Porsche Taycan 4S real world review. Plus trying to charge it away from home..
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- The 2021 Porsche Taycan 4S can do 0-60 in 3.7secs & 0-100mph in just 8.5secs but what’s it like to live with Porsche's first production electric car and what happens when you try to charge it away from home on one of the new generation pay as you go Instavolt fast chargers? Find out here..
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The little nugget at the end reminded me of what "the thrill of driving" should be about and giggling at the small joys we have available to us. Thanks for including that Harry, we could all do with moments like these in our lives
If you ever wonder about doing the grandson bits, just do it. They make me laugh every time.
He's an adorable little fella, very like my second born. My son would always sit up front with me whilst his brother was at school. He was only 3 at this time and would give me directions and we'd play observational games.
Many years ago I was motoring along near home when a car, which I was following from a distance, and gaining upon and fully intended to overtake, suddenly went to turn right into a factory yard, with no indication other than his brake lights as he turned.
I quickly stamped on the brakes and on off, on off so as to retain some control and aimed my car to fit in between the grass verge with sign post, street lamp post and hopefully not hit anything. I was going over the limit though and so my car did lock up and my son was excitedly squealing "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" and I eventually halted very closely to a speed limit order sign with my engine still running. I sat for a couple of seconds just gathering myself, I put my hand on little Eddie's knee and said "Are you alright, Ed?" And he replied "Yeeah can we do it again Mummy?"
It put a massive smile on my face, my fearless son (he's 23 now). I went back the next day and saw I'd left masses of rubber from my tyres and thankfully that following week the roads were surface dressed with tar and loose gravel. I'd have had no control of where I stopped if they'd already top dressed it before my lock up.
Likewise. Made me like the video.
Which motor is in this one?
Very sweet little lad
@@GenaF Makes you think when stuff like that happens! My oldest still remembers me taking him down an industrial back road and doing burnouts and donuts with him and his brother in the back giggling their heads off - perfectly safe of course but when my wife found out I caught hell so even though he still asks me to, I haven't ever done it again.
Mr. Harry , you've done it again. Superb! The most objective and honest real-world review. The first one who doesn't concentrate only on acceleration. Who the hell buys a car only for stoplight racing??
As a Taycan owner who watches most of the TH-cam videos on this topic, Harry's review is one of the best. A few comments. (1) Range is dependent on many factors, and in the Taycan, regenerative braking is disabled for a few hundred miles in new cars to ensure brake bed-in. The range calculator also learns from your driving behavior. Harry reported range through two charging cycles, which is well within these limitations. (2) Harry's video has a constant level of road noise throughout. Note that the optional thermal and sound insulated glass option gives the Taycan possibly the quietest car interior ever made. (3) Cargo capacity is improved by the roof rack mounting system available with the panoramic glass roof. This system is compatible with Thule components, such as bicycle, cargo, and canoe mounts. Note also that the seats fold down, and with the optional center rear seat, there is a ski pass-through fold down between two rear seat occupants. The outer rear seats have child seat attachment points as Harry demonstrated. (4) The interior refinement that Harry comments upon is upgradeable to the point that the Porsche Taycan won the World Luxury Car of the Year award for 2020. In the UK, tax incentives for electric vehicle lease or purchase penalize the purchase of options, so we see extremely frugally optioned Taycans in UK reviews that are lacking in interior refinement.
Not having to have a million apps on your phone for each company offering charging would be a game changer yeah.
Govt have said all new chargers need to take contactless which is nice. Other chargers I've tried with contactless are still more hassle than Instavolt though. I don't know why they think they need me to go though some stupid menu. There's only two steps involved - plugging in and tapping the card. If I have to do any more than that it's a failure of user interface design.
@@BobElHat just use Tesla ones
@@langraman8756 I agree. Not because I’m a Tesla fan but why would anyone pay twice the price for a car with basically 2 seats? Supercharging is such a HUGE plus of being a Tesla owner.
@@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit the german car sales people are out in force on here
Tesla is still winning, range over name brand any day.
We need a lot more analysis from the back seat driver.
Again!
The new hatchback version has plenty of room
The end of the video was awesome Harry, thank you☺️
Best car channel on youtube i swear. No one does car reviews like Harry does.
Great work sir!
same electrical acceleration noise as the Johnny cab in Arnies Total Recall.
