In a parallel universe, Thorin's son crawled over the Earth and his first words were spoken, it was "SICK SKRILA". And I say "parallel universe" because, the one we live in, Richard Lewis can't get pregnant.
+Benjamin Jones It's ok man, don't be upset. Maybe if they kick that decoy named adren, and buy another euro to carry them, They might have a chance at winning a major!
+Jesse Spika think about it man, he has played cs since he was like 12 or whatever. he has played a very long time with sgares who was a very good IGL. I don't think he will be so bad..
Mr. Shields, kind Sir, can publish this as a podcast as well? I'm on the move too much to watch the amount of content you put out, would rather hear it.
I've wanted to go for Cloud9 as my favorite NA team ever since I started playing CS, and I've always loved n0thing as a person and even as a player.I honestly don't know why the team had to be built around original players though. If you listen to C9 comms, it seems like Freak may have been their best choice for IGL, considering he seems to be the one with game sense along with the one who gets players to focus. This would leave n0thing to do some more aggressive stuff like entry-fragging, like what Thorin says. I just would hate to see n0thing leave the team, but maybe they adjust roles. Thoughts anyone?
How did we get to Sean leaving because of N0thing. I saw on a Sean stream highlight that he left because of the scheduling issues (being overworked and sent to too many tournaments by C9 themselves) but if I remember correctly he grudgingly and without detailed hint at an internal issue - can anyone expand on that?
On an off-topic, since AdreN is the only player on Liquid that seems to be decent/okay in a team full of NA stars, if he were to be cut who do you think could replace his role as IGL that is a better player overall and is also a really good IGL or has great potential as an IGL?
Since it was brought to new attention... Thoughts/Video on the de_cache footage of flusha, k0nfig? On a fictive basis, would Valver(knowing a certain amount of pro-players cheated) ever bust any players of this caliber, having earned this much money, won several events? How would everything influence the scene, and public image of the game? I could think of 1000 more questions and other questions which evolve from the multiple answers and I would love to hear/read some of your thoughts. - I am not a flusha hater but the recent de_cache scenes with solid evidence in terms of map buildup in combination with visual examples of how the area portals work has got me thinking. IMO (short): Valve is too naive in their thinking and AC measures. (You can comment on this as well, if you'd like to) Apart from that, I really enjoy watching your videos.
Hey, so out of curiosity, what do you think of Rainbow Six Siege now that ESL has announced the pro league? Do you think its a step in the right direction? Too little too late? Or meaningless in the face of the other problems it currently faces? And given its (admittedly loose) similarities and connections to games like CS, would you think about following it should it actually develop into a sizeable esport?
+GodLikeBr4z he already did in previous vids. There were some problems in the org which made the team leave to form a new org called astralis lead by their former manager in tsm and themselves.
I feel like if Immunity and Renegades have talent split between eachother, and if mixed could form an australian dream team. what players would an aus dream team have according to you? surely Rickeh and Azr would be part of it?
+Eazy E they lack a leader and fox is dead weight, so a proper IGL is the obvious move. pronax would be an amazing fit but he's been rejecting offers from good teams it seems. jkaem could also be switched out if he doesn't perform. they have some of the pieces in place for a sick nordic lineup.
Definitely see C9 struggling. Picking up stewie just doesn't make sense for what they need. It seems like Shrouds big issue is motivation, he just seems to not give a fuck. They needed another good igl and need a way to get Shroud motivated to see if that will up his game play. I would love to see C9 do well but I just see some more roster changes coming.
Dalton Baker you're high as fuck if you think JDM is better then ska, and azk over hiko is not that bad of a idea, but not with a team with a play like n1tro in it
If I took a shot for every time this guy smacks his mouth when he swallows his spit, I would've died of alcohol poisoning 573846582 shots ago. Drink LOTS of water before you record Thorin
So near the end where he said that n0thing is a likable person, i don't give a shit how likable a person is cause that doesn't win dude was a cancer in c9's team, with his strat calling it will be worse then the current tsm lineup which is dogshit. But i'm mainly basing that off of n0thing's inability to listen to any of the strats.
