There's No Excuse to Hunt with a Creedmoor Anymore--How to Cut Recoil
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- A rifle with uncontrolled recoil can (1) Make the shooter flinch more, and (2) Prevent you from spotting your impact through the scope. With these 5 changes, you can dramatically reduce the recoil of a rifle.
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As a retired Mechanical Engineer, let me say looks like exactly the correct approach in designing your pad. Well done Peyton & Jim!
As a retired machinist I agree;)
They are smart people
And to his point at 23:18 about "peak pressure" not being the end all be all of recoil reduction: even if two things achieve the same peak pressure, the one that gets there slower will feel like it has less recoil. Slowing the impulse from a hit to a push, even if the push is the same amount of force, it will feel softer.
A Maxi Pad without wings.
I'm calling BS. Did you notice their graphs do not have the axis vector labels, either horizontally or vertically? Are we starting above zero as many finance charlatans frequently show. Is it even linear as opposed to logarithmic, etc. Kind've negates the precision of the graph lines.
I believe the recoil pad you tapped on the truck hood, was hard and smooth on that corner to prevent grab or friction on clothing. This video is interesting though. I’m intrigued in the product.
Yep. Read up on shotgun pads and scout rifles.
I have always hated the slap. I was always ok with a big push. That is why so many people like the 375 h&h because it was a push more than a slap. I was wondering if it helps with muzzle jump. Good work looks like a great product
Agree with the concept. I have a 45-70 that shoots much lighter than it ought to, even with heavier hitting loads. Very nice recoil pad too.
I like EVERYTHING about this video.
Great job!
I'm ordering a 300 PRC right now. 😉
Thanks Jim, and family. Your channel has taught me a lot. I’m definitely buying 1
Great to hear!
Very Cool. I am glad someone has FINALLY put some more thought and technology into making a recoil pad. As you stated it really makes no sense to have the same clump of rubber on all calibers. The one thing I did notice in your video is all your testing as far as I saw was you shooting in a prone position. The body naturally soaks up more recoil that way. Shooting from a standing position like most hunters do may make different recoil issues you havent tested yet. I am just saying! Maine North Woods Hunter (Shane)
Can you post these graphs with actual numbers. So we can compare better
I'll work on preparing some that we can show more detail on. The issue with showing numbers is the way the pressure sensor works. It compares two shots to each other very precisely, but it's finicky to calibrate to precise ft-lbs numbers. The scale is really just a percentage of the maximum pressure it can read, and the lines are percentages of the max output. Roughly, it's 25 ft-lbs at the top of the scale.
This is really cool. I thought the price was going to be crazy based on the R&D and all your time. I have to say for a truly custom product I think you are competitive. Can't wait to try it out
There is a company out of Clarendon, TX that makes custom muzzle brakes that actually work. Witt Machine. I use the clamp on style but they make custom threaded ones as well. I pay around $100 for the clamp on brake and I've taken an ultralight 300 winmag from recoiling like a 10 gauge shotgun down to the recoil of a 6.5 or .243. Check them out. They are fantastic.
the graphs are interesting, but ultimately kinda useless without having the data values on the measuring axiis. You should show these with either overlays or the data showing that they are all being shown on the same scale as its very easy to manipulate those scales to make differences appear more favorable than they actually are. Not saying that you are, just that its possible and including that data or overlay (ideally both) would take that possibility away
I was thinking the same thing. No data is usless, pretty much just a picture. Without the impulse device on the pic rail how did you he get his data? Once scope is placed on the rifle could not put the device on to get the info, ha.
Beautiful transitions for the cinematography
I use a limb saver now on most all my rifles, for sure getting one of these. Love the look!! I am putting a Horizon 22cm in a Hnt 26, being built right now, this will be a great addition.
Just turned 60 yo, and this might be just what the doctor ordered! Have had my eye on a couple of the PRC calibers for a while, and this might be the gentle push I needed. Pardon the pun!😂
*Backfire* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us this amazing product. GOD Bless.
