Best All-Around Rifle and Cartridge Combo For Hunting - Season 3 Episode 1
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- Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! In this episode, I answer listener questions about the 243 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.8 Western, and the best all-around rifle and cartridge combo for hunting.
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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3006 Springfield is the most versatile cartridge especially with the modern bullets and powders available today making it one of the best for all North American big game from deer to big bear and moose and elk within most ethical hunting distances.
Winchester model 70 30-06 and 94 30-30
I could not agree more!
Good combo
Yup, killed more shit than cancer.
They certainly have put a lot of meat on the table over the years
Lmao
You need to interview Paul Harrell, and Billy Molls.
I sold both of my 7mm Rem Mags. I now use a Tikka .308 and honestly, it does everything my 7's did with less recoil, lighter to carry, easier to find ammo for and less expensive! I used to have a 30-06, but sold it to a co-worker as my .308 does the same thing the 30-06 did with a shorter action which I prefer. Basically, any decent hunting rifle chambered in the popular hunting calibers will do the job on any game you desire with the proper bullet construction and shot placement. Most people don't realize they already have the "Best All-Around Rifle" in their closet or gun safe. Pick the combo YOU PREFER and happy hunting!!
I still kick myself for selling a super accurate Rem. 700 in 30.06. Moose, Dall Sheep, Caribou, Black bear, deer, one shot anchored and dead. The 7mm Rem. Mag, super accurate, same game animals, bang, hit, stand, and finally die. Bullets for both Nosler Partitions. Something about those 30 calibers.
Actually, every cartridge has an optimal bullet weight for delivering the most energy down range. For the 7mm Rem mag, that's 150 grain. That 150 grain 7mm bullet is easier to shoot than the optimal 180 grain from a 30-06. And on top of that, the 150 grain 7mm bullet still delivers more energy down range from the increased speed. That being said. If you want to shoot heavier grain bullets, like greater than 180. 220 for instance. The 30-06 is the way to go.
and that's why it's in the safe and not in the field. 30-06 all the way
I have a Tikka and a Savage 110 in .308. One thing I've noticed about my Tikka, which I love, is that I'm glad I picked the 6.5. My buddy has the same T3x in .308 and it kicks more like a .30-06. My Savage kicks noticeably less. Both are excellent rifles.
@@shperax A non factory 7mm with a a 1-8 twist barrel shoots a 168-180 bullet better than most. 3050fps in mine. This is recognized with with the 7PRC. A 300 win mag will shoot 212gr bullet 3000fps. This has been improved with the 300prc. 6.5 CM shoots a 140gr bullet perfectly. 308 and 30-06 work too.
30/06 or .270 Win either one is so versatile.
Got both. Love both.
After using most of the magnums early on in my hunting career, I bought a JC Higgins Model 50 chambered in 30-06. I’ve since fallen head over heels in love with the old 30-06. If there is a better all-round hunting cartridge, I don’t know what it is. And with todays bullet technology, it’s even more effective. My big magnums all sit in the back of the safe now days. The 30-06 is all I need.
I fell in love with 30-06 once I bought my m1 garand
I found a Winchester Model 70 in 30-06 for $400 at a local pawn shop. After shooting it I quickly could understand why it was my grandfathers favorite. If I had to choose one rifle for all my medium to large game it would be that Model 70 in 30-06.
Jack O'Connors wife even used a 30-06 with a 220gr solid for elephant. One shot all it took. It really is the one I would go to if I could only have one hunting rifle.
@@AndrewP-fj8rn Elephant doesn't really count. Pretty much everything up to the 500 Jeff, just drills a hole. Lots of them have been taken with the 6.5.
If I was shooting an all around rifle, that included stuff up to elephant, it would be a 9.3x62. Kicks like the 300 Win, hits like the 375 H&H.
7mm-08 is the best all around for freezer food(Pronghorn thru Moose) & Black Bear too.
Hands down. Without any question. The tried and true father of many many cartridges.
30-06. PERIOD. !!👍😃
Amen, brother!! 👍
You mean the Mauser?
@TXLorenzo You're confusing action tyes and calibres here. Mauser are bolt exceptional actions, while the .30/06 is a superb calibre as proven by over 100yrs of field use. 👍
@tim7052 There was the Mauser before the 3006. In fact Springfield was taken to court to pay royalties.
