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    Watch the BBC first on iPlayer 👉 bbc.in/iPlayer-Home Daniel Gray, creator of a range of men's cosmetics, gives one Dragon a mini-makeover.
    The Den is one of the toughest places on earth to do business, and five fiery multimillionaire investors are ready to face a new batch of nervous entrepreneurs. Peter Jones, Deborah Meaden, Tej Lalvani and Sara Davies are joined in the famous chairs by former Dragon Theo Paphitis.
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  • @F1ntros
    @F1ntros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6383

    This guy was 100% prepared and nailed this pitch, pretty impressive.

    • @JoshF848
      @JoshF848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@thomasblethyn9639 he may have asked everyone but they didn't show it all.

    • @AutonovaAI
      @AutonovaAI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Thomas Blethyn he said he wanted two specific dragons and he got those two dragons, at a very good percentage. Don’t see anything wrong with that

    • @paintwithjonny5279
      @paintwithjonny5279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @FinPhillps Agreed! super impressive

    • @WarPaintForMen
      @WarPaintForMen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Thanks a lot - we think so too!

    • @jadex9733
      @jadex9733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      War Paint For Men hi

  • @jasongoodacre
    @jasongoodacre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2307

    That guy has serious balls to get Peter down to 6%. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him drop his second offer before.

    • @sjoerdo6988
      @sjoerdo6988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      His third even! from 10% to 7.5% to 7% to 6%

    • @garden4ork
      @garden4ork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      @@sjoerdo6988 His FIFTH! Original offer was 20% for all. Then 10% for half, followed by 7.5%, down to 7%, then 7% drop to 6% on investment return, and finally 6%!

    • @khansahib7110
      @khansahib7110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Peter Jones still the boss....

    • @cazz2006
      @cazz2006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Chango Chilemba That’s some story, how do you know he just didn’t want to lose 20% of his company that he’s put his life into for a bit of advertising?

    • @GrandMasterKai
      @GrandMasterKai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He had no balls to wear make up... A real man doesn't wear make up

  • @intrepidtomato
    @intrepidtomato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1333

    I love how they kept zooming in on Tej's under eye bags.

    • @StrobeFireStudios
      @StrobeFireStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I've got some Indian heritage and I'm almost like fully white, but my eyes have baaaaags too bro

    • @intrepidtomato
      @intrepidtomato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@StrobeFireStudios so do mine ( no Indian), I just thought it was a hate crime on poor Tej lol

    • @lepetitchat123
      @lepetitchat123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The war paint has done nothing to improve his appearance, honestly.

    • @nikhilcruz
      @nikhilcruz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@lepetitchat123 He didn't put anything on though.

    • @sujaysukumar123
      @sujaysukumar123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats an Indian thing

  • @TheInstitution
    @TheInstitution 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1264

    The name 'War Paint for Men' is very, very ingenious, it creates a soothing thought for men to put makeup into their faces while thinking about the ancient custom of war paint, it creates a fascinating dichotomy that without no doubt will work! ✴

    • @fainitesbarley2245
      @fainitesbarley2245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Brilliant name. Explanatory, humorous and self-deprecating all at once.

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Because it wipes away the girly aspect of this being a make-up. Instead he turns this into very macho, masculine sounding products.

    • @Immortal__
      @Immortal__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Honestly, I feel the opposite, I find it juvenile and cringeworthy. It shows absolute insecurity to try to dress men's makeup as anything but. Not a macho or masculine sounding product in the slightest.

    • @SirCanuckelhead
      @SirCanuckelhead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@Immortal__ The target for it is more manly men who would not wear makeup. The guy is right when he said the major female companies would have a harder time breaking in because well they are women's make up, men are funny but we are what we are.

    • @squodge
      @squodge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@SirCanuckelhead - I agree. And I think it's a similar story when you look at things like razors... they make them in pink and lilac to sell to women, so obviously the market is very different for men and women. The name is crucial - one brand of women's razor is called Venus, which sounds lovely to women compared to "Gillette Triple Action close-shave razor" which would appeal more to men.

  • @mattyoxborough3424
    @mattyoxborough3424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2885

    Best negotiation ever seen he knew they wanted that

    • @ItsThatVogue
      @ItsThatVogue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      12:40 don't tell Peter and Tej that you want them after asking them to come down on their percentage, that's just improving their bargaining position, he got lucky they let him get away with that

    • @jim7771
      @jim7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      He isn’t negotiating procurement, he’s negotiating an investment/partnership, two very different dynamics. Both guys have a reputation to uphold, if he hadn’t said what he did, it would look as if he was screwing them down on the % over and over, and they were just passively accepting it. He was smart enough to compliment them, and solidify their standing and reputation, while asking for another drop down, so that they could do it without losing face. Business in many ways should be purely numbers, but it really isn’t, even if both of them were happy at a certain %, if they were forced into a position where agreeing could cast them in a light that made them look weak, passive and easy to exploit, they would have to reject it. The entrepreneur wouldn’t have succeeded with that last push without it.

