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Excellent from start to finish. You showed more information, technique and quality in 6 minutes than I have been able to see in 6 hours elsewhere. The video quality was superior to many others too. Thank you.
Did I just see what I think I saw? First, cutting the traces with absolutely no burr raised in the copper; a notorious material to machine. Then, milling the solder mask so precisely that the copper underneath appears unblemished. This is pure magic! I’m going to have to get me some of those cutters. Magnificent video!
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Best video of homemade PCB that I ever seen. Excellent result! The UV solder mask solution was what I was looking for. Now it's time to buy this CNC engraver. It's not expensive.
So in a nutshell, Step 1: Design the PCB Step 2: Mill out the traces (from a blank, copper-laminated board) Step 3: Apply solder mask (to protect the exposed traces) Step 4: mill the solder mask off the contact pads (to allow you to solder components onto their traces) step 5: Drill any necessary holes and cut out the PCB Step 6: Protect the now-exposed copper contact pads from corrosion with tinning solution PCB DONE
It is little bit pricy, but when I compare this video and some other cheaper Chinese CNC that I have, the end result is just awesome, I still can't believe that this is done on CNC. It makes me think again to try this one :)
Actually, if you compare it with more expensive machines, It doesn't look bad at all. Not expensive, costy I would say. Can't convince my boss to get it >,> I'll have to get by with a cheap one.
We are not the kind who think things too much. After a few hours, we are already buying one :v We don't need it to be that precise, we just need to improve and speed up our prototyping. We liked the Voltera though, thanks for letting me know.
I wanted the same few month ago, and ended up buying small CNC for that, but it turns out it was useless, I was getting much better and faster results with simple photoresist dry film. This CNC looks very precise, but lack of automatic z-axis sensor can be pain in the but :)
This is impressive, it looks like it freshly came out of my manufacturer! I didn't realize CNC's were precise enough for you to remove the solder mask without drilling through the 30µm (or so for 1oz IIRC) of copper. I'm also wondering what you used for the tinning, will that properly make your through-hole pads connect from front to back?
Just beautiful ! I would imagine that the setup cost of the equipment is high to start off. Maybe not really meant for the hobbyist. But we can dream .....
Great method. I was looking for a engraver/drag method of removing resist without using UV/overlay to avoid needing to get a laser printer. Nice. Now I just need to find a 30° bit that is setup for springs for ER11 setups...
you can buy rivets on ebay and stick them in the via holes to make the connection from one side to the other that is what i have done in the past with homemade double sided boards
I never considered using a spinning tool to remove soldermask. I've been using transparencies and acetone.Your approach is remarkably superior. My cnc machine doesn't use a set-screw for its tools, it uses a collect chuck. Do you think the spiral engraver and spring combination will still work?
Hi and thank's for your video. Too easy because simple side. But your milling and drilling methods seams to be well improved and reliable. I'm beginning the tasks of "electroplating through holes" at home. With my CNC i'm just drilling holes as a first operation. I etch with the paint burning method using a laser.
@@larrybud hi I use Candle, the newst version, in that software you can update the firmware of the control board candle is the same software than GRBL controller with some upgrades
1. What are the dimensions of the PCB? 2. How long did it takes from start to finish it all? 3. What about the vias? Did the tin solution connect the top with bottom layer?
OK, I'm missing one important thing - but before that, great video - and very cool. So there are no through hole components, only surface mount? No internal planes for ground or power? Nothing on the other side? Then plating through the holes is not important and I understand the demo, although I wish everything I would ever lay out or design would be that simple. Still, it was impressive, and looks outstanding - and accomplished your design task obviously. Good machine also. I would not mind having one myself! Thanks for the video.
Hello, thank you for your comment. The PCB is only for demonstrative purposes. So you are right, there are missing some components. We are currently preparing the video about double sided PCB. Stay tune...
Yes, we used the spiral bit and the V-bit....all you can see on our website wegstr.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=61. Feed rate is 170 mm/min.
