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Despite overwhelming support within Crimea to join the Russian Federation, Ukrainian forces refused to give up their naval and airbases to the Russians last week. In this dispatch, VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky visits the Belbek airbase, which was being overrun by Cossacks and members of Russian forces, who believe they had liberated Crimea - though local forces don't seem to agree.
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That is hardcore reporting right there! Love it and stay safe!
Were you born in the suburbs? Is an awkward exchange with some cossacks that hardcore for you?
Lmao this happens all the time not just in russia or ukraine, but in all of eastern europe. Things there might look "hardcore" to us, but thats just because we are lazy pigs that refuse to take action against unjustice, while people there are men of action.
I'm living in America right now, bro. But if you are referring to Crimea as a shithole that's your call.
Ivan Nikolayev I don't know if you missed the gunshots being fired
erik axel I doubt they were fired at this reporter for a hipster outlet. Looked to me like Simon was around dozens of other reporters behind the people advancing on a base who fired a shot to intimidate people inside to leave which they then proceeded to do.
Russia says that ethnic Russians were terribly oppressed in Crimea. Then, they say that 97% of the Crimean population voted for joining Russia. Those 3 % oppressing the remaining 97 % were badass.
97% of voters not 97% of people.
Galvars
Well, with some Russian politicians getting 146 % on the elections, I'm surprised it's not 99,9 as in North Korea. 'It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes'. J. Stalin
Nick Zeppelin True, true... they always have that problem with numbers. For the nation that give the world many fine mathematicians they really have problems with addition.
Proof? They say 81.3% of voters showed up at the polls. Made it up, didn't you?
George Keseyan
I didn't know that "Russia Today" and "they" can be used interchangeably in English, thanks for update ! The last official census done in Sevastopol on November 1, 2013, showed that there are 383 499 people residing there (these are open data). However, accordingly to the last referendum 474 137(!) of the residents showed up to vote. Condoms must have been expensive lately.
"We call them Martians"
Many people in Russia are actually like creatures from other planets. They simply don't see and understand anything
LOL have you tried to talk to them in Russian :p
MARS GANG
The Commander of the Ukrainian base will be a national hero in Ukraine. Hope he survives.
This comment aged well.
"Mamchur became a national hero in Ukraine and is considered a hero by Western media outlets. He is known to be calm, stoic and defiant. In the October 2014 Mamchur was elected into the Ukrainian parliament after being in the top 10 of the electoral list of Petro Poroshenko Bloc."
He was killing Ukrainian citizens in Lugansk region of Ukraine with air shellings. All their guilt is a refusal to recognize the illegal coup in Kiev
@Sasha [Саша] remind me at least one terroristuc act from Donbass. They have never been recognized as terrorists. Maidan is an act of terrorism, Ukraine now is a terroristic state
@@indycoon Does someone at least give you some roubles for these comments, or do you act this stupid for free?
It's really interesting to see how the Russians are trying their hardest to cover up what's actually going on.
I wouldn't even say they're trying
@@indycoon ahhahaha another "OPEN YOUR EYES" story :D It's all CIA fault, right :D :D :D :D ?
@@LTUGang maidan in kiev is CIA success, this is the result. People refused to rexognize the illegal government and obey their stupid demands, so they are just shelling them
@@LTUGang Crimea refused to recognize the illegal government, declared a referendum and people decided to join Russia. I see nothing bad here. Russia just helped to protect Crimea and avoid a war. I live in Crimea. You are brainwashed.
@@indycoon Referendum was illegal. Crimea was anexed illegaly. You nothing bad invvading countries and taking their land? I see nothing bad invading your home and living there without your permission. Why? Because nothing bad.
God speed brave Commander. That's how real officers act.
Look other videos how they were screaming "America is with us" ))
@@indycoon so? Whats the problem? I see only one problem here. Illegal foreign russian invasion. I don't see any american soldiers occupying Ukraine. Do you???????
@@LTUGangthe American invasion was in Kiev. Crimea is an autonomous republic with own government and parliament and it was legitimate unlike those in Kiev. So they took command over the ukrainian army in Crimea. Now most of this army serve in Crimea in the Russian Army. Why would they serve America like Kiev and kill their own citizens like the ukrainian army does in Donbass? And no, its not an invasion because Russia had troops in Crimea according to the agreement. Up to 20000. They just provided a safety and guarded weapon in order to avoid of war. They do it with an agreement with Crimean government.
@@LTUGang do you really believe its possible to occupy a republic with 2 millions people and 20000 troops with no war? I don't think so. Its only possible to separate peacefully because nobody wanted to recognize the illegal coup in Kiev. Let me remind you how Ukraine separated from USSR, it was after a coup in Moscow. So why is Crimea not allowed? Just because USA wanted to place their Navy base there? Don't dream, because people dont want it. Crimea is not Kosovo.
@@indycoon "American invasion was in Kiev" show me american armed forces in Kiev occupying Ukraine. Russian occupant terorists occupied east ukraine in anexed crimea. Crimea is anexed illegaly by terrorist state Russia. Russia is a threat to its neighbours. Russia steal land. Russia spreads fake news.
"If the camera was Russian it would still be working"
I didn't know Russia made cameras. But then I guess it comes fitted with a built in Kalashnikov?
LOL
Their orlan drones come with Japanese made Canon cameras
Thanks for the great work!
Very fine reporting, Simon. You really should be commended for your great work. You are simply not matched in the world's coverage on this issue. I say this sincerely.
Yeah it's pretty annoying when you see other reporters from places such as the BBC in the same places, seeing the same things and yet they seem to post very cherry picked snippets of what we actually have seen with our own eyes. Or they don't report on it at all
Russians calling jews nazi lol
Looks like you don't what nazism is.
