+CatnamedMittens „Michael Bialas” He explain it between 20th and 23th minute of the video what team should do when they struggle and are not on top. Practice practice and some more hard work bring results. Work on basics apply tactics run for Majors :) This at least should bring top 4 place with the slump in csgo we have right now.
Thorin have you seen Zeus's vlog from Katowice. In it NBK says to Zeus 'your more motivated watching me than my team playing'. Surely you feel some sympathy towards NBK, it seems like he really is trying but his team has given up on him and each other. What's your thoughts in that?
+GamingExpert HD On a previous interview with NBK the package was Apex and KennyS, who they really wanted and apparently the rumor, that Shox left because they were gonna drop his "friend" Smithzz, was false. And I don't think adding Shox would do much, he was REALLY good a long time a go, not so much now.
+Animii Doesn't matter if hes is better option than Kio or an "up-and-comer" (to which he totally is). What matter is that personality wise, some of the envyus boys and shox don't seem to get along. Shame.
Thorin, do u think u could put some english subtitles? Some of your fans are not a perfect english listener and u have a linda of hard accent. It would be awesome! Kind regards!
+Patrick Fiedler It's a noticeably northern accent, very different to the 'queen's english' accent many learn the language with. Why the hate? consider other perspectives
+Anj28t that wasnt supposed to be hate. im not even from an english speaking country and wouldnt consider myself as being good at english but have no problems understanding thorin. otoh i heard many other people speaking english with such a hard accent that i couldnt understand anything. thats why i think that thorin can be understood without much of a problem
When NBK took over as IGL for some reason I imagined it would be some super sick insane new Envy with strats designed specifically around their god tier players taking advantage of specific things on specific maps that only players with their mechanical skill could. Envy literally has all the pieces to dominate CS:GO atm but it feels like they don't know how or don't want to put in the work to make it happen.
If you bring in Ex6TenZ, you're basically rebuilding the old LDLC/VG lineup. You would have to cut Happy to bring him in, so it's quite possible that there's a 3rd French shuffle on the radar.
Hi Thorin! NBK said in an interview to Vakarm after Katowice that the working conditions in the gaming house in Nice were awful... The internet connection was so weak that they were not able to connect altogether, it would crash... the bootcamp was just a waste of time... About Devil, I've been following him for a certain time now... I'm absolutly not worried about his level... He is as good as Kio... I would recommend you to watch his games at Asus ROG Winter Assembly... he was the MVP of the Tournament... really impressive... I would be more worried about his role in the NV... I think he was the lurker in LDLC White... a role already taken by Happy...
In my opinion this sums up the issues 1. Relied on aim and pure skill over positioning and tactics to beat opponents 2. Relatively shallow map pool 3. Lack of consistency from top fraggers such as KennyS and NBK (Much to do with #1)
he's is very skillfull in terms of skill. He can get into any top french teams or even top teams such as faze or navi. The problem here is his unconsistency.
***** Yea thats why his teams have still been relevant in EU and better than any team out of NA. Besides its not like nV strats are working either, RUSH A/RUSH B those are some pretty complex strats they got wonder how they lost the last few LANs.
***** I have never seen them be overrated, they were never in the top 5 best teams but they were around the bottom of the top 10 because of how amazing KennyS was and how they were able to take maps off teams that had significantly more talent then they did. They werent overrated if anything their accomplishments have cast aside because LDLC and now nV won the majors. Titan literally beat fnatic and constantly took maps off them at LAN during fnatics most dominant era and all Titan had was KennyS. Why was Titan able to consistently make it out of groups and take maps off teams they never should have, Ex6tenz. Who is the most successful IGL in France Ex6tenz, since VG no French team has had a consistent run of dominance at the top level of CS even with very talented rosters.
***** If thats what you think then you dont understand how complex CS actually is and how Ex6tenz impacted Titans game. If you think Devil will have some amazing impact on nV that Ex6tenz wouldnt then your crazy. They needed a tactical mind not a random french player with little experience.
***** He is one of the most accomplished CS players in history and played on and with some of the greatest teams and players in all of CS, saying what you said is equivalent to "mad Kobe dickrider" either way hes a legend.
I wish you had info graphics so i can keep up with some of the history i wasn't around for. You move really quickly, i think info graphics would help viewers keep up.
