the ranger- when are you going to put that one up on the channel? Curious where the ripley stands compared to the rascal and ranger. Right now leaning towards an upforked ranger 'brunch ride' as it was just so snappy and such a great climber but that rascal on the downs...
Good question... I've been waiting for a few weeks now to get on a Ranger... time will tell but this is for sure a topic I will address at some point. Thanks!
Can u do a review with yeti sb115 and compare it to ibis ripley? 😁
Hi, what offset on the fork are you running? I'm planning on running it 150 also
dude.. i like the new music edit haha! as usual, I agree! so many great bikes out there now. I DM'd you on IG that I sold my Ripmo for a SB150. It's definitely one of those.. need to be going mach chicken to squeeze out the most fun from it.
Yeah, so many good options right now!! Love love love the Yeti SB150... what a monster of a bike. Never could get myself to buy one but such a fun bike! Congrats!
@@mtbyumyum i'm turning into you. in 6 months i'll want to ride something else LOL
I have the same exact set up on my 19 SC 5010 as you did to that Revel.
So much more playful and no worries about hitting the bigger features.
Have fun and be safe out there 👍🏆
Right on
Cool Jason! Hearing great things about Revel..... what about sb130 LR?? Have you still not reviewed that yet?? Seems like the best of everything maybe??
Yeah, I totally agree... cant believe I haven't ridden the sb130LR... Salt Cycles is building a size medium 130LR demo bike next week that I'll be able to take out... very excited about that bike!!
I am looking at the Rascal. I am 5’9”. Which puts me at the end of a medium or the beginning of a large. Any comments?
Since you have ridden both., any downsides in going with the 150 Lyric vs. the stock build 140 Pike?
Really just depends on your terrain and riding style/speed... I preferred the 150mm fork but the 140mm Pike was still very good and capable. Good luck!
@@mtbyumyum thanks. Much appreciated.
Hey Jason, What will I be missing in terms of the "Fun Factor" if I go with a Switchblade instead of a Revel?
Almost nothing... the Switchblade is incredible and most similar to this bike of any of the other longer travel 29ers available right now.
I have a switchblade. I sized down, and I find it to be super capable and very playful. I bought it over the rascal, mainly because I couldn't demo a rascal and my local shop helped me out with the switchblade.
I also went switchblade. Partly because it fit me better. Love it up. Love it down.
Is the Swichblade better by a long shot than the Hightower? Both better than the Rascal? I really like the Swichblade but I do have some uphill pedaling and I'm thinking the hightower might pedal just as good? Really hoping for your input because I need to make a purchase!!
@@mattdonaldson4439 From my experience, the Switchblade pedals up and goes down hill better than all these bikes. The video and these comments confirm that too.
Jason, I have had the Ripley on order since June but it is not pushed to October. I just landed a deal on a Rascal and am considering cancelling the Ripley. I ride a lot of smoother trails in NC where the Ripley would be amazing but am worried of getting beat up in occasional trips to the mountains. I saw you upgraded the Ripley air shaft to 140mm. How close is it as far as descending now with the Rascal? If it is close I will probably keep the Ripley on order and wait until it comes to decide.
I would say even with the 140mm fork the Ripley gets bucked around more than the Rascal... You might consider the Pivot Switchblade.... climbs slightly better than the rascal and is incredible through the chunky stuff... geometry on the switchblade is perfect for an every day trail bike!!
@@mtbyumyum Sounds fantastic but a third bike in this mix would kill me (and not be popular with the wife)! The end goal is to have one bike. If you were stuck with the Ripley and Rascal and had to pick one, which would it be?
CBF vs Traction Tune. Compare and contrast please.
This would take too much time... maybe in our next live stream we discuss this....
@@mtbyumyum ok. Will plan to join your next live stream. Have you gotten your hands on a Mojo 4 yet to test ride. Supply seems very limited...like most bikes.
How would you compare the pedaling and climbing ability both technical and non-technical between this bike and the new switchblade?
Yumyum amigo make a review of Commencal Rt 29.. im thinking to buy a trail bike .. graxias amigo
haha I would like to but they're almost impossible for me to demo without just buying one....
Since you seemed to love your V1 Hightower back in the day, how does the rascal compare head to head with the V1?
i was looking to buy one of these after riding one in Tahoe. I own a Ripmo V1 which i love and compared geo and they are almost identical. Do you have any experience with the ranger
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Damn . Tyler can shred . Looks effortless
He's insane!!
Can you provide your thoughts comparing to the Evil Offering? Climbing, Descending, Chunder?
