Old 1000cc Bikes ARE BETTER than NEW Super Bikes (Must Be a Good Rider)

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  • @yammienoob
    @yammienoob  2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

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    • @hunterdlionheart4323
      @hunterdlionheart4323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I Love the ducati...😍 from phil.

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      On the subjects of bikes, I've ridden both modern and older sports bikes (whilst working in a bike dealership mechanics), and I completely agree that old school liters have way more soul. I currently have both a 1994 ZZR1100 (ZX-11) and an 08 Bandit 1250S, and previously owned a 1996 CBR900RR because of this preference.
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  • @Marcus_972
    @Marcus_972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Most difficult dangerous bikes I ever rode were the late 80s-early 90's GSXR1100s. It's a miracle after owning one as a kid not even old enough to buy a beer & being a green rider that I lived through having it.

    • @muhammadmoussalli376
      @muhammadmoussalli376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh my god u just reminded me of my first street bike which was a1992 gsxr 1100 and that was a crazy pig a mirracle I’m alive + I crashed on that bike a lot 😂😂 learned the hard way

    • @Marcus_972
      @Marcus_972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@muhammadmoussalli376 Weak brakes, sketchy AF suspension, now add a big motor and a 19 year old moron it's a transplant surgeons wet dream.

    • @carlosmacedo1700
      @carlosmacedo1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man the ZZR 1100 with a 5 speed gearbox.... insane bikes.... for hard man...not for these new loolypops....hehehhehehe...... Breaked my femur in 9 parts....3 months in the hospital and 17 of fisio after crashing a 1996 CBR600 I bought the 900 Fireblade....hehehehe...... now have a Mille 2003

    • @silverback3541
      @silverback3541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carlosmacedo1700 we have some similarities my first bike was a 96 CBR f3 which I crashed once in the learning process and my brother had a 2001 Millie the yellow one I rode it more than he did so I'm claiming it. Currently on a Ducati

    • @carlosmacedo1700
      @carlosmacedo1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@silverback3541 Italian bikes are awesome... the mid 2000 with those V2 savage raw engines.... I love my Mille. the breaks suspension and frame are perfect...specially after you tune it all for your riding style... Good rides and stay always safe...regards from Portugal

  • @khujaxx
    @khujaxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Finally, unpopular opinion not unpopular anymore. Bikes, much like cars, peaked at 2000's.

    • @AliAhmed-pf2jq
      @AliAhmed-pf2jq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      💯

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Except for styling 🤢

    • @ZackBadCompany1234
      @ZackBadCompany1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know some still think the best dirt bike ever made was a 2003 kx250

    • @thekommandant1062
      @thekommandant1062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Cars styling sucked in the 2000s, bikes not so much

    • @christiankaae8852
      @christiankaae8852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cars peaked in the 1990’s. The new cars soon coming out now are better looking then the 2000’s

  • @stehir9260
    @stehir9260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    My son in law had a Ducati 1098 in red a few years back. Beautiful bike but lots of maintenance to keep it in proper and safe tune. My son in law put in the time to keep in it in shape for fun rides. It is not just a 5 minute precheck, there is always something to adjust. A young guy bought it from him because it was a rocket but wanted to return it when he realized the maintenance monster he had purchased. NO RETURNS, that's life.

    • @MikeSmith-qs2nr
      @MikeSmith-qs2nr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeh not a cheap bike to run. Desmo is like every 15k miles and 8- 1k gbp.. belts every 5k miles or 2 years at a cost of 300 gbp.. but they are cool

  • @monkmoto1887
    @monkmoto1887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    As an experienced rider I think mid-late 00s for supersports to early 10s for nakeds was the peak of the riders bikes. Riders bike as in a drivers car. Now they’re undoubtedly faster around a track and more accessible at the same time sure, but that doesn’t make them as fun or satisfying to crush the twisties or the track on. The analog throttle and seamless unobstructed braking power and heavy clutch cables will always feel better to me than the electronic throttle, cornering abs and super light clutch’s. It just doesn’t smack right

    • @davidvanbrunt4233
      @davidvanbrunt4233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's cuz we're getting older !!😂🤗🏁

    • @filipesaul8435
      @filipesaul8435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a question
      Right now, as my first bike I'm riding a 1997 bandit 600n, and I really like it so for my next bike in 2 years I'm hesitating between an older bandit 1200 or a newer bandit 1250
      Which one do you think I should get? The main differences is one has more electronic components while the other has not I think haha

  • @Druwoods
    @Druwoods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My 26 year old 916 still amazes me every time I take it out. It's a primal experience, nothing else quite like it.