There are only three players from that Complexity lineup that are actually still good. One is banned forever, the other cant frag and is on low tier team and no longer wants to put the work in at his role and travel, the last is on one the best NA teams and even he has dropped in form from the days of Complexity. The remaining two are both pretty mediocre players, one is a dick with attitude problems and the other is masquerading as an IGL (you know the one guy on C9 who forgets strats he was just told about two seconds ago). If C9 dont have a coach they're gonna have a bad year, they traded literally the only successful NA IGL at Euro LANs for a pug star so lets see how that goes, one can only wonder how it will go...
The only person I said fragged worse than his complexity days was Hiko (on the best team in NA Liquid), sean improved but lets be honest he is no happy nor a quality rifler he should be a an IGL thats what he is good at.
It's almost the same as the Hiko situation. Sgares finally realizes that C9 has no hope, and they will never have the discipline or be willing to make the tough decisions to become the best team. Might as well mould your own crew and work in a less stressful environment.
yeah i mean if they kept an ingame leader i dunno even if semphis was still there but they are stuck with no igl and no coach and as thorin proves it must've been bad is sean is playing for a t2/3 pug team *****
+David Hunter They are based in NA, but all the players are from SA and it's an SA org. It's hardly NA. It's the same case with renegades, AU org, AU team, NA based.
Thorin, Seangares didn't left just because of n0thing, see: th-cam.com/video/Hz4C4hozgvg/w-d-xo.html. So the statement that you are basically making that c9 choose to keep nothing above every other player is false (and if seangares decided to leave because of n0thing we still have 2 players who didn't, 50%). So only Hiko left because he had a problem with n0thing and from c9 standpoint if only one player has a problem with another player while the rest of the team hasn't, the player that has the problem in the first place (hiko) might be the problem itself. I agree that n0thing is not that well suited for an igl role and that the c9 team isn't that well balanced at the moment. But saying that c9 build the team arround n0thing is simply not true. Along the road decisions where made in best interest of the team but it is not if c9 choose from the start to keep n0thing above every other player. Thus the purpose and conclusion of this whole video is just bullshit.
I think stewie jumped the gun joining C9, with n0thing as an IGL stew won't be able to learn and become a good player.. It'll be like shahzam all over again except stew is actually good
Great intro as always Thorin.
Damn, I initially thought the title said "n0thing left C9"
+Milkman-007 lol..
+RPGLounge might not be that good but I like him
well it happened
In a parallel universe, Thorin's son crawled over the Earth and his first words were spoken, it was "SICK SKRILA". And I say "parallel universe" because, the one we live in, Richard Lewis can't get pregnant.
+Aruã Torres 5/7
N0thing knows where the bodies are located.
dank intro
Just like your profile picture
Welcome to 21st century studies. I will be your professor, Dan K. Meme.
+Bozocow Hello Dan K. Meme, I'm Phuc Dat Bich
gontroller
gontroller venomcraft
Remembering all this shit about everything is amazing. Even if you read up beforehand it's very well delivered.
this
this
Ontop of that its done in one take
Just being curious....is Throrin living inside of a freezer, or why does he always wear that winter outfit inside?
Damn Thorin it's 0:11 AM here
come for the alphadraft intros, stay for the discussion
Any thoughts on EchoFox?
+Wonder Watch By the Numbers, linked in the description box
+Thooorin thanks
intro on point as always
thank you! i was really looking forward to you elaborating on this topic! great analysis and explination. i really appreciate it.
"Can't all be 10/10 boys." killed me lmao
Liquid will be better than c9 now
+Andrew Craig liquid top 4-7 i would say
+Andrew Craig liquid have to get carried by a euro to be relevant lol.
Benjamin Jones NA carried by EU EleGiggle
Benjamin Jones hahaha, the salt is real.
+Benjamin Jones It's ok man, don't be upset. Maybe if they kick that decoy named adren, and buy another euro to carry them, They might have a chance at winning a major!
N0thing is an igl now? Jesus fucking Christ......
He raps every call
+Jesse Spika Out of the 4 other players now on the team he is the most qualified, still doesn't mean he'll be any good though.
+Jesse Spika think about it man, he has played cs since he was like 12 or whatever. he has played a very long time with sgares who was a very good IGL. I don't think he will be so bad..
+Collin Davis (tEh iNSanE) Exactly. You know something is wrong when n0thing is the most qualified for the igl role... The future is dark for c9.
