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Just a few days after Crimeans overwhelmingly voted in a referendum to join Russia, the crisis across the peninsula has taken its first life. In dispatch 15, VICE News' Simon Ostrovsky attends the funeral of the young Tatar man whose body was found this week after he was beaten by Cossacks. Despite this death, residents across Crimea are hopeful that joining Russia will bring them a brighter future.
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_Here, take a picture of this. Twelve megapixels, bitch. Here you go!_
***** why is it 13?
***** The guy said 12 unless you know how to speak Russian and that the translator got it wrong.
Starfruit thats conjecture at this point.Those two words are so similar. It like mixing up kilt and killed
Starfruit He said twelve.
They always say provocateur. It's getting old..
And staying true...
Not really, that other old man (not on the phone) was just trolling. No reason to say that.
I will tell you who were really trolling there.Snipers who killed armless Ukrainian solder and armless pro Russian citizen outside a fence.Old school CIA provocation.But why they didnt say a word about the pro Russian guy death.Strange.
*****
what do you mean "make up"?You dont know about snipers yet?Your media is shitting in your head.Have some self respect,search from different sources to get real picture.
*****
And I didnt know that there may be such a great jokes in the world.I pissed my pants it was so funny.You should consider the clown career for yourself.Dont waste your ingenious humor on me, that gift belongs to all the ppl.
I'm glad this reporter is not a push over, lmao when the dude thought he could push him around like the other reporters, love this dude. R.I.P to the Tatar and the Ukrainian soldier.
R.I.P to 2 pro-Russian protesters killed on Feb 26 near Crimean parliament by the Tatar-Ukrainian activists. It was before Russia began to do something. Happily it was stopped.
@@indycoon do not forget to condole with the citizens of Yugoslavia whom your countrymen bombed
@@user-fx2vr2tt5t I'm Russian and live in Crimea. My country didn't bomb Yugoslavia. Причем тут Югославия вообще?
@@indycoon dont remind him , he is piss of scumbag
R.I.P to 46 pro-russian protesters killed by ukrainian fascist hooligan in odessa, ukraine
"we can shoot you but you cant shoot us" 😂😂😂
In Russian language To shoot You also means to Take A Photo or Film, So it was a joke
in english as well ;) @@olgab7353
I like this guy. He seems more concerned with getting the story than his own welfare. Walking around like he owns the place when people are obviously not impressed by his presence. I would be shitting myself.
Dont be afraid of them. The simon look to nice thats why they are so aggersive. If he would take some chechen kadyrov fullbearded guys as filmcrew they would have behaved differently :D Russian mentality.
He looked like a bit of a clown with the helmet and flak vest on, but otherwise good reporting.
Simon delivers the most cutting edge coverage of the conflict in the entire media, West or Russian. Hardcore frontline reporting. Priceless history captured.
***** Him knowing Russian is a priceless advantage for a Western journalist.
He’s trying to provoke them to push an agenda. Former soviets know all about these kinds of tricks.
its funny how vice is called biased by some
this is the most unprejudiced coverage of the conflict i have seen.
basically they go to everyone and talk to them.
no matter if russian, no matter if ukrainian, no matter if military, no matter if civilian, no matter if muslim, no matter if angry, no matter if sad...
they just talk to the people and let them talk.
and the rest you see for yourselves. some people prefer to talk, other's dont.
that's valuable insight you dont even have to put emphasis on as a reporter.
just let the images and people speak for themselves.
A+++
Ive been wondering about that myself. I can't even tell what Simon would rather see. Like I cant tell which side he is on. Doesnt seem to be pushing one way or the other. Just how reporting should be.
Ramrod Rymensnyder for me I was able to tell he’s is pro Ukraine he’s seens to be more provacitice when he’s talking to Russians
@@brucenicc4698 well in the last few videos the russians did threathen to shoot him and his camera man
originsnoire 12 I’m not saying it’s no unjustified I’m just saying there seems to be a slight bias
@@brucenicc4698 yeah it's almost impossible to have no bias at all but he still did a very good job
8:23 I loved it when Simon went to put his helmet on and came back after the dude on the balcony said he was going to throw bricks at him
"Twelve megapixels, bitch!"
I'm laughing so fucking hard at that. XD
They go around blasting their American 80s rock that they just got last week.
cris lamont +100
Вы настоящий репортер . Вы передаете взгляд на происходящее со всех сторон. Уважаю когда говорят правду.
A reporter should always be impartial and unbiased. I can agree with you that Simon is an honest professional
This is why hes unemployed. Nobody need to know "enemy's" perspective.
I have to say this series has been fantastic. Very well put together,great job
Poor reporter trying to dirty Russia. Crimea has been the territory of Russia since 1783. The "civilized West" have no idea that the Crimea became part of Ukraine thanks to the administrative intervention of the Ukrainians N.With. Khrushchev in the role of boss of the USSR in 1954 - and it was against the will of the population of Crimea. Crimea would be Ukrainian even today, but after an illegal coup with Western financial assistance began persecution of Russians throughout Ukraine - and Crimea is predominantly Russian. Crimea had the status of an autonomous republic with its own parliament, and therefore, according to the UN Charter - the right of nations to self-determination, par. 1, paragraph.2 had the right to a referendum. What is more power than the opinion of the nation ? The vast majority of residents expressed themselves in favor of returning to the assembly of the Russian Federation. The precedent was Kosovo's secession from Serbia due to NATO bombing.
"Here, take a picture of this, twelve megapixles, bitch!"
AHAHAHA fucking instant classic!
This guy has gone through so much! RESPECT. THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO
his name is @SimonOstrovsky He seems so low key and never gets loud or violent, yet people still find reason to attack him. Poor guy.