@TXLorenzo Yes I know!! The Mauser G98 BOLT ACTION was the culmination of 30yrs of development and manufacturing by the Mauser brothers, whilst the .30/06 Springfield CALIBRE being introduced to the US Army in 1906. This thread is about calibres, so I'm confused why your first post mentions a type of action.
The 30-06 makes the most sense but I love my 7mm-08 and my 270 Win.
My old BDL in 30/06 would get the nod because it doesn't matter what or where I am in the lower 48, that there gun will get it done, as I will not shoot over 300 yards at a game animal anyway.
The three do-alls that I would choose are the 6.5-'06, the .30-'06, and the .338-'06. As for just one? The .30-'06 for sure.
Great choices i liked the 25 06 30 06 and 35 Whellen. But now it is 6.5 06. 30 06. Either 338 06. or 35 Wh.would work once you get above200gr. Bullets and fater diam. Good for the nastiest beast In N.A. 6.5 06 is a better choice than 25 06. These choices took yrs. to come to. Plus they all use 06 casings. Good luck ad good hunting.
Mystery hunting trip?
30-06 with a variety of ammo.
always did the job with confidence.
There's so many good cartridges, but from Deer to Moose, a 30-06 being as common as it is, can take down just about anything in North America without much trouble.
true but it is a bit overkill for most deer the .308 win makes less of a mess and gets the job done but if i am taking down a grizzly i want the .30-06
@@williamwofford2503 All you have to do is light load a 150gr to match 308 for deer. Many factory loadings are offered for this reason alone. The good part, is you can load up 180gr accubonds for larger game.
@@Condor1970 good point
It's going to be the old try and trued ,,30 06
agreed! why go anywhere else?
That is definitely a good one.
My choice since my youth.
My friend once summed it up as "I hate the .30-06... it just makes everything else obsolete!" Of course - his primary rifle is a .30-06!
I'm in the same boat haha. The .30-06 is incredible, but it's a little boring to me because it just does everything. Personally, I'd love to rather have specific cartridges and rifles for specific uses, but at the moment I only have a .308.
The *only* thing that would be more versatile than the .30-06 is the .375H&H. One can load it down with 250gr or lighter bullets and if wanted, lighter powder loads as well for smaller game. 250-270gr for the larger species and 300gr+ for the biggest game including Elephants in some of the African countries that allow the .375H&H on them.
308 = 30 06 same but different. A 100 fps difference on average with the 30 06 being slightly better but the 308 can be used in a shorter action.
AAAANNND, you just named the all-around best cartridge the other week; the .358 Winchester!!! Now we just gotta have it make the comeback!
Not many people know it but definitely a good cartridge
"Beware of the man with only one rifle" They are all good. Practice, practice. Love your videos. Clay
But don't discuss any thing with him about rifles, you know what his answer is going to be
Agree with Bobby, I'd have to take my 30-06.
Have had it around 45 years and I'd like to think I can make it work.
Oh, it's a Remington 700. It's never failed me.
30-06 or 308 are my "go to" all around good cartridges.
I found that my .22 mag is accurate and perfectly capable for coyote and head shots on turkey and rabbits.
I knew a man that poached elk with a 22 mag, not once, but many times.
I've seen a head shot on a Moose (a gorey mess) too. I love it where it's legal.
Yeah I feel like the 22 mag will blow up about anything so far. It’s a wild cartridge with alot of pressure
.22 mag is a great caliber
7mm08 for me all day
Seems one of the best rounds out there! So versatile and great down range with less recoil.
One way to pretty much resolve any issues with interchangeability of .223 and 556 NATO is to have a gun with a 223 wylde chamber
This chambering is specifically designed to be able to shoot both cartridges accurately and safely
Or have one chambered for 5.56 NATO. Problem also solved.
@Nick-wn1xw except when you have exactly one, 100 dollar bill left. And it's food or ammo. And .223 is on sale at costal for 94.99 for 150 rds.
Hi Ron,
Wow, 3rd season already. Keep up the good work and all the best to you and the family.
Cheers, Jeff
Good choice on the .338 win mag.
Great video Ron, enjoyed watching! Sometimes I just listen to your podcasts while walking, but either way great information!
Always pleasant and oh so entertaining. Keep up the good work.