Newer to your channel. The product looks GREAT. Your gun room looks amazing!!😊
Great looking product! I’ll be waiting for the Remington 700 version and see what you can do for my Montana .28 Nosler. When I checked your website, price point was EXACTLY where I thought it would be - premium but not extravagant. Maybe consider an adder for custom sizes using a mold or tracer template of the rifle butt? Payton’s Aggie hat also helped the sales pitch!
I'll give you one more, but first we'll need an NDA and patent search. But it is effective.
Looks interesting but I've never had issues with the comfort of the factory Savage pad that came on my 116 .30-06 or the slip on LimbSaver on my .50 Beowulf. The Savage pad was included in the price of the rifle and the LimbSaver was 1/3 the price of the Backfire pad. Seems like it might be an option for those with the budget to trick out their gun and not worry about money. I wish that was me but it's not. I'd like to try one for comparison but I didn't have that kind of a budget.
Either way, I'm glad it's made in America and I wish you guys much success!!
Rounding the sharp peak to more a round peak reduces the ouch.
When will these recoil pads be available for fierce rifles? I am excited to get my hands on one!
The kid is not broken. He is in his right mind.
Excellent video! How soon before a recoil pad will be made for a Sig Cross? Count me in!
I know i dont need it BUT this on a magpul CTR stock and i will love you even more
Limbsavers are amazing too
Agreed. They are the second best out there 😀
Congrats - love the video. Greetings from South Africa
Bro has the right hat on. Gig’em
Seems like an interesting product. I dig ingenuity and solutions brought about by a challenge. I'll be keeping a close eye on what users say about it. Very cool. 👍
well well.... color me intrigued!
I notice just a few manufacturers supported on the current list... Any support planned for Savage 110 ultralight, since you love that gun so much????
Thank you for putting in the thought into building a better recoil pad. My problem is you are showing me graphs with no denominations on the axis. In this day and age you have to show me the units of force on that axis. You are a attorney show the numerical evidence not just graphs that could be at deferent scales.
I'm working on a reduced recoil load for my 30-06 it's a 130gr or 110gr Cooper bullet coming out of the muzzle at 3k, which is light for caliber while retaining penetration capabilities, most shots where I live are done at less than 200 so drop and drift aren't a thing.
May be taking my 2yo hunting next year.
I'm sorry but I have to laugh when the wife says "where do I stick it? Oh right you showed me that..." 😳🤣
Have you guys heard of Falcon Strike hydraulic recoil reduction pads? First heard about them watching guys shooting exhibition shotgun.
I agree with Adam 338win for me in northern Canada probably in Tikka T3X lite
In physics terms, I think the numbers you are looking for are impulse rather than simple momentum.
Suppressor? Maybe. Muzzle Brake? Hell, no! Getting tinnitus, that will be with you for the rest of your life, is no joke.
I have a 300 Winmag and 6mm creedmore on hnt26 chassis. I’ll be buying for the 300 win for sure.
Awesome! you'll love it. The HNT26 is a fantastic chassis. Except for the recoil pad, it's my ideal of what a chassis should be.
I would buy one immediately if you had the option for the Remington model 700 BDL in 7mm REM Mag.
Look cool. Are you shipping internationally? Based in New Zealand
Can you do a review of sightmark scopes?
Cool… I want to try one
Some suppressors will reduce recoil more than others. You should test that.
Looks great. Well you be making it for MDT TAC21 chassis thanks
Thats one thing my dads 300 win mag synthetic vanguard has a much larger pad than the vanguard sporter with wooden stock the pad is much thinner on the 243
Those Tikka recoil pads are not good. I put a limb saver on mine and it really made a difference.
Did I miss the location of the link for this? I don’t see it in the description. Is that a TH-cam thing?
What was the start weight? And what was the finished weight after all the modifications?
