@@JimmyAL Also, your Fleet edit tool that you have here, does not work. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm not saying meta wise I'm saying physically it does not work. I've opened it up three four times now to try to build my own list and none of the pictures will move.
@@tomywijaya2442What fleet are you using right now, including main fleet gear? I moved Volga into the boss fleet for 15-2 only (she was in my mob fleets for the other w15 stages but Hyuuga and Ise are scary) with the Angel’s Feather and Fairy Magic Poster auxes to keep her alive. I think I used Bismarck Zwei, Shinano, Anchorage, San Diego, and Shimanto. I had to move San Diego to the mob fleet (with Laffey II and Guam) in 15-3 and -4 when enemy submarines join the fight, but Eldridge retrofit could help now. W15 is very gear-dependent, though. No rocket-armed fighters, the occasional Wyvern even in a boss fleet (for the mobs and interception), lots of Flapjacks, AP guns, sextuple Bofors on your best AA ships and rainbow AA guns on everyone else (maybe a Roomba for range, too)…
I already knew someone would comment this the moment I heard Jimmy say that and I was indeed correct lmao. Warspite deserves better considering her history.
I am a big fan of Flandre. I feel she comfortably sits on a self-sufficient BB. She is also stupid cute and her voice is bliss. Rest is about what I expected, BB is a cornered market by the URs, since CVs you got slows, healers and interception for campaign.
Love Tosa as being the 1st cross fleet support ship, also love her cuz shes hot. glad shes at least up on the list. on a diff note, suprised the the big 7 retros perform as well as they do in a world full of urs
I would like to stick Sovetskaya Belorussiya at B rank. She is a great mob fleet unit as she provides damage reduction for the vanguard from the 3rd battle onward, has an okay slow barrage, and can heal herself. Also as for Constellation, probably lower A tier. She isn't the most powerful, but she is pretty reliable with a 100% barrage.
Exactly, atleast for new player Belo is top non-UR mainline ship that makes clearing early steps of Main Campign so much easier coz her buffs are perfect there.
Gascogne made the list, naisu. I rediscovered her in 14-4 boss fleet (ikr) back in the day. She sent NJ to the docks, cuz it was surprisingly more reliable choice for me (Jersey hasn't left docks since then, lmao) Also since Flandre is on top of A tier, Clemanceau has to be in B imo. Vichya dependence is kinda ass, but even with just Mogador the gap to Flandre is not that big
I used rodney meta enough number times and I can say that she's at least on bottom A tier. She can spam full screen barrage constantly to clear out the mobs, she also has gun barrage, which is basically a Nuke barrage, that does very high AP damage ranging from 17k~25k per hit on a small area. So she basically counters all kind of armor types. She can also heal herself andgain damage buff if her clones die but it will make her full screen barrage weaker.
a tip for firing the bb gun without having toi aim it. just activate the auto battle mode for a second or longer if you have more than 1 bb. during the auto battle mode it will automatically aim and fire and you wont have to move the vanguard to position the shot
Have you tested Indiana? I've found that she out damages NJ on stationary targets due to her barrages. That makes her a high B at least due to some niche uses
Both Gridman and Ryza fleets are actually quite strong (though Gridman fleet doesn't have a dedicated healer iirc) and I enjoy watching them because of their gimmicks. It's always fun to see them in PvP (I missed Ryza collab, and I haven't built all my Gridman ships yet).
This is probably a niche you never need or go into and thus ignored is cross fleet barrages. They aren't that big a deal for actual challenging content, but NJ still has the best cross fleet barrage for damage, which makes her way better as a support fleet for farming events B-1 stages, or the fox mines.
it really does depend with battleships while the firing animation is kinda annoying it's still cheaper to set a bb fleet up so great for new players also in certain scenarios they are just stronger like pvp where as in a majority of pve stuff u better of with a carrier fleet or mixed fleet (man I wish there was an option to remove the firing animation of battleships)
I organize my fleets like Space Marine companies from WH40K XD, being the first and second formation, for me equivalent to the first and second companies of a Space Marines chapter, which means that only my most poweful, high level and better geared ship girls are in the first and second formations of my fleet, I find interesting how some of the top tier ships girls that you mention are in fact in my first formation specially Musashi is a must and Also I have found ship girls like Nagato pretty useful despite the fact that she is still ascending in the ranks just in my 5 fleet :V (I have been playing for years and I have shit ton of ships so for a shipgirl to find herself in any of my formations she has to proof to be more than useful). But in the Other hand I have Littorio in my second fleet because she is one of my most high level, geared and in my opinion poweful ship girls and you put her in C rank, I guess the needs and experiences of everyone are different despite the common ground that we could find in the most OP ship girls like the URs, but for example in other tier list I have seen people placing Nagato pretty low in B rank or less despite the fact that I think that she is at least a tier A as you say so... Edit: well however I have to say that while I have played for a lot of time I am pretty casual in my approach and usually don't pay too much mind into what is broken or not, I varely pay any mind to faction sinergies and things like that however, I just test field a ship girl and if she meets my expectation she stays in the formation, in fact my first formation is composed by shipgirls which don't need any faction sinergie to work.
