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Freeflex vs. Autoflex // Which One is King of Longer Drives?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- We test if the Freeflex shaft is finally a challenger to the well-established king of distance shafts - the famous Autoflex.
0:00 // Intro
4:16 // Testing
8:38 // Results & Conclusions
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Can’t say it enough, the boys being back together and enjoying themselves is just the best! Makes my week, lads
Well said Olaf, it's just great to have the Boys back together again and having a Ball👍👍
The amount of fun you guys are having these days literally brings a smile to my face
Next vid should be AutoFlex vs. Mitsubishi Vanquish. I’d love to see the results on that test.
Thanks for the great content like always!
Yea the vanquish is awesome
Would love to see a session with a few of these lightweight or flex shafts with a slower swingspeed in the mere mortals range. Like 85-95 and 90-100 range. And test the Freefelx, Autoflex, Vanquish and BGT Brava.
I know TXG is the information specialist but I really would love to see a little round played with you two.
They did one not too long ago! But the conditions were freezing haha. They mentioned in a live Q&A that they have more coming up
My fitting at the inventor/manufacture SJ Golf in Korea is next Thursday !! Pretty exciting !! (Yes I have the Autoflex already !)
8:29 one of the best reactions ever on the channel. Love it!
I've never regretted my TXG built Autoflex for one single swing. If you want attention on the 1st tee, pick one up!!! Splendid job boys.
Definitely agree on the auto flex being attention grabbing! I saw a guy on the range with one a while back. As an obvious gear junkie/TXG fan, I observed from a distance while everyone else came over like “what is that bright pink shaft you got!?” 😂
What length autoflex are you gaming?
I love Matt's flow
You needed Ronnie to try both out for the masses!!!
i hit autoflex 505xx at the golf expo last weekend here in korea. i normally swing my driver about 113~114mph and i usually use various tour-ad shafts in 7x or 7tx. The feeling of the autoflex shaft in down swing is a bit similar to MJ's. it is soft and easy to feel the impact timing(it feels like there's more time than other shafts). The most curious thing is that how hard i swing my arm or how fast i turn my body, it gives same feel and it stands strong behind my arm(where at it should be). And it never makes a hook ball. NO anxiety at all when swinging full speed or full strength.
Can we talk about his drives tho. That 350 bomb is actually wild and his swing is so smooth
I played the sf405 for a while and saw lots of distance, but autoflex had too much dispersion. Then I tried the bgt brava and got almost the same distance with tighter dispersion. But in the pursuit of the perfect shaft, I stumbled on the vanquish and found the answers to my dream drives. For me, it is so straight and long. With my 90-95 mph swing, I chose the 4SR. I paired it with the rogue st max LS head and just love it. I'm looking forward to trying the paradym or tsr3 head with it, too. I'm 63 and play to a 12 handicap btw.
How far are you hitting your gamer??
@Reggie Salad 240-260 in South florida on fast fairways
would you guys consider doing a Regular vs. Stiff vs. X Stiff driver comparison? show the benefits of stiffness for different swing speeds
They have done a couple (even one about a year ago) comparing whippy shafts (auto flex) vs a super stiff shaft. Ian talked about the dynamic differences in delivery between the shafts
@@djmico0713 Thanks DJ
Matt's ball speeds are insane right now. I think you need to test this with somebody that is consistent around 85-90 mph CHS
I laughed out loud at, “I want a snort.”😂
Been looking forward to this one boys! Thanks for all you do.
I want to see these 2 vs the Brava if possible please
breakthroughgolftech.com/shop/brava-driver-shafts/
I can offer some user feedback for the Free Flex.
They sent me the 38 gram version to test out. My current gamer is the Speedzone with the stock regular shaft it came with. Never been fitted. I know (or thought I knew) that I wasn't swinging fast enough to get into a stiff flex shaft. The best I could carry with the current setup is 240 on the best day when everything aligns.
I got a somewhat fitting done with the Free Flex while staying with the Speedzone. It was in that fitting I found I actually do fit into the stiff category (in the fitting we made some swing tweaks which increased speed and efficiency). That twinned with the Freeflex shaft being incredibly light and at 46 inches long, the club head speed had increased significantly to the point where I may have been better with the 45 series.
