The most brutal part of this challenge was not the hellish difficulty, nor the stringent resource management. No, it was the relentless bullying of poor, poor Nanako. This is truly the worst timeline, True Golden Ending or no.
Wow, this was honestly insane man! HUGE congrats to you for not only doing this run, but doing it on Very Hard Difficulty. I honestly would have gave up and called it impossible, especially after Mitsuo and Ameno-Sagiri who seem to be the most brutal part of the whole run. But you did it! Huge congrats to you! And hey, I got to learn a few things from this run too! Like how KO'd members can debuff Ameno during Bewildering Fog or how Kunino never goes for physical, so you can just endure the whole thing with magic mirrors or makarakarn. Good job getting through this run! Definitely one of the most brutal challenge runs I've ever seen on this game.
For those who didn't know, if you want to make the Shadow Teddie fight easier, when Shadow Teddie charges up to do Nihil Hand, you can stagger him out of it by just dealing enough damage to him before he can use the actual ability, forcing him to forfeit a turn.
@@Somedyingdude the only reason I lost was really just because I came with no plan the hardest part of the fight was Chie giving Yukiko 2 turns I was able to skip the summoning of her prince by damaging her enough before she spawns him
Atlus: Persona is not a grindy game, you can beat it without a single non-story battle.. probably. Ragnar: Aight, bet. Phenomenal run! Would love to see a persona 2 challenge run of some sorts, though as nails game without grinding and getting lucky with evolutions.
This is so cool! Not only is this a super impressive challenge to watch it was a great look into the bosses AI. It really felt like i was learning with you lol
Wow, that was intense. A really fun watch, and I think the way you did commentary this time around is solid. It certainly was easy to follow and it was nice to hear the thought process, something that can get kinda missed in post-scripting, I think.
I did this challenge a few years back when i was bedridden for a while. One of the most fun times i've ever had playing a persona game, second only to my first playthrough of Persona 3 FES. I do recommend.
You put in a lot of work for such a small channel, love your videos. Just as a piece of constructive criticism, when you are explaining your strategies for certain bosses, it would be nice to have some graphics that match what you are talking about on screen. The Mitsuo fight was a good example of this, its really hard to compartmentalize everything that you are saying in my head, and I feel like some graphics would be helpful in making the fight more understandable from a viewers perspective, as well as freshen up the footage past the gameplay that is being shown. I know that these videos take a lot of time and effort to make, and I'm not trying to diminish your already amazing work. Excited for the next video!
This is something I actually thought about as well, even more so when things get a bit more complicated (like the Mitsuo fight). The problem was that I was already so accustomed to everything that it became somewhat "normal" for me, hence why I didn't do anything extra for the most part but it is definitely something I'll keep in the back of my mind for future videos!
I love to see this, genuine criticism that comes from a good place and positive reception. It gives me hope in TH-cam after darn near losing it. Props to you both! 👍
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming I have a question about the RNG manipulation: how do you reliably exploit it to acquire Barbaric Bracers or Chakra Rings from locked chests in the areas where they can appear?
@@steam-powereddolphin5449 as far as I know there is only known item manipulation for the Divine Pillar at the moment since it is used in speedruns. Technically you can manipulate every drop but you'd need to trial and error to find a matching pattern
huge props to you bro. i would never do this. i'm doing a low level (not mandatory encounters, i'm allowing gold shadow grinding cuz they give no exp and i don't think i can win the game without weapon fusion) run of persona 3 fes and this challenge actually seems worse to do. which is funny because most people would consider this game easier on a normal run.
Nice man! I'm doing Very Hard, not a low level run, but I kinda don't just want to grind up to recommended as I might as well have played Hard if I were gonna do that. This is extremely helpful! I'm on Mitsuo right now and man he's a pain.
Somebody who went by the name Soulgrunt actually did something like this a while ago, but their channel seems to have disappeared. I still have a copy of all their pre-boss save files (as they were generous enough to provide these shortly after the first long-awaited port released on June 13, 2020), and I used them to make pre-miniboss saves of my own. If anyone wants these saves, I'm happy to share what this legend left behind... Edit: I believe they also disallowed movies and the Haikara Shirt, and split EXP from every big battle starting with Shadow Mitsuo. The protagonist's final level was a mere 27, and they also relied on dodge strategies later on. (I can tell this because I have the aforementioned saves from the lost legendary run). Even so, your run is still very impressive!