I am quite jealous!!!! that looks amazing. i was hoping i could get some advice. i purchased the white variant of that paint. exposed to to an led array i made of 99 uv 390nm leds bought on ebay, and left it on over night. in the morning half of the uv paint stuck to the transparency and it was not fully cured. what am i doing wrong?
I really like this. But I assume the one thing you don't have a process for her (besides printing/screen) is plating the through-holes, right? I assume the through-hole components here wouldn't work without you then soldering both sides, and that vias wouldn't work at all? Tinning would just cover the copper.
Milling the solder mask seems strange to me. How did you calculated its exact thickness and how did you ensured that you milled away just the right amount of solder mask? I your milling depth was was a bit wrong you would either mill the copper pads or you would leave a thin film of solder mask that would cause problems when soldering. Please clarify.
вот. нужно брать под себя( размер , комплектация ) . Еще рекомендую посмотреть видео про них, много подводных камней, которые нужно учесть при покупке. ru.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-1610-500mw-laser-tube-diy-cnc-engraving-machine-Pcb-Milling-Machine-Wood-Carving-machine-cnc/32719998036.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_10343_5722611_10340_10341_10543_10698_10696_5722911_5711411_5722811_10084_5722711_10083_10618_10307_10301_5711211_10059_308_100031_10103_5711511_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_5711311_5722511_10125,searchweb201603_32,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=912a05f5-5dd6-44d8-819c-586eb533c042-8&algo_pvid=912a05f5-5dd6-44d8-819c-586eb533c042&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0
Velmi pekne. Uz len sietotlac nejak dotiahnut a bude to uplna bomba :) Otazka: preco sa uklada vystup do BMP a nie do nejakeho vektorgrafickeho formatu (napr. PDF)? Nebola by to lepsia kvalita? A len tak mimochodom co je to za roztok, ktorym sa ten plosak pocinuje na konci?
Dobrý den, máte pravdu hned při dalším videu budeme výstup ukládat do jiného formáta aby se neztrácela kvalita. Ten roztok na konci videa se dá běžně koupit je to cínovací lázeň která za pár minut chemicky vytvoří na povrchu mědi tenkou vrtstvu cínu.
Excellent from start to finish.
You showed more information, technique and quality in 6 minutes than I have been able to see in 6 hours elsewhere.
The video quality was superior to many others too.
Thank you.
The quality is impressive.
thank you very much :)
fuck this shit the best video on pcb making .....
yea
Absolutely the best I've ever seen. Wow.
helloworld
Did I just see what I think I saw? First, cutting the traces with absolutely no burr raised in the copper; a notorious material to machine. Then, milling the solder mask so precisely that the copper underneath appears unblemished. This is pure magic! I’m going to have to get me some of those cutters. Magnificent video!
So awesome! I'm impresed with the quality!
Wassuappp guys wllcome back 😂
That is absolutely fabulous! Great job.
Thanks!
Hi
I would like to know if this works for heal welding paste?
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B018C71QHI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496107658&sr=8-1&keywords=QUANS+110V+20W+UV+Ultra+Violet+High+Power+LED&dpPl=1&dpID=51Gx6Lp91VL&ref=plSrch
This would work to cure the UV solder mask as it outputs UV light if you are unable to leave it outside to cure.
Joop Brokking Hey it's great to see you here. I think you'll build this thing in your next project, as you selects the best project
Joop Brokking
i can't believe how perfect this turned out
The best quality pcb milling I've seen thus far.
That pcb locks at least as good as if it was produced by a professional pcb manufacturer. Maybe even better...
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hi i watched many video of making pcb but i have to say this is the best video i have seen wow i love it sooooooo much
thank you
Tak tohle mně dostalo. Coby strojař a obdivovatel cnc, smekám. Dokonalé, nádherné, perfektní PORNO. LÍBÍ !!!
Best video of homemade PCB that I ever seen. Excellent result! The UV solder mask solution was what I was looking for. Now it's time to buy this CNC engraver. It's not expensive.
I could watch this thing make boards all day.