  • @steelavocado1
    @steelavocado1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    44k to go!!!!!! Let’s go turbo busa!!!!

    • @altortugas5979
      @altortugas5979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s starting to feel like a let-down when I watch a new video and the subs haven’t cracked 1m yet. Anticipation is becoming frustration.

  • @timsretirementjourney8323
    @timsretirementjourney8323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I personally believe motorcycles peaked in the late 1990's/early 2000's as you seem to be forgetting the Honda Super Blackbird and the Hayabusa. Both pretty fast and yet relatively comfortable.

    • @jerryglennie5375
      @jerryglennie5375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed Tim. Got a '99 for the EFI and it has been way more fun without the rider aids

    • @timsretirementjourney8323
      @timsretirementjourney8323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jerryglennie5375 I completely agree. I've never had a bike with any rider aids and I guess that's why I see those as unnecessary add-ons that I'd just as soon not pay extra for.
      My current bike's old ('88 Suzuki Katana 1100) and although I've had to brake pretty hard at times, ... even with the wife on the back, I've never once thought "gee I wish I had ABS".
      Ride safe brother and have a great day.

    • @davidmegaw7235
      @davidmegaw7235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      GSXR1000 K5. All that needed to be said.

    • @wirebrush
      @wirebrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely agree with this

    • @lanethomson5633
      @lanethomson5633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      06 for the gsxr and 2008 for the cbr still unmatched 0 order aids with modern suspension and any braking power/feel you want is up to you and affordable. Weight and power get the nod as well. The bussa is a pig there awesome legends like cafe racers but belong in photo albums and short rides to have fun with classics at events etc.

  • @thematurbo240
    @thematurbo240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Zx10r 2004 and gsxr K5 1000. Pure analog monsters. Have both. Pure madness!

    • @jirimollin8638
      @jirimollin8638 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      K5 not so much, K1/2 is even more analog, loved owning one, but I'm too big to ride one for years, maybe someday, when I have money for two bikes

    • @xDreadheadx
      @xDreadheadx หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 2003 1000k3 its just engine throttle and brakes 😄.

  • @bradsoup6362
    @bradsoup6362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    yooooo love that 1098! that is defiantly a 2000's color to match

  • @JMArm97
    @JMArm97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have to 1098's little brother the 848 and absolutely love it. No ABS, no TC, but still some good features and a nice dash. Great ride and a lot of fun. Just about perfect sport bike for the street if you ask me

  • @xCosmonautical
    @xCosmonautical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can we get "Grundle Panini" put on a shirt? 😂

  • @eksaton
    @eksaton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The graphic is actualy so awesome because it's true. I've sold '09 R1 because it was too much for me on the street and bought '03 954RR in mint condition (lucky bastard) and I've never been happier. I can only imagine how powerful modern bikes are, even if I had finances to buy one of those (RR-R, M1000RR, V4, etc...), I'd still have and "oldie" in my garage. Cheers Yammie and the team, awesome video!

    • @aggroalex5470
      @aggroalex5470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 954's are great fun for the streets and twisties.

  • @propdoctor21564
    @propdoctor21564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I personally like the older bikes without the technology of ABS or traction control that will let you get yourself into trouble if you are stupid enough to push it that far... 😁😁 Just like I prefer the old muscle cars from the 60s and early 70s that had way too much horsepower for the factory tires and suspension so it took a real driver to control one...
    I enjoy a vehicle that not everyone can get in or on and drive. 😱

    • @bernhtp
      @bernhtp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree. Also terribly overrated are fuel injection, tubeless tires, electric starter, electronic ignition, disk brakes, throttle-by-wire, liquid cooling, and even four-stroke engines.
      Bikes like the 1969 Kawasaki H1 500 are far more visceral with drum brakes, tubed tires, points ignition, carburetors, kick starter, two-stroke triple, and everything else that made this the original widowmaker.
      I had one. I have no idea why everyone bought the new technologies as they emerged. Even I succumbed; I ride a 2020 BMW S1000RR that is different from the old H1 in every respect except for having two wheels.

