Raidou 2 is one of the few times in a Megaten games where I actually tried to stick with as many "Canon Team" demons used by its respective MC as possible. It all started with just keeping the Moh Shuvuu that you get if you do a save file carry over from Raidou 1 as a bit of a joke... I ended up bringing her and plenty of other Raidou's demon team to as many boss fights as possible!
@@Lemonberrys I still went ahead with using Moh in battles, as I like to imagine dialogue between bosses wandering why is Raidou still sticking with such a early-game demon. And being surprised at how she actually manages to pull her own weight. For example... VS Black Mask Fukoshi Black Mask Fukoshi: "This kid is still using one of those weak-ass bird girls... What a pushover!" Moh: "You mess with Jouhei... And you mess with ME! Failure of an assassin!" (For context, I have the headcanon that Moh calls Raidou exclusively by his real name. Jouhei.)
@@kuraux56s59 awww that's cute headcanon ! I think low level demon challenge seems great buy I'm too lazy to do it because some boss just have time limit
@@Lemonberrys Heh, even with a few of the Time Limit bosses. I still had Moh help with a few of them. As soon as I could get the Mitamas. I powered her up. After all, in the Chronicles version of Nocturne. She has Dekunda. A skill she doesnt learn normally!
Raidou series can actually become Atlus’ Yakuza if they wanted to. Seriously, such a missed potential. Not to mention the classic Japan setting is pretty interesting as well. Man, first time playing Raidou 2 I was so awestruck whenever running through the city with bustling with so many people. Imagine that with the recent technology
for me, Jack Bros is extremely underrated. People often says memes about this game and i think they really need to play for themselves, it's a very fun game with challenging gameplay
@@pablohenrique3442 yeah I want to play the game but seeing how much it costs I'm just wishing that Atlus can rerelease it on the Switch since it was on a nintendo console
@@pablohenrique3442 yeah but seeing as most people like to have copies of the game they won't emulate it although I'll probably emulate it cause yeah the price for both is ridiculous
Honestly it's great to see p4d especially get some attention. It feels like it's always been forgotten about due to how little 3 & 5d did to keep up with it.
It's been a while, but I remember liking Raidou vs King Abaddon more than the first, but there was a late game dungeon that just seemed to drag. Now that I think of it, that is kind of a SMT series staple. That one dungeon that makes you cringe on every replay, knowing it's coming up......
That's how I feel about DDS lmao. Sure, everyone knows about Raidou, but barely anyone has played Devil Summoner 3 and even less have played Devil Summoner 4
This reminds me... On the Metaten subreddit, there was recently a guy that actually bothered to translate Ronde's story! ...And I was rather disappointed to find out that the story turned out to be okay-ish at best.
Hey Tony, why the hate for Maken Shao Demon Sword? I've had it sitting on my shelf since about a month after it was released those 2 decades ago. I personally put it up there with the more obscure "hack n' slashes" of the PS2 era, along with Chaos Legion and The Bouncer. And the more known ones such as Godhand, DMC, Onimusha etc. I think it's fiercely underrated and I praise anyone who has even heard of it, let alone played it! Much love, Guy who begged for the Cu Chulainn video for 5 months.
I've never played a Persona game, so I decided to check out a let's play of Persona 5: Royal and boy howdy was I beyond surprised to see that a triple-A game would rip it's intro off from you
I must concur with P4D and that its sequels by contrast were disappointing cash grabs. (which is a shame as Moonlight implies a heartwarming plot where Elisabeth finally frees Makoto from being a door)
I prefered persona 3 dancing, but only becasue i know the story of persona 3 quite well. Since it takes place right near the end of persona 3 it has a bigger impact and Elizabeth being Elizabeth is always fun. Especially teasing when she admits to watching everyone to recreate their rooms and says there sound proof saying they can bang all they want. Yukari gets flustered and Elizabeth pretends to be confused saying doesn't banging mean dancing? you can dance in your rooms and you won't be heard. Elizabeth trolling is always fun.
Hey Tony, is there any chance you could list games that you'd recommend to play, or ones with particularly good stories in the series? Cause honestly there's SO many SMT spinoff games it's hard to start.