Hope you enjoyed the ride ;-)
except a whole ton faster, and hopefully the porsche wont try and kill you if you dont pay the fare
"YOU BLEW MY COVER!!!!!"
Arnies? oh yea because they remade it... like idiots!
Best bit is always the smile on the Grandson’s face when the speed kicks in and the words “Again!” Nice work Harry!
Seen this comment first and almost want to skip to the end to see this 😂
Yeah but watch the kid when in the DBS Volante Harry had a while back.
Much much more giggles from the noise and performance etc
@@th3b0untyhunter good wasn’t it!
Love the back seat driver. Expert opinion right there. 😂😂😂
As usual, Harry provides the best review of the Taycan I’ve seen! Brill video! Thx
Thanks for all your great videos, Harry! May God bless you and all in your family.
The mistake you made here harry was you didn't park the car close enough to charge point
Yeah he is very good at that.the bumper almost kisses the charger.incredible.
Maybe he took the two posts for power terminals at first ;-)
I disagree, the charging cable is the same length
@@nj3957 I think you might have missed my point
You’d get paint rash if any nearer.
Great show loved the kids reaction to speed and especially the trip on the old rolls keep the good work up 👍
Thanks for your honesty. And I loved that you included your passenger!
The Northern Jubilee Line. Thanks for that one!
Northern / Jubilee line duh
I asked a cab driver to take me to Paddington once. he said "the station", i said "well yeah, i don't know the bear!!!
The enthusiasm is infectious!
The best you tuber and reviewer comes right at the end. Great stuff
As a toddler in the late 70’s, I had an 1:18 scale 911 in almost that exact color. It was my favorite toy and it’s what got me into cars as a young kid. Still remember being fascinated by those Fuchs wheels.
Particularly liked the rear seat reviewers contribution at the end 😁
Love this. Its like seeing my dad playing around with a new gadget, sad that younger generations won't be able to fully appreciate this tech
Awww bless, what a lovely little lad, gave me a right smile that bit at the end
Great review and especially good re the charging update. Looks like the infrastructure is finally taking shape. Your grandson stole the show!
" went round it with a magnet" who does that? love your work Harry.
Ditto, Old school cleaver!
"how do I get it to stop charging' definitely don't press stop charging 😂
Another great video from Harry 😊👍🏻
I remember when I first went from the Central Line platform at Stratford down to the Jubilee Line. It was the best electric motor sound I'd ever heard. Pretty much still is. Compared to the other underground trains, it sounded powerful and interesting.
Double the wheel torque (almost) in speed 1 vs speed 2 so it's fair to expect the tip in to be a tad sharper! I assume there is a lot more going on with torque management /pedal maps etc etc but mechanical advantage is mechanical advantage.
I'm guessing that little man is going to be a car fan when he's old enough! Super cheeky laugh. Love it.
Great review as always. As for the Taycan, I like that the tires have some sidewall, instead of the rubber-strip-painted-on-22-inch-wheels look on supercars these days.
Great stuff per usual, Harry.
So hillarious and true at the same time....that London tube sound. Hahaha... I didn't remember that tube sound until you mentioned it. Superb comparison. :)
Closing my eyes and listening to the whine at start up gave me a vision of a Unigate milk float from the 70's :)
One befukte milk float, that...
One befukte milk float, that...
Great review as always, Harry - thank you! Have to say I love the Taycan but in mambo green it reminds of my uncle’s ‘79 Vauxhall Chevette ☺️
What a car guy. I mean of course the guy saying just "good" when asked how he likes the car. Seriously - honest and balanced videos like these are what makes people coming back here. Thanks, and stay safe.
The sound of the electric motor reminds me of the noise KITT made
Yeah, it sounds sick.
@@rsmth43 yes i'd forgotten those electric milk floats
@@rsmth43 im impressed, i thought they'd all gone, what with most local milk depots closing.
Hey Harry, great video as usual, can you please do the X5 45e update please?
Saw one of these and it actually makes a sound when it drives. Love it.
What a beautiful review. Thank you Harry ! I would love to drive this car but I don't think I would want to own one.
Excellent. Good to see someone making an electric car you would want to drive.
That's why it's one of the best electric cars out there.
Now if they could make it affordable.
