Great podcast. The problem as I see it with the new brands coming to Australia is they a city centric. We have a Toyota Land Cruiser, one of the reasons we chose Toyota is there is a dealership and service centre in most towns through out Australia.
Agree with James. Nissan is just too slow introducing new technology. I didn't even know the new patrol will take 3 years to come here. That's ridiculously slow and they deserve to lose the market.
@@phyjuno it doesn’t. It uses more fuel than the Rav, twice as much as the new Camry, poor off road, The boot is smaller than the T31 X-Trail, and it costs too much. And I own a T31 series 4 X-trail. I so wanted the new one to be better… it needed to be.
Australia is a relatively small market, so it's very difficult to justify the cost of operations. Australian new cars sales was 1.2 million in 2023, while it was 15.5 million in the US and 10.5 million in Europe. (And top selling models in Australia are often utes.) If you're an automaker, which market would you try to send new products?
@@phyju They still use that outdated 2.5L N/A engine with CVT transmission for the majority of the X-Trail range. The hybrid is not much better in saving fuel either.
@@yo2trader539 I agree that Australia is a small market. But Nissan is a legacy manufacturer that has been building cars for almost a century why can't they ramp up the production initially? Nevertheless 3 years is way too long, the model would be ready for a mid-life update and people already moved to buy other brands.
Nissan make absolutely dogshit products. Aside from the GTR, the patrol and maybe the navara, Nissan’s passenger cars are outdated, poorly put together, and duller than watching paint dry. I currently have a Juke as a rental, I’ve never been in something that feels so cheap.
Sadly true. Nissan of today is not the Nissan of the 80s and 90s that made iconic cars like the 300ZX, Skyline and Maxima. Ever since Nissan started their collaboration with Renault and went non-Japanese in terms of ownership/management its been all downhill.
To be fair to Nissan, we currently have a Nissan Qashqai e-Power on loan and we are thoroughly enjoying in. Their Mitsubishi alliance seems to be helping their passenger cars out a lot.
Long time listener but first time chiming in! Especially in regard to nissan, i actually agree with the CEO's comments. The stand off with this countrys rediciouls emisions regulations is just crippling for car manufacturers who market relaibility in line with their pricing. Having a 780,000km hilux i still drive daily i know that will never exsist again with the way these engines are just throttled and restriced. I allmost hope more of the major players join him and make a stand saying with what the gorernment is asking they wont be able to continue to support sales in this country
I think EV’s and hybrids are driven by woke government policy rather than consumer demand, with the downturn in demand for EV’s manufacturers need to be very careful going forward. As for the question of which mix of hybrid I’d be interested in purchasing the answer is none, I think mild hybrids done properly have some small benefits because they don’t have large weight penalties. Legacy manufacturers particularly major Japanese brands will always have preference for me because opposed to Chinese and some Korean models they have much better resale and they are better quality.
One thing that people aren’t looking at is the mentality difference of Japanese business vs China. Japanese were unbelievably deliberate and entered the market long term. Chinese brands are much more agile in their approach, they will enter and they will leave. Look at Chinese electronics. Skirmishes into nz and Australia are often early market entry to learn about European markets, and then they move focus (often leave) and target larger European markets. Will be interesting to see if this pattern repeats with cars.
Keeep Max on obviously, i jsit wanna hear about cars, dont rly mind whos talkikg to me, as long as its not Jade who left without a goodbye amd wemt to drive😭🤚
If you want to keep sedans alive in Australia buy a Toyota Camry as all the other dinosaurs are gone. I guess you guys have just shown your ignorance of what’s still on sale, as I just bought a Mazda 6 sedan, something I consider superior to a Camry after much research. These vehicles are still available in petrol only, how could the three so called experts forget this fact?
Fair point, the Mazda 6 did slip our minds in the moment we were speaking about the Camry, but given there have been less than 900 deliveries of the Mazda 6 this year it would seem it slipped the minds of the buying public too.
@@CarExpertAus Yes, I think it has poor marketing. For me the Camry failed to offer a light coloured interior and a petrol model, so I went Mazda. Last chance to get a petrol sedan from a quality manufacturer. Maybe this will help their sales this year?
As the owner of a 2022 Q5 Petrol I wish I had bought the diesel. I’m from UK and I just love diesel cars and the fuel economy, torque and refinement of the diesel would be my preference in the future. I’m not interested in EV or PHEV.
Chinese cars are improving and appearance-wise, they look like fantastic deals. Problem is Chinese manufacturers are well known for their gung ho approach to new technology-they don't do much testing. Hence consumers are pretty much the guinea pigs. They prefer to learn on the fly so-to-speak. I like the way Japanese manufacturers like Toyota/Lexus do exhaustive testing of their products and don't get me wrong-they do produce lemons notwithstanding.