Don't think shox or anyone from G2 would go to EnVy, even if this trial with DEVIL fails. Not because they don't want to switch or because there would be personality issues, but because ocelote has a 100k+ pricetag on every player in the current G2 lineup.
great vid as always. but i have to disagree when you talked about "nV's bad teamplay". this team had one of the best teamplay i have ever seen in this game (maybe only came after The Plow). remember at ESL Cologne they trounced TSM 12-3 on inferno T-side ? back then no one would ever thought that there's a team that could get 12 T rounds on inferno. Moses called them "the 4 men death squad" DaZeD called them "the wolf pack" because the way they took bombsite and managed trade kills was like beasts swarming their preys. Unlike The Plow that swarmed their opponents from every directions, nV just do the 4 men sticking together. much more simple but also effective.
I think this is lowkey the first big example of contract buyouts hindering the level of CS that can be reached. I for sure think they wanted shox to replace kio, since kio wasn't on entry role anyways, but the yung_ocelote buyout was probably too much. my speculation ofc
+Wessel “duizend” J Personally, i would've preferred if Ex6tenz replaced Kio. think about it, he's an INCREDIBLY TALENTED IGL, he's got an insane game sense plus his aim , ooh lalala, it's amazing!
+sk0g CSGO Productions +Mike Wu He might very well be referring to another point in time. Teams get better and worse at maps. So he might be no contradicting himself.
thooorin ever thought they just lose confidence after winning a major. With the line up with shox and smithzz they won a major to then never be seen again now they won cluj and fall apart
Dammmmmnnn Thooorin back at it again with the shit accents haha
+joshie1350 He is so funny though
+joshie1350 Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn +joshie1350 back at it again with the shit memes
+Charlie Gruhler to be honest the meme is MUCH better than the shit accents
+MTLA1984 I don't see the joke in that meme at all.
+Rick Nice avatar weeabu
Nice Run The Jewels Hoodie, Thorin. It's good to see you out of your regular coat!
Very trur
+Jerome Heath FUCK THE SLOW MO
+asuspower Run them jewels fast run them run them run them
I am waiting for the VP video too. They are a train wreck at the moment and idk what they should do to fix it.
+CatnamedMittens “Michael Bialas” maybe get someone like szpero? he's solid.
+CatnamedMittens „Michael Bialas” He explain it between 20th and 23th minute of the video what team should do when they struggle and are not on top. Practice practice and some more hard work bring results. Work on basics apply tactics run for Majors :) This at least should bring top 4 place with the slump in csgo we have right now.
+CatnamedMittens “Michael Bialas” Surely they can come back, they have 17th best player in the world NEO.....
VOZZIFY Lmfao.
-Byali +Michu :^]
"Force-buying is life"
- EnVyUs
Team WeForceBuyEveryRound
Loving the RTJ sweater Thorin!
Thorin have you seen Zeus's vlog from Katowice. In it NBK says to Zeus 'your more motivated watching me than my team playing'. Surely you feel some sympathy towards NBK, it seems like he really is trying but his team has given up on him and each other. What's your thoughts in that?
That Intro was DevilLike.
Get it? Cus Devil joined and people usually say Godlike....
ok.. I should stop.
+[Deerv] - Random Videos Yeah...
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*L* you're fired
+[Deerv] - Random Videos you tried
god damn thorin, a RTJ fan. I thought I had seen it all.
+Dusta Rhymes Just noticed 22 minutes in , epic :D
"They get in there, and get in that ass."
- Thorin, 2016
I think the fact that Shox and Smithzz come as a package is a massive boulder in the way of making a great french team :S
That and Shox's mindset about winning.
+CatnamedMittens “Michael Bialas” yep
+GamingExpert HD On a previous interview with NBK the package was Apex and KennyS, who they really wanted and apparently the rumor, that Shox left because they were gonna drop his "friend" Smithzz, was false.
And I don't think adding Shox would do much, he was REALLY good a long time a go, not so much now.
+Leo - shox is still a top 20 player and is a much better option than a slumping kio or a very inexperienced player.(lan wise)
+Animii Doesn't matter if hes is better option than Kio or an "up-and-comer" (to which he totally is). What matter is that personality wise, some of the envyus boys and shox don't seem to get along. Shame.
Nice run the jewels shirt m8.
Awesome work as always Thooorin, keep it up, loving the content
run the jewels sweater , nice
Maybe do a video on the current map pool, and how it should be shifted in order to make room for Nuke (if at all)? What should be revamped, etc.?
Inferno should really get banana to be widened a little bit, it's so easy to hold in MM because not everyone's a pro player
Can you make a video about Virtus Pro, and what they have to do to get better.