Maken X soundtrack and gameplay is god tier. It is so sad this game was only released on Sega Dreamcast, and remake Maken Shao on PS2 sucks ... And Maken X predicted a future - game was developed by Atlus, but published by ... Sega :)
It's honestly kind of sad that, at least in p5d, you have to grind free play mode to unlock little drops of the story instead of there just being a more proper feeling progression
Awww come on, Tony. The other Dancing games are great (at the very least P3D is worth it for the “social links” you can do with the male party members who you couldn’t just hangout with in P3FES). Choosing “Junpei is my best friend” as Makoto put the biggest smile on my face lol
The only thing thats criminally underrated is your youtube channel Tony. But dont worry keep up the grind and im sure in two years we can put two more zero's behind the subcount😉🤗
One I can recommend is Kyuuyaku megami tensei 2, unlike smt 1 and 2, it isn't that long and the backtracking isn't the worst. Combat is a bit downgraded from those two, but the atmosphere, the music and graphics are definietly worth checking out. Also it has the first Y.H.V.H fight which is pretty cool.
Damn and I was gonna play the PS2 version instead of the dreamcast of maken after finishing soul hackers 1. Though I'm curious, what exactly are the issues with maken shao compared to X?
Better play Raidou 1 first, then Raidou 2 from simple reason - Raidou 2 have MUCH BETTER COMBAT than Raidou 1, it would be hard to go back from Raidou 2 to Raidou 1.
I have to say that for P4D I was very much surprised it was in the list lol personally I get from a prior video I watched why the story would be considered good but honestly I've never been a huge fan just because of the ridiculousness of them learning to dance like professionals in a week and being a rehash of P4. Last time I replayed it when it released on PS4 I skipped the entire story since I already did it on the Vita. I will say that the music is amazing and some of my favorite remixes are from the game (Backside of the TV from Lotus Juice anyone?). I will def agree that the P3 and P5 ones though were pretty mediocre and were disappointing. On another note though I do love the Raidou games on PS2; should give them a replay!
Maken Shao is a remake of Maken X, with 3rd person camera (instead of first person camera in Maken X) which in my opinion ruins awesome gameplay from Dreamcast version, worse controlls, worse graphic, worse looking cutscenes, glitches. It is just like 90% PS2 games ported from Dreamcast.
Okay Mr You. Who is going to jail for these crimes? 🧐 Real question here. Can I play raidou 2 w/o the first one? I hear that raido 2 is just the better experience. And I'm not sure I can handle pulling a dds again
You can. Unlike Digital Devil Saga 2 which was basicly the second half of the game chopped off and sold to you seperatly, Raidou 2 is a stand alone experiance. The returning characters have very little background (even Raidou himself is kinda flat) and their relationships aren't very nuanced. While Raidou 1 is a good game, Raidou 2 is the more refined experiance.
I played p4d and its good game, ok smt game and great rythm game, I know about raidou 2 and I player the first game and I really liked it, I plan to buy second at end of this month (on ps3) with P2EP, yeah this game is on american ps store on ps3, I was shocked too, about maken Im still not shure, but probably I will download rom, I mean buy phisical copy with dreamcast heh, when there will be no game to play for me, most likely march/april, oh and I knew about all of those games before this video but its still nite to see someone talking about them, But ofcourse most underreated smt games are DDS duology, I want HD remake of those games so bad
I've only known about Raidou Kuzunoha XIV for a day and a half but if anything happened to him I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself- I really wanna try to play those games sometime, they seem neat ☺️
First game wasn’t even an smt game or was a hack and slash no having 3 alignments does not make an smt game it doesn’t have the action of radiou at all nor any rpg elements in the slightest and nor does it have any story similar to smt. Heck it barely if at all uses the same monsters. game 2 is an actual smt game Game 3 is a spin off dancing game
Raidou 2 is a really great game , it's not too complicated & has a great story ! I also love how it can be a serious main story but the side quest sometime just straight up funny as heck.. funny how I love Raidou 2 soo much yet hate the first game P4D, suprisingly for a dancing game it has a really great story ! Even if it's just like a side game and I like how they stull manage to keep this side game has a mystery genre (?) too bad The P3&P5 dancing game luke for the sake of milking / for fans want a dancing game without a deep story like P4
Digital devil saga was a good contender for this list, I'd argue less people know who "serph" or "sera" is when compared to "raidou" But maken X is 100% probably the least known game in the series, arguably not even part of smt, raidou 2 is also not known well...