I feel like Kii could've made cute tier for her buffs and solid stats. Georgia should've made the list too IMO Roma to cute tier! Very cute (especially the skin from the pass), self buffs if failed barrage and solid stats. POW to cute tier too! And the buffs are a bonus! Plus, she's OG!
controversially, my flandre (on manual) is regularly outperformed by Jean bart (when jean decides to wake up) , likewise I find shimakaze in manual play to be so overpowered I have to not use her to keep the game fun, I kinda wish there were more discussion on how ships behave in manual play, I know we are the minority but damm is it radically different game.
If the game wasn't so time-consuming with all the afk farming we have to do, we'd probably have more discussions about manual play. Blame manjuu for not adding a sweep function or at least a reward multiplier higher than 2x when using high efficiency plans. Also manual aiming with BBs can take some time and causes desyncs as a result. Anyway, JB's problem is that her damage buff only activates when played manually, while her crit buffs only activate when using her trash main gun. Manjuu could've fixed at least one of these problems with her augment but they just gave her an unimpressive barrage and that's what she's stuck with.
Was hoping Sao would get at least Cute Tier, she's has carried me all the year I'm been playing, cleans campaign and Ops very fast, all ends after his barrage, but I understand is Endgame perspective
I have to disagree with Duke of York's placement. I recently came back to the game and didnt have a lot of the UR ships, so I was using her a lot with Alsace and Howe before getting Vanguard. Her low reload makes it really annoying to sync so that she fires before the other 2. If i use the fire control radar on her I can sync the first 2 salvos, but from that point on she consistently fires after the other 2, making alsace's barrage being fired without getting buffed. So I think duke's value as a debuffer dropped for harder content where u need more than 2 salvos to kill the boss, which is more relevant to players who dont have a lot of UR ships, which is also the reason why ppl would use her over vanguard anyway (except for waifu purposes ofc)
can you put chapters on youtube that discuss all ships you specifically talk about (or categories if you aggregate multiple ships into 1 paragraph) it would help me a lot as I am EN brained
Since the first 4 S tier ships focus on light and medium, what is the best heavy BB setup? Is it still Musashi,Vanguard,New jersey or do any of the 4 ships outshine them in heavy too?
@@Star-ns9rpi'm mostly just using it for opsi when a boss has high AA or is weak to shelling in particular. I have a mob fleet with 2 carriers and a bb, a heavy bb one and 2 carrier focused fleets.
I think our new girl Indiana is A tier, shes been performing way better then i anticipated and is even above Duke of York as my most used non-UR BB. Specialy her blue skills defence is way bedder than most ppl think.
Constellation is significantly stronger than georgia, I used both in a pure uss fleet with new jersey to see which would perform better & georgia was always last by a significant margin. the fact that constallation's torpedos can hit multiple times makes her dmg output pretty damn good, that's the only good thing about her tho, she doesn't provide anything else sadly
Some interesting takes on the top few placements in regards to dmg vs certain armor types. From my own tests that I have accumulated and from other people's fight's dmg numbers I've seen I can not find anything that seems to support many of those claims when talking about direct damage, especially (but not only) when applied to Alsace who I've seen lagging behind other top UR BBs on a regular basis on the damage end-screen when sortied in full BB fleets in non super-short fights. If one were to talk about total dmg contribution which includes own personal damage and extra dmg received by the boss due to debuffs/slows(or similar) I could see some case for those damage statements, but otherwise they just feel very bizarre or at the very least highly controversial to me.
Hmm maybe I didn't explicitly state it enough but I'm almost always thinking of total damage contribution as opposed to personal damage dealt as shown on the result screen
Narco Polo should be atleast above Nagato. Whodfck use Nagato in 2024, meanwhile Narco still the best mob fleet flag, on par with Izumo and Flandre, bruh.
@@Yeonari_00 The bb tier list is never just about damage, uvh and fdg barrage are useful when dealing with mobs and suicide ships. And if look specifically at damage, she has been powercrept by other UR ships like Musashi, Alsace, Soyuz, and Bismarck II. So to summarize, in terms of mob fleets, she cannot compete with Uvh and fdg, and she definitely cannot compete in boss fleets. Now even in PvP, she has been kicked out of the team by Alsace.