+my life is a big meme Stop fucking using autism as a goddamn insult, what the fuck is wrong with you people >.
You know it's gonna be a good episode when the title has a hectic pun
Mr. Shields, kind Sir, can publish this as a podcast as well? I'm on the move too much to watch the amount of content you put out, would rather hear it.
Whats the name of this amazing outro song? I love it! :D
I find myself learning a ton of things I never knew before after watching all of these, great as always Thor
10:07 nice reference to your reflections with DaZeD :)
n0thing was on fire during the IBP invitational just saying.
just NA
I've wanted to go for Cloud9 as my favorite NA team ever since I started playing CS, and I've always loved n0thing as a person and even as a player.I honestly don't know why the team had to be built around original players though. If you listen to C9 comms, it seems like Freak may have been their best choice for IGL, considering he seems to be the one with game sense along with the one who gets players to focus. This would leave n0thing to do some more aggressive stuff like entry-fragging, like what Thorin says. I just would hate to see n0thing leave the team, but maybe they adjust roles. Thoughts anyone?
When will we get to see the new C9 and Liquid play?
"Maybe he becomes a watered down poor man's happy" I'm fucking dying rn lmao
Thoughts on Envyus' IGL switch?
Brilliant introduction to the video =)
do you think the talent in c9 (inc stewie) could work if they where around a different leader, such as cutler
Why is he wearing a winter jacket?
I love jordan because of his raps and real talk
What do you think about qz from tyloo?
IS IT COLD THERE , BRO ?
How did we get to Sean leaving because of N0thing. I saw on a Sean stream highlight that he left because of the scheduling issues (being overworked and sent to too many tournaments by C9 themselves) but if I remember correctly he grudgingly and without detailed hint at an internal issue - can anyone expand on that?
On an off-topic, since AdreN is the only player on Liquid that seems to be decent/okay in a team full of NA stars, if he were to be cut who do you think could replace his role as IGL that is a better player overall and is also a really good IGL or has great potential as an IGL?
n0thing knows where the bodies are
Can someone explain why he always has winter clothes on in his room, no trolls ples
doesnt pay for heating, cheaper to dress up
+Hubik2Spin its cold as fuck where he lives and he only has a small apartment which probably has shit or no heating.
+Hubik2Spin the joys of working as an esports journalist!
Thorin make a video of TACO's strugle in LANminosity pls
Heat bill gone up once again
why didn't liquid get sg@res instead of adren?
Any thoughts on ence esport, the new finnish team with allu
There are 4 core players from mixcat and allu, but ence is the new sponsor.
Since it was brought to new attention... Thoughts/Video on the de_cache footage of flusha, k0nfig? On a fictive basis, would Valver(knowing a certain amount of pro-players cheated) ever bust any players of this caliber, having earned this much money, won several events? How would everything influence the scene, and public image of the game? I could think of 1000 more questions and other questions which evolve from the multiple answers and I would love to hear/read some of your thoughts. - I am not a flusha hater but the recent de_cache scenes with solid evidence in terms of map buildup in combination with visual examples of how the area portals work has got me thinking.
IMO (short): Valve is too naive in their thinking and AC measures. (You can comment on this as well, if you'd like to)
Apart from that, I really enjoy watching your videos.
Hey, so out of curiosity, what do you think of Rainbow Six Siege now that ESL has announced the pro league? Do you think its a step in the right direction? Too little too late? Or meaningless in the face of the other problems it currently faces? And given its (admittedly loose) similarities and connections to games like CS, would you think about following it should it actually develop into a sizeable esport?
Talk about New TSM becuase im confused why they got rid of best danish team for 3rd teir yanks
+GodLikeBr4z He did a video like a week ago
The old tsm left because off communication issues within the organisation I believe.
+GodLikeBr4z he already did in previous vids.
There were some problems in the org which made the team leave to form a new org called astralis lead by their former manager in tsm and themselves.
He already made a video about it a week ago.
I wonder if Thoring is good at rhyming on the go.
Must suck not being able to afford heating
I'll bet you $500 on alphadraft, that Thorin made this video purely because of the sick pun in the title.
Turn on your heater.
