Korg vs Behringer Monopoly: The Definitive Comparison, review and walkthrough

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  • @thejoshuathomas
    @thejoshuathomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your honesty and thorough attention to detail is why I find your channel so valuable. Thanks for always leaving in your frustrations as they arise, it's refreshing to see TH-cam content with authenticity.

  • @MacXpert74
    @MacXpert74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Great job! It's very strange that Behringer released this synth with the calibration totally off. I'm happy that you tried the calibration and that this indeed fixes it. Behringer should really take note of this and fix this in the factory. Good work!

    • @gmreynoldsjr
      @gmreynoldsjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Took delivery of a Poly-D with the same problem, calibration waaayy off.

    • @okinawa1312
      @okinawa1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Behringer should really improve their Quality Control. I bought a Crave (i know it´s a clone of an existing Synth. I´m sorry Moog) where the Filter adds a Hiss to the Signal. Still audible when Low Pass turnt all the Way down.

    • @MichaelJ023
      @MichaelJ023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also my Poly D was uncalibrated when I got it. All of the oscillators were extremely far off. It took several turns of the pots to get it in.

    • @Max_Relic
      @Max_Relic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Behringer calibrated the filter following KORG's Mono/Poly Service Manual, Fc = 7.1 kHz.

    • @caddood
      @caddood ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you calibrate it against an original when you don’t own an original? What do you base it on? Need some direction…thx

  • @TheUKMikey
    @TheUKMikey ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even a "spitting mad" Starsky at Behringer's gaslighting is friendlier and more affable than 90% of the TH-camrs I've watched. Thanks for your hard work calibrating the Behringer so we can have a proper comparison.

  • @glenesis
    @glenesis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Hi! Once you calibrated them they probably sound more alike than any original pair of Korg MonoPoly synths do. I'm impressed! Thanks for the very thorough examination. It's close enough for rock 'n roll :) This has me really excited to see their take on the OBxa. Have a fantastic day!

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      can't wait ti hear their OBXa myself.

    • @ogasi1798
      @ogasi1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarskyCarr it is sounding very nice ;-)

  • @cfov
    @cfov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I owned a Korg Mono/Poly in the 80s and loved it, but sadly had to sell it. I have been waiting all of this time to get another one, but couldn't justify the high cost. I have a Behringer Monopoly pre-ordered in the US and waiting patiently for it to show up. Thanks for this comparison because it convinced me that I made to right choice based performance and $$$.

  • @danselmix
    @danselmix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    FINALLY somebody said it! I noticed the dull sound since the first video I saw, with big dissapointness! but reviewers just said "sounds identical"... I lost interest until now... your filter callibration procedure saved the day! Great video, thanks!

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks.. it’s an easy tweak. I may do a little video just demoing exactly what to do.

    • @nuggetzmusic1613
      @nuggetzmusic1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr you going to do a vid on it?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nuggetzmusic1613 you need to ring that bell.... :) already posted one....Behringer MonoPoly Filter Calibration: What's going on?

    • @nuggetzmusic1613
      @nuggetzmusic1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr 😂 I found it

  • @michaels5166
    @michaels5166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The point is,there is really nothing to make me run and buy something old,overpriced,ancient,and have to still worry about keeping it serviced for thousands of dollars over the years.Plus,NO ONE is going to stop dancing in the club if you make a track with the Behringer,and leave the club,saying' that is not a Korg'.

    • @falconsolo7502
      @falconsolo7502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agreed mate. You couldn't have said it any better.

    • @fermiLiquidDrinker
      @fermiLiquidDrinker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The only time people will notice a difference is if you post it on a forum

    • @michaels5166
      @michaels5166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fermiLiquidDrinker exactly..These people who claim they tell the difference are delusional at best.The few on the planet who might be able to tell are rare as guys who edit 1' reel tape with razor blades and editing blocks..

    • @VincentPresley
      @VincentPresley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Except all my Behringers came brand new with more problems than my 40 year old synths and that company has zero customer support and nobody is going to be repairing any of their low price surface mounted garbage. The old stuff is made so much better and even when something goes bad it's something that can easily be fixed like a capacitor or a j-wire or 3v battery. I didn't know anything about electronics but after being into synths for 25 years I just picked up simple soldering skills and I have no problems. I've toured with vintage synths for at least 15 years.

    • @michaels5166
      @michaels5166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VincentPresley
      That's not entirely true nor logical.I have a vintage synth and newer ones,and neither gave me any problems,so it's mostly about case by case experiences,not old vs new.To add to that,if I spend $250 buying my Roland and then $500 to fix it,is that worth it,since my Roland will only get older?Old gear is NOT just a simple fix sometimes,because some of the parts are not even available,parts have 30 years of dirt,dust,and crud,etc.
      No one can tell me logically it makes sense to keep investing in something from the 1980s,instead of buying 2-3 of something new,that no one will know the difference about.Only YOU and me,and a few others MIGHT know some subtle differences.Plus,if you're touring and making a LOT of money,you can afford to maintain old gear,and possibly have servicemen on call.My gear doesnt go outside,so I damn sure do not have that kind of experience.