    • @WarPaintForMen
      @WarPaintForMen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      🙌

    • @jed_91
      @jed_91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WarPaintForMen gd job keep up your goal the people who will need this brand will be manny

    • @variszarins
      @variszarins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      War Paint For Men Balls of steel my friend. Well done

  • @DarkCreed
    @DarkCreed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2098

    I shat my pants when he started lowering the percentage. But he nailed it, 20 down to 12 is impressive.

    • @WarPaintForMen
      @WarPaintForMen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Sometimes ya gotta risk it to win it!

    • @darryl2542
      @darryl2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Seriously, I'm still in shock over how this went. Good on him.

    • @dingdingdingdiiiiing
      @dingdingdingdiiiiing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      If this in unscripted and real, it's seriously impressive. Hats of to the entrepreneur.

    • @BigWes95
      @BigWes95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      A lot easier to negotiate when there's 5 offers on the table

    • @yellowjacket5995
      @yellowjacket5995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Even if you don't get an offer, Theo The *Fetus* will award you with 1 human fetus as a consolation prize.

  • @omorabedin3648
    @omorabedin3648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1172

    No one literally no one:
    Tukkar: OFFICES IN LONDON

    • @PaulieGualtieri162
      @PaulieGualtieri162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      omor abedin nah I’m dead that has made my day

    • @bull3t209
      @bull3t209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂 that’s great

    • @takfak6212
      @takfak6212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahahaha

    • @hugoroberts6064
      @hugoroberts6064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Best comment so far.
      Rent Free for one year.

    • @shaunlindfield7247
      @shaunlindfield7247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can someone please let me know what this is about

  • @foraquid
    @foraquid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +978

    I love how this show didn't belittle this man's BDD and make it into a "feel sorry for me" section with soft music which transitions to the "uplifting" major scale just before his actual pitch. His problems and his overcoming of them were part of his pitch and part of his business, presented in a way that was respectful and interesting - thank you for not editing this like Americans would have done.

    • @smiglo112
      @smiglo112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Too bad the media still managed to turn it into "toxic masculinity", sexism in general and I've even seen a tweet saying something about the brand being made out of "contempt to women"...
      At least BBC had some respect to the man and I applaud both them AND the dude in question for dealing with all of that in such a professional manner even if he was, very likely, scared shitless going into the den.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree. Impressive when people are honest about problems, but we all have them, and we definitely don't need background music for them. Although if it was in a modal scale it would at least be interesting and poignantly tragically neutral.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@smiglo112 yes, this identity politics division is wasting a lot of energy that would be better spent putting financial crisis criminals in prison.

    • @jamesarrendell9517
      @jamesarrendell9517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Seriously, I’m an American and I’ve started to watch this more than shark tank because it is far more serious and feels more authentic. If there is a sad story it’s never used like a sob story and overdone. They pay their respects and recognize the issue but still treat the entrepreneur like an adult and like an equal rather than a child.

    • @Viktir123
      @Viktir123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm an American and you're totally right, we do play upon emotions. But, due to your harsh comments about us, I will no longer be chatting with you due to the harm you have brought upon our name... so I'm out.

  • @viper2413
    @viper2413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2192

    Damn, Jenny would’ve loved that free sample

  • @spreadthelove77
    @spreadthelove77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1109

    The guy held his nerve and negotiated brilliantly.
    Thought he was pricing himself out, but he got there. Good on him.

    • @andrewvelonis5940
      @andrewvelonis5940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought he was annoying, but he pulled it off, so I guess we have to give him his props.

    • @stupidtreehugger
      @stupidtreehugger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. I'm just sad he didn't take all five of them. They all so clearly wanted him. Would have been an orgy of investing and door opening. Instead now he gets 3 angry soon to be competitors

    • @MikeCOYS
      @MikeCOYS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it really depends on the product. They know the product was going to be big so they're making money either way and if they back out they'll lose out on the money - which is a bad move for an investor of such high potential product.

    • @lizzie17214
      @lizzie17214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewvelonis5940 I don’t understand how you thought he was annoying at all you sound jealous tbh

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewvelonis5940 with you

  • @kind-hearted-thievesjoe1512
    @kind-hearted-thievesjoe1512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    From trembling bullied child to dragon haggler, the guy is inspirational. It almost brings tears to my eyes how brave this pitch was and how much he has accomplished.

  • @angelinasouren
    @angelinasouren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    I love it when someone comes in and the Dragons end up having to sell themselves!

    • @criptik5208
      @criptik5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sell themself ? What does that meam ?