Love the vids in deer stand now all I got coming in are cows
Haha. Well, good luck to you. Hopefully a giant is moving in right now.
@@backfire nothing but doe but where I am doe season is over
Padrone me for being a little slow on the uptake, but where do you buy the pad? I don't see it in the store and I don't see a link for it anywhere. As commented else where, I want to put on on the 12 Ga. 100 rnds of trap or skeet and you feel it the next day. with a break and a aftermarket foam pad, the .308 is gentle nudge. Custom making them is great but I bet with the design you could make a generic version with a rubber boot that slides over the butt of the stock. Few things are more fun than the bone jarring kick of a high velocity 3" 12ga (that's not what I shoot Trap with :) ) there is a guy here in CA, that make custom shock absorbers and installs them in competition skeet and trap guns. while shotguns haven't been featured much on the back fire show, there is a very large market for your product in the shot gun world. BTW, I love your statically testing.
Recoil has never really bothered me, but I have a suppressor on order for my coues rifle. Can't wait to try it out!
You'll love the suppressor for sure. For me, the issue isn't so much recoil HURTING me. It's much more about being able to see through the scope and spot my impacts--especially when hunting. I want to know precisely where I hit and be ready to re-engage quickly.
Are the recoil pads sand to fit stock like most i install? I'd love to try a few on trap guns for youth. I install a ton of pads and keep pads in stock.
You just need to put a muzzle break on it like. I have a my 300 when Maggie I haven't alter light stock. The whole gun ways 10 pounds but it would kick me rightly I ball. If I didn't have that big. Old? Muzzle? Break I have on it.
awesome video. i have a question though, how do you attach the backstop to a Boyd's At-one stock? id love one for my 6.5 prc but im not sure if i can put it on my new boyds stock
Ruger never got ahold of me about a spacer for 450bushmaster i had to make my own spacer out of ruber but i gotta try that recoil pad on that
Just out of curiosity. If I put that recoil pad on a super light recoil carbine. Will it make any difference?
Wouldn’t that pad fit any MDT buttstock? I want to get one for my 300wsm. MDT LSS gen 2 chassis with SCS lite buttstock.
i never bought into the cm hype in the first place
No mention of warranty here or one website? For a flexible 3D printed item at nearly $100, I think it's something that needs to be discussed?
Sig is your favorite rifle but no recoil pad 😢
Hurry up and get a Stag Arms Pursuit bolt action... you let dooodeedooo get one first!!!
Looks cool... BUT... you need to put units on your graph axis. How do we know the comparisons are accurate?
Or, at least put the two graphs on the same axis.
With the additional deflection of the new recoil pad, do you have to be even more careful to not get "scoped"?
What you're describing as the force over time is called impulse. Very similar to momentum, it's the abruptness of that pressure spike that feels like a punch, that you're turning into a push by spreading it out over time with the pad. And with the two different materials in your pad, you're essentially doing what the shocks and struts are doing in your truck suspension. I really like the throne idea - Weatherby got a lot of customer complaints with their first gen butt pad having issues when being stored in a safe.
Perception of recoil is very different from person to person as well. Very important to get actual math involved in designing something to reduce pressure (in PSI for example) on the shoulder. Time is very much a factor in that pressure and what is perceived by the rifleman. Honestly it's really the same ballistic principles in play in both directions, whether you're talking about bullet flight or rifle stock movement.
The audible pressure wave is also something that's going to change perception of the shooter, which in most cases becomes more dramatic with a muzzle brake, even if the firearm movement is reduced.
Eyes, ears, sound concussion, and finally stock punching the shoulder. It's several human senses suddenly becoming pounded.
@@exothermal.sprocketI remember spotting an AR-50 Mark Westrom was demonstrating years ago at Cp Atterbury for a Crane sponsored event, and even that was difficult due to the muzzle blast deflecting back onto my brow, causing me to blink every shot, missing the impact. Found out how important where you lay next to a braked gun is important.