Great job to VICE News on their Ukraine coverage.
I just don't get why they don't let the journalists do their work. And the question "what channel?", shows that they are clearly violating the freedom of press. Why don't let everyone do their jobs if they don't have anything to hide?
a lot of channels are bias and they can easily make things seem different. both sides cant really trust any journalist.
because this is obviously a proxy US/Russian coop of some kind or another and they don't want the "legality" of the situation to be published on air, why would people doing something obviously not lawful to destroy footage... The Russians or whoever are obviously inciting the people in that area and using them as a human shield instead of the Russian military going in by force then it causes a global conflict.. See if the "people are liberating their land" or whatever, then it's technichally legal in the world.. Wonderful world we live in
Ted Bundy Absolutely agree! Couldn't have said it better myself.
Vincent Zappulla Yeah, that's why they just should let every journalist do their work and in the end, someone who is interested in the truth can watch both sides and make himself an opinion. But if you say: "only russian media", that's pretty much propaganda because you only have one (biased) source.
ICHDERTWEETY They tried this before, people in Serbia tried to be peaceful towards journalists in the past, back in the Yugo wars. Wanna know what we got today?
The entire world thinks we committed war crimes in the Yugo wars. This is the biggest fucking joke since Caligula decided to go to war with Poseidon.
And not only that! People have been brainwashed for *15 fucking years* thinking Serbians committed genocides and war crimes in the Yugo wars, and they take it as a fucking fact, like it's a given.
I say, fuck all western journalists, we've seen what happens when we let them do their work, *entire nations* brainwashed into thinking bombing innocent civilians is humanitarian.
You would not believe some people i've seen on vice videos comments! They *still* think Serbians raped women on Kosovo and Bosnia, they still think we committed genocides! The propaganda is *so fucking jammed in their brains* that you *cannot* pull it out anymore, even after i present evidence to them, they still delete it from their memory. They are hopeless. It's best to just prevent such brainwashing from happening, because there is no reverse!
We could let *both* sides do their reportage, but that doesn't work! We let *both* sides do reportage back in the Yugo wars, and this is the situation we got today!
Russia did invade Ukraine. Weather you would like to admit it or not is up to you. Countries have borders for a reason and the reason is just that, to separate nations. Russia has with full knowledge disrupted the territorial integrity of Ukraine by mobilizing its troops in the region. At first claiming they were not Russian troops with zero opposition from the Ukrainian people and military in the area, they were able to systematically take down every single Ukrainian military base in the Crimean Peninsula, under the guise of a civilian pro-Russian revolt and a completely invalid unrealistic referendum, and used the Russian people already in Crimea as a diversion to the Russian troops storming the bases which belong to Ukraine. Crimea is and has been Ukrainian through treaties ratified by a popularly elected government by the people. To defy these treaties and take over the Ukrainian bases is still an invasion by the Russian military backed by Russian civilians who are a huge majority in Crimea. Those who opposed or protested this had no impact as they were simply drowned out by the pro-Russian masses. There's a majority of Russian people already in Crimea who claim Crimea is still Russian, but sorry to say the world doesn't work that way. Look at Nazi Germany annexing Austria and Poland and Czechoslovakia, claiming that the land and people are rightfully German so were just going to claim it for Germany. Crimea will never be recognized as Russian by the global community as long is it is forcefully occupied by the Russian military, which is to the rest of the world including Ukraine and the USA a preemptive act of aggression. Mr. Putin is playing war games, and its only a matter of time before he sets his sights on the rest of Ukraine... or god forbid further still. This will blow way out of proportions with extreme unintended consequences if Russia doesn't keep its hands out of the cookie jar.
It's the league of nations all over again. Putin knows the West is afraid of armed conflict and will do nothing. From a military stand point, it would unwise for Russia to invade the rest of Ukraine because the Russians have lost the surprise factor. It took 2 days for Russia to occupy the whole Crimean Peninsula and almost a whole month for the West to respond. If Putin wanted Ukraine, he could have within a week with little to no opposition. Ukraine didn't even have a Commander in Chief in Crimea for God's sake! But now Ukraine will be waiting with guns for the Russian Army and the West with sanctions. Putin won't invade the rest of Ukraine, if he does, he is a moron.
chaosXP3RT
You might also consider that it was too easy for Russians to occupy Crimea because overwhelming majority of Crimean population are non - Ukrainians. They don't even speak Ukrainian and historically Crimea never was part of Ukraine until 1954 Khrushchev's whimsikal decision to join Crimea to Ukraine.
The rest of Ukraine is completely different story.
Yes. Comparing Russia to Nazi Germany is totally acceptable. Not like the majority of the Crimean populace is RUSSIAN and not like the democratically elected Ukranian government was overthrown by US funded extremists just like in Egypt and Libya prior to the occupation.
Not like the Russian government is trying to protect it's citizens and stop a repeat of Ugoslavia.
You people with no stakes in the matter talk a bunch of uneducated bullshit from a western perspective. I have family in Crimea, I am Ukranian by blood and Russian by nationality. It pains me to see idiots such as yourself influencing peoples perspective on the matter when you yourself know fuck all except the propaganda that you see.
Leo Kolotilenko I do not intend to influence peoples opinion. i am only voicing my opinion and wishing to learn as much as possible about these things. I am watching a news story on it, after all. Gaining the most perspectives on a subject is the best way to the most unbiased truth, but no truth is purely unbiased. I am interested in what you think of the matter (I assume you are Pro-Russia? Because you have Russian nationality) and I understand your frustration with America and all our interventions in other peoples affairs. Also it's spelled Yugoslavia.
