Honestly, I hate the way the meaning of the word "Diet" has been changed(not literally) to describe starvation methods💀💀💀 It bothers me a lot. A healthy diet, which nourishes your body with balanced nutrients, can work wonders for your body and health-this is literally what a diet is. It's not about starving yourself, but every time I hear someone talking about dieting, it usually(sadly) is about eating less...
@@Natasha.Louisee I couldn't agree more! It doesn't bother me as much when others tell me not to diet, but when my mom or friends discourage me from dieting, it does disappoint me and makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. For the better context - I'm currently on a health journey, and diet is a crucial part of that process.
But eating less is the only way to lose weight, which is why people go on “diets”. Every person has a set amount of calories per day going above which causes weight gain. The only problem I have is when people think that they can eat “healthy” food in any amount and it will help them lose weight because it’s all about calories. If you overwork your body by giving it more energy than it needs, it stores it, and if you don’t stop, you’ll significantly reduce your quality of life. It is genuinely concerning, though, that people think that eating less is bad when it actually only causes weight loss, but eating whatever and in any amount is okay because you’re “nourishing your body”?
@@ChristieOraeluno-pm9sx without a calorie deficit, if you’re eating back all of those calories burned from exercise, you’ll just maintain your weight. do your research. your body doesn’t need more than it can handle.
my sister had a pinterest board about thin bodies ( she was bulimic ) and just like 3 months ago she show me the pictures, I was like 😳 that is Wonyoung, that is Seulgi, that is Sakura, and many other kpop idols. She is not even into kpop and yet she use their pics are thinspo 😭.
Kpop made me full on relapse with my ED when I was 20 and I got to the lowest weight I’ve ever been. I don’t like to talk about it because I think it can scare people off from kpop but it’s a real danger. I was obsessed with these beautiful women and their perfectly thin bodies. It doesn’t help that kpop idolizes the exact same petite figure that I had been since I discovered ED tumblr at 14. I try not to think about it anymore but it’s still hard. I’m reminded of the internal pressure every time I watch a kpop stage, even if I try to distract myself. When I’m feeling weak, I still visit ED spaces online and they love winter, rose, & Wonyoung’s bodies - the very thinnest among the thin. It’s scary. I worry for vulnerable young women because I know how easy it is to slip under the waves of pressure and it’s so hard to pull yourself out of the riptide. The lure of the beautiful & thin is like a siren song. I still feel the pressure now at 30.
While I’ve never had a full fledge eating disorder, I have struggled with body image and disordered eating since I was a teenager. As I’ve gotten into my 20s it’s definitely gotten better and I finally felt pretty good about my body for the first time since I was a teenager. I started getting into kpop about a year ago and without me even noticing it all of my body image issues and struggles surrounding food came back, and it was even worse than before it seemed. I absolutely attribute it to kpop and just being constantly exposed to idols who are so thin. It’s like the part of my brain that controls body image issues/eating was suddenly activated again after being exposed to kpop. It’s actually crazy, and I’m just now realizing how damaging it’s been for me.
I was on the Twice fandom wiki on Saturday, reading about the members, and right at the top of momo's page is her diet. I knew about the diet and what doubly disturbed me is the casual Momo doesn't like water fun fact. Trust me if I was Momo, I'd refuse to touch water again but for some fans it's just a quirk of her
I hate how people that don't even stan twice make it her hole personality when that was years ago and she had a terrible health back then :(. She's a lot better know
i think part of it is that eurocentric features are also 'coming back', think about it ariana grande stopped tanning; the kardashians also stopped tanning (as much) and lost tons of weight, taking out their implants; ice spice lost a ton of weight being pale and thin has always been a trend in korea, so its not surprising to assume kpop played a role in the skinny trend coming back although thin waists, arms, and faces have always been the standard, celebrities are promoting a new trend of smaller lips, smaller legs, lighter skin
Yes, I think this is it. There was a temporary trend to look racially ambiguous (read: mixed white and black), and now that trend is gone. You see it in music too, hip hop and rap were much more dominant in the early 2000's and 2010's than they are now. The billboard top 10 is whiter, and there are more POC entering traditionally white genres like country. Idk why this is, could just be that people get tired of one trend and look for something "fresh". You see this in fashion and design as well, people reintroduce concepts from the past, and suddenly they look fresh again just because they're different than the dominant trend. Or it could be something darker, related to many people's anxiety about falling white birth rates and immigration.
I noticed that XG's Harvey had gained some healthy weight recently, her tummy looks soft and she's much fuller than during their debut era. But the AMOUNT of comments I've been seeing of people overanalysing her body or just straight up calling her fat or saying she needs to loose weight makes me think I'm losing my mind!! People's perspectives have become so warped it's insane. Even myself, before I got into kpop I never woulve noticed such a thing, it's sad.
It's so crazy because people have been calling Nayeon from Twice too "fat" lately, or they've said she has gained quite a bit of weight but she looks a lot healthier and happier now so for people to say such thing about different idols is so crazy to me.
I got into Kpop at 12 and man… the stuff that it did to little old me 😭😭 I got so insecure about my weight..thighs..face…even my own skin tone- I’m happy it’s not as bad now though
The fact that at your school in 2016 only three people knew what kpop was in 2024 in my class of 18 people 8 of us are kpop stans and everyone knows about it I can't believe how much more popular it became
Honestly, I didn’t even pay attention to what my body looked like until I got in K-pop when I was 14. Before that, I just ate whatever I want I knew I had a pretty face, but I never paid attention to my body and it made me really insecure, but now as an adult, I realize that I’m not even fat my body is pretty average and the K-pop standards are way too high..
Thinness will always be the *beauty standard* even if its not always a trend. Thinner bodies will always be preferred to biggers bodies in most developed countries. And trends always cycle. I wonder if rectangle bodies will come back too.
Lowkey feel like when I was 12 Kpop was one of the reasons for my eating disorder. I used to watch videos of people trying the difficult idols diets and wanting to try them myself. I used to compare myself to idols all the time. 😢
I will say the person who hit this trend off was Bella Hadid and filling in hip dips. When she become a top model and got all the surgery and became the beauty standard, things definitely shifted and like 5 years later Kim gets her implants out. There was a time in kpop when being thin and straight like a door was enough. But now as a female idol, you need to be skinny and curvy. I suspect this is from influences of the west ie apple hips of the 2010s which eventually led to female idols wearing pads in their hip, which was never a thing in kpop before.