    • @angelinasouren
      @angelinasouren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@criptik5208 It means presenting themselves as well as possible so that the person chooses them and not the other Dragons. Usually, it is the other way around.

  • @geooooooo
    @geooooooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2145

    I am a small, round green vegetable, traditionally eaten at Christmas, and for that reason I'm sprout

    • @jevdawg
      @jevdawg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @sarahj6513
      @sarahj6513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I love you

    • @BuzzMeme
      @BuzzMeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Smells a bit fishy to me and for that reason I'm trout

    • @sjoerdo6988
      @sjoerdo6988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I make a lot of noise and for that reason I'm loud

    • @tomfletcher7615
      @tomfletcher7615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Sjoerdo that one was shit

  • @C-qc657
    @C-qc657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    Anyone thinking of going on Dragons' Den should use this as their tutorial

    • @mrshab
      @mrshab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Not really. You need a solid business with solid turnovers and huge potential for the dragons to drop down like that

    • @zakgulaid9364
      @zakgulaid9364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@savidge8854 But the presentation wouldn't have worked if he didn't have the business to back up his claims.

    • @C00kii0
      @C00kii0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly, have all your basis COVERED

    • @killler240
      @killler240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They let rubbish people too because this is TV

    • @S0UNDWAVE
      @S0UNDWAVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C00kii0 *bases

  • @arreng2364
    @arreng2364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    "a brand for men, run by men"
    ...what a savage comment by peter hahaha

    • @mareksumguy1887
      @mareksumguy1887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      michael gervacio is that the brainwashed idiot feminist in you talking?

    • @fox2569
      @fox2569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It makes sense from a marketing perspective tbh

    • @aikikaname6508
      @aikikaname6508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shots fired in the vicinity of Deborah 😂

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well er yes, a mens product made by men...surprised?

    • @squodge
      @squodge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And Theo still had a pop at Peter for it (just shows you how much he hates Peter).
      If it was a women's product and Deborah said, "a brand for women, run by women", no one would even dare say a word against it.
      It goes to show that sexism is only considered wrong when it's women who are targeted... no bigotry there lol

  • @jdfj100
    @jdfj100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    That was an amazing negotiation. From both initially wanting 20% each to then get it down to 6% each in a joint offer. Brilliant.

    • @deanomcevoy
      @deanomcevoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Klopp's Teeth they split the money so it was 10% each down to 6% still very impressive! I wonder how this business is doing now ?

    • @MR-tx7ig
      @MR-tx7ig 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Klopps teeth Haha brilliant nickname lol

  • @ezearinze2596
    @ezearinze2596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +714

    Sarah has brought back competition in the den. Peter Jones now 'makes up his mind' so quickly 😂😂😂

    • @PS-Straya_M8
      @PS-Straya_M8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I agree, unfortunately Peter Jones has forgotten his roots and has become safe and lazy!

    • @Isa-qh3ue
      @Isa-qh3ue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve always thought that peter doesn’t like Sara but I think off camera they’re okay with each other

    • @jackd9928
      @jackd9928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Isa-qh3ue Always? lol it's only been 5 minutes.

    • @Isa-qh3ue
      @Isa-qh3ue 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack D haha I worded it wrong you know what I mean

    • @koek1122
      @koek1122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Producers to jenny: "you're out"
      jenny: and for that reason... im in
      producers: nopes
      jenny: im out.

  • @djog7264
    @djog7264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +741

    He is actually a genius. How did he manage to just bring the dragons to their knees like that

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because he's fit

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Fit man with a make up brand will make the gays go crazy whether other "manly" men buy it or not, it will make money that's why they like him.

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @Jamie not really if his product wasn't as good as it is he'd of come across cocky, but it is good, so he didn't.

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Fit and got a good back story always helps, but he’s also got a good product and a market for it, and he’s done his research and got his product refined _and_ guarded via trademark, I mean some guys arrive with the bare bones of an idea, this guy’s done some hard work fully fleshing it out and is polite and ready for this opportunity.

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lumibear. oh yeah I'm not saying he didn't deserve the investment he totally did, I was just stating the obvious AND he can use his own face to model the make up = more money

  • @waynecashello6503
    @waynecashello6503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    Peter Jones makes a offer they all want in. He's so the boss. He pulls out they all want out

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Not Deborah. She thinks independently and made offers numerous times when Peter was out.

    • @ArchieZeroOne
      @ArchieZeroOne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@Uouttooo Yeah, more accurately it seems Deborah and Peter are the King and Queen of the den.

    • @lepetitchat123
      @lepetitchat123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Proves that the Dragons are just herds without independent thinking skills.

    • @ArchZadkiel
      @ArchZadkiel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Toukar has often made offers when Peter or even all other dragons have pulled out.
      But agree with @ArchieZeroOne that Peter and Deborah are king and queen of the den

    • @00Kuja00
      @00Kuja00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don't underestimate the power of Jenny's " I'm out" too.

