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I Was Really Looking Forward to This - Switch, Wii U, & PS2 Emulation - Win600 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2022
- The Win600 is the first Windows handheld from Anbernic and it is currently their most powerful device to date. In this Win600 review, we take a look at the controls, build quality, PC gaming performance, and emulation ability of the Win600.
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Win600 Specs
CPU: Athlon Silver 3050e
GPU: Radeon Graphics
RAM: 8GB DDR4 (1 slot)
Storage: 256GB m.2 SATA
Battery: 39Wh
Display: 6" 720p IPS
Network: Wi-Fi 5
Bluetooth 4.2
OS: SteamOS/Windows 10
Calibration data from Portrait Displays: www.portrait.com/
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Addendum: I attempted to notify the company about the issues that I found in this review two days ago following the same process that I have used for the last 2 years. Instead of asking for clarification as they have always done, they decided to allow their PR/Official Discord mod to attack me on the official FB page of the company. Said person is now advocating that I be barred from being able to independently purchase products from the company. This is would be an unprecedented and highly anti-consumer move if done.
For the record, I have reviewed 15 products from this company and only didn't like 3. I even daily drive the release that came before this two weeks after the review.
Pretty disgusting. I will not be purchasing any Anbernic products in the future.
How many MHz is your RAM Stick?
RG353p is a great device and has been my go to for travel and on the go gaming
Anbernic is such wasted potential. They were one of the first to the market (with modern portable emulators) and had a fanbase that they could have carried to new generations of handhelds. Instead, they put out all these mediocre products and most of their customers are moving on. In a few months, you should be able to get a much better option at around the same price. Another pass from me.
Wow, if they barr you I will NEVER buy from them again. EVER!!!! Anbernic hear us we'll, WE WILL BOYCOTT YOU!!!! Forever!!!
Anbernic is like one of those companies that turn into a case study at business and management programs. How a company once on top of everything lost it all in just one year.
There's always a stupid manager in control that messes everything due to their ego. Usualy the owner's son or daughter..
@@Guilherme1Lelis which is why merit based system always triumphs. Nepotism is cancerous.
Less than a year*
@@Guilherme1Lelis Lmfao you watch too much movies
I know the 352 is great I play mine all the time.
But it did take awhile for handheld systems to get to that level at an affordable price. I'm guessing in a year or two we will have much better options.
For a long time I thought that Anbernic had hit rock bottom with the RG552 due to the bad and unthought-out ergonomics of the handheld (shoulder buttons). But with the Win600, Anbernic has managed to repeat the SAME mistake with the bad ergonomics (using the stick and operating the shoulder buttons at the same time) and as if that wasn't bad enough, in my opinion Anbernic also demands a much too high and very cheeky one Price for the service offered. It almost seems to me as if Anbernic is trying to compensate for their previously unachieved sales and profit targets with each additional product through an even poorer price-performance ratio. And that WITHOUT even paying attention to the most important point of all: THE BUYER 🤷♂️ That the buyer really has a good feeling with the handheld in the end and that especially in relation to a reasonable and fair price. Anbernic has achieved this goal with the RG351 series. Now Anbernic only draws attention to embarrassing actions against Taki Undo. This is a very weak signal from Anbernic. Thanks for the effort 👍
Agreed. Other channels in this space gloss over the negatives. A few of them just feel like content farms, regurgitating specs with B-roll and little more. Taki actually reviews the damn things! Thanks Taki.
@@Wheelman2004 other reviewers get stuff with better built qualit. They gat Lenovo ram and SSD while we get glowy ram and SSD. Russ from retro game corps and eta prime said that the joysticks were very uncomfortable. Russ nearly hammered down the point.
Why do you people keep suggesting people like Russ and ETA Prime refuse to point out negatives of these devices. They just haven't ran into these issues on their ends yet or may have not tested and noticed these particular issues yet.
Looks like hes paying to price of being honest now too. Such a shame from Anbernic. =(
I really wanted to like this and if It was $250 I would have been tempted. It seems their are a number of issues however and it isnt the super cut price steam deck I was hoping for. Please continue your honest independent reviews and ignore what Anbernik says, Good review
Good review but I bought GPD WIN MAX 2
Damn Taki was like a parent seeing their kids failing grades 3 times in a row.