When I first saw this in my recs I thought it was another low effort challenge run video but you're probably one of the best runners out there. Love your content❤.
Update! Grabbed some Magatamas myself thanks to your strat and it helped me push through the armor rebuilds! It was weird though. For a few attempts when he started doing the 2-stage rebuild he finished the 3rd one on the following turn where I only had gotten off around 650dmg. Since I'm not doing low level I lasted a bit against the Gigadynes but eventually lost it. On the attempt where I won he did a 2-stage build and I threw a Bufudyne and 2 Magatamas but then thought back to the last few attempts. If he was gonna take the 3 turns we thought he should I'd still have enough actions but if he finished his rebuild I'm gonna want a Rakukaja on MC. I didn't have enough output to down the 2nd stage rebuild in one turn so might as well buff. Well I buffed and he Dekaja'd and evil smiled! I knocked him down and he started only doing 1-stage rebuilds again which was just like what? Anyways not gonna complain. I took the W. Thanks for the help
Maaaan I spent the entire week watching piece by piece. Tnks for the content and for your time. This is the ultimate Persona Challgenge and Im grateful someone did it for us to watch haha keep going man, cheers from Brasil
Only one other person I know of has done something like this: Soulgrunt. Their channel and videos may be gone...but I still have their saves as proof that it's been done.
I did a similar thing on Very Easy myself. My biggest stumbling block was Ameno-Sagiri as I just didn't have enough of the right items. I had to rely on multiple free revives just to get past, because I didn't have much time or patience then.
My first playthrough of this game was actually a low level run on very hard. I find it interesting your MC and Teddie are the same level as mine when I fought Ameno-sagiri. And this is with me fighting normal enemies for quest and shuffle time.
15:50 THAT'S ALSO WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT THEN THIS BITCH DECIDED TO SILVER RONDO MY MC?! I WAS SO FLABBERGASTED AND SO MAD AT THE GAME I HAD TO FALL BACK AND BREATHE
I think this type of run is what made atlus turn the first shuffle time and shadow negotiation obligatory in every game after p4 so the player doesn't lack options like what's happening here
I don't know why but for some reason when I read the title I assumed it was something like a non randomized run and was very confused before realizing it meant required encounters only
I had relied on dodges multiple times in P4 in a lot of challenge runs, you’ll be surprised how well it worked. I always disliked the divine pillar lol.
Still in Yukiko's part of the video, I'm betting it's just gonna be mirror grinding and Rise null damage support the entire time. Edit: I was going to mention it, but forgor the 21:45
I’d love for you or someone else to do this run on p5, it’s a interesting run but I can’t watch the p3 version of this by someone else cause I’m still early game p3
I felt really dimb being like why would you replace someone woth noato who excels at random encounters. Then realized. Ahe comes with a ton of levels and should be able to out dps izanagi and has better element coverage whixh yu cant do this run
even though the run was invalidated when you didn't help Nanako with her homework, this was one of the coolest runs I've seen!
For legal reasons, this is a joke.
@@steam-powereddolphin5449no it isn’t, not helping Nanako is a sin
@implord4197 its not a hivemind its a fact its not a hivemind its a fact its not a hivemind its a fact one of us one of us one of us one of us SINNER
@implord4197 He persists on his sin 😢
@implord4197🤡🤡🤡
The most brutal part of this challenge was not the hellish difficulty, nor the stringent resource management. No, it was the relentless bullying of poor, poor Nanako. This is truly the worst timeline, True Golden Ending or no.
Wow, this was honestly insane man! HUGE congrats to you for not only doing this run, but doing it on Very Hard Difficulty. I honestly would have gave up and called it impossible, especially after Mitsuo and Ameno-Sagiri who seem to be the most brutal part of the whole run. But you did it! Huge congrats to you! And hey, I got to learn a few things from this run too! Like how KO'd members can debuff Ameno during Bewildering Fog or how Kunino never goes for physical, so you can just endure the whole thing with magic mirrors or makarakarn. Good job getting through this run! Definitely one of the most brutal challenge runs I've ever seen on this game.