In the first game the few games that have that combat do not seem to work with any controllers that they have existed in. Maybe in something like a VR game it would work, but ... Have not played it though. I did like the Raidou games for the story, but I am not a fan of the combat, it seemed slow when it came out and by today's standards it is a joke. Just going to say I generally am not a Persona fan and dancing even less. Basically like the darker sides of SMT. I think the whole Persona series is over rated.
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Raidou 2 is one of the few times in a Megaten games where I actually tried to stick with as many "Canon Team" demons used by its respective MC as possible.
It all started with just keeping the Moh Shuvuu that you get if you do a save file carry over from Raidou 1 as a bit of a joke... I ended up bringing her and plenty of other Raidou's demon team to as many boss fights as possible!
I keep Moh Shuuvu too, I didn't use her for battle but more for finders keepers & teleport wind skill, she's just too cute
@@Lemonberrys I still went ahead with using Moh in battles, as I like to imagine dialogue between bosses wandering why is Raidou still sticking with such a early-game demon. And being surprised at how she actually manages to pull her own weight. For example...
VS Black Mask Fukoshi
Black Mask Fukoshi: "This kid is still using one of those weak-ass bird girls... What a pushover!"
Moh: "You mess with Jouhei... And you mess with ME! Failure of an assassin!"
(For context, I have the headcanon that Moh calls Raidou exclusively by his real name. Jouhei.)
@@kuraux56s59 awww that's cute headcanon ! I think low level demon challenge seems great buy I'm too lazy to do it because some boss just have time limit
@@Lemonberrys Heh, even with a few of the Time Limit bosses. I still had Moh help with a few of them.
As soon as I could get the Mitamas. I powered her up. After all, in the Chronicles version of Nocturne. She has Dekunda. A skill she doesnt learn normally!
Raidou series can actually become Atlus’ Yakuza if they wanted to. Seriously, such a missed potential. Not to mention the classic Japan setting is pretty interesting as well.
Man, first time playing Raidou 2 I was so awestruck whenever running through the city with bustling with so many people. Imagine that with the recent technology
Don't get my hopes up for a Yakuza-esque Raidou game, that sounds so good it hurts lol
Here's to hoping Soul Hackers 2 will generate enough interest for another Raidou game
for me, Jack Bros is extremely underrated. People often says memes about this game and i think they really need to play for themselves, it's a very fun game with challenging gameplay
I don't think its underrated it's just too expensive to get a hold of so that's why lots of people don't play the game
@@angelmorales2381 yeah, this makes sense..
@@pablohenrique3442 yeah I want to play the game but seeing how much it costs I'm just wishing that Atlus can rerelease it on the Switch since it was on a nintendo console
i don't think that Atlus will port this game...well, i played on an emulator because no f way that i would buy a copy of this AND a virtual boy
@@pablohenrique3442 yeah but seeing as most people like to have copies of the game they won't emulate it although I'll probably emulate it cause yeah the price for both is ridiculous
Oh and of course, devil survivor 2 is always underappreciated, literally what the fire emblem and smt crossover should have been.
Tokyo Mirage Session was a mistake.
@@tomo8940 honestly
Good to see Raidou 2 get some love. I had a blast going through both games! Easily my favorite spinoff series, in addition to Devil Survivor :)
Pray we see the raidou games make a return at some point, either as remasters or even a new game/remake
Raidou games are amazing, ngl all ps2 smt games are god tier I wish the newer games had that charm
I agree, except Persona 3 and 4
Honestly it's great to see p4d especially get some attention. It feels like it's always been forgotten about due to how little 3 & 5d did to keep up with it.
