"...although I can't see there being many for this one since when have my carrier tier lists ever been controversial?" _casts a furtive glance at Perseus fans_
Perseus isn't here... But I'd at least say she's in cute tier. Or maybe B, simply for the cross-fleet heal, which is, to my knowledge, still the only one of its kind in the game. Or in other words, its good for forgetful commanders who forgot which fleet they have selected operating Op-Si to not have to undergo unnecessary repairs.
Ive seen some other places folks say Perseus is Unicorn, but better in every way. Now, I feel I'm still too new to offer a real opinion on that, but still somewhat surprising she's not even mentioned (and judging from other comments, it's a bit of a meme with this creator?)
Perseus has NO damage and no real support other than "just heal". Unicorn is better because she can heal just as well but also does better AA and has vanguard RLD buff. By all means at endgame, perseus is actually worthless, so there is no spot on the list, and yet there's nonstop waves of people who won't shut up about perseus who refuse to acknowledge there's better stuff out there.
@@KyonV13 I mean, considering how low I'm putting her on the list, I think I've addressed the point of "there's better out there" without needing to say anything. However, she's not bad enough to remove from the list entirely, particularly considering she performs just as well as most of the ships in Cute tier(who usually don't have utility other than damage anyway, and don't show up in end game unless someone wants to bring them for waifu over meta, and Perseus *is* cute.) Having said this, if this is in response to the comment below mine... Well, Disregard most of this message, honestly, and sorry for wasting your time, lol. I just figure I should defend my own comment on the subject. At least I'm actually providing a reason for placement in the list, other than the already assumed sheer self-fleet heal, which is whatever at this point.
Those who lost in PvP vs Ranger when she triggered multiple times in a roll know exactly how dangerous she can be, but she gotta be in the mood for blood. Threat well the teachers CVs, they can make you remember your place in no time if they really want to.
Klaudia is pretty nuts and you don't need to go crazy with Ryza ships since she only really needs one partner imo. Reisalin Stout is an easy pair for her and since her damage favors shorter mob fights it goes along with Klaudia's healer archetype they also supply each other with more than enough of the juice they need for the skins to work. But I can see how running Reisalin as a pair would lower her on the tier. Although I'd like to know your thoughts on Indomitable since I saw Albion on the list. Indomitable loses the Royal navy bias in favor of self buff and burns that you would not normally get with a carrier fleet that and regardless her skill burns have a unique id iirc. But lacks in detection gauge and vanguard support. Indomitable also has 6 fighters which does have its uses for w15 whether in the fleet or support fleet.
Klaudia is probably as good as, if not better than Unicorn, but needing another Ryza character to do it is a big drawback. Though in a full Ryza fleet, she makes the team practically unkillable. I started right around the Ryza collab, and the full Ryza fleet carried me through pretty much the entire game. It's actually very solid. Not the top tier of any one thing for sure, but if you want a fleet you can slot into almost any situation and still do relatively well, you can't really go wrong with them. It's always been my go-to mob fleet for blowing through OpSi.
My testing has her slighly above unicorn in arbitrer fights without ryza. Considering she gets one less airstrike, it's pretty good. Her accuracy is about the samedi as unicorn without anti air turret but the fact she has 2 slots with only two planes is kinda Bad. Overall, more of a sidegrade.
I'm kinda confused as to why perseus isn't even on the list either but let's be honest why bother running her if u could run unicorn retro she's just way better the double preload of perseus is just over killing followed by a ridiculously long reload time whereas unicorn has short reloads vanguard reload buff and fantastic aa support
Because Unicorn is just straight up better on top of being much easier to obtain, she can quite literally be obtained day 1 from the guild shop whereas with Perseus you are relying on RNG from the events and the special pool. There's also not very much incentives to run them together, in fact in most cases I would argue it's a detriment, so you would almost never run Perseus ever outside of personal preference.
