How to get DJI O3 OSD, mounting the air unit, and lots of other tips if you just bought this!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2022
- Yes the DJI O3 air unit is expensive, and yes it will make you feel like the king of the bando....but these tips for new DJI 03 system owners might save you some royal time! I have compiled a list of my top tips for this new video link including topics like getting your MSP OSD working, mounting the VTX, power considerations, and the trade offs of camera protection and frame rates. If you just threw your wad of cash at DJI for this thing, watch this first!
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The build for this video:
Quadmula Siren F3 Split
Emax Eco II 2004 3000kv Motors
Skystars F722 HD Pro flight controller
Skystars KM55A 55 amp BLheli32 ESC
Runcam Link DJI VTX and Wasp camera
GNB 550mah 6S
HQ 3.1x3x4 props
My other gear:
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Radiomaster AG01 Gimbals
Thumb Grippies Pinch Sticks
DJI Goggles V2
iFlight Crystal DJI patch antenna
TrueRC Singularity omni antennas
Happymodel 2.4G ELRS Pro Module
FPV footage filmed on RunCam 5 Orange with no stabilization
4K XV with correction / 30fps - กีฬา
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Awesome video once again, BN! I was just pondering this very conundrum and here you are! Thanks so much for what you do for our community. 🙏👍
Thank YOU so much for checking it out! I really appreciate you :)
Thanks to this video I got my OSD working with my DJI03 air unit. Thanks so much for the help, keep making great content!
awesome! I am so glad it helped you out :) I appreciate you watching.
Thank you so much for this video! You saved me from smoking my air unit! Using T-Motor F45A x Minin F7 with DJI 03 Air unit. I almost plugged in trusting the wire harness sent to me with the T motor stack was correct. I double checked the wiring after watching this video, and sure enough it was backwards. I had to reorder the pins as you mentioned. You the man!! I also planned on using the DJI FPV controller, with the 03 unit, but am now reconsidering just buying another crossfire receiver and using my Zorro instead. Thanks again! I assumed the DJI controller would work with the 03 air unit as good as it does with the DJI FPV drone. Maybe not.
those backwards pinouts can really sneak up on you with the O3 system! The Controller 2 and O3 got an update recently which fixes most of the issues if you are still wanting to try it out...but personally I am sticking to radio protocols that I know never drop my quad out of the sky just to be safe, lol.
Your videos are awesome! I would say the last 4 times I needed to learn something it came from you including ELRS!
Thank you!! I am just glad I could help :)
Thank you for making these videos! Keep it up! 🚀
Thank you for checking them out! I appreciate you!
Thank you so freaking much, you're awesome bud!!!!!
My man! Just got the o3 air unit; and this helped with getting the OSD on. Thanks!!
You are very welcome!! Just happy to hear you got it going. I really hope you like it because it is pretty darn awesome.
@@BaconNinjaFPV Still using analog for my freestyle; but damn the o3 is good! Waiting for my the HDZ goggles.
Exactly what I was looking for thank you so much
you are very welcome!!!
1:55 IM OFFENDED…. That this video isn’t getting more views cuz you share some very good and much needed info.
I just got the o3 and integra for a cinewhoop build and I appreciate you putting this video together :)
Got mine yesterday, I started installing it in a aos 3.5
Pin out is why I found this content. Nice job bro. I'm Nervous about jello though. I haven't got it run yet. Getting up early. Thanks again for your help and dji 03 content
Gonna make a nice rig on an AOS 3.5! I have on in a 3" quad and it is by far my favorite implementation of the O3 system thus far.
Thank you for making this video man. I just got my 03 last night and am installing today. So much help. Ps I hate sparkling water, my wife drinks nothing but sparkling water lol
you are very welcome! I bet you are really going to like running the 03, I sure know I do. And yeah, sparkling water is only good for pouring down the drain, lol.
Thanks for the info!!💥💥💥
you are very very welcome!
Thanks for the info!
you are very welcome!
That was another great video bro, great explanation, keep it coming bro👍🏻be safe and a happy new year friend
I always appreciate you so much buddy! I really do mean it :)
Thanks!
Thank you.
You are very welcome!
I learned something today! 😄
Great video men thank u.
You are very welcome!!
I plan to install an 03 Air Unit in my Bee35 build. Thanks for the tips. I've already purchased the Integra goggles that I plan to use with the 03. I like sparkling water as long as it's 1:1 bourbon...🤔🤭 Happy flying amigo. 🍻
Great info. My 03 is officially on the way. Also I couldn't help but notice your collection in the background getting bigger almost daily. You seem to have the same obsession i have lol
lol, some call it an obsession.....some call it "a serious threat to your financial wellbeing" ...potato tomato
@@BaconNinjaFPV i know what you mean. I made the fatal mistake of keeping track of every red cent on anything FPV related for 26 months into this hobby now. I won't get into the specifics here but Im leaning towards the 20k mark
Great video bro. 🤘🏻I also hate sparkling water 😂 keep up the good work. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year 🎈🎊
Thank you man! #bubblesarentreal for life, lol. Merry Christmas and happy new year to you as well!
12:17 DUUUUDE ...thank you so much!!! was trying to get my OSD working on my first own build and cant. i had set it to MSP+displayport already but was wondering why its not showing, totally forgot the "save" in the CLI part, now its working :D
You are very welcome!! It is always the simple things that seem to get us, lol.
Best damn advice. Great info. Now I know how to get OSD and definitely changing the frame rate to 120 fps. That explains the reason it's not sharp video transmission 🤣
Much appreciated. This guy ROCKS. Subscribe I did.