@@ChPiAn Well she was kicked out until Eldridge retrofit with herself being fragile but hilariously overpowered vanguard invincibility made NJ's damage reduction and her own invincibility more or less equal to Alsace's barrage FYI. A lot of people are still using NJ in Lil E server FYI because Musashi hasn't rerun yet. They were originally using Richelieu/Alsace/Soyuz before Eldridge came in but now Eldridge made preload spamming unreliable. Haven't seen much NJ in other servers though, people prefer to run Seydlitz/Musashi/Soyuz or Alsace/Musashi/Soyuz
first !! Honey is the best ship in the all game !! why ? #1 her lines #2 dragon breath #3 INSANE AA #4 crazy hp pool #5 USS #6 just google BB-62 and read #7 crazy skins #8 not event locked #9 crazy cute #10 best ass in the game
1. Maybe it is just me but Big7, Monarch, and Bismark making it into the list seems a bit copium. A 70% chance to perform near the peers of same tier while there is a 30% chance to perform like a purple rarity ship. Maybe the tech is at least it will proc every few fights and you will hit most of a campaign wave and you might see them at an ending screen when it procs and it feels good.png. Also now that I got to the part in the video that you talk about Big7 being good AND easily obtainable since they are campaign ships. I agree that they are VERY usable and easily obtainable outside of events for a new player. But TBH maybe that should almost be it's own tier when they upgrade the tier list and you decide to do this again. I could see maybe Nelson staying due to being able to increase activation if she takes damage. 2. I think Brunhilde would just be a better Bismark for bb's and it also pairs with BisZwei's Light armor affinity as well as the accuracy buff and slow buff are arguably much better against light armor targets as well as might knock down some of the vibrating back in forth that black hole can cause you can even use UVH or FDG here. And if using CV's I would rather have Strasser if looking for faction ships for the reload buff as it will allow you to get more value from ships like Sirius and Kazagumo in the Vanguard. For example Strasser, Graf Zepp, AVP since Strasser's slow is not reliable and there is a severe lack of KMS CV's. TL;DR wouldn't Brunhilde/Strasser better replace her in a fleet in most cases. Again just to reiterate we are talking about the faction buffing and personal damage of Bismark vs these two ships. 3. Just a mention of Clemenceau since I have used her to some success in completing certain EX stages and Arbs with a full French preload backline. Alsace, Clem, Rich with Mogador, Plymouth, Marseillaise/Unzen. Even though her and Rich only have MG2 they still end up doing work and they all buff each other by quite a large amount. Maybe some copium on my account but she has a reload, crit, and crit damage buff. IF you start the fight on manual to fire the first volley and then just auto the rest it is pretty primo but obviously probably not better than the obvious meta comps. 4. With the points made for Hood wouldn't Howe just be very similar and placed near her? Hood excels since she can rld buff bbs AND cv's and her barrage is good for mobbing where Howe would be bb support for bossing very similar to Brunhilde but with more personal single target damage but lacking a slow. To blab for a moment Howe's second skill can be activated with the obvious Plymouth + usable royal navy ship which would most likely be Jervis tanking or Drake at least being cute and doing damage. Since all bb fleet in mobbing is goofy/slow and is more boss focused Scylla and Sirius wouldn't fit, and Aurora, Swiftsure, Cheshire, and Dido would be niche picks to pair. Maybe the more limited use case and needing 2 Royal Navy ships or poopy monarch rng lowers her down and out of the list? The value difference would be Hood or Howe's difference of personal damage and the vanguard slot that would need to be royal navy outside the obvious Plymouth include. They would both in theory only be used to give an extra volley from their reload buff unless Hoods buff, since it is better, allows the main fleet to also use better longer cd guns and it makes up for the personal damage difference. I do not know all of the math. Maybe she was much more usable when vanguard damage didn't really exist so filling the slots with Dido or Drake was normal. The power creep of vanguard in the last two years has been pretty insane. This could just also be misinformation because I do not know the *real* difference in the personal damage after the new hood augment. I can only assume that the gigantic difference in FP and the fact they both have barrages that Howe claps in single target when compared to Hood. Even WITHOUT activating the second part of the second ability I would assume she still wins in damage done vs Hood. 5. To speak more on my thoughts on the "haven't used enough" tier. Probably pointless since you said you have not used much but here it is anyway. -Daisen we don't know till we get her finished. Similar to the other mobbing bb's -Owari I want to be SS tier because she is waif but the power of friendship buff proccing on main fleet is awful but her personal damage is still there with good staggering worthy of low A mid B and can excel on the off chance it buffs Unzen or Hindy. -Constellation is pretty much a statstick BB that is consistent which is what we like. I would rather see her over the Big 7 on the list for that reason. But again that is me angry about inconsistent barrages. -Shinjou Akane is like Daisen and the rest when it comes to exceling in mobbing due to good damage and staggered barrages. I know a lot of the youtubers hate the collab ships for some reason but there are some that are good like Klaudia, Tamaki, and the next 2 ships. -Fubuki and Tamaki do similar things like Armor break but Fubiki imo does more since she just seems to easily do more damage. During the leveling I have done with her since I leveled both Tamaki and Fubuki together and Fubuki was always on top even though Tamaki would fire first. She also has damage amps Airstrike damage and vanguard buffs. I would be inclined put her in A. -Patricia has high sustain and quite good damage. Excels in mobbing and pairs extremely well with Klaudia and Reisalin which are both very solid ships for mobbing. If you played during the collab as a newer player it easily gave you really good consistent opsi ships for clearing. -Hiei Meta, mine isn't leveled but I hope she is good because her design is quality. I would assume her level to be similar or better than Seydlitz. -Rodney Meta I am unsure since I don't ever really level most Meta ships above 100 or even increase their skills with the exceptions of the few good ones used for niche or pvp like Kirov, Elena, Jinstuu, Fortune. I would pretty much copy and paste ships in this tier and delete everything after Prinz but keep Nelson, Colorado, and West Virginia for Cute Tier. Exceptions being Fubuki and Owari to A and no concrete info on Daisen, Hiei, and Rodney. Also if Hiei somehow doesn't make it into B or above she deserves Cute Tier. I only really commented on ships I have used at 125. Which is everything here except the four Metas and Daisen. Keep up the quality content.