Only VICE seems to present things as they are… Thanks VICE! ;-)
Yes of course only vice, more CNN BBC EURONEWS France24 and all other Western Channels shows one too, and where is the freedom of the media in America where all show one-sided. Who wants to go see the real picture of RT and ATP
Ruslan Rus RT is really biased and interpreted news… They don't go on the terrain and ask both sides their opinion! They simply say what they want us to think and rarely show proofs, exclusively when it correlates with what they want us to see!
VICE goes on the terrain and show us what they see as it actually happen… They can't really interpret the data for us, since they show themselves as they explore and ask questions! No other news does this…
RT simply shows us an arrogant anchor criticizing anything "not-pro-Russian" with selective on-terrain footages… This is a very unreliable news channel, unlike VICE…
@@MidgardTV1331 it seems everyone is right about what they're "right about" huh..
If that guy is mad now, wait until he has to stand in line for six hours for a loaf of bread.
LMAO
Russians must be very proud of themselves right now.
Why Not i Mean they got hole crimea back And their very Important Port is Safe
EU stands with the Ukrianian people, Greetings from Austria. SLAVA UKRAINIA!
Dietrich Bauer I do agree with you. But I do not feel to stand with the current illegitimate Ukrainian governement.
Ukraine needs to go to elections.
ReaPaZz 〈3 They force all the people who life there to life under the opression of putin. Certainly not a thing to be proud of. Western opression is a little better imo.
Enrico Polanski I don't particularly like the new government either but what Russia is doing is wrong and is destabilizing Europe, history is shown that when you appease mad men, they keep going, and I refuse to allow Europe to descend into that again, so I stand with Ukraine.
"welcome to russia" indeed ...
Props to that father in law. That's a brave man.
"Americans are here/.../"
"Oh shit, they're filming us"
*Takes a hike*
I don't understand nothing. People look drunk, non educated,...yelling..Welcome to Russia?
not long ago they were ukrainians, soooo.....
LOL Russians
"You Prevaricator!"
"You Nazi!"
Films a situation and not say a thing
"Why you filming, to show your lies!"
LOL so filming something is showing lies? Sorry I'm lost, can someone explain this logic?
One common theme that I notice is the fact that they openly embrace oppression of the press and any free ideas. No wonder they plunged into dictatorship for so long.
I will try.Those people have watched enough biased,lying reports from western journalists, thats why they so aggressive toward them.And if they, ppl who actually live there, decided that western journalists lie it is non of my or your business to condemn them.
dfdfddfdfdfdfddfd
Try better. It`s your work after all, make some effort.
These people havent watched a single western journalist report. But yes, they have seen enough biased and lying "news" from russian media. So now in their upside world they call truth - a lie.
"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength."
@@nestormachvo The Russian troll did try and did fall short of his argument like how communism fall short to deliver bread.
yes because clearly the media would never skew and edit news footage to suit their agenda. ESPECIALLY not in a "civilized" western nation, no sir that never happens. and the man was clearly under a lot of stress considering he's IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING WAR. you ever been in a war? then stfu. this kind of silly western naivete is EXACTLY why slavs want the west out of their business. Lyudmila Pavlichencko was a proud Ukrainian woman that fought for her nation, suffered wounds, and killed 257 FUCKING NAZI SOLDIERS and first think fat dumb westerners think to ask her is why her dress makes her look fat. just about says all you need to know.
Сенсанции не вышло, Симон решил снимать местных алкоголиков. Успех.
Да вот именно, что он снимал типичных любителей "руцкого мира!"
@@morland8633 да, только ещё позавчера (ну на то время будем говорить) это были громодяне нЭньки!, сказали бы про своих крiмчан что они любители "руцкого" мира?
So many of these civilians and soldiers won't be alive anymore.but this brave journalist is still alive after eight long years of war and bloodshed.
it is very clear that Russians are civil and very kind to the press (sarcasm)...
@@Avalanchea_
But it's not about them they are the ones who came in not vise versa so they will get what they deserve
*"TWELVE FKIN MEGAPIXELS BTCH"*
Media is misleading and biased so its understandable.
That's how Russians deal with a free press
@@tsarnicolasii1228 I loved that one
I would have said to that guy: ''Pictures don't lie!''
Some do (._.)
Photoshop
Ahaha, we are not talking about selfies here.
This guy Simon and the film crew have some BIG balls
Why there are Russians in Crimea-
...the Crimean Tatars. Russia conquered the Crimean Tatar khanate in 1783. Afterward, the Russian authorities forced the Tatars out of their ancestral homeland and replaced them with settlers from Russia.
Tens of thousands of Tatars died or were killed; some two-thirds had to leave the Crimea. In 1944, the ethnic cleansing was completed when Stalin expelled the entire Crimean Tatar population -- about 200,000 people -- to Uzbekistan and some other Soviet regions. About half died on the way. It was only in the late 1980s that they began returning to their homeland to find that their land and their homes had been occupied by Russian settlers.
And what of the Crimean Tatars? Here's Putin: "True, there was a time when Crimean Tatars were treated unfairly, just as a number of other peoples in the USSR. There is only one thing I can say here: Millions of people of various ethnicities suffered during those repressions, and primarily Russians."
The mendacity is astounding. The Crimean Tatars were not just "treated unfairly" by some vague force. They were subjected to genocide by a Russian totalitarian empire. Russians also "suffered," but the brunt of the suffering fell, as Yale historian Timothy Snyder describes in "Bloodlands," on Poles and Ukrainians....
-Alexander J. Motyl . Professor, Rutgers University.
Exactly it was Crimea Tatars land long it ever was Russia's. But majority of Russians can only date back to the time it was there land which was taken by force in WW2. As you mentioned most Crimean Tatars where either slaughtered or fled to Turkey and Romania.
It wasn't Russia's land before WW2 and its not there land now. Putin take your people not your land !
