Pivot Switchblade vs Revel Rascal // extended test ride & review
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2020 Pivot Switchblade vs 2019 Revel Rascal
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I watched several of your bike reviews comparing the Switchblade to various other bikes. I ultimately ended up going with the Switchblade. After testing it, that bike just felt so comfortable no matter what I was putting it through. The Switchblade suspension feels really stable. Even when I messed up and got off of the ideal line, the Switchblade's suspension was like "no problem, I'll eat that up for you"! I also agree with you on its climbing ability, it truly does like to climb. I honestly couldn't be happier with my purchase.
Nice, congrats!
I’ve bought a new mountain bike every spring for the last 6 years. Last spring I got a Rascal. This is the first time I haven’t wanted to get a newer model. I’m just excited for year 2 on the Rascal. It really is a do anything bike. I couldn’t be happier.
So good to hear... thank you!
MTB yumyum for what its worth I know some of the guys at revel are riding a 150 fork on theirs. I asked them about it cause I’m planning on setting my helm to 150 this year.
your channel is a great resource of information for anyone looking for a MTB. Keep up the AWESOME work Jason!
Glad you like them! Thank you
@@mtbyumyum I just had this vid suggested to me via YT and it's on point. Rarely do you see 2 upscale mtb's compared back to back in one vid. It's always a breakdown of one bike, and a lot of the same old bunk tossed at us. I'm shopping for a new rig and the Switchblade was at the top of the list, but maybe I should demo a Revel too. Anyway, solid work I dig your channel...subbed.
Just bought my rascal last week and was really impressed with the company's communication. The shop manager was on the phone with Revel's owner reviewing availability and getting advice, plus the founder is from my hometown in Alaska so it's nice to have a bit of support for that.
Nice! Yeah, Why Cycles started in Utah. Only after moving to Colorado did they start Revel... so, I like that about the brand as well
Just placed order for my Rascal last week after demoing one from there headquarters in Carbondale, CO. Put a deposit down for expected delivery date of Sept. 1st.
I've been riding my Rascal for about 2 months now and all I can say is it hits the sweet spot! I love it!
Great to hear! I've had a blast on this Rascal for the past 2 weeks!
Took delivery of my Rascal about a month ago, ridden it five times and still getting it dialed in but so far the clearest perception I have is how well it descends for the travel (this has been said many times). I also rode a Ripmo and a Ripley before buying it and I felt the Rascal was right in between the two. For slower chunky technical descents where I pick my way down the trail the Ripmo and Rascal were very similar but I found as speed picked up going downhill the Rascal clearly set itself apart from the Ripmo. Going up, the Ripley is the clear winner but I'm not racing anyone to the top. I'm a one bike guy and needed versatility to take the bike from local flow to Whistler and I think the Rascal will fit the bill. Downsides, this is my first time riding SRAM and I bought the GX build with guide r brakes, and imo this group set is not worthy of being bolted to this frame.
Thank you for the insight!! I felt very similar to you... the Rascal holds it's own once the speed kicks up and I honestly think this bike with be worthy to hammer any trail I ride at a blurring rate of speed once I put a Lyrik up front!! Also, I agree... wish they had a slx or xt budget option....
@@mtbyumyum I would have preferred a XT groupo for sure.
Dr. JBN I have two Pivot Bikes one with Shimano and one with SRAM. Saints and Codes. Both work perfectly fine.
I agree as well on you assessment Dr. JBN. I did reviews on all three on my channel and just took delivery last week on my Ripmo 2. My perception is the Rascal is in the middle. Also agree that GX is not really good for that bike, xt is a much better offering.
@@travelthenarrowtrail8660 Love that new color on your Ripmo V2!
I just built up a Rascal with a Fox 36/dpx2. This is a great setup and overall bike. It can climb and descend! My only issue was pedal strikes, had to install 170 cranks. I do pedal through my corners...maybe more so than most and honestly think I could run 165"s on it, or bump up the travel in front to 150. I had a Evil following MB that i could never make friends with unfortunately. The Revel has made me super happy with its performance
Yeah, the Rascal just feels right to me... very connected feeling that I agree was lacking on the Following mb...
I've been following your channel for 2 years now and no one gives a better review than you! I demoed a few pivots and was all set on a firebird 29 until the new switchblade came out. Based on your review in St George and all the chunk you took it through, I knew it was the bike for me! So thank you for that because I absolutely love my switchblade! Sounds like you are leaning toward the Rascal at the moment. Good luck with either choice!