Unicorn it's way better than Perseus and easier to get so yeah.. even though you could say Perseus is like T 0.5 and Unicorn T0 on top of that so why bother with another carrier healer that do similar job but slightly worse, should be atleast on A on the tier list
I have used Centaur, Chise and Klaudia a lot I would consider them around A and Klaudia S(She has very good healings and a emergency healing also) Great tierlist
Where are the clowns trash talking York2 now? All she needs is a partner. Independence is the best source of Supporting Wings. That alone should warrant players considering her, if they ever plan to use CVs.
wait there's people talking York2 bad? jeez they must have been living under a rock since she was in the previous best cv fleet york2 kearsarge implacable before Nakhimov and amagi cv release 😂
@@faerie7dragon oh wow that's crazy york2 was decent before kearsarge but ever since kearsarge she's been incredible maybe it was from before kearsarge released cuz before that she was awkward to use in fleets great potential but difficult to use conditions even if that's the case tho least relevant UR would still be wrong given drake and warspite retro existed
Ark royal is not B. Her damage is better than Shangri or Enty when her skill doesn't proc, and on par with Shinano and other rainbows when it does. Plus, she has slow, plus she buffs avangard. She is an excellent boss killer, and also you can abuse her second skill on manual. She also is easy to time for Helena. For me she is an S tier for her cost, but she deserves at least A.
She has a lot of issues though. She doesn’t deal much damage if her skill doesn’t proc, that skill only has a 25% chance to proc, she can’t equip fighters so she’s not good against light and medium armor bosses, her vanguard buff is locked to dds and royal navy vanguards, and most importantly Avp exists. B tier seems fair.
@@Phoenix-616 its also funny that the kid talks about "damage better than shagri la or enty when their skills dont proc" when enty is literally 70% and thats actually quite consistent, whereas 25% of AC would barely proc once or twice per fight, which is not comparable in damage
@@Phoenix-616 it's not "locked", it's better than just nation buff or just dd buff, lmao. Outside of La-9, torpedo bombers deal comparable to messers damage(5-10% diff), and she has better efficiencies. Also, her AA debuff translates to about 4-5% increase in received damage from aircraft. That's not much, but it does matter. Enty and Shangri are selfish, while Ark Royal buffs your vanguard and your main and slows down enemy for your other cvs and her damage is not that bad, better than any other cv of the same rarity(except maybe Joffre). And again, you can abuse her second skill on manual, since it doubles All her damage for 10 sec and not just the airstrike that procced it. She deserves to be at least on the same place as Enty and Shangri, since she is specialist, but she is still better overall.
@@umitatsuya2492 first: do not just assume my age pls, I am sorry if my English is bad, it's not my first language. Second: I meant she deals comparable damage even when HER second skill doesn't proc, and theirs does. And when she pops, it really sets her damage through the roof. And she brings more than just dmg to the team, when Shangri and Enty do not. That's all
Probably a better plwce i can ask this but been out of meta for over a year as well as may have skipped U52 whoops but working back to getting into game instead of just afk dont care and discovered your channel. Any advice for want to create two bossing fleets. One around Yorktown II+ laffey II. The other around Nagato+Shimakaze. Is it optimal? No but any advice on who to try fitting. York+laffey obviously being light maybe medium Nagato squad being heavy
@@KyonV13 Yea no place for Perseus anymore. Once Uni got her retro it was game over for her. Even then still other ships I would take over Perseus like Volga, Zuihou or Aquila.
Do you have any video explaining how to gear up ships? Like what should you be looking at while gearing up a ship and then decide which gear is good with it.
i will simp for my girl AvP for a moment and simply ask this:assuming that we face cruiser boss,isn't she an S tier in that case,or is she still being outperformed ?
Jimmy talked about it in either the last tier list or the review. Basically, Vanguards don't really change much, where as there will be specific fights where BBs or CVs are better than the other.
Klaudia Valentz provides a 5% heal at the start of every battle (blue skill). When a ship falls below 30% due to battle damage, Klaudia heals that ship 5%. I paired her with Unicorn in the Chapter 15 mob fleet.
Long Island is my one and only Wife in the game, wasn't expecting her to be so high on the CN tier list lol She is good for a CVL, like really good for the cost, but I only managed to get her all the way to W13 with heavy min maxing. She isn't TN like the EN tier list says but also not top tier lmao
Yea no passion from these people. There are preliminaries on their discord though and if you use the search bar you can find good info. Don't talk with them tho just a friendly advice lmao
enterprise is not cuter then Shangri-La. Shang got them Megane bonus, so she wins by default. Also i would place Impero at lest in B tier maybe low A, her qunique way of keeping your backline alife got me easy wins in chaper 14 and 15 with no UR fleets. and her dmg is passable as well.