So the USA didn't do the same for natives?
Vasili Curd Why do people always have to say "well so and so did it too". That is childish.
In posting that, I just wanted people to know that the Crimea has not historically been Russian, as people have been saying/
Vasili Curd Have good points, USA and natives, list can go on and on. But do we live now currently where most powerful can take and claim all. Seriously then lets go claim the world .. hmm I don't think so. I thought we try to avoid war not just take over when you see fit anymore. If someone asks you for your house do you let them take it ? Or you say oh yes that's right you owned it in the past here you can have it. If mistakes where made doesn't mean that we should keep making them.
Yeah, I am pretty sure the North American continent back in those times was not all-European either.
What exactly were Americans doing to natives back in 1783?
RIP to the Tartar man and Ukrainian soldier. I hate to see young people die. What a shame. One beaten to death and the other shot by sniper fire. The elitists are loving this. So sad.
the Tatar was a jihadist terrorist and troublemaker who was neutralized. dont shed a tear for this filth. the other one i dont know....
that tatar men just expressing his opinion.. yet being killed by those 'holy folks'
@@crowsboy92 Ukrainian and Tatar activists have killed 2 persons on Feb 26 before Russians began to do anything.
Syria Rule Of Law Mission where did you find that info
@@brucenicc4698 he's a toxic russian national fascist
Great work simon. Standing up to the guys while the other journalist walk away. Even if there are so many paranoid haters in the comments - i really think you truely try to picture the situation as you experience it. I percieve you as journalist with real integrety and huge balls. :-) stay safe
What the fuck is up with all this hostility towards the press? Geez.... what a way to look and sound legitimate.
Vice news is the only one that truthfully covers these subjects and doesnt get scared away by resistence from russian extremists
Экстремисты это вы твари американские мрази
I've been watching 'Russian Roulette' since the first episode.
I have felt many emotions in watching the events unfold in Ukraine but I am now at the point where I don't know what to feel.
I think I just feel a little helpless in place of everyone living in this country (Russian, Ukrainian alike).
They are so involved that they have no prospective on the situation. :/
I’ve got a morning wood for Simon he drives guys like me crazy I bet lots of boys watching get stiff in their pants or even spunkhen our of their schwanson and spritzen on keyboard....
Yes, I felt same way back then, being from Ukraine.
Now I am much more defined in my opinions of what is going on.
What is your opinion as a Ukrainian watching this?
Quite tragic if there was a war. This could quickly get out of hand and not just Ukrainians and Russians will fight, but Brits, and my fellow Americans. If that happens hate on the politicians on both sides drawing us into WWIII.
Yeah, it would be pretty fucking tragic, considering the fight will most likely happen in the buffer zones where i fucking live.
Price of freedom and liberty sometimes is high and some people will never understand it. Ukraine and Crimea is now a good example what will happen if a country and its people are not willing to have a meaninfull battle what is rightfully theirs. This "conflict" is a good example of submission in front of a superior force and how it's expected that the problem is solved by some one else without any own actions. This is a good wake-up call for many of EU countries and countries outside of EU.
opmdevil Well, that may or may not be true. Depend on how legitimate their vote was to join Russia. If it was legit then just let them be. If not then it's a tragedy.
Dude these are the first steps toward a ww3 . The sanctions taken against both sides will increase hate and decrease economy of both sides . Turkey already announced that it will stop any Russian ship in Bosphorus , which is clearly going to piss off Putin
Shrap Nelface Whatever the situation was legit or not, this is a precedent what will happen is one country doesn't have effective defence. It's a lesson for those who are watching. Should we let this be? No.
I hope all the pro-Russians who broke laws during the protests are put in jail... Especially whoever murdered that innocent Tatar.
Those are state empowered cossack militias. Everything they do is considered right.
Yes, I'm an ethnic Russian and I agree that the killers of the Tatar protester should face justice. Alas that is unlikely to happen. But to put this in perspective the Russian annexation of Crimea has thus far resulted in two casualties. The US drone strikes in Pakistan - "There is a debate regarding the number of civilian and militant casualties. An estimated 286 to 890 civilians have been killed, including 168 to 197 children" Wikipedia... I'm waiting for sanctions and asset freezes... seems like a serious violation of sovereignty for a flying robot of a foreign country to kill over 150 children while targeting terrorists.
Ivan Nikolayev "Pakistan's Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif, has repeatedly demanded an end to the strikes, stating: "The use of drones is not only a continual violation of our territorial integrity but also detrimental to our resolve and efforts at eliminating terrorism from our country".[11] The Peshawar High Court has ruled that the attacks are illegal, inhumane, violate the UN charter on human rights and constitute a war crime.[12] The Obama administration disagrees, contending that the attacks do not violate international law and that the method of attack is precise and effective.[11]"
Ivan Nikolayev I'm Ukrainian, and it's not about US, it's about Ukraine. Go and fight with US, not with us.
Pavlo Kolomiets I have no desire to fight with anyone and it doesn't look like there is that much fighting going on in Crimea. As for fighting America, I live in Ohio, I guess I can run into the woods and wage a one-man partisan battle but I don't really think that's in the cards for me.
Good luck to you, Simon. Very fine reporting.
Vice. Thank you for your journalism. Few are willing to speak. You are. Thank you.
Vice are where nobody else want to go.
Keep up the good work (y)
Amazing journalism, so immersive. It is the clearest picture of the whole situation in Crimea. Keep the news coming.
Thank you Vice! It's unbelievable that every day you are there where something is happening. Great journalism guys!
Why is the Russian side always so aggressive? Jeez
He is simply war-mongering.
I have been praying for these guys every night. They seem to be the only real journalists that care about the truth. It is tough to see what is going on over there. I applaud you Vice.