Thanks Chris. Sounds like the new Switchblade came out just in time!! Such a good bike.... yeah, I'd like to try something different and new so I'll likely build up a Rascal
I’ve had my Rascal built with a 150mm Fox36 since last October, and it is the best trail bike I’ve ever ridden. I never rode it in the stock setup, but 150/130 is dialed for pretty much everything in Pisgah. For me it was this or the Druid, but they were sold out when I was buying the new frame.
good to hear... I'm excited to give it a try!
Amos - did you demo with a 140 fork prior to buying? Curious the differences. I have a 140 pike on mine and thinking about going to a 150 lyrik or Fox.
Love the in depth analysis! We talk a lot about climbing and descending, and I can pull bits of info regarding how nimble, poppy, etc. a bike is, but after all these reviews I've got one question...
Of all the bikes you've ridden over the past two years or so, what is the most "playful" bike that would be good daily driver for Utah trails? For me it's all about FUN! Let's hear the top 29er and top 27.5.
wow.... that's a loaded question. Thank you! I'll give it some though and we can address it in the live stream Thursday evening!!
I sold my megatower and bought a new switchblade and I've never rode a better bike. I was worried about getting another long travel bike because of how bad of a taste the megatower left but I'm super happy I went with the switchblade. I too considered a rascal but got a ridiculous deal on a switchblade. Not mad but now super interested in riding a rascal sometime. Also, gonna try dropping from 40mm to 32 mm stem to shorten it up. I too am on a medium.
Nice, yeah, the blade is sooo good!
Great video! Really timely. I was going to Moab (1st time) this Sat and the trip was bagged. I was renting a Rascal for the week with intentions of possibly building one. I will not be able to demo one this year. Other options I was exploring were the Pivot Switchblade, Orbea Occam, Yeti SB130, Santa Cruz Tallboy, and the Ibis Ripley. What I love about this video is that you didn't just talk about the climb and descents. I live in New England and too often that's all we get out of reviews (Climbing and descending big lines out west). What we need to know is everything in the middle. I'm now even more sold on the Rascal than before and the Pivot is out...Just what I needed.
bummer about your trip... Yeah, I try to cover a bunch of different aspects of the test ride... Good luck on what you decide to do... I will likely go with a Rascal myself!!
I really wanted to like the rascal after all I heard about it. Tried the rascal too, and then the switchblade as well. And to your credit I totally agreed with the assessment of the rascal riding more fun in most situations.
That said, reading through the white papers of both suspension design I ultimately went for the pivot. I still don’t see the idea of removing the rider from the suspension equation as a design philosophy that I can get behind on. Hence I went for the switchblade ultimately because the suspension design felt superior to me.
So I agree that the rascal rides awesome, but I know that my mind would always nag at me for buying the less well designed suspension curve llol.
@@87togabito I don't think anybody intentionally "removes the rider from the suspension equation", but you obviously spotted something, made me curious can you elaborate?, tell us what exactly felt inferior on the suspension for the Rascal vs the Switchblade?. thanks.
Hey I love the channel and you helped me choose the ibis ripmo. I saw you in salt cycles but didn’t want to bug you with your daughter. Thanks so much for The videos, they’re so great!!
Hey, thanks! Please feel free to say what's up next time! Congrats on the Ripmo!
In your Thursday video I would like to hear your thoughts on these two bikes vs the Ripmo V1 and V2. Your commentary and thoughts were awesome on this video, one of your best.
You got it. Thank you!
Seems like you’re a very light rider. My experience with the Rascal:
Pro’s:
-supreme climber
-it feels fast and agile.
Cons:
-uses all the rear suspension on small drops but doesn’t feel harsh at all
-bearing noise coming from the rear (it was crashed demo)
Imo the Ripmo V1 climbs on par, but feels livelier and more capable on the downhills. All though I will make the jump and drops on either bike.
Thanks for weighing in! Yeah, the demo bike I was riding has been a demo bike for more than 6 months with likely over 1,500 miles on it.... dead quiet!! Silent!
Thanks for all the great videos. Could you please do a review on the Orbea Occam?
How come you never review Transition bikes if Salt Cycles carries them? Just curious that’s all. Nice review.
BTW...Jason, at your mass, you may just consider simply changing the air spring to a 150 on the Pike. Fairly certain that will work on the 140mm Pike Ultimate (ask Salt Cycles). $42 Pike has 35mm stanchions and at 6'1" and 225lbs on rough terrain, I'm pretty happy with that.
Yes, I totally agree but.... that red Lyrik on a T1000 frame would look insane!!!