I was literally thinking for some years now that K-pop has something to do with everyone trying to lose weight and being skinny with curves , but in every video I saw there people tried to explain the phenomenon they always had different reasons so I thought I’m the only one thinking it has something to do with K-pop and I’m glad to see now that I’m not the only one thinking this way . ❤
Yuuuppp, I definitely think the 2000’s revival and the k-wave are affecting people’s tastes in body types. I’m literally an example of this- I got a breast reduction last year. I feel I was subconsciously affected by the body types I was seeing in k-dramas (wasn’t into kpop yet). It was still a medically beneficial procedure. But I wonder if I would not have bothered to do it if I was NOT inundated with images of very slim bodies all the time? Whatevs, I’m very happy and much more comfortable now!!
ED community always adopted "muses" and with the global success of kpop and the dangerous diets adopted by idols it's natural they're turning this away. Before Wony, every single acc had Lisa pics in their profile as thinspo, and before it was IU, etc. When I was active part of that, the muse was Taylor Swift, and before that it was others very skinny celebrities, influencers, and even tumblr girls in the late 2000s. Some of them already publically presenting signs of EDs. Oddly enough all of their communities of fans turn to be always very fatphobics and also very ageists. I see the waters changed but still the same river
i remember during itzy's wannabe era ryujin looked so so good and healthy yet people called her "too thick" (not in the good way) and then when she lost a bunch of weight, ppl started saying she is too skinny. i think the same has happened to wendy among so many others. like what is it that the fans want? also the fact that female bodies are spectated way closer than male bodies in kpop... the amount of full on articles i see written about female idols' bodies is shocking
I remember when Momo was forced to diet. And Jihyo was called fat during sixteen and she was called that on broadcast and some netizens were also attacking her for her tanned skin recently even on bubble someone asked her to never tan again.And also how can people laugh on Nayeon's teeth... I think that one of the most body shamed idols you didn't mention is Kyla of Pristin and Momoland members (I think all were body shamed at some point) but Momoland got so much hate for breathing and they were treated horribly by their company
No literally, I've been saying this !! It baffles me that no one else has made the connection. Just as much as being pale is all of a sudden becoming more desirable in the west as well. I'm so convinced that it has to do with kpop becoming so much more mainstream, especially the appearance of east asian idols in western media, red carpet events, etc. (the way you said the same things in your video and I typed this before watching; great minds think alike and also yeah, now I'm more convinced that that's the reason why 😭)
Kpop has gotten thinner too though. When I started following it back in the 2nd gen era, people were praising Uee's "honey thighs", aka thick thighs, and snsd Yuri's full hips. A couple years later, everyone was obsessed with Seolhyun's round butt. Things seemed to change in 3rd gen, especially with blackpink. The largest blackpink member was around the same size as the average snsd member, while 3 out of 4 were visibly underweight. Things got even worse with the popularity of izone's Wonyoung, who may have been underweight initially because she was a 13 year old that had just completed a growth spurt, but she was under such immense pressure to maintain that skeletal physique that she started losing hair on her head and growing what appears to be anorexia related body hair. I guess Asian beauty standards have always been a bit slimmer than Western ones, but something is changing there too, we can't just attribute this trend to kpop, because kpop has changed. Weirdly, the kpop beauty standard has changed in a lot of ways to fit the Western beauty standard, with things like lip filler. Why would they adopt that beauty ideal, but move away from the Western ideal weight? Something else is going on here globally.
yeah we’re cooked. with kpop gaining more and more popularity in the west, ppl like the kardashians who were hugely responsible for the unhealthy tiny waist, big lips and butt image getting their procedures reversed and dissolved, and the dwindling amount of spaces for children and tween content (shows and media catering to preteens, lack of clothing stores catering to the transition from child to adult, etc) kids mental and physical health are gonna continue to tank more than it already has. ESPECIALLY now that all of that ED content and unrealistic beauty standards isn’t just restricted to a tv screen, its in the palm of your hands constantly, 24/7.
girl..i literally love you so much today i was just watching all your videos and now you uploaded. I agree with everything you say. Thank you (you're so pretty ahhhh)
apologies i know i already commented once hehe🤭 i’ve started to see this type on comparison content being created by LITERAL children!! on youtube shorts… it’s so normal right now it’s terrifying. i’m always trying to inform younger kpop fans that fixating on a figure does more harm than good. we can give compliments without them directly mentioning body parts. even if it’s positive it can drastically change the way you perceive yourself, can’t imagine how this will affect these kids
yuuup the pipeline is real asf i can attest to that, edtwt has changed a lot. i check on there sometimes for a laugh honestly and the fatphobia is just running rampant it’s insane. it was nothing like that when i was struggling. we were just supportive to one another because we were struggling with mental health, not the whole motivational shaming bs…. it’s gotten so beyond out of hand scrolling through edtwt is literally nauseating due to the just bitterness and hatred it’s sad and i feel sorry for them hope they come around cause we don’t need more people out there thinking like that and projecting their thoughts onto others. thanks for talking about this luv
I think being skinny has always been a standard in my country, but when I was a child I used to get called skinny which i didn't mind cause it was the standard but in my teenage years I have a pear shaped body which my mom always has problems with , she tells me to hide my lower portion of the body cause I do have a little big butt, she always has problems with my body and tells me I'm fat ...
I already had an ed before getting into kpop, but the whole toxic wonyoungism thing made it even worse, to a point where I had anemia. Even tho now I am doing better, all this fatshaming of idols at healthy weight does make it harder to recover from this unhealthy mindset that I have been stuck in.
I just think society doesn't like people who look their age in general and go for everything that falls into the youthfull look, isn't a bit suspicious how similar are the idol's bodies to a pre teen body? How they don't wanna see a fully developed woman body? How is almost everything oriented to make your face look more cute or childish? Is a problem that's been existing for a long time is just more visible now for the kpop industry, agencies are a response of public demands and their idols the product that their offering
When I got into K-pop girl groups at 11, I was at my worst when it came to my negative body image issues. Seeing all the female members with small and pretty bodies, made me feel bad about my own. And to add on, my older sister shamed me for looking bigger than her. Then I started to listen to boy groups to escape from me comparing myself to those girl groups' members. I am now 13, about to turn 14 next month, and my body image issues have been healed, I still listen and like some girl groups.
I remember I got into kpop waaayy earlier (when I was 14) before all the craze. By my late teenage years I struggled with an eating disorder wanted to be underweight. My inspiration? You guessed it -all these Idols that I was consuming at the time. Took me until my early twenties to fix it and by my mid twenties now I have for years abandoned mostly kpop or pop culture / trends on social media completely.