Not vice so much just him and cameraman, 7 year old post,., welcome to 2022,. Did u expect this now?
Its so strange to look at this documentaries 8 years later.
Add victoria nulands infamous voice recording and all the docs and MSM coverages over the years. Spinning the narrative now!
Yes, everyone here needs to calm their tits. It's supremely important to understand subtleties of this Crimean situation. It's been sort of neither here nor there for decades now, if not centuries. You can read up on the history of Crimea on your own. The important thing to realize is that it's been an autonomous republic during the modern history. Before that, it had been conquered by pretty much everyone in the ancient Europe. More recently it was populated by Tatars. The very name Crimea is from Qırım, Turkish for steppe and/or hills. When Soviets came into play in the 1920's, the Ukrainian Republic did not include Crimea. Crimea was "gifted" to Ukraine in 1954 by then secretary of Communist Party Nikita Khrushchev. coincidentally Nikita Khrushchev was born near the border with Ukrainian Republic, then grew up in Ukraine. He was the first top Communist who was pretty liberal and he began talking about Stalin's campaign of terror. In any case, Crimea was historically a self governed, autonomous province. Being someone from the region, I can tell you from my first hand account and experiences that the matter of Crimea changing hands again was just a matter of time. Now, my allegiances are with Ukraine and Ukrainian people. I am involved in the Ukrainian struggle for newly found freedom and I am against Putin and his neocolonial, neo-fascist tactics. That being said, I believe what happened with Crimea was pretty much predetermined and to a degree inevitable. Because the native Tatars were displaced by Stalin, Ukraine was populated by Russian speaking people, mostly. As such, it is a Russian-centric autonomy. Putin and his FSB (former KGB) apparatus had been influencing things in Ukraine for 2 decades now. Putin has spies and people working for him in many places in Ukraine, including Kiev (the capital). This is precisely how Yanukovich, the recently deposed President had come to power. His inauguration was the culmination of years of undercover work by Putin and his agents.
Maidan revolution changed all of that, completely messed up Putin's plans to continue dominating Ukraine and its people. I consider Ukrainians lucky that they were able to fight back and prevail. As you may know, over a hundred people died in that fight. Right now, the new government of Ukraine is weak. There are still agents of Russian influence in Verhovna Rada (Ukrainian Parliament), people who continue carrying out Putin's agenda. Ukraine is just not ready or able to fight for Crimea, nor should it pursue that fight. Setting the legality of Crimean "referendum", conducted under barrel of Putin's gun aside, it is totally feasible that most of the Russian ethnic people in Crimea may hold allegiances to Russia. Besides, they have always been autonomous so they are certainly entitled to make the epic mistake. Crimean people need to realize that was the last such "referendum" allowed to them, as in Putin's Russia there are no such freedoms for its subjects.
Trying to engage Putin's army militarily would only provoke Russians further and would give them an excuse to continue attacking and perhaps take all of Ukraine. Also, Putin's propaganda would frame the war as being initiated by Ukraine, and "Bandera stormtroopers", and probably NATO and America. I also get sick to my stomach thinking about innocent lives lost and blood spilled. It would be nothing short of American Civil War where brothers and neighbors were at each other's throats. That turn of events would be detrimental to Ukraine, and positive for Russia as an excuse for further military campaign. Besides, as many had already pointed out, the Crimea may be gone for now, but who says it won't come back at some time in the future? Like a slutty ex-girlfriend who leaves you at the first sign of trouble or a lost job, these types of people are usually unhappy anywhere they go.
So my fellow Ukrainians, хлопці, those in Europe, America and elsewhere in the world who stand in solidarity with our fight for freedoms, don't spill any tears for Crimea. Crimea is not worth crying over. Let's focus our efforts on building new Ukraine, free and open to all. Free of Putin's influences. Please believe me, free Ukrainian people and the banner of freedom on the border with Russia will scare Putin and his junta more than any ballistic missile would. Let's serve as positive example to all people, including Russians. Afterall, our people stood together and have made it through the thin and thick, let's not allow Putin drive a wedge between us. I hope one day Russia will too gain its independence and will stand tall, as open and free society.
***** The Ukrainians have been wise not to give Herr Putin the excuse he so desperately wants to go further than he already has. That he and he alone provoked this situation is clear to any unbiased person. I personally found it telling that the state security forces of Yanukovych, the Berkut who are considered complicit in the murder of unarmed civilians in Kiev are now intimidating and assaulting all who stand in their way in Crimea. That these blue-uniformed and balaclava-wearing thugs are now being treated as heroes by the ethnic Russians speaks volumes. Military intervention by the West is out of the question as it could lead to WW3. That said, a strong response is needed or Herr Putin will feel he can get away with anything. The European nations appeased Hitler, and look where that led. I wish you and your country well in the face of this unprovoked aggression.
Проебал ты Руину, "хлопец". Писать "референдум" в кавычках это так "демократично".
do not forget that all of Crimea's power and water comes from mainland Ukraine whats stopping them from just cutting it off?
also here's an interesting way to think about it, now that Crimea's out of the way the Ukraine will have no issues joining NATO, then Russia wouldn't dare touch it.
Cimea river, Ukrainian Euromaidan loser.
@@dogstar234 "do not forget that all of Crimea's power and water comes from mainland Ukraine whats stopping them from just cutting it off?"
It's interesting reading this back 8 years later with more of the story having unfolded. You made a VERY GOOD point here. That's exactly what Ukraine did, and that's one of the main goals of the start of the Russian invasion this year :). The other guys also made good points above.
Another stunning report from Crimea by Simon Ostrovsky and his Vice team. Keep going.
Ostrovsky has made it abundantly clear which side he is on in this conflict, and that's why the people want nothing to do with him. As they made it clear that he is just another US journalist who will spin every situation to make the Ukranians side out to be good and the Russian side to be bad.
