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cheaper but precision is going to be heavily affected by the quality of the cnc you're gonna buy so I really recommend to people to be careful with this. Always get information about an specific cnc and a review if it's possible before buying it
The price is exorbitant without counting the costs of taxes, customs etc., you need to sell millions of printed circuits to recover the investment, in China there are very cheap machines with excellent finishes, it can even be done at a much lower cost. The quality mostly depends on the user as they have the parameters and above all patience to work. Thanks for the video, it's entertaining.
The aim is to do some very rapid prototyping. You could test that design the same day. It may not count to much but if you were to average 10 units of finished product the following year per day priced at say 100 dollars then effectively it has cost you nothing. It could take upto 6-10 days to get a pcb where I live. If there are couple of iterations then this extends to a month.
I have been getting amazing results from this machine for over a month. It consistently allows us to run a full prototype iteration in a single day from start to finish.
I have cheap CNC 3018 from China, what i've upgrated greatly (endstops, new spindle, new rails etc.). With using spiral mills (like on video) with angle 10 degrees and 0.1mm tip... thats pretty hard to dont destroy this tip. What mills are you using? It looks like pretty big tip in comparision to mine. Now i understand im using too thin ones.
Although I'm very impressed, £2,999 (excluding vat) seems a bit steep for a "at home" milling machine. This would be ideal for someone that's constantly making them, for a small business I would say. The finish and method does look damn impressive though.
Small business would get them etched, drilled, masked and tinned for $5 a piece at local PCB shop or for $1 a piece from china. The only reason to use this is when you already have a CNC and want to try to do a few boards.
If you want to prototype fast and run a few iterations a day then you have to go this way. This is the 3D printing equivalent of PCB making. For the final product it would make more sense to order from someone else.
@@BrightBlueJim Well I think you can see the PCB milling as a bonus. It is really hard to get PCB milling right on a CNC. It looks like a really high quality CNC for other stuff as well.
Dobry den, vidim ze pouzivate aplikaciu od firmy Vectric. Dokaze aplikacia spracovavat aj gerber data? Verzie z roku 2018 mali problem spravne importovat aj bezne vektorove pdf data.
Mostly you don't find answer for those questions you now even asking than going alone and setting it up by yourself by testing and errors learning.. i mean asking for cutting depth is so... what thickness boards you gonna use? It so much depending many things you can't just multiply what other one is using. CNC settings are for your own setup you need tweak yourself always.
Hello, can you tell me how do you export the PCB diagrams to Cut2D? I've seen some of your videos, and it seems that you're using Sprint Layout 6, but I wasn't able to export to a "vector" format. Also, if in any case you use KiCad or something similar, I pose the same question about the export. Thanks!
Did you solve your doubt? I think they are using the bitmap tracing option in cut2D. I'm also aware of the SVG or DXF export from Flatcam but I haven't tried it yet...
Someone spiked my coffee with something strong cause I just went to their website and could've sworn they want $3300 for this. I must be hallucinating. That's the only reasonable explanation.
Yes, you can. I use my CNC occasionally to make PCBs for simple and urgent projects but I have not been able to achieve such precision (track thinkers and gap width). Perhaps there is some room for improvement if I dedicate a few days to refining the process.
I wonder if you make a stencil of the traces and then cover the traces with wax and then do the solder mask if that will alleviate the need for trying to remove the mask with another process that could damage the part easily. The wax can easily be removed after the solder mask is cured and should not adhere to it.
could have used a toner mask during the green mask to cure only the areas not on pads. Then you would wipe the uncured mask from the pads and not have to mill away the mask. That seems like a wasted time. Nice video and work otherwise.
@@LanceWhitaker1 yeah I do have one but that not the point !! Not everyone have a cnc thus writing "at home" isn't logical at all And my cnc can't do this much of accuracy (they are removing the solder musk with it ) And you need to spend 2-3 grand for a matching like that !!! And even it's not worth doing all these
@@electroscientist4447 i get what you're saying, but i think they are saying it's possible to do at home. I have a little pcb mill that does a pretty good job for a couple hundred bucks. But i was mostly just teasing you anyway. :)
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beautiful indeed... i just don't see the "at home" part, but ok
from their site, it appears you can get their cnc at home for 3600 euros :/
@@AmeelBeesony BRUH
@@AmeelBeesony there are cheaper options
cheaper but precision is going to be heavily affected by the quality of the cnc you're gonna buy so I really recommend to people to be careful with this. Always get information about an specific cnc and a review if it's possible before buying it
3018 CNC, $200 and will do this job
The price is exorbitant without counting the costs of taxes, customs etc., you need to sell millions of printed circuits to recover the investment, in China there are very cheap machines with excellent finishes, it can even be done at a much lower cost. The quality mostly depends on the user as they have the parameters and above all patience to work. Thanks for the video, it's entertaining.