If you take reccomendation for video topics. I think a interesting topic to discuss would be the: Beauty at different ages in Kpop. Idols having "weird" body types below the age of 20 then growing into their features and completing their growth spirt and becoming really really attractive per netizens. Much of the internet calls it a glow up, defenders call it idols giving into hate comments. But the truth is, they just grew up and their once odd features become showcase attributes to their image.
Chaeryoung comes to mind as an example. Heavily hated on for her looks between the ages of 16-19 then past 19 she fully grows into her features and is given glowing praise for her beauty.
@@Patrick_OBrien No offense but Chaeryeong clearly had plastic surgery around the Sneakers era, she looks great and did grow up well but she's like most other idols who got a few things done here and there. + I remember the video where Itzy was with this one big fitness star from South Korea and when Chaeryeong told him about her work out and diet even he said that it's too extreme. People made fun of her looks so much that she gave in and changed her appearance which is sad but she looks more confident now so power to her.
@VideosForYou90 sure I can definitely see that perspective. And I agree a little here and there, but nothing massive. My point is, idol teenagers go through awkward in unremarkable look phases then when they become full adults their best side comes with them. The transformation and the netizen reaction along that journey and the lack of self awareness is what I think is worth talking about.
i've had the misfortune of seeing profiles on edtwt every single one had a kpop girl as the pfp a lot of them were idols praised for how skinny they were and i mean the ones who look thin to the point it's concerning i think we should all collectively go to waterparks it's a great way to remind ourselves what normal bodies look like which is basically being a wide range of different shapes/sizes and remind ourselves that the idols who get shat on for being fat actually look closer to the average person or are the size of the average person in some nations sometimes most ppl aren't as thin as idols and there's nothing wrong with that
When I approached kpop i was only 15 and I remember that at that time I really spent whole days watching videos of my fav idols on yt and comparing me to them to the point that I developed an ED without being aware of it and and subsequently becoming anorexic.The impact these body models had on my young mind at the time is something that still haunts me today and that I can't still get free.
i'm a bigger girl and have been my entire life, always wanted to lose weight. but kpop was 100% one of the big reasons i lost weight. the biggest reason i lost it bc i wanted to dance better for my kpop dance cover group. i don't have an ed, but i will say that the content you consume will impact how you perceive yourself and kpop DID make me feel bad about myself to some extent. i don't regret losing the weight or my methods because i lost it in a healthy way, especially since i'm an adult, but i can't imagine being a minor and seeing all of the insane beauty standards, like my little sister for example. if i got into kpop at like, 14 or 15 instead of 19 things may have been very different for me.
One of the main reasons I don't really stan girl groups because I do get influenced by their body's still though male idols go on extreme diets it's very sad.
As a skinny person, there was definitely a long period in the 2010s where being skinny was made fun of, and thickness was the ideal. That’s where the BBL era came from… LOL. People hate to acknowledge skinny hate 😂
i have to partially disagree with you. as someone who sees posts from edtwt quite often (despite not being in the community), i think that rather than kpop directly causing eds (which ofc can happen i dont think it happens on a large scale tho), people who already have eds cling to kpop as it is a "great" space to let ur ed evolve into something bigger. ed people are often looking for thinspo, which is often heavily saturated with kpop idols, and that i think can lead them to start being interested in this genre. the fact that kpop is heavily saturated with skinnyness can lead to their eds potentially getting worse. i do agree with you on the fact that kpop has a huge influence on western trends, which probably led to the popularity of being very skinny that we are seeing rn. i do think that asian trends in general influence west more than we think, we can directly see it with makeup trends and i would argue that asian fashion has a lot of influence on western fashion
I started watching kpop content on late 2020, i low key developed an ED on early 2022 , which i still kind of have. I have a lot of "theories" related as to why i have it, the main one is a friend (i believe ED can be "contagious" in some way) who always talked about her ED and introduced me to that world and made me curious, the other one is for sure Kpop, not one thing or idol in specific but the whole industry in general. We cannot deny that kpop has something to do as to why there are lots of young girls with EDs nowdays. Btw, I love your videos SM, ive finally found someone who is objective and really knows what she is talking about.
I took a break from kpop content (still listened to the music but didn't watch like fan content) for about a year and let me just say I'm way less insecure about the way I look now compared to back then.
I'm so glad you've been uploading so much lately! your content is extremely enjoyable and you're actually one of not many youtubers whose videos I always look forward to! (•ө•)♡
Luckily I was in the body dysmorphia boat before Kpop, so I was just happily jamming and comparing Kep1ers & IVEs debut songs. Got an ED last year but I lowkey don't want to believe that Kpop causes sm eating disorders. I know that its abt the industry not the idols but yeah.
No bc kpop truly ruined my body image. Before I got into kpop I weighed 40lbs more. It’s so sad bc I use to love my body but the moment I got into kpop and saw these skinny girls that changed
@@Natasha.Louisee nooo😭😭 Please rest you already gave us so much :( 💓 Don’t forget to Sleep properly Drink water Take care of yourself Read a few books Journal your thoughts Love ya girlie 🥹💗
Ngl lately i’ve been seeing westerns get inspired by east asian beauty standards especially with kpop/anime trend going on. The beauty standards are changing
Wonyoungism was initially perceived as harmless, but with the creation of toxic accounts, people reported negative experiences, even leading to hospital visits. Despite this, I found value in the concept of self-love and healthy living promoted by wonyoungism. I believe it's alright to indulge in junk food occasionally. My main goal is to lose weight and feel comfortable in my own skin. I currently stand at 5'4" and weigh 77kg, aiming to reach a target of 55kg or 59kg. I'm not concerned about attaining an hourglass figure; I simply want to be happy and confidenfluctuations Although I am only 11 years old, I yearn for happiness and self-acceptance. Someone once mentioned that attaining the things you desire might not bring lasting happiness. Even if I reach my weight goal, I fear that I'll continue to worry about gaining weight. I loathe the idea of living my life consumed by such anxieties. However, once I achieve my weight loss objectives, I hope to find contentment and learn not to be overly concerned about gaining a few pounds. After all, it's perfectly normal to experience weight fluctuations.
I am honestly sorry the People gained weight easily but i can't gained weight easily but have normal heathly and never get diet. Yes there re natural skinny people deserve no bodyshaming at all especially the kpop stans think the idols never done diet because they have muscles and look fit.(i was bodyshaming by my sibling for be slim..) As wonyoung stan since 2018 i remember Wonyoung said she have fast metabolism and slow eater since she is kid also i guess she didn't gained faster. IN live she give advice to kids never done diet before 19 yo and always eat much for school As ex wizone(izone fanbase)wonyoung was know As biggest eater in izone but stay skinny with long thin legs .Only 2019 she have gained little bit weight but lost 2020 with rigged scandal or other factor.
