Sena 10c Evo Review - Is it better than the Pro?

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  • @BladedAngel
    @BladedAngel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sena having a camera is more so treated as a dash cam to me. I always ride with buddies, so it being a comms system is nice, but also recording the rides in case something happens is also nice. I never expected high fidelity footage from it, that wasn't its main purpose. So yeah, spot on review.

  • @Sclaus89
    @Sclaus89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used my sena 10c the first years i was riding my motorcycle. Mostly from home to work and work to home. Those rides took about 35-45min withouth traffic issues. Battery life now filming has dropped to 25min. It's an old unit ofc. I use it as a intercom now mostly. But for work rides the camera option was handy for insurance purposes if i would get into an accident or something. So i might just get this unit for a upgrade. I have gopro's (6&7). But the issues with that is, tons of cables. And riding a harley street bob with a custom exhaust thats loud af, the sound of a gopro just ain't good enough without a mic going into the helmet. And i prefer easier and all in one devices above expensive plus additional options for a full set price. Gopro with adapter for a mic and mic was around 700€ back in the day. While this device just costs 306€ at the moment.
    And looking at how my current sena 10c from 2017 still works fine (except battery life filming on 1080p 30frames), ill choose the sena over a gopro for reasons stated above.
    For all you gopro fanboys out there, don't worry i own gopro's too. And i am amazed by their quality of video recording. But for intercom purposes this unit is awesome.
    I own 4 helmets.
    Caberg Duke 2, sena 10c mounted.
    Shark Skwal 2, gopro6 mounted.
    Shoei GT-Air2, gopro 7 mounted with microphone, integrated sena unit also installed.
    Scorpion Exo 930, will have the sena 10c evo on this.

  • @triplezeroracing
    @triplezeroracing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great quick video.. I just bought one and you've answered some of those unknowns which should make the transition easy.. Thanks

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @tinks43
    @tinks43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely reviewed Tony, can clearly see the difference too 👍🏻

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, i think the footage is much more useable

  • @Rambler358
    @Rambler358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks, nice video! A friend told me that the 10C Evo would not charge AND record video at the same time. If the 10C Evo's camera was turned off then it would charge while listening to music or intercom conversations. He said as soon as the camera was turned on, the charging stopped. Did my friend have a bad unit, or is this actually true?

    • @KausCl
      @KausCl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True. From the user manual, page 11: "If you connect the 10C EVO to the Powerbank while the camera is on, the 10C EVO will use the electricity stored in the Powerbank but the battery will not charge." However, as soon you turn off the camera, the battery start charging.

  • @RJHMotorbikeTraining
    @RJHMotorbikeTraining 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use this on a daily basis with students receiving with the 10s. Quality is very good and I have set mine up so it can charge whilst recording therefor able to record 4k all day long. My biggest moan is the location of the charging port which isn't weather proof whilst being used

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the charging port location isnt ideal

  • @richardman0118
    @richardman0118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:41,I don’t like the power cable’s position. Because it’s raining the water may be get in the hole.

  • @kendrickpavey6683
    @kendrickpavey6683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for hitting the highlights and not windbagging along for 20 minutes. Well done

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem 👍

    • @kendrickpavey6683
      @kendrickpavey6683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mancavemoto has anyone found after firmware updating to v1.6 that their unit won't turn on? I have this issue right now. Have contacted Sena but cannot resuscitate it... ;-(

  • @johnnyvibert5231
    @johnnyvibert5231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a SENA 10C EVO earlier this year. It has stopped working after less than a dozen use. It won't open and it won't charge!
    I have contacted SENA’s technical support and exchanged several emails with them over the last 3 weeks with no resolution (Fix or Exchange) so far or explanation for the slow progress.
    I consider myself a valuable customer after having purchased several SENA products over the past 10 years (2x SENA 10S, 2x SENA 20S and 1x SRL for my Neotech 2 helmet) and was pleased with the products. Sadly, my experience with the 10C EVO has not been good and their Technical Support has not been helpful at all.
    My conclusion is that the 10C EVO is not reliable and SENA is not interested in their customer’s satisfaction.
    Has anyone else had bad experience with the 10C EVO and/or SENA’s customer service?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats not good, did you buy it directly from Sena or through a retailer? not that it makes a difference, but a retailer should be replacing it in the first instance if its faulty. I've had no real issues with the unit,.

  • @oguztemel1978
    @oguztemel1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison and review, thanks 👍🏼

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem 👍 thanks for watching and commenting

  • @vraimondi
    @vraimondi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Many thx for sharing!!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @bigblue3568
    @bigblue3568 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Usually just take short trips but for longer rides just plug in a portable power bank and toss it into your pocket while you ride. Just have to remember to unplug before you take off your helmet or use something like a double 360 magnetic cable.