Had a 429 Trail and a Ripmo V1. Recently sold both and just ordered a Rascal to hopefully replace the capabilities of both.
Yes!! That sounds about right. Good luck!
Great review. I just bought the Pivot Switchblade two weeks ago and absolutely love it. Demo Ibis Ripmo loved it, Santa Cruz Hightower liked it. I went with the Pivot because of the customer service at Black Hills Bicycles. Thank you for this review, I was considering the Reval Rascal, but no authorized dealer where I live.
Nice, glad you got a chance to ride a few bikes... sure makes the decisions process easier.
Thanks for keep us east coasters entertained during lockdown.
All trails & parks closed NY - NJ.
eash, that's too bad. Good luck. We're praying for you!!
How about a comparison of the Switchblade vs Rail29? I love how you break down the attributes of each bike!
Thanks! I have an R29 coming this weekend!!!
Just ordered the '22 Ranger XX1 AXS for rippin' AK down country trails!
Just like you said: Rascal with 150mm fork. You can always dial head angle using an angle adjust headset. Time to switch it up from all the DW bikes you've ridden so far!
Bingo! I think you're exactly right. Just give me a change of scenery for a little bit. Nothing wrong with the new Ripmo V2 in fact I thought it was an incredible bike just want to switch things up a bit
can't imagine many people are buying bikes ,since half the darn country is darn near broke or going broke..
still love your vids , keep them coming
I just bought a new Ripmo. I had it saved from my last bike sale. I feel bad for the people that can't work right now. Hopefully this will pass soon 🙏😷
Bike shops need income too
Nice, Hoping I can demo that rascal this summer.
MC SwaggerFlagger So true dude , are we meant r
To just sit at home and cry , Hell no , e everyone needs to just keep living and staying positive
The bike market in Arizona is awesome and I just bought another bike to play around on.
Hey Jason, If you can get your hands on a Forbidden Druid I highly recommend you try one. Its a crazy capable trail bike with just the kind of geo you like. I've got about 250 miles on mine so far and absolutely loving it. Best bike I've owned, and I've had a few!
I'll check it out!
I just bought an Evil Offering based on Jason’s videos. It was a tie race between the the Ripmo, Hightower, and Offering. MTB Yum Yum’s vids served as the tie breaker.
Dude I'm sure you're lovin the Offering. I have 2018 and it has been the best bike I've owned. I've been shopping for a new rig and I'm looking at the Switchblade and a SB 140(for a real playful ride and I like 27.5)for a little more capable bike, little bit better at the park. But we'll see, the Evil is so good and punches way above its weight. Anyway I saw your comment and that you picked up the Offering so congrats I'm sure you'll love it for years.
Nice to see the Pivot and the new Revel. Seen some people really into them and considering most people are over-biked to begin with, 130mm rear travel seems to be the sweet spot.
However, I just picked up a Ripmo in December 2019. Its been a phenomenal trail bike. The only drawback so far is I've not taken the time to switch out the assegai rear tire for something more appropriate. Good luck with your choice.
Couldn't agree more!
Your trails are pretty smooth, and I have never seen you do any slow and steep rocky/rooty climbs. That may change your bike preferences, probably. You should do some videos on steep climbs with embedded rocks and lots of roots throw in..the slow tech climbing at 2-5 MPH. THAT is the real test of a climber.
Yeah, it would be nice to be able to stop and get more footage of the climbs.
Another great video man! I recently purchased a stumpy expert and love it. After watching your stumpy video, you had me considering one. The stumpjumper is super stiff, great climber and can bomb the downhill!
Another great comparison. Two great bikes! I would love to try a Rascal at some point.
Sam is such a nice rider to watch too.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks Bill.... the Rascal is exceptional and just feels different... probably similar descending as your Tallboy I would guess...
Propain Bikes is selling now in the USA, a review of the Hugene would be cool.
yeah, I need to check that out... I had one for review for a time but the weather never held up
Love the stoke in this video! Now, when will you be able to ride the new Evil Following? :)
thanks dude! Yeah, I need to get my hands on that bike for sure....
Good channel an informative reviews 👍🏼 I owned a few Canfield Brothers bikes (2x One‘s and 1 Jedi). The suspension on all Canfields was excellent. My last One (2013, 170/180mm) pedalled like an all-mountain and descended like hell. Just a superb suspension system 👍🏼
Nice, thats awesome. Yeah, I'm really enjoying the Rascal!!