  • @august4633
    @august4633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Everything about his presentation was on point: the pitch, the product, the brand, his answers, the negotiation. Very impressive.

  • @lolli4788
    @lolli4788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    Suffers from body dysmorphia but is one of the most attractive and well spoken people I've seen

    • @zm-cartel
      @zm-cartel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Im abit round but im very polite aswell

    • @AVRDXB
      @AVRDXB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He's caked in makeup you bell. x

    • @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey
      @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The guy's wearing a shit ton of makeup. Bet you wouldnt say the same if he you saw him without all that crap on his face

    • @connief_27
      @connief_27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Just because he is attractive doesn’t mean he can’t have body dysmorphia. It affects all sorts of people.

    • @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey
      @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@connief_27 Thats got nothing to do with what I said

  • @mylesbowman4718
    @mylesbowman4718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +567

    Very impressive pitch and negotiating. Hope the fella does well with this!

    • @ChrisChanningChannel
      @ChrisChanningChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I kept thinking he was going to lose it! ... "ai ai ai ... Don't lose this for a few percent!"

    • @BroncosHQcom
      @BroncosHQcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It doesn't look like the company is going to be in business for much longer. It's being torn apart all over the internet and the financial information I've been able to find is very bad.

    • @bijikedelai
      @bijikedelai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah but sadly the deal fell through and He decided to secure the fund from elsewhere

  • @highroller9154
    @highroller9154 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    That negotiation was so well played. So many people would crumble under the pressure but he actually stuck it down, what a guy

  • @wartanabadanooh7157
    @wartanabadanooh7157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    He's such likeable lad, wish him all the best.

  • @DonnyStorm
    @DonnyStorm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    Just googled how tall Peter is and i didnt expect 6’7, Jesus

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Jesus wasn't 6'7. But Peter Jones is.
      😆

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @THE ENLIGHTENED ONE Penister Mojones

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @THE ENLIGHTENED ONE Penister = Penis Peter, Mojones = Mojo Jones

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @THE ENLIGHTENED ONE shocking. I'm surprised that my comments have still remained!

    • @ZERO_Zero0
      @ZERO_Zero0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      6'6 i think

  • @man-on-the-tube
    @man-on-the-tube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    He can prob afford the last 6% of those trousers now 😂

    • @vincelestrade3758
      @vincelestrade3758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’ve seen so many young Brits do that lately. I guess it’s a trend? I’m not really that privy on the male fashion industry in GB.

    • @plek3431
      @plek3431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ok boomer

    • @zzillla
      @zzillla 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dweebology Baaaaaa

    • @ilsejackson1068
      @ilsejackson1068 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @iranicus3393
      @iranicus3393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh come off it :3

  • @sl2815
    @sl2815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    That was an amazing negotiation, really shows his confidence in his brand and product and knows what he's worth. Having the guts to stand his ground in front of all the dragons is mind blowing. Well done.

  • @12Prophet
    @12Prophet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Dude straight up stonewalled the moment and got the dragons to submit. Mighty impressive.

  • @BrianHazardVideos
    @BrianHazardVideos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Maybe the best, most successful negotiating I've ever seen in the den.

    • @doctorpanigrahi9975
      @doctorpanigrahi9975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An online billing company made Tej agree to give out 60,000 pounds for a mere 1.5% of equity. You need to have a very healthy growth rate with high margin of profitability to make something like that to happen.

    • @TheJohnCooperShow
      @TheJohnCooperShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should look up anyway spray

    • @BrianHazardVideos
      @BrianHazardVideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheJohnCooperShow indeed. That one was pretty impressive.

  • @Luna-xr3dk
    @Luna-xr3dk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    What Peter to make an offer first?
    I've just had a heart attack

  • @irp2283
    @irp2283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I love when Peter says ‘well negotiated’.

  • @borischan5252
    @borischan5252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    this guy went to war and won, he is a dragon slayer

  • @timotot123
    @timotot123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Can't recall seeing an entrepreneur really stick to his guns and come away with a great result. It would've been the real potential of the brand that made it not worth throwing away over 1%

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need a great product with massive potential and proven sales in order to do that. Anything less and they will just say, "I am out."

  • @hamzahassan7851
    @hamzahassan7851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    Tej 'tell me about yourself' levani..

    • @hamzahassan7851
      @hamzahassan7851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Well I'm 18 and I started the company when I was 32. First year, gross profit of £200,000, net loss of ¥128,000.213
      Second and third years...I don't have those figures.... I'm sorry.
      Can I talk to the wall?

    • @javadayaz
      @javadayaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tej is wearing a wig right?

    • @hamzahassan7851
      @hamzahassan7851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@javadayaz transplant ?

