Momentum 3 Wireless - REVIEW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2021
- In this video I review the Sennheiser momentum 3 wireless. A surprisingly detailed wireless headphone with a few quirks. How does it stack up against the competition?
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i'm using the momentum 3 for half a year now and i have not encountered those software problems....
+1
Of course, theres always someone with no issues
Same, really surprising to hear about so many bugs
Same
agreed. they've been great so far
yoooo 3 minutes in and i already feel you gave me more information than most of the videos on these headphones
I’ve had mine for 8 months and I have loved them. I haven’t experienced any of the software bugs you were talking about.
Excellent review - You are a true professional, I have these headphones myself and you nailed everything that I thought about these headphones!! You really know your stuff - Great review video, I'm definitely subscribing to your channel.
I did a "after 6 months" review on these headphones on my channel. I love them! never had the software issue.
Love that you mention that the EQ settings stay on the headset. I tried 7 other headsets and kept these because of their sound quality and that you can keep the EQ settings while using them wired. The XM4, etc, are basically unusable when wired because of their overdriven, muddy bass. However, I do disagree on the soundstage. I use -6/0/0 EQ settings, and these have a soundstage better than EVERY single wireless and closed back headphones I've tried, and honestly rivals some of the open-back headphones. Try listening to "Sessions at the 17th ward" with these and compare to other cans and tell me what you think about soundstage.
exactly....i had the xb950n1s as my portable/bass cans. Those ACTUALLY worked duel driven with 3.5mm and the included amp....IMO the last generation that sony had this usability. I could crank down bass in the app first/step via BT or tune the HP to a specific genre....then plug into my schiit stack and ENJOY full depth/range/staging w.o distortion that the 900/910 x series had presented when connected directly to my LG G8x quad dac....in a Best buy demo/comparison seeing as my 950n1s swivel snapped TERRIBLE AF Design might i add...had gotten the bass cans for 119$ liquidated and had a replacement plan IRONICALLY the 900N were 300$ box price. And largely terrible when actually driven with an external device by comparison. The xm3/xm4 offered a sound signature closer to what the xb950n1 were capable of when properly eq/driven. Generally off pure BT it was somewhat negligible between both XB 950n1 and 900...as XB/bass cans...the HIGH RES X series largely won out and should based on better drivers/price point etc. EVER since ive YET to replace what the XB950n1 had brought to the table. Good staging/resolution/bass...and
Good video quality as always, keep it up!
Man can’t thank you enough for doing this review! I was hoping you’d do it because it’s YOU! Honestly I’ve become a fan! I have these and I love the silky smooth sound they offer. The bass can be reduced for those who don’t like it by dragging the slider down towards the bottom right on the X axis in the app. After that the sound is just luscious. I have an aversion towards headphones that are too sibilant. The Bowers and Wilkins PX7 and the AirPods max both get fatiguing after a while because they have really bright highs. The Sony XM4 have that warm sound that makes listening to music on them easy. The Sennheiser Momentum 3 take that a notch above by being bassy and neutral without the excessive warmth that often makes the bass bleed into the mids.
Wow XM4 might be the worst anc headphone I’ve ever heard.
@@mikecast20 me 2
So the momentum 3 wireless are best used when wired, hmmmm ironic.
@@AndyBonitz tell that to ya Boi the drop THX pandas
@@AndyBonitz No, that's not true. Actually very rarely.
@@poltem1 you cant avoid bluetooth compression no matter what are you using. We need something better than bluetooth in 2021..
@@theSeventhDruid the easiest way is to have ur phone stream audio to headphones directly over wifi. solves Bluetooth compression but even more finicky. Companies don't really have the motivation to do it tho.
@@AndyBonitz not bose
Thanks for review.
In order to fix this auto mute on and off bug you need to calibrate the feature in the app. This thing happened to me but after calibration never appeared again.
Though I do find that the third ANC mode called relaxed or smth do has the most cabin pressure, the Max mode has close to none compared to QC35 II or XM4.