Just like to thank Simon and his crew for been on the ground sharing with the world what's happening in Ukraine
that poor man that was beaten
thnx for whole series
Vultures is a great analogy for the press.
Great job guys... cheers from Brazil!
Catch 22. Wow. Simon, that was awesome!
I can relate to him at 6:17 when someone says "Americans are here." Simon heard it, he turned around, but chose to ignore it. Dealt with that when I lived in st petersburg. People thinking you don't understand what they're saying. Sometimes funny.
Putting on that press vest probably made him more of a target. Nothing says american like the latin alphabet.
Well Anericans are biased . So they're right .
Simon thank you for this! best report ever!
Poor reporter trying to dirty Russia. Crimea has been the territory of Russia since 1783. The "civilized West" have no idea that the Crimea became part of Ukraine thanks to the administrative intervention of the Ukrainians N.With. Khrushchev in the role of boss of the USSR in 1954 - and it was against the will of the population of Crimea. Crimea would be Ukrainian even today, but after an illegal coup with Western financial assistance began persecution of Russians throughout Ukraine - and Crimea is predominantly Russian. Crimea had the status of an autonomous republic with its own parliament, and therefore, according to the UN Charter - the right of nations to self-determination, par. 1, paragraph.2 had the right to a referendum. What is more power than the opinion of the nation ? The vast majority of residents expressed themselves in favor of returning to the assembly of the Russian Federation. The precedent was Kosovo's secession from Serbia due to NATO bombing.
Nice coverage of the situation in Crimea!!! Great Job!!!
I agree, good stuff, I suggest following @SimonOstrovsky on Twitter too
Thank you for these and everything you produce, it'd be a dream to be a part of this network. Awesome, just awesome.
“We’ll see what actually happens”
Such foreshadowing
Jesus these guys (Russians) really know how to produce a good PR image.
I've enjoyed this series. It has been an educational eye opening look at the people on the ground there is this volatile region. What's really distressing to me is the way these journalists are trying to make it seem like most of the citizens are anti Russian. Why cant they put the story out without a sensationalist spin? These people for the most part are pro Russian and cant stand the way the media in the West is never portraying it properly. And on another note, why does it matter so much to us if these people want closer ties to Russia? Russia is a regional power with a significant amount of influence, and these people probably feel very anxious about the way their country has been peddled to the highest bidding crooks and sold out to some sort of NATO ploy to continue its isolation of Russia. NEWSFLASH- the citizens of the world cannot be manipulated by simple propaganda as effectively as we once were. People are waking up. We cant just hate on Russia because they are semi-pseudo Democratic/communist. Who cares how they choose to run their nation? I don't hate on Russia because they don't espouse the same values in government as we do. We are a different type of people, but we are all human. The united states and specifically NATO have been involved in numerous conflicts. For NATO (who say they are for the promotion of peace) to be involved in these acts despite the fact that its member states have never been attacked by another nation ever in history is astounding. This is slanted journalist. A few of these "dispatches" back, Simon was showing the Navy and how scary it must've been for them being blockaded and all the Russian propaganda. Now, two American warships are in the black sea right now as we speak and in violation of the Montreux convention governing the use of the straights to non Black sea members. Say fuck it to international law and the media doesn't breathe a word. But when the Russians fly a jet by these warships the press have a field day talking about Russian provocations. Its a tragedy that this Simon guy hasn't changed his opinion even after all the people he encounters except for a small group here and there are anti-west. The United States and her allies are hypocritical shit disturbers and I live in the western world. I think the people who believe the story coming out of the Western news outlets are the minority when it comes to the global views of the people (not the leaders)
Dude, it's very simple: When a nation uses superior military force to annex another sovereign nation, you call them out on it. Doesn't matter if it's Russia, China, EU, NATO, CSTO or the fucking Molotov-Ribbentrop pact pulling some shit - it's not a very polite thing to do. Today, it happens to be Russia pulling some shit. If Crimea wants to secede, fine, but do so in an orderly fashion and not at a record-setting pace with black ops Spetsnaz milling about. How do you know they're pro-russia "for the most part"? NOBODY KNOWS SHIT - IT'S A WAR ZONE. If the will of the people is was damn important, dudes with guns would back off and maybe they'd have a vote 4 years from now. Then they could join the Federation of the Moon for all I care, but that's not how it's gone down, is it?
Metamusik dude, you have no idea what your talking about. This is hardly Spetznas. And, I know they are pro-Russian, because thats what they literally are. The citizens there have basically boycotted giving interviews to western media because they always turn around and paint a very different picture......thats why you always see them saying no cameras in these videos. Anyway, you could probably use some persepective, so here you go.
Russian forces have been allowed in the Crimean Peninsula for years now. This type of historically accurate fact for some reason gets whitewashed or removed as spam rather then for you to hear them and possibly change your world-view. Its called propaganda. Propaganda has been at play since the first civilizations came into being on the planet Earth. Rulers long ago decided it was a more than wise idea to get the majority of the populace behind them in regards to any political or militaristic move they were intent on making, because if the people believed it was their own "will" then the aspirations and wishes of those in power would have a much easier time pushing their individual objectives and agendas through (however nefarious they were or were not)
Russia is legally allowed (under internationally recognized agreements signed between the Russian Federation and the nation of Ukraine)Under the terms of this agreement, Russia is entitled to have 25,000 troops on the peninsula and currently has an estimated 16,000 deployed there. Why the Western worlds media spins this mutually accepted agreement into an "invasion" on the part of Russia, is not only a direct insult to our intelligence, but also a bold faced lie.
Here are some other illuminating facts you might not have known about which I am sure will be marked as spam and removed. Read quickly then, before your lied to from somewhere else and get convinced this is something its not.