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AND having a new child that got A+ with no prior studying on his first exam (AYN and Odin).
It's pretty crazy how far and fast Anbernic's fall from grace has been. They went from one of the best, if not the best, company in this space to one of the worst in about a year. Makes me wonder if there was a leadership change somewhere or something.
It's arrogance man, they've basically turned into a shittier version of GPD. Besides, it sadly doesn't surprise me.
I find it happens a lot, they companies tend to get complacent. Or it could also be new managers etc too, we dont know what goes on behind the doors.
I honestly love how honest Taki is. It's hard for anyone to receive tough criticism. I get it. I'm not perfect either. If you are running a company tho, you want your customers to get the best item. If it's budget, the best budget item for your customers. Good job Taki btw.
It really is unfortunate that Anbernic started to drop off after trying to go for bigger devices and power. I feel like the RG351MP was the peak of their handhelds, but I have yet to get my hands on the 353 and I feel like I'd really love it.
The 353p is fantastic. It's kind of a bummer this new device is so bad. :/
This is around the power and price of a 2nd hand GPD Win2, which hasn't such touchscreen issues and is much more comfortable.
A modded and tuned up GPD WIN 2 is still an amazing device. Only issue is you have to reinforce the hinges and preemptively buy a replacement battery. Other than that. It is great. I really hope the GPD WIN 4 is a follow up to it. I hated the route they went with the GPD WIN 3. Even more infuriating was it not having proper analogue triggers and a 6" or bigger screen.
Great review, you don't see many of this quality on TH-cam. The companies response is disgusting, will never purchase anything from them.
What was the company response?
@@dhmboi1273 See the pinned comment from Taki
Hi Taki. Thank you so much for your unbiased review. I always like how brutally honest you are and your practical outlook on these products. Please keep up the excellent work. I look forward to all your future videos.
Thank you so much!
Got this for Xmas 2022, specifically with the knowledge of all the ‘cons’. But I got it for 2 reasons instead of a Steamdeck, Ayn Odin or any other (and really the only good reasons to get a Windows handheld over something like a Retroid Pocket 3+):
1. Runs full-fledge Windows, handheld. So any special app or service you have that’s Windows-only, you now have a solution for. Plus if you’re an IT guy, having a relatively compact PC in your pocket for tech tasks over your home network is awesome.
2. Play arcade-y PC games on a nicely sized screen with built-in controls, natively. Games like TMNT: Shredder’s Revenge, or Dynasty Warriors or Street Fighter V, all play so much nicer on Steam with this than mouse+keyboard on the desktop.
3 (bonus). Bigbox: If you prefer the Bigbox or Steam Big Picture UI’s and want a practical device to show them off on, this is perfect.
The Steamdeck is a redundant, ridiculous mammoth of a handheld- it’s meant to stream AAA games from your desktop, yet it’s got the horsepower to run them anyway? Back in the 90’s people made fun of chonkers like Gamegears and Atari Lynx’s, and now this thing dwarfs them both. It’s just so overkill for what it’s meant to do.
So this, at an affordable price and with a solid build quality and modest specs for great battery life that can run what you want locally while streaming heavy-duty stuff from your desktop, and being more compact than the Steamdeck, is why I got it even knowing all the ‘drawbacks’.
I play my RP3+ for retro gaming and PS5 streaming, and the Win600 for all the heavier and quirkier stuff. In summary: there is a pretty good use case for this thing, that the competition is a little overspec’d and overpriced for.
Glad you're happy with it.
Im looking at the 3020e model.
Would suit my needs. But still not sure yet 😁
Well, no more anbernic handhelds for me in the future.
Stupid move...disgusting behaviour
After seeing this Video the Win600 is done!
A bad handheld AND anti-consumer practices? I'mma head out (over to better companies)...
My god, it's a bigger dumpster fire than I could have possibly imagined. Thanks for the amazing review and keeping it real.
These Switch Analog stick are simple, cheap, and easy to mount. But boy do they feel shitty to play on. Definitely a bad choice.
I think if we could get a controller grip accessory for the Win600, the analog stick issue wouldn't be a problem
The screen touch issues are a bad ground plane issue. There’s something wrong with the shielding in the device between its general circuit structure. Perhaps the charging circuit doesn’t have enough of gap between it and more sensitive circuits like the capacitive touch. So that any time you introduce electricity into the unit via charging there’s some kind of electrical bleed. Even if it’s just electro magnetic that is throwing off the touch sensor.