@@anthonykaiser974 Would wearing some good stout goggles help with the impact of the blast wave across the face, shielding the eyes from it? Maybe that would make no difference.
@@exothermal.sprocket maybe, but it was hitting my forehead pretty good. Considering that a 50 BMG is pushing a bullet 10x the mass of 5.56 at similar velocities, imagine how much blast is coming back at you from an AR-50's clamshell brake. You just need to get out of the blast arc, and that puts you immediately to the side and slightly rearward of the shooter. I had never been a spotter before, so I was kinda hanging out a bit, not being comfortable being right on some stranger's shoulder.
@@anthonykaiser974 I guess it depends on the design of the brake. The "tank-style" brakes on BMG's direct pressure at a backward angle, I'd suspect that would be pretty intense standing beside the shooter to the left or right. Similar brakes like a 3 to 5 segment unit can direct the blast exactly lateral, 180° from the bore axis. I'd assume that would be much less blasty to the rear of the rifle.
If it does what you say it does (I’m not doubting your claims) then I believe you have done a good job on price point. $90 isn’t unreasonable to me. I’ll be looking to get one as you develop into other guns. Specifically Winchester model 70. And Boyd’s AT-one which is a cool wood stock but has a terrible recoil pad. The Winchester is from the 1970s and just has solid plastic, no rubber at all it and will bruise me if I shoot half a box of ammo.
Thanks Ben! Looking forward to expanding to having Winchester Model 70 and Boyd's At-One. We'll just keep spreading it rifle-by-rifle until we have everything covered.
Jim. Do you have a recoil pad for the Kel-Tec K-2000??? The factory built In pad leaves a mark on my shoulders after 20 rounds or so. That's why I don't shoot it often. If you made a add on pad, it would solve that problem. Please let me know. Thanks Roger.
Jim!!! Congratulations on producing a product!! This looks amazing and you’ve thought of so much. I’m impressed. I took my new Mauser in 7 rem mag out today and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little worried about flinching from how much harder it hits. This would be such an improvement. I love it!
I just ordered. I'm running a 7mm prc on hnt26 chassis with a suppressor. I'll make a video on my channel too
The thought 💭 time and engineering behind this is astounding Jim and Eric. Especially with the custom pad depending upon cartridge and rifle. I also like the Throne idea. That’s extremely handy.
One of the major reasons why I didn’t get a 300 WSM in a Tikka T3X Lite was how sharp the recoil is compared with others. I ended up with a Savage M110 Long Range Hunter which is two pounds heavier and has a muzzle brake. Not bad recoil, but super loud as you might expect.
get this recoil pad with your savage will be a magic reduction and easier to enjoy option.
Now you do this to a 6.5 cm then you have a rifle thats even more fun than before. Although I’m not trying to add a bunch of weight for the hunting I do.
Looks like a "better mousetrap" design! Beware of using muzzle brakes. Not only are they loud, but very dangerous for people on either side of you.
Product Costs $90 for any one wanting to know.
Not having numbers on your chart can be a red flag. You used numbers collected from your accelerometer and pressure sensor to measure the felt pressures, yet none of those numbers ended up on the charts. Which could mean you measured the recoil in this case in deferent scales makings your product appear beneficial. Additionally at the end 23:33 you said it was hard to have a way to have a standard value to measure.
Based on the excitement you have I don't think you intend to deceive the customer. However a Customer can't make an educated decision on your product when they don't have stats to compare themselves. Also I don't think you mentioned cost, I had to go to the website.
I don't own one of the supported models, but someday may try one. Maybe you should consider having a slip on version like Limbsaver and kickeeze has for more universality. Then you don't need the cage for storage, just take it off.
Exactly what I was gona say
I've got a no name universal recoil pad and it's actually incredible. My 308 with the accubreak
shooting 175grain terminal accent feels like .223 recoil.