Is your house really cold or how come you always wear outside clothing on? :O
there is N0thing left for c9 now :(
That intro was n0thing special
6/10
Anyone tell me why he always wears a coat?
Doesn't pay for heating
***** and why is that?
***** cost money
***** no shit, but he ears more than enough to pay for heating, its not that expensive.
***** save money live better walmart
-adren +seangares?
That would be goooodddd.... >:D
+ImJustDead would be sick if that happened
+ImJustDead Unfortunately, adren seems to be an immortal in liquid. Who knows why. Removing him for sgares would have been a great move.
+Hugh Spencer (dimeraRaven) adren supposably has a really good relationship with Liquid`s CEO which makes him the core of that squad
+Hugh Spencer (dimeraRaven) He knows all their sins.
sgares is in a new team
love that intro
Lmao mOE is on the same team as sgares?
I feel like if Immunity and Renegades have talent split between eachother, and if mixed could form an australian dream team.
what players would an aus dream team have according to you? surely Rickeh and Azr would be part of it?
Rickeh, AZR, Jks, Ustilo, and maybe SNYPER or SPUNJ if they want an in game leader, or if they want more fragging power probably Emagine.
Maybe someone like zewsy or topguN in that 5th
I'm kinda late but does The FaZe cs team have potential who needs to be replaced
+Eazy E Has some potential.. would take a miracle run to win a major
+Eazy E Has some potential.. would take a miracle run to win a major
+Danny Boj not a miracle, but it'd be very freaking impressive if they could win a major against someone like Envy, fnatic or na'vi
+Aphix _ Not A miracle. 8 miracles.
+Eazy E they lack a leader and fox is dead weight, so a proper IGL is the obvious move. pronax would be an amazing fit but he's been rejecting offers from good teams it seems. jkaem could also be switched out if he doesn't perform. they have some of the pieces in place for a sick nordic lineup.
Why do you always wear a jacket inside? Haha just something I noticed.
Definitely see C9 struggling. Picking up stewie just doesn't make sense for what they need. It seems like Shrouds big issue is motivation, he just seems to not give a fuck. They needed another good igl and need a way to get Shroud motivated to see if that will up his game play. I would love to see C9 do well but I just see some more roster changes coming.
Well said man.... well said
11/10 intro
Skips to 0:28...
Give him a fucking chance. He used to be look as the upcoming NA star. Give him a chance to actually prove he can be
He was already given multiple chances in C9
He's been playing GO for years. How many more fucking chances does he need?
+cock boi both
na dream team line-up: hiko, ska, n1tro, shroud, dazed
+mindbodylightsound10 yeah except Shroud really loves fucking with DaZeD just for the lols and rages
+Apathy 1 thats just fpl. 2 if ex-ibp was unbanned swag would be over shroud, and azk would be over n1tro
+mindbodylightsound10 I'd rather have JDM instead of ska, swag over shroud, and AZK over hiko.
Dalton Baker you're high as fuck if you think JDM is better then ska, and azk over hiko is not that bad of a idea, but not with a team with a play like n1tro in it
JDM is 10x more consistent than ska in my opinion and would do better with DaZeD calling
If I took a shot for every time this guy smacks his mouth when he swallows his spit, I would've died of alcohol poisoning 573846582 shots ago. Drink LOTS of water before you record Thorin
Oh Thooorin why can't you be at every dreamhack/esl etc? Love you at CSGO events :D
ESL and him aren't on speaking terms and Dreamhack is questionable.
He is an analyst at MLG Columbus
***** He doesn't hate Polaks.
***** He dislikes going there. That's it.
***** As a country, he doesn't like going there, but he has nothing against Polaks.
Don t you have heat in your house ????
That joke is getting old
Drpanda533 i'm serious, in every video he is with his closet on him.
complexity was 'relevant'
kappa
Thooorin still can't pay his heating bills, spending too much money on scarfs
Why pay for heating when you can get better coats?
Let stewie call strats for C9 and they'll never win anything again
TheKhaozSniper :)
So near the end where he said that n0thing is a likable person, i don't give a shit how likable a person is cause that doesn't win dude was a cancer in c9's team, with his strat calling it will be worse then the current tsm lineup which is dogshit. But i'm mainly basing that off of n0thing's inability to listen to any of the strats.