Kpop rlly messed me up fr. im gonna be in 10th grade now after summer and have had issues with food since late 7th grade. I compared myself to idols and how my legs were thicker than theirs especially and i went as far as "fasting" when i wasn't loosing enough weight. I thought i was getting better because i started eating more but i realized that in reality its just a restrict, binge, restrict cycle. I don't want to call it an eating disorder because people will throw shit but kpop is the reason I cant look at food normally anymore. Ive been into kpop since 2018 btw and as much as I'm a fan, i wont recommend it to people who don't already know about it because i don't want the same thing to happen to others
I know that this videos intention is to rase awareness, but maybe please dont mention any ed spaces by names. I am a user of the space you mentioned and lots of people, myself included, found out about it through awareness content. And these types of spaces do really worsen ones ed or other mental health issues. I hope this doesnt come across as hateful.
here we go again blaming kpop idols for there bodies and not korean standers and there entertainments. if yall havent been living under a damn rock you would know that These girls and boys are just idols to be shown as perfection they are the stander they are the perfect girl. Dont be shaming them for "Bringing Back Skinny/Ana/Thinspo" This has been going on for years months weeks and now days. The reason why the skinny trend is coming back is because of the beauty standers CELEBS put out and the whole fatphobia thing these comments are ridiculous blaming the idols for giving these unrealistic standers and etc Its not there fault?? Can we please stop blaming the people and start blaming there bosses??? like wtf It would be nice to see you not look the same like an npc in every single thumbnail and not only talk bad about kpop groups and idols but maybe talk about other things might make me see you differently for a change
No one is blaming anyone for their bodies, we're blaming the industry and the beauty standards they bring. A lot of people developed EDs because of Kpop, a lot of people use Kpop idols as a “thinspo”, let's not act like this isn't a thing.
Meanwhile i do understand where are you guys coming from, but from my point of view; the entertainment media has always favoring/glamorize skinny models over any other body types, even after the whole body positivity exists, you can't deny the skinny bias is still exist and going pretty much strong. Also notice that most people with ED that has body image issues are aiming for skinny body and not the other way around? That alone should've speak volumes. I'm really sorry if i sound unsympathetic, skinny people not being included in body positivity does sucks. Because yes, there's people that just naturally unable to gain weights, only to have people reacting with "a small breeze could blew you off!!!" type of crap. But seeing how glamorized skinny body is, maybe that's why those body positivity activists are reluctant to include skinny people? Again, I don't condone those activists exclusive behavior at all. But let's just admit it, skinnier body types are way much more favored as a beauty standard around the world, thanks to entertainment industries like Hollywood, modeling, kpop, anime, etc... Beauty standard is garbage. Don't pressure yourself to be more skinny/fat to fit a group's standard, your body is merely a vessel, take care of it instead. Just be the best version of yourself and stay healthy, also hydration is very important as well. Again, deeply apologize if i went too defensive/unsympathetic here. 🙇🏻
@@YumeraChauque bye, you know that's not what this is about. Asians want to be underweight and want to be skinny at all costs. It permeates every aspect of society and it is an issue in kpop (kpop idols themselves have said so). Also, everyone did not support the fat and curvy people. Fat people will tell u that the fatphobic comments never stopped irl. Skinny has always been the standard and has been given much support. Just because skinny didn't have preeminence for sometime doesn't mean that it wasn't desired.
@@vanillev I know being underweight is not a good thing,but not all world preffer skinny people, I talk from experience, I've always been skinny all my life and people always tell me" you are too skinny, eat more" or "you are just bones and skin,where is the meat"/you are soo flat",etc. That's hurts,and I do not underrate experience of fat people by any means, but when I discovered that in others countrys slim bodies are praised,I became more "happy"(Ikisblt) , and then I start to watch videos on TH-cam, people were saying stuffs like " skinny have always be preffered, etc" I was shocked!! In my country,people LOVE,LOVE curvy bodies, and I don't see that trend shift soon.
I used to get bullied in school 4 years ago because I was skinny. Beauty standards definitely have changed. Now I get complimented for the same feature
No, the stylists absolutely drop the ball when it comes to Jeongyeon. We should be insisting that they don't half-arse her outfits, not gaslighting ourselves and others to accept substandard styling. Like I heard heyitsfeii say numerous times: does look good or does it look good cuz they are skinny?
Kpop idols do get interesting outfits and that's why I fell in love with it anyway. Jeongyeons outfits are very typical for a kpop idol. I think it's funny that you think I gaslighted myself, not that we just might not share the same opinion on something
the renaissance of proana and h3r0!n chic content is so scary. kpop community letting that type of content into the community actually scares me. i hate how this content made me feel about my body, and it took a while to divorce it from what is actually healthy.
Honestly, I hate the way the meaning of the word "Diet" has been changed(not literally) to describe starvation methods💀💀💀 It bothers me a lot.
A healthy diet, which nourishes your body with balanced nutrients, can work wonders for your body and health-this is literally what a diet is. It's not about starving yourself, but every time I hear someone talking about dieting, it usually(sadly) is about eating less...
Oh yes I agree. Whenever I say I’m “on a diet” people freak out. But it was just to implement more fibre and iron into my body~ not to lose weight 😂
@@Natasha.Louisee I couldn't agree more! It doesn't bother me as much when others tell me not to diet, but when my mom or friends discourage me from dieting, it does disappoint me and makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.
For the better context - I'm currently on a health journey, and diet is a crucial part of that process.
But eating less is the only way to lose weight, which is why people go on “diets”. Every person has a set amount of calories per day going above which causes weight gain. The only problem I have is when people think that they can eat “healthy” food in any amount and it will help them lose weight because it’s all about calories. If you overwork your body by giving it more energy than it needs, it stores it, and if you don’t stop, you’ll significantly reduce your quality of life. It is genuinely concerning, though, that people think that eating less is bad when it actually only causes weight loss, but eating whatever and in any amount is okay because you’re “nourishing your body”?
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Just eat and exercise PERIOD!!!!!
@@ChristieOraeluno-pm9sx without a calorie deficit, if you’re eating back all of those calories burned from exercise, you’ll just maintain your weight. do your research. your body doesn’t need more than it can handle.
my sister had a pinterest board about thin bodies ( she was bulimic ) and just like 3 months ago she show me the pictures, I was like 😳 that is Wonyoung, that is Seulgi, that is Sakura, and many other kpop idols. She is not even into kpop and yet she use their pics are thinspo 😭.
that’s heartbreaking, wishing her well 😢
@@Juno3AM thank you, she is doing better and the one that hurt me was Seulgi, because she is my bias of red velvet.