I was doing a multi point of sale installation of iPads for a client. Their old set up had the iPads in metal security cages. But they cheaped out on chargers and cables. They had also tried to secure the cables through the metal cages. This meant that while using the iPads the touch screens would glitch and pull the input half way across the screen from the intended button press. Changed the cables, and removed them from being threaded through the metal security cage. And it fixed it.
For the anbernic the issue is internal on the circuitboard. It’s also possible that because they don’t have an inner metal separating plate to use for RF shielding/grounding.
I’m wondering if inserting a metal shielding layer between pcb and lcd would fix the screen issue. Even EMI foil shielding tape, with a capston tape layer over the top for electrical and heat insulation….
Are you really a John of all trades? 😁
@@Pridetoons indeed
I see more bad then good about this device I was considering buying it but ill hold off for another device that's better built. Thanks for being very honest and let the rest of us know. What is a better option then this one around the same price value?
Steam Deck
The AYANEO Air as it is shipping out next month.
@@SEVENTEENPOINT1 the Aya Neo air is over 500$. The good ones are above 1000$
@@shlokshah5379 This thing is 400 and even the not as good Air at 500 has twice the GPU cores and 4 more physical CPU cores and 8 more CPU threads. On top of that the Air has an OLED screen.
I got a bit shocked when I heard your voice after you mentioned you were sick at the time of recording. You sounded more like Russ from Retro Game Corps.
You see ... sticking a Windows button where they've stuck one tells me that it would be so very damnably easy for these makers to include 6 face buttons.
General public doesnt care about 6 face buttons. Aside from the genesis mega drive and saturn don't really need this tbh. Modern fighting games will accommodate Xbox controller inputs.
I agree with you though, I want it anyway. playing n64 would be nice this way too actually.
You definitely need 6 face buttons playing N64 would be a lot easier.
The one thing they were known for which is build quality is slipping badly.
The 351P, even though plastic, was built like a tank. Sad to see them slump to this POS Win600.
I really, really like your honest review. Your points sound very reliable.
This just screams $250 price. $300 maybe given supply issues and being a new design they had to invest time into, but the sticks are awful and the various screen issues really make it a problem child. I’d rather sit in the queue for a Deck, or save my money and go for one of the devices launching at the end of the year. At least if the new ones have similar screen problems, the control layout and APU performance will be much better.
Let's buy 2 AYN Loki Zero for the price of one win600
Anbernic have absolutely no right charging the price they do for an unfinished product like that, especially with the screen issues.
Hard pass from me...
If it were 200 bucks I'd consider it, but absolutely not for 400. So many better options in that and close to that price bracket
The AMD loki mini model will likely blow this thing out of the water for almost half of the price. I can't imagine actually buying this given what's coming out very shortly. Anbernic has probably permanently damaged their reputation in this community because of this device, and there is no one to blame but themselves. Hopefully they take the criticism well and have devices that are actually competitive down the pipeline.
Yea, the Lokis will probably come 6+ months after, but it's still a better deal
This and the RG552 definitely have tarnished their name. It seems like they haven't released a single GOOD device since the RG351 series.
The Loki Zero and Loki Mini will blow this thing out of the water.
@@benYtocamelo2000 The RG552 isn't for everyone but it's still a good Handheld. It's just incredibly overpriced.
even the loki pro dude
I'm about two years latter for a comment like it and i can guess someone already should had mentioned something close to it, but judging by previous experiences i had in about 23 years dealing with tech issues, the cursor/mouse thing you were showing around the 20:30 mark used to happen a lot on cheap laptop PCs. Things like it used to happen due to static and/or bad groundings.
Surely a design flaw, cause it should had been predicted when enginering a portable device that was thought to be used unhooked from anything that could discharge some of its own+user self generated static, even if just for a couple minutes - my guess: no metal parts or/and propper wiring.
Thats a trick i stumbled into many years ago by accident; a thing that can help anyone with similar issues at anytime on any device - being it a touchpad, touch screen, controller or even traditional mouse random flickerings - to troubleshoot it better and pretty simply: took of your shoes and sometime even socks, left aside any carpet and put your bare feet at a cold floor while touching the issued device screen/pad/cursor/control/case (NEVER do it touching its boards and internal hardware EVER!!!).