То же самое я делал в 70-х годах прошлого столетия.Только вручную и резаком. )) Прогресс...
Просто вся суть в том что ты делал, а этот чел только сверла менял )))
One of the best boards I've seen, stunning work.
Thanks for the comment!
Absolutely beautiful. The milling of the solder mask is awesome.
that is the beautiful thing i have ever saw in pcb creation
Muito além de uma simples placa, uma obra de arte.
Meus parabéns ao cara que fez tudo isso 👏
So in a nutshell,
Step 1: Design the PCB
Step 2: Mill out the traces (from a blank, copper-laminated board)
Step 3: Apply solder mask (to protect the exposed traces)
Step 4: mill the solder mask off the contact pads (to allow you to solder components onto their traces)
step 5: Drill any necessary holes and cut out the PCB
Step 6: Protect the now-exposed copper contact pads from corrosion with tinning solution
PCB DONE
Was looking for a comment that summarizes the process... Cheers!!!
мой мозг от таких видео улетает в нирвану you super
The quality of your board is amazing! Very good indeed, congratulations!
На это можно смотреть бесконечно. Шикарная точность и качество.
Perfect home make with high standard method....unbelievable
Very professional, congratulations. Thumb up.
Tak to je hustěkrutopřísný :-)))) parádní prácička...
Diky :)
Amazing man.... using domestic items and making PCB...
Yes, everyone has a CNC milling machine under their beds
Amazing!!! The creator is very compent. Congrats
To WEGSTR CNC : perfect and professional : I desire to have it. !
Very nice video that gives a great view on how a very professional PCB can be made in small quantities and short turnaround time. Thanks!
Just wanted to remind you that TH-cam has a no porn policy.
Outstanding video work. And what a awesome cnc machine!
now I just need a job to be able to buy that CNC machine x'D
Damn good! I can't even tell the difference the factory made and this one.
Very good quality video, thumbs up.
Paráda (y) Jen tak dál!!!
great video. what brand of soldermask did you use?
great!I watched the video several times. This process made me very happy.
Quedó muy prolija. Felicitaciones!
The real thing looks better than the simulated one. Nice job!
I'm truly enthral by your video. i always like unique things, innovative things. thank u so much for uploading such professional quality stuff.
What a cool use for an Arduino!
Look awesome! Now I want one of this CNC machines ;_;
Отличная технология pcb. Спасибо
Great!!
But very expencive
It is little bit pricy, but when I compare this video and some other cheaper Chinese CNC that I have, the end result is just awesome, I still can't believe that this is done on CNC. It makes me think again to try this one :)
Actually, if you compare it with more expensive machines, It doesn't look bad at all.
Not expensive, costy I would say.
Can't convince my boss to get it >,> I'll have to get by with a cheap one.
I would think twice if you plan to use cheaper one for PCBs, it won't be that precise...maybe to take a look at something like Voltera One
We are not the kind who think things too much.
After a few hours, we are already buying one :v
We don't need it to be that precise, we just need to improve and speed up our prototyping.
We liked the Voltera though, thanks for letting me know.
I wanted the same few month ago, and ended up buying small CNC for that, but it turns out it was useless, I was getting much better and faster results with simple photoresist dry film. This CNC looks very precise, but lack of automatic z-axis sensor can be pain in the but :)
This is impressive, it looks like it freshly came out of my manufacturer! I didn't realize CNC's were precise enough for you to remove the solder mask without drilling through the 30µm (or so for 1oz IIRC) of copper. I'm also wondering what you used for the tinning, will that properly make your through-hole pads connect from front to back?
As it is not double-layer PCB the back side is not connected.
Just beautiful ! I would imagine that the setup cost of the equipment is high to start off. Maybe not really meant for the hobbyist. But we can dream .....
ȘTIAM. Sunt cei mai buni din Domeniu..!!! 😮😮😊😊😅😅🎉🎉
Great method. I was looking for a engraver/drag method of removing resist without using UV/overlay to avoid needing to get a laser printer. Nice. Now I just need to find a 30° bit that is setup for springs for ER11 setups...