You mentioned that the EQ settings only apply if you using them wireless only with ANC or transparency mode on? Uhmm.. I think I am missing something because it works as well with ANC turned off
Honestly if they can figure out the software quirks, this sounds like a nice dual purpose/transportable kinda deal to me - having a wireless headphone that's also good wired and circumvents a laptop or tablet's inbuilt amp is such a big value add. But just how do these kinds of bugs happen, that's so odd..
How is the latency in both wireless and type C? Seeing how using True Wireless models with a gaming setup is pretty much impossible/a bad experience, I think that's a nice possible benefit also with this that those kinds of solutions don't offer - hardly any wireless headphone can also be your only headphone, but this just might.
For me the software quirks haven't been as bad. I've had the on ear detection pause music on me sometimes from turning my head or something but usually either turning the feature on and off or just turning the headphone on and off will fix it. It recalibrates the sensor every time it's powered on so it helps to wait 5 or 6 seconds before putting them on. I think it's mainly just a little finnicky about how it's placed on the ear. But usually it works as intended for me. My biggest annoyance is probably with the multi device pairing (which is great to have I love it) but the way it works is it a bit annoying. If I'm watching a video on my laptop and try to scroll twitter on my phone if I pass any video on Twitter it'll pause the youtube video on the laptop because it thinks you're trying to play from the phone. and vice versa with the laptop when playing through the phone. But that's a bit easier to work around as you can just mute your twitter tab on a laptop to keep it from interrupting the phone. The convenience of being connected to two devices at once is worth dealing with the annoying bits of the implementation though!
As far as latency goes, it's perfect with videos as far as my eyes can tell (wirelessly and USB C). I haven't been able to test it with gaming, however. I mainly play games on PS4 and sony doesn't let you connect any bluetooth headphones that aren't their own bluetooth gaming headsets specifically. Without using a bluetooth adapter out of the ps4 controller headphone jack. Which I don't have to test out unfortunately
there’s no latency over jack, I haven’t tried the usb-c connection tho
Same question especialy if there is any lag for gaming with that aptx
After geting them as a gift for birthday (a week prior christmas) and using them a lot, i can say that the problem with the software is with the sensor giving false positives, if i'm on the desk and don't move the head a lot it never pauses, but on the go or in a more active stance the movement of the earcups arround will make the headset pause, i'd deactivated the autopause setting completely for now.
In other news, the sound is superb in both wired modes (taking in account the source) i'm quite happy with them finding to be a great upgrade from my "great sounding but not for the go or outside my house" AKG K240 MKII and Bose Soundtrue among other headphones i have.
I'm quite sensitive to latency, but I must say that the Momentum 3 using aptX-LL work absolutely fine for gaming. So far I have used USB-C only for music, but I just did a quick test and-as expected-found no latency problems with that either, but it might be possible to get some line noise in this mode, e.g. when using a hub with a noisy power supply, so it might be best to connect them directly to your computer.
I also have the Momentum TWS (the first version), which support aptX-LL too, and work fine for gaming. Sennheiser dropped support for LL in the Momentum TWS 2, so don't buy them for gaming, though in other aspects they should be better than the MTW1.
On my PC I'm using the Avantree Leaf (also known as Avantree DG50) to get aptX-LL output.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one that found the anti pressure setting to have the most pressure by far haha! Was slightly concerned mine might have been not working quite right since I bought them used
Comfort counts! Great video. #MomApproved❤️
I would love to see an updated Airpods Pro video discussing the EQ Settings in the iPhone that you discussed on the Airpods Pro Max, I don't see any other video's or articles talking about it for the Airpods Pro, but they make a huge difference.
love my sennheisers .thanks for the video
very good and clear , well balanced review . good job
Bloody excellent review mate. Thanks very much. These cans will compliment my Sennheiser 598s nicely.
I like these even more than the 598 and 599
@@imabeliever85 Agreed actually but only because of their built-in DAC.
I`d love to see a review of the DALI IO-6/IO-4.