30-06 or 9.3x64... Or, whatever you practice with and are most comfortable using. It's hard to argue with success, regardless of caliber. Just ask a 275 Rigby hunter.
Ron , I may not be a fan boy but you still represent what ethical hunting is all about to me. I don’t always agree with you but you sir are a gentleman and I respect you.
Lately there has been folks that try and belittle you and your efforts but you are always welcome in So. Oregon. Stick to you guns buddy as a lot of us are still “shooting straight and hunting ethically “ - if ya know what I mean.
Ron is always a great watch. He’s educated, experienced and concise. Just overall a pleasant watch. Keep it going Ron! Thank you!
Really, Scot Grange and You are great together!!!! Play it again Sam !
Thank you Evan.
Love the show thank you
always a pleasure
I'm kinda with the majority here. 30.06 is so versatile. From mild to wild and everything in between. The bullet selection really helps this out. It can do brush hunting AND reach out and touch stuff that the .338 Lapua can do as well. Pretty good IMHO.
I figured there would be more .270 win guys! I run a 300 wsm but it’s over kill. Always had a soft spot for a fast twist .270 win.
I have been primarily hunting with a Browning A-bolt 270 for 20 plus years. It was the second rifle I ever bought. The first was a used Sears and Roebuck 30-06. I sure loved that gun, but sadly it burned in a truck fire. I prefer the aught six to everything, and I have roughly 40 rifles in various chamberings. I only own one 30-06 today though. It is a CMP M1 Garand that I don't hunt with. Now that I think about it, I need to pick up another bolt gun in 30-06...
Thanks for sharing the differences between .223 and 5.56. Very helpful
love reading comments, as it shows the passion that is waning today. the "best" deer gun for me, is one that will never see the woods again. My fathers 1949 model 94 Winchester..30-30.
Thank you very much. Enjoy your videos.
I love your show you have a world of knowledge and I appreciate you sharing it with all the rest and my go to rifle is the 30 ought 6
I LOVE my Ruger #1 in .25-06. I love my Ruger #1 - the action is smooth, the wood is gorgeous, the fit and quality peerless - I bought it in the '70's, and find it aesthetically perfect. I love the .25-06 - a .30-06 cartridge capacity, which I think is the perfect .30 caliber cartridge - slinging a light bullet flat as a pancake at high speed. I guess I love my Ruger #1 in .25-06!
Craig Boddington ... super nice guy, humble and genuine. Great interview candidate
Thank you for your professional and unbiased reviews. It is like a breath of fresh air to listen to your reviews because I know I am getting a professional review without any fluff. Keep up the great reviews and God Bless you.
Id love to see you and Mike from USOG neck deep in stories. What a treat that would be! 🙏
Clearest, most concise explanation of the .223/556 Nato differemce I yet heard. Thanks!
The 30-06 is still king of the "all-around" cartridges. People may have different preferences and opinions but that doesn't take anything away from the 30-06. It can and still does it all.
Hey, Ron, thanks!
Very nice explanation of 5.56/223 issues!
I find your channel's format and the abundance of quality information very attractive.
I appreciate the great content you've been putting out.
For all around general purpose rifle cartridge. Well since 1906 it has been the 30-06. There are some with a longer range and there are some with bigger bullets, but as a compromise the -06 does it all. This is especially true if you reload.
With heavier 220 grain bullets it will take the bigger game. Of course for bison and big brown bear there are better specialized cartridges. After the 30-06 I would likely go to the .375 H&H magnum round if you live in alaska or canada. But if you can shoot and know how to stalk the 30-06 will do it all.
Model 70 Winchester is a great choice with all the different models and bullet choices.
Ron, I found your channel midway through season two. I enjoy all your videos, but have no suggestions for interviews. I agree the guys at UR are entertaining. Cheers 🍻
I must side with the 30-06. An 06 with a box of each of 150, 180 & 200 grain bullets of proper design would cover every medium to large game animal hunt in North America. That has been proven many, many times over. As you stated it is the shot placement that brings home the bacon, not the caliber. Yes, for big bear I would go with the 338 or the 45-70.
If you haven’t interviewed Tom River from Simple Living, please consider him. The two of you have the most informative and entertaining channels online and I bet you and he think alike. Thanks for your contributions to shooting sports!
Ron, great job analyzing the .243 "light" bullet being effective if appropriately placed. Also, can't keep my eyes off the lovely color of Fox hanging on the old weathered wood background.