Question is: if the Ripmo v2 was readily available, would you still have bought the Rascal? It seems like you already sold it and are moving onto the Switchblade. I sense in your voice that the Rascal was "almost there" but perhaps it is too close to the Ripley to keep it as a second (bigger) bike?
You're right. From the first time I rode the Switchblade in St. George Utah back in February, I have not been able to get it out of my head... it's just to good. Excellent trail manners and can still send the gnarliest lines I'm willing to ride and at mach-chicken speeds!! Climbing... forget about it. Nothing this capable down hill should be able to climb this well. For everyday riders looks to get a little sendy and high speed, the Switchblade can't be beat!
@@mtbyumyum Are you saying it's even better than the Ripmo V2? You were pretty excited after riding it too!
@@mtbyumyum That's what I'm trying to figure out. You love every bike. I'm deciding between rascal, switchblade, and Ripmo v2 now. All my riding is in Crested Butte, CO. Help a fella out.
Nice edit Jason!! Awesome bike! Just ordered the Revel Ranger to replace my 429. Can`t wait. Just thinking today that a new edition of the Ripley might be do for next year. Crossing my fingers haha
Congrats! Yeah, the Ripley has been incredible... can't imagine how they'd make it better?!?!?!?!
Have you had a chance to compare this to the Ranger?
Is the hightower comparable to the swichblade and rascal? Really like the new colors on hightower. I demoed the swichblade and it's awesome. I need to make a purchase. Is the Hightower that far behind on pedaling?
Yeah, the Switchblade feels quite a bit more efficient than the Hightower in my experience. The Hightower has an incredibly deep feeling on the descent though... the switchblade is the better every day trail bike. Good luck!
Have you ridded the Rail29 yet? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts.
Not yet but it is the bike I'm most excited about right now... Been trying to track one down for some time now.
@@mtbyumyum Cool! I rode it, and thought it was fun, but would love your opinion on it vs. the Rascal because you ride so many more bikes than I do.
Nice bike.. Would you compare it to the evil following?
I haven't ridden the new evil following but yeah, I would say it's more capable than the previous evil following
Have you ridden the Pivot trail 429 Enduro build yet? If so would that be your choice over this bike and the switchblade?
Hey Jason, you mentioned that when you put XC tires on the Rascal it comes to life. What tires are you referring to?
Rekon 2.4 front: bit.ly/3tyhmqQ
Ardent Race 2.35 rear: bit.ly/33S0637
Very fast rolling but still good traction... my go-to trail setup!! over 1,000 miles on this combo and still loving it! These are affiliate links that pay me a small commission. Thanks for the support!!
Awesome review man! I’m also building up a rascal with a 150mm fork, can I ask if you kept the offset at 51 still? Thanks!!
yep
What would be difference btw choosing 150 Pike vs 150 Lyric for 160lbs rider Jason?
@@toddsmith1709 you want the Lyric for some added stiffness. It'll track better at speed and give you a bit more stability under brake loads.
Hey, have a question in your ripley: have you ridden it with a 140mm fork. Would set it to 66°head hangle and a very fun and light bike
Yes, I recently changed the fork to 140mm... so far so good!!
Wow that just looks like a very good bike.
The lines just look like...ride me... i wonder how it would ride with 27.5 and a 160 fork.
I'm confused by the comment about needing to push the Ripley hard to have fun on it. I switched from a Ripmo last year and the Ripley is a lot more fun to me in Corner Canyon than the Ripmo was. Ripmo felt fun if I really got it going fast.
I’m in Australia ,love my Sb100 and wanting addition something bigger .I can’t get along with the poor climbing of my Norco optic c1 . The hills aren’t large but many and the descents aren’t real nasty. Thinking hard about the rascal and ripmo , both very rare here in Aus.
The other kicker is rascal frame is $1400 cheaper and in stock.
I want good uphill climbing with compliant descent
What do you suggest? No demo available
Happy with the sb130 climbing , just too heavy and long
I'd go with the Pivot Switchblade if it were me... Climbs better then all the bikes you mentions and is excellent on the descent. Good luck!
Have you ridden a Sqweeb, wondering how that compares with the Rascal, seems pretty close based on geometry?
How do you compare it to the Specialized 2019-2020 Stumpjumper carbon expert you reviewed about a year ago?
Jason, what bike would you recommend including tires on a 27.5 platform for more on slow trail with lots of climbing and very minimal descent. That’s the type of trail I have here. I would appreciate your reply. Thanks.