  • @gnarlysoundscapes7210
    @gnarlysoundscapes7210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    That's cool Behringer included easily accessible trim pots so you can tweak it yourself.

  • @5amJones69
    @5amJones69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These comparison videos are amazing. Thanks

  • @Waykoh
    @Waykoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi . i hv a question, Isn't there a problem with the in the video that comes out at 15:07 ? i mean click noise and white noise .

  • @HOOKmusicUK
    @HOOKmusicUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video, we have now added the Behringer to the studio. We found the Korg pretty much identical to the Behringer soundwise to the point we have sold the korg.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can’t get a better recommendation that that :)

  • @DestroyER82
    @DestroyER82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for amazing comparison (again!) :)
    Yes, that was definitelly uncalibrated SSM2044 filter (I even checked my Kawai K3M with same filters and goes easily up to 20KHz same as Korg you were using). Anyways, luckily its only matter of calibration unlike new Prophet that had to be modded. But saying "its allright" from Behringer was plain silly. :)
    All the best!

    • @RJ1J
      @RJ1J ปีที่แล้ว

      Interested in your point about the Prophet. Do you mean the P5/10 Rev 4? Do you have a link to the mod that you mentioned. Cheers.

    • @DestroyER82
      @DestroyER82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RJ1J Hello. First batch of new Prophet 5/10 (rev.4) had technical problem with always being dark and filtered, users had to return them or there was a DIY way to fix it. Anyways that was a thing only with first batch. At this point is everything perfectly fine.

    • @RJ1J
      @RJ1J ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks @@DestroyER82

    • @DestroyER82
      @DestroyER82 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RJ1J Welcomed! All the best!

  • @o.b.v.i.u.s
    @o.b.v.i.u.s ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, valuable and entertaining content...

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  ปีที่แล้ว

      VERY Much appreciated!

  • @sheatheman
    @sheatheman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The arpeggiator on the korg is usually referred to as ALT2. If you play a C major, the arpeggio will be C E G G E C C E G G E C C. The arp mode on the behringer is usually referred to as ALT1. If you play C major, the notes will be C E G E C E G.
    Because ALT2 repeats the high and low note, when you play 3 notes, it creates a triplet swing.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.. good to know. When I made this I’d just assumed there was an issue as it’s owner told me it was misbehaving.

  • @DurtyCardiologist
    @DurtyCardiologist หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude you are amazing....so unbiased and valuable. Thanks for everything you do, Starsky

  • @mysteritmodk9572
    @mysteritmodk9572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Always good and honest reviews and not just an uncritical commercial for Behringer etc. Much appreciated! We need more people like you with vast knowledge telling the truth about products. Thank you!

  • @ntino666
    @ntino666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A quirk i havent seen mentioned is that the arppegiator does weird rhythmic flips when you change notes in some situations. For example on the 'up' / 2 oct setting, playing one note should create a pattern of low hi low hi, good for 8th note basslines. But often when you move stepwise, it flips hi and low to the off beat. It makes it hard to use the arppegiator in a deliberate way

  • @tonalaxis
    @tonalaxis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The trimmers look like multiturn ones which do indeed take a lot of turns(like a very fine adjustment). Glad you sorted it, still on the fence about what Behringer are doing with these synths though.

    • @rick2001uk
      @rick2001uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah me too. Aside from the controversy (which while not entirely baseless, is also hyped to buggery IMO), a little more transparency post release of these synths would be marvellous. I've got the neutron and the poly d. I enjoy both (really nice things) but I'm also an analog novice, really, and I often wonder about the poly. There's trim pots on the back of it too and now that I've had a for around a year and a half, I do wonder if it's working as it should at times. I'm a bit wary to start messing with those pots while there's no manual, or additional calibration instructions.

    • @ogasi1798
      @ogasi1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rick2001uk they are there purely to tune the instrument to your tastes or if there is for example a tracking issue, if you are curious all you need to do is take notes when you make changes. I have trimmers on many instruments, i am always fiddling, i like my filters and envelopes a certain way and if i can access them i will. Of course, they trimmers are there and could be supported by an official document if indeed you needed to use them and if there was a need the team would guide you through the process, having them on the rear is a whole lot easier than sending a unit for recalibration for example.. If you are unsure, either don't, mess or seek help/take note of starting position and the amount of turns and in what orientation.

    • @ConwayBob
      @ConwayBob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, multiturn takes more turns, but it also allows for more precise adjustment. That's why Behringer uses them.

    • @ineedstuff8286
      @ineedstuff8286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait... these have rotary encoders?... I will never buy anything with those... never again... had an Maudio midi board with them.. I HATE them

    • @ogasi1798
      @ogasi1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a Fiction 2.0 there's no encoders to my knowledge, these are all analogue pots

  • @justinupchurch1773
    @justinupchurch1773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    eyes and ears screaming korg, wallet screaming behringer

  • @HominidInterneticus
    @HominidInterneticus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish they had started with the practice of putting accessible trim pots from the get-go with all of their clones. Behringer please do this from this point on with ALL of your synths

  • @Max_Relic
    @Max_Relic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Starsky, don't know if anyone pointed it out: the KORG Mono/Poly Service Manual tells that the VCF must be calibrated for an Fc of 7,1 kHz (140us single cycle waveform). Behringer was unexpectedly right.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It does… I’ve a video showing it and how to calibrate if you want it brighter. Interesting that some say that originally they were coming from the factory calibrated higher and the service manual is incorrect - others that they changed the factory calibration after customers asking for a brighter tone. There may be someone who actually knows somewhere 😂 lots of speculation but no specifics - that’s the internet for you !