The rascal is a awesome bike that rear end is so active. I think for the trails that you ride day today it is the perfect combination of bike for you. I went with the Santa Cruz Megatower as I want to learn to hit a little bigger loving it every day just need to find what fits you best.
Yeah, I've been really enjoying my time on these bikes!
I'm picking up a rascal frame tomorrow. I already have the fox 32 grip2, fox dropper,i9's, dpx2, G2 rsc, sram gx axs with X01 cranks.
I'm thinking I can't go wrong with all of these great reviews.
My other option was the Obis ripmo, But I really like the look of the rascal and I think the rascal will be a better fit on the Kc trails.
Thanks For the review
Man I've gotta see a switchblade vs sentinel comparison now! The sentinel is quite a bit different in the numbers though but it's a 160/140 travel bike. I've been riding it almost a year now and it's been my favorite 29er by far (comparing to Jekyll 29er, Habit 29er, Last gen Hightower, Last gen switchblade, trek fuel ex, stumpy) For the sentinel being as slack as it is, it climbs plenty well enough for me and absolutely kills the dh.
The Rail comes with the Lyric. Would be interesting to see what you feel is sacrificed by going to the longer travel 27.5". That's probably what I'd be making efforts to try if I hadn't already purchased a bike this year and had heard of Revel. They've just come on to my radar in the last week or so.
Yeah, I'm demoing the Rail this weekend!
MTB yumyum, awesome. Looking forward to the review.
Great video as usual Jason. I have the Rascal with a 150 pike and it just does it all so well. I’m down to one bike because of this. I put some SC reserve 30 and a dissector 2.4 front with a 2.3 minion SS rear. So good man!
RyanoMTB how are you liking the dissector as a front tire ?
johnny bravo love it.. rolls fast and great traction.. no complaints here 👊🤘
I still have my 140 Pike on my Rascal, but man I want to go 150 so badly. Might either go MRP or Lyrik at 150 and take out a spacer on top to try and counter the 10mm rise.
Chris Poli I also would like to test out with a 150 Lyrik just to see but this pike ultimate at 150 is pretty strong. It’d be interesting for sure!
RyanoMTB do you feel it messes with the STA and geometry at all?
Demoed both today on some big chunky trails, and the Switchblade felt more like a monster truck going through it whereas the Rascal was more fun to ride. The SB was a bit too firm for my taste, too. Both excellent bikes, though
Yeah, I agree... Rascal is so fun!
If it was between both stock bikes, I'd go with Pivot: that DW Link is just amazing for everyday riding and has components of my preference. If I built a bike, I'd definitely build up a Rascal: I favor short and nimble bikes for agility on the trail and in the air.
Tough choice between the 2. Do you still have the Ripley? If so, I'd have the Pivot as my climbing wrecking ball, and the Ibis is my nimble rocket ship.
Totally agree! I prefer the xtr offering on the sb but I'll likely build a Rascal and just enjoy something different and new to me... Yep, still have the Ripley for a bit longer although, I might be on the hunt for a short travel bike in the next few months. Hope to build the Rascal up a bit more burly for heavy trail use.
So the Revel if you can only have one bike and the Switchblade if you have a Ripley in the kitchen for the less gnarly trails.
That's wat I concluded as well. I only demoed the previous switchblade and found it good but just a bit too much of a bike for my trails.
Yeah, I think that could be a good way to look at it although, I could probably get by with the blade as my only bike... it climbs that well!!
@@mtbyumyum Pretty interesting that the Switchblade and Rascal both climb better than the Ripmo! I felt my old Ripmo v1 was a great climber for its category. So in terms of climbing prowess, would you say Ripley>Switchblade>Rascal>Ripmo?
Seems that as your wanting something different, the Switchblade is your jazz. Just because the Rascal is probably closer to the Ripley than the Switchblade and - the Pivot is a little more separated from the RIpley. Giving you a true two bike option. I actually think, not sure your thoughts, that the current Tallboy is closer to the Rascal, even though there is 10mm of travel difference. FYI, Revel is working on something 29er coming soon, long (er) travel? Will see... Hope to make the livestream Thursday. Great video Jason, you did a great job.
I've thought of doing a Switchblade comparison to my new RIpmo 2 and my 2020 Hightower. Well, an impressions video in my eyes. I get asked about these three all the time.
Yeah, I actually think I'm going to go with the Rascal. Just gives me something different and I had a lot of fun on that bike
@@mtbyumyum I thought you were going in that direction, I could tell it really ticked all the boxes for you. You like those smaller poppier bikes and in the video that came out pretty strong. Great choice... What color?