I think that by professional he meant the quality of pcb's and not the aim to generate profit from manufacturing them.
The aim is to do some very rapid prototyping. You could test that design the same day. It may not count to much but if you were to average 10 units of finished product the following year per day priced at say 100 dollars then effectively it has cost you nothing. It could take upto 6-10 days to get a pcb where I live. If there are couple of iterations then this extends to a month.
I have been getting amazing results from this machine for over a month. It consistently allows us to run a full prototype iteration in a single day from start to finish.
WoW that works really cool. When I remember the days I was etching a printed circuit board with an acid. We have come a long way.
That's not a pcb, that's a jewel !
Now that’s a PCB making porn ...
I have cheap CNC 3018 from China, what i've upgrated greatly (endstops, new spindle, new rails etc.). With using spiral mills (like on video) with angle 10 degrees and 0.1mm tip... thats pretty hard to dont destroy this tip. What mills are you using? It looks like pretty big tip in comparision to mine. Now i understand im using too thin ones.
so does it have to be pcb masking? or will screen printing ink work the same way. i’d love to do interesting colors
Cool. What is the machine called and brand model name? Also where do I get the engraver bit and hole drilling?
I don't see what vacuum you're using on your website, can you name a suitable attachment?
wow! that was clean!..
larry
Very, very beautiful! Awesome!
Seamless. Perfection.
what kinda cnc maschine do you use that can feel the surface of the PCB card??
please i also would like to know what is that machine you use to design PCBs...
How wide is the router bit? 0,1 mm or 0,2 mm is much smaller then I see here.
Sei fortissimo fratello ! Complimenti ... un artista !
Although I'm very impressed, £2,999 (excluding vat) seems a bit steep for a "at home" milling machine. This would be ideal for someone that's constantly making them, for a small business I would say. The finish and method does look damn impressive though.
Small business would get them etched, drilled, masked and tinned for $5 a piece at local PCB shop or for $1 a piece from china. The only reason to use this is when you already have a CNC and want to try to do a few boards.
If you want to prototype fast and run a few iterations a day then you have to go this way. This is the 3D printing equivalent of PCB making. For the final product it would make more sense to order from someone else.
@@BrightBlueJim Well I think you can see the PCB milling as a bonus. It is really hard to get PCB milling right on a CNC. It looks like a really high quality CNC for other stuff as well.
Thank you so much for sharing this video. It is incredibly inspiring. Great work!. Please tell us more about the machines used. Thanks.
Amazing cut and depth precision, but no board without plated-through holes can be called "professional" IMO.
Not every board needs to be double sided to be considered professional
Dobry den, vidim ze pouzivate aplikaciu od firmy Vectric. Dokaze aplikacia spracovavat aj gerber data? Verzie z roku 2018 mali problem spravne importovat aj bezne vektorove pdf data.
simply amazing!
what pcb design software you use for design this pcb circuit
So satisfying to watch.
How to use pads to cnc program?
Can i buy in s.korea??
Hi May I ask you about the name of the program that is designing the map
Very classy!!!
Absolutely beautiful
What if you tin the board before adding the solder mask? Would this help a little against corrosion from leaky capacitors or a battery?
doh
Very nicely done!!! Are you able to do double sided or even plated through holes? Vias are easy enough with rivets
Awesome work Big lk 👍 stay safe stay connected 🥰💯
Why do you use an engraving point to take off solder mask as opposed to just using a solder pad template while curing the mask?
this requires no materials outside of their sources, really like the spring bit and not having to worry about transparency.
Epic!
could you elaborate a little on this, what tools/bits were used, cutting depths, other settings? I wouldn't mind giving this a go.
Mostly you don't find answer for those questions you now even asking than going alone and setting it up by yourself by testing and errors learning.. i mean asking for cutting depth is so... what thickness boards you gonna use? It so much depending many things you can't just multiply what other one is using. CNC settings are for your own setup you need tweak yourself always.
I just watch this video when Im stressed. Dont know why❤😌
Haha me too, everything goes according to plan (literally plan)
@@757beko really🤝🤝🤝
Ye kounsa kemikal hai jisse plet banai jati hai
your milling machine is awesome
This is a pices of art
Hi, can you buy dragon 2020?
Does anyone know the name of the first song?
please how can i get a chlorude? not shown at our side...
looks good af
OMG. Amazing. 😊
Great except not everyone has some beast cnc at home :/
from their site, it appears you can get one at home for 3600 euros :/
beautiful thank you
Шикардос.
А где металлизация отверстий?