Regarding Bismarck Zwei's medium armor performance - her high base RLD and 15% RLD buff let her run soyuz-gun in 80s meta fights, while still getting a full 4 salvos - even in triple BB fleets where the other BB guns jam hers. Alsace and Soyuz cannot match this feat, which leads to Bis2's medium-armor damage contribution vastly exceeding theirs. She is also arguably the single best buff recipient in the entire game since her entire power budget is devoted to her personal damage, which increases the damage contribution of alsace, soyuz, kearsarge, vanguard, and plymouth. Regarding Alsace - using this ship makes me want to shatter my teeth on bricks. Her barrage has pathetic geometric accuracy compared to bis2, musashi, and soyuz, leading to frustrating inconsistency in my experience. Her synergy with mogador usually makes the duo an auto-include if mogador can survive, but the number of challenging fights in which mogador can survive until the end is overrated. She can't consistently survive repulse meta, even with the help of eldridge. Fraud!
Not even Agir + Eldridge retro can survive Repulse Meta consistently bruh, why mention Mogador in that matchup. She survives everything else decently. You need 3 tanks, which makes killing Repulse Meta quite hard if you don't want to depend on Helena proccing 2 times in a row
Strong disagree with Nagato & DoY being that high. The former is ancient who's buff doesn't contribute enough to make up for her crap damage. If Nagato had +75% barrage chance she'd be that good, but there's way too many good ships to waste time on a faction backline buffing IJN CV's with her. Gascogne is overlooked but by the time someone has her they likely have plenty if other good options, marginalizing her use. Marco should be A tier. Even if she's more specialized with SAP she's great outside of that niche.
Question between Nagato or Mikasa who's the better faction buffer, I only have Mikasa and Musashi yet I don't know who to use to in flagship position since I have no Nagato
Forgot to edit the tier name but C is Cute tier like every other list
Please do guide 15-2 I'm stuck with boss fleet
@@tomywijaya2442 idk how
@JimmyAL what fleet you use to beat 15-2?
@@JimmyAL
Also, your Fleet edit tool that you have here, does not work. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm not saying meta wise I'm saying physically it does not work. I've opened it up three four times now to try to build my own list and none of the pictures will move.
@@tomywijaya2442What fleet are you using right now, including main fleet gear? I moved Volga into the boss fleet for 15-2 only (she was in my mob fleets for the other w15 stages but Hyuuga and Ise are scary) with the Angel’s Feather and Fairy Magic Poster auxes to keep her alive. I think I used Bismarck Zwei, Shinano, Anchorage, San Diego, and Shimanto. I had to move San Diego to the mob fleet (with Laffey II and Guam) in 15-3 and -4 when enemy submarines join the fight, but Eldridge retrofit could help now. W15 is very gear-dependent, though. No rocket-armed fighters, the occasional Wyvern even in a boss fleet (for the mobs and interception), lots of Flapjacks, AP guns, sextuple Bofors on your best AA ships and rainbow AA guns on everyone else (maybe a Roomba for range, too)…
Wtf no Howe. I haven't used Howe in awhile so I can't even say she should be in B or something, but she's deffo in cute tier at least.
just finished 120ing her and she's indeed at the very least in the cute tier. Kongou > Kongou Muse too
10:47 "everyone knows that UR ship is better than non UR one"
Warspite 💀💀💀
Well, UR Warspite is better than SSR Warspite.
I already knew someone would comment this the moment I heard Jimmy say that and I was indeed correct lmao. Warspite deserves better considering her history.
WarspiteKai can use anti-sub plane, that hilarious shit alone puts her above all other boring ships, bruh.
I am a big fan of Flandre.
I feel she comfortably sits on a self-sufficient BB. She is also stupid cute and her voice is bliss.
Rest is about what I expected, BB is a cornered market by the URs, since CVs you got slows, healers and interception for campaign.
Love Tosa as being the 1st cross fleet support ship, also love her cuz shes hot. glad shes at least up on the list.
on a diff note, suprised the the big 7 retros perform as well as they do in a world full of urs
Yup, they set a pretty good precedent with Nelson Retro. They're all decent BBs.
I would like to stick Sovetskaya Belorussiya at B rank. She is a great mob fleet unit as she provides damage reduction for the vanguard from the 3rd battle onward, has an okay slow barrage, and can heal herself.
