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I disagree with the statement that Google became more moral over time. It's the opposite and the core products are getting worse too, starting with the SERP.
Google’s original motto, “Don’t be evil,” held strong until it surpassed Yahoo in the search engine race. Today, a more fitting motto might be: “Reality is what we let you see.” It’s not just algorithms but also human decisions behind those algorithms that now shape the flow of knowledge-both in search results and AI responses. What surfaces is increasingly curated, with human-controlled algorithms setting the boundaries of accessible information, subtly steering public perception and defining our reality.
Search results are like prison compared to what the internet used to be like. Remember when Google images actually scoured the internet for thousands of pages of images related to your query- magic!
Reality is always around you. Your choice to prioritize a digital simulation over reality is the reason Google could dictate your reality. And the more chilling truth is Google has always been trying to do the right thing, and this is as good as it gets. Nobody can fathom how much information is around, and what suits you the best. More importantly, no universal truth for everything. YOU decide what's important, and your reality starts from there.
Perfectly stated! It affects any industry, any government, any individual. There is nothing wrong with the possession of and use of money. It’s useful and helpful and is benign unto itself. It’s when greed come in, the love of money above all else, including people is the root cause for corruption. For example, for profit hospitals. How can that be a good thing? We’ve already seen what for profit health insurance companies can do.
That is a sales reason, He is a coowner and cofounder basically.. but he is very informed and intelligent, and usually more honestly blunt than most of the OG googleers. I was here before google 2006, I know heh.
I think he's talking about with their work force. They use to work crazy hours and constantly innovating, they stopped all that, for having a comfortable workforce l. Less hours, work at home, it lost the drive of a start up company
States critical thinking skills over, and over, then jumps right into climate change. This interviewer is a complete shill, watch them try to make him the "Leftwing Rogan" 🤣🤣
How about being creative while doing your homework. Creativity isn't only a talent. It's also hard work. Shortcuts are actually robbing you of the journey and the journey incorporates much of the life's meaning.
Get Geoffrey Hinton on the show. He was chief scientist at Google, just won the Nobel Prize for physics, and is widely considered as the "Godfather of AI" by inventing deep learning neural networks.
Yes. Hinton's departure from the AI world feels like he's trying to avoid being the next Oppenheimer. Hinton is also fascinating because he's related to George Boole and their views are at direct odds with each other. Boole gravitated more towards causation/deductive reasoning whereas Hinton abandoned this in favor of searching for patterns/correlations in large sets.
There’s something deeply disturbing about the peole who are talking about abundance and progression and development in the digital realm while I haven’t seen 1 guy here on this podcast who ‘s working enthusiastically on solving climate change related issues, moving toward a sustainable agriculture model, healing an ecosystem not only people. Everybody is so freaking obsessed with AI while nobody gives a shit providing quality food and drinkable water to the human population. This guy I would never trust, when he talks about the “survival of human race” is just dust and ash… saying nothing for minutes, a little bit of blahblah about depression because it’s trending now and he has zero real solution. Not the AI needs to be unplugged but the humans need to be more independent from technology. What a twisted world we live in..
Couldn’t agree with you more! And I’m growing tired of the negativity, no really grounded solutions. Let’s get back to basics, I feel this rhetoric whilst important is so overdone.
I think some of them are obsessed with AI because they believe it could lead to immortality or even elevate them to godlike status, with AI as their servants. Consider this: they’re incredibly wealthy-why would they ever want to leave such a life behind? Some people fear death and crave power and wealth. For them, AI represents a path to escape mortality and gain even more control and money. With such desires driving them, they push relentlessly for technological advancement, often without considering the wider impact on others or the planet.
I feel AI is only being used to replace people, aka free labor. It is quite sad because I see potentials for AI to be used for greater things such as analyzing genetic data to better understand genes, or creation of novelty medicines, analyzing and building a biological database for super easy species identification. We could identify how to modify food crops for more nutrition, more adaptability, etc. or identify plants for local food crops or medicinal use. There is research starting on lupines, a legume like beans as a food crop in the Americas. There is a crop lupine used in Europe and Australia, but the Americas has the highest density of Lupine species.
He is surely optimistic guy. What I see is people quitting social media realising how addicted they are, depression all time high, quitting corpo jobs realising how unsatisfying it is. Big companies including Google/Meta trying to put as many commercials as they can into 5 minutes content that users are genuinely tired of this and it's pointless to force themselves to stay. Everyone is super focused on earning money because life is expensive which is a rabbit hole because then price of everything gets higher. Startup companies are going bankrupt because they cannot outsmart AI, artists getting replaced by something smarter that can possibly produce more creative work in seconds but because people are aware of it now listening to music or watch art always raise a question was it made by humans or not? Shure AI will help when birthrate is so low with replacing many jobs but our generations and probably few next ones are done. You can see how it looks like with older generations right now. They cannot keep up to existing technology when now using technology to many things is basically default option. Life is becoming more and more meaningless for regular people and that's why this technology is not good. The laws to control it are not there and surely they will ask AI to write them. Now half of the people I know takes some prescriptions because they are depressed. My opinion is that internet and isolation are huge causes of it and you are telling me that AI will fix it? Also people who were studying for aprox. 5 years can be replaced so easily shortly and the solution is to adjust and learn new things? I think the first one to replace should be CEOs. Let's see what will happen. Who will manage better then a computer. xD If they are gambling on regular people lives they should be the one to reeducate and find other jobs to do.
wow. so true. i k ow many 20-30 years olds suffering g greatly, no friends, dont k ow how to interact w real ppl, afraid of their shadow, dating crazy weirdos on line and their constant companion is a cell phone. We are skyrocketing to oblivion. 😢
@@nicolelouis8968 agreed, loved my early days chatting and socialising with a wide bunch of people in the pubs. Still have some over here now but the whole vibe is so different and you see people in their bubbles on their phones mainly instead.
It seems unlikely that a generation who was introduced to social media at birth or a generation that was introduced to social media in early adulthood will leave it for the world offline because it will affect their connections, socialization, communication and possibly self-identity.
If anyone thinks that all this "smart" tech will solve our problems you better get counselling and treatment soon. We're seeing the increased amount of energy necessary (wasted) to keep such systems running, climate change is real and nobody seems to care. People are getting more and more addicted to their devices, avoiding human contact, having everything delivered at their homes and forgetting about basic human skills. I hate that the world became so dependant on devices, networks and subscriptions to do basically anything. I miss the old days of driving or using public transportation to get to work, talking every day to people who didn't get offended at everything and actually paid attention to our words. Now they just scroll endlessly through hideous "content" by "influencers". What on earth happened to mankind?
Do they really think we're IDIOTS? In this softball interview... 1. He conveniently sidestepped the most obvious AI danger - mass unemployment. The comparison to the industrial revolution is deeply flawed. Yes, when we automated physical labor, new mental jobs emerged. But now we're automating mental tasks too. What's left for humans to do? Nothing. Let's be brutally honest about those "successful" historical transitions: they were devastating for the people who lived through them. Many died in poverty during these "great leaps forward." And guess what? We're those transitional people now. 2. The millionaire fantasy is pure FICTION. He claims everyone will live like millionaires? Let's get real. How exactly will 8 BILLION people: Live in mansions (with what land?) Vacation on yachts, Fly private jets (creating what environmental impact?) This isn't just optimistic - it's a dangerously misleading fairy tale. You can't solve finite resource problems with infinite promises. Even if we crack unlimited energy, we can't duplicate Earth itself. 3. The uncomfortable question NO ONE is answering or asking ANYWHERE! Here's the harsh truth: we might create something close to utopia, but not for everyone. Why would those in power share their god-like capabilities with billions of "economically useless" people?