Raidou 2 has got to have the best chaos rep out there
You're my new favorite channel, keep it up my man!
Thanks so much! I always love getting comments like these
synchronicity prologue is very underrated, its really good for a free game
For sure, if you know where to get it and the English patch, it's well worth a short playthrough
The Raidou games need a remake, cuz that game was amazing and the gameplay was kind of cool tbh.
I would love to see this. Here's hoping Atlus sees Soul Hackers 2 success and goes back to devil summoner
@@Tony4You Agree, kind of dissapointed they are not putting it on switch, maybe a port later down the road, but i hope it succeeds.
I'd love a full Raidou 1 and 2 video of you have any interest in talking In depth about them!
That's the dream one day
I really hope the Raidou games get a remaster after Soul Hackers 2 comes out
I agree
All the ps2 games honestly
In the good timeline this will happen
Raidou 2 is my fave PS2 games. I missed my first day of college cuz of this. Hahaha
Well worth it lol
Thank you for this list, I have never played any of these. I am aware of the Dancing and Raidou games but havent played them yet.
Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 are my favorite PS2 Megaten games.
Nocturne is mine
It's great to finally see Raidou 2 in the underrated list 👍
It's been a while, but I remember liking Raidou vs King Abaddon more than the first, but there was a late game dungeon that just seemed to drag. Now that I think of it, that is kind of a SMT series staple. That one dungeon that makes you cringe on every replay, knowing it's coming up......
Great summoners hall dragged due to the floor puzzles
@@sociallyawkard5675 yeah, I honestly don't like those sort of puzzles in RPGs. Breaks up the flow and slows stuff down.
Yeah, the Raidou games are underrated, especially the second one, much better then the first.
Shame many people don't get around to it since it's so great
Amazing video tony
Hey thanks a lot!
great selection
I must be getting old cause the Raidou games never stuck me as underrated SMT
That's how I feel about DDS lmao. Sure, everyone knows about Raidou, but barely anyone has played Devil Summoner 3 and even less have played Devil Summoner 4
Damn maken looks cool as hell
It is cool as hell! Check it out, it's worth it!
Ronde. No debate🗿
This reminds me... On the Metaten subreddit, there was recently a guy that actually bothered to translate Ronde's story!
...And I was rather disappointed to find out that the story turned out to be okay-ish at best.
I wish I had the guts to put it on for real
Hey Tony, why the hate for Maken Shao Demon Sword? I've had it sitting on my shelf since about a month after it was released those 2 decades ago.
I personally put it up there with the more obscure "hack n' slashes" of the PS2 era, along with Chaos Legion and The Bouncer. And the more known ones such as Godhand, DMC, Onimusha etc.
I think it's fiercely underrated and I praise anyone who has even heard of it, let alone played it!
Much love,
Guy who begged for the Cu Chulainn video for 5 months.
I hope we get "tony for presidency 20XX " intro in the future lol
The most under rated SMT game is probably Persona 5 tbqhfam.
I'd never even heard of Maken X
I've never played a Persona game, so I decided to check out a let's play of Persona 5: Royal and boy howdy was I beyond surprised to see that a triple-A game would rip it's intro off from you
I must concur with P4D and that its sequels by contrast were disappointing cash grabs. (which is a shame as Moonlight implies a heartwarming plot where Elisabeth finally frees Makoto from being a door)
Raidou 2 is very underrated and very fun game people please don’t sleep on it 😄
True!
I prefered persona 3 dancing, but only becasue i know the story of persona 3 quite well. Since it takes place right near the end of persona 3 it has a bigger impact and Elizabeth being Elizabeth is always fun. Especially teasing when she admits to watching everyone to recreate their rooms and says there sound proof saying they can bang all they want. Yukari gets flustered and Elizabeth pretends to be confused saying doesn't banging mean dancing? you can dance in your rooms and you won't be heard.
Elizabeth trolling is always fun.
Yeah P3D was better than P4D.
@@number090684 Really!?
Hey Tony, is there any chance you could list games that you'd recommend to play, or ones with particularly good stories in the series? Cause honestly there's SO many SMT spinoff games it's hard to start.