    • @victorandrade7940
      @victorandrade7940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only welcome addition for me was a slipper clutch. If you ever ride aggressive in canyons. The rear tire locks up on downshifts for a fraction of a second. You have to finesse with your shifting.

    • @chillwill7401
      @chillwill7401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen doctor

  • @hellfire08
    @hellfire08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    She’s so scared to twist that throttle 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @MM-iy9wf
    @MM-iy9wf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got the 2005 r1 in red with exhaust under the seats. It was a real pleasure, no traction control, no abs, just pure feeling and very fun. I don’t like all the electronics in the new bike those days.

  • @squidishtendencies1523
    @squidishtendencies1523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Precisely why GSXR has my heart. ZERO RIDER AID. Separates the men from the boys.

  • @dukiemoto8676
    @dukiemoto8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes Yamm, I’m convinced! And in the beginning Whitney’s reaction sounds😂 absolutely loved it!

  • @dannggokies9129
    @dannggokies9129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I laugh when people start talking about traction control and abs… I ride an 06 cbr1000rr with no rider aids whatsoever.

    • @saltnsunshine9127
      @saltnsunshine9127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      05 R1 here, I had this conversation with my buddies earlier today funny enough, his 10r has all the bells and whistles and I'm like "I can track two trips"

    • @dannggokies9129
      @dannggokies9129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saltnsunshine9127 you know the deal….

    • @angrysoybean1012
      @angrysoybean1012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep 2013 was the last without ABS and..........

    • @Totes_ma_Goat
      @Totes_ma_Goat 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I still have my 05 R1 as well. Still holds up in 2024.​@saltnsunshine9127

  • @cachacaczaja
    @cachacaczaja 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just like the transition in you YN from ducati-biscotti to "that thing is awesome dude!". Had 848evo '09 for few years, loved it, it was a playful thing to ride, so I can imagine that this displacement makes it even better. Thumbs up!

  • @lexfrost2670
    @lexfrost2670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS THE OLD BIKE SMELL! Nothing is better than the smell of an old bike

  • @deerealhino69
    @deerealhino69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yammie has a very valid point. However, is it a coincidence that this video instantly went to the Ducati he has been extremely excited to get it 😆

  • @omegared8663
    @omegared8663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I finally got me a motorcycle and after watching so many of your videos it was easy to get the hang of it. Thanks yam. 😎Ride safe brothers

  • @GodfatherGuido7
    @GodfatherGuido7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you guys so much for putting this out there

  • @hunterman600cc
    @hunterman600cc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wifey loves the under seat exhaust... Keeps her butt warm in fall.

    • @fallinginthed33p
      @fallinginthed33p 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a free contraceptive for the guys too, if you like cooked gonads.

  • @kleinbottled79
    @kleinbottled79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How are you guys making me want a Ducati? I DON'T WANT A DUCATI! (I do.)

    • @stubbingtonmarigold3032
      @stubbingtonmarigold3032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will until it needs to eat $$$$ every 1500 miles.

    • @747simmer4
      @747simmer4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stubbingtonmarigold3032always pros and cons

  • @p.c.5290
    @p.c.5290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aww yes. I daily ride a 2004 Aprilia Tuono 1000R and I love it.

    • @carlosmacedo1700
      @carlosmacedo1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man I ride a 2003 RSV Mille and I love everything about it..... well.... 98% of it......heheheheheh

  • @Evaneaser614
    @Evaneaser614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first bike is a 1985 Honda CB700SC and I still love it. Older bikes just have that raw charm to them and I genuinely believe they’re better to start on since you can learn to wrench on them yourself and teach you how to be a good rider without a computer saving your behind.

  • @Rutigar01
    @Rutigar01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s a great application of the supply and demand curve. Way to show us your Econ degree Yammie.

  • @DeanMagarry
    @DeanMagarry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just picked myself up a 2007 CBR 1000. So fun to ride, love the early 2000's

  • @pacopetepnw3434
    @pacopetepnw3434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved ear to ear smile show Team Yam. :D Great job Whit!

  • @samtoshner8002
    @samtoshner8002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching Zack and Arie crush a brand new Ducati with a clapped out K5 GSXR absolutely shattered any preconceived notions about what makes a bike fast.