It should make yourself acting like a ground wire to device and slowly you should be able to see the "crazy pointer"/"not accurate mouse" issue going out until it work as intended - until the device get enough accumulated static again to interfere with its functioning.
You should try batocera on win 600 it's incredible battery life also longer and doesn't get hot.. you are going to change your mind about price
got my unit today and notice i have a heating issue the fan is not turning on and the unit is overheating on the left side on the screen - I email the company and awaiting for a reply
Update their sending me replacement parts
Hopefully soon I get this thing back on track
And I still bought the winn600 :/ ..
An honest review so that
I know exactly what to expect..
I love the challenge...
Thank you Taki....
I got one to!
waste of money, but you do you
@@pedr0_m198 I may have wasted my money, but I took a chance being an Anbernic fan. Hopefully, my unit will be improved.
The build quality doesn't bother me as much as how they put analog stick. What in the world they think that this type of placement would be ergonomic
Totally agree!
The hated RG552 I own (199€) is getting comunity upgrades and is a Joy for a retro games in the big screen.
Just ordered the Loki Zero at 199€ with the free ram upgrade.
I loved Anbernic for their past but the present.. is not very good.
Thanks for the video.
Loki Zero. LoL.
@@hunam3876 lol what? is a new handheld from AYN with same specs than the anbernic but half price and dual channel ram.
@@JordiLA YEs I was just wondering when well get a small pc handheld i own the steam deck but its huge coming from ps vita
@@andyolson8706 PsVita is amazing in 2022 to play retro!
@@JordiLA sony really killed the ps vita with pricing of memory cards and lack of support
I never understood bottom firing speakers. EVEN THE CLASSIC GAMEBOY was front firing speaker.... its one reason I love my cellphone, the Sony Xperia 1 Mark 2, because it has front firing speakers. Meaning I can go with less volume when watching content because the audio is directly facing my head as apposed to shooting away from me.
Bottom firing speakers are only excusable if the device is on the bleeding edge to the point that the manufacturer cannot place it up front. For thick devices like this, it's just plain lazyness.
Screw Abernic. This goes to show that their quantity over quality got way over their heads. I even one time considered buying a handheld from them but after they up and personally attacked you, that doesn't roll with me. #GameOverAbernic
Anbernic's peak was the 351 series, and even I love my RG351V. But everything they released after those are hot garbage. They've figuratively fallen off a cliff.
After caving I've decided to go all in with a Steam Deck. I've got my reservation and I'm ready. If it can run PS2 games really well I'll be happy.
Considering I can almost emulate heavier PS2 games at full speed with an ATARI VCS which is a quarter of the performance *at best* it'll crush PS2 emulation.
@@matthewblackwood9653 I had originally read good things on the Loki Mini Pro caught a good case of FOMO and purchased a pre-ordered. Then I saw that the Steam Deck can play KH3 I panicked checked the price and saw it was 130 more than I was already paying for with my Loki order. I then emailed AYN asked if they could refund me and they did no issues. So now I'm holding strong till the Steam Deck orders open.
@@SindyxLotus what is kh3? If it's kingdom hearts 3 then the loki can straight up emulate it as it is a ps3 game. I do think the loki base is more bang for buck then the deck as it has hull sensor sticks and the 6600u which has a better cpu and a equivalent GPU. It's more efficient than the deck in terms of cpu but the GPU needs higher wattage to get the same deck like performance. The loki mini Intel version are the worst ones to buy because intell has no performance at lower tdps and it's almost 400$ even with the mini pro. The amd mini might be equal to the deck but we have like no info about it except that it's very efficient. Like the deck it also has 4 zen 2 cores but we don't know about the GPU.
@@shlokshah5379 Kingdom Hearts 3 is a PS4 game. It's also currently, obnoxiously, available on PC as an Epic Games Store Exclusive. There are TH-cam videos that go into the process of getting it to run on the Steam Deck. I told the nice lady at AYN the Deck will better serve my needs, I still think I made the right call asking for a refund. I'm also super fortunate having dealt with a company that would be so understanding.