@@mtbyumyum You said you've been spending time on the Hightower too in this video. It's amazing to me how much popularity that bike has associated to it. Off the record, it's just not as lively as the Rascal or Ripmo (no experience on the blade yet).
@UCLaiHxGHnfYYZvYqc55l7BQ Do ride any really rocky or tight switchbacks? What size crank arms and do you run? Pedal strikes? Pedal strikes are a problem some of the places I ride. Also thinking about INTENSE Primer, Giant Advance pro 29, PIVOT Trail 429 and Switchblade.Not looking for a sluggish bike. A sprinty bike is nice:) I ride in the Midatlantic/ Virginia, WVa region. How about customer service and crash replacement? Quality control and overall quality? 6'1 165 pounds. Thank you.
It would be so cool to see you review the Revel Rail against the Switchblade 27.5
Better comparison is Rail vs Mach 6 .... And Switchblade is 27.5+
Take a look at the New 2020 YT Izzo, Looks awesome and great price.
Sorry cant make your Live Stream Thursday, Its the NFL Draft!!!!
Great review Jason, Are you going to try the Rascal with Lyric up front if you do i think that will be your next bike !!!! 👍😎
Yeah, I think you're right... the Rascal is crazy good everywhere and with a little encouragement up front I think this bike is ready for anything!!
@@mtbyumyum sorta reminds of a yeti sb130.. I see traits of it in the rascal.
I just found this, still have to watch it but seems odd you didn't include the new Ripmo and make it a *Ménage à trois*
I had a couple of full suspension bikes. But always fine myself riding my xtr hardtail more. Climbing ability is just on a different level. Then a full suspension bike.
I chose switchblade, mine arrives soon!
congrats!
I've had mine for almost two months now and absolutely love it! Previously had an Ibis Mojo HD4 and the switchblade wins out in overall performance.
J B hello i am 5 8 tall and i don’t know wich size take M or L? Wich size do you have ? Thanks
How do you like your new switch?
Michael M I’m liking it a lot. Came from an evil following and I think it climbs better. It’s been real easy to dial in and just feels exactly like it should. Seems to really be poppy, playful, and fast too.
I wish they would make reasonably priced versions of these in aluminum.
Yeah, that would be really nice. Whenever someone asked me what bike to get under $3,000 I almost always Point them towards a giant trance because it's such a good value I wish you could pick up a Ripley aluminum version or this Rascal aluminum version at a similar price point as a trance
Devinci Troy Aluminum
Great video as always man ! Think I would personally go with the Switchblade if I were in the market for one of these.
Thanks dude!
MTB Duffy I went with the Switchblade and love it
David Knight cool ! What colour ? How’s the green in person ?
MTB Duffy I saw the green at the Sedona bike festival. Was nice but went with the blue. The green is pretty well sold out at this point.
David Knight interesting., good to know. Thanks !
Thanks for a great comparison! My local dealer has a demo Rascal and I plan to take it out once the virus allows. I would also like to know the weights of both bikes.
the Switchblade was 30.14oz the rascal was 30.2oz
How about the SB130LR?? Seems like a no-brainer as you say it climbs better than most and would then be more stout in the descents..... Wonder why you never talk about it?
Yeah, I need to get out on that bike. I rode the original sb130 but I've heard the lunch ride gives it that extra little spice that it needs
Did Rascal give you same confidence that you were talking about when you ride Ripmo V1? You said it makes you feel like a better rider. My riding skills not that high and was wandering if one of the bikes give you better confidence then other. Thx
Absolutely. The Revel Rascal is a bike that would give you more confidence on the downhill compared to other bikes that it climbs just as well as. I'm really stoked on Revel right now and think they make incredible bikes! I'm personally building up a revel Rascal right now for my personal use. Very excited!
I don't think I've seen you do a La Sal Peak video before, with Fezarri being localish for you might be cool to try. Also happened to be the bike I bought last year instead of a Rascal.
I have a Rascal. I really like it but have had some pvot noise issues. I would also like to see a steeper seattube and longer toptube. Otherwise, a great bike.
Steeper sta would be very nice!
Was shopping for a Rascal last year. Ended up finding a great deal on a V1 Ripmo. My issue with the Ripmo is the 145 mm travel feels less than it is. Unfortunately I missed my local Revel demo but it seems like my old Sentinel - rear feels more than it is. The Ripmo rear suspension in my local Santa Barbara trails is outgunned here. Definitely a a compromise with all these suspension platforms. I think there's a perfect bike for your trails, but there's no perfect bike.