Where I live there are no deer or elk. There are stinking bear - too many actually, but I don't consume them. We have the occasional caribou, but no season to hunt them. So MOOSE, I hunt moose. I use my 308 win up to 300 yards. Any farther away and I use hunters skills to quietly sneak up on them and make an ethical kill. Another great session Ron. Stay safe and vigilant.
you are a hunters- hunter my friend. I feel the same way. Shooting skills are necessary but hunting skills are what really put the meat on the table! .308win is a good old cattridge!
@@Leif1963 Thankyou. Please stay safe and vigilant.
Loved the Hickok45 interview
I'm no great hunter but for me I would take a .30-06 with a 180 to 200 grain soft point boat tail bullet. The heavier bullet retains velocity and energy over a greater distance than lighter bullets and the lighter recoil of the 06 is easier to manage.
The .30-06 is likely to handle 150 grain bullets better than the heavies.
The 165gr bullet has the best ballistics. Energy is fantastic and drop is the least.
The 180 is THE one to take if going after unknown large game...
130g in 30-06, gives a lot of the benefits of the 270 and more than adequate for deer sized game. 180 for Elk.
I was a big fan of .270 my mod. 70 Winchester was my go to for years until started collecting most of the 06 spin offs now I'm sold on my 7MM -08 for white tail. less recoil and less damage to back side shoulder if not a clean shot.
.308 / .30-06 will bring down any hooved game animal on North America. Proper bullet selection and shot placement apply. In MODERN rifles, the .30-06 can be loaded up to equal the 300 Win Mag with half the recoil.
Can you give some advise on how to get there ? I currently load a 168g Barnes TTSX with 48.5 grains of IMR 4064. MV is 2820
I love the guys over at Ultimate Reloader. I think you and Guy Miner would be an excellent show. Gavin is the man, but I think a show with Ron and Guy would be a treat!
I second this. Guy is a wealth of knowledge
I always feel like Gavin is trying to sell anything and I have reservations that any endorsements are to that end. Guy seems to be a bit more down to earth in that respect as a counterpoint. I think they'd make for an interesting discussion.
Yeah would be interesting especially since guy is a fan of the .308 and Ron b would rather eat bags of di"(s than admit to using a .308.
@@jacktrout5807 you must not be watching Ron yet this week.
@@russvaagen3004 oh I've seen his recent .308 stuff he's only doing it because he has run out of negative content and .308 is still paying his bills.
The 6.5 x 55 mm Swedish Mauser or the 7 x 57 mm Mauser are great all- around North American calibres. The Savage 110 cambered for either would make the ideal rifle\ calibre combo.
Love the 7x57mm mauser. Wish it was more popular.
Both great calibers.
The Mauser is just an excellent rifle any way, no matter the caliber.
I have a yugo mauser that I'm gonna try to deer hunt with this year. I'm gonna rotate between that, my garand, steyr m95, and winchester model 94. Like a lottery on what deer gets shot with what
Peeeeyeeew...no savages for me...
The 30-06 in most bolt actions like the 700 or 70 with a simple 3x9 will do just about any job. I really like my 250 Savage Rem 700. For what I'm hunting it more than does the trick and it doesn't recoil as much as a 243Win which is also a good all around round from chucks to whitetail deer.
Love the ol .250 Savage.
I would love to see you and Boddington together. That would be a dynamic duo!
Having owned and hunted with 243,6.5 creedmore,32 win.spl,350 legend,30-06 and 300 wm.if I had to pick 1 caliber only to use for all of my hunting,it would be the 30-06 all the way.
I have a model 94 in 32 special. What a useless cartridge. 3 bucks a bullet for a a special 30-30
@@monkeyman122009 Total agreement! Ammo availability and accuracy issues from the get-go in my now former Marlin 336. Why depart from what works, get a .30-30.
30-06 or 4570 are arguably the best medium to large game and dangerous game rounds for north America pedigree wise. They are old but still the gold standards in their respective areas for a reason. Both have stuck around for many many decades for a reason
.45-70 and “best” and “gold standard” should never be used in the same sentence. The .45-70 was mediocre.