I can emulate most ps2 games through the 2021 base aya neo, some games aren't perfect but that's more down to the emulator. Steam deck should crush ps2 emulation with the extra power.
The person at ambernic who keeps putting two thumbsticks at the bottom needs sacking NOW
Lmao I love how truthful this review is compared to the one made by Russ(Retro Game corps)
I like how you talk strait up about these devices
My journey with Anbernic ends with my 351M I guess. And I thought so highly of the company given that my 351M felt so good and premium, it's insane how low they've fallen... Also lol @ them thinking they could stop Taki's reviews lmao. As always, Mr. Taki, thank you for the honest, technical and thorough review!
I'm not going to give them any ideas, but they could stop me from getting new devices for a long time if they really wanted to be that low.
@@TakiUdon That would be pretty low.
Do you mean that they could stop you from getting devices I advance of their availability to the general public?
I assume that reviewers must have special access to obtain devices sooner than the general public, so as to enable them to have time to test the device, and write a review, to be published at the same time the device goes on general sale.
Is that correct? Or do you just have to order one as soon as they go on sale, and write your review as quickly as possible?
If there is no special access involved, how could they stop you from getting devices? Couldn't you just order in someone else's name, in the last resort?
Hell, I'd do it for you, if it came down to you needing to defeat attempted corporate censorship, Taki!! I'm sure many of your subscribers would also.
It's such a bummer that they couldn't bring the price down a bit further, it seems like they are in a tough spot. They cut just about every corner they could, the build quality, controls quality, screen quality, really low end cpu, single stick of RAM, etc, but still only came in a little below the Steam Deck, which I can say from experience is a very nice device to use. If this is what it takes to get to a sub $400 gaming handheld PC, I simply don't see how any of these companies are going to be able to compete once the Steam Deck is available on store shelves. It really seems the only option is to pull a GPD and do a combo device that is a mini laptop + Gaming handheld, or do what AYA is doing and try to target a higher end device at a higher price. It really feels like the sub $1000 gaming PC handheld market belongs to Valve.
Is dolphin on default settings? Or have additional speed options enabled? Seems far better than what other reviewers get on windows
Default settings.
i ordered one on amazon and it gets here tomorrow im gonna put it to the test
wasn't planning on buying this one, but now I'll make sure to stay away from ANY handheld they make
I'm gonna try and guess the BOM for this:
processor: $30
ram: $25
ssd:$20
display: $15
PCBs and other assorted components: $30
plastic shell: $10
buttons and sticks:$10
speakers:$5
battery:$10
windows license:$10
assembly: $15?
Total: $180?
Given that Anbernic still needs to pay for R&D and make profit, and they can't subsidise their hardware like valve can, I think $230-280 would be reasonable. $400 is way too much, especially compared to competitors. The price for the Chinese market is way more reasonable(1899RMB=285USD), but still pretty uncompetitive.
You are a little high on some things and a little low on others, but you are pretty close. Chinese price for this was 2400 RMB = $360 (paid this fee twice).
@@TakiUdon My bad, 1899 is for the 3020e version, and that listing is completely sold out.
@@MrGoneja First mover's advantage does exist, and if they could keep it in stock at $250 plenty people owould buy it until something better comes out or when the better options are OOS. There are of course fundamental problems with this device that need to be solved, though. But I don't think significant engineering time or extra cost would be needed to do that.
they could probably get these parts
even cheaper by buying in bulk
with all the problems listed by taki on the video, i find it hard to believe they spent much on R&D at all. its stuff so basic that it makes me think they didnt even test the damn thing before shipping.
not even 100 dollar no-brand chinese smartphones suffer from these problems...
After the RG552 debacle, I'll never trust or buy anything from Anbernic again.
What RG552 debacle?
@@Pridetoons do you own one?
@@summersky77 Definite whiff of a debacle at launch, and still a bit flawed, but when taken on it's own terms the 552 is such a good little device and can play so much, so well. They needed to do better with their next big follow up though, but it sounds like they've botched it even further 😒
@@TK1s_Big_Love Should have had at minimum, the Unisoc T618 8-Core Processor with the active cooling and $100 less with none of the build quality issues (paint flaking after two days, broken switches, volume rocker button etc.)
That was just the tip of the iceberg. It has a nice screen and paired with a decent controller can be a convenient streaming device when nothing else is available.