This is all information that any one of you could find on-line if you were inclined to look for yourselves instead of listening to those ridiculous media parrots squawking about this or that. All of the "breaking news" they say is fresh off the press
Read em quickly, because this wont be up long, and if it is, its because I just said that"
anyway
In 1997, amid the wreckage of the USSR, Russia & Ukraine signed a Partition Treaty determining the fate of the military bases and vessels in Crimea. The deal sparked widespread officer ‘defections’ to Russia and was ratified by the Russian & Ukrainian parliaments in 1999. Russia received 81.7 percent of the fleet’s ships after paying the Ukrainian government US$526.5 million.
The deal allowed the Russian Black Sea Fleet to stay in Crimea until 2017. This was extended by another 25 years to 2042 with a 5-year extension option in 2010.
Moscow annually writes off $97.75 million of Kiev’s debt for the right to use Ukrainian waters and radio frequencies, and to compensate for the Black Sea Fleet’s environmental impact.
The Russian navy is allowed up to
- 25,000 troops,
- 24 artillery systems with a calibre smaller than 100 mm,
- 132 armoured vehicles, and
- 22 military planes, on Crimean territory.
Five Russian naval units are stationed in the port city of Sevastopol, in compliance with the treaty:
- The 30th Surface Ship Division formed by the 11th Antisubmarine Ship Brigade. Comprises the Black Sea Fleet’s flagship guard missile cruiser Moskva as well as Kerch, Ochakov, Smetlivy, Ladny, and Pytlivy vessels, and the 197th Landing Ship Brigade, consisting of seven large amphibious vessels;
- The 41st Missile Boat Brigade includes the 166th Fast Attack Craft Division, consisting of Bora and Samum hovercrafts as well as small missile ships Mirazh and Shtil, and 295th missile Boat Division;
- The 247th Separate Submarine Division, consisting of two diesel submarines - B-871 Alrosa and B-380 Svyatoy Knyaz Georgy;
- The 68th Harbor Defense Ship Brigade formed by 4 vessels of the 400th Antisubmarine Ship Battalion and 418 Mine Hunting Ship Division respectively.;
- The 422nd Separate Hydrographic Ship Division boasts the Cheleken, Stvor, Donuzlav and GS-402 survey vessels and hydrographic boats.
Russia has two airbases in Crimea, in Kacha and Gvardeysky.
Russian coastal forces in Ukraine consist of the 1096th Separate Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment in Sevastopol and the 810th Marine Brigade, which hosts around 2,000 marines.
Russian naval units are permitted to implement security measures at their permanent post as well as during re-deployments in cooperation with Ukrainian forces, in accordance with Russia’s armed forces procedures.
Authorities in the Ukrainian Autonomous Republic of Crimea - where over half the population is Russian - requested Moscow’s assistance after the self-proclaimed government in Kiev introduced a law abolishing the use of languages other than Ukrainian in official circumstances.
Last week, Russia’s Federation Council unanimously approved President Vladimir Putin’s request to send the country’s military forces to Ukraine to ensure peace and order in the region “until the socio-political situation in the country is stabilized.”
However, the final say about deploying troops lies with Putin, who hasn't yet made such a decision, stressing that deploying military force would be a last resort.
Yes, well done with that copypasta. But here's the thing: They're allowed 25.000 troops wearing UNIFORM and identifying themselves as Russian Federation troops. So where's the cute little flags on the shoulder? They're certainly not allowed to camp out at Ukrainian installations wearing mystery kit, disarming people in actual uniforms. Or do you seriously believe that the green men are just local militia, that just happen to be highly equipped and disciplined, after all that preaching about propaganda?
"The citizens" you speak off are a handful of drunks and fanatics that mill around cameramen. The actual opinions of the population are obscure. If I was a pro-Ukrainian living in Crimea, I'd stfu about it right now, because heavily armed men might take offence. I certainly wouldn't run out to the press and tell my life story when people are vanishing in the night and my neighbour keeps ranting on about "provocateurs" and masonic conspiracies.
who cares who the green men are? they wouldn't even be there if this isolation of Russia game being played by NATO since 1990 hadn't involved the installation of a puppet government in Kiev (who just happen to have some pretty radical views on dealing with all the Jews and Muscovites in Ukraine)
This is turning into a proxy war between the US and Russia because the US do not want to lose their new found influence (pro EU pro NATO pro US policy) in the area to a grass-roots movement being conducted by the Russian speaking citizens in Eastern Ukraine.
You think people are disappearing in the night by the truckload and being killed by KGB spies? LOL If so, Your incorrect. Do you believe some nefarious plot aimed at world conquest is being orchestrated by the evil doers in Moscow? Scared that communism might spread? The fact that you think this is just a handful of drunks is 1000% ludicrous. You also believe that the views and wishes of the Russian speaking citizens in the East of Ukraine are "obscure" and that's the point right there where I realized you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about to begin with. What they want and what they are upset about is clear. Your just led into believing it isn't. That is *Exactly* why i "preached" about propaganda.
Pro-Kiev forces are burning them alive during the day. How many was it? 36 dead? and when they tried to escape the flames they were shot dead by supporters of the illegitimate Kiev puppet government.
Hows that for democracy hard at work. This puppet government is not backed by the majority of the population in the East, where citizens of Ukraine(Russian speaking and other Slavic people also) are not contend to sell out their country to NATO and the EU and would rather maintain ties with Russia.
Of course being the retarded petulant child you are, and having no actual life experiences involving the subject matter, your opinion is not only outrageously wrong, but also so in line with the "official" story being told you'd think you could look some of this up on your own instead of being some sort of media turd parrot and saying things like the people of Crimea had to vote because Putin put a gun to their head, or Putin plans to invade Ukraine and then maybe us. Russian communist scum want to eat all our first born sons. They want to turn America into a socialist republic. etc. etc.