    • @javadayaz
      @javadayaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hamzahassan7851 definitely looks like it!

    • @craigconnell8234
      @craigconnell8234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@javadayaz abdullah

  • @evo5dave
    @evo5dave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    This guy was brilliant. And as someone who has suffered from acne for 30 years, I'm glad the need for male cover-up is finally recognised.

    • @tinderella2386
      @tinderella2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was so stupid and so lame. If you have persistent acne still go on accutane. You’ll never get acne again after a 6-9month cycle. And for any old acne scarring get collagen induction therapy like derma rolling or micro needling as well as fraxel laser resurfacing and actually Get Rid of the issue and have healthy skin instead of wearing makeup like a woman.
      Pathetic.

    • @evo5dave
      @evo5dave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tinderella2386 Ah a medically qualified troglodyte I see. Roaccutane is not a permanent fix - the improvements often wear off after a few years: they did with me. It also has awful side effects and cannot be prescribed by a GP. And having collagen treatments isn't somehow being 'like a woman' but makeup is... Someone has issues.

    • @tinderella2386
      @tinderella2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So anyone criticises the fact you’re a man wearing makeup and I’m an internet expert ‘troglodyte’??
      The effects of accutane are permanent. You just needed to run another course. But it’s well known that they can permanently stop acne coming back and bodybuilders and big time steroid users use it and have permanent acne suppression.
      And also, yes, collagen induction therapy, which you obviously don’t even know what it is is far FAR less feminine and pathetic then wearing makeup.
      You can buy your own dermapen and do it yourself at home, and it’s a form of micro needling that creates thousands of micro trauma to the skin and induces it to promote more collagen. And it genuinely works for scarring and stretch marks and is the Only thing that does so. I had a few stretch marks from when my mental health was really poor and stacked on a bunch of weight, and did it on my stretch marks and it completely cured them. Or perhaps according to you it would have been better and more masculine to put some makeup on them?
      I would call an effective permanent solution to a skin issue with real efficacy just sensible. I would call being insecure about it and wearing makeup pathetic.
      And I wasn’t even trolling you and actually gave you some real world unbiased advice, but no no, you go keep wearing your makeup.
      Perhaps you can find a handbag to put it in when you go out.

    • @evo5dave
      @evo5dave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@tinderella2386 I doubt there's many people who care what you think is feminine or pathetic.

    • @markchinguz4401
      @markchinguz4401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try nøie. That shit worked for me

  • @sophiawatson1970
    @sophiawatson1970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    He was gorgeous, his face lit up when he smiled. Mental health challenges are ruthless! So glad he got a deal with a flawless pitch! 🙂

    • @jamiejosh96
      @jamiejosh96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s a shame because it’s the wrong approach, he should have received help to accept the way he is… not to further the need for perfection. It’s a terrible idea, women already can’t leave the house without makeup due to the unrealistic standard set by widespread makeup use…. This will do the exact same with me if it will take off. Which it won’t, most men know it’s more attractive to look rugid, not pretty

    • @box5414
      @box5414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamiejosh96 based

  • @iamkaransethi
    @iamkaransethi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This is the smoothest pitch I've ever seen on Dragons Den! 👏👏👏

  • @rayhanreacts
    @rayhanreacts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    if Touker was here , he would have offered some office space 😂

    • @ayb100
      @ayb100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Touker really tries hard to get rid off the office on the Edgeware Road :) hahahahaha

    • @daisiesofdoom
      @daisiesofdoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Duncan would sa, that he cannae invest, so hes oot

  • @lynkwhat
    @lynkwhat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I hear “pizza jones” every time he mentions peter

    • @abbiepup
      @abbiepup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      glad im not the only person who hears this lmfao

    • @lynkwhat
      @lynkwhat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abbiepup 🤣😂

    • @dotzdemon
      @dotzdemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Turn on subtitles 😂

    • @thegovernmenthatesyou7831
      @thegovernmenthatesyou7831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'll prolly see it on the subtitles too

    • @aboutaljon
      @aboutaljon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha

  • @eddyram4932
    @eddyram4932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I been watching these nonstop for almost 5 days now, this has bee the most solid product to come up. Hats off the the dude, and hope he does great.

  • @mashupjoe4605
    @mashupjoe4605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I’m so proud of him and I don’t even know him. Well done 👏🏼

  • @jackmermigas9465
    @jackmermigas9465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    First time I've seen Peter humbled. Brilliant negotiation!

    • @bradz5285
      @bradz5285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      absolutely mind blowing

  • @stahppls2293
    @stahppls2293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "Can I see before you've done it---OH!"
    I love Deborah

    • @TrevorParsnips
      @TrevorParsnips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You love her? Well stear clear you bloviating nincumpoop, she's married ffs...