    • @Max_Relic
      @Max_Relic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr IMO Behringer did it right in giving easy access to all key calibration trimmers (i.e as KORG did on the MS20 or MS50). What they don't understand is how important is a good manual for both longevity and popularity of a product, and unfortunately still put out what other users call "toilet paper". A good manual has a pedagogic function to newbies that can't be denied.

  • @Confidentialcomputing
    @Confidentialcomputing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review style. Proper A/B testing across key parameters. 👍

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Odd about the filter calibration, but once you had that set it was incredibly similar. Love the bottom end on those, sounds nice and beefy.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very strange... but at least it was fixable. Sounds great, and that bass rumbles the rafters.

    • @AlexBallMusic
      @AlexBallMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr Yeah, the SSM filter is always a fatty.

  • @rhamlyn100
    @rhamlyn100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Korg sounded noticeably more colourful to me.

  • @mysynthsandstuff6519
    @mysynthsandstuff6519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ooh there’s nothing as hard hitting as being disappointed. Really good effort. I don’t own a Behringer MonoPoly but certainly hope to get one in due course and really appreciate your effort.

  • @SNO-
    @SNO- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your attention to detail is your grace. Great video!!!!

  • @ogasi1798
    @ogasi1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i did tell you about that filter adjuster on the release of your 1st video shag ;-), gotta love that OG arpeggio :-) - super video as always

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      haha yes you did.. I thought I'd hang on to see how it compared before taking the plunge. Thanks :)

  • @davidborrie1199
    @davidborrie1199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, more than a year later... has Behringer got around to fixing the "Poly mode + Hold" issue via firmware yet? Seems like an annoying bug...

  • @Bananskuden
    @Bananskuden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Behringer pros: cheaper, smaller, midi, less prone to breaking down(? - only time will tell); Behringer cons: constant nagging doubt about true sound and supporting evil corp.

  • @AlecBoyd
    @AlecBoyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember the Model D? It had like 9 pages in the manual on how to tune the damn things. The early ones shipped pretty far out of tune

  • @jlolivermusic
    @jlolivermusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone saying they sound remotely similar is nuts. Yes they both do the same things but that’s where it ends. I had them next to each other and I would say Behringer definitely missed the mark by a good bit on this one. I think the main thing is no SSM chips = no Mono/poly. Those chips are like 50% of the units sound. The Behringer lacks the richness and depth of the original and I think a lot of them comes from the amazing filter

  • @lovemadeinjapan
    @lovemadeinjapan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you find out how to do the drone chords at 35:00? It seems quintessential.

  • @matiasmoulin2126
    @matiasmoulin2126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great to see your face, Mr. Carr!

  • @1980VINZ
    @1980VINZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You found the calibration issue, you are the best!!!!!!!!!!

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am ... the best.... I'll tell my wife, hopefully she'll finally believe me :)

    • @1980VINZ
      @1980VINZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr she already knows that’s why you’re her husband !! 😄👍👍
      More seriously, a big merci for your video, I’m very interested by this synth and you did a great job, as usual. This is so cool to have people like you on TH-cam, this is PRICELESS.
      Big salut from France!! 🇫🇷
      Vinz. 🙋‍♂️

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Merci beaucoup 👍

  • @Pm-qp6tb
    @Pm-qp6tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent thank you 😊
    how can I check this issue without a proper material. ?

    • @ogasi1798
      @ogasi1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you can do this with something like sound forge or anything else that will give you a frequency analysis, lots of free software out there ;-)

    • @Pm-qp6tb
      @Pm-qp6tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ogasi1798 thank you

    • @PorchBass
      @PorchBass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do it by ear. Turn on the key tracking and bring up resonance until you get an oscillator, tune that against the actual oscillators by ear.

    • @Pm-qp6tb
      @Pm-qp6tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PorchBass thank you

  • @SourDiesel69
    @SourDiesel69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a video with the robert hood sound on the behringer monopoly

  • @ekoboydj
    @ekoboydj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    identical. wondering if this uncalibration is with all units..can someone advise? or was just Stars unit?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s with all the units. The original service manual has it tuned to 7 kHz which is what Behringer have replicated. It’s a super easy thing to change though .

  • @re8et355
    @re8et355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love a comparison with the Reason Monopoly RE and/or Vst as well. Nicely done!!

  • @MrAliensix
    @MrAliensix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! There's obviously a problem with the arpeggiator on the Korg there, as my Korg Monopoly's arpeggiator works as you would expect i.e like the Behringer. As regards Behringer tech support I think they're all told to say, 'it's supposed to do that'! It's a shame really as they're doing some pretty cool stuff. Cheers! :)

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Took another look at the arp on the original ... just needed to tweak the envelopes. I was expecting weirdness as the owner said it had a kind of its own so I didn’t play around with it enough. Check out my update on the filter ... turns out support was correct - but didn’t give this geek quite enough info !’

