Stripped drain plug repair: Time-sert not Helicoil!

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  • This is the best way to repair a stripped drain plug! I haven't found a better way.
    Time-sert M12x1.5 for this 2015 KTM50sx amzn.to/2Lc6daa
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  • @abitoffblacksmithing9985
    @abitoffblacksmithing9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool! I have these brackets for a centrifugal tumbler. The bolts go in and out multiple times a day. Eventually they strip out , which it did. And I have eight brackets with 2 bolts each. I believe this is exactly what I need!!
    Thank you for the video!!

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, these should work good for that.

    • @abitoffblacksmithing9985
      @abitoffblacksmithing9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair sometimes things just work out the way it should! We were gonna helicoil it next week ! Thanks again!

  • @johnboy2727
    @johnboy2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Just got an 04 RMZ250 cheap because it had some issues. Just realized the oil drain plug hole is stripped. I need to do this.

  • @Comm0ut
    @Comm0ut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strongly agree on the Time-Sert and if you want even more rotation resistance keyed inserts are available.

  • @inflato
    @inflato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did my first one on a small Honda Motorcycle and it worked great. However I pulled a sidecover which exposed the backside of the new threads and I found A LOT of shavings in the case mixed with my grease. And I drilled a hole through a oil filter screen that was a half inch from the case. So at least flush out the cases before adding oil. Thanks for the video.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely, a lot of shavings can be made and always have to be cautious about what's on the other side. I did this on a RMZ250 and had to do a lot of flushing to be comfortable.

    • @rancel3198
      @rancel3198 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair how many times do you flush the engine?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rancel3198 I flushed it until I couldn't see any shavings coming out. You can use kerosene and strain it after each flush with a paint filter so you just keep using it over and over until it's good.

  • @enjoythesho1992
    @enjoythesho1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Timeserts are definitely the better choice but if you don't already have a kit they are expensive that's why most people go for the heli core

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are definitely more expensive than a helicoil.

  • @mtburr
    @mtburr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. FYI the "recess/step" in the "top part" you cut starting at 3:30 is called a "counterbore."

  • @christiangil4998
    @christiangil4998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks really helpful! Going through the same.

  • @donalddonaldson7211
    @donalddonaldson7211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. I have a 2005 yz125 in rebuilding and while I have the cases apart I’m repairing the stripped bolt. My dad says to helicoil it but I’m looking for the best possible solution and this looks pretty damn good

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a really repair but it's also expensive. A good heli-coil job will do the trick also. There is also another called E-Z lok which is very good as well.

    • @GabrielSilver-nl6uq
      @GabrielSilver-nl6uq ปีที่แล้ว

      Heli coil sucks on the oil drain plug it’s hard getting all the oil out when u need a oil change

  • @vegasromaniac
    @vegasromaniac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is nice , i already bought one , never used it , maybe one day

  • @coryatcosta2714
    @coryatcosta2714 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great vid! thank you! any idea of size for 2019 Honda CRF 450L?

  • @howdyimjeff
    @howdyimjeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my oil screen thread is stripped (M20 x 1.5), would I need to take the engine off the chassis?

  • @DaKing522RS
    @DaKing522RS ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you buy any chance in the Tri-State area? I need this done on my bike.

  • @eason9115
    @eason9115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On my 13’ crf250r has a weep hole a 1/4” up coming from the side so a time sert would block off that weep hole anyone have any other options? Or helicoil my best bet?

    • @wedemboyz2783
      @wedemboyz2783 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what did you end up using?

  • @daltongammel4072
    @daltongammel4072 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would this fix work on a 06 Honda foreman 500?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As long as you can get straight at the plug I don't see why not.

  • @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA
    @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! Do we need remove hole engine for this? I got same problem today but inside oil filter bolt under the engine

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not as long as you can get to the hole straight on and flush it afterwards.

    • @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA
      @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair aaawh thank you. It was good news ❤🙏🏼 have great day buddy!

  • @M4TT4TT4CK
    @M4TT4TT4CK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the advantage of a timesert over a helicoil? I stripped one of the drain plugs on my ktm 200, and from now on only plan on using the left side plug with magnet

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A time-sert locks into place and is more of a permanent fix for a bolt that will be in and out repeatedly. A helicoil is great for a thread fix for a bolt that stays in place.