Would chkalov do more damage in a soyuz/nahkimov/chkolov fleet over soyuz/nahkimov/amagi (cv) ? (not making the argument that she is better than amagi i was just curious if she would perform better than amagi in this fleet case).
(reposted in case ur lazy for the repsonce video x) ) i was thinking thast if we get enougth buff for cv taihou might be (or maybe not) a better option than haku taihou has the best barrage in all the game (240*18 targeted torp) but relly on luck to get the best part (the augment make it easier) and with all the 3 triggers she has something around the damage of a shinano and that without any selfbuff (nearly), just the barrage and pure damage i didnt do the calculation but she is far more "receptive" to buffs compared to a ship with a weaker barrage and more selfbuff like haku i wonder at what point she becomes better than haku in term of buff (if she does become at a point) i thougth about this with the introduction of amagi witch give her 15% dmg to her barrage
about "efficiency of the buffs" i think there are more ship that has high base dmg without any self buff that migth be better than we think with the addition of new buff because they scale better with those buffs like ibuki, ayanami or the ddg but in the backlane
I would be more concerned for Taihou, because as a ship that relies on her barrage for serious damage, she doesn't scale with gear as well. As better gear is released, ships with strong plane loadouts will benefit considerably more than her.
You dont play maneul cause thats too much work but rangers rng is fine? Smh. Also, percy percy is S tier in healer stack fleets ( and she has a cross fleet wich may be minute, but can still min max heals) ((((The rest is fine. For no reason I have an issue with carriers where theyll sometimes do way less damage than theyre supposed to for no reason. But theyre fine in pvp always for some reason. Especially with shinano i think. So im temped to say shina is too high, but thats cause my game is weird))))
Ranger being good is a meme and he's always disliked Perseus for being objectively worse than Unicorn for almost any situation you would need her in. And using both of them is pretty much always overkill.
@Zajice oh I know the reasons why Jimmy placed them where he did. And heal stack is not pretty much always overkill. I know by playing fleets with just uni, for heals, and some with uni percy for some with a uni plus decent heal, decent damage hybrid, and some with uni plus all damage. I found that uni and percy is very solid together (especially on manuel). Depending on the gear you have and ships you have and all, only uni and overkill damage is best, but if you don't have the ships or gear for that, percy is an extremely solid option. I'm 15-4 and everything btw, just telling you so you know I'm not talking out my azz with no actual experience Uni independence percy is also a great 13-4 hard mode mob fleet
Mfw some of the community is still stucked at 2021 and praise Perseus like hot shit. Have you tried chapter 14-15? She starts showing alot of issues right there. Low AVI+shit plane efficiency+90% extra reload time. 2 burst heals, and then what? Most fights up there are long af and in chapter 15 her heals aren't saving the vanguard anything when tons of planes rushing towards your backline and 100+ torps aiming at your vanguards. In higher chapter you want consistent heal not burst heals and then gets locked by reload time for the rest of the fight when your vanguard is continuously taking damage all the time There's a good reason Unicorn is prefer 99% of the time.
When u forget Carriers cuz they take a million years to get MVP outside of Boss cuz Alsace preload lol Ngl hate carriers cuz dmg is kinda wonky with probability to hit and slight chances of them whiffing and theres not many ships that can do slow that are easy to get makes it kinda annoying altho i just built AvP for this reason gonna take a few weeks to get her up to a useable level for OpSi.
The reasoning on Ranger is the most sane argument I have heard in any tier list. This is objectively the best tierlist for this sole reason.
"...although I can't see there being many for this one since when have my carrier tier lists ever been controversial?"
_casts a furtive glance at Perseus fans_
Why no persues!😢
@@gilanorodrigues7049u must be new here
yeah did a double take when she wasnt even on the list at all when shes pretty darn useful has been for years
Clicked for Azur Lane, stayed for carbanara recipe
The fact that Enterprise still on top tier since day 1 is amazing
Atleast bro is consistent with Perseus.
😂😂
Why Perseus 😢
Graf and Zeppy in the Cute tier ... Thank you so much
whoa, hold it right there. Enterprise cuter than Shangri-La? don't you see her cute glasses?