  • @randydarklight
    @randydarklight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best Filter comparison (monopoly) on this planet.

  • @rrocktoo
    @rrocktoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve just left a message on the Alamo Music comparison video directing viewers here regarding the Behringer’s dullness. You’ve identified a fault that all potential owners need to be aware of. It will cost Behringer sales.

  • @NeonFuxAlot
    @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my Mono-Poly arrived , after letting it heat up for 30 mins and the putting the Vcos through calibration by powering off then holding Effects button while powering on i get the following frequencies on the filter with resonance at 10 , cutoff between 1-2 around 50-80hz
    Cutoff at 10 i get 7795hz
    So mine purrs like a 100 tonne lion and can squeal to almost just past my perceptible hearing .
    Still have no clue what it should be but from zero sound at low to zero sound at high seems to be ideal to me maybe even a little wide on the bandwidth if enything

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s exactly what mine was doing. If you tweak the FC ADJ screw in the back - turn it a few rotations clockwise - then the cutoff will act like the originals. ... max out at around. 19-20 kHz It allows it to go much brighter, but you can dial the cutoff down to get what you’re getting now.

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr i am not really sure how i should do this , what do you set the cutoff and resonance to while adjusting , resonance at 10 & cutoff 0?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeonFuxAlot I'll upload a quick video tomorrow maybe with a demo of how to do it... but cutoff and resonance at full. all oscillators on zero so you're listening to only the filter self-oscillating. As you turn the screw clockwise the frequency should start rising.

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr Cheers , how about using the Patch sheet thats in the manual as setup reference note

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr i watched video again and have same problem with Hold on Poly mode but try it on Unison , its epic

  • @ultraconchetsap
    @ultraconchetsap 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes ! i was waiting for one of your comparisons for this specific synth, thanks dude !

  • @MrThebearded1
    @MrThebearded1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The I.T Crowd theme lol on the behringer first play

  • @bobz1736
    @bobz1736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job and excellent detective work 😀

  • @validcore
    @validcore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My arpegiator when set to FULL(which never happened in this vid) hits low loud out of tune notes as the scale goes up. Is this all units or just mine?

    • @333jobforacowboy
      @333jobforacowboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey mine did this. Don’t know if you already figured it out but mine did this and it turned out to be a bug that can be fixed by updating the firmware. Its all good now!

    • @validcore
      @validcore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@333jobforacowboy yep same here! I did a vid on it, glad there was a fix.

  • @blankspace0000
    @blankspace0000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This might be the closest sounding Behringer clone yet. Still not exact but definitely closer than the moog stuff.

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disagree … Model D (but not Poly-D) and Pro-1 sound closest, to me

  • @chargen7224
    @chargen7224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you ask if the panel board could be reached with MIDI CC (you suggested it was not, just plain) have you asked Behringer? It's hard to believe, that they're nit interested in opening the panel /// it would allow for something more automata

  • @ineedstuff8286
    @ineedstuff8286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1) Can i hit a 4-note chord like a 7th chord on this?
    2) Can it be detuned sawtooth strings for the chord?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and yes. I think I actually do both in the video. The only thing I’d say is detuned saws is normally in the same voice.. so all voices define similarly. Here you define the oscillators independently so you have to be careful not to make it sound out of tune. It’s a subtle difference, but defining note to note can make it sound out of tune.

    • @ineedstuff8286
      @ineedstuff8286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr ok.. but the unison button will (when engaged) will be a one-note at a time thing?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ineedstuff8286 Yes, unison is always a one note thing... it's what 'unison' means. :)

  • @tukler2
    @tukler2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video again! Thank you! The Korg’s arp is definitely faulty, none of my monopoly’s has had that funky behaviour.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought it was weird... and difficult to use. Just goes to show that vintage synths have their own character 😂

  • @michaelg9344
    @michaelg9344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great thanks for the tip on the filter calibration for future reference if I decidedly purchase the Beringer.
    Your specimen Korg's arpegiator does not behave as my vintage one. The Beringer is linear as my old beast.
    The presentation by comparison is deep but for one detail of the original- the sinusoidal artifact induction using extreme resonance. peaking.
    The Beringer model gives hope to those of the original with keyboard contact problems.
    You are fabulous in the logic by comparison.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Yeah I should’ve spent longer with the OGs arp but the owner had told me it was knackered. It turns out it’s not - it was just the interaction of the envelopes and note length etc.

  • @torstensommer4319
    @torstensommer4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is also always important to mention: Component-Aging. The Korg is 40 years old. The Behringer is only a baby. So just wait till the Behringer is 40 years old.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I mentioned that… but to be honest I can’t remember what I’ve said … it’s a recurring theme in these videos 😂

  • @Jason75913
    @Jason75913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    interesting, is there a similar calibration pot for the Behringer 2600?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are trimmers all over the place :) they’re behind the rubber bungs you can see next to every slider.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I asked because the Behringer filter apparently doesn't go as high as the Cherry Audio emulation, so I can recalibrate it when I get one.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jason75913 I also found the Cherry audio 106 to be much duller than my hardware - so would stick with the factory calibration tbh.bI like the CA stuff but I wouldn't use it as a benchmark :)

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarskyCarr I don't, but I can brighten it to taste, let's put it that way instead.