Great video Harry. Your summary is spot on. They have missed a trick as you say and should have launched a fast estate 1st. Insta are great (they and polar are all I use) and if they had eked out a 300 mile range (in lieu of a lack of tesla super charger speed and convenience- in the uk ) they have hit the sweet spot. Right now, in the uk, a small £35k 250 mile range - ie Hyundai kona is the sweet spot if you don’t want a M3 - tesla Does 95% of what you need.
Exactly. Seems exclusivity will still be a thing in the EV world, and now, looking forward to it.
It certainly will be exclusive, comsidering there isnt even enough global lithium to have full adoption in the USA.
The higher the state of charge, the lower the charging speed. This explains the speed you got.
The temperature of the battery can also affect it. Charging at too high a current when too hot or too cold will damage the battery, so it knows to limit the incoming power. The 125kW is probably when everything is at optimum conditions
The battery can take 270kW max
And the fact that it said "125KW Shared" which suggests it's shard across all of the charging points.
It's not the whole story this time. If you check my video you can see the Porsche easily does 100kW+ when way over 70% SoC even. You do need liquid cooled cables though, unfortunately this charger doesn't use those right now. Let's hope they still plan on upgrading.
@@electricfelix liquid cooled cables? Does the standard not allow for sufficiently thick cabling?
Great entertaining video as always from Harry. Thanks for that. I have had Taycan 4S with smaller battery now little more than 3 months. Beautiful car, enjoyed every moment! Couple of more good things what I can add when driving car quite a cold weather in Finland lately. To charge fast and not to increase consumption you need to use heating systems before you go. Easy to use through app. You can see battery temperature from the gauges and when its less than +10C the charging speed as well as consumption is worse than promised until then temperature increase. More than +20C battery temperature and you will get those numbers as promised. I have driven now +8000km and average consumption is 19,4kWh/100 km ~400km range. Not bad. Also as this small battery Taycan is 150kg less weight than Turbo S, I'm more than happy not to tick the big battery option. Many others I did instead. Cheers!
Fun to see Harry so excited about the charging at the ‘pump’
When we gona hear the Espada at 8000rpm :)
Total rubbish car. Overrated
@@yousefbhoyroo6960 that’s very helpful. I take it you used to own an Espada?
Just before the engine gives up?
@@yousefbhoyroo6960 if Harry rates it, it is not a crap car.
@@JelloTypeR he probably has a mate who had one.. years ago...😏
Reminds me of the Apple green on Ford Fiestas back in around 2006.
or 95% of Kawasaki motor bikes.
2008. I liked it. Better than yet another shade of grey.
Also Hoon Model Holden Commodores of the same era...
@@damienmills293 there was a Commodore Ute around here a few years ago in that shade of green.
Better Apple green than Android gray?
Excellent review, thank you. Also, thanks for bringing along your sidekick again. Even cuter than the last time.
Another excellent and honest review. Thanks !
Jubilee Line, that's exactly my first thought
That little dude loves speed!
Nice video Harry. Spoilt by TH-cam adding three 20 second adverts I couldn’t skip ruining the flow.
Excellent review! Thank you.
Interesting timing given the media coverage of that Taycan that couldn’t find anywhere to charge.
Yes, I read that on BBC. Something like this 5 hours to drive 120 miles. When I take my P38 Rang Rover off road I carry extra gas. Don't think I will be off roading and in an electric in my life.
timing of the hype after boris announced
It looks really simple providing you have a lot of time
Love your videos, better than top gear, very informative and really enjoy watching your rd trips too, it’s like a motor show and travel program all in one. 👌
Think you should organise a 3-4 day rally one day so fans can follow you
That's already an iconic Porsche color🔥🔥🔥
Nice to see tires that have some decent sidewall width to provide a more comfortable ride.
Well, I have to say I like the look of it despite the impracticalities of the limited storage space. I also quite like the sound of this one. It reminds me of the overdubbed mock-up cars used in the UFO TV series from the early '70's. It appears they've certainly nailed the ease of charging, it couldn't get much easier. If the reduced charge rate was down to the two other vehicles charging at the same station it just highlights the infrastructure and power generation problem they're going to have to address if electric cars are to become the norm.
The development of electric car tech is really taking off and will only increase as more and more manufacturers come onboard. The revised new petrol/diesel ban is just over 9 years away now but it's exciting to think what the full electric options will be by then.