Also as for Constellation, probably lower A tier. She isn't the most powerful, but she is pretty reliable with a 100% barrage.
Exactly, atleast for new player Belo is top non-UR mainline ship that makes clearing early steps of Main Campign so much easier coz her buffs are perfect there.
I miss when Monarch was the best gold battleship in the game.
Granny is in cute tier, this list is very accurate.
Gascogne made the list, naisu. I rediscovered her in 14-4 boss fleet (ikr) back in the day. She sent NJ to the docks, cuz it was surprisingly more reliable choice for me (Jersey hasn't left docks since then, lmao)
Also since Flandre is on top of A tier, Clemanceau has to be in B imo. Vichya dependence is kinda ass, but even with just Mogador the gap to Flandre is not that big
I used rodney meta enough number times and I can say that she's at least on bottom A tier. She can spam full screen barrage constantly to clear out the mobs, she also has gun barrage, which is basically a Nuke barrage, that does very high AP damage ranging from 17k~25k per hit on a small area. So she basically counters all kind of armor types. She can also heal herself andgain damage buff if her clones die but it will make her full screen barrage weaker.
The timestamps are a nice touch jimmy, well done
Sad Brünhilde is not on the list ... T_T
Warspite not even reaching B tier is so sad, majuu pls buff
a tip for firing the bb gun without having toi aim it. just activate the auto battle mode for a second or longer if you have more than 1 bb. during the auto battle mode it will automatically aim and fire and you wont have to move the vanguard to position the shot
Have you tested Indiana?
I've found that she out damages NJ on stationary targets due to her barrages.
That makes her a high B at least due to some niche uses
How would you rate Royal Oak? She has a similar skill to that of Seydlitz but is less potent and affects only HMS ships. shes cute too
Both akane and Patricia are really good in their own collab ship fleet. I hope we get more special gimmick from collab ship for future event
Both Gridman and Ryza fleets are actually quite strong (though Gridman fleet doesn't have a dedicated healer iirc) and I enjoy watching them because of their gimmicks. It's always fun to see them in PvP (I missed Ryza collab, and I haven't built all my Gridman ships yet).
Arizona is my queen of Cute-tier ❤
Daisen is pretty good. She's basically another Izumo with a torpedo barrage.
wooo IB for life! faction fleets or bust
This is probably a niche you never need or go into and thus ignored is cross fleet barrages. They aren't that big a deal for actual challenging content, but NJ still has the best cross fleet barrage for damage, which makes her way better as a support fleet for farming events B-1 stages, or the fox mines.
it really does depend with battleships while the firing animation is kinda annoying it's still cheaper to set a bb fleet up so great for new players also in certain scenarios they are just stronger like pvp where as in a majority of pve stuff u better of with a carrier fleet or mixed fleet (man I wish there was an option to remove the firing animation of battleships)
I organize my fleets like Space Marine companies from WH40K XD, being the first and second formation, for me equivalent to the first and second companies of a Space Marines chapter, which means that only my most poweful, high level and better geared ship girls are in the first and second formations of my fleet, I find interesting how some of the top tier ships girls that you mention are in fact in my first formation specially Musashi is a must and Also I have found ship girls like Nagato pretty useful despite the fact that she is still ascending in the ranks just in my 5 fleet :V (I have been playing for years and I have shit ton of ships so for a shipgirl to find herself in any of my formations she has to proof to be more than useful).
But in the Other hand I have Littorio in my second fleet because she is one of my most high level, geared and in my opinion poweful ship girls and you put her in C rank, I guess the needs and experiences of everyone are different despite the common ground that we could find in the most OP ship girls like the URs, but for example in other tier list I have seen people placing Nagato pretty low in B rank or less despite the fact that I think that she is at least a tier A as you say so...
Edit: well however I have to say that while I have played for a lot of time I am pretty casual in my approach and usually don't pay too much mind into what is broken or not, I varely pay any mind to faction sinergies and things like that however, I just test field a ship girl and if she meets my expectation she stays in the formation, in fact my first formation is composed by shipgirls which don't need any faction sinergie to work.
I feel like Kii could've made cute tier for her buffs and solid stats.
Georgia should've made the list too IMO
Roma to cute tier! Very cute (especially the skin from the pass), self buffs if failed barrage and solid stats.
POW to cute tier too! And the buffs are a bonus! Plus, she's OG!
I wonder if Monach will reach A once she gets her Augment
controversially, my flandre (on manual) is regularly outperformed by Jean bart (when jean decides to wake up) , likewise I find shimakaze in manual play to be so overpowered I have to not use her to keep the game fun, I kinda wish there were more discussion on how ships behave in manual play, I know we are the minority but damm is it radically different game.
If the game wasn't so time-consuming with all the afk farming we have to do, we'd probably have more discussions about manual play. Blame manjuu for not adding a sweep function or at least a reward multiplier higher than 2x when using high efficiency plans. Also manual aiming with BBs can take some time and causes desyncs as a result. Anyway, JB's problem is that her damage buff only activates when played manually, while her crit buffs only activate when using her trash main gun. Manjuu could've fixed at least one of these problems with her augment but they just gave her an unimpressive barrage and that's what she's stuck with.