Hey I am just glad I could help someone out with it!!! :) I appreciate you!!
The newbee drone mount is the best I’ve found. Adapts it to 20/20 patern
gracias por tu esfuerzo para compartir toda esta información
Gracias por ver!
Very informative and helpful video. I drink flavored seltzer from cans. And I have an o3 air unit going into an aos 3.5 V2. 🤓
I hope some of it was useful for you!! I really really really can't to flavored seltzer...the addition of alcohol makes it soooo much worse for me, lol. Honestly, I think the 3-4" range is exactly where the O3 air unit shines. Small enough to warrant not running an action cam and actually using the O3 for the HD recording!
DUDE! I was just about to quit for the day after feeling like i tried everything but couldn't get my OSD to come up on my very first build. I was feeling discouraged, but i've always liked your advice (and .stls) in the past so i figured i'd give it a shot. You nailed it! full OSD and its beautiful! thanks man
I was actually just about to write you over at the beginner to fpv Facebook group!!!! Glad you got it going man, I figured it had to just be some of that post wiring config stuff.
Hey thanks for getting back to me so quickly I definitely checked the pinout thanks again for the reminder I just checked and I don't have osd and it won't recognize when I arm the quad I have video but that's it
Sorry it took me so long to get back the second time, lol. It comes in waves as I have time to read through things. Have you got it working yet? If not, it sounds like maybe you don't have MSP selected on the correct port. I would use the WTFOS preset in the presets tab under the VTX category so you can select the UART number you have it on and let it set of the proper CLI for you. The WTFOS config is exactly the same as this one, so it should work. Did you by chance update the flight controller to betaflight 4.4 and move a config over from an older version?
Lol turns out I did have rx and tx backward it was late and I was rushing yes it's working now thanks again
Hey buddy I just saw where any sunglasses repair kit has the exact philips head screws that fit the four holes to mount the 03 unit
They sure do!! The only bad thing is that they aren't long enough to mount the O3 with when you have to go through the frame first :(
the fpv wing explanation 🤣
First off I can't stand sparkling water. Second, you completely addressed my cable concerns. Does everything apply to the speedyB F7V3 as well? Still waiting on a few small parts from amazon so I can finally start my first build. Thanks so much once again. Once I can turn on my soldering iron, I'll be looking forward to joining your patreon and discord!!
team #bubblesrentreal for life!! lol. Yes everything does apply to to the SB F7v3. That is actually the stack I have in my other O3 builds, and the BEC in that thing works perfectly for this. I don't remember the UART in the plug on that one off hand, but I do remember that the pin out is correct for that port. Double check first though, because I could be remembering incorrectly. I just look forward to you getting that build in the air :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV Sweet, this means I can proceed with my build. The remainder of my parts are supposed to be here tomorrow. I've had some mail theft and lagging shipping times with the holidays, but I can't wait to get started. As far as soldering goes, I' just going to have to take my time, cuz I definitely ain't no pro lol. Thanks so much !!
Question. So if I don't use the crappy dji and use elrs instead. Would I have to cut those chords or unpin those. I am having trouble. Just watched your video and my quad won't move. I am connected to elrs. Arm it in beta flight but then I plug a lipo in and no arm no beeper nothing. No warning from OSD. So I'm thinking because I didn't remove those wires possibly. The far right ones for the dji rc link. Thanks for your help in advanced. I literally only go to your channels now. Got my hdzero set up because of your vids. 😅
thank u😃😀😄😁
You are very welcome!! Thank you for checking it out :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV 💯🤘🤘🤘🛸
I will mount a flight controller upside down Now I gave 180 degree on roll axis this is ok. Now if I want to change the yaw axis with inverted placement then should I give the value of the direction in which I want to change or should I give the opposite value?
The easiest way would be to change the board alignment drop down rather than adding it to the individual axis alignments at the top. In that drop down you can select a degree and direction relative to the way the arrow is pointing on the board and also select them in a flip orientation which will fix your yaw direction.
As a newbie, I recently purchased the DSI air 03 and the Integra goggles with the intent of installing them on a fixed wing aircraft. I am simply using an ESC and 3S battery-no flight controller. While looking for setup instructions, I found that using this setup my 03 transmitter cannot operate at high power, as it receives no arm command from the non-existing flight controller, completely removing the whole intent of purchasing the setup. The unit will operate at low power, essentially .25 MW. Do you know of a solution? Also, can I use the power supply wires to just connect to my battery balancing plug? The wires seem small for 2 amps out of a three S battery needed to run the transmitter. Thank you in advance.
I only have a 9volt 2amp because will it work with this 03 air unit?
Hey Bacon 🥓 thanks for the tips! Do you know if the 03 system is waterproof out the box like the vista or does it need fpv worry free? I'm quite clumsy when I drink sparkling water 😉
You are very welcome!! Firstly, keep your sparkling water away from the expensive video systems! :p Secondly, I don't think there is any kind of effective factory waterproofing on these things. I haven't seen anything in documentation about a rating, and from messing with them I haven't noticed anything that would really keep a liquid from messing something up. There is a coating on the boards, but there are so many connectors between the layers that it would just be impossible to protect.