I hear marketing; “dial-it-in to the cartridge”. If that’s true, how do you compensate for rifle weight? By your own example, just adding a scope reduces recoil, so how do you dial a heavy rifle in a caliber versus a light rifle of the same caliber? Just for perspective, shotgun shooters have had custom recoil pads for decades that are tailored to reduce recoil and provide consistent accuracy at much less $cost. Precision shooters know recoil management greatly affects accuracy and the recoil pad is part of that process. I wish you well and hope you are successful just keep it real..
I appreciate most people on TH-cam. It’s a tough business and damn sure hard way to make a living. Google certainly likes to take their share. It’s great to see someone not only creating content but creating a product. I don’t have any of the rifles that you currently manufacture for but I have submitted a request for two very popular ones that I’m sure will be coming soon. ❤
Simms limbsaver recoil pads work wonders, figured that out almost 15 years ago. When my daughter was 12 years old and wanted to shoot my 45-70 and they work, she loved shooting it. I since have bought several of the simms pads, particularly the slip on pads, pull the original pad off, slip the new one on. My favorite use is on my 3 1/2 waterfowl shotgun, makes testing new loads enjoyable. I’ll look into your pad but but it’ll take a lot to move me from the limbsaver pads
Was looking over their website and they already recommend the Limbsaver pads as the second best for those that don’t want to spend the money on theirs.
@@bmac9936 I’m glad someone else has come up with a good recoil pad, it’s a simple solution to heavy recoil I don’t understand why more aren’t making a good working recoil pads. I’m not recoil sensitive myself but as I get older
I’m liking a good recoil pad
The hard smooth edge on the recoil pad keeps it from catching on clothing when shouldering the firearm I believe, I’m am not a expert designing recoil pads 🙄
I hope that it will be easy to change out. the last recoil pad I had installed at a greedy gun shop, the cost was $240. labor plus the cost of the recoil pad right at $320.00. If you can change the recoil pad with a screw driver your self, your product will be a home run!
60 seconds with a simple screw drive
If the gun doesn't already have a pad, the stock will need to be shortened to keep the length of pull right.
Im the first person to be a cheap george costanza deal sniffer. However, I also recognize that with government fees, from permits and land taxes, to everything else, along with the fact that you have very low repeat business for guns (who really goes to get their gun fixed up by some other guy all the time?), they have to charge more. Its the same way that small manufacturers of limited goods charge more, and you think that buying it from a big mfg who produces 10,000x the items is cheaper and not price gouging you.
If you've ever heard the saying the first battery costs 50,000 and the 1 millionth costs a few pennies, you understand how large scale operations can "hide" business operating cost from you. If you're messing with a gun shop you're in direct contact with actual economics and value, because they need to charge based on what it takes to make a tiny bit of profit while keeping their employees fed.
If you cant afford it, fine. But calling people greedy for charging for something you wont do yourself when they want to make a living just like you do is pretty tone deaf.
Just buy a quality rifle. They usually come with muzzle breaks, good pads, and good stocks.
If you need to use "reduced" rounds, then choose a smaller caliber. DUH.
Love it guys. Well done!
You're going to have trouble keeping up with demand, and you're going to need people.
What would be good is if companies start licensing the product from you and selling it with their guns
Maybe boyds, etc.
What's the Y axis values on the chart? You can make 1 ft-lb "literally blast off the chart" if the gridlines are in increments of 0.2 ft-lb. Chart without values comes across as being really sketchy
If you want a really good muzzle brake, the APA Hypertap is AMAZING. Probably the best brake out there
Cool product guys…. I appreciate the passion yall bring to the table. I’ll be keeping an eye out for these! 👍🏻
See that only 3 gun companies are supported by you at present. More to come. You mention that 8 hrs are spent on a lathe producing each pad. Ok, Question is, have you considered those of us that have a modified stock? Why not have me remove my recoil pad, create a template of my stock base, send that to you to cut a pad shape to?