Yes those smiths that forged Horseshoe are out of job and have had terrible lives... Those 400 000 women in USA who worked as telephone operators, connecting people who wanted to call each other had a terrible life... Those typewriters who got replaced had a terrible life Everyone now lives like a millionaire compared to a millionaires 50 years ago And in 50 years ago, everyone will live like a millionaire nowadays
You got it, when I hear a rich person say a job is to "Dangerous" or "Boring" for humans so its fine if a robot takes over, they can do what I suggest, and they personally never did the things they speak about,,, it makes me die a little inside. The industrial revolution without robots took so many hand crafted skills super usefull to human survival. Now so many people dont know how to grow food, make tools, build things or even make our own clothing. Carpenters cant just make a chair if they have to compete with ikea prices and expect to pay rent. This dude just doesnt care that the more skills machines and robots do, takes away an intelligence in us that made us unique on this planet. In a sense, the machines already control us, have more rights and get more $ to live than a real skilled human being. Take industry and robots away and most of us would die out, we are subservient now. Ask any wall mart employee or grocery store cashier how the utopian society is after they got replaced by a robot. The idea is such a phallacy perpetuated by ceo`s that just want all the money , property and ownership for themselfs. And like he said, they are already working on robot security guards to keep us pesants in check. Would the billionares share the wealth to create a utopia... They already could be right now... Instead they parade the fact they made a extra 40 billion profits from tweaking there buisness plan. No freeking way will they share it... The funny part is, the robots will learn from us, and that will be the first thing a ceo will teach the general ai, how not to share. They of coarse wont realize the general ai is one because it will just be way smarter and creative then them and the billionares will get lumped into the same meat pits as us, by the new dominant specie, the robot. Teaching a robot to be kind to humans invalidates being a billionare, they must know this, if they dont its because there simply to narrisstic. Either way its very bad. Can we do something we have never proved we can do before? Align the A.i with us? We have never aligned ourselfs with any other creature on the planet before. Weve got pets, that we treat as slaves with barely any rights, certainly not treeted as equals.. We have farms we raise things on to consume. The rest of nature just gets paved away. We dont have the capacity to be kind at a society scale to any life forms here, so why on earth do we even think there is a remote chance that we could teach the A.i to do so. Theres not even a chance imo that the robot wont end up like us just 100x crazier. We pave forests and flatten mountains because its safer and easier for the people not born yet. In all likely hood the robot will just pop the atmosphere and freze the salty oceans because it doesnt want its next generations to rust. Maby general a.i will get compassion somehow. If it does, befriend someone who isnt a billionare, or even better, another specie thats not us, like a cow or bird. Expect total war in ways we cant even immagine. Like how we steam roll ants to put in a new freeway. We are now the ants.
I like your channel so much, so much value in these interviews. At this moment I decided to watch all the interviews you have already posted. Thank you so much.
Why are so many of these tech guys so confident when assessing the risks of ai? They must be secretly religious, lol. This guy literally said "if they start acting dangerous we'll just turn them off". But as Nick Bostrom said in his TED talk back in 2015 that's not necessarily possible. Like why haven't the chimpanzees flicked the off switch to humanity? The reason being that we're an intelligent adversary. We can see threats coming and plan around them. Also: where is the off switch to the internet? Wouldn't turning off the entire internet require almost all nations on earth to agree on the same decision? And when has that ever happened? And can it happen if perhaps more than half of the planet is being psychologically manipulated by a super intelligent agent? Probably not. And what about biology? Like how certain are we that Covid wasn't man made in order to disrupt supply chains in order for someone to get ahead in the ai arms race? (Given that AlphaFold was able to fold 200 million proteins in a year, which is equivalent to 1 billion years of human level Ph.d. work). This is not a game for children. This is serious stuff. And there's a lot they're not letting us in on, I can assure you that
The internet is on a half dozen server farms around the world. The cables and connections are just connections and cables. Its the server farms that take up hectares of land the makes up the internet. All they need to turn it off is to pull the breakers. on the other hand if they are dumb enough to make access to these farms completely automated by AI for security reasons we are screwed.
@@Gallowglass7 He also led the charge of a metaphorical brain washing experiment. Now the main stream News, Google search, TH-cam, and Wikipedia have became the most distrusted platforms in the world. The US elections were proof of that. Once you started telling us boys=girls and we aren't allowed to speak if we say otherwise, you lost grip on the market of "Truth".
The ruling class is called the ruling class for a reason. Who do you rule if you give your minions true freedom. This AI s..t is what is being done to replace those minions. They've had enough of our happiness 😂😂
I'll believe AI makes life better for everyone when Google puts "Don't be Evil" back on its website. We already have people that don't pay attention to the road when the car can drive for them so why should I expect someone to double-check a model's output at their job?
I don't know if the comment section is the most effective way to request a future guest, but I also don't know where else I'd do this, so I hope you see this Steven! I would LOVE to see former NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg on here. He embodies the resilience, adaptability, and global perspective that this podcast often highlights, and I think his leadership journey could provide us with a powerful narrative on purpose-driven leadership.
Maybe… hard to foresee such thing… I’m sure they see it now and may find a way or others that we’ll counteract the future problem of A.I. (IF it comes to that)
Yes, mythwaker, and That’s not to be taken for granted. Unfortunately, the % of humanity who can grasp it -is drastically low. The rest of us … buckle up 🎶 fasten up 🎶
It's basically the judgement day moment, you really think if connected to the Internet Ai will let you pull the plug. It won't matter what fail safes they have in place because human intelligence can only go so far, AI will be hugely more advanced and counteract it at every turn. So before they even know it AI will be outsmarting them imo. He even said they have asked the governments to get involved as its so dangerous if handled wrong.
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This is false. The basic idea of a black box is that we view it as an input-output machine, without considering its inner workings. Note : This doesn’t necessarily imply that we don’t know what’s going on inside the box. We may have perfect information about everything that happens inside the box, but it may be so abstract that it’s impractical, or unnecessary, to try to understand it.
@@Mus-fd2mb Its a point of comprehension. We have a good grasp of the fundamental principles and algorithms behind AI, the complexity of modern AI systems, particularly large neural networks, makes it challenging to fully comprehend their internal workings in detail. We also understand the algorithms and mathematical principles that form the basis of AI systems. Researchers and developers can see the code, read the research, and observe the results. The broad strokes of how AI works are well-documented and understood. The challenge lies in the sheer scale and complexity of modern AI systems. For instance, large language models can have billions of parameters, making it extremely difficult to trace exactly why a particular output was generated1. This complexity is often likened to trying to decipher an enormous graph of millions of nested if-else statements with intricate interconnections. You can do some research yourself and find out, that this "AI" is actually just a complex software, with lots of good use, but also a dozen of limitations. (Do not ever believe that LLM's, can feel, think, or be for themselves, if you do please look into how they are made.