@BaconNinjaFPV Cheers, I will be trying to waterproof one shortly, hopefully I don’t destroy it. Keep the great vids coming 👍
Thanks for the tips have a 03 just waiting to get the frame ready I only drink filtered tap water at room temperature and 1 cup coffee a day had a kidney stone don't ever want that again 😀
mmmmmm, tap water at room temp is my jam!!! I am trying to avoid the kidney stones before they start since I know some many people that have gone through that one....and no way am I gonna do that, lol
i kno you talk about NOT using the Dji Controller with the set ups because of the fail safes... I dont intend on flying the drone im wanting to use the controller on, but im
having problems getting the controller to actually work with the 03 air unit paired with F405 4S 20A Toothpick Brushless Flight Controller V5 BLHeli_S (ICM42688). I have video
though googles and set up osd and everything but i still cant get the controller to function inside BF... any suggestions...
bought o3 and a avata i drink regular water lol thanks for sharing
Hello wondering if the 03 unit provides a much better view than my Vista unit through my V2 goggles?
To fully appreciate the goggles view with the new 03 unit do I need the Goggles 2?
The O3 does give you slightly more resolution in the V2 goggles. It goes from the 720p of the vista/air unit up to 810p on the O3 system. Now, having said that, you do get even more resolution when you are using the Goggles 2 which can provide 1080p. The trade off though is that you can get lower latency at 120hz on the V2 goggles where the Goggles 2 can only go up to 100hz and will have slightly higher latency. The really big difference for me is the O3's increased range and penetration due to work being done on the transmission system, which also works on the V2 goggles. Even at the same output power levels, it provides more detail when you are in low signal conditions.
I am new to the channel and just subscribed, I have a question, Please, I have a special problem with a Whoop Drone similar to the AcroBee75 HD O3 DJI/PNP, When you connect the Battery Nothing happens, I order a new Battery Balance it, same issue, I can go the the Flight Controller using Betaflight and I also update the DJI part with the DJI assistant Consumer, still nothing. Can you give me some pointers on how to do some more diagnostics , I will appreciate
okayyyy i received today my Quadmula F3 Split and my T-Motor F7 Mini HD Stack (reversed dji pinout) with my O3 Air Unit i cant decide if i should mount my O3 upside down or not. It feels like the video is just for me. 😂
I feel like sometimes when I make a video there is someone out there who will need it exactly when I am making it, lol, and I guess that person is you this time! I debated flipping mine upside down...lots of times actually. Where I came out with it is that I would rather have the mipi laying on the bottom plate than curving down under the ESC, and I would rather have the UFL connectors up by the top plate than down at the bottom where a bad hit might clip one and break it.
I live in AZ and I'm about to double sided tape my 03 in my frame (the good automotive 3m kind). Any summer heat issues with this method you've found? Thanks Bacon! 👍
I haven't put mine through the full Texas summer cycle yet, but we have seen a couple of tripple digit days so far and my quality 3M tape hasn't let me down yet! I think as long as you are using the good stuff and you have a nice clean mating surface for it, nothing should give too much in a crash even when it is hot out. Still have to see what 120 degrees does to it here this summer, but I expect it to live through it!
Thanks 😊👍
Just a quick question. Im getting what Im assuming is a small amount of jello/vibration in my footage, but what's really odd is everything just seems out of focus once I start flying. When you look at the footage frame by frame some of the frames are in focus and some are out of focus. The camera is shock mounted quit a bit. Thanks for any help
ok, so there is this new thing people are talking about with the O3 system where the focus adjustment inside is actually not secured. Apparently people are taking theirs apart and adding a dab of glue to keep it from rattling around and doing exactly what you are talking about. The assumption is that DJI will do this in the factory at some point, but for now I just see people tearing into theirs and doing it themselves :( If you want more info on it, I know I saw something about it on this weeks FPV news with JB and Blunty.
the mamba mk4 f740 aio power the o3 air unit directly with vbat.... is there any over heating or risk by doing that......the aio also have a tvs diod protection for safety ..... or i need to cut the wire and add a bec for safety...... please help.. i am a little bit confused🙁
so taking a look at that board, it does indeed power it over vbatt. I wouldn't say there is an over heating risk as the power regulating components in the O3 VTX are working either way, but they may be dumping slightly more power into heat than they would be on a lower voltage input. If it were me, I would run it off of a 12v 2A (or 3A) BEC just because I don't trust vbatt with expensive components in any circumstance. Having said that though, there is a high likelihood that you would never have a problem using it on vbatt, so it is really up to how much comfort level you want to have.
I wanted to put the AIKON F760 AIO on a 2.5" cinewhoop. It has a 10v 1.5A voltage regulator will that be enough to power the dji o3 air unit?
So that would be 15w, which is just enough to run the O3. You won't have much head room for variance due to temperature or draw in other areas, but it should do it. I would also say that AIKON is probably rating that on the low end of what it is capable of since AIKON usually rates things in a way that would keep them from ever blowing up on you. It is likely capable of a bit more than the 1.5A :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV Thank you for responding quickly! I am planning to build my first drone, and I have a question about how to solder the air unit onto the board. I plan to use a separate uart for the crossfire connection, but I'm wondering if the o3 air unit comes with a cable specifically for video without the sbus that I can solder onto the aikon board.
By the way, I just wanted to say that you create amazing content and it's really helpful for people like me who are just starting out in this field. Thanks again for your speedy response and for taking the time to answer my question. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to learning more from you in the future!
Can you mount the O3 AU directly to the carbon? (Is the outside shell grounded?)
I just double checked with a meter, and the outer shell is in fact grounded on the O3 unit. If you use the corner screw holes on it to mount through the frame, then it will for sure be grounded to the frame its self. Personally, I prefer to either isolate it from the frame using the thick double sided tape or to mount it with a printed holder that doesn't directly connect the frame and the case of the unit.
SORRY to bother you again , having troubles with the siren f3 build i have the skystar 55 amp esc , but my o3 air unit is not connecting or powering on when I turn on the quad. any suggestions?