  • @redm3red
    @redm3red 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun video guys. I love all your reactions to the Duck and how it performs. I have a 2004 E46 M3 and it may not be the fastest car on the road but I love how it drives and the fact that there is no big screen or navigation etc. Same goes for the 1098. It's how it makes you feel every time you ride it. There is something to be said about bikes and cars from the 2000's

    • @chrisbekker9698
      @chrisbekker9698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah man I like totally agree with you on this one! I also drive a 2004 E46 320d M Sport, Sapphire Black and to this day she still turns heads.

  • @ZXChrisR14
    @ZXChrisR14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love a bike with crazy top end and no safety nothing. Just you, the bike and lots of skill.

  • @roadrunner681
    @roadrunner681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly one of my favorite things about my 87 sportster is how raw and rough it is. its slow but fun

  • @seanwoodburn2616
    @seanwoodburn2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My liter bike had character...
    1961 HD Ironhead stroked to 61', welded on hardtail and springer.
    Blued all of the steel, leather bib and walnut veneer for a dash.
    Walnut, Blue Steel and Gun Leather.
    As much as it had character, it built character. Riding it was like riding a jackhammer in heat.
    Cheers!

  • @meds4all
    @meds4all 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every reason you guys touched on is why I love my 1098s. Two issues are the heat you spoke of and the mirrors are useless. Only bike that got close to heat is my TL1000R, my RC51 isn't as hot as the other two. My goal when I got the 1098 was to get as much as I could that didn't have electronics on helping. With that said when you turn the electronics off on the Honda like Geoff May had to to race it because he didn't like the electronics it is still rideable if you have that top 2% skills. If not, never ever turn them off!.

  • @etherjoe505
    @etherjoe505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ! Whitney adds a lot to the crew !!

  • @theTenthlife
    @theTenthlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Grundle Panini."
    So that's a mental image I didn't expect to ever have.

  • @icceman87k50
    @icceman87k50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for not editing those blooper moments, it’s gold.

  • @henrywes2628
    @henrywes2628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couple of reasons I keep my old 2001 R1 in the stable. First I'm afraid to sell it to someone who has grown up with traction control and abs etc. They might end up in a jam because the bike will give what you ask for without holding back. Secondly the throttle response and braking and just every input you make being so exactly what you expect, it is lovely.

    • @mrcojocaru
      @mrcojocaru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Valid points. I went from an MT09 to an MT10, both of which have the tech, to a cbr1000rr, which has nothing. I was a bit scared but so fa I'm managing. I'm having way more fun in the Twisties. I've had it for a week and a half and already put 1k on it.

  • @MotoProtoFlux
    @MotoProtoFlux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a proud owner of a gen 2 zx10r, i love how raw it is. im not sure i could get along with abs and traction control these new bikes come with.

  • @mikepohl2264
    @mikepohl2264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never ridden a modern litre bike to compare but it's like I have no desire too! The pure joy of riding my CBR 954rr FireBlade is what does it for me!👍

  • @ridetheapex
    @ridetheapex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am down with these bikes. My concern is at the exit of a corner just after the Apex. That is the feel that must be acquired through experience.

  • @mattman3495
    @mattman3495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The golden age" minus muffler placement on some bikes. LOL

  • @McQueenFrancis011264
    @McQueenFrancis011264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely fabulous, old school does it again...

  • @parkerwolfgramm415
    @parkerwolfgramm415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love ripping on my 04 fireblade! No TC, no ABS, no slipper clutch. Can’t wait for Barber Motorsports park later this month!

  • @familiasquare2880
    @familiasquare2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a 2005 Ducati ST4S “upgrading” from a 1999 Honda Magna. So when I hear you talking about all the new technology available I keep thinking someday maybe when I’m old. I happen to be one of your infamous 56yr old subscribers. 😃

  • @The.JZA.
    @The.JZA. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad used to have a Suzuki TL1000S with aftermarket cans and it sounded like thunder going down the road. I recently found out that it was nick named the widowmaker because a journalist died while testing it. It had a rotary damper on the rear that could overheat on bumpy roads.

    • @stevethedonful
      @stevethedonful 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I had one of those too.. certainly a bit hairy!

  • @ZoeyCarey
    @ZoeyCarey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are the reasons I bought a 2007 speed triple. No electronic aids not even abs. It’s a blast

  • @guyb3410
    @guyb3410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a 1098 12 months ago. My thought is it is sex on wheels. Termigoshi slip ons pipes make this bike one of the best sounding bikes going around. Everywhere l ride heads turn to look. Love it

  • @kevinganser7895
    @kevinganser7895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just sold my Streetfighter V4 and am looking at an 899 and even an older 749R. Thanks for this video.