  • @GNeuman
    @GNeuman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strange how they chose to clone a synth that really didn't set the world on fire when first released. I'm struggling to think of any major artists that used this back in the day. Doesn't mean it's a bad synth though....Astonished by the accuracy of the cloning.

    • @fermiLiquidDrinker
      @fermiLiquidDrinker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vince Clark used/uses a mono/poly

    • @GNeuman
      @GNeuman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fermiLiquidDrinker well, Vince is one of those artists who have used everything and the kitchen sink in their studios, like Trent Reznor and Radiohead.

    • @DMT353
      @DMT353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But he’s a major artist.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how does it sound thru a flanger, chorus, phaser, reverb, delay chain?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would depend on the Fx chain. No point in me putting it through my MoogerFoogers - not may folks have them so wouldn’t replicate whatever FX other have access to.

    • @pcuimac
      @pcuimac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr I just would have lived to hear some examples of real life sounds with some effects. Or do people really use analog synths dry?
      When I started with synths, I bought a Kawai K4r and was angry it did sound as good as the K4. Then I encountered the cause: No effects jn that unit! So I had to buy an external BOSS SE-50. Sooooo much better. Sadly I couldn't save the effects with the patches. I also never knew what patch had what original effect. Thankfully my K5000R and S have the same engine and I can use all patches with the original effects.
      thx for the comprehensive test of the MonoPoly!

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve another video playing it through a reverb ... sounds great. This was a comparison with the original, so focussing on the functions of the synth itself.

    • @moosey62
      @moosey62 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds good through all my guitar pedals.

  • @amazeus1980
    @amazeus1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Behringer should give you a job at calibration room! 😂

  • @michaelg9344
    @michaelg9344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of the original. If you hang the switch between two positions in the wheel section you can drive the LFO to sonic levels. I used this to create realistic thunder.

  • @mynameistechno
    @mynameistechno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Now all users need a calibration tutorial - from you - not behringer,

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha... a simple screwdriver does the trick. I did wonder whether to include it, but didn't want to linger on it ... I was too excited about having a play :)

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StarskyCarr If i remember correctly i had to tune the Odessay but even the manual recommends this after warm up , I suspect this is the case for the PolyMono and the MonoPoly

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NeonFuxAlot you should always allow an analog synths 15 mins to warm up, it goes with the territory. This wasn’t the oscillators, but the filter. Tuning the filter is not a very common requirement for any synth, unless it’s broken. I’ve never done it in 30 years of owning them... and only had to retune a single VCO on all my synths in that time. Calibration is normally something associated with tech maintenance tbh.

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr i agree with tobi about a calibration tutorial , please use the init patch at the back of the quick start book or use the patch sheet on page 39 as starting basis so we are all on same control settings before we start to tinker , thanks

    • @moosey62
      @moosey62 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeonFuxAlot Me too! I'm in. Calibration tutorial would be appreciated muchly!

  • @ramtang
    @ramtang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wondering about the "swing" on the arp of the original? My original (1st owner) does the same as the Behringer, so without the "swing" (as intended). Yours seems to do an extra rest after the arpeggiated notes? Interesting feature :-)
    BTW Thanks for your detailed comparison!

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, you're the second person to mention that. maybe the vintage unit I have here has an issue with the arp. I think it probably has!

  • @zerobeat2020
    @zerobeat2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually it is the Behringer arpeggiator that is the odd one out. An up/down arp should repeat the top note in order to stay in step, the Korg does that the Behringer doesn't, rendering that arp option on the Behringer next to useless. This is typical Behringer. Their synthesizers are cheap for a reason. Annoying quirks like these and the fact that my Behringer Odyssey broke down within 9 months and took months to repair is exactly the reason I sold it and from now on stick with more conscientious and experienced synth manufacturers.

  • @RundFyrkant
    @RundFyrkant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, what else did they forget and if they did forget something is it any point to bring it up?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out my update where I discover the service manual!!

  • @hydorah
    @hydorah ปีที่แล้ว

    The Behringer in 4o years time? I'd suggest looking inside one before making a judgment on whether it will be a playable musical instrument in 40 years time

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar looking to the new Prophet5 and OBX8 - so they’re probably in the same boat.

    • @hydorah
      @hydorah ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr Haven't looked inside either of those, but highly likely they are SMD. I have repaired some SMD stuff, the kit is out there but it is so much harder to do, more time consuming and more costly - and when guys like Behringer use custom parts inside their products it makes for another dimension, if those parts break? You are sunk. The OBX8 sounds so utterly devastatingly amazingly glorious though!

    • @hydorah
      @hydorah ปีที่แล้ว

      I found some gut shots of the OBX8 online, it's SMD but looks spaciously laid out. Can't tell how much is custom.... I guess I'll just have to buy one! Hehe Maybe one day....