Wow, as an engineer I hope someday I'm able to work with a company capable of making quality, just like this.
Pcb looks better from factory. WOW!
Dude! We are really living in the future!
what about via holes in double sided PCB
you can buy rivets on ebay and stick them in the via holes to make the connection from one side to the other that is what i have done in the past with homemade double sided boards
I was wondering if the tinning step took care of that, I suppose not.
The tinning "sticks" to the exposed copper, so there is not any copper inside the holes only around them, so the tinning does not stay in the holes.
I never considered using a spinning tool to remove soldermask. I've been using transparencies and acetone.Your approach is remarkably superior. My cnc machine doesn't use a set-screw for its tools, it uses a collect chuck. Do you think the spiral engraver and spring combination will still work?
It is not so standard combination to use the spring below the bit. But it works.
What about the double sided & Via ?
Вот это уже ближе к делу. Паяльная маска это хорошо ))
what synphony was used in this video?? I love it.
Bit lengthy process but absolutely gorgeous result.
Hi and thank's for your video. Too easy because simple side.
But your milling and drilling methods seams to be well improved and reliable.
I'm beginning the tasks of "electroplating through holes" at home.
With my CNC i'm just drilling holes as a first operation.
I etch with the paint burning method using a laser.
If only this cnc wasn't so darn expensive.
CNC 3018 PRO, it cost me 170 USD (shipping to México by DHL) on Aliexpress
@@XDFTube What software do you run to make pcbs? Do you have any videos?
@@larrybud hi I use Candle, the newst version, in that software you can update the firmware of the control board candle is the same software than GRBL controller with some upgrades
1. What are the dimensions of the PCB?
2. How long did it takes from start to finish it all?
3. What about the vias? Did the tin solution connect the top with bottom layer?
OK, I'm missing one important thing - but before that, great video - and very cool. So there are no through hole components, only surface mount? No internal planes for ground or power? Nothing on the other side? Then plating through the holes is not important and I understand the demo, although I wish everything I would ever lay out or design would be that simple. Still, it was impressive, and looks outstanding - and accomplished your design task obviously. Good machine also. I would not mind having one myself! Thanks for the video.
Hello, thank you for your comment. The PCB is only for demonstrative purposes. So you are right, there are missing some components. We are currently preparing the video about double sided PCB. Stay tune...
Congrats, very impressive (and beautiful)
Amazing quality...
When it is milling the PCB where does the dust goes?
The dust is cleaned by air
Very clean cuts. Which engraving bit are you using? Looks like a spiral V bit. What feed rate?
Yes, we used the spiral bit and the V-bit....all you can see on our website wegstr.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=61. Feed rate is 170 mm/min.
You make it look so easy!
Is it normal that I get relaxed when i watch PCBs being milled
The quality is impressive. what is the last chemical used?
super. very nice. quality is wonderful...
the final result is impressive
Best pcb i've ever seen
I am quite jealous!!!! that looks amazing.
i was hoping i could get some advice. i purchased the white variant of that paint. exposed to to an led array i made of 99 uv 390nm leds bought on ebay, and left it on over night. in the morning half of the uv paint stuck to the transparency and it was not fully cured. what am i doing wrong?
Maybe the layer is too thick or weak power of the UV radiation. We use 60W UV lamp.
background music is LIT😍
Второй раз смотрю красатище то какая аж матом не хочется ругаться
I really like this. But I assume the one thing you don't have a process for her (besides printing/screen) is plating the through-holes, right? I assume the through-hole components here wouldn't work without you then soldering both sides, and that vias wouldn't work at all?
Tinning would just cover the copper.
You can electroplate the vias but you'll need to drill the holes first and plate, and then mill the traces and mask.
Have you come up with a solution for metal plating the through-hole/vias/drills so that top and bottom layers are connected?
depends on what country you are in. afaik the good ways cant be done at home in usa due to drug war chemical bans
Milling the solder mask seems strange to me. How did you calculated its exact thickness and how did you ensured that you milled away just the right amount of solder mask?