@@WadeWontson noted
The points about Venneto are based beyond belief
Thanks again for your work.
Wryyyyy let's gooo Britannia rule the waves! Hood is good!
7:57 I want more skin for my beloved Vanguard and merch too.
I'm glad to see Seydlitz in A. She has done work for me.
Was hoping Sao would get at least Cute Tier, she's has carried me all the year I'm been playing, cleans campaign and Ops very fast, all ends after his barrage, but I understand is Endgame perspective
I have to disagree with Duke of York's placement. I recently came back to the game and didnt have a lot of the UR ships, so I was using her a lot with Alsace and Howe before getting Vanguard. Her low reload makes it really annoying to sync so that she fires before the other 2. If i use the fire control radar on her I can sync the first 2 salvos, but from that point on she consistently fires after the other 2, making alsace's barrage being fired without getting buffed. So I think duke's value as a debuffer dropped for harder content where u need more than 2 salvos to kill the boss, which is more relevant to players who dont have a lot of UR ships, which is also the reason why ppl would use her over vanguard anyway (except for waifu purposes ofc)
can you put chapters on youtube that discuss all ships you specifically talk about (or categories if you aggregate multiple ships into 1 paragraph) it would help me a lot as I am EN brained
maybe
If you were to rank your carbanara recipe, where would it place?
Missing The 2nd from gridman. Collab ship, but still
W14 trash damage on par with Musashi, random vanguard heal.
Since the first 4 S tier ships focus on light and medium, what is the best heavy BB setup? Is it still Musashi,Vanguard,New jersey or do any of the 4 ships outshine them in heavy too?
Wait for Yamato, Musashi and Mikasa BB fleet
@@vadimblyat5436 You should use carriers for heavy, not battleships.
I use antimed musashi-soyuz-vanguard when I need to hit heavy with BBs.
@@Star-ns9rpi'm mostly just using it for opsi when a boss has high AA or is weak to shelling in particular. I have a mob fleet with 2 carriers and a bb, a heavy bb one and 2 carrier focused fleets.
@@rockfalls3007seems like a good one with the slow soyuz has helping the other 2 hit better
I think our new girl Indiana is A tier, shes been performing way better then i anticipated and is even above Duke of York as my most used non-UR BB. Specialy her blue skills defence is way bedder than most ppl think.
Where would you put Howe
Clearing 15-4 with only carriers sounds interesting, I would like to try it myself aswell. Can you please share the fleets you used?
Constellation is significantly stronger than georgia, I used both in a pure uss fleet with new jersey to see which would perform better & georgia was always last by a significant margin. the fact that constallation's torpedos can hit multiple times makes her dmg output pretty damn good, that's the only good thing about her tho, she doesn't provide anything else sadly
I'm curious where indiana would place
Now the only missing tier list is a submarines tier list.
Petition to add "Waifu" tier aswell and not just "Cute" tier.
How do you check the stats of barrages like their armour penetration and dmg?
azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine
men , i play on Washington server , i oath my Washington since nov.2018 and seeing the list missing her is hurt my feelings 😢
Nevada but no Oklahoma in the Cute tier!?!? Heresy, put her together with her sister!!!
What about royal oak?😊
Some interesting takes on the top few placements in regards to dmg vs certain armor types.
From my own tests that I have accumulated and from other people's fight's dmg numbers I've seen I can not find anything that seems to support many of those claims when talking about direct damage, especially (but not only) when applied to Alsace who I've seen lagging behind other top UR BBs on a regular basis on the damage end-screen when sortied in full BB fleets in non super-short fights.
If one were to talk about total dmg contribution which includes own personal damage and extra dmg received by the boss due to debuffs/slows(or similar) I could see some case for those damage statements, but otherwise they just feel very bizarre or at the very least highly controversial to me.
Hmm maybe I didn't explicitly state it enough but I'm almost always thinking of total damage contribution as opposed to personal damage dealt as shown on the result screen
Alsace has an S tier, I think this reason alone is enough to be at the top.
Indiana! Where is Indiana? I assume it falls under Haven't used enough but it would be nice to hear your expected placement.
Uga booga Owari SEEEEEEEEEX
can you make best combo or best team recipe
gonna make carbonara
After this video I AM EVEN MORE MAD THAT I NEVER PULLED ALSACE DURING HER EVENT DESPITE HAVING 250 CUBES
She's good but not vital and can be replaced
@ I wanted her so I can use that skin of hers that’s y
@
I’m still mad
Which campaign stage do you farm? and do you use a full 6 ships per fleet?
I've been running out of Cognitive Chips x.x
where's erebus
Narco Polo should be atleast above Nagato. Whodfck use Nagato in 2024, meanwhile Narco still the best mob fleet flag, on par with Izumo and Flandre, bruh.