Can you talk about Virtus Pro and why they are struggling so much lately
have been struggeling*
+0utcast but VP still better than envyus bro , they only look bad when vs Fnatic which is the best team in the world
+keven collens very false.
+keven collens Errr. VP have been dropping for quite a bit alr.
Thorin, do u think u could put some english subtitles? Some of your fans are not a perfect english listener and u have a linda of hard accent. It would be awesome! Kind regards!
He will not. It takes 3x as much time to do it.
hard accent? you havent heard many english speaking people have you? his english is decent with only a slight accent...
+Patrick Fiedler It's a noticeably northern accent, very different to the 'queen's english' accent many learn the language with. Why the hate? consider other perspectives
+Anj28t that wasnt supposed to be hate. im not even from an english speaking country and wouldnt consider myself as being good at english but have no problems understanding thorin. otoh i heard many other people speaking english with such a hard accent that i couldnt understand anything. thats why i think that thorin can be understood without much of a problem
+Patrick Fiedler "his english is decent" seriously? he's a fucking journalist without any editor.
You make my day Thorin, thanks bro
Kioooooooo :((((
+Franciskid I like this comment
Deviiiiiiiil :DDDDD
Do a video on your opinion of having different leagues for female pros
Kitchen League , cleaning League
+GoPaLi League my deeg
+GoPaLi Oh that's funny.
And fucking league. That's about it.
Feeding league, shitter league
Run the jewels hoodie. Im done throoin. You never cease to amaze me.
at first i thought envyus signed devilwalk but then i realized it was just devil.
Devilwalk retired fam :(
+gökberk kaya Wrong. I think he is playing in Team Ancient with Pronax and Schneider
+guy111120 yeah he moved to that team but he left it because of a wrist injury
+guy111120 Devilwalk retires from CS:GO
www.thescoreesports.com/csgo/news/6266
+gökberk kaya Alright. Didn't know that. Cheers!
Hahaha I always loved those French intros. Remember one episode where Thorin talked like that for half episode
It was when Apex returned I think.
WHERE IS THE COAT AND SCALF
When NBK took over as IGL for some reason I imagined it would be some super sick insane new Envy with strats designed specifically around their god tier players taking advantage of specific things on specific maps that only players with their mechanical skill could. Envy literally has all the pieces to dominate CS:GO atm but it feels like they don't know how or don't want to put in the work to make it happen.
He hasn't had much time to do anything I believe.
new thorin vs reddit plz
what does he say at 31:53 ? i personally.......??
+Miguel Brito yeah I was wondering too, I think he says he wants G2 to cut ScreaM for kio but I'm not sure
the best intro so far!
Can someone please tell me if kio is joining g2 and if so for who ? Ty
If you bring in Ex6TenZ, you're basically rebuilding the old LDLC/VG lineup. You would have to cut Happy to bring him in, so it's quite possible that there's a 3rd French shuffle on the radar.
I really hope it comes back
+Justin Mitchell Nah, ex6tenz over devil.
Hi Thorin! NBK said in an interview to Vakarm after Katowice that the working conditions in the gaming house in Nice were awful... The internet connection was so weak that they were not able to connect altogether, it would crash... the bootcamp was just a waste of time...
About Devil, I've been following him for a certain time now... I'm absolutly not worried about his level... He is as good as Kio...
I would recommend you to watch his games at Asus ROG Winter Assembly... he was the MVP of the Tournament... really impressive...
I would be more worried about his role in the NV... I think he was the lurker in LDLC White... a role already taken by Happy...
In my opinion this sums up the issues
1. Relied on aim and pure skill over positioning and tactics to beat opponents
2. Relatively shallow map pool
3. Lack of consistency from top fraggers such as KennyS and NBK (Much to do with #1)
That run the jewels hoodie made my life complete. Best rap group in this day and age.
Thorin video, GoT trailer....this was a good day
Kioshima was a really strong player wasn't he? He was much more consistent than some other pros right?
he's is very skillfull in terms of skill. He can get into any top french teams or even top teams such as faze or navi. The problem here is his unconsistency.
Yeah he was one of the most consistent players I've seen in the past 6 months. Never saw him below 15 frags
+PlatinumOp he recently did a lot of shit things look at his KDA recents evens and I know what I'm speaking about kio is one of my best player
Hey Thorin,
Do you research for these videos? Or do you just know everything off by heart?
You can see he is reading stuff while talking. His memory is amazing though.