The fact of the matter is, and I also know in reference to my family, personally, they see Mr. Putin as a modern day Russian hero now who has brought the once proud Russian people back together and a man who has attempted to unite us (Russians all over the globe) together while bringing us to the forefront of the world stage and also as a man who has handled the situation in Crimea with a deft and steady hand while brushing off the threatening isolating behaviour of the imperialistic American Empire.
There was talk of Visa and Mastercard being part of the sanctions until those companies shit themselves when the Russian Federation announced their own national banking cards would be released to counter this proposal and Visa and Mastercard would lose boatloads
Sanctions are an act of war
The US sanctions in Iraq after desert storm killed half a million children yet we barely bat an eyelash. In Korea, sanctions have also killed million of already poor and starving people, yet we all resist the urge to look at them while they die. Their eyes would haunt us forever if we did, s we keep our heads buried in the sand because we are told everything will be all right.
You are seriously off of the truth by about billion miles, but you wouldn't know that would you?
You think its just a few drunk Russians and a hand full of fanatics trying to create a problem in an area where the people just want to be left alone and have absolute faith in their new leaders. This is a catastrophic error in judgement and is the *One and Only* reason why in these dispatches we always hear the pro Russian "militants" ask the cameras to be turned off, and that's because they understand that the news media is spinning this story to the western viewers and painting a wholly inaccurate picture. I am Ukrainian. Although I live in Canada now I still have relatives over there who live in Luhansk and Kharkiv. Im pretty sure I have a pretty unique perspective on this. A little more than you might
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yeah. Must be those masonic conspiracies you speak of. Do you really think this has anything to do with Masons or illuminati or 9-11 or anything like that dip-shit? Its fucktards like you that think everyone else has on a tinfoil hat and in the process conveniently forgets to check what kind of hat your wearing.
This has nothing to do with any of that you god damn genius.
And while we are at it, pick up a fucking book every now and then. Stick to subjects where you have more than just a passing interest in. However, if you wish to argue I can educate you
Wow, that was a really impressive rant. Lucky for me someone +1 a comment so I came back to read it. Funny how recent events illustrates my point quite well: When Kiev forces retake separatist areas, everyone cheers, at least to the cameras. It's a very basic point of survival: Cheer the guys holding the guns. Until the guns go away, everything is speculation. Another thing that's funny is how you seem to assume that personal and emotional ties makes you less biased. I'm arguing ignorance - You're arguing perfect, statistical knowledge based on having a handful of relatives with very definite views. That's probably the centrepiece in this amusing farce of a discussion. You should try reading a book about epistemology, it would do you good.
Thank you, you're doing amazing job!
Halfway through this video turned into the Crimean version of COPS.
did VICE accidentally upload 15th dispatch first instead of the 14th?
Here in 2023 to learn history of conflict
PIZDABOL
This is Emmy winning material Simon and Vice are putting out. If there are Emmy's for the internet.
Don't film! *Starts filming*
You have a great mistake at 0:17
Fix it to:
SIMFEROPOL, Crimea, Russia
You being born is the great mistake here.
***** act your age
Simon is back and doing what he do best! Great reporting!
The best news channel about Crimean situation! Looks like independent. Thank you, you are doing great job!
Simon, If you don't win the Pulitzer for this series, you should at least win the Putinzer. Stay safe & keep up the great work.
Despite how serious the situation is... Now, every time I hear the word provocateur, I can't help but laugh. It's like when you say a word over and over to yourself, and then you begin to forget the actual meaning of the word because it becomes just another weird sound(lol).
pretty much every russian on this clip appeared drunk and angry, which is very expected. Not a very happy place I must say :-)
1. Who said they are russians? And how can you see the difference between russians and ukrainians? I am russian, and i know there is no difference. Some are angry, some drunk, some nazis, etc. in every country and place. I'll bring you an example. I am russian, 32 years old. I never drink alcohol (never and nothing). I hit a man just once in my life, to protect myself. Why Vice do not show people like me? Maybe I am the only one? The Perfect.. and other 150 millions are angry and drunk. Why he is still alive working in Crimea? And why it is so dangerous to work in Kiev if you like something russian?
2. Not a very happy place.. yeap.. when it was Ukraine it was totaly different. Now Putin said "Crimea is Russia!" and rivers become blood, people become drunk russians, and everyone found a granade in his pocket and become angry...
Please, guys, think and analyse what you see and hear. I know much great europeans, americans, russians and ukrainians. Please, distinguish propoganda with real things. Thank you.
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Maybe its the plan of the authors to let all pro-russian-krimeans look like alcoholics and idiots?
@@alexanderlunev9215 Would you watch a video of normal people doing normal things? No. Vice is videoing the drama that's happening in Crimea
Great coverage, Simon. Stay safe guys,
I cannot thank you guys enoigh for what you are doing. Russia crossed the line the day they invaded Ukrain, what more can they want.
Косит под непредвзятого репортера, полупокер. На все провокации с трупами успел попасть. Желаю Симону творческих успехов в дальнейших съемках картины. Надеюсь увертюра будет с его собственными похоронами. Гниль журналистская.
Бедный репортер, пытающийся осыпать грязью Россию. Крым был территорией России с 1783 года. "Цивилизованный Запад" не имеет представления, что Крым стал частью Украины благодаря administrativnímu вмешательства Украинца Хрущева в роли главы СССР в 1954 году . Это было против воли жителей Крыма. Крым был бы украинский и сегодня, но после незаконного государственного переворота с западной финансовой помощи началось преследование Русских по всей Украине и особенно в Крыму. Крым получил статус Автономной Республики с собственным парламентом,и поэтому, согласно Уставу ООН, он имел право на самоопределение народов, параграф 1, параграф.2 было правильно провести референдум. Какая сила и право больше, чем мнение нации ? Большая часть населения высказалась на референдуме после возвращения на заседание Российской Федерации. Прецедентом было разделение Косово от Сербии после бомбардировок войск США и НАТО. Я из Чехии.