If youre not here to hold my hands, then what are we?!😢
Nj is not below fdg and uvh
if you check the only true tierlist on the internet, it appears she is
fdg and uvh barrages are more valuable
@@Star-ns9rp it deals less damage so no
@@Yeonari_00 The bb tier list is never just about damage, uvh and fdg barrage are useful when dealing with mobs and suicide ships.
And if look specifically at damage, she has been powercrept by other UR ships like Musashi, Alsace, Soyuz, and Bismarck II. So to summarize, in terms of mob fleets, she cannot compete with Uvh and fdg, and she definitely cannot compete in boss fleets. Now even in PvP, she has been kicked out of the team by Alsace.
@@ChPiAn Well she was kicked out until Eldridge retrofit with herself being fragile but hilariously overpowered vanguard invincibility made NJ's damage reduction and her own invincibility more or less equal to Alsace's barrage FYI. A lot of people are still using NJ in Lil E server FYI because Musashi hasn't rerun yet. They were originally using Richelieu/Alsace/Soyuz before Eldridge came in but now Eldridge made preload spamming unreliable. Haven't seen much NJ in other servers though, people prefer to run Seydlitz/Musashi/Soyuz or Alsace/Musashi/Soyuz
i see
wait, where is clemenceau? is she not even worth to mention? :(
They missed a lot of ships actually. Like Kii and Suruga. But BB bloat is a thing so *Shrug*
@Kingofdragons117 "they" 🤡 🤡
first !!
Honey is the best ship in the all game !!
why ?
#1 her lines
#2 dragon breath
#3 INSANE AA
#4 crazy hp pool
#5 USS
#6 just google BB-62 and read
#7 crazy skins
#8 not event locked
#9 crazy cute
#10 best ass in the game
Forgot to mention her US carrier crossfleet buff. If it works as advertised, of course.
@@faerie7dragon its right there called USS u goomba
Not even the best USS ship
@@ExtremelyHyped zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz what ? who asked again ?
Murlock? :MutsukiHyperStare: @@murlock792
It's so sad NJ is giga power crept. I'll still be using her bc I love her.
Same there's stronger but I'll never stop using her
1. Maybe it is just me but Big7, Monarch, and Bismark making it into the list seems a bit copium. A 70% chance to perform near the peers of same tier while there is a 30% chance to perform like a purple rarity ship. Maybe the tech is at least it will proc every few fights and you will hit most of a campaign wave and you might see them at an ending screen when it procs and it feels good.png. Also now that I got to the part in the video that you talk about Big7 being good AND easily obtainable since they are campaign ships. I agree that they are VERY usable and easily obtainable outside of events for a new player. But TBH maybe that should almost be it's own tier when they upgrade the tier list and you decide to do this again. I could see maybe Nelson staying due to being able to increase activation if she takes damage.
2. I think Brunhilde would just be a better Bismark for bb's and it also pairs with BisZwei's Light armor affinity as well as the accuracy buff and slow buff are arguably much better against light armor targets as well as might knock down some of the vibrating back in forth that black hole can cause you can even use UVH or FDG here.
And if using CV's I would rather have Strasser if looking for faction ships for the reload buff as it will allow you to get more value from ships like Sirius and Kazagumo in the Vanguard. For example Strasser, Graf Zepp, AVP since Strasser's slow is not reliable and there is a severe lack of KMS CV's. TL;DR wouldn't Brunhilde/Strasser better replace her in a fleet in most cases. Again just to reiterate we are talking about the faction buffing and personal damage of Bismark vs these two ships.
3. Just a mention of Clemenceau since I have used her to some success in completing certain EX stages and Arbs with a full French preload backline. Alsace, Clem, Rich with Mogador, Plymouth, Marseillaise/Unzen. Even though her and Rich only have MG2 they still end up doing work and they all buff each other by quite a large amount. Maybe some copium on my account but she has a reload, crit, and crit damage buff. IF you start the fight on manual to fire the first volley and then just auto the rest it is pretty primo but obviously probably not better than the obvious meta comps.
4. With the points made for Hood wouldn't Howe just be very similar and placed near her? Hood excels since she can rld buff bbs AND cv's and her barrage is good for mobbing where Howe would be bb support for bossing very similar to Brunhilde but with more personal single target damage but lacking a slow.
To blab for a moment Howe's second skill can be activated with the obvious Plymouth + usable royal navy ship which would most likely be Jervis tanking or Drake at least being cute and doing damage. Since all bb fleet in mobbing is goofy/slow and is more boss focused Scylla and Sirius wouldn't fit, and Aurora, Swiftsure, Cheshire, and Dido would be niche picks to pair. Maybe the more limited use case and needing 2 Royal Navy ships or poopy monarch rng lowers her down and out of the list? The value difference would be Hood or Howe's difference of personal damage and the vanguard slot that would need to be royal navy outside the obvious Plymouth include. They would both in theory only be used to give an extra volley from their reload buff unless Hoods buff, since it is better, allows the main fleet to also use better longer cd guns and it makes up for the personal damage difference. I do not know all of the math. Maybe she was much more usable when vanguard damage didn't really exist so filling the slots with Dido or Drake was normal. The power creep of vanguard in the last two years has been pretty insane. This could just also be misinformation because I do not know the *real* difference in the personal damage after the new hood augment. I can only assume that the gigantic difference in FP and the fact they both have barrages that Howe claps in single target when compared to Hood. Even WITHOUT activating the second part of the second ability I would assume she still wins in damage done vs Hood.