Kuudere > megane
@@joseramirez-hh2swcap
Theseus should easily be in Tier B as she is better vs Heavy then Taihou while also having a nice out of ammo buff for mobbing
I love that Independence still kicking ass in 2024
And she will probably get an augment despite not needing one, which should be really nice.
Stop trolling with Ranger. Bottom of S Tier? Infinite damage means she should be FIRST in S tier if not her own EX tier above.
Sad San Jacinto isnt in thr Cute tier list despite how sweet and "girlfriend-like" she is.
finally a fellow Ranger enjoyer
A common tier ship with infinite damage? What can possibly go wrong?
Perseus isn't here... But I'd at least say she's in cute tier.
Or maybe B, simply for the cross-fleet heal, which is, to my knowledge, still the only one of its kind in the game. Or in other words, its good for forgetful commanders who forgot which fleet they have selected operating Op-Si to not have to undergo unnecessary repairs.
Ive seen some other places folks say Perseus is Unicorn, but better in every way.
Now, I feel I'm still too new to offer a real opinion on that, but still somewhat surprising she's not even mentioned (and judging from other comments, it's a bit of a meme with this creator?)
Perseus has NO damage and no real support other than "just heal". Unicorn is better because she can heal just as well but also does better AA and has vanguard RLD buff. By all means at endgame, perseus is actually worthless, so there is no spot on the list, and yet there's nonstop waves of people who won't shut up about perseus who refuse to acknowledge there's better stuff out there.
@@KyonV13 I mean, considering how low I'm putting her on the list, I think I've addressed the point of "there's better out there" without needing to say anything. However, she's not bad enough to remove from the list entirely, particularly considering she performs just as well as most of the ships in Cute tier(who usually don't have utility other than damage anyway, and don't show up in end game unless someone wants to bring them for waifu over meta, and Perseus *is* cute.)
Having said this, if this is in response to the comment below mine... Well, Disregard most of this message, honestly, and sorry for wasting your time, lol. I just figure I should defend my own comment on the subject. At least I'm actually providing a reason for placement in the list, other than the already assumed sheer self-fleet heal, which is whatever at this point.
Luna's pretty good in trash, airstrike at 10s and 20s, barrage is priority target and has splash, good for killing chibis.
"if you have clicked on this video..." damn, guess you caught me, this is the best tier list
Just cute tier makes this tier list the best I have ever seen.
wish there's a site for jimmy tierlists
Yea esp since the community one has been abandoned.
Great list as always
Those who lost in PvP vs Ranger when she triggered multiple times in a roll know exactly how dangerous she can be, but she gotta be in the mood for blood. Threat well the teachers CVs, they can make you remember your place in no time if they really want to.
Wasp better be in her own tier 😡
Where did you get your phd in "this stuff"?
Klaudia is pretty nuts and you don't need to go crazy with Ryza ships since she only really needs one partner imo. Reisalin Stout is an easy pair for her and since her damage favors shorter mob fights it goes along with Klaudia's healer archetype they also supply each other with more than enough of the juice they need for the skins to work. But I can see how running Reisalin as a pair would lower her on the tier.
Although I'd like to know your thoughts on Indomitable since I saw Albion on the list. Indomitable loses the Royal navy bias in favor of self buff and burns that you would not normally get with a carrier fleet that and regardless her skill burns have a unique id iirc. But lacks in detection gauge and vanguard support. Indomitable also has 6 fighters which does have its uses for w15 whether in the fleet or support fleet.
Klaudia is probably as good as, if not better than Unicorn, but needing another Ryza character to do it is a big drawback. Though in a full Ryza fleet, she makes the team practically unkillable. I started right around the Ryza collab, and the full Ryza fleet carried me through pretty much the entire game. It's actually very solid. Not the top tier of any one thing for sure, but if you want a fleet you can slot into almost any situation and still do relatively well, you can't really go wrong with them. It's always been my go-to mob fleet for blowing through OpSi.
My testing has her slighly above unicorn in arbitrer fights without ryza. Considering she gets one less airstrike, it's pretty good. Her accuracy is about the samedi as unicorn without anti air turret but the fact she has 2 slots with only two planes is kinda Bad. Overall, more of a sidegrade.