Seulgi looks skinny normal to me, she has curves, but wonyoung definitely looks unhealthy.
Yes Wonyoung is ,,the legend‘ on Ana sites and boards
Kpop made me full on relapse with my ED when I was 20 and I got to the lowest weight I’ve ever been. I don’t like to talk about it because I think it can scare people off from kpop but it’s a real danger. I was obsessed with these beautiful women and their perfectly thin bodies. It doesn’t help that kpop idolizes the exact same petite figure that I had been since I discovered ED tumblr at 14.
I try not to think about it anymore but it’s still hard. I’m reminded of the internal pressure every time I watch a kpop stage, even if I try to distract myself. When I’m feeling weak, I still visit ED spaces online and they love winter, rose, & Wonyoung’s bodies - the very thinnest among the thin. It’s scary.
I worry for vulnerable young women because I know how easy it is to slip under the waves of pressure and it’s so hard to pull yourself out of the riptide. The lure of the beautiful & thin is like a siren song. I still feel the pressure now at 30.
While I’ve never had a full fledge eating disorder, I have struggled with body image and disordered eating since I was a teenager. As I’ve gotten into my 20s it’s definitely gotten better and I finally felt pretty good about my body for the first time since I was a teenager. I started getting into kpop about a year ago and without me even noticing it all of my body image issues and struggles surrounding food came back, and it was even worse than before it seemed. I absolutely attribute it to kpop and just being constantly exposed to idols who are so thin. It’s like the part of my brain that controls body image issues/eating was suddenly activated again after being exposed to kpop. It’s actually crazy, and I’m just now realizing how damaging it’s been for me.
I was on the Twice fandom wiki on Saturday, reading about the members, and right at the top of momo's page is her diet. I knew about the diet and what doubly disturbed me is the casual Momo doesn't like water fun fact. Trust me if I was Momo, I'd refuse to touch water again but for some fans it's just a quirk of her
And then there is this DTNA challenge where they ate ice ;(
That’s so fucked omg like it can’t be anything but a trauma response to not be able to drink something that we all would die without
I hate how people that don't even stan twice make it her hole personality when that was years ago and she had a terrible health back then :(. She's a lot better know
i think part of it is that eurocentric features are also 'coming back', think about it
ariana grande stopped tanning; the kardashians also stopped tanning (as much) and lost tons of weight, taking out their implants; ice spice lost a ton of weight
being pale and thin has always been a trend in korea, so its not surprising to assume kpop played a role in the skinny trend coming back
although thin waists, arms, and faces have always been the standard, celebrities are promoting a new trend of smaller lips, smaller legs, lighter skin
yup.
Yes, I think this is it. There was a temporary trend to look racially ambiguous (read: mixed white and black), and now that trend is gone. You see it in music too, hip hop and rap were much more dominant in the early 2000's and 2010's than they are now. The billboard top 10 is whiter, and there are more POC entering traditionally white genres like country. Idk why this is, could just be that people get tired of one trend and look for something "fresh". You see this in fashion and design as well, people reintroduce concepts from the past, and suddenly they look fresh again just because they're different than the dominant trend. Or it could be something darker, related to many people's anxiety about falling white birth rates and immigration.
I noticed that XG's Harvey had gained some healthy weight recently, her tummy looks soft and she's much fuller than during their debut era. But the AMOUNT of comments I've been seeing of people overanalysing her body or just straight up calling her fat or saying she needs to loose weight makes me think I'm losing my mind!! People's perspectives have become so warped it's insane. Even myself, before I got into kpop I never woulve noticed such a thing, it's sad.
It's so crazy because people have been calling Nayeon from Twice too "fat" lately, or they've said she has gained quite a bit of weight but she looks a lot healthier and happier now so for people to say such thing about different idols is so crazy to me.
I got into Kpop at 12 and man… the stuff that it did to little old me 😭😭 I got so insecure about my weight..thighs..face…even my own skin tone- I’m happy it’s not as bad now though
The fact that at your school in 2016 only three people knew what kpop was in 2024 in my class of 18 people 8 of us are kpop stans and everyone knows about it I can't believe how much more popular it became
Honestly, I didn’t even pay attention to what my body looked like until I got in K-pop when I was 14. Before that, I just ate whatever I want I knew I had a pretty face, but I never paid attention to my body and it made me really insecure, but now as an adult, I realize that I’m not even fat my body is pretty average and the K-pop standards are way too high..
Thinness will always be the *beauty standard* even if its not always a trend. Thinner bodies will always be preferred to biggers bodies in most developed countries. And trends always cycle. I wonder if rectangle bodies will come back too.
Lowkey feel like when I was 12 Kpop was one of the reasons for my eating disorder. I used to watch videos of people trying the difficult idols diets and wanting to try them myself. I used to compare myself to idols all the time. 😢
same here glad im past it now hope ur doing well ☺
Me too. Although I was 14 not 12
I had this exact experience at 12 😭 it haunted me for years
I will say the person who hit this trend off was Bella Hadid and filling in hip dips. When she become a top model and got all the surgery and became the beauty standard, things definitely shifted and like 5 years later Kim gets her implants out.
There was a time in kpop when being thin and straight like a door was enough. But now as a female idol, you need to be skinny and curvy. I suspect this is from influences of the west ie apple hips of the 2010s which eventually led to female idols wearing pads in their hip, which was never a thing in kpop before.
I was literally thinking for some years now that K-pop has something to do with everyone trying to lose weight and being skinny with curves , but in every video I saw there people tried to explain the phenomenon they always had different reasons so I thought I’m the only one thinking it has something to do with K-pop and I’m glad to see now that I’m not the only one thinking this way . ❤
Yuuuppp, I definitely think the 2000’s revival and the k-wave are affecting people’s tastes in body types.
I’m literally an example of this- I got a breast reduction last year. I feel I was subconsciously affected by the body types I was seeing in k-dramas (wasn’t into kpop yet). It was still a medically beneficial procedure. But I wonder if I would not have bothered to do it if I was NOT inundated with images of very slim bodies all the time? Whatevs, I’m very happy and much more comfortable now!!