@The Practical Rifleman it did exactly what it was designed to do. And in modern loadings can and will take any game animal on the planet. Its taken hippo elephant and all the other dangerous game in Africa and the Americas. As a dangerous and large game cartridge it was the cartridge of choice for a long long time. It still is for many. The combination of being chambered in so many handy rifles and the ability to tune the cartridge to your game of choice still makes it a significant player in the hunting game. Its why its stuck around for over 140yrs.
Ever heard of the 300 win mag, 300 rum, 300 weatherby, 300 Norma mag or the 300prc ?
@Alex Moore sure.... what about them? The 3006 was introduced in like 1906. The 4570 is over 140yrs old. The 300wm was born in 1963 the 300rum 1999 the weatherby in 1944 the norma in 2012 and the 300prc in 2018. And other than the 300wm none have really stuck around as being remotely popular.
Nobody said popular or prevalent was a consideration , you said 'the best" and "gold std" and even though you are certainly welcome to your opinion, I merely answered your opinion with 5 or 6 facts as to why you're wrong
Hello Tom, good day to you. I’m happy to see the accuracy you are now getting out of your beautiful rifle. I think you can achieve your 1/2 MOA at 500 yards, 5 shot groups in 3 or under chances. Good luck & God bless.
😎👍
My 25/06 with a ballistic nosler has served me amazingly since 1996. REM 700 BDL Sendero fluted barrel. ❤
great video.
Africa it’s the 375 and in America one of the 7 mags or 30-06 as well as the 300 mags
GREAT CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pre 64 model 70 in 30/06
I'm a fan of .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor for cost and availability of premium ammunition. 30-06 and .270 are also similar. I'd be happy with any of those and pretty much any modern bolt rifle is pretty good.
It’s good to hear someone who really knows about guns and ammo,
Where was this?
Mystery Hunt... Not knowing how much climbing or brush work might be involved, I might be tempted to size down a little on the platform and would lean toward the 338 Federal... Hand load some varied round combinations, and take the lighter shorter rifle with some confidence for a wide range of scenarios.
.270. Good show Ron 👍👍
In an age of 11 pound bolt action rifles, I would suggest that the sweet spot for a hunting rifle is the 24" 7.25 pound sporter. Not too heavy, not too light to hold steady, barrel doesn't heat up super quick and move POI, 24" barrel keeps the noise away from your ears and gives a 'free' 120 fps over a 20" barrel in your favorite cartridge. What's not to like? I think it's called a 'Standard Sporter' for a reason.
I’ve found the Winchester 130gr ballistic tip in my 270wsm to be my favorite for white tail never been let down by it.
At abt 19:40, on the comment about 6mm 55BT, you touched on hydrostatic shock. A tidbit to add: Fluid compressibility becomes a factor at arnd .5 Mach, which means hitting an animal made mostly of water at over 2400 fps (impact speed, not MV) there will be some energy transferred to the watery parts, especially blood. 3800 fps at the muzzle is abt .8 Mach so at most game shooting ranges, you'll get a significant added "zap" besides the bullet expansion characteristics. An old Jaeger I hunted with used 93 gr pills in his 6.5x68 on pigs. His description, "Wie Blitzen!" Was accurate!
9.3x62 is my choice for all around hunt. That is .366 bullet with less recoil than 300 win mag. and had been working hard since 1905 on anything from deer to dangerous game. Love you show Ron. Greetings from Serbia.
Unfortunately 9.3x36 is hard to find here in the states
It’s not too bad to find in Canada
Never shot a 9.3x62 cartridge b4 but would
I’m a 30-06 guy for all the big game I’ve hunted but there a pretty big round that can do a lot of work
@@colton72395 35 Whelen is a good compromise.
There are Tikka Rifles out the wazoo on Gun-Broker and locally where I reside, so it is a local issue for him that his dealers do not want to carry them.
Mr. Spomer, you are such a joy to watch. I thoroughly enjoy watching and reading all of the content that you put out. I honestly believe that you are the greatest outdoor writer of this generation...by a landslide. Thank you. For the record, I would have hedged my bets a little more and went with the 300 win mag. You have me by a few years, and I guess wisdom comes with age...
Thank you Jason! I really appreciate that. By the way, nothing wrong with the 300 Win Mag. It's a world beater.