@@Zajice I use the 4 SR Ryza ships for OPSI mob + Independence + a DDG yeah
Yo, have I heard "my carbonara recipe"? Video plz
Where is Persueus 😂
I'm kinda confused as to why perseus isn't even on the list either but let's be honest why bother running her if u could run unicorn retro she's just way better the double preload of perseus is just over killing followed by a ridiculously long reload time whereas unicorn has short reloads vanguard reload buff and fantastic aa support
Because Unicorn is just straight up better on top of being much easier to obtain, she can quite literally be obtained day 1 from the guild shop whereas with Perseus you are relying on RNG from the events and the special pool. There's also not very much incentives to run them together, in fact in most cases I would argue it's a detriment, so you would almost never run Perseus ever outside of personal preference.
Jimmy hates Percy and because there are other ships who can do her job better, that's all the reason he'd need to exclude her.
Unicorn it's way better than Perseus and easier to get so yeah.. even though you could say Perseus is like T 0.5 and Unicorn T0 on top of that so why bother with another carrier healer that do similar job but slightly worse, should be atleast on A on the tier list
Ah the classic ☕️
I have used Centaur, Chise and Klaudia a lot
I would consider them around A and Klaudia S(She has very good healings and a emergency healing also)
Great tierlist
Where are the clowns trash talking York2 now? All she needs is a partner.
Independence is the best source of Supporting Wings.
That alone should warrant players considering her, if they ever plan to use CVs.
wait there's people talking York2 bad? jeez they must have been living under a rock since she was in the previous best cv fleet york2 kearsarge implacable before Nakhimov and amagi cv release 😂
@@ramon5344 In the vanguards video, there was a few talking down Yorky, as the least relevant UR.
@@faerie7dragon oh wow that's crazy york2 was decent before kearsarge but ever since kearsarge she's been incredible maybe it was from before kearsarge released cuz before that she was awkward to use in fleets great potential but difficult to use conditions even if that's the case tho least relevant UR would still be wrong given drake and warspite retro existed
@@faerie7dragon that's crazy lmao. the least relevant UR would be warspite.
We all know Ranger is secret SSS tier
Centaur is pretty good with her augment. I'd recommend a Implacable/Albion/Centaur fleet if you wanna give her a spin.
this list made me realize that i don't have enough good cv's
And here I have all of them and still don't know how to use them properly lmfao
Until this video didn't even consider Shangri-la an option. Why isn't she talked about more ?
Probably because she was unspectacular on release, but got a significant buff with her augment. Guess the aug flew under the radar for most people.
Nakhimov has been the real star of PR7. Have been very disappointed with Napoli
Ark royal is not B. Her damage is better than Shangri or Enty when her skill doesn't proc, and on par with Shinano and other rainbows when it does. Plus, she has slow, plus she buffs avangard. She is an excellent boss killer, and also you can abuse her second skill on manual. She also is easy to time for Helena. For me she is an S tier for her cost, but she deserves at least A.
Yea no
She has a lot of issues though. She doesn’t deal much damage if her skill doesn’t proc, that skill only has a 25% chance to proc, she can’t equip fighters so she’s not good against light and medium armor bosses, her vanguard buff is locked to dds and royal navy vanguards, and most importantly Avp exists. B tier seems fair.
@@Phoenix-616 its also funny that the kid talks about "damage better than shagri la or enty when their skills dont proc" when enty is literally 70% and thats actually quite consistent, whereas 25% of AC would barely proc once or twice per fight, which is not comparable in damage
@@Phoenix-616 it's not "locked", it's better than just nation buff or just dd buff, lmao. Outside of La-9, torpedo bombers deal comparable to messers damage(5-10% diff), and she has better efficiencies. Also, her AA debuff translates to about 4-5% increase in received damage from aircraft. That's not much, but it does matter. Enty and Shangri are selfish, while Ark Royal buffs your vanguard and your main and slows down enemy for your other cvs and her damage is not that bad, better than any other cv of the same rarity(except maybe Joffre). And again, you can abuse her second skill on manual, since it doubles All her damage for 10 sec and not just the airstrike that procced it. She deserves to be at least on the same place as Enty and Shangri, since she is specialist, but she is still better overall.