ED community always adopted "muses" and with the global success of kpop and the dangerous diets adopted by idols it's natural they're turning this away. Before Wony, every single acc had Lisa pics in their profile as thinspo, and before it was IU, etc. When I was active part of that, the muse was Taylor Swift, and before that it was others very skinny celebrities, influencers, and even tumblr girls in the late 2000s. Some of them already publically presenting signs of EDs. Oddly enough all of their communities of fans turn to be always very fatphobics and also very ageists. I see the waters changed but still the same river
i remember during itzy's wannabe era ryujin looked so so good and healthy yet people called her "too thick" (not in the good way) and then when she lost a bunch of weight, ppl started saying she is too skinny. i think the same has happened to wendy among so many others. like what is it that the fans want? also the fact that female bodies are spectated way closer than male bodies in kpop... the amount of full on articles i see written about female idols' bodies is shocking
I remember when Momo was forced to diet. And Jihyo was called fat during sixteen and she was called that on broadcast and some netizens were also attacking her for her tanned skin recently even on bubble someone asked her to never tan again.And also how can people laugh on Nayeon's teeth... I think that one of the most body shamed idols you didn't mention is Kyla of Pristin and Momoland members (I think all were body shamed at some point) but Momoland got so much hate for breathing and they were treated horribly by their company
No literally, I've been saying this !! It baffles me that no one else has made the connection. Just as much as being pale is all of a sudden becoming more desirable in the west as well. I'm so convinced that it has to do with kpop becoming so much more mainstream, especially the appearance of east asian idols in western media, red carpet events, etc.
(the way you said the same things in your video and I typed this before watching; great minds think alike and also yeah, now I'm more convinced that that's the reason why 😭)
tasha been on a roll
Oh boy, here we go..
Kpop has gotten thinner too though. When I started following it back in the 2nd gen era, people were praising Uee's "honey thighs", aka thick thighs, and snsd Yuri's full hips. A couple years later, everyone was obsessed with Seolhyun's round butt. Things seemed to change in 3rd gen, especially with blackpink. The largest blackpink member was around the same size as the average snsd member, while 3 out of 4 were visibly underweight. Things got even worse with the popularity of izone's Wonyoung, who may have been underweight initially because she was a 13 year old that had just completed a growth spurt, but she was under such immense pressure to maintain that skeletal physique that she started losing hair on her head and growing what appears to be anorexia related body hair. I guess Asian beauty standards have always been a bit slimmer than Western ones, but something is changing there too, we can't just attribute this trend to kpop, because kpop has changed. Weirdly, the kpop beauty standard has changed in a lot of ways to fit the Western beauty standard, with things like lip filler. Why would they adopt that beauty ideal, but move away from the Western ideal weight? Something else is going on here globally.
yeah we’re cooked. with kpop gaining more and more popularity in the west, ppl like the kardashians who were hugely responsible for the unhealthy tiny waist, big lips and butt image getting their procedures reversed and dissolved, and the dwindling amount of spaces for children and tween content (shows and media catering to preteens, lack of clothing stores catering to the transition from child to adult, etc) kids mental and physical health are gonna continue to tank more than it already has. ESPECIALLY now that all of that ED content and unrealistic beauty standards isn’t just restricted to a tv screen, its in the palm of your hands constantly, 24/7.
girl..i literally love you so much today i was just watching all your videos and now you uploaded. I agree with everything you say. Thank you (you're so pretty ahhhh)
apologies i know i already commented once hehe🤭 i’ve started to see this type on comparison content being created by LITERAL children!! on youtube shorts… it’s so normal right now it’s terrifying. i’m always trying to inform younger kpop fans that fixating on a figure does more harm than good. we can give compliments without them directly mentioning body parts. even if it’s positive it can drastically change the way you perceive yourself, can’t imagine how this will affect these kids
Skinny never went away in kpop or East Asia as a whole. Nothing new here
yuuup the pipeline is real asf i can attest to that, edtwt has changed a lot. i check on there sometimes for a laugh honestly and the fatphobia is just running rampant it’s insane. it was nothing like that when i was struggling. we were just supportive to one another because we were struggling with mental health, not the whole motivational shaming bs…. it’s gotten so beyond out of hand scrolling through edtwt is literally nauseating due to the just bitterness and hatred it’s sad and i feel sorry for them hope they come around cause we don’t need more people out there thinking like that and projecting their thoughts onto others. thanks for talking about this luv
I think being skinny has always been a standard in my country, but when I was a child I used to get called skinny which i didn't mind cause it was the standard but in my teenage years I have a pear shaped body which my mom always has problems with , she tells me to hide my lower portion of the body cause I do have a little big butt, she always has problems with my body and tells me I'm fat ...
oh video after video we literally love you
I already had an ed before getting into kpop, but the whole toxic wonyoungism thing made it even worse, to a point where I had anemia. Even tho now I am doing better, all this fatshaming of idols at healthy weight does make it harder to recover from this unhealthy mindset that I have been stuck in.
i saw my 10 year old sister watching k-pop idols diets and workouts video a month ago and she calls herself a pig.
Mine does it too and it's truly hard breaking, I even tried to help her with her body image but she just keeps falling those things
I just think society doesn't like people who look their age in general and go for everything that falls into the youthfull look, isn't a bit suspicious how similar are the idol's bodies to a pre teen body? How they don't wanna see a fully developed woman body? How is almost everything oriented to make your face look more cute or childish? Is a problem that's been existing for a long time is just more visible now for the kpop industry, agencies are a response of public demands and their idols the product that their offering
When I got into K-pop girl groups at 11, I was at my worst when it came to my negative body image issues. Seeing all the female members with small and pretty bodies, made me feel bad about my own. And to add on, my older sister shamed me for looking bigger than her. Then I started to listen to boy groups to escape from me comparing myself to those girl groups' members. I am now 13, about to turn 14 next month, and my body image issues have been healed, I still listen and like some girl groups.
I don't think kpop is the reason beauty standards in the west are changing bit its def a catalyst in this process
I remember I got into kpop waaayy earlier (when I was 14) before all the craze. By my late teenage years I struggled with an eating disorder wanted to be underweight. My inspiration? You guessed it -all these Idols that I was consuming at the time. Took me until my early twenties to fix it and by my mid twenties now I have for years abandoned mostly kpop or pop culture / trends on social media completely.
If you take reccomendation for video topics. I think a interesting topic to discuss would be the: Beauty at different ages in Kpop. Idols having "weird" body types below the age of 20 then growing into their features and completing their growth spirt and becoming really really attractive per netizens. Much of the internet calls it a glow up, defenders call it idols giving into hate comments. But the truth is, they just grew up and their once odd features become showcase attributes to their image.