Half the reason I like this channel so much is the sane video lengths.
The other reviewers who spend 20, 30, or even 40 minutes talking about one headphone is just pure verbosity, or narcism.
That’s the importance of scripting and editing, to make things concise and get the point across in a structured presentation.
Z reviews are not just reviews, they give an interactive funny experience
You are a TH-cam siskel and ebert 😂
I could really user your opinion on the Shure Aonic 50. I'm considering on getting those but I'm hesitant on buying it. Great review btw. I might consider these if I don't make up my mind soon.
Great video. I think you covered this one better than Josh. Stayed at the consumer level. Excellent.
I have these, and I agree with most of what you are saying. However I think they sound decidedly better, no contest, compared to bose or sony. I'll mention though that I also picked up some Sennheiser GSP 670s. I was surprised that (to my ears) they have a far more neutral and detailed sound, in addition to working via bluetooth in addition to the dongle. So on phone calls, by GSP 670 is drastically better than momentum due to the boom mic, and it has a much better wireless connection than bluetooth, when connecting via the dongle to the computer. The 670 has completely replaced my momentums.
Thanks for the review, love your work. So if you were buying these OR the APM just for sound quality which would you pick? Thanks
Best review so far
:o I have them for about 4 months and haven't encountered any of the problems you mention. I've made and recieved numerous phone calls and they only bug out when i am far away from my phone, not before. Nice review tho
Hi, I actually had the same problem with the pauses with these headphones, and I found that the main reason for it was the weird sensor positioning to my ear. After I disabled automatic pause everything working properly.
got this prob with the PXC 550 and driving me nuts! i will try your solution(disabling the auto pause)
Had this too. Try to wait 5 sec when u turn them on (until the light goes blue).
Apparently it gives them the time to calibrate. When I do that it works perfectly, doesn't matter which weird movement I do with my head.
Really like your reviews. Can I request a video for a review and suggestions for an all purpose wireless Headphones. Pair or headphones, you can use when you want to shun out the noise in the office or at home, etc. Also if you want to use the same for jogging or any other cardio exercise. Use for phone calls, etc. Some ranked suggestion of stuff that's out there or some even may be expected in the future.
Glad this version has the option to turn off anc..
If you're on a wireless kick any chance you'll check out the Grado GW100's?
These might be something that are best for office. Closed back. Can be wireless for conference calls, or plug em in for lossless audio, and i can take them on a trip.
Or if i don't like the internal dac use an external one.
Yes they sound "closed" but what else can you do in an office ? Open back just doesn't work.
Damn, I've never heard of anyone with those software problema, I've been using them for over a year without any problems.
Looks better than those AirPods Pro Max to me!! Excellent review like always DMS!!
Any chance of an update now that Sennheiser released a "High-End" sound profile?
8:24 Maaan, I also love pads on my not announced yet Momentum True Wireless 3 :D
I’ll do a search. But wondering how these compare/what you think of the Shure Aonic 50 headphones. I’m trying them out, and one site says that the Aonic 50s are the best ANC wireless headphone with type-C capabilities. So many headphones/opinions on the Internet, it really does get overwhelming! 🙂
Thanks for your detailed reviews on this technology!
That would be a great video idea: the best USB-C headphones that you can plug straight into a phone.
FeelsBadMan to hear, been using them since october 2019 and never had any of the software problems you had
you spend a lot of time on twitch too huh 😂
@@olentor I live there basically.
@Ha Ha The convenience i loose from the cable weighs more than the sound quality i could gain with these headphones. I use them mainly to drown out the noises from public transport and the people around me tho.
Please do a review on Sennheiser PXC 550-II, especially the sound quality with and w/o ANC over Bluetooth, and is possible with wired ANC on/off over 3.5mm; I know they will not compare to HD 58x, but very much curious on your thoughts, and how it then stacks up against Momentum 3 Wireless. Thanks!
Your review videos are awesome. Did you also review the Sony wh-1000xm4?