@@umitatsuya2492 first: do not just assume my age pls, I am sorry if my English is bad, it's not my first language. Second: I meant she deals comparable damage even when HER second skill doesn't proc, and theirs does. And when she pops, it really sets her damage through the roof. And she brings more than just dmg to the team, when Shangri and Enty do not. That's all
not having Argus in cute tier is criminal.
Probably a better plwce i can ask this but been out of meta for over a year as well as may have skipped U52 whoops but working back to getting into game instead of just afk dont care and discovered your channel. Any advice for want to create two bossing fleets. One around Yorktown II+ laffey II. The other around Nagato+Shimakaze. Is it optimal? No but any advice on who to try fitting. York+laffey obviously being light maybe medium Nagato squad being heavy
To show how lazy i was whoops um. When did Elridge get a retro? Also not an option
Perseus is also a carrier isn’t she? What tier would she be?
F for Forgotten Tier
Just use Unicorn man.
@@KyonV13 Yea no place for Perseus anymore. Once Uni got her retro it was game over for her. Even then still other ships I would take over Perseus like Volga, Zuihou or Aquila.
Hakuryuus big Benifit is she gets Both Amagis and Shinanos Buffs.
Do you have any video explaining how to gear up ships? Like what should you be looking at while gearing up a ship and then decide which gear is good with it.
I have in depth equipment guides on my channel, currently only for primary equipment of main fleet ships
Someday they will give percy and augment that will make her the best again
i will simp for my girl AvP for a moment and simply ask this:assuming that we face cruiser boss,isn't she an S tier in that case,or is she still being outperformed ?
Ranger enjoyer LES GOOOO
Where is persius I know you hater her But can you put her at least in cute
i love how this tierlist doesn;t have perseus. no hate tho i use perseus all the time
this is end game perspective and percy is shit on endgame
"Perseus: am i a joke to you?"
Yes. Yes you are lmfao. F tier
Zuihou deserves to be in A and C.
Will there be another chicken sandwich video from the youtube money jimmy
It's unthinkable that you've put Ranger on s tier. even s+ tier would be too low for her
Where do I go to be spoon fed 🥴
Ranger is S-tier for the heart.
Why did you make 1 tierlist for vanguard and two 2 for main? They still fight for the same slots don't they?
Jimmy talked about it in either the last tier list or the review. Basically, Vanguards don't really change much, where as there will be specific fights where BBs or CVs are better than the other.
Formidable+Ark Royale peak super slow
Klaudia Valentz provides a 5% heal at the start of every battle (blue skill). When a ship falls below 30% due to battle damage, Klaudia heals that ship 5%. I paired her with Unicorn in the Chapter 15 mob fleet.
*glances at list*
*sees no "headpats" tier*
Instant disappointment -1/10
Long Island is my one and only Wife in the game, wasn't expecting her to be so high on the CN tier list lol
She is good for a CVL, like really good for the cost, but I only managed to get her all the way to W13 with heavy min maxing.
She isn't TN like the EN tier list says but also not top tier lmao
Saratoga should be A tier even if it's bottom of A tier. She has much more in common strength wise utility wise with A tier than the rest of B.
En community tier list hasnt been updated since PR7, not that its particularly good to begin with
they never give explanations on any of their new rankings within the past year or so which is so obnoxious.
Yea no passion from these people. There are preliminaries on their discord though and if you use the search bar you can find good info. Don't talk with them tho just a friendly advice lmao
@@lotharschramm5000 they are rude in the discord from personal experience
ngl Jimmy influenced me to not like Perseus
Carbonara recipe pls
Faction fleets are cringe. It's okay if you just want to goof around with it, but you can't be serious about using it to clear endgame content.
what's 9+10
21
@WeaponizedAutism47 ur stupid
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Bru, where is the cute pink haired owl girl ?
enterprise is not cuter then Shangri-La. Shang got them Megane bonus, so she wins by default.
Also i would place Impero at lest in B tier maybe low A, her qunique way of keeping your backline alife got me easy wins in chaper 14 and 15 with no UR fleets. and her dmg is passable as well.
Would chkalov do more damage in a soyuz/nahkimov/chkolov fleet over soyuz/nahkimov/amagi (cv) ? (not making the argument that she is better than amagi i was just curious if she would perform better than amagi in this fleet case).