Well said. They're perfect bikes for specific Trails but no perfect one bike for everything. Everything tends to be a bit of a compromise and I think that this Rascal for me and the trails I tried most offers be the least amount of compromises in 1 bike🤘🤙
@@mtbyumyum like your said, it's why demo'ing a lot of bikes at your local trails is key! At this rate I might end up with a Specialized Enduro...YIKES.
I'm starting to do some super chunky descents but still working on fitness for the long steep climbs we have here. Compromises!
So, 6 months later, the Rascal vs the Spur? Now there's a cool A/B comparison
interesting idea. The Spur doesn't hang with the Rascal on the down hills at all.... just different category..
@@mtbyumyum How about the Revel Ranger? Have you reviewed that yet? That might be more fair.
And 👍 on more riding in your reviews, that's a lot of what kept me coming back for more
I'd love to see a Knolly reviewed sometime.
Bike Mag had some really good things to say about the new Fugitive. I wonder what YumYum would think about it
@@gabrielfernandez4897 Sorry man but I wouldn't ride one just because it's the ugliest thing I've seen since I placed 3 mirrors just right and could view my own arse.
Nice review man!
Nice comparison. Have you ever ridden a high pivot system like the forbidden bikes ? I am still waiting for your suspension comparison on short travel (on the back) 29ers like the Forbidden Druide vs switchblade Vs process134. ;) Just for reminding you of that idea. Thanks again for that video. I would love to ride your hometrail once. Maybe I can go to America next year. Best regards
Hmm really better the the SB130 and Ripmo? Not saying it can't be done but they lead the pack with the Pivot. The SJ 130 is more tail bike like the 429 IMO.
Best reviews ever! Please test the new yt izzo.
Thank you!!
Would you sell your Ripley for the Rascal of just add the Rascal as a second bike? OR If you had to choose The Ripley or the Rascal, which would you choose? I'd like to see you demo Evil the following!
Yeah, hard to say. No plan to sell the Ripley just yet... the Rascal doesn't have that same rocket ship get up and go to it that the Ripley has.... although, almost nothing out there that can descent worth a damn does... The Ripley is a special bike for sure but it cant hang with the Rascal or Switchblade on the descents...
Could the Ripley hang with the Rascal with a 140 mm fork or 140 mm air spring in the 130 mm fork? (Throw some tokens front and rear also?). Thank you for your response and your time.
Hey love your reviews and channel. Wondering if you could do a Fezzari La Sal Peak Review, I am very interested on how it compares to the other longer travel 29ers in its category.
What happened to the Ripmo v2? In the recent Ripmo vs Switchblade it seemed you were likeing the Ripmo V2 a bit more than the Switchblade. Something happen?
Nothing has changed... the Ripmo V2 isn't in the conversation for me... I've owned the previous Ripmo and I'm looking for something different. Still an excellent bike!
I would not buy a Ripmo if I owned a Ripley. Honesty if I owned a Ripley I would just get a down hill bike for park days and call it done.
Switchblade better than SB130? You said best climbing long travel 29er....
SB130 wasn't in the conversation for me although it's been awhile, maybe I need to give it a second look...
great video! how about a Fezzari Signal Peak and LaSal Peark review? keep up the good work
I’d live to see a comparison to the transition smuggler or the even the sentinel
I second that, a Transition review please MTM YUM YUM...please?
@@JS-xn3dq love my sentinel. def good for decending. Wish it came with more engaging rear hub though.
Tim Eyre thanks! I am looking for a good all around mtb and the sentinel seems more like an enduro bike. Is that accurate?
@@JS-xn3dq Ya I would say it is. If you want something with a little more pop maybe look at the transition scout. Over all though my sentinel is really fast rolling and fun. I have taken it on some pretty good climbs and it has done just fine as well.
Since you review a lot of short travel stuff, I'd be curious to see how a marin rift zone compares to some of the other bikes you've reviewed. They make carbon models for $3600 and $4400 depending on build.
Ok, but that lends to the question: Ripmo vs. Switchblade??
been there, done that!! Posted that video a few weeks ago... what do you think?? Would you put the Rascal in the mix?
Too many edits, I'm just going to repost:
OK, let's see...
Ripley (120mm) *1st* for rapid turning & acceleration
Rascal (130mm) *2nd*
Pivot SB (142mm) *3rd*
- Makes sense, less rear travel = less power absorption, faster acceleration & direction change.