Try putting them on your after the headphone says connected to your phone. Then the wear Sensor works perfectly
I found a way to correct the mute during a call issue. When you first pull the M3's out and unfold them, you have to sit them on a flat surface for about 5 to 10 seconds then you can pick them up and use them and it will not act up, or mute during a call. Something to do with the M3's when they boot up, like they are calibrating the sensor when you open them for the vertical vs horizontal orientation.
As expected, DMS pulls out the ubiquitous Momentum TW2..
It's time for DMS to know about the Devialet Gemini (after they fix its bugs with connection, of course).
Love my Momentum 2 wired, they sound like portable 6xx’s -What’s not to like?
Can you review New York City’s own Master and Dynamic MW65? Perhaps a great competition to Apple AirPod MAX. Great review nevertheless.👌
I have the Shure ionic 50 and they are the closet I’ve found to a good wired headphone.
@DMS Hi. These headphones got the "High-end sound tuning" option with recent Smart Control app update - how do they sound with that mode on in your opinion? They have lowered both lows and highs it seems, so they should be less V-shaped.
thx man, I just found it out because of your comment!
The high end tuning sounds terrific
What would you suggest for both a close back and open for a Bluetooth headset for the best audio quality ? It doesn’t have to have anc and all of that.
I bought these around 2-3 months ago. I really like the sound and the looks. If im just sitting around the comfort for me is also great but personaly the clamping force is not high enough. If i am doing something like picking up stuff or sitting up to fast i get worried that they are gonna slide off never happened to me before but the feeling is there. There is just one thing that drives me insane, if you have ANC disabled and you stop the music you hear a tiny little squeaky noise in the right cup, bottom right, like a sensor adjusting, dont know what it is, cant find it online maybe i just had bad luck with the unit (Problem is gone when i turn on ANC). I didnt have the problems that you described with the software. Overall i really like them.
What do you think about these vs the Pandas ?
props for retro keyboard
Looking forward to the THX AAA One review :)
lol
Please, review the Bang & Olufsen H95. Lining them up as my next purchase, and there aren’t many reviews. Thanks!
Not a lot of reviews because youtubers and reviewers aren't getting it for free or hands on
Over the past month I have purchased and listened to several noise canceling headphones (Bose 700, Sony XM4, Apple Airpods Max, and Sennheiser M3). Last week I stopped by the Bang Olufsen store to listen to the H95's. For $800 I was not blown away by the sound, however they did sound clear, bright, and with good bass. For me personally I liked the sound but not at the $800 price point. I would say they are equal or a tad better to the Airpods Max for sound quality. Getting the B&O app to work with my iPhone in the store was time consuming and the app was having a hard time connecting with the B&O H95's, eventually after approx. 20 minutes I could use the app to adjust the EQ settings to my likening.
I have since returned the Airpods Max and Bose 700. I now have the Sony XM4 and Sennheiser M3's, I just bought the M3's yesterday at my local Best Buy Magnolia and they were on sale for $349 (sale ended yesterday). After a short listening to the M3's, I prefer the sound of the M3's over the XM4's. I just can not adjust the XM4's EQ to my likening, they sound dull no matter what I do with the EQ. So it looks like I will be returning the XM4's this week.
I will only be using these headphones around the house and in the back yard to listen to music. Sound quality was my priority above all the other functions. I like the buttons on the M3's over the swiping function of the XM4's and Bose 700.
It did take about 25 minutes to complete the firmware update on the M3's but I have not experienced and issues with them. I am also using the XM3's connected to my Windows PC via Bluetooth and they are working great so I don't disturb my wife of 34 years, happy wife happy life.
Sound quality is very subjective to each person, but I would say the I preferred the sound quality of the Apple Airpods Max ($549), B&O H95 ($800), and Sennheiser M3's ($400) over the Sony XM4's and Bose 700. If possible I would visit a B&O dealer if possible and give the H95's a listen.
Do they sound the same when used with an adapter (Lightning to USB-C adapter) or only with type c to type c
Just wondering as I’m not that upto speed with connections. If you have an iPhone 11 and wanted to use them with a cable is that over type C? Or would it activate the DAC? Thanks!