  • @alexiom1256
    @alexiom1256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the Review

  • @j.g545
    @j.g545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    did you test it how is it work at night?

  • @nickmitton7350
    @nickmitton7350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just seen your review on the 10c which was great as im thinking about one of these for myself. I like to listen to music whilst riding so what was the sound quality like with the speakers which came with the camera? Many thanks. Nick.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s pretty good, and I think they now come with the HD speakers?

  • @Drpepper99uk
    @Drpepper99uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, can this be used with just the intercom alone and with music or navigation voice instructions without the camera recording?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, most of the time I used it just as a comms unit

  • @joeldude1
    @joeldude1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work! I have the 10c and am so very happy with the upgraded Evo 10c...everything y\uo said was spot on dude! Thank you ;_)

  • @RJHMotorbikeTraining
    @RJHMotorbikeTraining 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish the 4K was available at 60fps not 30fps like the GoPro. From what I can gather TH-cam favours the 60fps??

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it’s a bit of a shame, I’m not sure if it is something that could come along with a firmware upgrade at some point? 60fps is going to help slow motion in the edit and will also reduce motion blur, but 30fps offers a natural look. I’m not sure the frame rate has any effect on TH-cam uploads?

  • @sergio_x2487
    @sergio_x2487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does loop mode work? Just like on gopro (trashy) or like traditional dashcam (just hit rec and forget about any problems)? And can we reduce somehow that crazy sharpening?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep like a dashcam. The TH-cam compression really doesnt help

    • @sergio_x2487
      @sergio_x2487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mancavemoto what about car's number plates? Look clear or blured?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clear enough to read easily

    • @sergio_x2487
      @sergio_x2487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mancavemoto thank you

  • @jasonshortphd
    @jasonshortphd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have found that if I use it for small recordings where I want to get my thoughts down while riding, it works great. You can record a lot of 2-3 min clips in a single charge. Image stabilization would round this out for me though. Seems a shame it doesn't have it. I also wish the mic options provided something better.

  • @agileinc.peopleoptimizewor1638
    @agileinc.peopleoptimizewor1638 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, one question, does it sink with other non video Sena bluetooth?

  • @Striple
    @Striple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know.... I had the 10c first. After a year, the external mic dies and I have terrible windnoise on my vids. I contacted sena, but my warranty was over, so they couldn't help me. Then I bought the 10c pro. After a year, exactly same issue. I did contact sena again and they told me to send the device to them for a check up. Result, they confirmed the mic issue. They gave me a second 10c pro device, because I still had warranty this time. But for how long will this external mic work. I really love those devices, but they are fragile. Now I have 1 10c and 2 10c pro devices. 3 devices and 2 of them with bad audio, but they still work perfect as a normal intercom. The evo sounds great to me, but I don't risk it to buy one because of my previous experiences.. if you want a cam, just buy a go pro or something... a real cam. My old gopro hero+ still works fine after 4 years.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting feedback, I've not had any issues yet, but its something to keep an eye on. Cheers

  • @ChristianLAdamo
    @ChristianLAdamo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to buy one but which one its better the 10c evo or 10c pro?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10c Evo definitely

    • @richardman0118
      @richardman0118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suggest you choose the 10C Pro cause of the power cable’s position.

  • @kretton
    @kretton ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Nice video. I also have 10C EVO, but on the video there is a very annoying sound of wind (starting already on since 30/40 mph...) which drowns out all other sounds. This is completely the opposite sound to what can be heard in your or other YT videos. Can this be Sena failure or maybe I have my micfrone mounted incorrectly?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be the mic placement at a guess

  • @scottmccormick1604
    @scottmccormick1604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Tony - perhaps a difficult question, but given your extensive knowledge thought it worth the ask - will the 10C EVO fit into the Nexx Coms fittings in the Nexx x.Web2 helmet? ....Cheers mate

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It won't fit 'into' it no, and given the rubber gasket it might be tricky to fit the clamp?

  • @muctebacan
    @muctebacan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello you bought 10c evo intercom. i am using a chin-up caberg duke 2 helmet. I assembled the helmet myself. I wore a boom microphone in a helmet. While there is no problem in listening to music, video recording, no sound is sent to the other side when the chin is open during the phone call, and when the jaw is closed, it is low quality. I checked the helmet mount. There is no damage to the cables. There is no sound problem during video recording. I checked the installation from the user manual over and over again, as suggested,
    My own interpretation is humble, would you have a suggestion without perceiving my voice as an instrument ambient noise and suppressing it? It is a common problem and do you have any suggestions to say the solution is this?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting, it might be, as you say, the noise control function but the boom mic should be fine with that. Perhaps the audio mix settings?