5. To speak more on my thoughts on the "haven't used enough" tier. Probably pointless since you said you have not used much but here it is anyway.
-Daisen we don't know till we get her finished. Similar to the other mobbing bb's
-Owari I want to be SS tier because she is waif but the power of friendship buff proccing on main fleet is awful but her personal damage is still there with good staggering worthy of low A mid B and can excel on the off chance it buffs Unzen or Hindy.
-Constellation is pretty much a statstick BB that is consistent which is what we like. I would rather see her over the Big 7 on the list for that reason. But again that is me angry about inconsistent barrages.
-Shinjou Akane is like Daisen and the rest when it comes to exceling in mobbing due to good damage and staggered barrages. I know a lot of the youtubers hate the collab ships for some reason but there are some that are good like Klaudia, Tamaki, and the next 2 ships.
-Fubuki and Tamaki do similar things like Armor break but Fubiki imo does more since she just seems to easily do more damage. During the leveling I have done with her since I leveled both Tamaki and Fubuki together and Fubuki was always on top even though Tamaki would fire first. She also has damage amps Airstrike damage and vanguard buffs. I would be inclined put her in A.
-Patricia has high sustain and quite good damage. Excels in mobbing and pairs extremely well with Klaudia and Reisalin which are both very solid ships for mobbing. If you played during the collab as a newer player it easily gave you really good consistent opsi ships for clearing.
-Hiei Meta, mine isn't leveled but I hope she is good because her design is quality. I would assume her level to be similar or better than Seydlitz.
-Rodney Meta I am unsure since I don't ever really level most Meta ships above 100 or even increase their skills with the exceptions of the few good ones used for niche or pvp like Kirov, Elena, Jinstuu, Fortune.
I would pretty much copy and paste ships in this tier and delete everything after Prinz but keep Nelson, Colorado, and West Virginia for Cute Tier. Exceptions being Fubuki and Owari to A and no concrete info on Daisen, Hiei, and Rodney. Also if Hiei somehow doesn't make it into B or above she deserves Cute Tier.
I only really commented on ships I have used at 125. Which is everything here except the four Metas and Daisen.
Keep up the quality content.
I got Eskimo
Owari have the best dmg of any ssr BB
Regarding Bismarck Zwei's medium armor performance - her high base RLD and 15% RLD buff let her run soyuz-gun in 80s meta fights, while still getting a full 4 salvos - even in triple BB fleets where the other BB guns jam hers. Alsace and Soyuz cannot match this feat, which leads to Bis2's medium-armor damage contribution vastly exceeding theirs. She is also arguably the single best buff recipient in the entire game since her entire power budget is devoted to her personal damage, which increases the damage contribution of alsace, soyuz, kearsarge, vanguard, and plymouth.
Regarding Alsace - using this ship makes me want to shatter my teeth on bricks. Her barrage has pathetic geometric accuracy compared to bis2, musashi, and soyuz, leading to frustrating inconsistency in my experience. Her synergy with mogador usually makes the duo an auto-include if mogador can survive, but the number of challenging fights in which mogador can survive until the end is overrated. She can't consistently survive repulse meta, even with the help of eldridge. Fraud!
Not even Agir + Eldridge retro can survive Repulse Meta consistently bruh, why mention Mogador in that matchup. She survives everything else decently. You need 3 tanks, which makes killing Repulse Meta quite hard if you don't want to depend on Helena proccing 2 times in a row
no Royal Oak on cute tier? yeah, garbage tier list
Tirpitz is a big winner of buffs - with double Bismarck by her side, she outperforms all other SSR BB´s in my experience. Feels underrated.
Strong disagree with Nagato & DoY being that high. The former is ancient who's buff doesn't contribute enough to make up for her crap damage. If Nagato had +75% barrage chance she'd be that good, but there's way too many good ships to waste time on a faction backline buffing IJN CV's with her.
Gascogne is overlooked but by the time someone has her they likely have plenty if other good options, marginalizing her use.
Marco should be A tier. Even if she's more specialized with SAP she's great outside of that niche.
She's that tier because Rodney Meta showed utility of a CV Rld buffer on IJN carriers
VV and Zara don't get skins because Manjuu hates Sardegna, this is known.
Italy is criminally underrated
They already have skins?
@@Kingofdragons117 No more than the one they released with, despite being popular ships.
Question between Nagato or Mikasa who's the better faction buffer, I only have Mikasa and Musashi yet I don't know who to use to in flagship position since I have no Nagato