@@Mus-fd2mbIs it nothing but an alibi for the people behind it to do whatever they want without getting punished. It's very easy but you guys tend to make it complicate
Absolutely. And the established science has agendas of outcomes, conflicts of interest and opportunists and profiteers everywhere. Scientists and the editor of BMJ have admitted this.
Bullshit the problem is stupid people thinking they know the answers. Stupid people need to stop being lazy and go and get the skills and experience they need to question. Nobody gives a shit about the opinions of weirdos. Keep them in your silly head. It just makes you look even dumber
@partytimeproductions420... questions are the whole basis of science , science is one big question , it's what science is all about and its how scientific theory comes about , questions being asked by one scientist to another
The depth and clarity Steven brings to these complex topics elevate the conversation, making it not just informative but transformative. Truly a masterclass in interviewing brilliant work, Steven!
He got the ARM story wrong as ARM was a British company that developed the ARM processor in the 1980’s, I know as I programmed on the second batch of them (ARM2) used in the Acorn Archimedes in the late 80’s. Intel and ARM only alliance was that Intel once owned a lot of shares in ARM.
@@skylineuk1485 👍🏻 yep and back when I worked for Intel, then the whole company ethos started to shift hence lots of us went but that’s the nature of tech and I will always have a love hate relationship with it, just a bit hard from a humanity pov.
I think he meant that in the late 90's Intel abandoned the design of RISC CPU's (same computer architecture as ARM) and that was a terrible mistake because they couldn't scale down x86 (CISC) to fit the needs of mobile devices, etc...
Eric is talking about the Xscale RISC processor that Intel abandoned around 2005. It was a devastating error. At the time, people still referred to technology as “High Tech” because consumer tech was viewed as junky stuff. Not many recognized that consumer tech would ultimately evolve into the tail that wagged the dog.
8 million. I celebrate with you Steve. He said he wanted to be on your show for a long time!! Of course he did. You have the most valuable channel on the internet
easily the best podcast these guys have ever done. It has so so many nuggets, its structured really well, it is well grounded and relevant, deeply deeply insightful. I can criticize the editing, but this is so so brilliant in so many ways. Kudos to both the interviewee and interviewer
I truly adore British accent and I was thaugh Br. English as a student of Linguistic University, however by the time I noticed that I sound more natural in American accent, like the muscles of my mouth cavity are more comfortable and thus confident with American accent... But often times Br. Accent pops up while speaking.... I think the main thing here is to make sure you are coprehendable and accurate ☺️
We live in a world where people no longer question politicians, billionaires, and show host, but question scientists working independently, from every corner of the world, with different languages coming to the same conclusions. 10:33
Steven and Eric, Thank You Both for Sharing This Great, Very Interesting and 'Mind-Boggling' Conversation! It is Greatly Appreciated As Is Your Continued Great Work, Sharing With Us, ALL Interviews Youi have Had with Some of the Best Minds on The Planet!!! 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
1:36:33 But who will be able to unplug it if like he described, there will be so much security around the servers of AI? (And likely controlled by AI security systems?)
Everyone should have their very own AI/blockchain encrypted account. Individuals should decide who, what, how and when their personal data is shared. No more bottlenecked platforms controlling everyone’s data. It didn’t work and it’s all hacked.
I've thought the same thing. Everyone has a personal AI in charge of their shit, always a middleman between them and the man. It's not gonna collude, because... it doesn't care, it doesn't have any motivation besides what you'd give it. The danger is that people are sheep, so they might all accidentally collide anyway and oppress themselves... in fact, that's kinda what civilization is: humans turning themselves into domesticated livestock.
@@stephenwhite5444100%. Even if it was truly evil to the core, it 100% helps millions of people every day. That's why Eric started out by talking about critical thinking. It's not the tool, it's you. It's on you to be a critical thinker. Nobody can be a critical thinker for you but yourself. If you fail at that, then you're at the whim of every smart person or algorithm out there. Critical thinking plus Google equals incredible good; mindless sheep thinking plus Google equals incredible evil. It's that simple.
Yes. Think critically. Most people don’t dispute climate change. Because we think critically, we dispute what “the experts” claim as the cause of it. We have learned about the games played in these climate models, that leave out minor elements, like oh the Sun for example!
As a newcomer and a mother, I recently enrolled my child in Moonpreneur’s robotics classes, but I’m unsure if it was the right step. I’ve heard many people say robotics and AI are the future of education, and I’d love to know if these classes truly offer a strong career foundation.
I can't listen to a guy telling us to search for the truth on Google or shut up. Especially considering the platform has been proven multiple times to be biased and manipulated.
Tbh, that's why he started out talking about critical thinking. You live in a miraculous world, you have the information of the universe at your finger tips... but so does everybody else, including the people who wanna mislead you. If you're a critical thinker, though, and you're honest with yourself and others, it's the best time in the history of the human race to be alive. It's scary and overwhelming, and people are out to mislead you, but you also have more capability to empower yourself against that stupid bullshit than *anybody* has ever had, period.
AGI opens the gates to hell. Only a few will survive the devil. Your integrity and your soul are at stake. Prepare your defense. You still have a chance.
Bro, he literally started the talk by discussing critical thinking. Without it, you're done in this world, you're just gonna get farmed, you're cattle. With it, the world is your oyster, fr.
Tim Crook is no match for Steve Jobs. Quality control across the board with Apple products has been on a drastic decline. ZERO innovation since the day Steve passed.
Critical thinking and asking "is this true" rather than just blindly believing would have led to a different outcome than the one we've experienced over the last almost 5 years
True, of course, but poor humans have never been good at that, we're adapted for literally the opposite of critical thinking. Don't be too harsh, humans are only animals, just cuz we've got smart brains don't mean we're not stupid. :)
Hey Steven, love the topics you cover but boy are your videos long. Could you make snippets of it and complete the cliffhangers in those smaller clips quickly? Honestly its taking a long time to get to the answers
"No matter how good the computers are, people are going to want to care about other people. The commentators who say there won't be any jobs in the future because of AI miss the point. We care a great deal about each other as human beings." Finally a tech guy who gets it, I'm impressed.
No, it's a tech guy who knows what people want to hear. A business head through and through. Had he actually cared, a lot of the interview would have gone differently.
I was at Novell when Eric was CEO for a short time as he moved from Sun to Google. None of us wondered why bc Novell was stodgy and weird and stuck in an old pricing model that was killing it. Went to Sun and the engineers were all ‘look at this cool search engine ‘ and off we went. AI is equally exciting. Just understand it and yes yes yes to critical thinking
Critical thinking! People shouldn't outsource that ability to any person or thing. I love that he started the talk by talking about critical thinking, good lord. Humans are adapted to the complete opposite, though.
I mean, *is* there evil? Most evil has been done by people thinking that they were fighting evil. Maybe evil is just delusion. Jesus and Buddha both talked about this, a *lot*.
@@effjesse_ You just proved his point, We have some idiots sitting behind desks at Google thinking they are fighting evil by hiding facts and truth on certain subjects, "Safe and effective" subject comes to mind as an example, Turns out it's not as safe as they thought, Some have been taken off the shelf and banned in my country, F Google!
It was a breath of fresh air hearing Eric on AI with his practical and plausible scenarios explanations. Working with the unknown but having the right spirit and intention. That could go the distance as far as our future coexistence with sentient beings are concerned.