    • @muctebacan
      @muctebacan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mancavemoto thank you for your response. İ return factory default several times. İ've tried other users settings who i can communicate.

  • @doomassthenightcrawler
    @doomassthenightcrawler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long does each video record? Is it a constant stream of recording until you stop it or run out of memory? Or does it automatically cut its recording off at a certain time like 10 minutes or something?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From my experience It'll keep running, but breaks the clips down into smaller sections

    • @DukeOfTwist
      @DukeOfTwist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mancavemoto My 10c Pro breaks the video up in 16:43 segments which I upload without bothering with edits

  • @Pencilkees
    @Pencilkees 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi @Man Cave Moto, I recently purchased a Shoei Glamster and have also seen your review on it as well as the video on mounting a Sena 5s. Would you happen to know if the 10c EVO would fit on the Glamster? Really looking for the combined comms/video that this product offers.
    Thanks in advance.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, yes it’ll fit just the same, no problem with that.

    • @Pencilkees
      @Pencilkees 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mancavemoto Great, thanks for the quick answer!

  • @scottmiller8103
    @scottmiller8103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My biggest problem with 10c pro is limited volume. I can’t hear anything over 70 mph.
    Are there options for increasing the volume of this unit? Other speakers?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There may be different speaker options, there are also options to boost the audio within the app, have you tried that?

  • @haitch1980
    @haitch1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your efforts. I am using the Evo with firmware update 1.7. My experience is most reviewer video footage is with the camera pointed in a way that leaves the sun behind the rider. I experience terrible over exposure and contrast issues with the sun forward or to the left or right of forward. This generally makes the footage marginal for TH-cam without major post editing. Very disappointed with this aspect. Does nobody seek a true comparison? I have gopro cams rear mounted that perform much better. They are only mid quality Silver editions. I don't see that the Evo is even close in this regard. Especially when the golden hour is sunset/sunrise.

  • @bartonSkett
    @bartonSkett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review, thanks Tony. Battery life still an issue though for a lot of people?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Filming chews up battery life, it’s the same for the GoPro too. Of course you can swap the battery out in a gopro. I think it will only be a problem if you want to film in huge great chunks of time obviously

    • @kendrickpavey6683
      @kendrickpavey6683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the secret is to record the bits that matter. Few people will watch hours of footage and you don’t want a massive editing task afterwards.

  • @reinaldo1504
    @reinaldo1504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got 10c pro, when im using audio multitasking paired with sena smh10 the music/gps sound stuttering and skipping, if my smh10 turn off then it back to normal again, if i pair with other intercom like bts2 music still stuttering and skipping but the bts2 mic doesnt transfer sound to my 10c pro,. do you have this problem with 10c evo ?.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven’t experienced that no

  • @edwardchen2385
    @edwardchen2385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video review! Though I was wondering if this has a loop video option where the video overwrites previous files automatically. That way, it can be a portable motorcycle dashcam. Please let me know! Thanks

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does have a loop function yes, from memory it rolls in 3 minute loops?

  • @dannygianni
    @dannygianni 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi great video, mines just arrived today. Out of interest what SD card have you used ? Thanks

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! Great Christmas present. I’ve got a Samsung Evo plus 64gb card in mind. Had no issues with it so far

  • @OBH24
    @OBH24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there. When recording at 4K the camera save 2 videos, one in 4K and the same video in very low resolution. And, after playing the video on my computer it shows a layer of black fog on both sides, right and left. Can you help please? I think my camera is not working properly.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That doesn’t sound right, what format are you recording in?

    • @OBH24
      @OBH24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mancavemoto I am on loop recording, using the high setting 4k at 30fps as it's the highest I can go. Do you think I need to send it back? I've just got it was my first use.

    • @OBH24
      @OBH24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mancavemoto I have also formatted the card and updated it to the latest firmware as well.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oliver Bermejo Hidalgo That is what I would do

    • @OBH24
      @OBH24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mancavemoto thanks

  • @christophegilles4969
    @christophegilles4969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for this ! There is an option for hide the side of the helmet in the video or not ? Why no stabilization like GoPro ?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its all down to the mounting of the camera, if you moved it forward the helmet would not be visible. To a certain extent it depends on the shape of your helmet, the flatter the side the easier it is to get that effect. I guess the stabilisation is an expensive development, and this isn't an action camera as such. But thats a question you'd need to ask Sena

  • @capitainmr7634
    @capitainmr7634 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you record video and listen to music at the same time?

  • @The330racing
    @The330racing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Until the battery life gets more reasonable while recording, to me, I'd rather keep coms and camera separate.