+ItsCronk I think he does that for stats.
nice shirt run the jewels where did u buy it?
Where is his sweater from?
was kioshima kicked or did he just leave himself?
Wasn't Alpha Draft acquired by Draft Kings recently?
Doubt it.
Alpha Draft was actually acquired by FanDuel I believe.
when will you do a video on Niko
can you make a video about iem lol, thoughts about skt?
The RTJ splash sent me into a tizzy, son.
You didn't talk about the weird ticks that DEV1L has
Kinda wished they got Ex6tenz, lose some firepower but they finally match the talent with the super tactical mind and leader which is what they need.
***** Yea thats why his teams have still been relevant in EU and better than any team out of NA. Besides its not like nV strats are working either, RUSH A/RUSH B those are some pretty complex strats they got wonder how they lost the last few LANs.
***** O yea that to so your constantly broke and only winning rounds with "GLOCKS" lol.
***** I have never seen them be overrated, they were never in the top 5 best teams but they were around the bottom of the top 10 because of how amazing KennyS was and how they were able to take maps off teams that had significantly more talent then they did. They werent overrated if anything their accomplishments have cast aside because LDLC and now nV won the majors. Titan literally beat fnatic and constantly took maps off them at LAN during fnatics most dominant era and all Titan had was KennyS. Why was Titan able to consistently make it out of groups and take maps off teams they never should have, Ex6tenz. Who is the most successful IGL in France Ex6tenz, since VG no French team has had a consistent run of dominance at the top level of CS even with very talented rosters.
***** If thats what you think then you dont understand how complex CS actually is and how Ex6tenz impacted Titans game. If you think Devil will have some amazing impact on nV that Ex6tenz wouldnt then your crazy. They needed a tactical mind not a random french player with little experience.
***** He is one of the most accomplished CS players in history and played on and with some of the greatest teams and players in all of CS, saying what you said is equivalent to "mad Kobe dickrider" either way hes a legend.
in which team is kio now?
Where is his jacket? :D
guys plz tell me is this a livestream highlight or a video?
Video
video
Ive never seen thorin stream?
But yeah he enables the font on all of his vids ;p
THORIN ROCKING THE RTJ SHIRT DAMN. jklmao but for real I didn't think thorin could get cooler. then he did.
I wish you had info graphics so i can keep up with some of the history i wasn't around for.
You move really quickly, i think info graphics would help viewers keep up.
so, which g2 player is getting kicked?
smithz probably to LDLC White if k1o goes to G2
+MrBretu1 I think shox will want to follow him because they're bffs or whatever. It drags him down honestly
qwertydoll I don't think they would risk shox leaving so unfortunately that means existence or rpk gets kicked.
+Alexander “SeacowSammy” Hall hopefully rpk.
+Alexander “SeacowSammy” Hall ex6tence won't get kicked, he is too smart and is stepping it up in fragging so I think rpk over scream
Thoorin with the RTJ sweater.
So Thooorin finally bought a heater?
GOD Devil > BOTshima
not really but pun intended
+Andrew Valentin Twitch chat?
+Asphen Schrub ikr
+Jordanfast5 M I N E C R A F T E R S
+Andrew Valentin E-L-E-G-I-G-G-L-E
Does Thorin have cancer on his left shoulder/back?
Lol what
what the hell ??
He keeps moving his left shoulder like he's got something trying to come out of it.
I don't think getting rid of Kio will change a lot
OMG THORIN IS RUNNING THEM JEWELS
Thoorin I love your run the jewels hoodie
nice video but can you do a video on smartest cs go players and best matches
Don't think shox or anyone from G2 would go to EnVy, even if this trial with DEVIL fails. Not because they don't want to switch or because there would be personality issues, but because ocelote has a 100k+ pricetag on every player in the current G2 lineup.
Thooorin with the Killer Mike shirt.
Damn that run the jewels hoodie tho
great vid as always.
but i have to disagree when you talked about "nV's bad teamplay".
this team had one of the best teamplay i have ever seen in this game (maybe only came after The Plow).
remember at ESL Cologne they trounced TSM 12-3 on inferno T-side ? back then no one would ever thought that there's a team that could get 12 T rounds on inferno.
Moses called them "the 4 men death squad" DaZeD called them "the wolf pack" because the way they took bombsite and managed trade kills was like beasts swarming their preys.
Unlike The Plow that swarmed their opponents from every directions, nV just do the 4 men sticking together. much more simple but also effective.