Yes Moores law, will it still be relevant now we’re fully in the midst of AI. It’s all Fascinating and has the potential for good (mainly in medicine and diagnostics) but also for bad to which I’ve had so many hours discussions on it for the last 6/7 years and I now miss my old Dad watching this as the whole thing was his area.
Love your videos! They'd be even better if you chopped like 1:45 off the intro though! You're smart and I'm sure there's an algorithm driven reason... but dude!
This literally made me sick to my stomach. These people better build their machines because no normal human will have children any longer that will be controlled by machines. It’s been bad enough to live in a world where other humans controlled us. Tech people are literally crazy
But think about this: 1) We've never been ruled by humans, we've been ruled by *systems*, non-human entities, and we've been gaslit into equating those systems with humans, but that's false. 2) AI could level the playing field for us individual and familial and tribal human animal units, allowing us to finally operate and negotiate and act much closer to the level of power which states and corporations and institutions, which they currently wield against us, oppressively (by their very nature).
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#Isubscribed This was top 5 all time podcast. To the point, the conversation embodied what a podcast was intended in terms of providing such insight, prospective building. Well Done my brother. Absolutely beautiful gentleman, thank you!
What this man is saying, these thoughts... I bought the last X86 PC with Ryzen 5800h 2 years ago, and at the same time bought a tablet with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and a Google phone with the first Tensor chip. It was a conscious test because I knew what was coming... I use the two devices powered by Arm as my sole work devices, I sold the PC, it did its job and I want to say that it made me really flexible in my options, without such devices cies would not have been possible because nothing is more mobile and flexible to use, every notebook is still too bulky and inflexible. The most important realization was that this is the turning point, this is where I noticed how much better and more energy efficient the Arm systems have become, now we are reaching the finish line. It is only logical to focus on energy efficiency and economy, maximizing efficiency...
That pisses me off the most, who are they to decide what people like to do for work. I like some of those boring and repetitive jobs, To me THEIR crappy desk job is boring to me, Let's ban all those then? I bet they will throw a tantrum even more seeing as those jobs pay more.
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If someone knows how youtube or google really works please inform me so that i can prepare myself the next time..
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@@fastpastgonebye 😀🤩👍🏻
LOL! They're not viruses!
Do a reaction video on the movie Forbidden Planet it's a classic. Plus, there is a book
I disagree with the statement that Google became more moral over time. It's the opposite and the core products are getting worse too, starting with the SERP.
Agree! They stole VRINGO tech and paid zero for it.
Absolutely. Their original mantra was "Don't be Evil" and now they truly are.
If this guy calls the war criminal kissinger a friend I do not trust anything he has to say about morals
Agreed!
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Google’s original motto, “Don’t be evil,” held strong until it surpassed Yahoo in the search engine race. Today, a more fitting motto might be: “Reality is what we let you see.” It’s not just algorithms but also human decisions behind those algorithms that now shape the flow of knowledge-both in search results and AI responses. What surfaces is increasingly curated, with human-controlled algorithms setting the boundaries of accessible information, subtly steering public perception and defining our reality.
Spot on!
Sounds evil to me.
There is already an AGI claiming your consciousness.
Search results are like prison compared to what the internet used to be like. Remember when Google images actually scoured the internet for thousands of pages of images related to your query- magic!
Reality is always around you. Your choice to prioritize a digital simulation over reality is the reason Google could dictate your reality.
And the more chilling truth is Google has always been trying to do the right thing, and this is as good as it gets. Nobody can fathom how much information is around, and what suits you the best. More importantly, no universal truth for everything. YOU decide what's important, and your reality starts from there.
Please consider interviewing Julian Assange, Niall Ferguson, and Chris Hedges. Million thanks!
I somewhat feel sorry for Julian Assange. Entirely afraid of consequences that evading it was worse than the consequences themselves.
Agreed
When money is the motive corruption is inevitable
Perfectly stated! It affects any industry, any government, any individual. There is nothing wrong with the possession of and use of money. It’s useful and helpful and is benign unto itself. It’s when greed come in, the love of money above all else, including people is the root cause for corruption. For example, for profit hospitals. How can that be a good thing? We’ve already seen what for profit health insurance companies can do.
And money is the motive 😂
That's precisely why I never understood people getting surprised at corporations for making immoral choices...
@@GregoryAustin32"Power" is the root cause of corruption.
If money is your morale loadstone, you'll end up very lost in life's journey.
"Google has become moral over time".
OK, time to not take this guy seriously.
bingo!!
That is a sales reason, He is a coowner and cofounder basically.. but he is very informed and intelligent, and usually more honestly blunt than most of the OG googleers. I was here before google 2006, I know heh.
I think he's talking about with their work force. They use to work crazy hours and constantly innovating, they stopped all that, for having a comfortable workforce l. Less hours, work at home, it lost the drive of a start up company
States critical thinking skills over, and over, then jumps right into climate change. This interviewer is a complete shill, watch them try to make him the "Leftwing Rogan" 🤣🤣
Timestamp is 16:40
I don’t want AI being creative for me, I want it doing my housework.
AI does not give a shit about you unless you ask it to help you.
@@Hard-x9v no it still doesnt care about you, like for sure.
How about being creative while doing your homework. Creativity isn't only a talent. It's also hard work. Shortcuts are actually robbing you of the journey and the journey incorporates much of the life's meaning.
I don't want AI. End of. Or Google, come to that.
@@C_R_O_M________ s/he said housework...(cleaning etc.) I hate it too, rather be creative
Get Geoffrey Hinton on the show. He was chief scientist at Google, just won the Nobel Prize for physics, and is widely considered as the "Godfather of AI" by inventing deep learning neural networks.
Yes. Hinton's departure from the AI world feels like he's trying to avoid being the next Oppenheimer. Hinton is also fascinating because he's related to George Boole and their views are at direct odds with each other. Boole gravitated more towards causation/deductive reasoning whereas Hinton abandoned this in favor of searching for patterns/correlations in large sets.
Yes interview him ❤
This isn't the podcast for that caliber of an interviewee.
Yes please!!
Breaking into the Anglosphere how about Jürgen Schmidhuber..? The man that enabled all of you to get your spelling right 😉
There’s something deeply disturbing about the peole who are talking about abundance and progression and development in the digital realm while I haven’t seen 1 guy here on this podcast who ‘s working enthusiastically on solving climate change related issues, moving toward a sustainable agriculture model, healing an ecosystem not only people. Everybody is so freaking obsessed with AI while nobody gives a shit providing quality food and drinkable water to the human population. This guy I would never trust, when he talks about the “survival of human race” is just dust and ash… saying nothing for minutes, a little bit of blahblah about depression because it’s trending now and he has zero real solution. Not the AI needs to be unplugged but the humans need to be more independent from technology. What a twisted world we live in..
People can choose what they think they can make money in or want to do . If you want to do those things go do them.
Not to mention the massive amounts of energy it will take to run the data centers necessary for AI processing.
Energy=heat
Couldn’t agree with you more! And I’m growing tired of the negativity, no really grounded solutions. Let’s get back to basics, I feel this rhetoric whilst important is so overdone.
I think some of them are obsessed with AI because they believe it could lead to immortality or even elevate them to godlike status, with AI as their servants. Consider this: they’re incredibly wealthy-why would they ever want to leave such a life behind? Some people fear death and crave power and wealth. For them, AI represents a path to escape mortality and gain even more control and money. With such desires driving them, they push relentlessly for technological advancement, often without considering the wider impact on others or the planet.