SkyStarr Stack *
have you figured out just how many mm of thread we can use in the 03 airunit ?
I haven't, but that is mostly because I just don't trust the small little screws to have enough thread to not rip out in a really hard crash, so I have been using other means to get mine held down. What I have found to work the best is some good quality 3M VHB tape covering the bottom so it makes a bunch of contact with the bottom plate. I haven't had one of those let go on me at all!
always good advice but one question how do i know what uart the 03 airunit is hooked to on the iflight defender 25 so i can get the osd on my goggles 2
I took a look at the FC in the defender and it looks like they are using UART 1 in the DJI plug on it. That should be the one you need for MSP OSD!
@Bacon Ninja FPV cool thank you but I was just playing around with it and I think it's already set up that way because when I change something on the osd in beta flight it is on my goggles so I think it's good where did you find the info at for that just curious in case I want to research it I want to learn all this stuff thank you
@@FREEDOMFPV84 yeah if you are able to move things around in the OSD then you should be good! :) As for how I found it, I looked up the defender, found the board it was running, then pulled the documentation from iFlight on it. In their diagram they show the DJI plug (usually the one with power, a uart, and an sbus for radio link) which had uart 1 as the only full one in it. Kind of a wild goose chase sometimes, lol, but it works out in most cases with most manufacturers.
@Bacon Ninja FPV OK thank you
Hey I was wondering if u could help me out and tell me how to start onboard recording couldn’t find anything online about it, I’m able to record off the goggles on my mark 5 have zero idea how to start recording on the 03 I am not using the dji controller btw, thanks
How do I put the cli back if I want to run a caddx vista again I'm swapping the 03 to a different quad
for the Vista you should be able to just leave it the way it is and have it work just fine. The only real difference between the config for this one and the vista is the MSP OSD stuff, but if you are running WtfOS then you would still need that anyway. Even if you aren't running MSP OSD on your Vista, having it there shouldn't cause any issues :) Just make sure your wiring lines up since the pinout of your connector may be different on the flight controller.
@@BaconNinjaFPV hey thanks for getting back to me so quickly I just checked and I still don't have osd I swapped the 03 for a dji caddx vista and have no osd also arming does not bring the unit out of low power I had the 03 air unit working with osd and arming
Hi! I have a question for you. I installed the air unit v3. It works but no image from the camera. I see the osd and white DJI logo. Any idea what is not working? I am connecting it to DJI googles v2 with the latest update on both units. Maybe frame rate difference….
hmmm, I wouldn't imagine it is an issue with the frame rate since the goggles tell the camera what to run at, but it could be an issue with the connector or cable between the camera and VTX. If you are seeing the OSD, then I would expect that the VTX is transmitting as it should, but no video from the camera would for sure make me think something is going on with the mipi cable. I would check the VTX end under the cover just to be sure it is seated and if it is then I would check the cable for damage and check the one in the camera. It could just barely be unseated and would cause that.
@@BaconNinjaFPV This morning, I opened the wire connection section on the air unit and pushed the wire a bit in. I think it was loose... Now works! I hope it wont disconnect while I am in the air. Thanks Ninja!
Hi
Presently I am using V2 goggles with Caddx Vista and I am on old firmware for Video link .
I wish to use DJI V2 Goggles for O3 Air unit and the Vista . Cross fire is my Control link .
I am unable to find any videos to help in Completely change the Firmware on the goggles V2 with regards to use Vista/Old Air Unit in addition to 03 system .Kindly help .
There are many flyers who have O3 units and V2 Goggles which are bound to Caddx Vista but are unable to get full benefits of the present DJI scenario.Can you help by making one video for the same
Kindly guide
I actually have a video on this in the works :) I have been waiting on it a bit since the current firmware for the Vista and old Air Unit are in a bit of limbo with DJI adding compatibility for the Goggles 2 to them and I don't want to confuse anyone. Basically, you will need to be in DIY mode on the goggles and plug them into a computer running the DJI assistant for FPV. In there you will need to go up in firmware to .0609. Once you have that, you will need to plug the goggles in to a computer running DJI assistant for Consumer Drones and update to the latest version. For the vistas and old air units you are already running, you will need to update them to the most recent version in the DJI Assistant for FPV software. Any O3 air units you plan to run will need to be updated to the most recent version in the DJI Assistant for Consumer Drones software. It is all very confusing isn't it? lol. The other hard part is that if you update your Vistas and old Air Units to the newest version in the Consumer Drones assistant you will break their compatibility with the v2 Goggles :(
Why is one view of the earth show curvature, but the other view show it is flat? Could it be the one camera has fish eye and the other does not because it would distort the engine dimensions and be totally obvious?
I seem to be having trouble playing back the 4K video from the internal storage and the card. It seems really jittery and the video then slows down. It's a little bit better on my wife's Apple computer. Any thoughts?
Are you copying the video files to the computer before playing them back, or playing them directly off of internal storage or card? If you aren't doing the copy, it could be that your wife's Apple has faster USB ports on it so it is able to play back the high bitrate video better than on your machine. I would recommend copying a file over to your machines internal drive and trying to play that back to see if it does better.
@@BaconNinjaFPV Will do. Thank you.
So can you have both dji controller support and crossfire or elrs?
So technically you could have the SBUS connected from this O3 air unit, as well as a UART based receiver like Crossfire or ELRS. You can only use one at a time though, and you cant swap between systems without reconfiguring betaflight. Which ever one has the Serial RX option enabled in the ports tab of betaflight, and has its protocol selected in the receiver tab, will be the one it uses. Also, I really don't recommend the control link with this system...at least not yet. Maybe they will give it a firmware update at some point that lets you not failsafe when you lose video link, but until then it is just not a safe option.