@@summersky77 The chipset is fine and is a decent upgrade on the 351 era, I don't think they necessarily have access to more powerful SOC's, their business model seems to be "design something around what we can get hold of" and whilst the price could have been a bit cheaper, it's still good value for money - it's just that the Steam Deck and Odin came from nowhere to turn everyone's heads with their phenomenal value and performance. Given that you still can't really get either of them though, and i've had the 552 since December, i'm not really holding it against Anbernic. £185 for a handheld with a truly nice and versatile screen that can competently play the consoles the RK3326 machines struggled with, plus tons of ports and loads of Android stuff too is exactly what i was looking for since getting the 350M.
I've not had the issues you describe, but there's def been too many corners cut on the 552 (no bluetooth, lesser wi-fi, no stacked shoulders, power button in a weird place, battery isn't great, etc), plus underwhelming software at launch. Given their rep for quality hardware, they deserve criticism for some of these choices, even if Covid was probably a massive disruption.
Tbh, i can forgive most of this stuff because the 552 was designed in a pre-Odin/Deck/Covid world and the updated firmware improves it no end...but i cannot understand what they're thinking pricing the Win600 as they have. Well out of impulse and mainstream purchase territory and the hardware isn't good enough to be premium. It seems they've learnt nothing from the 552 debacle (lol). And this Taki stuff suggests that they know they've botched it. It would be interesting to know how many units they plan on manufacturing, what their profit margins are and whether they can sustain this approach with their higher-end stuff for much longer .
Wow, those thumbsticks look unusable down there. For that reason alone, I would never consider buying this product and I would probably question the quality of every Anbernic device.
Talking about the Loki mini Pro: is It better than the Odin pro?
Would you reccomend the Intel Alder Lake U Pentium 8505 or the Mendocino Zen 2? The Amd version seems to have better Ram (LDDR5 6400 vs LPDDR4 4266).
The WIN600 does come with legit Windows, a cost of 120$ on the Windows store so if you actually need legit Windows then you would need to buy that yourself on the Loki zero or the Steamdeck and add that $120 to the cost, I do think they should offer one without Windows for $200 - $250
Thats a valid point.
I wish you could buy the win600 with a blank ssd so the buyer has an option to install the OS of their choice or even have an option to buy one with no ssd.
Which model would you recommend for someone looking to play Dreamcast and PSP games who doesn't know anything about Emulation or the Hardware and needs something user friendly? I have never messed with Emulation or PC gaming but want to get something to play Dreamcast Era games and PSP Era handheld games. I know many different handhelds exist but I want one I can figure out easily and one that has good decently large screen.
How to play nintendo switch games in Anbernic Win600? What emulator do you use?
I purchased 3200mhz 16gb with dual rank. Dual rank is the secret sauce. Since it's a single channel. I want to be the first to do this comparison.
I'm from Mexico, and since the Deck is not officially available in my region, I'm considering getting one of these, does it gets the job done? I don't even play very demanding titles, I play from the 7th generation to below.
I just bought tempura udon and it was good but I like spicy ramen more. Sadly they stopped selling the spicy ramen at the grocery I go to
Lol
The ram isn't running at full speed if you go to the bios you can set it to 2666mhz and it helps a little bit you can also use 3200mhz ram which can also help considering its single channel
I'm so glad I watched this review. There's a too much money to throw at this device for someone to end up with these kinds of issues.
Taki, please include Ultimate Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 for future GameCube testing, not only are they some of my favorite games but they are some of, if not the most demanding games on the console, they will make for good benchmarks. Beat Metroid prime 1 and 2 on the same 865 phone that struggled with these two spiderman games.
Screen issue while charging: I used to see this on some older android devices. It's usually down to the charger or device having poor AC filtering in relation to capacitive coupling.
^this, poor emi mitigation
Yup,
my Surface Pro have the same issue described in the video
@@sjm4306 I guess this is realatable to why noise floor on the RG552 3.5 jack is so high... I mean RFI or EMI, in general shielding is sh...t.
I advise you to forget about the mode switch and mouse mode in general, and install app "companion controller". I have been using this handy utility since the days of the first gpd win.
I use it for my AYA FE!