The best all around rifle I have ever owned was a Weatherby Ultralite in .338-06ASquare. Loved that thing - light, easy kicking and accurate enough. I decided I needed a new trap gun so sold it, along with its brother, a .257 WM Ultralite, and have regretted ever since. I had a super accurate Weatherby FiberMark in 7mmWm and loved it, too, but as I got older, it was getting too heavy for this old guy to drag around the hills of Washington. I think the best of both worlds would be an Ultralite in 7mmWM. The 7 is based on a necked up .257WM so it is not a bad recoiler.
I deer hunted a few years with a .22-250 and a winchester 55 gn ballistic tip. Every deer that I shot fell. I was shocked by it's performance. It was a Remington Sendero with a 26" bull barrel. I had to give up the heavy rifle due to the weight and combination of bad knees. It made long stalks and walks to the stand more painful than the lighter. 243 and .270 that I have now.. I now hunt with a .243 and a .270, but I'm still impressed with how my .22-250 performed.
.308 can’t be beat. Reasonably priced and available at gun stores nationwide.
I'm not a hunter but from my reading around it does seem to be very good for sensible hunting ranges. Lots of different bullets available too.
I have enjoyed hunting with both the ruger number one and the Winchester 1885. My biggest complaint with the ruger number one is being able to mount the scope far enough back to not have to crawl the stock so much to get to the scope. On a ruger number one chambered for the 450-400 nitro express, I mounted an intermediate eye relief scout scope in standard rings and it worked perfectly. Don't have to worry about scope bite with a safari cartridge when your scope has 9 inches of eye relief. It was much easier to mount the scout scope on the number one than it ever was a standard scope with 3 to 4 inches of eye relief. I never had those problems with the 1885/B78.
I commented on BackFire’s video on the 6.5 CM that it was a fad and wouldn’t last. He got so upset he made a video and was calling me out. Looks like he’s eating his words now. The old standards are old standards for a reason-a long reputation of solid performance.
Jim from Back fire. Is full of it. I quit watching him all to gether.. he said a 308 out shoots a 06. Which is not true. He seems to spew a lot of not accurate statements. I watched the interview he had with Ron all he did was agree with all Ron had to say. He may be a good att. but not an authority on rifles. Good luck and good hunting.
@@wadeparker6091 After that stunt, I couldn’t watch him anymore. There’s a lot of opinions and not facts with biased views.
Hey Ron! Really enjoy all your content. I would love to see an interview with Gunblue490 and yourself. Also I really enjoyed when you read read some of your old articles and hunting stories. Dessert dog outdoors would also be a good collaboration. Thanks for all you do.
Gunblue 490 is a Great suggestion. I hadn't thought of him when Ron asked. I would love to see that interview as well!!!
Who in the $
Wow, you know more than anyone I've ever known. I subbed.
When the 5.56 was accepted by the military they used a 55 gr bullet. They wanted to get a higher velocity than the 223 could in a 20 inch barrel. This reguired higher pressure. To safely use this higher pressure they lengthened the throat to give the bullet a running start before engaging the rifling, same as Roy Wheatherby did with his cartridges and rifles.
After a few years they found the 55 gr bullet at longer ranges wasnt as effective as they liked. They came up with the 62 gr bullets. They still loaded to the same coal. Still needed the long jump to rifling to keep pressures under control.
They continued to develope heavier bullets for target shooting which required faster twist rates, as fast as 7 inch twist. 8 seems to be popular for most rifles.
The cases are the same, the chambers are slightly different. The 223 uses a tighter neck and throat diameters as well as a shorter throat. The 5.56 has the neck and throat a bit looser because of ammo manufactures tolorances, especially over seas producers. They want to be sure the military rifles can shoot ammo from most anywhere. They dont worry about reloading spent cases. 223 shooters often reload so oversized cases from military rifles can cause issues.
There have been several chamber mods to better allow use of both cartridges in a rifle. The most popular is the Wilde chamber. It uses the tighter neck and throat specs of the 223 but has the longer throat of the 5.56. This lets the rifle shoot both cartridges safely and be slightly more accurate with 5.56 ammo.
223 Wylde barrel to solve the whole issue with 1 in 8 twist covers it.
Through my own experience I choose my No.4 Mk.1. From deer, hogs and one very ornery bull I've never been let down by the .303 British. That and if the first round doesn't do the job there are 9 more where that came from.
my father loved his too , he called it the poor mans magnum After he passed i took his rifle out to the range to try it for myself and was very impressed with it too .303 British is an awesome weapon
Thumbnail cartridge silhouette looks like a .303
Yes , 30-06. Still hanging tough!