That recoil pad on the HNT is garbage. I went thru the same journey with a 7SS bare muzzle. Added a modified limbsaver and a brake, then a suppressor, and topped it all of with a baby ATACR. Much more pleasant to shoot. I believe you are the first to bring a dedicated pad to the MDT shape buttstock and it should fit everything from the XRS to the ACC. I've been emailing limbsaver to make one, but you beat the big guys to the punch. Well done!
Love your channel and this looks like a great product. For transparency the before and after graphs need to at least have some values put to the y axis. The way you are sharing these they could be completely different value ranges or units making one graph look much worse than the other.
Exactly my thought. Without values, that chart doesn’t mean much to me.
Comparing the no load readings shows that they are clearly different ranges--the readings before the shot on the "standard" graph appear to be around 3-5x higher than the same period on the new recoil pad graph.
Without numbers on the graph it is just a misleading picture
This is what drives innovation!!!!
Congratulations on your creation!!!
Until recently I had never shot a rifle equipped with a suppressor. About a month ago or so a range near me hosted something like a mini-shot show. The called it "Gunstock 2023".
So I had the opportunity to shoot a bolt action.308 with a suppressor on it. IMO, the suppressor didn't so much reduce recoil as it slowed it down so there wasn't such a quick recoil.
Awesome work!!!
Have you tested accuracy before and after pad. Wouldn't expect change but you never know?
Wow as I've gotten older I've gotten more recoil shy. I am really interested in trying out your recoil pad. I really commend you and your crew for the effort you put in! I can't tell you how much I enjoy watching your videos.
Same here. I somewhat annoyingly really like the 6.5 creedmoor for big game hunting or anything with a suppressor. Limbsavers are my friend too.
As long as the cost is worth it. If it's up past 30 buck why?
So u will have to buy the odometer for the recoil pad for it to work right. Just the. Cost will be outrageous of course just for a recoil pad. Way to much headaches for just trying to get a good recoil pad. Maybe for long range shooters that dont even hold the gun either the hands they hold them in visas and every adjustment is made by an object instead of the shooter and then the shooter barely touches the trigger lol. That is not shooting that is just math problems that the shooter still doesnt do all his computers cell phones and everything but the shooter figures out lol. This is ridiculous I am sorry but this item wouod be good for them
Then why have a recoil pad for a shooter that dont even touch the gun but with his finger.
Hiw much$$$?
Please make one for the Magpul PRS stock, would be cool to be able to run these on AR-10s. I realize they don’t have a ton of recoil to begin with, but anything that makes follow up shots easier in a combat/2a scenario is a force multiplier
Literally my first thought was my .450 bushmaster I just built lol.
My Aero M5 AR-10 kicks like a mule
I use those slip on limbsavers on my PRS. They work great and honestly you barely notice it on there
@@joshuajennings2995 I fear when you say "kicks like a mule" it does not mean what you think it means :)
I’m not to recoil sensitive but I’m teaching my grandkids and I think this would be so awesome. I will definitely look into these
What happens if you change the scope or add a muzzle brake after you have the pad on. Will you need to buy a new recoil pad to account for the change?
My 7prc has a 26 inch barell on it I run a can on it it feels like 223 recoil none at all
The title of the video is incorrect: there are absolutely still excuses to hunt with a creedmoor. For example: my reason for hunting with a creedmoor is because I already own one, and in order to hunt with another caliber, I'd have to spend money I don't have on it. That's a fine excuse.
You’re right. Not my best title.
This looks very interesting. I'd love to see Gavin from Ultimate Reloader do a video on this with their recoil testing rig - although I can fully understand as Jim said, a Human shooter vs a piece of steel are not the same.
One day when I get my own 7 PRC, I think this will be a great option to kill off the recoil! Well done Jim and Peyton, looks like an awesome product.
Gavin never reviews anything he doesn’t like. I don’t think I’ve seen him review something and give it an honest thumbs down. Not saying this would qualify, just saying he’s rather biased.
glad I became a subscriber a couple months ago. looking at getting a 7 mag at the end of next year, I'll probably be getting the recoil pad before then!