That could make an interesting list, I'll add it to the idea folder
Maken X soundtrack and gameplay is god tier. It is so sad this game was only released on Sega Dreamcast, and remake Maken Shao on PS2 sucks ... And Maken X predicted a future - game was developed by Atlus, but published by ... Sega :)
We need more games like Maken for sure
Devil Summoner and my dude Raidou are the shit
The first time I came in contact with persona dance games was in PSO2 I want to say. Or at least the choreography. It's definitely mesmerizing.
Tony is the True Messiah!
It's honestly kind of sad that, at least in p5d, you have to grind free play mode to unlock little drops of the story instead of there just being a more proper feeling progression
Persona 4 D.A.N was fucking weird and I was NOT expecting what happened to the idol
Persona 4 dancing is amazing and I love it’s story
A fellow P4D enjoyer! Good stuff man
Maken gaming
Yes she'd light on these great titles! Hidden gems have to become revealed
I totally agree With Raidou I liked the game.
I can’t wait to play as the president of the united states in persona 6
Awww come on, Tony. The other Dancing games are great (at the very least P3D is worth it for the “social links” you can do with the male party members who you couldn’t just hangout with in P3FES).
Choosing “Junpei is my best friend” as Makoto put the biggest smile on my face lol
I actually don't think they're bad unlike a lot of other people, just significantly less love put into them
The only thing thats criminally underrated is your youtube channel Tony. But dont worry keep up the grind and im sure in two years we can put two more zero's behind the subcount😉🤗
Thanks man, means a lot to get comments like these
One I can recommend is Kyuuyaku megami tensei 2, unlike smt 1 and 2, it isn't that long and the backtracking isn't the worst. Combat is a bit downgraded from those two, but the atmosphere, the music and graphics are definietly worth checking out. Also it has the first Y.H.V.H fight which is pretty cool.
Damn and I was gonna play the PS2 version instead of the dreamcast of maken after finishing soul hackers 1. Though I'm curious, what exactly are the issues with maken shao compared to X?
Shao is third persona and controls very differently (and plays worse), while Maken is first person, controls buttery smooth and runs like a dream
I think personally that Persona 5 is the most underrated SMT game.
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YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH RAIDOU 2 BAYBEEEEE LET'S GOOOOOOOO
I just played thru Maken X last week for the first time and it's become one of my top favorite Atlus games
Now I want to play maken X so bad
Q hayashida mangka of dorohedoro and dai dark. Did two series based on maken x.
If I want to play the Raidou games do I have to play it in order or does the order not matter?
Same question.
Better play Raidou 1 first, then Raidou 2 from simple reason - Raidou 2 have MUCH BETTER COMBAT than Raidou 1, it would be hard to go back from Raidou 2 to Raidou 1.
Storywise, you do not need to have played Raidou 1 to enjoy Raidou 2
They should be played in order
Based Tony
My fans all have good opinions lol
You mean most of the series is underrated.
Majin tensei
I have to say that for P4D I was very much surprised it was in the list lol personally I get from a prior video I watched why the story would be considered good but honestly I've never been a huge fan just because of the ridiculousness of them learning to dance like professionals in a week and being a rehash of P4. Last time I replayed it when it released on PS4 I skipped the entire story since I already did it on the Vita. I will say that the music is amazing and some of my favorite remixes are from the game (Backside of the TV from Lotus Juice anyone?). I will def agree that the P3 and P5 ones though were pretty mediocre and were disappointing. On another note though I do love the Raidou games on PS2; should give them a replay!
But have you played eramegaten?
Am I strange for preferring the scratch button on the stick rather than L1/R1 please tell me this isn't just me
Do whatever suits you
Is maken shao worse than maken x? I only have a ps2 and no Dreamcast xd
Maken Shao is a remake of Maken X, with 3rd person camera (instead of first person camera in Maken X) which in my opinion ruins awesome gameplay from Dreamcast version, worse controlls, worse graphic, worse looking cutscenes, glitches. It is just like 90% PS2 games ported from Dreamcast.