Gotta love how the party members almost never level up by defeating hard af bosses, but immediately do by watching a damn movie.
i like how narukami is the only one good enough to actually successfully land after the crowd moves out of the way, he really is the king
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After years of playing persona i realized through this video that Goho-M is a pun "Go Home"
Oh my sweet god.
You're very dumb!
Why haven't I noticed that
Holy shit, first yu then this
How did it take you so long? I found out as soon as Morgana gives you one in P5 😭
What a tenacious person. I'm seriously impressed. This feels like a persona challenge run for the ages, my dude. Congrats!
That challenge was BRUTAL man! Congratulations on beating it!
26:28
Teddie: "Wow, that was intense! Are you all right?"
Everyone dead on the ground:
"All perfectly fine!"
26:27 *
For those who didn't know, if you want to make the Shadow Teddie fight easier, when Shadow Teddie charges up to do Nihil Hand, you can stagger him out of it by just dealing enough damage to him before he can use the actual ability, forcing him to forfeit a turn.
This was easily the most entertaining challenge run I've seen. The Ameno Sagiri fight was hype 😅 amazing!
As someone who did this challenge myself I knew the boss with the most focus would be Ame no Sagiri, that guy is absolute hell for this run.
Bro, I can’t believe this is even possible. Probably isn’t in vanilla p4 because no Rise help, but at this point, nothing would surprise me.
The first mini boss in yukiko's dungeon doesn't even have a weakness in vanilla, so it might just end right there 💀
@@chamclamtv no weaknesses+ no floor reset for treasure farming, the OG P4 Shadow Yukiko was a madness
@@Somedyingdudebro what she’s easy I beat her in 3 try’s.
@@YukiSnow75 >easy
>Took 3 attempts
So is she easy or not, things that take you multiple attempts to complete can be considered difficult
@@Somedyingdude the only reason I lost was really just because I came with no plan the hardest part of the fight was Chie giving Yukiko 2 turns I was able to skip the summoning of her prince by damaging her enough before she spawns him
I haven't finished the video yet but if this is possible you need the most incredible RNG
Ragnar, hats off to you for completing this run. I was on the edge of my seat for some of these fights, but you pulled through.
Atlus: Persona is not a grindy game, you can beat it without a single non-story battle.. probably.
Ragnar: Aight, bet.
Phenomenal run! Would love to see a persona 2 challenge run of some sorts, though as nails game without grinding and getting lucky with evolutions.
This is so cool! Not only is this a super impressive challenge to watch it was a great look into the bosses AI. It really felt like i was learning with you lol
This must have taken FOREVER. Kudos to your perseverance
This is honestly my favorite Persona game, so I always love seeing people do challenge runs of it.
Amazing run! This might be one of the greatest accomplishments for a Persona game
Damn this was so insane and even learned some new things about the game, too. Especially the bewildering fog trick. Congrats!
This run is INSANE. Amazing that you managed to pull it off!
Wow, that was intense. A really fun watch, and I think the way you did commentary this time around is solid. It certainly was easy to follow and it was nice to hear the thought process, something that can get kinda missed in post-scripting, I think.
I did this challenge a few years back when i was bedridden for a while. One of the most fun times i've ever had playing a persona game, second only to my first playthrough of Persona 3 FES. I do recommend.
You put in a lot of work for such a small channel, love your videos. Just as a piece of constructive criticism, when you are explaining your strategies for certain bosses, it would be nice to have some graphics that match what you are talking about on screen. The Mitsuo fight was a good example of this, its really hard to compartmentalize everything that you are saying in my head, and I feel like some graphics would be helpful in making the fight more understandable from a viewers perspective, as well as freshen up the footage past the gameplay that is being shown. I know that these videos take a lot of time and effort to make, and I'm not trying to diminish your already amazing work. Excited for the next video!
This is something I actually thought about as well, even more so when things get a bit more complicated (like the Mitsuo fight). The problem was that I was already so accustomed to everything that it became somewhat "normal" for me, hence why I didn't do anything extra for the most part but it is definitely something I'll keep in the back of my mind for future videos!