  • @jaimeguzman6148
    @jaimeguzman6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was the original size of the bolt? Are you supposed to go up a size. I have a oil pan that uses a m14x1.50 bolt but it the pan itself is stripped. Please help

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't go up a size. You would get it for the stock size M14X1.50 the drill size and tap will be slightly larger to clean out the stripped threads and make room for the Time-sert.

    • @jaimeguzman6148
      @jaimeguzman6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair thanks man. Appreciate it

    • @niccalicious
      @niccalicious 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou guys

    • @diriazi
      @diriazi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair Thank you! This was my question as well. My original size was M14 X 1.5 so I would use the TST-1415C kit. Thanks again.

  • @lukesmeja4662
    @lukesmeja4662 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a vstar 650 with a stripped drain i took it to 2 different shops and they said there was nothing they could do cause there was no more threads do you think this will work or should I just try swapping the engine

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you can get the first tap in this will work. If you can't have a good tig welder weld a nut on there, no reason you need to replace the engine for a stripped drain bolt, there are several options. If there is enough room inside the hole go to a car oil change shop and ask for a stripped drain plug rubber plug insert. They strip drain plugs all the time!

  • @metricOIL
    @metricOIL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What torque are you using with bolt now?? Just tight or still following ft lb specs?

  • @matthewhargroder7187
    @matthewhargroder7187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2022 yz250x with a stripped drain bolt. Thinking about using the time-sert.
    I really don’t want to split the halves if I don’t absolutely need to. Do you think I could install the time-sert and once it’s installed, flush it out from the clutch side like you mentioned in the video?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I did it on a 2009 RMZ250 flushed the heck out of it and it was just fine. Grease the taps to try to catch as much as you can then flush it out.

    • @matthewhargroder7187
      @matthewhargroder7187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TepcoCycleRepairthanks for the speedy reply. My drain bolt is a m12x1.5x15.5mm
      I’m concerned with the length of the thread replacement itself. On time-serts website they offer 13.5mm and 16.2mm long. I’m wondering if you could shine some light on which one I should go with.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@matthewhargroder7187 Ok so your drain bolt may be Long than the case thickness, in any case the end of the time-sert needs to lock into place so i would go with the shorter option. If it's longer than the case it won't be able to secure itself as intended.

  • @RICHARDSHORT2
    @RICHARDSHORT2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What size drill bit was used? Thanks in advance

    • @ShersGarage
      @ShersGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One year too late. Drill bit is specific to that kit. Not just a standard bit.

  • @igotakai5644
    @igotakai5644 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great vid, thanks! For DR650 would it be M14x1.25?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that's the correct size. 14mm x 1.25. Thanks for the comment!

    • @igotakai5644
      @igotakai5644 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair Thank you!

  • @andrewcarter215
    @andrewcarter215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On timeserts website it says, “if using for drain bolt use kit 1215C” rather than kit 1215. Is 1215C the one I should purchase? Or is 1215 the way to go? Thanks!

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The C comes with a tap guide to be sure it stays straight to prevent leaks.

    • @andrewcarter215
      @andrewcarter215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair awesome, thanks for the video! Made me feel comfortable enough to save some cash and not go to a shop with it.

  • @mranonymous7713
    @mranonymous7713 ปีที่แล้ว

    i appreciate the awesome tutorial i recently stripped my oil drain threads on my bike and its been really frustrating but after seeing your vid im gonna by this kit and fix it. BTW i have 2 questions 1 being does this drill out a whole and then inserts the original size of the plug back into the pan. and 2 would be if you were to say how much toque these fittings can take rather then my dogshit 18 ftlb drain plug that i stripped out....anyways thank you so much and i hope to get a reply.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it will bring it back to the standard size and it will be stronger than your stock threads. Normal torque will be no issue.

    • @mranonymous7713
      @mranonymous7713 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair thanks for the confirmation. I have 2 last questions what drill did you use for this bits and I saw that you used a t handle to insert the tap and the time sirt threads. Instead of that t handle can I just use a socket wrench instead?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mranonymous7713 The drill bilmis a special bit that comes with the kit, you have to use that drill bit. It has a recess for the timesert to sit in. As far as the tap, whatever you have to send it in straight.