Leo Kolotilenko
Why do we keep seeing and hearing about Ukranian's asking for support from the West? I guess the US and Russia need to have joint observers in the Ukraine to see what's really going on and keep Putin, the West and the Ukraine in check. Of course our media here in the US lies to us and the Russian media lies too.
If you got rid of the damned politicians then I doubt there would be much left to fight over.
"If the camera was Russian it would still be working!" LOL
Thanks again Vice
stay safe, Simon and crew
***** they are all proud russians now. they chose to become russians by their own will. RUSSEEUH RUSSEEUH
readyrepairs
they were russians 60 years ago, before crimea was given to ukraine on a whim by a dictator, and wanted to go back ever since.
you have no idea of the history of that place
Indeed, 123% in Sevastopol are Russian.
Old school journalism. Excellent reporting!
Did Vice News quit reporting in Ukraine? Where is #19?
seems things are getting heated
I'm kind of worried now. Two days without an update, I'm used to daily uploads hope he's okay and not in some prison
All their reporters are probably locked up.
jonathans214 He's not. According to his twitter, he slipped through to the continental part of Ukraine.
There is nothing to film in peaceful Crimea now.
Love the dudes reaction at 0:35. he had the 'Which rock have you been hiding under in' look, lol.
never been to Ukraine ...been to Russia, and its interesting to watch some of these episodes.. but i couldnt give two fucks, Russia is a shit house of a nation anyway, most parts its like your living back in the stoneage and when you think they have progressed foward its like watching a bad movie of blade runner lol
dude I am from Ukraine, what Russia is doing right now is complete bullshit. No one gives a fuck about us, untill it comes to nuclier wepons. I respect all people who support Ukraine, but I dislike the fact that no country is considering to actually help us. Russia is going to do everything it can to take over Ukraine. But you can take my motherland, but you wont take the motherland out of me! SLAVA UKRAINE - HEROYAM SLAVA!
Dimitriy Palovich sorry my friend to hear that, i dont want to jump on any sides ... im just going with what i see here and what my epxeriences are in Russia... Spent 3 months travelling in Russia , like any other country you have your good and bad, but from my end it was more bad, alot of the people were ignorant ...NOT ALL , but most were , esp with the issues of racism and there perspective on world views are that of the 19th century lol...it seems like the sterotypical russia that everyone has come to expect ..but alot of the youth are duped into Putins policies and leadership and starting to voice there opinions alot more..but in all it was just a total new experience , had some good times but mostly bad experieces that i dont wana brag on about... i just hope that whatever happens that both countries come to some sort of medium in sorting these issues out..
Dimitriy Palovich in your opinion, was Viktor Yanukovych democratically elected?
Dimitriy Palovich Man if i just could help, come to sweden more immigrants than swedes here anyway
Rodrik Spolvelolm Dont think like that, us swedes cant just let more immigrants come simply because there are already so many...if anthing its the opposite we should want.
omg I thought those dog noises in the beginning were Zombies. First Russia and now a zombie outbreak fuck Ukraine can't get a break...
Probably the most amusing and intelligent comment made here.
They sure make it look like they are hiding something, they get violent seeing a camera. If everything is on the up and up , why act so guilty ?
Kamal Benipal
Vice shows you footage without commenting on most of it. Russians news keep saying that Nazis have invaded and are massacring Russians everywhere.
lanciadr
Oh really? Haven't seen such news for a while
Kamal Benipal You're still watching VICE news after commenting on multiple videos on how biased it is. Do you have a life? Or is this it
lanciadr Hahahaha... You need to watch this whole video again. The reporter is clearly taking sides and giving his opinions instead of being neutral and reporting facts
Telling the truth is not called taking sides.
The Russian are still playing nicer than the Americans, sadly.
Wait till they invade the Ukraine in May after the problem of rasputitsa (General Mud) dissipates and the mysterious masked men begin the ethnic cleansing of the Crimea and the Ukraine.
John Culley I hope the Ukrainians didn't hand over their weapons of course it's not like they stand a chance against the Russians. My advice is for every other nation to mind it's own business and line the borders around neighboring countries to the Ukraine and pay very close attention to the Russian/Syria affiliation.
Damn, Vice News, you just nail it every time! Brilliant work! Brilliant! Many regards to the camera man for saving the footage!! He's got his experience by dodging Brekut at Armiansky checkpoint ;)
Simon Ostrovsky imo ,Hands Down Best Male Reporter
Some crazy stuff is going down. Thank you vice, Simon Ostrovsky, all of you other journalists for bringing hard evidence and being brave enough to keep it rolling.
If people don't want to live in the Ukraine than move back to Russia it's a big enough country...it's not that complicated
Maybe you should move to democracy Libya or maybe Syria, also Afghanistan? Good for you
@@ALSea24 AFGHANISTAN IT WAS THE SOVIETS THAT CREATED THIS BY INVADING AFGHANISTAN BACK IN THE DAY The rise of ISIS, explained in 6 minutes th-cam.com/video/pzmO6RWy1v8/w-d-xo.html
ISIS CAME OUT OF AL QAEDA, ISIS was founded by Abu Musab Al Zarqawi who originally was a member of the top Al Qaeda !!! ... The split came due to power struggles with in the org.
After the death of Osama bin Laden (terrorist) and his protege Ayman al-Zawahiri (terrorist)'s incompetence in carrying out bad deeds, Abu Musab Al Zarqawi started ISIS... Abu Musab Al Zarqawi see this fight as a continuens of the Afghan war with Russia and the west !!! As ISIS see all of the world as an Islamic state !!
NEXT YOU WILL ASK WHO GAVE mujahideen STINGER MISSILES YES...back in the day ....
YES it was the USA but they did not start the war in AFGHANISTAN BACK IN THE DAY that was Russia controlled USSR that started ...