  • @MegaReveiws
    @MegaReveiws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    "I've been suffering with body dysmorphia since 15"
    Jenny "I'm Out"

    • @cathyhanson548
      @cathyhanson548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love how this show didn't belittle this man's BDD and make it into a "feel sorry for me" section with soft music which transitions to the "uplifting" major scale just before his actual pitch. His problems and his overcoming of them were part of his pitch and part of his business, presented in a way that was respectful and interesting - thank you for not editing this like Americans would have done.

    • @dickbuttvlogs
      @dickbuttvlogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @GeorgeAusters
    @GeorgeAusters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Why didn't they ask "WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU HAVE A £1,000,000 COMPANY???????!"

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How do you know they didn't?

    • @shahidmirza150
      @shahidmirza150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For 70k they will make allot more with a good brand and a chap with his head screwed on, no brainer for investors

    • @ToxicatedLum
      @ToxicatedLum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      because there are 5 companies offering male make up that are formerly known for offering female make up.... and a current cap of 60b that is set to increase by 50% - all of their videos are 14mins long at max and have obviously been edited down. What are you insinuating? Other than the fact that you clearly can't retain information in a 15 minute window or use critical thinking?

    • @ncoladear
      @ncoladear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apparently the company has had a lot of backlash and negative reviews

    • @romaingay-crosier7694
      @romaingay-crosier7694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToxicatedLum Well, that never was a reason that stopped them in the past, was it?. its a valid point and totally unusual they didnt leave the parts where they talked about the company's real numbers. Hes got to be hemorrhaging cash since inception with all the design and legal battle involved for the trademark. It just goes to show that they keep what will help the companies dragons invest in and hide the not so glorious parts... and they trash the ones that dont get any investments to satisfy the audience love of "blood". This show is getting close to the american one, its becoming a trap for the inventors.

  • @juandocuc
    @juandocuc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I have never seen Peter Jones relent like that during negotiations. This guy is serious!

  • @memento81
    @memento81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow, starting of with a genuine bit of backstory into a perfect business pitch and standing his ground in a tough but never combative negotiation to finally get two dragons down by 40% (from 20 to 12 percentage points) of what they were willing to offer initially. This guy is exceptional.

  • @hestinurlestari6729
    @hestinurlestari6729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow, mindblowing.
    One of the best pitch ever.
    He got the dragons not only make offers but futhermore got them lower their share & share it. Simply brilliant.

  • @dansari0007
    @dansari0007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I’ve suffered from insecurity and body dysmorphia so this really resonates with me
    **Update: I’ve now bought War Paint for Men’s concealer and I can confirm it’s a quality product, as good as Tom Ford for Men** 😊

    • @majesty9985
      @majesty9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I bet you're stunning too though.

    • @starb0rn
      @starb0rn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's what inside that counts remember Daniel, but I bet you're gorgeous! Everyone's beautiful to someone :)

  • @streamsofconsciousness8651
    @streamsofconsciousness8651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This guy was incredibly impressive. His pitch, his product, his negotiation, I don't think I've ever seen a better performer in the Den. I've alos seen his product promotions all over facebook, he has the name out there.

    • @robertjusic9097
      @robertjusic9097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was a dude that was promoting leather bags, he had balls of steel

  • @catjack90
    @catjack90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the most impressive entrepreneur I've seen here with his negotiation skills and absolute confidence in his business, massive respect for the guy. And for someone who said that he suffers with confidence issues related to his self-image, he sure has balls of steel, negotiating with Peter and Tej like that, total legend.

  • @Regan16
    @Regan16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    If tuuka was here he would have offered him 20% and an office in London

  • @adiiqbal8010
    @adiiqbal8010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    This guys pitch was good, even Jenny wouldn't have been out!

    • @clevesimiyu9590
      @clevesimiyu9590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      That is where you go wrong my friend. I once saw an episode where she literally said "This is too good to be true so I'm out". Broke she is that one.

    • @KsdmNeo
      @KsdmNeo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jenny: The product and pitch was amazing and for that reason I’m out

    • @Stinking82
      @Stinking82 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok lets not go that far now. That's just crazy talk. I recently saw Australian Shark tank video where a man offered 25% of his company for $1. I doubt Jenny would have invested there even.

    • @Michael.Scott.420
      @Michael.Scott.420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AgileKhan just seen your reply and searched up the vid. th-cam.com/video/vv98ZrEtzfs/w-d-xo.html

    • @dotexe4981
      @dotexe4981 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's not exaggerate

  • @hamzazaman3224
    @hamzazaman3224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Theo is back. Finally! Just need banantyne back

    • @mickobee
      @mickobee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He's just filling in for a bit

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Hot take, I prefer Touker

    • @carolburke9153
      @carolburke9153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mickobee because jenny's out...