  • @noahgreen8610
    @noahgreen8610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We love you yammie

  • @stewybot
    @stewybot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agree 100%. I had a Suzuki SV1000S in the mid 2000s. No rider aids, no abs, not even a fuel gauge 😆. What a great bike though, total visceral hooligan machine and totally reliable, I miss it!

  • @punchbuggyyellow7097
    @punchbuggyyellow7097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Electronics vs experience? I'll take experience every day of the week.
    Manny years ago I once pulled away from the lights & did a huge stoppie in front of a police car that pulled out of the side st to chase a red light runner after I had started to take off. No ABS, no traction control or nanny electronics of any kind. I still remember the shocked look on the police woman's face as she saw me coming towards her, and the huge grin that I had on my face looking down on her with my back wheel up in the air. It's one of many riding moments that I'll never forget, but would never have happened with a modern electronically assisted bike.

    • @Gismo3333
      @Gismo3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You cud do a stoppie with a BMW M1000RR… Have seen it done many times. Max Wrist has it almost as a trademark move. So that is a thing you can do on a new bike.

  • @MrRaniera
    @MrRaniera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ride a VTR1000F which is so much fun. It makes me sad that the world has fallen out of love with V -twin sport bikes. For the road, nothing beats them.

  • @jacquescrusan9500
    @jacquescrusan9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been singing this song for years once I accrued the purchase of my 2014 KTM RC8R. Easily the last great analog superbike, ending in 2015 model year. There's something to be said about prioritizing mechanical tuning rather than electronic tuning, and doubling down on it.
    Ryosuke Takahashi (Initial D) stated something along these lines (can't remember which season, but it *is* at least season 2), and using that as a jumping-off point for research; he's onto something.
    Having a bike where every component piece is designed to work together in mechanical harmony is peak confidence-inspiring; main reason why all 4 of my bikes follow this ideology to a T.

  • @seanbatty2665
    @seanbatty2665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I love the enthusiasm for the 1098……..because I have one……2007! Awesome machine!

  • @NisseBlankendaal
    @NisseBlankendaal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 2009 Ducati 1198s next to my 2016 Monster 1200s and boy do I love the 1198s. The whole feel is so much more pure. But as you guys state, so refined in the power delivery, even though is is much quicker then the monster it doesn't scare me as much as the monster does.... This generation of (Ducati) superbikes for me is the sweet spot!!!

  • @gearblazer
    @gearblazer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she’s a beauty broo. can’t wait to hear the tune on it. also are you leaving the tune pack with the exhaust when it’s given away? i just love looking at her when she pops up

    • @poondart01
      @poondart01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the bike, or whitney?

    • @gearblazer
      @gearblazer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poondart01 the bike all day!!!

  • @cuannell2143
    @cuannell2143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These bikes are beautiful! I love the yellow on that 1098! 😍

  • @mikespencer7241
    @mikespencer7241 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn’t agree more with the topic of this video Yam. I chose an 06 R1 2 years ago when I got back on 2 wheels after a short layover. Lol. I still plan on getting a modern super bike but I’ll never sell my fire breathing, raw machine. I know it doesn’t have 200hp and no fancy dash and stuff but I added a Power commander and changed a gearing a little and added modern sized tires and holy crap! It still gives you the adrenaline shakes after a pull on the highway! And you describing that brutal front end lift with the bars shaking after changing gears. I get that every time I go wide open throttle. I can’t even go full throttle in gears 1-2 because after 10k RPM it just comes off the ground. Hehe. So fun!! Long live mid 2000 super bikes! Hehe.

  • @sarkazym5676
    @sarkazym5676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Part of the reason I enjoy my 04 Daytona 955i so much.

  • @hockeymann88
    @hockeymann88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Drive by cable, no electronic nannys and 160 hp twin? That is sublime. The Ducati Streetfighter version of that superbike has even better ergos.
    I agree with the premise; these 2000s liter bikes are somewhat of a sweet spot for street bikes.

    • @t.krijger7087
      @t.krijger7087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Streetfighter 1098! In black matt...what a great drive, pure naked and even more comfortable due to the upright sit position.
      Also, in the same category the Aprilia Tuono 1000r 2006-2010 must be named. Growling fire spitting big angry things...Man I love these machines.