DMS you should try them with a jack cable and turned off by holding down the play / pause key for about 5 seconds, because listening via USB is really good,that's ok, but after then you will be really surprised what a detailed and open sound they can produce 😉
If I was having trouble with the software I would have checked out a few other reviews to see if it was just me and then sorted that before the review 'cos really you picking on stuff most of us don't have issues with. I'm a bit bewildered you've over 700 likes for this.
I did, I asked a handful of other tech publications and looked up the issues I’ve had. Seems they’re common enough, though I’m sure not everyone has these problems.
So if it was a choice of having to you one or the other for audio quality one wireless and two type c connected, and eq’d theses or AirPod Max?
Do you think that this in type C mode competes with other closebacks sound quality wise? I don’t mind going wired for Noise canceling.
I had to turn off the feature where it pauses when you take it off. It's too sensitive.
Once that feature was turned off, I had no issues.
Hey dms what song do you use in our outros it's always a bop
I like these a lot but my headband has very little friction when adjusting and it’s difficult to get a fixed fit on my head. The ear cups just slide back and forth. Am I the only one?
You mention the USB C wired, but how are they with the 3.5mm jack? I want to be able to use these on my PS5, PC, edrums, etc, with the 3.5mm jack (not USB C). Do the EQ setting stay on the headset when using it for wired 3.5mm jack? The Jabra 85h do, but the Sony Xm4 dont, which sound like crap when wired up, just muddy base. Think I would like these more than the Jabra 85h? My #1 requirements are neutral sound quality (and sound stage is nice) and ANC is an important bonus for working from home in a noisy home. Thanks!
Something I have noticed after about a month is, that when unplugging the USB C cable from the phone, it will completely brick my phone for about 30 seconds. Though interestingly this only happens when the screen is turned off. This will also permanently screw up the phone's performance until I reboot it. Apart from that they have been great.
Can you listen to these from type-c to lightning?
Is that an Unicomp model M in the background she is using? If so, nice choice
i'd be interested in your take on the beyerdynamic lagoon anc
So momentum 3 wireless is good enough for music and gaming fps as well instead of gaming headphone with such a bad sound or iem with the same price range ?
I haven't experienced any software issues you mentioned. So not sure what's going on in your case. Try doing a factory reset. I am perfectly happy with mine. I returned my AirPods Max as these sound way better than AirPods Max.
Also, I love Momentum TW2 to the bottom of my heart. I love their soundstage so much that I ended up getting their anniversary edition which is black.... every night before sleeping I use MTW2 and just pure listening pleasure. I keep the EQ flat, and have high-end sound tuning turned on for exceptional audio reproduction.
For serious listening, I use IE 800 S and HD 820 paired with HDVD820 balanced connection and also with Pioneer SC-09TX. For movies and other occasional listening Momentum 3 wireless and TW2 when I am outside, commuting or in bed before sleeping.
Would you confirm on what DMS is saying about the MTW 2 and the M3? Do they really have similar sound or does the M3 have much more to offer? I'm tempted to buy the M3 but if their sound isn't that much better than my MTW 2 then it's not worth.
Wasent an iPhone by chance was it, the bt on my iPhones does strange thing to multi connect, worst I’ve had is the Bose 700, so bad I gave up. So USBC connected and wireless, purely on sound do these in your experience come close to the Drop Pandas. I do like the Momentum 2 buds but prefer my Technics AZ70’s, just personal taste.
I'm not sure what he tested on, but he does have a iphone.
For Bluetooth tested with an iPhone, Android phone, and my laptop.
cool video! also what noise deadening panels are you using?
These are not noise deadening panels, just decorative panels, you can find them easily by typing 3D wall panel on Amazon. But unfortunately the black version seems to be out of stock. And this, for a while now
Do you have any thoughts on B&W PX7? They have the same function with USB C as wired headphones. I wonder how PX7 sounds compare to Momentum 3with USB 3.