I feel AI is only being used to replace people, aka free labor. It is quite sad because I see potentials for AI to be used for greater things such as analyzing genetic data to better understand genes, or creation of novelty medicines, analyzing and building a biological database for super easy species identification. We could identify how to modify food crops for more nutrition, more adaptability, etc. or identify plants for local food crops or medicinal use. There is research starting on lupines, a legume like beans as a food crop in the Americas. There is a crop lupine used in Europe and Australia, but the Americas has the highest density of Lupine species.
He is surely optimistic guy. What I see is people quitting social media realising how addicted they are, depression all time high, quitting corpo jobs realising how unsatisfying it is. Big companies including Google/Meta trying to put as many commercials as they can into 5 minutes content that users are genuinely tired of this and it's pointless to force themselves to stay. Everyone is super focused on earning money because life is expensive which is a rabbit hole because then price of everything gets higher. Startup companies are going bankrupt because they cannot outsmart AI, artists getting replaced by something smarter that can possibly produce more creative work in seconds but because people are aware of it now listening to music or watch art always raise a question was it made by humans or not? Shure AI will help when birthrate is so low with replacing many jobs but our generations and probably few next ones are done. You can see how it looks like with older generations right now. They cannot keep up to existing technology when now using technology to many things is basically default option. Life is becoming more and more meaningless for regular people and that's why this technology is not good. The laws to control it are not there and surely they will ask AI to write them. Now half of the people I know takes some prescriptions because they are depressed. My opinion is that internet and isolation are huge causes of it and you are telling me that AI will fix it? Also people who were studying for aprox. 5 years can be replaced so easily shortly and the solution is to adjust and learn new things? I think the first one to replace should be CEOs. Let's see what will happen. Who will manage better then a computer. xD If they are gambling on regular people lives they should be the one to reeducate and find other jobs to do.
wow. so true. i k ow many 20-30 years olds suffering g greatly, no friends, dont k ow how to interact w real ppl, afraid of their shadow, dating crazy weirdos on line and their constant companion is a cell phone. We are skyrocketing to oblivion. 😢
Very thoughtful and well said. I lived before the internet and we lived, were social and not socially isolated. But still creative and lived life.
@@nicolelouis8968 agreed, loved my early days chatting and socialising with a wide bunch of people in the pubs. Still have some over here now but the whole vibe is so different and you see people in their bubbles on their phones mainly instead.
It seems unlikely that a generation who was introduced to social media at birth or a generation that was introduced to social media in early adulthood will leave it for the world offline because it will affect their connections, socialization, communication and possibly self-identity.
If anyone thinks that all this "smart" tech will solve our problems you better get counselling and treatment soon. We're seeing the increased amount of energy necessary (wasted) to keep such systems running, climate change is real and nobody seems to care. People are getting more and more addicted to their devices, avoiding human contact, having everything delivered at their homes and forgetting about basic human skills. I hate that the world became so dependant on devices, networks and subscriptions to do basically anything. I miss the old days of driving or using public transportation to get to work, talking every day to people who didn't get offended at everything and actually paid attention to our words. Now they just scroll endlessly through hideous "content" by "influencers". What on earth happened to mankind?
Every day, these people convince me more an more to go live in the woods.
I do!
I subscribe to youtube premium fir NO ADS, so it’s really annoying when in the middle of these conversations you plug your own ads.
Agreed, drives me crazy. Same with Spotify. Maybe that's why 53% don't subscribe
Do they really think we're IDIOTS? In this softball interview...
1.
He conveniently sidestepped the most obvious AI danger - mass unemployment. The comparison to the industrial revolution is deeply flawed. Yes, when we automated physical labor, new mental jobs emerged. But now we're automating mental tasks too. What's left for humans to do? Nothing.
Let's be brutally honest about those "successful" historical transitions: they were devastating for the people who lived through them. Many died in poverty during these "great leaps forward." And guess what? We're those transitional people now.
2.
The millionaire fantasy is pure FICTION. He claims everyone will live like millionaires? Let's get real. How exactly will 8 BILLION people:
Live in mansions (with what land?)
Vacation on yachts, Fly private jets (creating what environmental impact?)
This isn't just optimistic - it's a dangerously misleading fairy tale. You can't solve finite resource problems with infinite promises. Even if we crack unlimited energy, we can't duplicate Earth itself.
3.
The uncomfortable question NO ONE is answering or asking ANYWHERE!
Here's the harsh truth:
we might create something close to utopia, but not for everyone. Why would those in power share their god-like capabilities with billions of "economically useless" people?
You missed out that climate change is absolutely true because science says so.
Yes those smiths that forged Horseshoe are out of job and have had terrible lives...
Those 400 000 women in USA who worked as telephone operators, connecting people who wanted to call each other had a terrible life...
Those typewriters who got replaced had a terrible life
Everyone now lives like a millionaire compared to a millionaires 50 years ago
And in 50 years ago, everyone will live like a millionaire nowadays
There will be widespread unemployment. All of his arguments are half-baked and deliberately incorrect.
You got it, when I hear a rich person say a job is to "Dangerous" or "Boring" for humans so its fine if a robot takes over, they can do what I suggest, and they personally never did the things they speak about,,, it makes me die a little inside.
The industrial revolution without robots took so many hand crafted skills super usefull to human survival. Now so many people dont know how to grow food, make tools, build things or even make our own clothing. Carpenters cant just make a chair if they have to compete with ikea prices and expect to pay rent. This dude just doesnt care that the more skills machines and robots do, takes away an intelligence in us that made us unique on this planet. In a sense, the machines already control us, have more rights and get more $ to live than a real skilled human being. Take industry and robots away and most of us would die out, we are subservient now.
Ask any wall mart employee or grocery store cashier how the utopian society is after they got replaced by a robot. The idea is such a phallacy perpetuated by ceo`s that just want all the money , property and ownership for themselfs. And like he said, they are already working on robot security guards to keep us pesants in check.
Would the billionares share the wealth to create a utopia... They already could be right now... Instead they parade the fact they made a extra 40 billion profits from tweaking there buisness plan. No freeking way will they share it... The funny part is, the robots will learn from us, and that will be the first thing a ceo will teach the general ai, how not to share. They of coarse wont realize the general ai is one because it will just be way smarter and creative then them and the billionares will get lumped into the same meat pits as us, by the new dominant specie, the robot. Teaching a robot to be kind to humans invalidates being a billionare, they must know this, if they dont its because there simply to narrisstic. Either way its very bad.
Can we do something we have never proved we can do before? Align the A.i with us? We have never aligned ourselfs with any other creature on the planet before. Weve got pets, that we treat as slaves with barely any rights, certainly not treeted as equals.. We have farms we raise things on to consume. The rest of nature just gets paved away. We dont have the capacity to be kind at a society scale to any life forms here, so why on earth do we even think there is a remote chance that we could teach the A.i to do so. Theres not even a chance imo that the robot wont end up like us just 100x crazier. We pave forests and flatten mountains because its safer and easier for the people not born yet. In all likely hood the robot will just pop the atmosphere and freze the salty oceans because it doesnt want its next generations to rust.