Hands down, Ibis Ripley... it can be beat. The new Transition Spur looks very interesting and I'm anxiously waiting to get some demo time on that bike. As for 27.5 wheels, The Rocky Mountain Thunderbolt, Ibis mojo 3 and Evil Calling are both excellent options for the types of trails you'll be riding. Good luck!!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen you so excited about a bike!🤙😃
This has been a fun one for sure!!
Great video and bike! Ever ride any aggressive hardtails?
Idk what it is but bikes that have the shock that connects to the down tube like that seem to be more fun to ride.
I'm not sure that's true....
When is your review of the Revel Ranger coming out?!?!
just started the edit... there is a lot of mic noise that I'm trying to edit out... could be a anther week or so..
@@mtbyumyum thank you for the update
@@mtbyumyum still no ranger video? Would love to see it
Also curious if there is a Revel Ranger video coming out.
@@alexuceny23 he, i.e. Jason, had some serious problems with the audio... My guess is it might not be released, (ever)
A last question: don't you think the rascal is a tad heavy on the frame for a 130mm bike? Nearly 500g more than the rm instinct or ripmo
Yeah, it's without question heavy but it rides like a much bigger bike....
Nice comparison. At the moment I would vote for a test of the new transition spur or the yt Izzo, if these are not too xc for you. And if, I could still live with a test of the norco optic and Kona process (you ride lots of fancy suspension designs and the easy single pivot from Kona would be interesting);)
Yeah, I'm looking forward to riding the Spur... love shorter travel 29ers!!
How does the Revel Rascal compare to the Revel Rail in ride quality climbing and defending?
they're really just very different... the rascal feels faster to me... even in the rougher stuff. That bike is unreal!!
Jason, had the Sedona frame been available would you have bought that over the T1000..tough decision. Also, what are your wheels on your Rascal build?
Did you keep the 51mm offset when you changed the fork or did you shift to 44mm?
This bike looks so simple and solid!
it is!! the CBF suspension is incredible!!
Are you going to demo the new Ranger ?
if I can get one I'll review it!
@@mtbyumyum hell yeah. Thought the next bike they'd come out with would be a long travel 29er but the Ranger looks pretty sweet
Do you still ride the Revel how does it still compare with you other current bikes.... Is it a great trail bike
Ok if you could only pick one: rascal or sb130?
Ripmo
Nice review man. I’ve been wanting to throw my leg over this bike for awhile. Hope to demo one soon
You should! Thanks!
How much does it weigh and is it heavier than the Ripmo?
Yes, it was almost a pound heavier than the Ripmo with a very similar build...
How do you feel about the rascal for longer rides (20-30 miles range) vs the ripmo? Ive been riding a ripmo for 2 years, and its been pretty good, but Ive always thought that if its not set up perfectly, it doesnt feel awesome. Also the super steep seat tube on the ripmo puts you in an uncomfortable position on longer riders. How would you say the rascal stacks up in these areas?
Yeah, rascal might be a fun move from your current ripmo.... I really liked the rascal a lot!!
Just bought a Rascal. Curious what “fast tires” you ran?
I’m curious if you actually see this. How would you compare the Rascal against the new stumpjumper?
I'll let you in on a little secrete... I just ordered the 2022 S Works Stumpy frame in Satin Dusty Blue Pearl. Can't wait for it to get here in like 2 more days! From the time I first rode that bike a loved it buy they weren't available at the time. Ordered it from Backcountry. com Stumpjumper: bit.ly/3Subvip Really excited to build this thing up and ride it a few times before the snow falls...
@@mtbyumyum I literally have the same one hah
how does it compare to Norco Optic?
a year later, do you still own this?
Jason, absolutely love your videos. I'm a new rider and was thinking about the ripley. Would you recommend this bike you're reviewing or the ripley? I ride mostly flowy trails.
It's tough to beat the Ripley for flow trails... If your speeds aren't super high and you wont be riding too much chunky trails, the Ripley is the ticket!! Also, changing tires can make a big difference too...
Cool , thanks for the review ! Have you ridden the new TR Scout yet ?
I am curious, too. I have demoed Transitions and they seem to have really fun bikes. Scout would be right up his alley. I wonder if he would like the new TR Spur?
I've never ridden a Transition bike... would like to get some time on the new Spur...
Love the bike!
I have issue with my Rascal being creaky. Any issues? Thanks
I only had mine for 4 months and about 400 miles... I put over 200 miles on the Salt Cycles demo bike that easily has over 1,500 miles on it... no creaks on that bike. Sorry dude, good luck!
Good deal! A ton of pivots on these bikes. Rides great. Sort of a small large which I like. Just sounds like it is going to fall apart 🎧