The screen problem is overvolting. I had a JXD S5800 which did that with the charger it came with. Swapped it out for another with the same stated volt/amp combo and problem gone. Problem with this Ambernic is, it is doing it wrong with chargers on the correct Volt/Amp combo which leads me to believe the chargers they’re testing with are cheap crap and the voltage level from the battery under charging is not at the level the touchscreen is expecting to receive.
You should leave a review on their website, I was looking at them and most of them appear to be fake
I think I've never heard taki this furious
Thx. Was thinking to buy one, but NO, u saved me money
Brutal honest review Taki. That's why I follow you. I had high hopes for this device but I was doubting about the price point. After this, I hope Anbernic won't sell to much and take a good long look in the mirror. If AYN would ship faster, because I just don't believe them anymore, I would pre-order the Loki model. For me personally, I don't need a Steam Deck. I have a good PC but I would love a dedicated device where I can emulate up to PS2. Atm I feel it is far better to wait and see what comes in the near future.
Fools still buying this potato.
Like rg522$ sold out, win600$ will be gone.
That's the problem, many people are so undemanding for the quality.
Buying crap is not cool, not to mention the carbon footprint. Saving for the better, sturdy and reliable product is the key.
3:50 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
That R2 button press bro!!!
I have only an Anbernic RG280V.
And i want only one thing from anbernic in the future.
An second RG280V.
Little, lying well in the hand and can play DS, gamecube and PS2 games.
Maybe in 10 years, who know.
But i love this litte thing
hey, I'm new here... just wanted to know anbernic win600 vs gpd xp plus... which is better?? or can you suggest anything better... please and thank you 😊🙏
I decided look at the Loki Zero and Loki Mini Pro handhelds as alternatives and was curious how the price would be now that it's nearly a year later as of this comment, June 10th 2023. They are STILL in preorder but I heard that they will start shipping this month. It still seems like "You can get it now" is still sadly a Pro for this device though, Blessedly, the Steam Deck is now available as well. Still Great Job on the video! :)
Looking at your pinned comment, I will never ever consider their products anymore with that kind of attitude.
I just feel like with the steam deck, I'm not sure what the point of products like these are for me anymore. I just ordered Miyoo Mini last week because I want something really portable and small to play gameboy/snes games and maybe the occasional PS1 JRPG when I'm on the train. That's what I want from these type of companies now. Perfect the art of lower powered devices. Make them higher quality, more features, and most of all portable and durable.
The RAM is Glowy, the review ... yikes ... not so much. Cheers Taki.
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So much missed opportunity. What really brings the issues into sharp focus is that Anbernic have years of experience in this market and yet make fundamental mistakes that cannot be put down to ignorance, the lack of dual channel RAM being one glaringly obvious factor from the start.
It is clearly rushed and untested in response to a suddenly expanding market place.
And then we come down to what you have to pay for such a product. Had this had the Powkiddy name behind it and a price associated with such a name then you may have at least expected it not yo be of premium quality and compensate accordingly.
However, I do fear that rather too many will fork out their money and essentially perpetuate a lack of future focus and quality control.
The FOMO reference in the summary made me chuckle and so appropriate too.
The single RAM stick seems like such an easily avoidable own goal. Including the hardware to support a DIMM would've added cost, if they used soldered memory they could've included dual channel RAM (and probably with more capacity / higher speeds) without raising the price.
The choice of single channel RAM in a Ryzen device is absolutely unacceptable. That made it a no-buy immediately
I would like to upgrade the ram do you recomend 16 gb or 32?
I love these handhelds conceptually, but I'm in the spoiled crowd that has a ton of softmodded systems, everdrives, flash carts etc. For systems like ps2 and more modern, if I don't play on original hardware I often use pc streaming with a wifi-6 router and quite a lot of things can become a portable gaming system. :). If you haven't tried it yet, EmuVR is a great immersion tool to set the mood for retro gaming and escape the world properly for a few hours.
I'm starting to like Anbernic less and less as a company. I have a couple of their devices, but I'm probably done at this point.
Hey man, nice video as always, one nerdy question: is any news out there(in the wild) about a new device from Moqi????
The last thing that I heard was that Moqi folded. Very sad, they were my favorite company.
@@TakiUdon sad to hear it, well now those device will sky rocket even more...