Had them before my AirPods and I liked them. They are ugly but has an OK build. Sounds great. Packs up neatly. Ease of use is terrible though, as is ANC and transparency mode. Software in general kinda sucks. They are cheap now however so I still think they're a good buy.
Can you review the soundcore life q30?
im about to upgrade my headphones and im stuck between these and the bowers and wilkins px7.
Would this headphones benefit from having an wired Dragonfly Red Dac/Amp hooked up to them from an iphone 12 streaming lossless audio from Apple Music?
So I am using the HD598cs as an outdoor Headphone atm. Would these be an upgrade in Soundquality compared to those?
Yeah
If I got a lightning to USB C cable would I be able to plug directly from my iPhone 11 to the headphones?
It is way more attractive than most wireless ANC headphones including the Apple headphone. It looks like it can survive the regular knocks and bumps devices like that are subjected to in normal use. Strange to have software bugs on such a simple bit of tech. I wonder if you can set it to vibrate with the bass on your music.
They look great and Sennheiser usually also sound great. I like the product overwall.
Momentum 3 Wireless Vs. AKG N700NC M2? Which one in terms of Sound?
Its 2021 headphone companies should really develop self contained headphones that have their own dac/amp. Thay can pack those in isb size dongles why not in a headphone
Did you update the headphones to the latest firmware? I don't have any of these software issues and I just got mine a month ago.
Yes
Thank you what’s best headphones for travelling ? Bose or Seinheisers ?
Bose QC35II. Out of everything on the market, that's what I always travel with.
I wanna see Zoes Pantera/Z reviews shred on these
Wired active noise cancelling, huh? All my wired headphones have active noise cancelling. (*turns up the volume*)
But jokes aside it would be interesting to look at this as a dual-purpose product. Comparing its sound quality wired to other wired headphones with and without ANC (can it do wired no-ANC?) while having the added perk of being able to go wireless plus ANC by just unplucking the cable. The added versatility might be a powerful but overlooked selling point if it sounds good relative to other wired headphones at the same price range.
Can any headphone beneffit out of the type c trick? Wireless of course
Please review gold planar gl2000. By the way Great review👍
Yes please!!
Welcome to the hype train toot toot!
Lol can’t wait for it
@@Gelatinmitril me too. Very interesting headphone.
Though I already bought the GL2000, still waiting for them to get shipped, I definitely want to see his perspective on them.
I have spent the entire last several videos exclusively paying attention to what she is doing on the PC in the back
I never know what she is doing back there. MOM... the meatloaf!
Please review the bowers and wilkins px7
Does USB C to Lightning Cable work too?
Better than QC 35 in comfort?
Is she using a Model-M keyboard in the background?
do you know where can ı change my headband of my momentum 3 wireless (maybe accesories to put over headband). please help me because ı want to listen music more than 20 min.
This review is great, but how about I ignore that and ask you to review **insert overhyped midfi headphone here** on all of your videos?
There seems to be some distortion in the right channel with this vid, anyone else picking up on it?
What kind of keyboard is the lady using in the background? Looks like we have some vintage beige going on.
Odd because the video is mono.
She’s using a unicomp buckling spring keyboard.
Can you use it on an iphone with a lighting to type c cable?
Did you ever find out this is possible?
One thing to note about the USB-C mode, it doesn't work with Macs. The DAC isn't recognized by Catalina at least, I haven't tried Big Sur yet.
Actually a MacBook Pro is what I was using it with over USB-C.
@@DMS3TV With Big Sur?
@@_benjimouse_ yeah
@@DMS3TV Cool thanks, will have to upgrade the work laptop tonight! :)
No problems with my catalina
Can i use them for Windows (PC)?
what can you say about momentuum 4?
Who is that person in the background - is that an IBM PS/2 Keyboard?
Looks like a IBM Model M keyboard, yes.
Hi!I have a quick question.Does really AirPods Max sound wirelessly better than Momentum 3? Thank you for your answer.
M3 is much better sounding