@@BaconNinjaFPV control link?
Yo bacon, will mounting it with sticky tape affect the EIS? My quad looks fine in the goggles when flying and dvr is smooth too. But on board recording was a mess. Any idea?
Since the gyro is in the camera housing, the sticky tape mounting shouldn't have any impact on EIS. If you are having some issues with it though, I would check the soft mounting for the camera and what PWM frequency you are running on the ESC. DJI says that if you are running 24k PWM, even as the PWM low for variable PWM, it can interfere with the refresh rate of the gyro in the cam and cause stutters.
@@BaconNinjaFPV woah bro thisnis useful. Im currently trying to screw on the unit cause i thought the eis is there. So its in the camera huh. Ok ill try to switch to 48pwm. Sadly i dun have soft mounts for my frame right now. Order from quadmula is taking agesssss.
@@DopeyFPV yeah, I think a few people started trying them out and liking them, which showed some other people why they might like them....and then they got a ton of orders they had to fill, lol.
@@BaconNinjaFPV thx for the info bro!!
@@BaconNinjaFPV yo bro! I managed to get the jitters out man thanks to u! Changed to 48 and put some gummies on the Siren btn the camera plate and the camera. EIS working fine now! Appreciate it bro.
I’m stuck in low power mode, not recording, all of the things you’ve said.
But when you say hook up a UART. What do you mean?
I’ve soldered to the 9V, G, Tx2, and Rx2. I’m assuming this means UART 2, but when I try to toggle MSP in BF, it turns back off when I save and reboot.
I’m stuck. Does anyone have advice?
I sure do mean the TX and RX when I say UART :) As for why you are stuck in LP mode, it is for sure that you aren't able to toggle that MSP connection. On UART 2 in your ports tab is there anything else selected in that line? Most of the time it won't save the toggle if something like serial RX is also selected on that same one or something other than MSP VTX control is in one of the drop downs.
I don't have anything in the boxes for telemetry or sensors; serial Rx is turned off; and I have VTX Smartaudio chosen in the peripherals because that's what I've seen others do. But I haven't seen info to confirm or deny that's correct. When I toggle MSP and reboot, it resets all my other settings for the table including the above.
Thanks for dropping in on a 6 month old video sir! @@BaconNinjaFPV
@@Sovereign_54 ah yeah for sure just set that to MSP OSD with VTX control over in the drop down that you have smart audio set it :) SA is really only going to be for analog VTXs (and HDZero in some one off cases). If you are running Betaflight 4.4 or higher you should have that as an option in there, and if you are running older than that just leave that drop down with none.
@@BaconNinjaFPV So, removing the SA option as you said DID allow me to enable the MSP and have it stay there. But the AU still arms in low power mode.
Changing a setting in the goggles allowed me to remove it from low power mode, but I don’t want to remove failsafes just to fix an issue that I’m sure I’m causing because I’ve only been doing this a week.
Do you have any other ideas?
@@BaconNinjaFPV After lots of headaches, I managed to get the drone in the air. A RIDICULOUS difference between the Avata I got rid of and this...
Couldn't have done it without you and your channel. Thank you sir.
Here's a link if you feel so inclined.
th-cam.com/video/WT0OFqSkOU8/w-d-xo.html
👍
I have this problem with permanent low power mode and no recording both in the unit and the googles starting. Apparently the O3 does not get the arm command. The quad is on CRSF (UART 2) and the O3 is on UART3 (MSP), however, the SBUS cable of the O3 is not connected.
In your video at 7:30 I am a little confused, if you mean "all" O3 wires including the actually not needed SBUS have to be connected to a UART? In that configuration I would i.e. put the O3 on UART2 and SBUS, the CRSF would be changed to UART 3 or 4.
Thanks for your time and efforts for the FPV community -:)
It sounds like you have everything connected the way it should be! The wires I really meant were just the main UART for MSP since the arm command comes over that one, the SBUS wires are only important if you are using that radio link and it sounds like you went a different direction with that (good choice by the way). If your air unit isn't getting the arm notice, and you are very sure that MSP is enabled on the correct one, I would try swapping the TX/RX wires just to be sure the UART is communicating properly. That is really the only thing I can think off which would cause the issue you are having outside of just a bad UART for some reason. Give it a shot and let me know if it gets you fixed up!
This configuration previously worked fine with a vista unit. I now get Betaflight OSD data allright and also DJI O3 OSD data, with the exception of the flight battery voltage (displays 0 volt, while Betaflight OSD gives me the correct reading). CRSF works flawlessly.
I switched the UARTs for DJI TX/RX with no different result. I switched RX/TX cabeling with the result, that no DJI OSD data showed at all, indicating that the previous soldering was correct.
So I still have no clue why the arm command does not reach the O3 unit and in turn disables the low power mode and turns on the video recordings, both inside the unit and the goggles.
@@cusglider hmmmmm, do you happen to not have telemetry enabled in the receiver tab? I seem to remember that not sending all of the data over MSP like it should if it is turned off for some reason. It does sound like you had it correct since you were getting OSD data!
For a moment I felt like, now we got it, as the Telemetry button went from the Configuration tab to the Receiver tab in Betaflight 4.4. and it was turned off!
However, no change in quad behavior after I turned it on.