  • @asdfjkl4809
    @asdfjkl4809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do an in depth video on using video tagging. I just purchased the 10c evo, do i set video mode setting to normal recording or loop recording. I have mine set to loop recording, after turning camera on and after 5 seconds, I hold down camera button for 3 seconds my unit does not say video tagging on, then i restart unit and if I hold camera button for 1 sec to turn on camera and let go unit says camera on and then immediately hold camera button down again for 3 seconds unit says video tagging on, at this point is the camera looping and waiting for me to tap camera button to start recording the 90 sec prior, 90 sec current, and 90 sec after from when i tap the camera button? After what seems like 270 seconds my unit says camera off , and is that what is supposed to happen. At that point if I tap camera button on am I recording 90,90 90, seconds of video again. Not sure if I am using video logging correctly. Thank You

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting, I'll take a look at it, I have to admit its not a function i've been that bothered about

  • @markdaws5476
    @markdaws5476 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 10c Pro. Can you use existing attachments for the Evo?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Attachments? As in mounting the unit the helmet do you mean?

    • @markdaws5476
      @markdaws5476 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mancavemoto Yes, sorry. Will the Evo fit onto the 10c Pro fixing.

    • @christophersmith5116
      @christophersmith5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mark, yes you can. The Evo fits in the Previous 10c and 10c PRO Helmet clamps and all attachments.

    • @darlingimscared
      @darlingimscared 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christophersmith5116 that as simple as it seems may swing it for me as I've got the 10c pro and could swap them out or something I'm not sure what for...as an excuse to buy the evo perhaps hmm ;)

  • @stevesteve1965
    @stevesteve1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For luddites like me it's perfect, especially as it has joint video/comms. This has always been my worry if I ever wanted to blog. 👍

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s simple to setup and works really well. A one stop shop

  • @RJHMotorbikeTraining
    @RJHMotorbikeTraining 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm impressed so far. I've increased my battery life by adding a portable charger which charges whilst filming. Happy days.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s good that there is that solution. Thanks for the comment

  • @mikehunt7480
    @mikehunt7480 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the music loud enough

  • @brucieg69
    @brucieg69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only they added the ability to change the battery on the go it would be a perfect solution!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, but you can plug into into a power supply whilst using

  • @olegyd
    @olegyd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evo camera 📷 is much better then 10c pro! Only 1 thing I dont like: why evo cannot make 60fr video in 1440 resolution or 4k resolution! Now 60fr full hd is only possible to do video 1440 or 4k 3ofr is to jerky….

    • @olegyd
      @olegyd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use 60fr picture will be much more smoother but only 1080 can use for 60fr!
      That biggest flaw of Evo

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep 4k at 60fps would be nice

  • @eladarye9817
    @eladarye9817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unbelievable... we have the same helmet the same Sena and we drive triumph tiger... lol ...

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some people just have great taste ;)

  • @Hichamelbanine
    @Hichamelbanine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So GoPro is so much better than The Sena 10C EVO right!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right! but......the GoPro doesnt have bluetooth comms ;)

  • @asdfjkl4809
    @asdfjkl4809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    quality is definitely better but at 30fps video is not fluid as it would be at 60 fps

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frame rate has no effect on video ‘quality’ in itself. The pixels will still be the same. The viewers perception of motion will be affected by the frame rate.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that’s what you’re getting at?

    • @asdfjkl4809
      @asdfjkl4809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am still having a issue with video tagging, from what I understand, camera is supposed to be looping and rewriting every minute, but when I put camera in tagging mode, camera says "camera recording", when it is supposed to be in standby mode, waiting for me to tap camera then it is supposed to record 1min before 1 min during and 1 min after.. am I doing something wrong is my camera defective

  • @asdfjkl4809
    @asdfjkl4809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4k uses 30fps so video quality is not as good as 60 fps, if I had to buy over I would just buy 10c pro but I paid $305 US so i can't complain from biohazardcycles

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fps won’t effect video quality itself, you’ll just get more motion blur when moving. Unless I need to freeze the action or use slow motion I’ll usually shoot video at 24 or 30 FPS for a more natural look.

  • @asdfjkl4809
    @asdfjkl4809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    viewing perception of motion is terrible at 30 fps

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      its not terrible, its just the motion blur you'd expect at that frame rate

  • @BeaverPelt66
    @BeaverPelt66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    really need the stabilization- eye fatigue very quickly

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be good for sure

  • @Mark_B544
    @Mark_B544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You lost me at 1.5 hours use

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is constant filming

    • @Noxxys
      @Noxxys 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could plug it to a power bank

    • @GOFast-dy4jk
      @GOFast-dy4jk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a remote battery pack that I put into my jacket and just run the wire to it so it’s mostly concealed and I never run out of battery life.

  • @ScragNath
    @ScragNath 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No 'Anti Shake' jumpy video.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, theres no stabilisation on the Sena camera