I your milling depth was was a bit wrong you would either mill the copper pads or you would leave a thin film of solder mask that would cause problems when soldering. Please clarify.
Sprng tension milling technique ensures only light force enough to mill the mask and little or no damage on copper.
wow, ver good job! How does the engraving bit with the spring work?
wow amazing...
the software choose itself the best tool? or i have to set it manually?
you have to choose the tool manually according to your best desicion
wow, that is beautiful! :)
Hi, great video. How to realign the PCB to etch the solder mask? Tks
super, na prototyping uplná paráda, a navíc "z domova" . Jdu šetřit / nebo spíše vydělat_
That is impressive. What software did you use for designing your PCB?
all information in the video - Sprint-Layout and Cut2D desktop for toolpaths
WEGSTR CNC many thanks.
Which chemical are used for tinning
Hi, nice video! What is tinning? Witch sostance is? Thanks!
Hello, it is tinning liquid and it is good to protect the PCB before oxydation.
Very good quality, impressive. Unfortunately, the machine is very expensive for hobbyists.
Alexandre Verri , buy cnc like this from China . It cost near 200-300$
А название модели узнать можно?
вот. нужно брать под себя( размер , комплектация ) . Еще рекомендую посмотреть видео про них, много подводных камней, которые нужно учесть при покупке. ru.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-1610-500mw-laser-tube-diy-cnc-engraving-machine-Pcb-Milling-Machine-Wood-Carving-machine-cnc/32719998036.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_10343_5722611_10340_10341_10543_10698_10696_5722911_5711411_5722811_10084_5722711_10083_10618_10307_10301_5711211_10059_308_100031_10103_5711511_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_5711311_5722511_10125,searchweb201603_32,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=912a05f5-5dd6-44d8-819c-586eb533c042-8&algo_pvid=912a05f5-5dd6-44d8-819c-586eb533c042&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0
а что в этом станке плохого, того что по ссылке на алиэкспрес дали ?
его нужно собирать. мотор не стабилен и может давать вибрации на инструмент. для домашнего применения самое то.
Beautiful video demonstration!
amei o projeto . onde consigo cnc dessa ???
Generally, this board was done even after drilling. Places for soldering and roads of space were done.
Velmi pekne. Uz len sietotlac nejak dotiahnut a bude to uplna bomba :) Otazka: preco sa uklada vystup do BMP a nie do nejakeho vektorgrafickeho formatu (napr. PDF)? Nebola by to lepsia kvalita? A len tak mimochodom co je to za roztok, ktorym sa ten plosak pocinuje na konci?
Dobrý den, máte pravdu hned při dalším videu budeme výstup ukládat do jiného formáta aby se neztrácela kvalita. Ten roztok na konci videa se dá běžně koupit je to cínovací lázeň která za pár minut chemicky vytvoří na povrchu mědi tenkou vrtstvu cínu.
Diky za radu. Cinovaci roztok sa mi medzitym podarilo aj najst.
Great job ... what kind of liquid do you use for the UV mask?
it is just some common liquid bought on ebay
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391490889333?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Fine illustrated....
Maybe there should be a pen tool to write on text that is normally silk screened. Absolutely amazing quality though.
quality is amazing.....
I thought porn was banned on youtube
Nice toy. How about a handheld oscilloscope?
Which solder mask was used in this case? It is really nice and shiny.
Just common solder mask bought on ebay.
Thank you. Did you get it in a tube or was it a foil?
+Žiga Lausegger You can see that in the video. It was in a black plastic jar.
that was awesome friend!
How did you plate the holes? Also how does tinning work? Also I noticed a gold finish. So how is that made possible?
Holes done by drilling. Tinning work done with tinning liquid (10 minutes in that). There is no gold.
Just one word - woooow !!
im really curious about the type of foil used when puttin on the soldermask (transparent one)
just common plastic material + glass
tailored to perfection
Profesionally made 👍