The Russians started this problems by invading Afghanistan the stinger was to help defenseless people from what the USSR was doing with helicopter gunships they was killing in a scale that even STALIN will have be disgusted with a massive onslaught of killing of civilians So the fact the USA give them some help from the evil of Russian control evil USSR is a good thing..
And lets get sone facts correct the Taliban my friend was never in good with the oval office in the 80's, or with Reagen or anyone else as the Taliban did not see the light of day before after the war when the USSR war was over and the USSR had pulled out of Afghanistan and left it in a power vacuum with war lords all over the place...
The people that was in good the with the oval mujahideen that helped us fight the evil of Russian USSR in the 80' was the leaders of the mujahideen fighters and the mujahideen fighters ended up late as the North United Front The United Front was formed in late 1996 against the Taliban government by opposition factions.
But after the USA invaded Afghanistan North Front became part of the North Alliance (The Afghan Northern Alliance officially known as the United Islamic Front for the Salvation o they became part of the Afghanistan ) and they was hard core enemies of the Taliban. The Taliban was brake aways groups from the mujahideen but was never the mujahideen we had as allies YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT]
SOVIETS THAT CREATED THIS BY INVADING AFGHANISTAN
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Former KGB Officer Konstantin Preobrazhensky
How the Russian KGB run Islamic Terrorism th-cam.com/video/0AqMCLqTRFo/w-d-xo.html
@@ALSea24MAYBE YOU NEED A HISTORY LESSON !!
AFGHANISTAN IT WAS THE SOVIETS THAT CREATED THIS BY INVADING AFGHANISTAN BACK IN THE DAY The rise of ISIS, explained in 6 minutes th-cam.com/video/pzmO6RWy1v8/w-d-xo.html
ISIS CAME OUT OF AL QAEDA
ISIS was founded by Abu Musab Al Zarqawi who originally was a member of the top Al Qaeda !!! ... The split came due to power struggles with in the org.
After the death of Osama bin Laden (terrorist) and his protege Ayman al-Zawahiri (terrorist)'s incompetence in carrying out bad deeds, Abu Musab Al Zarqawi started ISIS... Abu Musab Al Zarqawi see this fight as a continuens of the Afghan war with Russia and the west !!! As ISIS see all of the world as an Islamic state !!
NEXT YOU WILL ASK WHO GAVE mujahideen STINGER MISSILES YES...back in the day ....
YES it was the USA but they did not start the war in AFGHANISTAN BACK IN THE DAY that was Russia controlled USSR that started ...
The Russians started this problems by invading Afghanistan the stinger was to help defenseless people from what the USSR was doing with helicopter gunships they was killing in a scale that even STALIN will have be disgusted with a massive onslaught of killing of civilians So the fact the USA give them some help from the evil of Russian control evil USSR is a good thing..
And lets get sone facts correct the Taliban my friend was never in good with the oval office in the 80's, or with Reagen or anyone else as the Taliban did not see the light of day before after the war when the USSR war was over and the USSR had pulled out of Afghanistan and left it in a power vacuum with war lords all over the place...
The people that was in good the with the oval mujahideen that helped us fight the evil of Russian USSR in the 80' was the leaders of the mujahideen fighters and the mujahideen fighters ended up late as the North United Front The United Front was formed in late 1996 against the Taliban government by opposition factions.
But after the USA invaded Afghanistan North Front became part of the North Alliance (The Afghan Northern Alliance officially known as the United Islamic Front for the Salvation o they became part of the Afghanistan ) and they was hard core enemies of the Taliban. The Taliban was brake aways groups from the mujahideen but was never the mujahideen we had as allies YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT]
SOVIETS THAT CREATED THIS BY INVADING AFGHANISTAN
ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh ExplainedISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh Explained th-cam.com/video/8EMUSzWoJYY/w-d-xo.html
Former KGB Officer Konstantin Preobrazhensky
How the Russian KGB run Islamic Terrorism th-cam.com/video/0AqMCLqTRFo/w-d-xo.html
@@ALSea24 IRAQ Why did America invade Iraq in 2003? Was it for oil? Or was it because Saddam Hussein was a mass-murdering dictator who harbored terrorists and threatened the region with Weapons of Mass Destruction?
If it was the former, wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just buy Iraq's oil on the open market?
And if it was the latter, why did Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and John Kerry support President Bush?
Noted British historian, Andrew Roberts, has the answers.
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Members of Congress of both political parties, and members of the United Nations Security Council, (that both Russia and China are members of and both have veto rights in the UN Security Council ) agree at the time that Saddam Hussein is a threat to peace and must disarm.
Following the adoption of Security Council Resolution 1483 two months after the war, then-UN Secretary General Kofi Annan appointed a Special Representative for Iraq and the UN assumed some small responsibilities there.
In August 2003, an attack on UN headquarters in Baghdad confirmed the critics' fears, killing fifteen UN staff including the Special Representative. The UN in February 2004, the UN agreed to send a mission to the country, to help construct a new interim government..
US and UK officials have argued that existing UN Security Council resolutions related to the 1991 Gulf War and the subsequent ceasefire (660, 678), and to later inspections of Iraqi weapons programs (1441), had already authorized the invasion,,
The United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 and 67 and 1441 made the iraq war legal !!
United Nations Security Council Resolution 660,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_660
United Nations Security Council Resolution 678
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_678
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1441
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1483
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1483
@@ALSea24 LIBYA Claim: NATO's operation over Libya was illegitimate
The NATO-led operation was launched under the authority of two UN Security Council Resolutions (UNSCR), 1970 and 1973, both quoting Chapter VII of the UN Charter, and neither of which was opposed by Russia.
www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/RES/1970(2011)
www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/RES/1973(2011)
UNSCR 1973 authorized the international community "to take all necessary measures" to "protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack". This is what NATO did, with the political and military support of regional states and members of the Arab League.