Damn no upgradable storage?😔
Man, great review. Battery life is important, no doubt, and in this case, it is main flaw
It is pretty strange that no-one copies the Wii U gamepad placement, that's always been the best handheld layout imo but everyone picks a variant of the Joycon's layout which is awful for trigger shooters.
Agreed. Despite its size, the Wii U has been hands down the most comfortable handheld for me, very underrated imo.
Right?! Nintendo already figured it out years ago and I was just playing with the Wii U the other day on that gamepad and was thinking the exact same thing!
Was looking at the CPU and RAM stuff, the 3050 is plenty plenty man enough to tackle gaming environments, in fact you could prob do all of it on 4gb of ram not 8 and its DDR4 too so a much bigger bus than DDR3. Where this would rock is running a Linux build. However the 3050 isn't a hyperthreading CPU and very little about the two Radeon cores on board the CPU either. The CPU itself is a very budget variant of a low end Ryzen 3, OK if you wanted to run PC version Cyberpunk on this it might struggle but the console version of Cyberpunk it would run fairly well due to the very compacted nature of a console's system and execution in comparison to Window's bloatyware environment.
Please make a video about win600 vs AYN odin
Many games will boot up on incorrect resolutions/aspect ratios and if there is a problem like the one showed in Just Cause, in most cases you can set a lauch command on Steam or just edit a .ini file and work it out.
Oh come on. How can you expect them to make a dual ram slot in this form factor at this price point
nah hold on I HATE the digital triggers, think of gamecube, dreamcast, xbox, ps2, and so many more consoles, all of them are going to be difficult to play because of that, I personally see no advantage to it over the steam deck.
My old Moto G3 always had the same touchscreen issue when it was charging, never figured out where this came from.
No idea how they managed to recreate that old issue, but since they fucked up pretty much everything else on this as well I'm not too surprised.
Thanks Taki, another honest review.
It's supposed to be Xbox series x/s controller components that are supposed to be used. Hope you enjoy. Not many people have money
Thanks taki
Quite a few Windows PCs, tablets and 2-in-1s, exhibit these same symptoms when plugged in. Even some Flagship models. I've noticed that years ago and it's really annoying.
I remember when you started with the trio of the Opendingux handhelds, you grew so much, nice work taki
Excellent in-depth product review. You got yourself a new subscriber.
400€ Are you kidding?. The same as an Steam Deck. Not saying this is a bad product, but at that price, there is no way I would even think for a second on buying it while the Steam Deck exist.
I think they want to jump on the handheld hype train with the new portable PCs (AYA NEO, ONE X PLAYER, Steam Deck etc) . I'm okay with that, but don't price this more than 300. Even at 300 I would have a hard time buying this product over the Steam Deck, but I would understand that they can't price it cheaper (Valve Steam ecosystem selling you games, etc)
Steam Deck is sold at a loss. I imagine this company can't do that like Valve can. Considering Valve makes tons of money just with the store they own, I think they can get away selling the Deck at a loss.
Anbernic just needs to get his costs under control.
Either they can't produce as cheap as they want to, or they don't want to lower their high margin.
Ain't ever gonna happen, they don't have the manufacturing resources to do so nor can they swallow the production costs like console companies or valve can as they will make that back in games sales.
Steam Deck remains the unchallenged king, just reserve the 300$ or 600$ model be patient and in the mean time safe money.
B R U H !
For maybe a $400 ranged item, them issues are going to be a big downer if I want this thing. Since I believe I can save for a $500-$600 budget device. I definitely want something better. Aya Neo Air or Loki would fit the bill for me and also there's no way for me to order the Steam Deck in our country.
It runs better than my 3500u when it comes to emulation lol.
So the charging issue is from bad quality/bad materials used in the charging cable. So i used a cex brand usb c cable on my one plus 2 and it started registering ghost touch so i assumed the phone was broken and brought my second phone pixel 2xl and used the same cable and got the same issue.
It only went away after letting the device discharge and charge again with a different cable for things to start behaving properly and it worked. No ghost touch, tested with my first phone and the ghost touch was fixed. I think the issue is bad materials or inpropper fast charge support.
Tfw brought another phone cos a cable was shitty and causing problems.
I swapped type C cables to also verify if that was the issue and it didn't change the outcome... :\
Seriously. Im already considering buying this model .already put on my shopping cart . U my bro ..help me save a lot of money. .