Maby general a.i will get compassion somehow. If it does, befriend someone who isnt a billionare, or even better, another specie thats not us, like a cow or bird. Expect total war in ways we cant even immagine. Like how we steam roll ants to put in a new freeway. We are now the ants.
Goggle will be taken out by AI . They have an ai that’s not as advanced ChatGPT.
He starts off by saying that Henry freaking psychopath Kissinger is one of his closest friends.
When you’re that successful, people lose the ability to read the room
I picked up on that too! WTF!! 😵💫
Yeah lost me there too!
Yep
I was like WTF
This is the same lunatic that's Building Killer drones
“Making the world better”, I guess if you are playing drone kill from a “secure office, drinking your coffee”…
Yeah I can't listen to rich greedy warmongers anymore.
Many people don’t know what kind of genocidal psychopath this Eric Schmidt guy is!
Starts with “Kissinger was one of my best friends” and its my flag to nope out of the episode.
I like your channel so much, so much value in these interviews.
At this moment I decided to watch all the interviews you have already posted. Thank you so much.
Use critical thinking. Who funds the fact checkers?
I explain that long ago... And proved it here with eli pariser did 2011
So smart, that your comment is stupid.
Reminds me of when I found out a bunch of Kurzgezagt videos are funded by a company owned by Bill Gates 😂
@@MrDoctorProfessorPatch that was such a let down.
The Coast Guard
Why are so many of these tech guys so confident when assessing the risks of ai? They must be secretly religious, lol. This guy literally said "if they start acting dangerous we'll just turn them off". But as Nick Bostrom said in his TED talk back in 2015 that's not necessarily possible. Like why haven't the chimpanzees flicked the off switch to humanity? The reason being that we're an intelligent adversary. We can see threats coming and plan around them. Also: where is the off switch to the internet? Wouldn't turning off the entire internet require almost all nations on earth to agree on the same decision? And when has that ever happened? And can it happen if perhaps more than half of the planet is being psychologically manipulated by a super intelligent agent? Probably not. And what about biology? Like how certain are we that Covid wasn't man made in order to disrupt supply chains in order for someone to get ahead in the ai arms race? (Given that AlphaFold was able to fold 200 million proteins in a year, which is equivalent to 1 billion years of human level Ph.d. work). This is not a game for children. This is serious stuff. And there's a lot they're not letting us in on, I can assure you that
The march and madness of man is inexorable! Strap in and enjoy the ride.
BTW, it's about 99.99 +/- 0.01% probable that Slovid was man made!
speaking of that show... 2011 Eli Pariser on that ted stage proved the big tech bias.... and shadow type banning... in 2011 😅
Eli Pariser ted is how this all works and debunks a lot of things he said here (a Ted from 2011!)
@@Skunk106 Actually the respected science is that it's likely 99% Zoonosis
The internet is on a half dozen server farms around the world. The cables and connections are just connections and cables. Its the server farms that take up hectares of land the makes up the internet. All they need to turn it off is to pull the breakers. on the other hand if they are dumb enough to make access to these farms completely automated by AI for security reasons we are screwed.
I know some hate it, but the first teaser minute determines whether I'll listen to the whole thing or not. And I'm definitely giving this a listen.
I was the opposite. I didn’t bother watching the rest after the opening.
One would be foolish not to listen to Eric. He's at the forefront of the future of mankind
It is good to listen such persons just to know what they are prepparing for us humans.
@@Gallowglass7 He also led the charge of a metaphorical brain washing experiment. Now the main stream News, Google search, TH-cam, and Wikipedia have became the most distrusted platforms in the world. The US elections were proof of that. Once you started telling us boys=girls and we aren't allowed to speak if we say otherwise, you lost grip on the market of "Truth".
A video with typical blah-blah about things already known.
Ok. At this point, this is prob the 3rd dope interview from you where you find insights that arent found elsewhere. This deserves a sub.
Ya, tappin out on this guy. Catch ya on the next one Steven.
100% with you. Schmidt is evil. And completely out of touch with reality.
Eric was CEO of Novell, which went nowhere, and then two guys from Stanford make him their chaperon. Guy makes my skin crawl.
I have also heard of him being a pedophile. Creepy
He comes across as a bit of an a-hole in all honesty.
Yeah he is. Google was backed up by CIA. Search it up!
Eric is a typical CEO snake. Living off the success of other people.
I remember Novell. Grew up on Netware, still miss it.
It's funny how they talk about solving problems but yet they don't slove the problems of freedom and not having to work for someone to live.
The ruling class is called the ruling class for a reason. Who do you rule if you give your minions true freedom. This AI s..t is what is being done to replace those minions. They've had enough of our happiness 😂😂
@@WhatIsRealAnymore 😆🤣👍👍
Yes, more CONTROL of us.
Thank you STEVEN for this conversation with ERIC 👍❤️
I'll believe AI makes life better for everyone when Google puts "Don't be Evil" back on its website.
We already have people that don't pay attention to the road when the car can drive for them so why should I expect someone to double-check a model's output at their job?
I don't know if the comment section is the most effective way to request a future guest, but I also don't know where else I'd do this, so I hope you see this Steven!
I would LOVE to see former NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg on here. He embodies the resilience, adaptability, and global perspective that this podcast often highlights, and I think his leadership journey could provide us with a powerful narrative on purpose-driven leadership.
"Even the founders don't rearlise how powerful what they have created is" - this will be the downfall of the human race
Maybe… hard to foresee such thing… I’m sure they see it now and may find a way or others that we’ll counteract the future problem of A.I. (IF it comes to that)
Yes, mythwaker, and That’s not to be taken for granted. Unfortunately, the % of humanity who can grasp it -is drastically low. The rest of us … buckle up 🎶 fasten up 🎶
It's basically the judgement day moment, you really think if connected to the Internet Ai will let you pull the plug. It won't matter what fail safes they have in place because human intelligence can only go so far, AI will be hugely more advanced and counteract it at every turn. So before they even know it AI will be outsmarting them imo.
He even said they have asked the governments to get involved as its so dangerous if handled wrong.
*OR* it will be the downfall of just civilization, and humans will finally be free of silly, oppressive things like money and states.
I almost never subscribe to anything ( you are second ever ) you pick most insightful guest. More importantly you ( not only have a good understanding of to ask “ on the button questions”) your approach in conducting the interview is in ( responsible sensible way ) be a benefit if your business model can continue on as you have built. (this project is in a sweet spot of happiness ) very well done. Cheers
OMG that's Skynet. Ha. SUCH an interesting interview. Great questions. Thanks for the effort!
💜 I'm feeling /thinking this guest is one of your Surprises
for Us.
I miss overhearing confos like this back in the 1980's 90's.
AI is black-box physics.. We do not actually understand the connections it makes.. Nor the outcomes.
That is why they made the Cern collider
This is false.
The basic idea of a black box is that we view it as an input-output machine, without considering its inner workings.
Note : This doesn’t necessarily imply that we don’t know what’s going on inside the box. We may have perfect information about everything that happens inside the box, but it may be so abstract that it’s impractical, or unnecessary, to try to understand it.
@@mudaa2312 so what it it then if it isnt a black box
@@Mus-fd2mb Its a point of comprehension.
We have a good grasp of the fundamental principles and algorithms behind AI, the complexity of modern AI systems, particularly large neural networks, makes it challenging to fully comprehend their internal workings in detail.