After the conflict, NATO cooperated with the UN International Commission of Inquiry on Libya, which found no breach of UNSCR 1973 or international law, concluding instead that "NATO conducted a highly precise campaign with a demonstrable determination to avoid civilian casualties."
IF RUSSIA DID NOT PLAY BALL ON THE LYBIA ISSUE AND RUSSIA DID NOT WANT THE UN TO ASK NATO TO TAKE OUT LYBIA WHY DID RUSSIA NOT USE ITS VETO RIGHT IN THE UN AND STOP ANY ACTION ????
The people of Crimea rose up against the Ukrainian oppressor and found a few BTR's lying around and led the operation to retake Belbek. What a touching story
I doubt that, if people really had a problem with the government, they'd probably just fight the government, like everyone else in the world does.
He was being sarcastic. No way civilians got a hold of BTRs of course.
BlinkingBulbStudios That's really not a problem to get one, you can buy it. Russian sell them very cheap, but you know... without weapons or some communications equipment. ( not sarcasm )
Ohhh... and those martians get uniforms from survival shop's. ( sarcasm )
"If the camera was Russian it would still be functional" lol 3:45
thanks for that great series of journalism. you realize what the big TV-stations arent willing and/or able to do. i hope vice keeps it up for a long time. take care
Hahahaha ! "We call them Martians" I get it now ! Strange soldiers wearing black masks, and with no insígnia, Putin denies them, nobody knows where they came from and who they are, they might as well be aliens !
It's OBVIOUSLY the Illuminati!!! ~Sarcasm
If no identification or markers then they can be shot on the spot as brigands, looters, spies and terrorists. And if Putin does not claim them as his then he has no right to whine should they fall
True, but it is more because those are the Russian Special Forces who landed in Crimea at the very start - green uniforms without insignia. They started calling them "Little Green Men" and I suppose from there they went to "Martians" :)
Simon Ostrovsky and the Vice team in Crimea, Donetsk and Kiev deserve a well respected media award for these posts. I hope at some point Vice will combine and edit all these posts into one film. It's the best media reporting and filming on the crises by a long shot.
God....the UN and the EU have been so incredibly useless in this situation.
The more I follow this the more I admire the Ukrainians.This makes me wanna visit Kiev.
They must feel so down after what just happened to their country.I really hope they know we're watching them and are with them all the way.
We? Who is "we"?
Russia has nukes; Ukraine used to have but now does not. Russia flows oil and gas to the EU; Ukraine does not despite having a huge reserve under the Black Sea shelf. Russia has a seat in the UN security council with veto power; Ukraine does not. Simple equation. Enough said :(
You are reading too much Western propaganda if you think this is just about plucky Ukraine against big bully Russia
at least UN and the EU was extremely helpful when US bombed Belgrade for its attempt to keep their territorial integrity
Thank`s! "Yes, everything is OK- DEMOCRACY!" Give away camera! Fuck! Shut DOWN!
P.S. Here we are.
journalism doesn't get better than this crew
-- NATO's top military commander expressed concern Sunday about the buildup of Russian forces on Ukraine's border, as Moscow's forces consolidated their control of Crimea over the weekend.
Supreme Allied Commander Europe Gen. Philip Breedlove said Russia had a large force on Ukraine's eastern border and that he was worried it could pose a threat to Moldova's separatist Trans-Dniester region.
"The (Russian) force that is at the Ukrainian border now to the east is very, very sizable and very, very ready," Breedlove, a U.S. Air Force general, said.
"There is absolutely sufficient force postured on the eastern border of Ukraine to run to Trans-Dniester if the decision was made to do that, and that is very worrisome."
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Is Russian intent on starting World War 3?
I don't think they'll dare to, but if Russia did something stupid, they'll face Ukrainian army and volunteers, Ukraine is a large country and Russia would need to deploy 200 000 combat troops to have any initial success in taking over eastern Ukraine, let alone taking on whole of Ukraine.
mic of orion dude don't forget the the Ukraine army have outdated weapons compare to the Russian
Is Russia starting WW3?
There we go blowing shit out of proportion again. Soon as there's a diplomatic crisis everyone gets a world war 3 boner.
Russia has been exercising muscle in Eastern Europe since the start of the empire. Remember Georgia? remember Chechnya? both within the last 20 years or so. Don't get all excited and spread this shit just because Russia is grabbing at land and knows it will get away with it.
You mean does the USSA intend to start WW3? They are the ones that causes the coup in Ukraine... twice.
billyjack70 The coup was caused by Putin's puppet Yankofuck, that didn't do what the people wanted and sign a trade deal with the EU. Just because we support the Ukrainians doesn't mean we caused the coup.
When I saw the Ukranian soldiers singing the national anthem I just thought that these guys were really brave. No matter what side you are on, what they did should be respected.
As a vet myself I completely agree. Guts in such a tense situation.
No dispatch nineteen? I wonder if they're ok :/
Checked Simon's twitter, he's alright. He's in mainland Ukraine now covering Right Sector's protest in Kiev of the new government's handling of the Crimea crisis.
So much for press freedom in Russia.
You thought it existed prior to this event?
Sorry, it was intended to be a sarcastic remark. :P
This is EXCELLENT journalism, and it is being done in the most difficult of circumstances - a chaotic situation, misinformation, the threat of violence, open hostility to those reporting - yet somehow Simon is thoughtfully adding perspective and insight.