  • @DoctorJRx
    @DoctorJRx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This just made me cancel my preorder :( thanks though Starsky ..its why I watch you videos. Your insight is very reliable !!

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Take a look at my update to the mysteriously dull filter.

    • @spectralknights2
      @spectralknights2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's freaking $700 bro, compared to that old original how much?

  • @digitaldiezel5870
    @digitaldiezel5870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW! I'm impressed at the comparison! I think you found the problem that others have missed. That calibration adjustment did the trick. I always thought the sound was off but it just needed to be recalibrated. I also think the X-Mod is off a little but no big deal. Always thought the board sounded nice on its own without comparisons. Still concerned about the issue at 33:48...hopefully they update the firmware. Overall great job digging in and finding the problem! Thanks!🙏🏾💯👍

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Defo something up with Poly mode but Unison with Hold is Epic

  • @Emiel1983Schoonoord
    @Emiel1983Schoonoord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Behringer ' MonoPoly' font looks so cheap.. I mean, it's a copy for christ s sake, then also copy that cool original font! Thanks Starsky for the big effort of making this comparison!

  • @alphanumeric1529
    @alphanumeric1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Korg sounds better. Every time, every application! The Korg just sounds more analog! Every example there is more movement or life in the Korg, more harmonics in odd places. And sometimes, I just don't know what it is, but it is the difference between preference, like each time, I prefer the Korg, something about the Korg is always just better to me. But, the Korg MonoPoly has always been an out of hand beastie, known for its grunting aggression.
    I'm old enough to have bought a Korg MonoPoly when they were supposedly cheap, but I didn't know my a55 from my elbow... so sad. But by the time I figured out what I like, and what specific instruments made those sounds, the MonoPoly was going up in price. One of those things where you think, oh, that's the ceiling price, it's getting absurd, but nope, the price just kept going up. But then I lost my life, and just about everything was out of my price range. Even sadder. But, I guess Behringer is getting back into drooling distance. I know for most it's nothing to buy one of these Behringers, but for me, it would require miracle level funding. And I guess the Behringer would get kind of there. At least it is blue and has strangely evenly spaced out knobs. Paupers can't be choosers and all. I guess, thanks Behringer. I'm hoping Behringer will be releasing v2's of these in 10 years or something, and maybe they'll be a little better at achieving the particular character of these old synths that made each a master in it's own domain. It just seems all this Behringer analog gear, which I've been so psyched about is all just kind of generic sounding. Not as bad as a vst, but somewhere between a vst and real analog, which should be their tag line. Lol. But, around 24:00 good sounds out of the Beri. It's now one of my life's ambitions to get my hands on the Beri M/P.
    One thing, not through this vid yet, but the old Korg, had unique... modes, or quirks, to note priority, and just little weird things that produced unique sounds and even musical structures... wondering if the Beri actually emulated all of those features as well... 28:35 as an example...
    Thanks for vid. Swear this was supposed to be short.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      tl;dr
      if we forced you to tell them apart without looking at them and avoiding where tthe Behringer's bigger bass shines, I promise you you'd fail to tell them apart, buddy, lol

    • @Arcessitor
      @Arcessitor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao. It sounds more analog despite both of them being fully analog. Okay champ.

  • @omarbonifacino2230
    @omarbonifacino2230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great sound Behringer for my . Very nice

  • @yavamaystudio8045
    @yavamaystudio8045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you need wider range of harmonics for Behringer, you can use Aural Aphex exciter or Behringer sonic exciter 3040.

  • @validcore
    @validcore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind doing a vid just showing the calibration? Was this righty tighty or lefty loosie?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I might put one together.. it’s really simple, but perhaps seeing it ‘live’ might give people confidence to do it themselves.

  • @dr.feelicks2051
    @dr.feelicks2051 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arp trig on orig runs on lfo, jack breaks normal.
    Behringer requires SYNTHTRIBE to switch to internal.external

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep... I edited that out..it was getting a little longwinded.

  • @eco_beige
    @eco_beige 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison as always! Do you plan on comparing the behringer with the Korg VST?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hadn't planned on it.. Maybe a quick one with all 3?

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarskyCarr might as well include the iPad version too , i may surprise tou

    • @eco_beige
      @eco_beige 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StarskyCarr would be appreciated!

    • @rs0389
      @rs0389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The korg VST has a lot of extra effects on it.

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rs0389 what ! You dont have effects ?

  • @1980VINZ
    @1980VINZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such an enjoyable video, love you mate, really 🙏

  • @djmouglie
    @djmouglie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you would do a compare with the software version. I know the software is old but im wondering if its really worth the money to get the Behringer hardware version if the software sounds anyway near as good. As the software also has poly, detune stereo spread and effects and so on.

    • @kristianborisov5928
      @kristianborisov5928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Korg made some update recently, so the software is even not so old anymore. I would be interested in the same comparison, although listening to the software (which I have), and to the hardware through the demos, I can definitely say that the hardware is noticeably fatter and with more bottom. Playing the software though it sounds quite better than TH-cam videos, and is really pleasing (same applied to Polysix VST).