Pivot SB (142mm) *1st* in descending
Rascal (130mm) *2nd*
Ripley (120mm) *3rd*
- Makes sense, more rear travel = better gnarr absorption.
Pivot Switchblade *1st in climbing???* Should be *last* because of both longer fork and rear shock travel equaling more wasted energy in pedaling, but *no??* - Then Pivot *wins* overall?
Put a 150mm on the Rascal and you'll probably *lose* some of that Ripley-esc snappy feeling but would probably close the gap between it and the Pivot SB in the Gnarr & at speed.
*- But if you already have a Ripley, why try to duplicate it?* Why even have a 2nd bike unless you *need something other* for maybe more dedicated Downhill shuttle rides, or mega-gnarr all-day rides?
Yeti SB-150? - How would the 2020 Pivot SB do against *that* Enduro monster on shuttle rides & mega-gnarr downhills?
So I now have a Ripley V4 XT with I9 Hydra and Ibis carbon rims (you certainly played a part in that) and I'm 175 lbs. I need to tune the shock and probably replace the spacer to make it less "bucky" on longer rocky/rooty climbs. The Ripley is a great bike so I sold my Yeti 4.5. Now I am looking for a second bike with more travel and I do not do parks and pump tracks or DH days. I want a good technical climber on the slow stuff...all the good ones like the Switchblade, Hightower, Offering, and even the Rascal, will descend well. I just want a good technical climber and a more plush descender than the Ripley, and one I can also take on all-day rides. What do you think?
I would love to see a review on the Eminent bikes
Switchblade is a nice design but I'd have to get one custom painted to tolerate owning it!
Another great vid...interesting to hear your thoughts if you throw a sb130 in the mix with the 2...
Yum yum, great review. I’m on the new switchblade, since April and considering switching it up for the rascal. How did you like it with the 150 Lyrik?
Thanks, I have been enjoying your reviews. Have you reviewed a Transition Smuggler?
You bet! No, but I've had a number of requests for the smuggler... maybe I need to track one down...
Why are these bikes so EXPENSIVE considering the people that make these bikes are paid next to nothing, in foreign countries? Why are they not made in the USA at these astronomical prices?
good question... bike prices are bonkers
Wish the Rascal was a better climber. I was ready to pull the trigger on it but after a 2 day demo, I was not a fan of the way it climbed. I put it well behind quite a few similar travel bikes that I have ridden. (SB130, Ripmo, Offering) Loved everything else about the bike though!
THE OFFERING!?!?!?!?! I get the Rascal is no Ripley but the Offering bro... no way. Rascal climbs better than the Offering or Santa Cruz Hightower all day... and I can understand how those are good comps but the sb130... sure it climbs better than the Rascal but the sb130 descends chunk like complete garbage my dude!! In fact, the Ripley just might out perform the sb130 descending. Sorry, rant over ;)
MTB yumyum I’m not the only one with that opinion. Read most of the other reviews on the Rascal and they say the same thing, not the best climber. For a 130mm trail bike, I guess I just expected it to climb well. I agree with most of your other reviews, but can’t disagree more on this one. Good thing there are a lot of bikes to choose from. Find the one that works for you.
When you say it is a better climber are you saying it is better at climbing steep technical terrain or are you referring to the bikes pedaling efficiency?
Don’t forget the Niner Rip9 in with these bikes :)
I would love to hear your thoughts on the Switchblade vs SB150. I was super excited to get on a Switchblade and spin it around the neighborhood. However my shop had a leftover 19' SB150 T2 build ($5200). I know the 150 is a stout tank and isn't suited as a trail bike, but I'm 6'4" 260(w/kit) and the 150 just felt like it supported me. I took it out yesterday and did about 3000 total vert and about 20 miles of smooooth single track. I defiantly could tell that it was a lot easier to move around the faster I went. Did you feel the same way on the Switchblade? I think the 150 climbs pretty well for its size and better than my old SB5.5. I saw your review of of the 150. In your opinion, does the Switchblade have a considerable advantage over the 150 when climbing? If so, would it convince you to take the Switchblade over the 150 if you only had one bike?
Yes, I would for sure take the switchblade over the sb150 as my only bike. That said, the sb150 has probably given me more fun than any other bike I've ever ridden. It's insanely fun at high speeds. So stable offer so much confidence it's incredible. Just the trails I ride most the time don't operate at that high of a speed so the switch play with pride be more fun on my everyday trials. Also, the switchblade out climbs the sb150. That said, congratulations on the new bike. I would love to own an sb150!