(reposted in case ur lazy for the repsonce video x) )
i was thinking thast if we get enougth buff for cv taihou might be (or maybe not) a better option than haku
taihou has the best barrage in all the game (240*18 targeted torp) but relly on luck to get the best part (the augment make it easier) and with all the 3 triggers she has something around the damage of a shinano
and that without any selfbuff (nearly), just the barrage and pure damage
i didnt do the calculation but she is far more "receptive" to buffs compared to a ship with a weaker barrage and more selfbuff like haku
i wonder at what point she becomes better than haku in term of buff (if she does become at a point)
i thougth about this with the introduction of amagi witch give her 15% dmg to her barrage
about "efficiency of the buffs" i think there are more ship that has high base dmg without any self buff that migth be better than we think with the addition of new buff because they scale better with those buffs like ibuki, ayanami or the ddg but in the backlane
3 ddg back lane and noshiro mu, jintsu and something like naganami/harbin or sendai frontlane look at least fun
Have u actually played this game or
I would be more concerned for Taihou, because as a ship that relies on her barrage for serious damage, she doesn't scale with gear as well. As better gear is released, ships with strong plane loadouts will benefit considerably more than her.
@@VrOOm1337 wat are u saying either. She does not rely on her barrage, nor does it do good damage.
i crafted 1 la9, should i focus on dev30 kearsarge/hindenburg or nakhimov/napoli? i have yk2 but not implacable and dont have soyuz
Kear hinden ASAP imo. Anchorage = Napoli so she can wait and Nakhimov needs NP and Soyuz ideally
where's indomitable
The support fleet on W15, and nowhere else.
Formi and Bataan not in cute, smh another slanderous tier list.
Thank you. It was interesting. I don't get a joke about Ranger, tho. But it's not important.
Why is perseus nowhere on this list?? shes as good as unicorn if not better
Lmao
?????
I’m surprised that Perseus didn’t make it to the list.
You dont play maneul cause thats too much work but rangers rng is fine? Smh. Also, percy percy is S tier in healer stack fleets ( and she has a cross fleet wich may be minute, but can still min max heals)
((((The rest is fine. For no reason I have an issue with carriers where theyll sometimes do way less damage than theyre supposed to for no reason. But theyre fine in pvp always for some reason. Especially with shinano i think. So im temped to say shina is too high, but thats cause my game is weird))))
Ranger being good is a meme and he's always disliked Perseus for being objectively worse than Unicorn for almost any situation you would need her in. And using both of them is pretty much always overkill.
@Zajice oh I know the reasons why Jimmy placed them where he did. And heal stack is not pretty much always overkill. I know by playing fleets with just uni, for heals, and some with uni percy for some with a uni plus decent heal, decent damage hybrid, and some with uni plus all damage. I found that uni and percy is very solid together (especially on manuel). Depending on the gear you have and ships you have and all, only uni and overkill damage is best, but if you don't have the ships or gear for that, percy is an extremely solid option. I'm 15-4 and everything btw, just telling you so you know I'm not talking out my azz with no actual experience
Uni independence percy is also a great 13-4 hard mode mob fleet
Percy is pretty much just worse than any of the other relevant healers in high end content. Her damage is so bad that the fights just end up dragging
@thehat8006 not true. How far have you gotten in campaign and how good is your best carrier gear?
Mfw some of the community is still stucked at 2021 and praise Perseus like hot shit.
Have you tried chapter 14-15? She starts showing alot of issues right there. Low AVI+shit plane efficiency+90% extra reload time.
2 burst heals, and then what? Most fights up there are long af and in chapter 15 her heals aren't saving the vanguard anything when tons of planes rushing towards your backline and 100+ torps aiming at your vanguards.
In higher chapter you want consistent heal not burst heals and then gets locked by reload time for the rest of the fight when your vanguard is continuously taking damage all the time
There's a good reason Unicorn is prefer 99% of the time.
When u forget Carriers cuz they take a million years to get MVP outside of Boss cuz Alsace preload lol Ngl hate carriers cuz dmg is kinda wonky with probability to hit and slight chances of them whiffing and theres not many ships that can do slow that are easy to get makes it kinda annoying altho i just built AvP for this reason gonna take a few weeks to get her up to a useable level for OpSi.