Are you sure about that - Reported right here on Car Expert - BYD's DM-i plug-in hybrid technology looks set to power the next generation of Toyota vehicles, with Japanese media reporting that the Chinese tech will deliver total driving range in excess of 1000kms WLTP
Yes Scott has left CarExpert to pursue other opportunities. He is still doing some writing for the website though, so plenty of sock-free motoring to be read about if you're so inclined.
Rajesh Kumar from Wentworthville Sydney has taken delivery of the latest version of the Camry iso in the Wentworthville /Westmead he's like a hero status
Try reselling a 2-3 years old Audi etron and you’ll have your answer. Pls try to be neutral car journalists and stop shoving this EV agenda in every conversation.
12:26 BEV ('Full EV') sales were up ~18% year-on-year in the first half of 2024. This compares all Australian car sales (excluding BEVs) up 8% over the same period. Source: FCAI
Good podcast lineup today.
Max can stay. He’s very knowledgeable and easy to listen to.
Great podcast. The problem as I see it with the new brands coming to Australia is they a city centric. We have a Toyota Land Cruiser, one of the reasons we chose Toyota is there is a dealership and service centre in most towns through out Australia.
i reckon you guys should nab max from his desk a bit more, top stuff
Non Chinese manufacturers are gonna have to lower their entry pricing back to pre covid levels if they are to stave off the Chinese onslaught
Max is a good analyst
Agree with James. Nissan is just too slow introducing new technology. I didn't even know the new patrol will take 3 years to come here. That's ridiculously slow and they deserve to lose the market.
@@phyjuno it doesn’t. It uses more fuel than the Rav, twice as much as the new Camry, poor off road, The boot is smaller than the T31 X-Trail, and it costs too much. And I own a T31 series 4 X-trail. I so wanted the new one to be better… it needed to be.
Australia is a relatively small market, so it's very difficult to justify the cost of operations. Australian new cars sales was 1.2 million in 2023, while it was 15.5 million in the US and 10.5 million in Europe. (And top selling models in Australia are often utes.) If you're an automaker, which market would you try to send new products?
@@phyju They still use that outdated 2.5L N/A engine with CVT transmission for the majority of the X-Trail range. The hybrid is not much better in saving fuel either.
@@yo2trader539 I agree that Australia is a small market. But Nissan is a legacy manufacturer that has been building cars for almost a century why can't they ramp up the production initially? Nevertheless 3 years is way too long, the model would be ready for a mid-life update and people already moved to buy other brands.
@@thearlongpark but the tech is new and unique. The Toyota uses a motor just as old.
Audio is stuffed, have to have it cranked to hear it and when Paul came in at 21 minutes it nearly blew up my speakers.
BYD will be the new Toyota in the near future.
No China.
Hybrids and PHEVs are simply dumb unless its a Lexus/Toyota hybrid. Very complex to repair
Nissan complaining… because their products are rubbish and not selling. Honda and Nissan will withdraw from Australia soon
Nissan Qashqai was the best selling model in the UK a few years back. But again, Nissan has a factory in the UK.
Why do you think Nissan and Honda will withdraw?
It hasn’t been announced. Honda is going to withdraw from Australia some insider info
@Alex7-07 got a scoop? Feel free to jump onto the CarExpert website and fill out the Contact Us form with any info you want to share.
@@Alex7-07 their sales are abysmal and not sustainable.
Just FYI, saw a Lexus GX550 in Sth Melbourne today - didn't think they were out here yet.
Review goes live on Wednesday!
I saw one in Collingwood three weeks ago too.
Nissan make absolutely dogshit products. Aside from the GTR, the patrol and maybe the navara, Nissan’s passenger cars are outdated, poorly put together, and duller than watching paint dry. I currently have a Juke as a rental, I’ve never been in something that feels so cheap.
Sadly true. Nissan of today is not the Nissan of the 80s and 90s that made iconic cars like the 300ZX, Skyline and Maxima. Ever since Nissan started their collaboration with Renault and went non-Japanese in terms of ownership/management its been all downhill.
To be fair to Nissan, we currently have a Nissan Qashqai e-Power on loan and we are thoroughly enjoying in. Their Mitsubishi alliance seems to be helping their passenger cars out a lot.
Sound quality of the video is pretty average compared to the usual high standard.