  • @carlosmacedo1700
    @carlosmacedo1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille.... Man, the feeling compared to the new ones I had the chance to ride is like nothing you can ride this days..... forget about those new bikes.... buy a 2005 GSX-R, a Ducati or a Mille..... spend some money on good tyres, suspension and brakes (only on the GSX-R cause the Mille and Ducatis have Brembos and great suspension) and have fun....

    • @silversoozookee2839
      @silversoozookee2839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Done!
      5+ years and 27,000+ miles
      Currently Supercorsa's and a few months with Dyno tuned flashed and remapped 😍
      Only 125hp at the wheel
      But my 750 keeps me on my toes😁

    • @carlosmacedo1700
      @carlosmacedo1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silversoozookee2839 More than enough my friend. Good rides and stay safe

  • @matthewmontgomery7764
    @matthewmontgomery7764 ปีที่แล้ว

    I plan on getting one of these crazy ones as a first bike cuz deth is my friend!!

  • @davidklementis5913
    @davidklementis5913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they stepped in a relm of understanding that brings them closer to many of us middle age and older folks that like Royal Enfield and other brands like it. I know they don't even compare to a Ducati, which I like as a modern classic pick. For many of us it's not about cutting edge speed and technology, but about the simple and direct mechanical feel of riding a older motorcycle or driving an old car. Modern motorcycle are awesome, but I really appreciate some of the raw feeling some of the new ones strive to keep under mounting regulations. Yes...you can buy a classic, but sometimes it's nice to be able to get that feeling from something you've owned from the start.

  • @ChrisG1392
    @ChrisG1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've been debating this point in my head for a while now. New bikes come with a warranty, guaranteed never abused, have ABS, and some other fringe safety features but they also have electronic throttle valves and lean fueling which I think could hurt their reliability in the long run. The old bikes are bulkier and risk a history of abuse but a lot more pure and raw and you get what you ask for unlike the new bikes which filter everything through a computer. I still haven't decided which is better for me. I think a 3 year warranty would be really nice.

    • @calebsunder
      @calebsunder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The warranty leaves you after 3 years, the character of the old bike will be with you forever, something you won't get bored of or make you feel outdated as newer bikes come by every year with newer technology and faster than before.

    • @thetwowheeledintrovert3367
      @thetwowheeledintrovert3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I faced the same scenario, 04/05 Honda CBR1000RR vs 16 Yamaha R1M both second hand. Decided on the R1M and never looked back. Simple things like a slipper clutch, that the CBR didn’t come stock with, modern suspension, better wheels etc.

    • @ChrisG1392
      @ChrisG1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thetwowheeledintrovert3367 I'm at a similar spot. O6-07 CBR 1000 vs new ZH1 or used 1299S or used cbr1000rrsp. Different prices but I still can't decide

    • @ChrisG1392
      @ChrisG1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calebsunder yeah the only issue is that used Ducatis aren't reliable and there aren't many used bikes that are supercharged. Lot of factors to weigh but I really like the look of the mid 2000s bikes. Kind of the golden era for me.

    • @calebsunder
      @calebsunder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChrisG1392 if you can get a well maintained 848, reliability won't be a huge issue. Of course it'll cost more than a Japanese bike in terms of maintenance, but apart from the desmo service at every 7500 miles, most other things are pretty standard. Of course it's got a riding experience like no other Japanese bike as well.

  • @drewmorg.
    @drewmorg. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen 1098 S's for like $8000 before. What a bargain for such a machine. I test rode the 848 before they officially launched back in 2008 at an event and it was so different from my then new 2007 R6. So much more torque and deceptively fast. The bike leaned over in corners effortlessly and the brakes were amazing. It vibrated so much that when I got back onto my R6 it LITERALLY felt like the motor was off at idle compared to the 848.

  • @toddballard9322
    @toddballard9322 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I had a 748, I went to the Harley dealer to try out a Buell XB9R. After sitting on it in the showroom, I kept the Ducati. The Buell felt way to small. My helmet was in front of the windshield just sitting normally. Can't imagine the Fireblade feels smaller than that.

  • @robtilley9167
    @robtilley9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the very same Ducati as in this video and it was incredible that all the things you guys say and feel about it, I have been saying and feeling since I bought it. Visceral, mechanical, smile inducing, experience. It just wants to gooooo and you had better know what you are doing....or else. lol. So much better than new surgically fast, sanitary robot bikes of today. Thank you for doing this video.