    • @jlistergaming7880
      @jlistergaming7880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carol Burke no it’s just for 2 episodes because touker was away

    • @carolburke9153
      @carolburke9153 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jlistergaming7880 look forwård too touker arriving back.

  • @colourfulmarshal8544
    @colourfulmarshal8544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was dead worried for him then at the end lol

  • @DharyaGolu
    @DharyaGolu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Best counter to the dragons I've seen so get. Brilliant. Dan the Man!

  • @cr5678
    @cr5678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very risky to tell an investor that you specifically want them since they can then control the negotiation. But damn he did well to bring it down to that price

  • @moreshi6017
    @moreshi6017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Am I the only one who found it weird that the dragons didn’t ask for any specific numbers like they usually do? Revenue/GP/NP?

    • @nt7863
      @nt7863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mo Reshi I thought that too. No financial info at all

    • @nl1559
      @nl1559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Either it was edited out or this whole pitch was set up to tell a positive story. Fair play to the guy, he's done really well, but the whole thing is edited so heavily that it looks like it was set up from the start...

    • @KK-fs6hg
      @KK-fs6hg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well spotted

    • @Whiplashed
      @Whiplashed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Usually their grilled for at least an hour. Just edited out

    • @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey
      @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think all i heard was that his revenue was 200k

  • @deborahdennehy9937
    @deborahdennehy9937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guy was amazing, so cunning & clever how he worked out his finance. Well done to you!

  • @beanacomputer
    @beanacomputer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn this guy killed it. I wouldn't mind giving some of his products a try. I love how he managed to snag that trademark; he could easily capitalize on the fact that it is a common name for makeup and branch out into women's as well down the line if they ever so choose. And his negotiating was spot-on, trying to talk them down without being pushy or presumptuous. I still can't believe he actually talked Peter down like that.

  • @KarrierBag
    @KarrierBag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Bloody top man, i take my hat off to him.

    • @CalmDownMyDear
      @CalmDownMyDear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      he screams toxic masculinity with this project yet talks confidently about problems with body issues, you can’t do both lol he’s funded a product that contributes to his pain

  • @ItsThatVogue
    @ItsThatVogue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Peter made an offer without even knowing what the guy would do with the money

  • @AvelinoSilvaGuerrero
    @AvelinoSilvaGuerrero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy and his business model is by far the best negotiation I've seen by far

  • @pumpernickel4429
    @pumpernickel4429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This guy was absolutely amazing. Now think about Fredy Vasilev and his Bathomatic business.

  • @fadia1hatu282
    @fadia1hatu282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    They needed an episode where all five dragons made offers, so they got rid of jenny

  • @thebastardgift
    @thebastardgift 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    What a beautiful problem, all dragons want to invest.

  • @SickGummyZombie
    @SickGummyZombie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    probably the best entrepreneur that has been on this show ever.

    • @tinderella2386
      @tinderella2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except with the most garbage and stupid product and most ridiculous business concept - men wearing makeup.

  • @hilaryc3203
    @hilaryc3203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So nice to see a young business person with this much savvy and skills.

  • @kayjay12341
    @kayjay12341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Chuffed for this dude. I wish him the absolute best. I hope I see this brand in department stores very soon

    • @CalmDownMyDear
      @CalmDownMyDear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kay Jay it failed miserably because the branding is disgusting, how are you not getting that?

    • @raalaa121
      @raalaa121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CalmDownMyDear It's in Suprdrug

  • @charlottebruce979
    @charlottebruce979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    How on earth did he get bullied for his looks? he's gorgeous, must have been jealousy.

    • @splifffy5406
      @splifffy5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He has 2 tons of makeup on.

    • @vincelestrade3758
      @vincelestrade3758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Bullying is really indiscriminate I have found. The only way to avoid it at a young age is to relent to the bullies, adopting their friend groups, manners and customs as your own.

    • @mau5pilot854
      @mau5pilot854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vince Lestrade or like me, go to the dojo and smash the biggest one’s face in.

    • @vincelestrade3758
      @vincelestrade3758 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sean Mustang That’s what they tell you to do in prison.

    • @jadex9733
      @jadex9733 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      CS:GO Frags/clips wow so many jealous people on here

  • @Derek.Joseph
    @Derek.Joseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the most well polished and well executed pitches I've seen. He showed vulnerability and on top of that, his brand actually does stand out as a more 'masculine' appeal for men.

  • @Barberdon2022
    @Barberdon2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    100% best one I’ve ever seen he had the dragons in his hand the whole time and the dragons didn’t mind one bit 👍

  • @dclark4422
    @dclark4422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Outstanding. I can relate to this man because of what he went through. More power to him!!!