Hello, can you tell me how do you export the PCB diagrams to Cut2D? I've seen some of your videos, and it seems that you're using Sprint Layout 6, but I wasn't able to export to a "vector" format. Also, if in any case you use KiCad or something similar, I pose the same question about the export. Thanks!
Did you solve your doubt? I think they are using the bitmap tracing option in cut2D.
I'm also aware of the SVG or DXF export from Flatcam but I haven't tried it yet...
Beautiful. ❤❣❤
Excelentes; como consigo unas
great and at home at all 🤗
Very nice indeed.
What is the cost?? And learning curve??
The result is very nice.
¡Qué maravilla!
Exelente
아름답네요~~~~
Someone spiked my coffee with something strong cause I just went to their website and could've sworn they want $3300 for this. I must be hallucinating. That's the only reasonable explanation.
what software you have used to make the structure and design
thanks bro
At home?
watching this is so pleasant, I just watch your videos for entertainment.
Great Great Video ...Expensive but it Deserve to be ..
Excellent
the sound track is epic. beautiful results.
what was the film that he used when he put the solder mask on?
Any PTFE film will not stick to UV cured solder mask.
What is cost of that michine
Perfect👍👍👍👍👍
Alguien me podria indicar como se llama la broca para remover la mask soldering y donde puedo conseguirla
Gracias.
How u get "zero" and probing after mask?)
The mask doesent cover the full PCB, so i guess you just probe the bare copper part again...
Nicely
yesss!
Beautefull resut
US$3900+... Make your own instead. Very impressive, very accurate, but really, it is too expensive.
Well, depends on who benefits from it.
Home?
Can't you just like use a cheap cnc to do this?
Yes you can, CNC3018 = 200$ { amnazon},
DXF2 gcode = free
GBRL control = free [ for 3018 ]
& KicCad = Free.
Yes, you can. I use my CNC occasionally to make PCBs for simple and urgent projects but I have not been able to achieve such precision (track thinkers and gap width). Perhaps there is some room for improvement if I dedicate a few days to refining the process.
What’s going on at 7:15? Tinning process?
Liquid Tin. Search for it on Ebay.
In my experience, it sucks to solder on though.
Nice
YES. AT THE END ITS EPIC EUREKA BGM. LOL. 😂
thank u
Mantap luar biasa
it is the best in the market
Great machine, I would like to buy one, but this is too far and importing for the cost is not viable, I really liked it, perfect!
Beautiful. Just not at home. At least not in my home.
amazing but very expensive
I wonder if you make a stencil of the traces and then cover the traces with wax and then do the solder mask if that will alleviate the need for trying to remove the mask with another process that could damage the part easily. The wax can easily be removed after the solder mask is cured and should not adhere to it.
or you can use actual masks of pads so places where soldermask shouldn't exist don't get UV light and harden. After that you can wash the excess off.
Thanks For Everything
yes yes..., at home
i notice the thing cannot do vias , shame they dont show how that's done
Same here. And how do you do the lower side?
You have to manually add them, and that's time and cost. In another video they have, they are shown applying them.
Супер!
What is the music used starting at 7:20? Genuinely curious
Молодцы
If you rotate them 45 degrees, I think 12 or 15 (?) will fit, instead of 8 💡
they’re circles, why would that change anything?
From where to we get this machine pl. Can u tell me
wegstr.com/CNC-Wegstr-(English)
Where is the home part you bullshit....?
Наверное точнось у этого станка микронная
suuuuuper
Что за трек номер5 ?
..if you have 3,190.0 € to spend.
plus VAT
could have used a toner mask during the green mask to cure only the areas not on pads. Then you would wipe the uncured mask from the pads and not have to mill away the mask. That seems like a wasted time. Nice video and work otherwise.
Smarty pants!
But it's a nice demonstration that you can just remove that thin layer with the machine.
what bit is being used at 3:18 ?
Rugular end mill
@@paewookyung thanks
cool, so how deep do you cut the copper, and then after how deep do you cut the mask, but don’t go through the copper?
👍👍👌👌
Yeah that right boy everybody got a cnc at theirs home
You don't?
@@LanceWhitaker1 yeah I do have one but that not the point !!
Not everyone have a cnc thus writing "at home" isn't logical at all
And my cnc can't do this much of accuracy (they are removing the solder musk with it )
And you need to spend 2-3 grand for a matching like that !!!
And even it's not worth doing all these
@@electroscientist4447 i get what you're saying, but i think they are saying it's possible to do at home. I have a little pcb mill that does a pretty good job for a couple hundred bucks. But i was mostly just teasing you anyway. :)
@@LanceWhitaker1 🙄🙄🙄🙄oke