  • @kdan9405
    @kdan9405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome bike the Ducati. As the owner of a 2005 ZX6R, I can relate to the roasting body parts with the under-seat pipes. Mine is not a liter bike, but the acceleration is still very raw since the prior owner geared it down. With a 15,500 redline, it likes to pull hard. More common themes: no ABS, no traction control, no gear indicator (just a neutral light), yada yada yada...

  • @nosebluntbob7124
    @nosebluntbob7124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very happy with my 98 thunderace, great size and still plenty enough horses to have fun especial with no aids.

  • @ZuminaZX
    @ZuminaZX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sorry but the 1098 was barely a footnote compared to the R1, ZX10s, and GSXRs of that era. It was powerful.......for a Ducati.

    • @thetwowheeledintrovert3367
      @thetwowheeledintrovert3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agree. Given the long development time of engines, when they put out this bike, they may have already started development of their V4 engine, as they knew the L twin was nearing the end of its life.

    • @TopDonBarrow
      @TopDonBarrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thetwowheeledintrovert3367 they definitely did. The research was the Ducati Desmocedisi (hope I spelled it right)

    • @thetwowheeledintrovert3367
      @thetwowheeledintrovert3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TopDonBarrow yes of course. Spot on madman.

    • @4Kandlez
      @4Kandlez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess that's why they recently released a new L twin and why Ducati twins have been kicking ass in WSB for decades

  • @EZBlast
    @EZBlast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what I miss in my old 1125CR - 2009 - 2009 AMA Championship winner 1125R - with spec.s very similar to that Duc.

  • @ginge5253
    @ginge5253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most raw bike I owned was a 4c8 r1 with a decat and a map. No abs no traction control no anti wheelie. I dont regret selling it because I had my time on it but christ that was a scary bike sometimes and I test bikes for a living. My current stable is a mapped and returned 99 blackbird, a wr400 supermoto and a cbf 250. Weird mix I know but they genuinely cover all of the bases very well indeed

  • @zachtonndorf1210
    @zachtonndorf1210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I love my carbureted 2001 Suzuki sv650. No where near as fast but all u have is a throttle and brakes

  • @lhurst9550
    @lhurst9550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've ridden a 2006 R1 since 06, test rode a V4s, was not overly impressed.

  • @issenissen7572
    @issenissen7572 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 3 ducatis.
    All of them are old bikes.
    They are SS900ie, ST3S, and 1098S.
    I like the triangular iron frame because it's soft.
    Injection is perfect for regular use.
    Furthermore, I would be excited if it had the Ducati emblem on it.
    I maintain it myself, but every time I maintain it, some parts are replaced with external products.
    This is to increase their reliability.
    I will be riding these bikes as long as I have parts.
    I hope that junk cars in good condition will remain on the market for a long time.
    I might not be interested in a new bike.
    Turn around the mountain pass with some fun.
    Take it easy and go to a cafe a little far away.
    I'm going on a motorcycle trip with my wife.
    I can enjoy all of them on my bike.
    I love Ducati.
    I feel good watching this video.
    I wish you all the best in your endeavors.

  • @DjFreakofNature1
    @DjFreakofNature1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the mid 2000s bikes i have the 09 R1 in raven (black and gold) the first gen with the CP its 90% analog and i love it!!

  • @brianperry
    @brianperry ปีที่แล้ว

    My riding of so called super bikes was much earlier, late seventies, a Moto Guzzi LeMans 850 and a Ducati 900 SS bevel drive. both ''Italian Stallions'', for their time they seemed fast.... hell! they were fun to ride.

  • @romie6466
    @romie6466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this

  • @chababaprojectsservices7158
    @chababaprojectsservices7158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So absolutely amazing, I've got quite long arms about 1.5 inches longer and it makes just for a more comfortable ride on a Agusta F4 or 1098 Duke - Wich I had one

  • @itzyaboybugz
    @itzyaboybugz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 97 ZX7R kept up with a 14’ CBR 100RR last night. At those speeds
    = the rider skill etc

    • @carlosmacedo1700
      @carlosmacedo1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      rider skills .... only explanation..... hehehehehe..... for sure not the bike.