I identified the falty grey wire being responsible for my problems. After replacing it, everything is fine. So if you only have partial DJI OSD, permanent low power mode and no recordings the culprit is the grey wire not passing data.
some of the osd element not showing. gps sats. gps speed etc......can you tell me what's the Problem is...?
i am useing v2 with o3 and hd osd
hmmm, it could be a few things making that happen. If there is any way you could send me a pic of your OSD inside your goggles and a screenshot of your OSD tab in betaflight over on Discord, I may be able to get a better sense of what is going on with it :)
Literally just bought it yesterday lol
well hey, good timing! I bet you are really going to enjoy it!
@@BaconNinjaFPV Super excited to try it out. Actually am building a complete new drone tomorrow to put it on. It will be a Flyfishrc Volador 6" frame, Tmotor Velox 2208 1750kv motors, 60423 props, Xrotor 60amp ESC, JBF7 V2 FC, 03 Air Unit, and Crossfire Nano RX. I bought 6 of the Tattu 5.0 6s 1400mah 150c batteries for the setup too, so I'm hoping for a complete ripper. 🙏🤞
OMG mind-boggling that's y the gray controller is just a bit earlier for newer Pilot's
I really hope these fixes work out because running the gray DJI controller is just soooo easy for new pilots or someone who wants a super simple build.
Honestly I don't drink the sparkles and am not rich.. and all I wanted was a damn video system I could drive an RC car around with and go maybe a couple blocks.
Based on videos I've seen I got the impression I'd absolutely be able to do this by spending the money on digital, and my analog efforts have not quite satisfied me there. So boom, I spent the money, got all excited after finally getting everything activated and setup.. made sure I did everything right and had the O3 nicely cooled during a test run.. then walked out of my front apt door with the goggles to see the bitrate drop down to about 10mbps at the bottom of the stairs. Still got in my car since the signal came back a little as I walked into the lot.. then soon as I made the turn out of my small parking lot I saw the screen go black. This is about 75ft with a couple of my apt walls and my car frame as obstructions, at about 75% power where the vtx pulls about 8.5W. Doing the hack on the goggles to allow more channels didn't seem to make a difference. Different antennas didn't seem to make a difference. It honestly kind of aligns with what I suspected the entire time, but I've still seen too many videos showing it working well around neighborhoods etc.
man, I really wish that had worked out for you because it would be a super awesome system for ground vehicles! I get a ton more range than you are getting out of mine...at least 1800 feet which is as far as I have been able to test with the spots I have around here. It really does sound like it is stuck at 25mw for some reason even though you did the channel hack. I would expect the kind of range you are getting out of that small output power, but at its full 700mw I would absolutely expect a whole lot more. Now, on thing I just though about is you might have a ton of wifi interference in an apartment complex that may be really messing with your reception. Have you tried it anywhere that the wifi may be less dense in the area?
@@BaconNinjaFPV There is actually quite a bit of a noise floor in my neighborhood so it's not the best spot.. but with analog I can sit in my apt and drive about 75ft across the lot to a drainage ditch on the other side of the street leading to my lot (going around the back). This is putting about 5 apartments in between me and the car in the process. So basically any kind of range test I do that doesn't involve clear LOS, my O3 is going to get beat by the analog stuff if we're talking sheer distance before losing navigable images.
When I test the same vehicles out in other areas like open lots I can get more range but this is just mainly due to the less obstructions. I would imagine the range on the O3 is quite good or at least comparable/better in an open area but I hardly drive around in open areas.
With the O3 I set it up to arm with an arduino nano and leave it on the low power setting unless it's armed. The goggles will tell me it's going in and out of low power mode and give the "motors off" message when disarmed but I could also see the increase in supply current between the various modes. Only an 'arm' signal brings it to full power which must be well over 700mW output given the 10W+ consumption. I have no idea why they did that where disabling low power mode in the settings only gives like 75%.
It is really clear and low latency though.. so long as I'm in range. I mentioned this to another youtuber who said he has a friend who had the exact same experience and wasn't pleased with the O3 (at ground level).
@@BaconNinjaFPV I recently just did a test at full armed power and it wasn't bad. I didn't go that far but driving around a rather long business complex didn't start dropping the signal til I got a good ways around the other side of the building. So you're probably right that the majority of my signal issues at home are just a result of the immediate noise in that area.
@@Magneticitist I really hope it is just the interference, because it is a super awesome idea! I'm sure you are losing a bit to the antenna height too just because it doesn't reflect off of the ground well.
@@BaconNinjaFPV The antenna is something I definitely think can be improved upon. I'm starting off doing just all stock testing but so far it's a lot more promising than I first thought. Hoping to head out here in a little bit to this long stretch of lots I know of and do a true range test on the ground. Curious to see what will win, the DJI video or stock Radiolink 2.4ghz control.
When I think back on all my testing I do always seem to get much better results away from my neighborhood. There are not tons of units around me but when I bring up the wifi list there's a good 15-20 routers on there. Kind of makes sense that 5.8 and 2.4 would struggle.
I can not use power directly out of my battery?? I mean all my equipment is 14.4 V????
You sure can! The O3 VTX will accept up to 6S voltage natively. You just have to be careful with it though because not powering it off of a BEC can expose the system to higher voltage spikes and potentially shorten the VTX's lifespan or kill it all together. Not saying that it would happen in every case, but the BEC is a nice layer of protection for such an expensive unit.
@@BaconNinjaFPV Well, I guess that probably the correct thing to do is to mount a FET & Cap combination to make it bullet proof!! but a bec would consume to much power and in my case.. I do go for long range and that is what I need every single milligram of power to go longer and farther..
I had a mini stroke at about 7 minutes in
Think I’ll stick to pre built stuff
Love the channel man. I’m not buying the 03, #analog 😂 keep up the great content though!