  • @moosey62
    @moosey62 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda strange they don't make the calibration tweak a feature of the synth and tell you how to go about doing it on a new machine.
    It's not as if the customers for this synth don't like messing about.
    But thanks for getting this out there mate. I would never have guessed it in a million years.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks... I've an update on this here: th-cam.com/video/caKbgSkvLc8/w-d-xo.html
      turns out they are calibrated.. but the history of this makes it a little more confusing as most originals appear to have been tweaked for brighter tones.

  • @RoofLight00
    @RoofLight00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My OG mono poly takes a good ten minutes to warm up a bit 😂
    I think these behringer synths are great though for the money, I don’t understand the haters?
    Nice run through.

  • @Stefan0xXx
    @Stefan0xXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi man awesome comparison! So wich parameter should I adjust with the screwdriver in the back panel?

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've just uploaded this which will help th-cam.com/video/caKbgSkvLc8/w-d-xo.html

  • @infinity528hz5
    @infinity528hz5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always enjoy when you laughing, and ranting, very good rewiew,

  • @dalejason
    @dalejason 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent comparison video, great work 👏👏👏

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this walkthrough. Enough to make me pull the trigger. 🙌🏼

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool, thanks :) enjoy it.

  • @michaelg9344
    @michaelg9344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My original Mono/Poly noise generator sounds repetitive. I'm suspicious that this is not normal.

  • @marcmistermarc
    @marcmistermarc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny them checking with you if it's OK! Still I guess it's better than them asking KORG if they have it right.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha ... but no-one checked with me, I was trying to figure out why everyone said it sounded so dull. I’ve another vid explaining what went on there.

  • @repasiv
    @repasiv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There is only one big difference. You can actually get a brand new behringer monopoly for a reasonable price.

    • @michaels5166
      @michaels5166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YOU told it all..we're done here..

  • @nickdestruct
    @nickdestruct หลายเดือนก่อน

    watching this again.. kinda sucks the og mp has veneer particle board sides too. ive always had some fascination with how the monopoly looks. i want to try the bono boly but idk.. the new minipoly looks great but im not paying that price atm. maybe once it comes down id reconsider, but a used boly is cheap rn.. or just get a dreadbox. too much gas not enough cash..😮‍💨

  • @ZaffinMusic
    @ZaffinMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ★★★★★ excellent comparison, as per usual, sir. It’s funny that you mentioned thicker keys because I was looking at the top-down image and thinking that the B’s keys were thinner but I just put it down to being an optical illusion.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never noticed to look at.. it was the feel that gave it away.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZaffinMusic Hahah... get your geek on... MP back keys are approx 8mm at the top surface. OB6 is approx 8.7 ... maybe ... ish :) you can feel it but its difficult to measure.. because everything's black!

  • @christopher3971
    @christopher3971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison as always! Starsky - What would you prescribe the best method for identifying a calibration issue with the Behringer model, with out having access to an original? Specifically how can you be sure you’ve recalibrated the filter correctly with nothing to compare it to? Thanks Chris

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve no idea tbh. You really need something to compare it to... or at least some original specs. I had no idea if this was working like a vintage unit until I got hold of this one. Others had told me it looked wrong, but without seeing the evidence it’s hard to know exactly what people are looking at (wires can easily be crossed via comments and forums). You really need someone who’s got one to give you the numbers.

    • @flyondonnie9578
      @flyondonnie9578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could calibrate it to a vst MonoPoly.

  • @crashedsite
    @crashedsite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes you wonder about the differences between your Minimoog and Poly D, maybe the Poly D also wasn't calibrated correct by Behringer, maybe they also can get even closer if you calibrate it

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the differences in the Poly D where more due to gain structure and having the additional oscillator but it does make you wonder about different users experiences.

  • @kriz716
    @kriz716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see Behringer make the Emu Audity from 1980 a reality

  • @cammellsound5400
    @cammellsound5400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can still hear up to 16k, which is nice.

  • @ZethKeeper
    @ZethKeeper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:34 lol just picked up the year on your watch, looks like you're a time traveler.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No-one believes me!

  • @KarlAdamsAudio
    @KarlAdamsAudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re: the Hold mode behaviour difference, I initially thought it was because you had the Behringer in Single Trigger mode and the Korg in Multiple, but it looks like you changed that in the last attempt at 35:22, to no avail, unfortunately.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was about 5 minutes of me messing around with everything I edited out at that point. It's a fine balance between showing everything you've looked at and making it watchable. This started at 1:30 long. I originally thought auto damp had something to do with it... then trigger modes... just couldn't figure it out.

    • @KarlAdamsAudio
      @KarlAdamsAudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally understand - I think you do an excellent job with the editing: the feel is informal and friendly, yet the pacing never drags - no mean feat.

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr poly mode defo has a fault , just try Unison with Hold , its epic .

  • @2000stephenellis
    @2000stephenellis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starsky Carr.. The ONLY ..comparison than matters !! (even if he is a bit scouse) ! ..lol .... sorry Mr S .. only joking ! yours comparisons are THE goto vids for the Behringer stuff .. hats off to yas .. peace brother ..STOKIE steve !!