All that being said however, if I swing for the fences and timing and everything is spot on, I can get 20 to 25 yards more carry with the 38 gram Free Flex. Having golfed for 2.5 years, some days I just can't get the driver to work and that's where I have found the Free Flex to shine. If I dial my swing down to 70 to 80%, although it looks slow, I've got myself a 230 to 240 yard carry fairway finder and that can't be understated how awesome that is. 100% you should get fitted for it and not buy it hoping it'll work, as I am still figuring it out, getting more consistency and seeing if I can get it to work at a 90 to 95% swing speed more often than not.
However, if you have an injury that limits your movement and thus taken away the distance from your game, I would be interested to see how they would fair with the Free Flex.
Don't TH-cam much but you can find some posts of me using the FreeFlex on my gram (@greenhorngolfers)
great video guys. breaking that 185 ball speed is crazy! is there any chance you guys do a ventus TR Purple attempt again? or maybe try tipping the TR blue a lot and see what kind of profile that can produce?
Yes! Autoflex wins! Now I want to see that model vs the 505xx.
I played my first round today with an Autoflex shaft and TSR 2. Try this shaft!
Been waiting for this! Ty!
Love it, great vid guys!
Seeing those club head speeds approaching 127mph, I can't help but think TXG needs to tackle a test about the new proposed USGA ball proposal. I.e. test a range of balls from super soft to firm, at very high speed, to see what range might meet the new parameters. They basically want to achieve the same 317yd distance, but at 127mph instead of 120mph. So we need something that loses 5-7mph off the club face compared to the current tour balls. Everybody is losing their mind thinking this will be some massive change, but it is likely most ball MFGs already have balls in their current lineup that would fit within the new parameters. Some of the previous test of Pro V1 vs AVX, and even Drew Cooper hitting two models of Bridgestone balls trends this way.
How about the last swing that almost mirrored the USGA robot at 128/2200/10 launch. I think we might need a bit more of a decrease to bring the ball speed down about 10% or 18mph to only sniff 317!
@@nathanfrey9858 A few years ago they did a Wilson Duo Soft vs Pro V1 test. At Matt's swing speed off the driver (120mph range), the Duo Soft was something like 6-7mph slower off the face. It would be interesting to see that at the 127 speed outlined in the new proposal.
How about the swing transition? Auto flex seems to like a smooth transition? Is the free flex more forgiving with that?
You guys should do a test with the paderson golf shaft used in Long Drive. Same soft flex
Need to google martin borgmeier's setup! That TPT 40g ladies/light flex is crazy!
Hahahahaha!!! “GRUNTING”
I near wet myself!!
Awesome!!!! Time to throw that Vanquish shaft in there… 🤞
"Feels pretty good, a bit noodle-y".... 340 yards. So great.
This was great. 186 is a monster
Need Brava in this test!
..we need Mikey to give this a crack, doesn't he game autoflex? would be great to see at his speeds how they match up and against a "standard" shaft as a control..
seems like you all love the Titleist driver head for your gamers. Is it just that good?
Please if you could compare the Fujikura Motore X F5 5-R2 to the comparable AutoFlex driver shaft. Love your channel you guys are great. Thanks
Mattie BOI!!!💣
Have to test these 2 shafts with a 82-85 mph swing speed.
Very fun! would you consider BGT Brava in the same category as FF and AutoF?
Holy crap - I wanna see Drew Cooper test both these shafts. BUT - more importantly Ronnie. I am curious how these shafts work for him.
Should have Mikey test at this flex. Why don't we see him anymore in the bay?
I would love to see you test these against the Mitsubishi Vanquish
Here we go! 😂 🔥
What was the playing length of these? Great video and always look forward to your uploads!
Didn't even hear a snort 🤣🤣🤣
Hey guys which model of each would be best for me? Driver club speed averages 93 MPH
Free flex + Ronnie = 😊
Hello guys, love your objectivity. I'm 69 and my swing speed is 80 mph with the driver. I drive the ball 190 carry and 210 total. Do you recommend this shaft for a senior like me?