There is no true vested interest for the US in the Crimea and Ukraine, but more of a sentimental concern for the underdog nation seeking EU relations. Simon certainly does NOT have a vested interest or an agenda - he is simply reporting with thought and common sense (and that is NOT true for all VICE reporters).
Russia is not fooling anybody by repeating the consistent mantra of "these are citizens Crimea, not Russian soldiers leading the way." Think of the citizen lead riots in Kiev; it was a chaotic disorganized mess, without consistent slogans. Anything led by actual citizens is going to be that chaotic and disorganized. The efforts in Crimea have the canard of citizen leadership....but the Russian army is just a kiss away.
Putin and Russia are insulting our intelligence by trying to say this is a legitimate local Crimean citizens lead effort, just as Bush and Cheney insulted our intelligence a decade ago by saying Iraq would "greet us as liberators."
Stay safe, Simon, and keep doing what you are doing. It is important to have your perspective.
no, this is propaganda.
There are no Russian soldiers, VICE is lying.
VICE knows that the "Russian Soldiers" , are a local militia of Ukrainians and Russians (aka Residents of Crimea) .
More than HALF the Ukrainians in the base, left the base and make up part of the "Russian Force" .
Crimea is not Ukraine , they are separate and TWICE voted for independence from Ukraine. Crimea was "occupied" jointly by Ukraine and Russia.
The vote of session was the 3rd referendum to leave Ukraine.
Crimea , is like Scotland.
I like how VICE just shows whats happening, they're reporting events, they're just reporting events
That's whats news is all about
You have the option to mute the video
Ukraine is handling this the best they can. They are letting Russia be the aggressor because the world will see their actions against a smaller, more peaceful nation.
#geopolitcs
Ukraine doesn't have much choice otherwise.. They don't many people they have few outdated weapons and a very poor country in comparison to Russia.
"...more peaceful nation." Would that be the guys that were burning the cops alive on Maidan? Or, just the neo-nazi who broke into the prosecutor's office and threatened to hang him in the street? Just curious.
Dafttar These cops were killing them. I watched it life, on Espresso TV, how at night the snipers sculked among trees, right along the Berkut line. They were killing people, one by one. And later these cops, you seem to be so sorry for, didn't even allow the ambulances to come in and help the wounded. I saw it with my own eyes. And I cried. I'm not even Ukrainian...actually some of my ancestors were killed by Ukrainians. By I cried watching people killed in such deceitful and cruel way. Therefore I won't ever believe your russka propaganda. You even try to tell the world that the snipers were from CIA and killed both cops and Ukrainian. You propaganda is brazen and so mendacious - like nobody elses in the world.
Maryla Anonim Well the Estonian Foreign Minister think it was opositions snipers, and the FACT that nobody cares even to investigate what happen in maidan square make it thery suspicious. Of course why investigate the deaths of "martyrs" that sustain their illegal goverment. Have a nice day!
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573923/Estonian-Foreign-Ministry-confirms-authenticity-leaked-phone-call-discussing-Kiev-snipers-shot-protesters-possibly-hired-Ukraines-new-leaders.html
Estonian Foreign Minister confirmed his conversation with Catherine Ashton. In this conversation he talked about the information he received from some social activist named Olga. When commenting on the news, Estonian Foreign Minister requested journalists to be very cautious when commenting on the recording because this was only one of the many versions circulating about the events in Ukraine. Literally, he said - "gossips". So, you want a gossip to be investigated. All of them or only this one? Because even more reports talk about Russian snipers shooting in Kiev!
I'm not buying your russian bullhit - I saw with my own eyes snipers shooting under the protection of Berkut militia. They were hiding among the trees, and the Berkut was just 3-4 meters away. You can say whatever you want, but it's obvious Berkut wouldn't have protected the oposition snipers. On the internet there are many films and pictures showing the snipers shooting from behind Berkut militia lines. Are you going to tell me Berkut not only allowed oposition snipers hide behind them but also protected them with their gear? You can tell such rubbish to people who didn't follow the events in Ukraine. I know better.
And one more thing. Russians are very well known for sending their agents to other countries. In Poland they heavily infiltrated the Solidarity movement and 25 years later we still discover Russian moles in politics, military, bizness. How do we know that "social activist Olga" wasn't in fact a Russian agent? Just waiting for a moment when she can do most harm. Based on my knowlege - and I follow Middle and East European history and politics for years the actions of your government are continuously EVIL.
Man I love VICE, this is right there almost up to the day. You are doing awesome work.
Thanks again Simon and the crew.
Wow, shit might just hit the fan still..
1:12 I hate that stupid whistle ringtone...everyone has it
and thats what your pissed about? hahahahaha
MrVaepOr *you're
Thanks so much for posting these.. I follow them daily!
How far do we let Russia go? i say stop it now
Don't be naive... that's probably the same shit people said back when Hitler was doing his thing.
*****
not talking about kiev - im talking about Russia and stopping them from taking over the world
not talking about the U.S or NATO - Russia invaded a neighboring country they should be stopped
*****
So when do we stop them after the first country the second... the third?... When do you think it would it be a good time?
Are you going to go fight ?
Thank you for the awesome work you are doing! Keep going! The international community needs to see true, unbiased news from Crimea.
I hope the Air Base Commander is okay. He seemed like a capable officer. Gotta respect that.
Yes, he is now to serve in the Russian army :D He has done a great service to Russian, Ukrainian flag raising and shouting at the camera "America is with us" :D These frames have become a meme in runet.
@@APXuBAHgAJI man this comment aged like milk
The commander was released from russian armed forces in 2014 and lived in mykolaiv where he served in parliament until 2019 where he failed re-election
So was this the last one or something because at the end it did not say to be continued. Please vice news more. If you can.
And Simon, stay safe over there! Your doing an amazing job!