I love to see this, genuine criticism that comes from a good place and positive reception. It gives me hope in TH-cam after darn near losing it. Props to you both! 👍
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming I have a question about the RNG manipulation: how do you reliably exploit it to acquire Barbaric Bracers or Chakra Rings from locked chests in the areas where they can appear?
@@steam-powereddolphin5449 as far as I know there is only known item manipulation for the Divine Pillar at the moment since it is used in speedruns. Technically you can manipulate every drop but you'd need to trial and error to find a matching pattern
"such a small channel" bro what the fuck? 9k subs is huge
Bro that calculates damage thingy is a really mindblowing holy fk
this is beyond insane, you put the low level megaten gameplay to the next level with this, props!!
huge props to you bro. i would never do this. i'm doing a low level (not mandatory encounters, i'm allowing gold shadow grinding cuz they give no exp and i don't think i can win the game without weapon fusion) run of persona 3 fes and this challenge actually seems worse to do. which is funny because most people would consider this game easier on a normal run.
What other games would you consider doing a challenge like this for?
This was by far the most interesting challenge run i have seen
Nice man! I'm doing Very Hard, not a low level run, but I kinda don't just want to grind up to recommended as I might as well have played Hard if I were gonna do that. This is extremely helpful! I'm on Mitsuo right now and man he's a pain.
Somebody who went by the name Soulgrunt actually did something like this a while ago, but their channel seems to have disappeared.
I still have a copy of all their pre-boss save files (as they were generous enough to provide these shortly after the first long-awaited port released on June 13, 2020), and I used them to make pre-miniboss saves of my own. If anyone wants these saves, I'm happy to share what this legend left behind...
Edit: I believe they also disallowed movies and the Haikara Shirt, and split EXP from every big battle starting with Shadow Mitsuo. The protagonist's final level was a mere 27, and they also relied on dodge strategies later on. (I can tell this because I have the aforementioned saves from the lost legendary run). Even so, your run is still very impressive!
Aight put your money where your mouth is
Oh hey, didn't expect someone actually did P4 Golden No Grinding after i heard someone said it's impossible. So this will be fun...
Is that pain and suffering playing an arbitrary challenge in persona 4?
Oh, yes please
I had relied on dodges multiple times in P4 in a lot of challenge runs, you’ll be surprised how well it worked.
When I first saw this in my recs I thought it was another low effort challenge run video but you're probably one of the best runners out there. Love your content❤.
Just looking at the title and I'm already worried for your sanity this run sounds like actual torture
i can't believe how crazy this was. I had to grind for hours to beat this game.
Really impressive stuff, man. Your determination's quite something.
you absolute madlad, god damn impressive.
Megaten fans: decides to do a challenge run of Persona 4 (Golden)
Shadow Mitsuo:
an amazing challenge run, wish i was there when you streamed this. take my like you deserve it and more for this.
Yu out here unleashing Ultra Instinct against Ameno-Sagiri.
Holy what a beautiful run and challenge, now am gonna watch all of ur challenges videos 🐐
Update! Grabbed some Magatamas myself thanks to your strat and it helped me push through the armor rebuilds! It was weird though. For a few attempts when he started doing the 2-stage rebuild he finished the 3rd one on the following turn where I only had gotten off around 650dmg. Since I'm not doing low level I lasted a bit against the Gigadynes but eventually lost it.
On the attempt where I won he did a 2-stage build and I threw a Bufudyne and 2 Magatamas but then thought back to the last few attempts. If he was gonna take the 3 turns we thought he should I'd still have enough actions but if he finished his rebuild I'm gonna want a Rakukaja on MC. I didn't have enough output to down the 2nd stage rebuild in one turn so might as well buff. Well I buffed and he Dekaja'd and evil smiled! I knocked him down and he started only doing 1-stage rebuilds again which was just like what? Anyways not gonna complain. I took the W. Thanks for the help
Maaaan I spent the entire week watching piece by piece. Tnks for the content and for your time. This is the ultimate Persona Challgenge and Im grateful someone did it for us to watch haha keep going man, cheers from Brasil
"stuck with izanagi" excuse me that's precisely why it's a doable run lol
huh
Without even watching, I'm going to say the teddie fight was a nightmare. Even going in fully prepared, it's a slog.
It was always deemed impossible till you did it. Great video man thanks for the great content as always
Only one other person I know of has done something like this: Soulgrunt.