какие прекрасные, вежливые люди в форме
really impartial vice.... well done
To be fair, you must get annoyed at having cameras on you constantly and literally in your face. Especially if it's something personal like a family member having being shot.
They'll definitely blow it out of proportion. Simon wearing armor sure took care of that. Shear sensationalism followed up with few actual facts.
Prleish sensationalism still beats censorship , and yeah nowadays a 'good internet user ' should check multiple sources , some more sensational and down to earth like this one , and some more geopolitical like moscowtimes or BBC - and then you can form a pretty accurate view I guess
Maaster Mined Couldn't agree more.
They're too ashamed to be filmed. Evil doesn't want the Light of the truth !
They KNOW it's all wrong, and don't want it spread by the press.
pretty much
@@Azotrac Brainwashing alive and well in the Crimea.
Hope the dogs are okay.
I'm actually some what nervous for you and your film crews safety Simon, please keep yourself safe from harm!
'twelve megapixels, bitch. here you go' I like that.
Definition of Ironic Rhetoric: intentionally provoking someone by calling them a "provocateur."
as PRESS you should not take side...
VICE News thx for your reports, and take care guys
This video is all about speculations...''He might have been shot'' or ''Someone's dead but we don't know its the good guy''...Real journalism..!!! Upload the video without commentary, it would be less biased...!!!
be careful Simon, Crimea is a small place and they all seem to know who you are and what country you're from and by the looks of things the Militant groups dont do things in a diplomatic fashion.
Simon is doing dangerous eye opening and monumental work, we have never had such investigative journalism in the middle of a military crisis like this, whatever his agenda may be, its the video that makes the difference and the worst aspects of a society can be determined by the publics willingness to allow to happen, and 13 chapters of russian roulette have proved this easily.
@@itsolivier Poor reporter trying to dirty Russia. Crimea has been the territory of Russia since 1783. The "civilized West" have no idea that the Crimea became part of Ukraine thanks to the administrative intervention of the Ukrainians N.With. Khrushchev in the role of boss of the USSR in 1954 - and it was against the will of the population of Crimea. Crimea would be Ukrainian even today, but after an illegal coup with Western financial assistance began persecution of Russians throughout Ukraine - and Crimea is predominantly Russian. Crimea had the status of an autonomous republic with its own parliament, and therefore, according to the UN Charter - the right of nations to self-determination, par. 1, paragraph.2 had the right to a referendum. What is more power than the opinion of the nation ? The vast majority of residents expressed themselves in favor of returning to the assembly of the Russian Federation. The precedent was Kosovo's secession from Serbia due to NATO bombing.
These Vice guys have some serious balls.
the soldier in the beginning in the armored vehicle seemed like a nice guy in a bad conflict
A Crimean Pink Floyd cover band? DA I LIKE!!
If world war 3 starts because of a piece of land that is 10,000 square feet long I swear to God..
actually an area doesnt have a lenght...
Inception1338 YOU PROVOCATEUR...
You do a good job man one of the best journos i have seen !!!
I suggest following him on twitter @SimonOstrovsky
Poor reporter trying to dirty Russia. Crimea has been the territory of Russia since 1783. The "civilized West" have no idea that the Crimea became part of Ukraine thanks to the administrative intervention of the Ukrainians N.With. Khrushchev in the role of boss of the USSR in 1954 - and it was against the will of the population of Crimea. Crimea would be Ukrainian even today, but after an illegal coup with Western financial assistance began persecution of Russians throughout Ukraine - and Crimea is predominantly Russian. Crimea had the status of an autonomous republic with its own parliament, and therefore, according to the UN Charter - the right of nations to self-determination, par. 1, paragraph.2 had the right to a referendum. What is more power than the opinion of the nation ? The vast majority of residents expressed themselves in favor of returning to the assembly of the Russian Federation. The precedent was Kosovo's secession from Serbia due to NATO bombing.
at 6:15 he's like I'm gonna whoop some ass then thinks naw lol
Всё-же украинцы в своём большинстве куда более космополитично настроены, чем русские в своём большинстве и им сочувствующие.
Так-что кто ещё из них, из русских и украинцев - нацисты и ксенофобы, я бы ещё поспорил.
Ну а шо. Нормальные такие, в большинстве своем, толерантные к нацизму эурапейцы. Не то, что русские варвары. Зато на Украине теперь официально самая космополитическая и толерантная армия в Европе :)
То ,что Украинцы называют космополитизмом, в России называют - Украинская проституция. Исторически так сложилось , украинцы всегда давали под хвост тому , у кого болт побольше.
I like that reporter, give him an award for..f**** sake.
TWELVE MEGAPIXELS, BITCH!
anybody could tell what kind of grenades are being shown at 7:43 while he was screwing fuses on them?
Is the sound intermittently cutting out for anyone else?
Славься страна! Мы гордимся тобой!
Что так плохо говорите на английском?) автомат половину слов не может перевести))
Anyone got this as a Recommendation in 2022?
How come the Ukrainians are so warm and welcoming . polite and well mannered and every Russian person in this series of videos is vulgar , angry , always yelling and calling the opposing side nazis or fascists.
To put it simply: Vodka
On account of excellent movie direction. I guess they will receive Oscar soon and Medal for Honor.
Because VICE is just as biased as any new sources out there, they only show us what they want to, and this guy made it clear that he is against the russians, so yeah...
the ukranians welcome western press because in probably 98.9 % their on non-russian side. the russians aware of it