Before the Annex of Austria, Hitler invaded the Rhineland, an area of demilitarised german land. It was 100% German and during WW2 became one of the hardest areas for western Allied forces to breakthrough.
Austria was Annexed next via a "Bloodless" revolution by the Austrian Nazis followed by a German invasion army, exactly like Crimea. Like Crimea, it was 80-95% German.
Soon, the sudetenland, an area of Czechoslovakia, was taken in a small skirmish with Czech army, then the rest of Czech was taken by Russia. It had 22% german population
Next Poland was taken, starting WW2, costing the lives of 80 million people. It is widely known that if Hitler had been stoped before the take over of Czech, WW2 would not have happened.
All the time the allied forces sat back, giving their sanctions and warning, doing nothing. Im apart of the UK and I dont understand why nothing stronger is being done to take Russia back a step. Not by war, but harsher sanctions, bigger backings to eastern European countries, support of UN intervention and protection of civillians. Because sooner or later Putin may decide that the 8000 Russians in poland need liberated, since moldova, and Ukraine passed "So happily".
Well, compared to all the blood letting the US does all over the globe, I sure prefer these kind of solutions ..
*****
Because letting Nazi Germany do what it wanted ended so well.
Better make a out of context comparison to the U.S because that excuses everything.
Hitler was far more aggressive than Putin though. Putins just trying to maintain his puppet regime in ukraine, whilst hitler was trying to openly dominate the world, bit of a difference...not saying what putin is doing is right, but i dont think hes as big an idiot, he had the whole crimea thing planned from the very start.
Well, the main difference between Austria and Sudentenland and this scenario is that the government of those two areas hadn't just recently been violently overthrown by a coup.
*****
What the hell is wrong with you people that always have to make comparisons to America? Noone cares, most people here aren't even from the US. Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because America also did something bad doesn't justify Russias action.
Small taste of "freedom of press". The shape of things to come...
As opposed to Western military operations that are always allowed to be completely filmed by journalists. oh...wait. Never mind. Good luck making this footage in the new free Iraq.
Ivan Nikolayev As a matter of fact Western military operations are allowed to be filmed by journalists. They even have [gasp] embedded journalists that tag along with combat units and not always portrait military in a positive light. Oh the humanity!
With that said, this situation in Crimea was not a "military" operation. Nor was it super-duper secret. Not like they were about to storm a nuke factory. They were simply evicting unarmed pilots and grease monkeys. Why can't they let media film it? What is so secret about it? And if the journalist did film it - why break his camera? Surely there has to be a more civil way to handle the situation instead of acting like a bunch of censor-thugs.
Again, I stand by my comment - this is the shape of things to come: unreasonable searches and seizures, censored media and general lawlessness.
Ivan Nikolayev Actually journalist are allowed.hell even the military film what they do bad or good and we see it.
hypsin Is that why we found out about the abuse of prisoners from social medial posts some of the soldiers made? You guys are naive if you think that embedded journalists are not overseen by military's pr people. The embedded program was introduced to avoid the media free for all that happened in Vietnam. This is actually why vice avoids being embedded journalism as much as they can. Then again, maybe I a goofy for believing that [gasp] embedded journalists serves as [gasp] tools in a smart pr operation. ~Ivan's Shady Existence Blog
wow vice these are really good videos
keep up the great work vice, i always look forward to my daily ukraine video from you guys!
Wow Man, Great Work....Bad Ass Vice News
Depressing
WHY??? 80% are going to serve in the Russian Military getting at least 200% salary bump up to Russian standards. 20% are going back to their families in the mainland. Justice, Freedom, Happiness.
Justice? LOL nope. Justice that Putin got Crimea Illegally?
Freedom? Tell that to the press, Gays, and Muslims.
Happiness? Tell that to both the gays and Muslims in Russia.
judge
Russia is 105th in the world byt quality of life. That 200% bump wont do much difference is the country that is fundamentally broken.
"...чтобы мы сняли результат захвата..эээ, как бы..победы?"
Всё правильно делают. В Киеве можно захватывать, а тут нельзя?
пойду банк ограблю.всем можна а мне нельзя?
В Киеве захватывали ода.
А эти захватывают оружие, транспорт.
TheLester4444Ну а что Правому сектору можно неужели остальным сотням банков не достанется ?))
Вы, конечно, извините, но логика у вас ущербная.
Ukraine must apply force, to show some backbone!
Zaebis komment.
*****
Ofcourse! If you get punched in face by a russian, he will not respect you unless you punch him back. Look how taliban never gave up and still gives fear to their land!
*****
Most powerful army? The USA! Russia is just a little over china, but falls flat on ass comparing to the strongest one.
Just look at aircraft:
www.globalfirepower.com/aircraft-total.asp
if usa is strong why isis still exists hmmm
No filming!! No Camera!! Unless you have something to hide, something you don't want to rest of the world to know.
***** That's because there were riots and the police were on pretty high alert from the combination of riots and organized protests. The DNC has some of the highest profile politicians in the US and consequently the most people trying to kill them. We are comparing apples and oranges here
***** oh, well in that case it's okay then.
what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
I think that it's ridiculous that the only reason that there are so many ethnic Russians in Crimea is because the Tartars that originally resided there were forcibly moved to areas like Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan during the reign of the USSR.
The precedents Russia is setting are scary as fuck.
Stay safe simon, and stay safe ukraine, my thoughts go out to you guys from canada
This is quality reporting! Be careful!
The US overthrew a democratically elected government in Kiev. The Crimean people VOTED for Russian affiliation. We all support democratic referendums, do we not?
Not unless its bad for Israel.
Lickity Split
an anti-semite on youtube rambling about jews on a video that has nothing to do with them? Well I never! And with an anti-US bias and probably thinks Jews run the world? Tell me more about your geopolitical views, you sound so informed...