  • @ambiosonics
    @ambiosonics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a comment on the arpeggio of the Korg: in Up-Down-Mode the Korg repeats the endnote, a two note arpeggio is C E E C C E...; a three note arpeggio on the Korg is C E G G E C C E G .... The Behringer appearently does not(!) repeat the the endnote on Up-Down-Mode; it plays the three note arpeggio like C E G E C.
    What you thought that it is an "shuffle" or a halted note is simply two notes - which you don't hear, because your sustain is set to maximum and you are in unisono- or mono-mode. Set the decay and sustain to something like 5 and you will hear it easily.
    Regards, Florian Anwander

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, but apparently it’s a flaw in this machine.. it always does this no matter what the settings. The owner has told me he’s always just considered it was weird.. turns out it’s not acting like it should.

    • @florian-anwander
      @florian-anwander 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr Hi, I re-checked the behaviour now on my Korg MonoPoly. It is definitely as I described above (using my band account - now I am writing with my personal account). In UpDown-Mode the end note is repeated. In up-only mode or down-only mode this repetition does not happen of course.

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@florian-anwander I've just had another quick play with the MonoPoly before I return it to its owner. You're quite right about the arpeggiator.
      I didn't linger on it in the video as the owner had told me it was misbehaving and had always been a bit strange. I even double checked with him before uploading the final edit. I wish I'd spent a bit more time on it while recording now. If he hadn't have said anything I'd wouldn't have expected it to be odd and would have have spent a little more time getting it to sound better! Never mind.. but it's quite annoying ;)
      I think he'll be very pleased when I explain what's going on, so thank you very much. Very useful info

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Behringer is spot on with both Monopoly and PolyD. Not just in price but in sound as well.

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to the extent of Model D and Pro-1, tho’

  • @NeonFuxAlot
    @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am quite surprised that there is little difference in sound considering how capacitors degrade over time and especially with how that effects oscillator circuits.
    I have a Mono-Poly coming tomorrow 😎 I will use your filter section to see how mine has been tuned but i suspect they will all come incorrectly adjusted

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm interested in how they're all being calibrated... Behringer specifically stated in their response to me that this is how they left the factory - so maybe they're all calibrated this way?? Please let me know what you find. Thanks

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr yes , i will do as soon as it comes out the box , i will let it heat up for 15 mins before i do anything though, cheers for finding the fix if it is indeed a problem with all coming from factory. I suspect tuning will be in the manual for initial setup like it is for the oddy

    • @NeonFuxAlot
      @NeonFuxAlot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Update , its arrived and .........

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeonFuxAlot ……. 🙄 …….

    • @DonSolaris
      @DonSolaris 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ....... and there was a ten pound gold bar in the box, which is why we never heard of adventureswithsteve2981 again :)))

  • @pthelo
    @pthelo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this Starsky- especially the bit about calibrating the filter. I've loved the sound and wanted a MonoPoly since I heard a friend's back in the 90's. I'm so stoked to have one on preorder from Sweetwater and that it's going to sound so good! Keep on rocking - and take care of that lighting issue. (lol) I was wondering what was happening!

  • @patkelly8309
    @patkelly8309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your honest opinion of Behringer as a company, and what they are doing with all these so-called clones?

  • @tirskikhroman
    @tirskikhroman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Behringer!

  • @alphanumeric1529
    @alphanumeric1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    34:30 an example of the Korg MonoPoly having unique play/performance capabilities that were unique to the MonoPoly that I was hoping Behringer would emulate... but it seems they didn't. It is not all about the "sound" which, again, I always preferred the old Korg, I've got no ax to grind, I'd rather the fully working, cheaper, and available synth were the better sounding. But it is not. But again x2, it's not all about the sound, with synths and electronic instruments, there are strange little interface features, one of which you discover around 34:30 that makes the original so unique... and ah... how uniqueness is the thing that digi mass production hasn't given us. It's given us sameness, affordability, but sameness.
    Honestly, I can imagine younger people wondering why you'd buy one synth over another, these Beri's sound so similar to each other, and have the same type of plain interface features... Buy the synth that you like the color of?
    All's well that ends. Thanks for vids, and all your work, always so appreciative.

    • @moi01887
      @moi01887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It looks to me like between the two synths, the setting of the single/multiple trigger switch is different. I wonder if that explains the different behavior?

  • @IrrationalRecreation
    @IrrationalRecreation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would recommend taking a look at Kebu's video from a couple of weeks ago. th-cam.com/video/V37cZTlr15w/w-d-xo.html . He has two original Mono/Poly keyboards which makes for an interesting comparison with the Behringer. Also, given the existence of the 'Sizzle' mod for the original Korg, does this not suggest that at least some had a filter that rolls off in the mid-band (or does so with age) ?

  • @SEFFOfficial
    @SEFFOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The “clone” is still really Phatt sounding to me regardless

    • @StarskyCarr
      @StarskyCarr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there's no denying its got some balls

    • @SEFFOfficial
      @SEFFOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarskyCarr You know it mate, that saw is so dirty ha!!

    • @javiersanchez_marquez
      @javiersanchez_marquez หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did they fix it after 3 years? Thanks