Long time listener but first time chiming in! Especially in regard to nissan, i actually agree with the CEO's comments. The stand off with this countrys rediciouls emisions regulations is just crippling for car manufacturers who market relaibility in line with their pricing. Having a 780,000km hilux i still drive daily i know that will never exsist again with the way these engines are just throttled and restriced. I allmost hope more of the major players join him and make a stand saying with what the gorernment is asking they wont be able to continue to support sales in this country
Yeah Max is cool
I think EV’s and hybrids are driven by woke government policy rather than consumer demand, with the downturn in demand for EV’s manufacturers need to be very careful going forward.
As for the question of which mix of hybrid I’d be interested in purchasing the answer is none, I think mild hybrids done properly have some small benefits because they don’t have large weight penalties.
Legacy manufacturers particularly major Japanese brands will always have preference for me because opposed to Chinese and some Korean models they have much better resale and they are better quality.
Max back
One thing that people aren’t looking at is the mentality difference of Japanese business vs China. Japanese were unbelievably deliberate and entered the market long term. Chinese brands are much more agile in their approach, they will enter and they will leave. Look at Chinese electronics. Skirmishes into nz and Australia are often early market entry to learn about European markets, and then they move focus (often leave) and target larger European markets. Will be interesting to see if this pattern repeats with cars.
Hi Guys, listening to this episode on CarPlay is near impossible. Can barely hear a thing at full volume.
Hybrid is the future, imho. Electric cars can be controlled as well (if/when electricity rationing takes places or the grid fails).
Max is good.
Max is no Scott, but keep him. Good first run.
The kid was good 😁
Something muffled, you may need to change microphones
Keeep Max on obviously, i jsit wanna hear about cars, dont rly mind whos talkikg to me, as long as its not Jade who left without a goodbye amd wemt to drive😭🤚
If you want to keep sedans alive in Australia buy a Toyota Camry as all the other dinosaurs are gone. I guess you guys have just shown your ignorance of what’s still on sale, as I just bought a Mazda 6 sedan, something I consider superior to a Camry after much research. These vehicles are still available in petrol only, how could the three so called experts forget this fact?
What’s your fuel consumption like?
The 6 is an absolute dinosaur, the current model launched 7 years ago and has barely changed since...
Fair point, the Mazda 6 did slip our minds in the moment we were speaking about the Camry, but given there have been less than 900 deliveries of the Mazda 6 this year it would seem it slipped the minds of the buying public too.
@@CarExpertAus Yes, I think it has poor marketing. For me the Camry failed to offer a light coloured interior and a petrol model, so I went Mazda. Last chance to get a petrol sedan from a quality manufacturer. Maybe this will help their sales this year?
As the owner of a 2022 Q5 Petrol I wish I had bought the diesel. I’m from UK and I just love diesel cars and the fuel economy, torque and refinement of the diesel would be my preference in the future. I’m not interested in EV or PHEV.
Chinese cars are improving and appearance-wise, they look like fantastic deals. Problem is Chinese manufacturers are well known for their gung ho approach to new technology-they don't do much testing. Hence consumers are pretty much the guinea pigs. They prefer to learn on the fly so-to-speak.
I like the way Japanese manufacturers like Toyota/Lexus do exhaustive testing of their products and don't get me wrong-they do produce lemons notwithstanding.
Are you sure about that - Reported right here on Car Expert -
BYD's DM-i plug-in hybrid technology looks set to power the next generation of Toyota vehicles, with Japanese media reporting that the Chinese tech will deliver total driving range in excess of 1000kms WLTP
? Where’s Scott? Did he leave CarExpert? So sad if he did. Still will follow, but will miss him!
Scott gone !! Some new guys started in boss roles etc. Dunno if related ?!?
Yes Scott has left CarExpert to pursue other opportunities. He is still doing some writing for the website though, so plenty of sock-free motoring to be read about if you're so inclined.
Insider info Honda is definitely withdrawing from Australia
Audi is just catching up with the others realising ev's aren't for everyone I.e like toyota and Hyundai /Kia
Rajesh Kumar from Wentworthville Sydney has taken delivery of the latest version of the Camry iso in the Wentworthville /Westmead he's like a hero status
Nissan would say that.🤣
so nissan openly admitted they only have shxt cars to sell you....
Try reselling a 2-3 years old Audi etron and you’ll have your answer.
Pls try to be neutral car journalists and stop shoving this EV agenda in every conversation.
12:26 BEV ('Full EV') sales were up ~18% year-on-year in the first half of 2024. This compares all Australian car sales (excluding BEVs) up 8% over the same period. Source: FCAI
I guess purchasing the base-model Camry will hide the bland rear design.
Don’t like sedans… old man car and perfect for ride share
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