Thank you very much, and I really do appreciate it! Analog is still a great option, and I still fly it at least a couple of times per month...even with all the other digital options hanging on my wall.
Im offended bro!!! Cant remember why or what offended me, but Im offended! Its a 2022 thing arent we all offended lol Great video!
Ya what this gender neutral human being said. We’re offended for some reason! Keep the greasy content coming, it offends me but I enjoy it. Happy flying!
lolol, well it is the internet so you have every right to be as offended as you please! Proceed with your delicate feelings my friends! :p
@@BaconNinjaFPV 🤣🤣 Somebody call me a wahhhbulance
HOLY fucking shit you're annoying
You look and sound like 'Jon Patton' of 'TheGunCollective' TH-cam channel - like you're his younger brother or related to him in some way.
I hadn't heard of that channel, but I went and looked....and you hit that one spot on, lol. I don't think we are related though, but who knows!
there is a 4.4 preset already
There sure is! As soon as 4.4 was in RC people did a great job of getting the old ones ported over.
With betaflight 4.3.2 impossible have osd with Google v2 and o3 with msp in the CLI i am in UART 4 and enter 3 NOT OSD
Are you typing the commands in via CLI or are you using the preset that I used in the video? With the preset you just pull down the box and select the UART you are using, so in your case 4. It generates the commands and enters them correctly for you. If you are entering them, make sure you have issued the "set osd_displayport_device = MSP" command as well as the command setting the UART. If you are using the preset but it still isn't working, try going into the receiver table and enabling telemetry and make sure that you have OSD enabled in the config tab. If all of that doesn't work, double check that your UART TX and RX are in the correct order to line up with the TX and RX on the O3 unit.
@@BaconNinjaFPV thanks friend i see this
Isnt the gyro on the unit?
Although some initial reviews did say that, it turns out they were incorrect. The gyro is indeed in the camera and it is a good thing too since those are easier to soft mount that the vtx :)
How do u make a uart for low power
I assume you are asking how you get it out of low power mode by using a UART. If so, you just have to wire it up to a flight controller and enable an MSP connection to the O3 unit so that it knows when the drone arms. Once the O3 unit sees the drone arm, it will kick out of low power mode, but it can only do that with a UART based MSP connection.
I am new and I don’t understand can’t even get osd
I think I have rx and tx wrong.
@@Dashone93 ah, ok, let me start with an few questions then so I can figure out what you have. Did you get a drone with this DJI O3 system built in or is it one you built yourself? If it is one that was pre built, would you mind telling me what kind it was?
I did have it wrong dummy all good now
Big bucks 😭
yeah, these things are pretty darn expensive!
I've got a SpeedyBee F405 v3 FC with a 9v/2A BEC on it... is this not going to be enough amperage for the DJI O3 Air Unit I also purchased to use with it? The F7 V3 FC has a 9v/4A BEC on it so maybe I should go with that one instead? Don't want to solder things before I know and can't really seem to find much information on the web. Also, since I bought the F405 V3 stack that came with an ESC would I be able to use the F405 V3 ESC with an F7 V3 FC or would I need to buy the whole F7 V3 stack?
Your F405 v3 should be just enough to get it done with the plug that is on board. The numbers I recommended for this one are with a bit of padding for manufacturing variance and some adjustment for after the electronics start to warm up. You should be perfectly fine to use it as is unless for some reason the BEC on your particular board was just very under spec due to something with the manufacturing process :) Side note, you absolutely can use the ESC from a 405 v3 on their F7 v3. I believe the plug is even pinned out as a direct swap!
I use the dji fpv remote 1 with all my home built quads, I got into fpv with the dji fpv so I’ve been holding on to the idea the fpv remote 2 might come useful with the vistas, witch it has but with strings attached, I put the o3 into my Quadmula and I’m not happy that if I loose vid I lose rc link at all, I was going to upgrade to goggles 2 to use the remote 2 with the vistas but if it’s the same deal with the rc link I’m out. I may just shelf the o3, go back to wtfos. Or if I hit the lottery and get goggles 2 just for my o3 rigs….but then I loose 120fps low latency. Dji is really messing with my emotions. O3 does look great but low light situations are crap, I can only fly at night right now so idk maybe a radiomaster boxer and goggles 2 are in my future and just run 2 sets of goggles. SMH wish I had more money. My fpv go bag is going to turn into a not so go bag. I’m 100% a water drinker, breakfast lunch and dinner…I hate soda. I’d say I choose water 95% of the time, sparkling water unflavored blows but I do enjoy a flavored sparkling water from time to time, cherry Bubbly is amazing….so much flavor
The old black box remote was a super easy, and honestly really good, option! It didn't have the most range ever, but it got the job done and it did it all over your existing connection which was really nice. It is very unfortunate that when the video link drops, so does the RC link :( It does make sense though since the whole thing works as a network combining the VTX, goggles, and radio when you have it in that mode. Low light is a problem as well for sure, and I don't see any way out of that one...but maybe at some point we will have some different exposure algorithm options that will help with it. I think a Boxer is a terrific combination with this by the way!! I can't do even flavored sparkling water....it always makes the flavor taste so weird to me, lol.