    • @mranonymous7713
      @mranonymous7713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TepcoCycleRepair ayyy I just got the money to buy the kit and I saw you reply to someone the other day about getting shaving in the pan which doesn’t sound good at all so I’m just wondering if I can just flush out all the shavings by just running a gallon or two through the fill cap. That’s a good way I’ll use as much oil as needed to save my components from getting destroyed, and I’ll even do a heat short heat cycle and drain it and replace the filter after. Just tell me if I’m being overkill or what you recommend in the case of getting shavings in the pan

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mranonymous7713 So there is a couple things you can do to reduce the amount of shavings. Put grease on your bits and taps to catch as much as you can. When you are done flush it with kerosene, you can drain it through a paint strainer and reuse it until nothing comes out. Then new filter/oil heat cycle and drain. Remember it's aluminum shavings they are soft and if you miss one or two they will get chewed up and stick to the filter. Get the right size kit they come in different lengths.

  • @antonyamb2118
    @antonyamb2118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do i know which kit i need? My stock drain plug in m10 x 1.5mm. do i get that kit?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, you get the kit for the size bolt you will be using. They also make a deep or shallow, get the shallow for a drain plug.

    • @antonyamb2118
      @antonyamb2118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair thanks!

  • @jameswatkins555
    @jameswatkins555 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's called a countersink tool.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that's it thanks!

    • @miningwayne935
      @miningwayne935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NO, it's counterbore....countersink has a taper at the top!

  • @coltandent4599
    @coltandent4599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you know which size kit to get I need one for a 2022 ktm 125sx clutch side oil drain hole?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You go by the original bolt size, then length based on the wall thickness. Are you talking about the check bolt hole? I don't know of a drain bolt on the right side. I would use a helicoil for the check bolt.

    • @coltandent4599
      @coltandent4599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair so on the new 125s there is a the drain plug on the left side(non clutch side) with the magnetic bolt plug then on the left there is another plug, when you change the oil do you only change one?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coltandent4599 Usually only the left. Unless they made a change I'm not familiar with a right side plug. I haven't worked on a 22 but have access to a few I'll check it out, thanks for the heads up.

    • @donalddonaldson7211
      @donalddonaldson7211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair it sounds like the check bolt, my YZs have them

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donalddonaldson7211 The KTM check bolt is on the right side, strips like it was made of butter.

  • @user-pr3nm3jc1v
    @user-pr3nm3jc1v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rough way to drill out the thread. The way shown is DIY. There is no guarantee that ALL the debris is flushed out.The sump should be separated from the crank-case.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are correct but this would require a complete engine tear down and case split because there is no sump. This is a two-stroke so this drain plug is only for the gearbox not for the actual engine/crank.

  • @erickennedy3932
    @erickennedy3932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do u have to sell

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No I don't, I just got what I needed from a fellow mechanic.

  • @jakeflagg1401
    @jakeflagg1401 ปีที่แล้ว

    If ur tap and die why not just use new bolt

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      This brings it back to the stock size and is stronger than stock.

  • @007rockford
    @007rockford 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All good...but $115 for that tool kit doesn't make sense...

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it's expensive, find someone that has the kit and borrow it for the day.

    • @sscbkr48
      @sscbkr48 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TepcoCycleRepair $115 is a deal! 400 bucks in BC. I've got a stripped SP thread on a ct90. I'll probably take the head to a shop.

  • @yeomansLdote
    @yeomansLdote ปีที่แล้ว

    Mate you pay for wot you get in my eyes. heli coils always fail these are one time fix

  • @Lynchy87
    @Lynchy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m being charged £600 for a new oil pan because I stripped it, Am i being ripped off?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it's part of the case not just an oil pan so not bad.

    • @Lynchy87
      @Lynchy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair now I can sleep I thought I was being scammed lol! Just gotta wait 8 weeks for it to arrive from China for them to change it for me 😞

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lynchy87 From China? What kind of bike is it?

    • @Lynchy87
      @Lynchy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair its a Sym Orbit 125 Euro 5

    • @user-jy9be8tu6i
      @user-jy9be8tu6i 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lynchy87man that a waste of time you find these kits every where I broke mine yesterday and got fixed in 3days Amazon even has it

  • @Imwright720
    @Imwright720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching you drill I lost all faith in you.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, yeah that looked rough with the dead battery. No worries I was watching it closely, it's still holding strong!

    • @erickennedy3932
      @erickennedy3932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TepcoCycleRepair I try the link they dont have any right now ...my plug is slack I wrapped it with thread tape but it's not tight