Thanks for your input. My 3rd option was the 2020 Jeffsy Pro Race. They offer a military discount on top of that low price!
Try the specialized enduro
Not in the same class
Are you going to review the latest E Mountain Bikes? They are gaining credibility
Yes, this is absolutely on my list. I want to start riding more e-bikes for sure!
A bit surprised that you never mentioned the Yeti SB130 when comparing "how a bike climbs". Or is that in a different less aggressive category?
Yeah, the problem is the sb130 didn't descent well so I didn't mention it because I just don't feel like it can hang with the Hightower, Offering, Ripmo, Switchblade, Stumpjumper and the like.... the 130 really didn't descent any better than the Ripley in my opinion. Its an excellent climbing bike but left me wanting giving the travel numbers and weight of the bike.... its more in the Ripley, Trail 429, Instinct category to me...
What about the Lunch Ride 130?
Great comparison and video, thanks. Thinking of a a 2021 Large Rascal build do you think a 2021 Fox Float 36 Factory GRIP2 at 160mm would be too much travel?
Great review! And yeti Lt 130,130LR and hightower?
Will be rascal 150mm in 2021? Will be great news
Coming for an 160-150 enduro bike, looking something, light! Around 30lbs ,better on climbing, and with similar Xc feeling on flats but best downhill performance possible in rought terrain for this mid travel bikes asumming i will lose at least 10% of performance
Suggestions?
Great comparison. Will you be giving the new Giant Reign 29 a try?
Did the Rascal build have their fusion fiber wheels? Curious to hear comparisons of that wheel set and whether it’s worth the X01 build price premium.
No, it did not have the new Revel Wheels. My Demo bike I had for the last two weeks had I9 Wheels
Would you say the Rascal comes to life/is more playful than the Switchblade at lower speeds??
Yeah, maybe. It's been awhile since I last rode either of those bikes. Honestly, I think the Ibis Ripmo is on par with the Rascal and more playful than the Switchblade even though it has a little more travel. In fact, I just got back on a Ripmo and loving it! Call Chris at Salt Cycles tomorrow and see what sort of deal he can get you.... I know he still has a bunch in stock and can likely get you 15-25% off. Chris: 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyum you really spun that one, my guy.
Love the channel. Are you able to test the occam m10 or higher spec
I know you got the Rascal but any thoughts on the Alchemy Arktos or Arktos ST? Lots of good reviews, good spec on suspension. Very similar geo except for taller stand over and stack, and shorter wheelbase.
You think the switchblade climbs better than the ripmo? I could have swore you said the ripmo climbed better.
Hi Jason, I'm trying to decide between a Ripley and a Rascal. I'm 5'5 with longer torso than legs. I want to improve my climbing speed, as I am slower than all my friends to the top, however, I still want to be comfortable going down chunk. Which bike do you think is the better climber, and which would be better to have fun in all day, like on the Whole Enchilada?
Really trying to decide between the rascal and the sb130 (maybe LR)
maybe the easiest decission of my life.... Rascal > sb130 8 days a week!! Seriously!!
MTB yumyum even with a 137mm rear end On the 130LR? I’m in the same boat as Tyler here and also considering Ripmo. 🤙
@Tyler Head The 130 in LR mode is nothing to scoff at. Its hard to argue with Switch infinity.. Most of the enduro competitors from my main lbs use the LR in events over the sb 150 even given its climbing capabilities but not giving a ton up to the 150 on decents... One rider i know just tossed the new fox 38 on his LR.. Haven't got a ride report on that yet tho..
How workable do you think the Rascal would be on the newer crop of all day and multi-day gnarly races like marji gesick or BC bike race? After reading about Liz Sampey and the Rascal that won the women's AZT750 this past year I'd love to demo one. I'm on the hunt for the 'one bike' that can do ok on the east coast gnar I ride, and do ok on all day epics.
Honestly, this Rascal is in the conversation for best do everything bike available in my opinion.... more time will tell but my Ripley cant hang with the Rascal on the downs and they're equally as good everywhere besides climbing... just comes down to what you value more... I would like to test the Tallboy and Rascal back to back...
just curious why did you not end up buying the Blade? sounds like it climbs and descends better than the Rascal.
So on ths Ripmo V2 vs Switchblade video you said you preferred the V2. Why decide between the Rascal and Switchblade for your 2nd bike?
I already owned the Ripmo last year and the new bikes really isnt that different... I'm looking for a different new experience!!
@@mtbyumyum👍 now it makes sense
Ok important question!!! Can you fit a 24 oz water bottle on the Rascal?