Okay Mr You. Who is going to jail for these crimes? 🧐
Real question here. Can I play raidou 2 w/o the first one? I hear that raido 2 is just the better experience. And I'm not sure I can handle pulling a dds again
You can. Unlike Digital Devil Saga 2 which was basicly the second half of the game chopped off and sold to you seperatly, Raidou 2 is a stand alone experiance. The returning characters have very little background (even Raidou himself is kinda flat) and their relationships aren't very nuanced. While Raidou 1 is a good game, Raidou 2 is the more refined experiance.
@@jeezycreezy4220 thanks for the thorough answer! 💪✌️
@@godonomas of course! Hope you enjoy the game!
I would play the first one as the second is a direct continuation though the mechanics are a bit rougher
How could you not talk about jack bros
What about dx2?
I played p4d and its good game, ok smt game and great rythm game, I know about raidou 2 and I player the first game and I really liked it, I plan to buy second at end of this month (on ps3) with P2EP, yeah this game is on american ps store on ps3, I was shocked too, about maken Im still not shure, but probably I will download rom, I mean buy phisical copy with dreamcast heh, when there will be no game to play for me, most likely march/april, oh and I knew about all of those games before this video but its still nite to see someone talking about them, But ofcourse most underreated smt games are DDS duology, I want HD remake of those games so bad
I've only known about Raidou Kuzunoha XIV for a day and a half but if anything happened to him I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself-
I really wanna try to play those games sometime, they seem neat ☺️
Here's hoping Atlus gives us a good way to play it
First game wasn’t even an smt game or was a hack and slash no having 3 alignments does not make an smt game it doesn’t have the action of radiou at all nor any rpg elements in the slightest and nor does it have any story similar to smt. Heck it barely if at all uses the same monsters.
game 2 is an actual smt game
Game 3 is a spin off dancing game
I wish I can play raidou bit my pc is trash and the modern 2nd hand market being the 2nd hand market
I got a PS2 just to play Raidou 2.
Raidou 2 is a really great game , it's not too complicated & has a great story ! I also love how it can be a serious main story but the side quest sometime just straight up funny as heck.. funny how I love Raidou 2 soo much yet hate the first game
P4D, suprisingly for a dancing game it has a really great story ! Even if it's just like a side game and I like how they stull manage to keep this side game has a mystery genre (?) too bad The P3&P5 dancing game luke for the sake of milking / for fans want a dancing game without a deep story like P4
The first Raidou game is a war crime and aged really poorly, I'm happy you put the sequel here.
It had a cool style, story, setting, ost, characters but the gameplay was terrible, thankfully the sequel made major improvements in that area
The bro is back at again. I miss the Dreamcast.
SMT dx2: Cough cough
Dodge roll? SMT Dark Souls?
Digital devil saga was a good contender for this list, I'd argue less people know who "serph" or "sera" is when compared to "raidou"
But maken X is 100% probably the least known game in the series, arguably not even part of smt, raidou 2 is also not known well...
Yeeeeeah, Maken X is great.
Its funny how I dislike P4D but i love P3D and P5D, totally the opose from Tony
It sucks that I have to emulate most of these
It's because...I CAN'T PLAY THEM!!!
Maken X is really cheap, but you need to have Dreamcast :)
and no one said persona 2
Well, the Persona 2 duology is based, but that's common knowledge in the megaten community, maybe not in the Persona fanbase specifically though
In the first game the few games that have that combat do not seem to work with any controllers that they have existed in. Maybe in something like a VR game it would work, but ... Have not played it though.
I did like the Raidou games for the story, but I am not a fan of the combat, it seemed slow when it came out and by today's standards it is a joke.
Just going to say I generally am not a Persona fan and dancing even less. Basically like the darker sides of SMT. I think the whole Persona series is over rated.
P3 and P5 games are alright. Stop being a biased P4 fanboy Tony. Great video otherwise.
I own raidou 2 but I haven't played 1 yet this video pumped me up so much imma just say fuck it and play 2
Q hayashida mangka of dorohedoro and dai dark. Did two series based on maken x.
True, I love their art and hope to get my hands on the manga at some point