    • @itzyaboybugz
      @itzyaboybugz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carlosmacedo1700 on paper my ZX7R shouldn’t be able to keep up with CBR1000RR. But at 135-140mph . It’s all about how fast you’re willing to go!

  • @kellygrant4964
    @kellygrant4964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started on a 1987 Yamaha fz600. What a great little bike that was. So soooo much fun. But you had to be a "part of the suspension" back then. You didn't use your legs when hitting some bumps well you just didn't want that to happen.

  • @Husabuse
    @Husabuse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve owned one - and was waiting patiently for you to let it loose, and you left me wanting.
    Please let her breathe. She deserves it.

  • @e.j.2578
    @e.j.2578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Pumphrey reference. "MO POWA BABY!"

  • @medina2303
    @medina2303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome content as usual. I always get excited when you guys upload a new video!!!

  • @MotojRides
    @MotojRides 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see you guys road test a Honda cbr 600 f3 from 1997

  • @tjey379
    @tjey379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ha ha ha, old truly is gold, yo don't believe me listen to the hilarious sounds Whitney makes at the beginning of her ride, oh the good old days when you actually took the time to learn how to control your bike instead of relying on robots and micro controllers.

    • @jaytownjunkyardfiles1999
      @jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who is she? Does she have her own channel?

    • @ninjaguysith
      @ninjaguysith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 she's the camera woman and does vlogging every now and then on the channel.

    • @jaytownjunkyardfiles1999
      @jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ninjaguysith She is hilarious with her comments and laughter when riding, need more of her.

  • @rversion3295
    @rversion3295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    let's do the smackdowns betweene 1098 and another new literbike! it must be so interesting.....

  • @ernie548
    @ernie548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My.first bike was 84 900 Ninja. Loved that machine. Then it was more man, skill , and machine. You could feel it all. Now not as much. Traction control, ABS, EFI, etc. Its all good. Motorcycles less than cars or airplanes, we are becoming more system managers than pilots. The advances are nice.

  • @victorandrade7940
    @victorandrade7940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 1st gen 03 CBR600RR. That's a difficult bike to ride. No safety electronics and the back wheel would lock up with aggressive downshifts. I got really good on that bike. Knee dragging on canyons and wheelies exiting corners. That was my peak until I high sided at the track. My body never recovered 100%. lol

  • @Silverwinger82
    @Silverwinger82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've done a lot of demo rides on the newer bikes, but I have only owned one motorcycle newer than early 1980's. Most of them are from the 1970's. So I have never ridden a newer bike long term, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

  • @hazamp
    @hazamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with this video!!

  • @rhysweston9426
    @rhysweston9426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a current owner of a 2007 gsxr 1000 squid missile I completely agree that super bikes peeked in the mid 2000’s. I work at a Yamaha shop and I have had a chance to ride a modern R1 and it just doesn’t give me the same feeling. There is also the cost to performance ratio to consider. As for me I will be smashing my bike until I can’t get parts for it any more and that will be a sad sad day.

  • @travis28716
    @travis28716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Went from a brand new street triple rs to a K5 GSXR1000 and haven’t looked back. Both are good bikes though in their own way.

  • @747simmer4
    @747simmer4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i would argue that the first gen zx10r is as raw as literally bike you can get

  • @JPVegas
    @JPVegas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In these recent 1098 videos it has been mentioned more than once that the 1098 was the biggest and baddest bike offered in 2008.
    Don’t forget that the 2008 R1 had 180hp compared to the 1098’s 160 hp 😉

    • @Danlovestrivium
      @Danlovestrivium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      People that have never ridden a 1098/1198 will never understand the significant difference there is from an inline-4 bike. It's an entirely different world and raw numbers mean absolutely nothing. Don't get me wrong, the R1 was a great bike. But it's just not the same as having all that torque down at 2,000 RPM like the Ducati's have.

  • @stuartdavis5287
    @stuartdavis5287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didn't know Spite's name was Jake.

    • @DeeDee-go2zt
      @DeeDee-go2zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who is Spite?

    • @R1___
      @R1___ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeeDee-go2zt the big dude

    • @stuartdavis5287
      @stuartdavis5287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeeDee-go2zt Spite is the girl

    • @DeeDee-go2zt
      @DeeDee-go2zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The bald squeaky one?

    • @stuartdavis5287
      @stuartdavis5287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DeeDee-go2zt yes that one