Yes, as long as you don’t need to save any more for retirement
Yes I am 70 with 82mph swing and carry 195 and 215 total, I have and autoflex with swing weight of d0 (very important to not go to high on swing weight) in a Tour Edge C721 10.5 degree head set at upright 11.5 degrees and it is a fairway finder and very good distance. Very satisfied
Price online looks like $650 usd, tad higher than 150$. Great video boys!! Any chance you do a tpt 21hi(new version/oldversion) vs autoflex? I've used both and the results are unreal!!
I think they said it's a savings of $150 compared to Autoflex.
Probably misheard over my kids yelling in the background
TXG so lucky…
…iMatt & his Autoflex: seemingly meet in-house golf ball tester parameters requirements suitable for bifurcation golf ball evaluation & analysis.
My concern with both shafts is how do these compliment the other clubs in the bag?? Having a club that's more whippy and then having irons and what not that are xstiff... seems like they could combat each other.
I cant stop staring at the 2 pink lines in the top right hand corner ................
Riptide cb 50 5.0 if u can find one. Similar to 505xx
Ronnie the rocket should try this
Hahaha. Nice record there.
Best work yet!!! 🫡👌🏻👏🏻❤️🤸🏻♂️
Good stuff!!!! Both Toronto studios have these to test drive??
How do pick a shaft, every fitter I’ve seen has hundreds of shafts on the wall and then they only recommend 2 or 3 different?
Alright….. Put the AutoFlex in the Wilson driver. Let’s see what she can do. But also think about the sound!
Beast!!
So AF is about distance? I thought it was supposed to help with accuracy and dispersion???
Possible to get Ronnie testing it out?
How do these shafts compare to the Brava shaft. Can you do a comparison
Can we see the vanquish vs autoflex?
Not bad FF. I might consider FF, if my AF give way … 😬
Drew copper is killing his free flex
Who carries the free flex?
Normal speed test please?
Wasn't there a autoflex style shaft that came out several years ago and was only $100?
If the auto flex is so good how come you guys don’t use them ?😅
Brava stiff is where is at for anybody over 100mph
do these have the same swing weight?
also - would be great to see handle pressure during swing
Awesome. AutoFlex slays another wannabe 🙂. Which AF would be best for a swing speed of low 90's? AF 405 or 505? I realize that fitting would be best but not really available near me.
Did the rocket give freeflex a try? Or just Autoflex?
Saw the vid and you said you pured the shaft(s) you fit, given the adjustable hosels used in clubs these days, if people adjust the club using the hosel does this negate the puring ?
What swing weight is the autoflex build ???
Shaft orientation to influence your shotshape is illegal according to the rules of golf, isn’t it?
Can you guys do Brava BGT X versus AF 505 XX?
I think is is illegal to orient a shaft to promote a draw or fade. Neutral is ok, but to orient a shotshape on purpose is not legal. Dont know how they would check it though :)
This is correct.
OK, so now get Ronnie doing the same test .... 😁
The Mighty Autoflex, was there any doubt, not really.
Autoflex still the champ!!!
How would these shafts compare to shafts that feel as soft as this, like a light weight stiff or even a regular flex shaft? Is it all timing or is there some real wizardry going on?
its a better shaft for speed
127 club sounds impossible to me.
I don’t know where your getting your pricing from but FreeFlex is going for $650 not $140. Still less then Autoflex but not by much.
I would sell my soul for that ball flight
It's a bit pricey to try with auto Flex
its not pink enough!
$140 USD?? When I checked it online it is listed at $650 USD.
140 less than autoflex, not 140 in price
@@clubchampionmedia Thanks for the clarification!
Why would anyone use these shafts???
Come on guys it’s hitting low on the phase because of a lot of flex Tee it higher
"Didn't hit that well"... Carries 300 lol
A lot of these shafts are complete BS. I'd love to see you get a Tour AD IZ 50g and put it up against these!