"Had"
+박현재 yep agreed 'had' ,
welcome to the present
FUCKING ENVYUS WHY U SUCK NOW FUCKK
Dope RTJ hoodie Thorin!
Thoorin never mentioned a pronax era ... o wait
The RTJ hoodie.
Fucking love Thorin.
Thorin could you maybe get a better webcam? Would be nice because you make many of these videos anyways
kio > devil anyday
Devil Will be support
+Lofts wasn't the teams choice kio left.
+Dalton Baker wait kio left?
+Mendaye ....
+Dalton Baker I think kio is a backup.
holy fuck thooorin rocking the rock the jewels jersey ?
Know he was a hip hop fan from all the quotes he makes but thats pretty sick
wtf you changed cloth's?
Rip in peace Kio, the fans will miss you, thorin will not, envy pls give fnatic a run for their money it's not funny anymore.
i honestly would've switched kenny, even though i love him
+Immanuel Kant I would of switched out apex he is way too inconsistent
Sinoops wtf mate he is the only one doing shit
+Sinoops mate do you even play counterstrike, saying apex is inconsistent is like saying fnatic isn't going to win the major, it's just not true
+Sinoops And the problem with all of you is that Kenny and Apex are like a pair, they want to play with each other.
Thoooriiiin :)! good vid. RTJ Hoodie also!!!!!!!!
Run the Jewels
That Run The Jewels hoodie doe.
only 360p atm. but i want Thoooorin now so fuck the good quality i wont wait
*Insert "Wheres your coat Thorin?" joke here*
+CatnamedMittens «Michael Bialas» I was gonna say the same. Plebs not knowing he's not at home.. :D
Ohhhhh hellllooooo Michael you certainly are popping up everywhere for me
Please translate intro I dont know french
I think this is lowkey the first big example of contract buyouts hindering the level of CS that can be reached.
I for sure think they wanted shox to replace kio, since kio wasn't on entry role anyways, but the yung_ocelote buyout was probably too much.
my speculation ofc
+Wessel “duizend” J Personally, i would've preferred if Ex6tenz replaced Kio. think about it, he's an INCREDIBLY TALENTED IGL, he's got an insane game sense plus his aim , ooh lalala, it's amazing!
Re-watching after Envyus last place :(
kenny fucking loved that stick man.
Run the Jewels. Yes Thorin!!
LOL'd when he said when they didn't even think about force-buying. "Force buying is life" xD
Since nv and fnatic do it mm guys be like: We gotta do that aswell!
dank sweater thorin
Focus. FOCUS!!
#makeNVgreatagain
#MakeNaCsGreatAgain FeelsBadMan
+Trainer RedCS waaait was it ever gr8?!
#makeNAdecentpls
"Yes, Torin"
10/10
One small thing: They did beat Astralis at Gameshow, They 2-0'd them in the semi-finals.
Wait a minute, thoorin, u said that one of fnatics worst maps were mirage so why in this vid are u contradicting urself??
+Mike Wu He does this sometimes. I guess he messes his facts up sometimes. He is wrong :^)
+sk0g CSGO Productions +Mike Wu He might very well be referring to another point in time. Teams get better and worse at maps. So he might be no contradicting himself.
At the time they were good on mirage, now less so. Atleast if you look at the winrate.
Finnaly got a heater
Rip Kio, was my favorite player before everything went to shit :(
He was top 10 imo before he died
Run The Jewels !
I feel like Scream for Apex is the next move. kennyS, NBK, and happy are too good to split up.
apEX is a better player than ScreaM
+TheDennySlim Wtf Apex is one of the best players in the world!
skip add 0:19
The video is an ad Kappa
+ranked_aram_gg who the fuck skips the alpha draft advertisements that thooorin does. some people only come for that.
+Snow blaze who doesn't use question marks?????????????????????????????
thooorin ever thought they just lose confidence after winning a major. With the line up with shox and smithzz they won a major to then never be seen again now they won cluj and fall apart
Time
Moves
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Scrilla is super hot
THAT INTRO!!!!
Envy should have waited ontill after the MLG major in my opinion, to make a change
He isn't actually cut from the team.
Sick run the jewels hoodie
RUN THE JEWELS YEAH BOIIIII
[*] kio
Kio to G2? Would be sick, I'm sure they can kick someone they don't have a team of goons
+whitesox 49 shox and smithzzz are a package deal
+Treman Stuart +1
Replace Ex6tenz with Kio and make Ex6tenz a coach