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No doubt the elected leader was corrupt. But the US Dept.of State gave $5 Billion towards the opposition. George Soros donated a few million as well. After the ouster of the established government, Washington then installed their hand picked puppets in their stead. I would hardly think this to be a democratic process.
***** There were hundreds of international monitors! the result was because it is what the people wanted!
thats funny cuz not only people from the Crimea voted, a lot of ppl from RF came to the Crimea and voted also a lot of people who supports Ukraine just scared to woto cuz its dangerous they are getting beat up for nothing !!!!
stay safe simon & cameramen! isnt simon's cleft chin amazing btw?
I admire the Ukraine commander so much,he's a legend
So, ukraine has officially given order to withdraw all military forces from crimea. Well it makes sense now that almost every military base is already taken and the elite marine base was stormed and the marines were taken to the unknown location by the invaders. Good timing, I have to say.
um, in dispatch seventeen some ukrainian soldiers said, they would now serve in the russian military, so they're probably in russian bases now, i guess.
stevqtalent My thoughts exactly. Depends on what media you read, you get very different view what's happening. It seems that quite a lot of military personel is changing sides and most of this is not reported by the press. If a military base with 40+ migs decide to defect, that should be news with a big N.
opmdevil Not to mention that Russia took over Ukraine's only submarine and their Battleship or destroyer in Crimea
It will be interesting to see if the Russians let the Ukraine battleships leave the harbor.
Adam Dalsheim i doubt it. among the ships that were raided is the only ukrainian ship to be called modern, so i think they'll keep that and leave ukraine with their shitty soviet ships. also the ships raised the russian flag, a good indicator that they will not be given back.
Damn, those Russians seriously don't like cameras...
Thnks for the great work
That is one tuff and loyal Commander of Ukraine! I will pray for him and all Ukraine!
NATO commander is worried about the possibility of Russian also annexing Moldova.
It is because of a separatist part of Moldova that has been appealing to Russia. Russian parliament also made comments about ethnic Russians in Estonia. Russia needs to calm down before it throws its foreign relations down the toilet.
Russia should simply take the opportunity and get the rest of Ukraine back into the fold ..
I guess it it is OK for anybody to go in Russia and take Russian land
So where is the next dispatch?
badass ukraine commander. yeah, massive respect
I hope the GRU didn't take simon and his crew into custody.
If the next dispatch is filled with Russian propaganda then we know they went Manchurian Candidate on his ass....
The poor guy was probably afraid to lose his retirement package, otherwise he would have rushed to join Russian military as many of his colleagues did. The truly astounding lack of morale shown by Ukraine's troops gives a good hint as to the level of support for the new junta in Kiev.
Scherzo7 Right. Or maybe morale was down because they were surrounded and greatly outnumbered by Russian forces invading their country? Just a thought.
Scherzo7
They only had constant calls from Kyiv demanding to hold on. Great support isn't it?
h0pje yeah, unlike Maidan terrorists, Ukrainian soldiers in Crimea showed remarkable restraint and refused to shoot at their fellow countrymen who supported Russia's actions.
Scherzo7 Who are the "maiden terrorists"?
Very late comment, but crazy to know that the footage of the naval commander might be one of the last times he was seen
cant you post longer dispatchs?
1:12
message tone of some smartphone
I didnt know it was legal to capture foreign military arms
Whenever authorities demand that cameras be turned off it's always in the same voice, no matter what language, because they know they're in the wrong.
Почему такие короткие ролики?
So civilians break down a gate on a naval base and then Russian soldiers walk in right behind them - and they say the Ukrainians use civilians as human shields... Oh the irony...
I hope the Crimeans are enjoying that "freedom of the press".
How did you guys get footages from this surveillance camera ?
Probably they owned it.
the ukrainian troops put that camera there and it was livestreaming for several days
i remember reading something about it a few days ago, so if you want sources google it.
ifgmbtf Oh ok ! Thanks for the heads up
Sorry but could someone please shortly explain to me what exactly Cossaks are, are the military or police or some other sort of group? Thanks
Cossacks is a paramilitary class people in Russia and Ukraine. They have very traditional views (religion, patriotism, and control)
Crimea was, is, and will be russian. Deal with it. Crimeans have made their choice. Ukraine is doomed economically. People just want a better future for their children. Pensions and salaries will be in russian standard. 3 times higher than in Ukraine. Infrastructure will be rebuilt. New resorts opened. Millions of tourists from Russia and abroad. New jobs available. Just deal with it.
Important: The US Navy or NATO will not be in Crimea. 04/15/2014 the US Department of the Navy had to cancel the famous Sevastopol School #5 Renovation bid ;)
Why do all of the Martians wear black face coverings? Reminds me of muslim women that are not allowed to show their faces. Maybe Putin has turned into a Muslim and makes his army cover their face.
dang..
Is this the last one?
Essential:
If a drunken Cossack promise you to lead a way to Russian military base it means nothing )))
The ukrainian commander is dead because he's not giving up. Just a hunch.
Man I thought the camera man was going to to get shot right there real hardcore reporting man
Thanks
you guys should ware google glass when you cant film with your regular cam
With all the violence, chances are they'd get knocked off and broken.
The main reporter glasses is still intact
rik rad
True.
-Who lead operation?
-Self defence forces. People. Angry citizens.
Simply... Against army...
Yes I believe.
There is no way the Ukrainian army can fire against civilians. They will get butchered the the Russian special forces after. It's a no win situation. And the guys who stormed the base knew this.
This is unreal!
I think something happen to Simon haven't seen dispatch 19 in a while
We came here lawfully
Rams gate with apc