@@BaconNinjaFPV I was the same way about flavored seltzer water till I tried the brand Bubbly’s cherry flavor, it blew me away…it didn’t have that flavored seltzer taste as bad as the others…try it it’s good. When I got into fpv the dji fpv remote 1 just had to many advantages for me for my first build and bnf. I figured if I’m installing a vista/air unit I should take advantage of the whole system…being able to navigate through the goggle’s menu via fpv remote is nice. When wtfos came out I was happy with my set up. I’ve been on the edge of my seat waiting for o3 since July thinking it was going to get released along with the Avata but no in dji fashion they decide to release right before Black Friday and screw me again right before xmass when I didn’t have the extra money to spend. I’m telling you I think dji just likes to plot against me, I think their objective is to find out what I want and need then make me jump through hoops and empty my pockets.
got 3 of them you forgot cats my cat loves it too gets toasty
My cats prefer the tops of my computers, lol. You can always find one of them curled up right on the top fan when I am rendering a video since it gets suuuuper warm. I am constantly having to move them off so my computer can breathe.
No sir I don't. Lol I actually still big big packs of Walmart water lol. I just just love good quality tech and stay update on the next big thing. More like a proper living 🙇♂️
lol, well I am right there with you...except it is my kids drinking the bottled water while I drink from the tap like a heathen. Also, they won't let me into a Target...
I just finished a build with an 03 and I drink tap water.
I feel you! Tap water is my jam!
Bro i need your brains im trying to get this wired to my Darwin 129
man, finding an open UART on that thing is going to be tough :( Also, you will either need to run the air unit on vbatt, or get an external BEC (the BEC is a better option) since the biggest on board is 10v at 1A. Since the board has an F411 chip, there are really only 2 UARTS available and that means one for your receiver and the other for GPS.
@@BaconNinjaFPV what if i run air unit with dji remote
@@fpvMazerolle2607 you would still need a full UART for the air unit and another half of a UART for the SBUS pad :( I will find another board diagram and see if I can see any way to do it with what they have broken out on there.
@@BaconNinjaFPV thank you bro
It looks like maybe the 03 is good for cinematic and long range/exploring. Freestyle is going to destroy a $60 camera.
it is a trade off for sure! On the rigs that I am flying it in, I tend to flip the mounting plates over and tuck the cam in further when I can. That does mean I get more standoff in view, but at least the nose of the camera isn't out there just waiting to get hit, lol. I don't think I am going to own very many of these things for exactly that reason.
22W? Source of this information?
I arrived at that number through some testing of my own and the testing Mad's tech did in his video on the subject. He came out at 15w of consumption with 4K high frame rate recording in full power mode when he bench tested his. I have had similar results, but I have also had some peak draw points after the VTX has been operating for a while and under poor signal conditions requiring lots of re-transmission at around 20w. I set 22w as a highest safe target so that no matter the operating conditions, or under specification of the on board BEC during peak battery draw, you won't get a black out.
I got dehydrated a few years ago when I was in Ukraine and drank only sparkling water from a natural spring, and I couldn't get to the village with the fresh water spring. 🤕 Now I have a water insecurity. I need a fresh water bottle with me at all times! Ha ha
Now sparkling water from a natural spring I might try! Can't promise I would like it...but it sounds like it would be worth trying, lol. I usually keep water with me too, so don't feel too bad.
Me and my wife Karen are terrifully offended! Were calling the cops!
ok...let me just change your display name to Chad on my end of YT here... lol
@@BaconNinjaFPV hahah come on 2023!
3:45 pinout
I drink sparkling water to replace pop not regular water so I feel attacked 😢
Not superior enough for an 03 yet though.
Although I think sparkling water is absolutely disgusting, it is far better for you that a soda would be! Gotta bump those superiority numbers up bro :p
@@BaconNinjaFPV my superiority meter is maybe half full. Maybe by the time my next build comes around it’ll be maxed out and it’ll get an O3 unit
Can’t believe it doesn’t screw in
mine is screwed down its fine, just turn it upside down.
I just prefer having a little cushion when it comes to VTX mounting to keep them from breaking in those concrete crashes :) screwing it down is totally fine if it works for you though!!
Timestamps would be really nice.
That is a good call! I will go back and add some :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV I'm on mobile and I'd like to know how you went about mounting in regards to the stabilization issues, just too much to sit through / navigate 20+ min
@@v1.hattrick totally understandable! Basically it will be very important to soft mount the camera since the gyro is actually inside of that unit. Lots of frame manufacturers are re-designing their frames with TPU camera plates or cages to allow for vibration dampening right at the camera housing. Without using some kind of TPU soft mounting, the stabilization gets very twitchy in and out of the unit itself. Either check your frame to see if they have a conversion kit for it, see if someone has designed on that you can print at home, or try to rig something up for your self to accomplish it. The frame I am running an O3 in is made by Quadmula and they have an O3 soft mounting kit available with thier frames for a couple of dollars extra.
Sparkling water is disgusting lol
10000% agree! lol
@@BaconNinjaFPV just got my first 03 unit today and I have a pavo pico coming tomorrow. I ordered them after your recommendation on Sundays live stream. I’m pretty excited and glad I’ll have something to keep me entertained for the long holiday weekend.
And I plan on trying conformal coating for the first time.
o3 and goggles 2 & sparkling water is awful
lol, I think we would make wonderful friends :p
I just bought the 03 AU and goggles 2 , I hooked it up to the F405 wing FC , I worked for days to get it to arm and have the AU see the arm command…… after 2 days I decided to run TX to TX and RX to RX and it actually works now ! Seriously - WTF is up with this setup ?
Whats good.... new sub here. Been enjoying ur vids.
I took a break from fpv for about a year been flying acro since 2017 where I first fell in love with the source one frame that's all I built I loved the V3 Now they only sell source ones v5 which is much different I'm getting back in looking for a frame to build the O3 on, Simular to source one, plus room for 2 battery straps is really important for me learned a while ago you can do a lot if your battery doest eject. Any suggestions would be appreciated. @Bacon Ninja Fpv