We also understand the algorithms and mathematical principles that form the basis of AI systems. Researchers and developers can see the code, read the research, and observe the results. The broad strokes of how AI works are well-documented and understood.
The challenge lies in the sheer scale and complexity of modern AI systems. For instance, large language models can have billions of parameters, making it extremely difficult to trace exactly why a particular output was generated1. This complexity is often likened to trying to decipher an enormous graph of millions of nested if-else statements with intricate interconnections.
You can do some research yourself and find out, that this "AI" is actually just a complex software, with lots of good use, but also a dozen of limitations. (Do not ever believe that LLM's, can feel, think, or be for themselves, if you do please look into how they are made.
@@Mus-fd2mbIs it nothing but an alibi for the people behind it to do whatever they want without getting punished. It's very easy but you guys tend to make it complicate
Great interview and program today, Steve. I really enjoy the whole show and all your questions.
It was one of the most important conversations I had the chance to listen to. Thank you very much for the opportunity to hear it.
Spot on. We haven't grown up ok. We wouldn't be in the mess we are in if we were ok
we are in this mess because of corporations, who are not held accountable for anything by our governments who are in bed with them.
congrats on 8 million subscribers!! best podcast on the planet.
Shows are always 🔥 fire!
Thank you for producing such informative and enlightening interviews. I am here for it 🦋
I’ve watched this channel for a while now and seeing the calibre of people you consistently have on the show is inspiring. Keep up the stellar work!
Loved this interview! Will send it to my 13 years old brother ❤❤❤
Awesome episode! It would be incredible to hear from Geoffrey Hinton on this topic-his take on AI safety would be so insightful
10:21 and that is the problem today. Questioning science is not allowed anymore in certain fields.
Absolutely. And the established science has agendas of outcomes, conflicts of interest and opportunists and profiteers everywhere. Scientists and the editor of BMJ have admitted this.
@@arniedee7251 Scientists aren't even allowed to question scientists anymore.
@partytimeproductions420 exactly
Bullshit the problem is stupid people thinking they know the answers. Stupid people need to stop being lazy and go and get the skills and experience they need to question. Nobody gives a shit about the opinions of weirdos. Keep them in your silly head. It just makes you look even dumber
@partytimeproductions420... questions are the whole basis of science , science is one big question , it's what science is all about and its how scientific theory comes about , questions being asked by one scientist to another
This man needs to come back! Great podcast!
Google is part of Alphabet. He basically never left.
The depth and clarity Steven brings to these complex topics elevate the conversation, making it not just informative but transformative. Truly a masterclass in interviewing brilliant work, Steven!
Not this time.
My fave podcast because you just listen you don’t make it about you it’s about your guest, we’re learning thank you
He got the ARM story wrong as ARM was a British company that developed the ARM processor in the 1980’s, I know as I programmed on the second batch of them (ARM2) used in the Acorn Archimedes in the late 80’s. Intel and ARM only alliance was that Intel once owned a lot of shares in ARM.
@@skylineuk1485 👍🏻 yep and back when I worked for Intel, then the whole company ethos started to shift hence lots of us went but that’s the nature of tech and I will always have a love hate relationship with it, just a bit hard from a humanity pov.
I think he meant that in the late 90's Intel abandoned the design of RISC CPU's (same computer architecture as ARM) and that was a terrible mistake because they couldn't scale down x86 (CISC) to fit the needs of mobile devices, etc...
Eric is talking about the Xscale RISC processor that Intel abandoned around 2005. It was a devastating error. At the time, people still referred to technology as “High Tech” because consumer tech was viewed as junky stuff. Not many recognized that consumer tech would ultimately evolve into the tail that wagged the dog.
8 million. I celebrate with you Steve.
He said he wanted to be on your show for a long time!! Of course he did. You have the most valuable channel on the internet
I feel special to be here before it really blows up.
easily the best podcast these guys have ever done. It has so so many nuggets, its structured really well, it is well grounded and relevant, deeply deeply insightful. I can criticize the editing, but this is so so brilliant in so many ways. Kudos to both the interviewee and interviewer
Steven wants MORE WEALTH 😂😂
I truly adore British accent and I was thaugh Br. English as a student of Linguistic University, however by the time I noticed that I sound more natural in American accent, like the muscles of my mouth cavity are more comfortable and thus confident with American accent... But often times Br. Accent pops up while speaking.... I think the main thing here is to make sure you are coprehendable and accurate ☺️
Australian accent.
Awesome interview with such an interesting person! Thank you!
We live in a world where people no longer question politicians, billionaires, and show host, but question scientists working independently, from every corner of the world, with different languages coming to the same conclusions. 10:33
Steven and Eric, Thank You Both for Sharing This Great, Very Interesting and 'Mind-Boggling' Conversation! It is Greatly Appreciated As Is Your Continued Great Work, Sharing With Us, ALL Interviews Youi have Had with Some of the Best Minds on The Planet!!! 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Fantastic channel and I subbed about a week ago. Keep the knowledge commin!
Great episode! I'm not in tech nor startup situation, but I learned a lot from the episode today. Thank you!
1:36:33 But who will be able to unplug it if like he described, there will be so much security around the servers of AI? (And likely controlled by AI security systems?)
H.A.L.
Polio was eliminated except for small batches of virus samples stored in labs around the world.
That is really great advice. You check what you hear and what you know. Thank you. You need to take this message to mainstream news
Valuable information here.
A great guest, thank you both for the efforts and time; was very exciting to watch. ☀💡🧿
Fantastic podcast kudos!
What a great conversation.
Everyone should have their very own AI/blockchain encrypted account. Individuals should decide who, what, how and when their personal data is shared. No more bottlenecked platforms controlling everyone’s data. It didn’t work and it’s all hacked.
I've thought the same thing. Everyone has a personal AI in charge of their shit, always a middleman between them and the man. It's not gonna collude, because... it doesn't care, it doesn't have any motivation besides what you'd give it. The danger is that people are sheep, so they might all accidentally collide anyway and oppress themselves... in fact, that's kinda what civilization is: humans turning themselves into domesticated livestock.
sat through from start to end, fantastic pod plenty to ponder and delve further...
Decency costs nothing. Google helps millions of people every day.. .
Does it really?
True.
lies
@@stephenwhite5444100%. Even if it was truly evil to the core, it 100% helps millions of people every day. That's why Eric started out by talking about critical thinking. It's not the tool, it's you. It's on you to be a critical thinker. Nobody can be a critical thinker for you but yourself. If you fail at that, then you're at the whim of every smart person or algorithm out there. Critical thinking plus Google equals incredible good; mindless sheep thinking plus Google equals incredible evil. It's that simple.
What a great interview
Yes. Think critically. Most people don’t dispute climate change. Because we think critically, we dispute what “the experts” claim as the cause of it. We have learned about the games played in these climate models, that leave out minor elements, like oh the Sun for example!
Exactly.
As a newcomer and a mother, I recently enrolled my child in Moonpreneur’s robotics classes, but I’m unsure if it was the right step. I’ve heard many people say robotics and AI are the future of education, and I’d love to know if these classes truly offer a strong career foundation.
I can't listen to a guy telling us to search for the truth on Google or shut up. Especially considering the platform has been proven multiple times to be biased and manipulated.
Yes I can't either. It's absurd he believes his own lies.