I ordered a recoil pad this eve for a Tikka T3X Lite Veil Wideland in 6.5cm. I had already put a limbsaver on it for no other reason than just because. At 70 years old and having shot for 62 years at least, recoil has never bothered me and still doesn't. I have shot 300 Win Mag, 270 WSM, 45/70 guide guns, and Marlin .444 and everything in between. However I enjoy Backfire and want to support Jim, hence the reason I ordered a pad for a 6.5cm. I also sent a note for a rifle I would like to add one on which is a Fierce Carbon Rogue in 7 prc which comes with the Limbsaver. Best of luck Jim!
16:23 i actually like this design but more for my shotgun or any rifle that you have to draw fast to the shoulder, while hog hunting with dogs for example. Very soft and grippy end of the pad tend to stick to the clothes and it makes it harder to lift it to the desired position, if my english makes sense..
Hey Jim, I have a question about the pad and fit. I received a rather brutal shoulder injury a few years ago that has really limited my hunting, in fact I am currently awaiting a specialist to examine my shoulder for rebuilding surgery here in Canada (a wait that will likely be another year,...or two.). I have shot a modified Lee Enfield .303 ( old Cabela's composite stock ) since I was 16 usually in 180gr SP as we typically hunt for Moose and occasionally Elk if we get a ticket from the draw. I am also planning on purchasing a Zastava M70 Full stock in either .308 or 7mm-08 and would like to know if the upcoming release of pads in January will have a pad that will fit both or at least one of my rifles? I know this sounds like I'm a wimp but I assure you my shoulder is basically being held where it is by the muscles and not the joint anymore, and my freezer is looking mighty bare. I would like to remedy that next season. Thanks for the fantastic content and for being an active and articulate voice in the gun community. Best Regards - Dave (56 yrs old, experienced Hunter and Shooter)
This is probably a silly question, but have you tried adjusting your current rifle and doing any target practice with your non dominant side? Personally I know I suck with my weak side in any position by comparison, but if I have a good bench/tripod/tree limb I can make it work it just takes me a little longer to be happy with the shot. I know I would rather be a little less effective if I were in your shoes and still be able to hunt, cant imagine having to take that long off over a medical issue. Wish you the best with your "hunt" for a solution!
@@1bobharvey Thanks, I have tried to shoot from my off-side and It's just not a comfortable solution for me. My hunting has been hampered for a couple of issues, the first in that list was that I became an amputee after losing my lower right leg to type 2 Diabetes. But that only slowed me down by a year. I was actually shooting my hunting bow (a Monster-Bow Dragon) when I felt my shoulder really tear and the decision was made that I now require the shoulder surgery. (Canada's once proud healthcare is in a bit of a shambles right now) So I am on the list for when a spot opens up in the cue. And it has been a frustrating and maddening experience not being out right now! I have a blind and a chair and can hunt cut lines if nothing else, at least I'd stand a chance at a Deer or Moose.
@@canucklehead0 ya thats rough man. A buddy of mine lost his dominant arm in a logging accident and now uses his left arm and eye. He made a tripod setup that mounts to the handle bars of his 4wheeler and just goes and parks where he has good sight lines to make it work for him as he cant shoot without a rest only having 1 arm... although I have seen him use a tree limb pretty effectivley a couple times. Good luck with the surgery when you can finally get it.
@@1bobharvey Thanks, I'll get back into it, just a matter of time!
I tried this recoil pad last week and it absolutely works! Buy with confidence.
Looks like a great product and you guys have put a lot into it. I'm looking forward to trying this out on a Texas rifle. Maybe my 300 PRC.
Excellent video!Congrats to the entire team. It’s about time the rear of the rifle was, finally and properly, addressed. We’ll be doing business after the first of next year
Good luck gentlemen.