Their channel and videos may be gone...but I still have their saves as proof that it's been done.
Very impressive! I tried this before on the easiest difficulty and just couldn't do it. Congratulations on the clear!
I did a similar thing on Very Easy myself. My biggest stumbling block was Ameno-Sagiri as I just didn't have enough of the right items. I had to rely on multiple free revives just to get past, because I didn't have much time or patience then.
ahahaha no hesitation
"do you like kids?"
"i hate kids!"
glad I'm not the only one who's always forgetting to grab the orb of darkness
21:45 Joseph anderson did permenant damage to the persona fandom
man I can't even beat kunino sagiri on easy playing normally and this man does it solo with a handicap on very hard
bro your viewer counter per video is so high but your subscriber count is so low. thats not fair. i subscribed :)
_Oddly poetic that Void Quest forced you to use Damage Calcs._
You are a strategy master, awesome video!
My first playthrough of this game was actually a low level run on very hard. I find it interesting your MC and Teddie are the same level as mine when I fought Ameno-sagiri. And this is with me fighting normal enemies for quest and shuffle time.
Narly's izanagi run on steriods
All those movies really paid off in the end, huh.
yesterday i watched your P5R Video today this one. Great ones. And i love Persona Games so much, it was so fun to watch them. sub inc
1:35:45 Yukiko walking all the way to slap teddie xD
Honestly i CANNOT imagine fighting Yukiko's persona without the butterfly prince
No bc literally THE ONLY WAY to survive Burn to Ashes is to block, i swear to god no matter how much def u put in, you will DIE if you don't block
15:50 THAT'S ALSO WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT THEN THIS BITCH DECIDED TO SILVER RONDO MY MC?! I WAS SO FLABBERGASTED AND SO MAD AT THE GAME I HAD TO FALL BACK AND BREATHE
I think this type of run is what made atlus turn the first shuffle time and shadow negotiation obligatory in every game after p4 so the player doesn't lack options like what's happening here
I was literally just thinking about doing this challenge and I couldn’t even get to chie awakening 😅 so good luck on that
Cool challenge idea, well done
I've scorpioned twice, I can't believe I didnt break my back
I don't know why but for some reason when I read the title I assumed it was something like a non randomized run and was very confused before realizing it meant required encounters only
Love your videos :) great job once again!
I had relied on dodges multiple times in P4 in a lot of challenge runs, you’ll be surprised how well it worked. I always disliked the divine pillar lol.
Amazing video, prolly gonna try to pull off something like this in p3p
Crazy run, probably the hardest way to play the game
you failed Nanako, you disappoint me
bro got that dream luck
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Imo you should’ve kept using yosuke bc his super ability is really good for evasion and healing. Still a great run!
hed be far too underlevelled
Yu achieved Ultra Instinct
21:35 bro did not hesitate
Holy hell that was an amazing video
Still in Yukiko's part of the video, I'm betting it's just gonna be mirror grinding and Rise null damage support the entire time.
Edit: I was going to mention it, but forgor the 21:45
Truly an achievement
Moral of this run: Items op
I forgot it too buddy. I forgot it too.
effectively Minimum Battles, reduced EXP and Money, Handicaped against player to max (You do less damage and they do more damage)? Yeah that's *harsh*
An amazing challenge as always s2
Nan close enough ..... Stoll better then 99% of us will do
This challenge is batmans way of playing the game
Nah, Batman’s way would be be beating every enemy to a pulp but just *barely* leaving them alive before leaving
I uh was also doing this... damn nice
1:32 RISE TUMMY
Hydrogen bomb(bosses) vs coughing baby(yu)
„And we did eat all the girls food“ 😂
Didn’t think it was possible
Really great video 👍
I’d love for you or someone else to do this run on p5, it’s a interesting run but I can’t watch the p3 version of this by someone else cause I’m still early game p3
Even normal difficulty are already challenging for me😢
Items: the run
Dang! Well done!
I felt really dimb being like why would you replace someone woth noato who excels at random encounters. Then realized. Ahe comes with a ton of levels and should be able to out dps izanagi and has better element coverage whixh yu cant do this run
Pain.
cool i cant beat even normaly final boss