    • @andrewvelonis5940
      @andrewvelonis5940 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Undoctrinated I respectfully disagree: He wasn't using his shortcomings as a form of currency, or using a sob story for leverage, or making a victim of himself. I saw it as a success story. This guy had a problem (though I couldn't understand what he said about that) and he found a way to overcome it and in the process realized there was an avenue for profit. That's capitalism. I doubt that the dragons would have offered to invest on the basis of feeling sorry for the guy, they invest because they see profit. That profit has nothing to do with how the product line came about, the profit comes from market availability: potential customers aren't going to buy because they feel sorry for the founder of the company, they are going to buy because they want what the company has to offer.

  • @ryanbell4952
    @ryanbell4952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guy will make it BIG. He knows exactly what he wants and exactly how he’s getting there

  • @MrDebkumarbasu
    @MrDebkumarbasu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I couldn't help but smile at how things progressed. Genuinely happy for this guy!

  • @eliseanna6561
    @eliseanna6561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Update; after the show he turned the offer down after all but he's doing really well. (even though he got some backlash from the internet.)

  • @khandadonb111
    @khandadonb111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hi I'm Tej "tell me about yourself" Lalvani

  • @kellysmith3581
    @kellysmith3581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Well they did make up in the end ...; )

    • @grahamefreestone5309
      @grahamefreestone5309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That made me giggle.. 👍 🇬🇧

    • @Vstrum
      @Vstrum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeeze between the dragons den vid and comments section..you’ve basically entered the vortex of puns

  • @Bilal-md4st
    @Bilal-md4st 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn this guy had some serious balls!

  • @JamesSmith-ij3jb
    @JamesSmith-ij3jb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's probably the best episode I've seen. He's so Confident and knew his own mind and what he wanted. The dragons liked him alot. 👍

  • @liggett12345
    @liggett12345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's probably the best negotiation I've seen on dragons den so far

  • @kiray99
    @kiray99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was perhaps the most perfect deal in the den I’ve ever seen someone pull off, from the pitch to equity negotiation

  • @hendy1978
    @hendy1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m a serious pain in the joints. And for that reason...I’m gout.

  • @tapiture3720
    @tapiture3720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Definitely a smart guy, stood his ground well. I’m sure he’ll do well

  • @jim7771
    @jim7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve never seen someone negotiate Peter down like that, great work from the dude! Nine times out of ten, Peter would reject that, he must really like the business.

  • @davidmansfield9167
    @davidmansfield9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    JENNY: "I'll tell you where I am. I'm at home eating free toothpaste samples."

    • @TrevorParsnips
      @TrevorParsnips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ugh! Really? That shit isn't very tasty!

  • @PronkDaMonk
    @PronkDaMonk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best pitch & negotiation I've ever seen, super happy for Daniel

  • @jacobotstot2021
    @jacobotstot2021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't believe not one person notice the fact that Tej Lauvani already knew about his business model before having it explained to him. He talked about the video tutorials and all that and the guy never even said anything about it. Tej obviously already uses his products.

  • @jimpoobear6973
    @jimpoobear6973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just placed my order. I have been waiting for this a life time.

  • @AlphasPath
    @AlphasPath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I think he did a great job and picked exactly the right dragons for the business. Perhaps the best episode second only to MoBros Beard Company

    • @davidjonx4
      @davidjonx4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Completely

    • @unstoppableforcevsimmovabl1701
      @unstoppableforcevsimmovabl1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Loved that mo bros episode

    • @AlphasPath
      @AlphasPath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object Second you on that. They have a great product.

  • @Faan-iv3li
    @Faan-iv3li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen so many pitches but this is one of the best if not the best negotiations in this show. The guy isthe definition of confidence and effort to change his life. Massive respect 💪💪

  • @shanecormier1
    @shanecormier1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good man. Knows his true value and an investor can appreciate that.

  • @frankmcgonagle6143
    @frankmcgonagle6143 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've watched this episode many a times. By far the most brilliant and exciting negation in the den.

  • @mohamedrahman4299
    @mohamedrahman4299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FFS these new episodes are getting better and better loving it. Keep it up!

  • @archiedavison7237
    @archiedavison7237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love coming to the comments of dragons den because you don not get all the random people saying crap most people have something genuinely productive feedback or comments but yeah this is one of the first times i have seen someone so with it he literally knows exactly what to say for each questions,

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was as good as it gets from the young man. Covered every angle. Knew his facts and his market. Knew his figures and negotiated brilliantly without being arrogant.

  • @victorymansions
    @victorymansions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yup, I wear concealer every day and I love this and would buy it. He's taken a personal problem and turned it into his greatest achievement. Hats off buddy.

  • @domjf6
    @domjf6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genuinely had a smile on my face for the whole of this. Wow

  • @IamGilgamesh666
    @IamGilgamesh666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an absolute champ. Great brand, product, negotiator. Really happy to see a success!

  • @nanda_8
    @nanda_8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He is a master in negotiating
    Never seen any entrepreneur negotiating this well in the den before