Chaeryoung comes to mind as an example. Heavily hated on for her looks between the ages of 16-19 then past 19 she fully grows into her features and is given glowing praise for her beauty.
@@Patrick_OBrien No offense but Chaeryeong clearly had plastic surgery around the Sneakers era, she looks great and did grow up well but she's like most other idols who got a few things done here and there. + I remember the video where Itzy was with this one big fitness star from South Korea and when Chaeryeong told him about her work out and diet even he said that it's too extreme. People made fun of her looks so much that she gave in and changed her appearance which is sad but she looks more confident now so power to her.
@VideosForYou90 sure I can definitely see that perspective. And I agree a little here and there, but nothing massive. My point is, idol teenagers go through awkward in unremarkable look phases then when they become full adults their best side comes with them. The transformation and the netizen reaction along that journey and the lack of self awareness is what I think is worth talking about.
@@Patrick_OBrien I can see your point, agree with that!
i've had the misfortune of seeing profiles on edtwt every single one had a kpop girl as the pfp a lot of them were idols praised for how skinny they were and i mean the ones who look thin to the point it's concerning i think we should all collectively go to waterparks it's a great way to remind ourselves what normal bodies look like which is basically being a wide range of different shapes/sizes and remind ourselves that the idols who get shat on for being fat actually look closer to the average person or are the size of the average person in some nations sometimes most ppl aren't as thin as idols and there's nothing wrong with that
When I approached kpop i was only 15 and I remember that at that time I really spent whole days watching videos of my fav idols on yt and comparing me to them to the point that I developed an ED without being aware of it and and subsequently becoming anorexic.The impact these body models had on my young mind at the time is something that still haunts me today and that I can't still get free.
i'm a bigger girl and have been my entire life, always wanted to lose weight. but kpop was 100% one of the big reasons i lost weight. the biggest reason i lost it bc i wanted to dance better for my kpop dance cover group. i don't have an ed, but i will say that the content you consume will impact how you perceive yourself and kpop DID make me feel bad about myself to some extent. i don't regret losing the weight or my methods because i lost it in a healthy way, especially since i'm an adult, but i can't imagine being a minor and seeing all of the insane beauty standards, like my little sister for example. if i got into kpop at like, 14 or 15 instead of 19 things may have been very different for me.
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kpop is the reason i have a raging eating disorder
Binging your videos lol subscribed as well and you're doing amazing work putting light on subjects that actually needs to be talked about
One of the main reasons I don't really stan girl groups because I do get influenced by their body's still though male idols go on extreme diets it's very sad.
honestly for me only one person triggered my ed and made me develop body image issues, it was Park MinYoung from Her private life 😂
As a skinny person, there was definitely a long period in the 2010s where being skinny was made fun of, and thickness was the ideal. That’s where the BBL era came from… LOL. People hate to acknowledge skinny hate 😂
i have to partially disagree with you. as someone who sees posts from edtwt quite often (despite not being in the community), i think that rather than kpop directly causing eds (which ofc can happen i dont think it happens on a large scale tho), people who already have eds cling to kpop as it is a "great" space to let ur ed evolve into something bigger. ed people are often looking for thinspo, which is often heavily saturated with kpop idols, and that i think can lead them to start being interested in this genre. the fact that kpop is heavily saturated with skinnyness can lead to their eds potentially getting worse. i do agree with you on the fact that kpop has a huge influence on western trends, which probably led to the popularity of being very skinny that we are seeing rn. i do think that asian trends in general influence west more than we think, we can directly see it with makeup trends and i would argue that asian fashion has a lot of influence on western fashion
I started watching kpop content on late 2020, i low key developed an ED on early 2022 , which i still kind of have. I have a lot of "theories" related as to why i have it, the main one is a friend (i believe ED can be "contagious" in some way) who always talked about her ED and introduced me to that world and made me curious, the other one is for sure Kpop, not one thing or idol in specific but the whole industry in general. We cannot deny that kpop has something to do as to why there are lots of young girls with EDs nowdays.
Btw, I love your videos SM, ive finally found someone who is objective and really knows what she is talking about.
You're so gorgeous I didn't expect this accent agh not fair
omg girl you are a roll...
I took a break from kpop content (still listened to the music but didn't watch like fan content) for about a year and let me just say I'm way less insecure about the way I look now compared to back then.
came here from thats oomf
Same justice for violet
LoL at the ppl calling any Kpop idol "fat", they're delusional.
I'm so glad you've been uploading so much lately! your content is extremely enjoyable and you're actually one of not many youtubers whose videos I always look forward to! (•ө•)♡
Luckily I was in the body dysmorphia boat before Kpop, so I was just happily jamming and comparing Kep1ers & IVEs debut songs. Got an ED last year but I lowkey don't want to believe that Kpop causes sm eating disorders. I know that its abt the industry not the idols but yeah.
2 videos in one day???? we getting SPOILEDD
Kpop completely changed standards of beauty to its fans
You fit the kpop beauty standard though :)
I’m not Korean so no I don’t 😂
No bc kpop truly ruined my body image. Before I got into kpop I weighed 40lbs more. It’s so sad bc I use to love my body but the moment I got into kpop and saw these skinny girls that changed
you have been posting so much omggg
It feels illegal to be this early.. , Tasha , sweetie you shouldn’t upload this much do you get enough sleep 😭 💗?
I’ll sleep when I’m dead 😁💕💐
@@Natasha.Louisee nooo😭😭
Please rest you already gave us so much :( 💓
Don’t forget to
Sleep properly
Drink water
Take care of yourself
Read a few books
Journal your thoughts
Love ya girlie 🥹💗
@@Natasha.Louisee plz do sleep enough its important for ur mental health dw ur videos will always be top notch
Ngl lately i’ve been seeing westerns get inspired by east asian beauty standards especially with kpop/anime trend going on. The beauty standards are changing
unrelated but drop the hair care routine
It’s just extensions 😉💐💕
u are the definintion of etheral and fairy
before kpop ppl used to tell me I didnt eat enough now after kpop I feel like I eat too much.
this isn't related to the video but your so pretty !! 💗💗💗
Hazel if ur watching this channel please come back to Madeira we miss you!!! I hope your having fun at Walnut but come back!
Wonyoungism was initially perceived as harmless, but with the creation of toxic accounts, people reported negative experiences, even leading to hospital visits. Despite this, I found value in the concept of self-love and healthy living promoted by wonyoungism. I believe it's alright to indulge in junk food occasionally. My main goal is to lose weight and feel comfortable in my own skin. I currently stand at 5'4" and weigh 77kg, aiming to reach a target of 55kg or 59kg. I'm not concerned about attaining an hourglass figure; I simply want to be happy and confidenfluctuations Although I am only 11 years old, I yearn for happiness and self-acceptance. Someone once mentioned that attaining the things you desire might not bring lasting happiness. Even if I reach my weight goal, I fear that I'll continue to worry about gaining weight. I loathe the idea of living my life consumed by such anxieties.