I did drop a black bear, one shot right behind the ear with a 180 grain from a Remington model 7600 30.06 pump gun.
Have been using nobler ballistic tips in 165 grain for3006 for 20years love them for deer
Ron for the .17-.223 AI he should be able to neck down a 223 then fire form the case. He can then send the case in to have dies built or just send measurements. It's not overly hard to do
And Ron says .338 Win Mag! My big game rifle glad to see it back on the shelf. It can handle just about everything. Then his Ole trusty 7mm lol
1903 Springfield in 30-06, simple as
I just went with a 300WM, good all around option that can do it all. There are better options with better BC for longer ranges, but out to 500 yards, it's good enough. I think the 277 Fury will change the conversation once available in more rifles and more widely available now that it is the round of choice for the US Army. Better BC, more efficient than the 300WM beyond 500 yards, but still capable inside of 200. Going to take some time for the round to show up. Sig can't even get the Cross out the door with the 277 yet.
Hey Ron love all your videos. I was wondering if maybe you could do a video on the 300 Savage. When I was in high school back in the early - mid 80's I had a friend who's grandpa owned a Savage model 99 lever action chambered in the 300 Savage. I loved that little rifle. It was a light, compact rifle and the short throw lever made it fast to shoot. The 300 Savage cartridge was a great little round too. It had mild recoil and plenty of power for the short range hunting we have here in the NW NC mountains. I'm not sure if anyone even makes rifles or ammo in the little 300 anymore. I'd love to hear about the history of the 300 Savage and why it never achieved much popularity, because it was a great little round and the model 99 was a perfect little woods rifle. I know that you're the man for the job. Your knowledge and insight is priceless. Thanks for keeping the hunting rifles and cartridges alive and well for all the cartridge nerds like me. I've actually been a cartridge nerd since I was five years old back in '73. I even had a pretty good collection of different calibers until I unfortunately lost literally everything I owned in a house fire back in 2004. I escaped with a t shirt, sweat pants and my life but everything else was literally just gone. It even destroyed a Papa Bear King coal burning stove. That's hot. But I still have my life and that's priceless. I'm looking forward to your next video because I never miss a single one. Thanks for all you do for us hunters and shooters. God bless and stay safe 🙏
The reason 300 Savage never took off was because 32 years later Winchester introduced the .308 Win and by sheer volume it dominated the short action .30 caliber market. It’s a good round, I have the exact rifle you mentioned, my grandad gave me his, but for someone who doesn’t own one, looking for a new hunting rifle, it’s like picking between 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 PRC.
30.06 nothing beats that
30-06 has always been my go to for all the big game animals I hunt but I do use a 7mm stw for long range
I use 30-06 for everything. Just takes reloading ammo and more precision with your math tables
I like 30-06 my self but it doesn’t perform as well at long ranges like 7stw magnum but I did hit a deer at 886 yards with a 06 I just had to aim really high the farthest I have shot the stw was 900 on steel and I can do that shot quite easily with it with 06 I miss a few times unless I’m lucky
@@henryofskalitz2228 to your point thought I don’t reload I use factory ammo so with factory ammunition this is the case for me if I got good at reloading I could do the same with a 06 no issue but at long range power becomes a concern
@@colton72395 it mainly depends on your powder measurer, and what .30cal bullet you reload with. I tend to use a 200g nosler bullet over 55.5g of IMR4831. gives me pretty good groups at 800 yards. I also use #210 federal magnum rifle primers
8x57 mauser and 200 gr bullet gets the job done.
Always my favourite pig hunting
⭐️ Hey Ron ✌🏻😎🤠 @RonSpomer on the .223 and .556 topic you are right, the cases are the same dimensionally but if a guy shoots a .223 out of a .556 the case will fire form to the chamber dimension, which in turn does make the case different dimension than a .223 chamber dimension and in the case of reloading it is important. But personally I like to full size die all my cases for saftey purposes in case a guy interchanged the fireformed neck sized .556 into a .223 chamber its likely it would get stuck in the chamber. 😫 which always makes for a bad day! Thanks kindly for all your videos Ron. My daughters and I truly enjoy!
7mm Magnum. Always has been always will be.