Tbh, that's why he started out talking about critical thinking. You live in a miraculous world, you have the information of the universe at your finger tips... but so does everybody else, including the people who wanna mislead you. If you're a critical thinker, though, and you're honest with yourself and others, it's the best time in the history of the human race to be alive. It's scary and overwhelming, and people are out to mislead you, but you also have more capability to empower yourself against that stupid bullshit than *anybody* has ever had, period.
your podcast is amazing! thank you so much for all that you do!
Google has become classist and completely evil. Adsense seriously underpays content creators. A complete rip off of the poor.
Scary! Great interview as always in the channel, but damn so scary statements
A.I definitely opens doors for endless crimes.
AGI opens the gates to hell. Only a few will survive the devil. Your integrity and your soul are at stake. Prepare your defense. You still have a chance.
Its already happening. It used to be called swindling.
If u head that way. You don't have to.
@@h.c4898 Yes but there are plenty of crazy misanthropes in the world 💀
Law opened the door for endless crimes. No law, no crimes. Solved your problem.
Amazing conversation, thank you 👍
What happens when we're all so dependent upon AI's knowledge bank information, there is no one is left to point out the inaccuracies?
We're already struggling with that in the political realm. Propaganda supreme!
Additionally, AI doesn't need to rely on subjective information (politics, art, culture) in order to function, perform tasks and transform our world.
@@musicandgallery-nature or read an analog clock or write in cursive?
Bro, he literally started the talk by discussing critical thinking. Without it, you're done in this world, you're just gonna get farmed, you're cattle. With it, the world is your oyster, fr.
Excellent interview, the development of technology and ai is one of the most significant things today.
Tim Crook is no match for Steve Jobs. Quality control across the board with Apple products has been on a drastic decline. ZERO innovation since the day Steve passed.
Negative innovation since imo.
@@GigaRants Agreed
Jibs was a creative genius. These guys are hired hands. In my opinion…
@@donviloche Yes, unfortunately.
Jobs was the sales guy... the genius hardware man and coder was the other guy at Apple. Please learn the topic.
Critical thinking and asking "is this true" rather than just blindly believing would have led to a different outcome than the one we've experienced over the last almost 5 years
True, of course, but poor humans have never been good at that, we're adapted for literally the opposite of critical thinking. Don't be too harsh, humans are only animals, just cuz we've got smart brains don't mean we're not stupid. :)
Hey Steven, love the topics you cover but boy are your videos long. Could you make snippets of it and complete the cliffhangers in those smaller clips quickly? Honestly its taking a long time to get to the answers
welcome to TH-cam. lol. You're basically asking him to make less money for you.
Phew, got that brain rot attention span goin' huh?
Corptocrocy can not solve the alignment issue or the control issue. They don't have the same moral alignment or goals of a human.
Fr!
brilliant interview as usual. learned soo much
Interesting to watch. Always a pleasure listening to Mr Schmidt. Welldone
Eric Schmidt is an amazing person. Brilliant. I love his experience with life.
"No matter how good the computers are, people are going to want to care about other people. The commentators who say there won't be any jobs in the future because of AI miss the point. We care a great deal about each other as human beings." Finally a tech guy who gets it, I'm impressed.
he was lying
@@kenneth_mirez It's completely real. He is speaking to a truth within us all.
@@kenneth_mirez Except for those who choose to deny it.
@ how do you explain hundreds of thousands of software engineers that got laid off and couldn't get software jobs?
No, it's a tech guy who knows what people want to hear. A business head through and through. Had he actually cared, a lot of the interview would have gone differently.
I was at Novell when Eric was CEO for a short time as he moved from Sun to Google. None of us wondered why bc Novell was stodgy and weird and stuck in an old pricing model that was killing it. Went to Sun and the engineers were all ‘look at this cool search engine ‘ and off we went. AI is equally exciting. Just understand it and yes yes yes to critical thinking
Critical thinking! People shouldn't outsource that ability to any person or thing. I love that he started the talk by talking about critical thinking, good lord. Humans are adapted to the complete opposite, though.
what ever happened to don't be evil?
This guy.
I mean, *is* there evil? Most evil has been done by people thinking that they were fighting evil. Maybe evil is just delusion. Jesus and Buddha both talked about this, a *lot*.
@@effjesse_ resentment is the source of most evil. follow the resentments
@@effjesse_ You just proved his point, We have some idiots sitting behind desks at Google thinking they are fighting evil by hiding facts and truth on certain subjects, "Safe and effective" subject comes to mind as an example, Turns out it's not as safe as they thought, Some have been taken off the shelf and banned in my country, F Google!
It was a breath of fresh air hearing Eric on AI with his practical and plausible scenarios explanations. Working with the unknown but having the right spirit and intention. That could go the distance as far as our future coexistence with sentient beings are concerned.
Yes Moores law, will it still be relevant now we’re fully in the midst of AI. It’s all Fascinating and has the potential for good (mainly in medicine and diagnostics) but also for bad to which I’ve had so many hours discussions on it for the last 6/7 years and I now miss my old Dad watching this as the whole thing was his area.
Love your videos! They'd be even better if you chopped like 1:45 off the intro though! You're smart and I'm sure there's an algorithm driven reason... but dude!
This literally made me sick to my stomach. These people better build their machines because no normal human will have children any longer that will be controlled by machines. It’s been bad enough to live in a world where other humans controlled us. Tech people are literally crazy
But think about this: 1) We've never been ruled by humans, we've been ruled by *systems*, non-human entities, and we've been gaslit into equating those systems with humans, but that's false. 2) AI could level the playing field for us individual and familial and tribal human animal units, allowing us to finally operate and negotiate and act much closer to the level of power which states and corporations and institutions, which they currently wield against us, oppressively (by their very nature).
Amazing interview
Climate change is real and normal but we can debate what causes contribute and whether we can change it. I don't think we know enough.
Really interesting conversation!
CFR/WEF/Bilderberger Eric Schmidt
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This dude is insane 😳
That's a understatement!!!
This guy is way too gaga over AI.
#Isubscribed
This was top 5 all time podcast. To the point, the conversation embodied what a podcast was intended in terms of providing such insight, prospective building. Well Done my brother. Absolutely beautiful gentleman, thank you!
The moral is. Do no evil.
What _is_ evil?
@@effjesse_ Don't kill, Don't lie, Google has done both without getting their hands dirty!
What this man is saying, these thoughts... I bought the last X86 PC with Ryzen 5800h 2 years ago, and at the same time bought a tablet with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and a Google phone with the first Tensor chip. It was a conscious test because I knew what was coming... I use the two devices powered by Arm as my sole work devices, I sold the PC, it did its job and I want to say that it made me really flexible in my options, without such devices cies would not have been possible because nothing is more mobile and flexible to use, every notebook is still too bulky and inflexible. The most important realization was that this is the turning point, this is where I noticed how much better and more energy efficient the Arm systems have become, now we are reaching the finish line. It is only logical to focus on energy efficiency and economy, maximizing efficiency...
Ai will replace repetitive and boring jobs? Hmm, how many artists now will start losing jobs who make websites and graphics
That pisses me off the most, who are they to decide what people like to do for work.
I like some of those boring and repetitive jobs, To me THEIR crappy desk job is boring to me, Let's ban all those then? I bet they will throw a tantrum even more seeing as those jobs pay more.
Nice editing. 👏