However, once I achieve my weight loss objectives, I hope to find contentment and learn not to be overly concerned about gaining a few pounds. After all, it's perfectly normal to experience weight fluctuations.
I am honestly sorry the People gained weight easily but i can't gained weight easily but have normal heathly and never get diet. Yes there re natural skinny people deserve no bodyshaming at all especially the kpop stans think the idols never done diet because they have muscles and look fit.(i was bodyshaming by my sibling for be slim..)
As wonyoung stan since 2018 i remember Wonyoung said she have fast metabolism and slow eater since she is kid also i guess she didn't gained faster. IN live she give advice to kids never done diet before 19 yo and always eat much for school
As ex wizone(izone fanbase)wonyoung was know As biggest eater in izone but stay skinny with long thin legs .Only 2019 she have gained little bit weight but lost 2020 with rigged scandal or other factor.
Where is your top from pls I need it it’s so cute. Thank u sm
Kpop rlly messed me up fr. im gonna be in 10th grade now after summer and have had issues with food since late 7th grade. I compared myself to idols and how my legs were thicker than theirs especially and i went as far as "fasting" when i wasn't loosing enough weight. I thought i was getting better because i started eating more but i realized that in reality its just a restrict, binge, restrict cycle. I don't want to call it an eating disorder because people will throw shit but kpop is the reason I cant look at food normally anymore. Ive been into kpop since 2018 btw and as much as I'm a fan, i wont recommend it to people who don't already know about it because i don't want the same thing to happen to others
I know that this videos intention is to rase awareness, but maybe please dont mention any ed spaces by names. I am a user of the space you mentioned and lots of people, myself included, found out about it through awareness content. And these types of spaces do really worsen ones ed or other mental health issues.
I hope this doesnt come across as hateful.
here we go again blaming kpop idols for there bodies and not korean standers and there entertainments. if yall havent been living under a damn rock you would know that These girls and boys are just idols to be shown as perfection they are the stander they are the perfect girl. Dont be shaming them for "Bringing Back Skinny/Ana/Thinspo" This has been going on for years months weeks and now days. The reason why the skinny trend is coming back is because of the beauty standers CELEBS put out and the whole fatphobia thing these comments are ridiculous blaming the idols for giving these unrealistic standers and etc Its not there fault?? Can we please stop blaming the people and start blaming there bosses??? like wtf
It would be nice to see you not look the same like an npc in every single thumbnail and not only talk bad about kpop groups and idols but maybe talk about other things might make me see you differently for a change
No one is blaming anyone for their bodies, we're blaming the industry and the beauty standards they bring. A lot of people developed EDs because of Kpop, a lot of people use Kpop idols as a “thinspo”, let's not act like this isn't a thing.
Okay so is it not bad when curvy, hourglass bodies are the beautiful standard in the west? But in asia we can’t be skinny? Hello
By the way, I totally don’t mean this in a defensive way, i’m just really confused because it seems like there’s a double standard in society.
Agree,even in the body positivity comunity,they just celebrate fat and curvy people, but when is skinny, no one gives support.
Meanwhile i do understand where are you guys coming from, but from my point of view; the entertainment media has always favoring/glamorize skinny models over any other body types, even after the whole body positivity exists, you can't deny the skinny bias is still exist and going pretty much strong.
Also notice that most people with ED that has body image issues are aiming for skinny body and not the other way around? That alone should've speak volumes.
I'm really sorry if i sound unsympathetic, skinny people not being included in body positivity does sucks. Because yes, there's people that just naturally unable to gain weights, only to have people reacting with "a small breeze could blew you off!!!" type of crap.
But seeing how glamorized skinny body is, maybe that's why those body positivity activists are reluctant to include skinny people? Again, I don't condone those activists exclusive behavior at all. But let's just admit it, skinnier body types are way much more favored as a beauty standard around the world, thanks to entertainment industries like Hollywood, modeling, kpop, anime, etc...
Beauty standard is garbage. Don't pressure yourself to be more skinny/fat to fit a group's standard, your body is merely a vessel, take care of it instead. Just be the best version of yourself and stay healthy, also hydration is very important as well.
Again, deeply apologize if i went too defensive/unsympathetic here. 🙇🏻
@@YumeraChauque bye, you know that's not what this is about. Asians want to be underweight and want to be skinny at all costs. It permeates every aspect of society and it is an issue in kpop (kpop idols themselves have said so). Also, everyone did not support the fat and curvy people. Fat people will tell u that the fatphobic comments never stopped irl. Skinny has always been the standard and has been given much support. Just because skinny didn't have preeminence for sometime doesn't mean that it wasn't desired.
@@vanillev I know being underweight is not a good thing,but not all world preffer skinny people, I talk from experience, I've always been skinny all my life and people always tell me" you are too skinny, eat more" or "you are just bones and skin,where is the meat"/you are soo flat",etc. That's hurts,and I do not underrate experience of fat people by any means, but when I discovered that in others countrys slim bodies are praised,I became more "happy"(Ikisblt) , and then I start to watch videos on TH-cam, people were saying stuffs like " skinny have always be preffered, etc" I was shocked!! In my country,people LOVE,LOVE curvy bodies, and I don't see that trend shift soon.
I used to get bullied in school 4 years ago because I was skinny. Beauty standards definitely have changed. Now I get complimented for the same feature
girl lmao 💀💀
No, the stylists absolutely drop the ball when it comes to Jeongyeon. We should be insisting that they don't half-arse her outfits, not gaslighting ourselves and others to accept substandard styling.
Like I heard heyitsfeii say numerous times: does look good or does it look good cuz they are skinny?
Kpop idols do get interesting outfits and that's why I fell in love with it anyway. Jeongyeons outfits are very typical for a kpop idol. I think it's funny that you think I gaslighted myself, not that we just might not share the same opinion on something
7:40 wether she endorses it verbally or not it doesnt matter. She still promotes it simply by how she looks.
@@twinkincarnate there's nothing she really can do about it. She's so popular and widely known that it's completely out of her hands to control now.
the renaissance of proana and h3r0!n chic content is so scary. kpop community letting that type of content into the community actually scares me. i hate how this content made me feel about my body, and it took a while to divorce it from what is actually healthy.