These damn intros Thorin... Haha
I don't know why people say that LG are NA. They're SA ffs. Brazil is a part of South America lol.
does any1 wonder why does he wear lik this all the time?
There are only three players from that Complexity lineup that are actually still good. One is banned forever, the other cant frag and is on low tier team and no longer wants to put the work in at his role and travel, the last is on one the best NA teams and even he has dropped in form from the days of Complexity. The remaining two are both pretty mediocre players, one is a dick with attitude problems and the other is masquerading as an IGL (you know the one guy on C9 who forgets strats he was just told about two seconds ago). If C9 dont have a coach they're gonna have a bad year, they traded literally the only successful NA IGL at Euro LANs for a pug star so lets see how that goes, one can only wonder how it will go...
The only person I said fragged worse than his complexity days was Hiko (on the best team in NA Liquid), sean improved but lets be honest he is no happy nor a quality rifler he should be a an IGL thats what he is good at.
sick skrilla m8
These intros are getting out of hand
There is n0thing wrong with them. Eyyyyy
You want the belt instead boyh? |°-°|\~~
+Mythrunes that pun was boring. It was just too s1mple
proved you wrong then
pls
nice.
Why do you have a Winter coat and scarf on while sitting inside your house? Pay the heat bill bro!
they should have done EVERYTHING to keep Sg@res imo he was the one who pulled them through have him coach then the rest would be fine
It's almost the same as the Hiko situation. Sgares finally realizes that C9 has no hope, and they will never have the discipline or be willing to make the tough decisions to become the best team. Might as well mould your own crew and work in a less stressful environment.
+nyphix4321 He left because his team wouldn't buy into his system or watch demos.
+nyphix4321 you all know Sean has joined a team with Moe?
yeah i mean if they kept an ingame leader i dunno even if semphis was still there but they are stuck with no igl and no coach and as thorin proves it must've been bad is sean is playing for a t2/3 pug team
*****
...'payme'
Is it cold in your house thorin? Is your heating broken? xD
cut loose footloose take of your Sunday shoes
Cloud9 is fucked. Hopefully LG win a major and make NA look good again!
Lg not part of na
+David Hunter They are based in NA, but all the players are from SA and it's an SA org. It's hardly NA. It's the same case with renegades, AU org, AU team, NA based.
+EnterTheRobinRealm LG is a NA org and Renegades too.
NA will still look shit, cos they need a Brazilian team to have a chance to win.
Fishy Stick true. NA is pathetic. The only team im excited for are Liquid and LG
Under 100 views clubber here!!
Clound9 please, cut n0thing, reform Seangres, hiko back
Thorin, Seangares didn't left just because of n0thing, see: th-cam.com/video/Hz4C4hozgvg/w-d-xo.html. So the statement that you are basically making that c9 choose to keep nothing above every other player is false (and if seangares decided to leave because of n0thing we still have 2 players who didn't, 50%). So only Hiko left because he had a problem with n0thing and from c9 standpoint if only one player has a problem with another player while the rest of the team hasn't, the player that has the problem in the first place (hiko) might be the problem itself. I agree that n0thing is not that well suited for an igl role and that the c9 team isn't that well balanced at the moment. But saying that c9 build the team arround n0thing is simply not true. Along the road decisions where made in best interest of the team but it is not if c9 choose from the start to keep n0thing above every other player. Thus the purpose and conclusion of this whole video is just bullshit.
+Maarten Demandt zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Make a video as good as Thorin, TLDR got lazy.
+Thooorin Everything you talked about went straight over his head lol
You write like my 9 year old brother. I can't understand wnything.
I think stewie jumped the gun joining C9, with n0thing as an IGL stew won't be able to learn and become a good player.. It'll be like shahzam all over again except stew is actually good
"Good"
#pray4skrilla
does thorin not have any form or heating hes always wearing his jacket in videos hahaha
n0thing can't call. it's actually laughable.
His yawn is soo weird
thoorin can you adopt me?
SCRILLA
MOREEE SKRILLA
Why are you always wearing a coat? Man pay your heating bill.
Yo n0thing body these fools
KICK NOTHING NOW
the massive gap in ur wardrobe is annoying and the handles have been put on out of place!
What the fuck are you wearing? lol