Nice one Harry keep em coming
Nice plug for Car Industry Analysis, hidden gem of a page.
I saw my first Taycan out on the road a few weeks ago, it really is a great looking car. Im still a dinosaur when it comes to cars, but this Porsche is probably the first electric car that I really do like 👍🏾
I wouldn't frame yourself as a dinosaur. Just because a technology is new doesnt mean it is good. Just take a look at the various Victorian inventions that seem almost laughable now and didn't last very long.
"I want 400 miles of range to go and see my Espada being built and not wait an hour to recharge."
Such a legend
2021 lucid air 517 miles , 2021 model s refresh 521 miles. USA EPA ratings. for suv lovers the new Rivian. unfortunately the steering wheel is on the left side :)
As if people don’t take a break in 650 km, that’s just a dumb argument
@@aliancemd Hi Lilian, totally agree, but it's the fact it gives you wriggle room if a charger isn't working, or you get traffic diversions, or you didn't charge your car to max the night before and you then get a call early in the morning asking you to drive 200 miles. Better range will improve things, but in reality, most people would manage 95% of the time with a car that had a real-life range of 150 miles. Then hire a car with much longer range for those 1, 2 or 3 times a year when you need it.
@@aliancemd Don't judge others by your own shortcomings...
@@albertdesalvo7273 Pushing CO2 into the air is a major shortcoming.
Great review. I loved the Turbo I drove and am still thinking about one but there are a few thing which you nailed in your review that are just making me pause.
Good useful video, along with the regular enjoyable presentation.
You’ve nailed the pluses and minuses perfectly Harry. I couldn’t get over how terrible the packaging is for a taller (6’2”) gent like myself. The worst was how hard it was to wedge myself between the steering wheel and b pillar. It was pretty poor, to be honest. And the interior space is tighter than my Model 3.
When my Model 3 was totaled earlier this year, I had a choice to make. I came close to ordering a Taycan 4S, but for the same price, I got a Model 3 Performance AND a 25k mile 997 Turbo S. The depreciation on a Taycan is likely to be eye watering. And to be honest, although it goes down the road and feels like a Porsche, it doesn’t shade the Model 3 nearly as much as I thought it would. Add in the aSupercharging network and I passed on the Porsche. Yeah, I miss not having that beautiful build quality in my daily driver. And the Porsche ride / handling. But when I get in my 997 Turbo, that seems to all fade...
Milk Float springs to mind with that sound.
Nice looking car, certainly prettier than a Tesla. Build quality light years ahead!
Thanks for sharing it. 👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
16:51 Whoa! Look at that gauge! You've got that fancy liquid electricity in the UK?! We don't have that here. You guys are so far ahead ! Great review. Keep them comin' Love the Harry's Farm stuff too
Best part of the video is the analysis right at the end from the expert in the back seat.
Looks like the love of sports cars runs in the family! Grandson likes it!
Reminds me of my grandads Austin Maxi 1750, well the colour does anyhow
I had a Corgi Morris Marina in the same colour! lol
My dad had a 1974 MK1 VW Passat in a similar colour called Viper Green.
That was a striking colour at the time and would still look the business on a car today 46 years later.
Did your grandad also pay £774.00 extra to get that colour? (1:08)
@@camwat5193 I wonder if the "Mamba Green Metallic" name is a wink to the "Viper Green" then?
Bet the Maxi sounded better!
Last week, I drove from Lisbon, South to my home in the Algarve, then to St Malo and subsequently Warwickshire.
Complete pleasure, way more relaxing and playful than the “jiggly-ride “2020 X5 it replaced.
The supercharger stops in Spain and Portugal are surprisingly at boutique hotels , beautiful vineyards or golf courses ! Quite pleasant for a coffee and bathroom visit.
The average stop, just 19 minutes to charge and £16 cost !
But stick to ice cars, urine soaked washrooms and motorway service stations if that’s your “thing”
Great video Harry! The Sport Turismo estate version is coming next year 👍
15:53 Coulda parked a bit closer to the charging station eh Harry? 😂
I imagine a lot of Taycan drivers are quite shy of the bollards, imagine how much it would cost to fix a ding 🤑
Why, if the cable is long enough? Car doesn't charge faster just because it is closer to the charge point. Neither does your phone, or your laptop. Since the cable is a fixed length.
Irony/sarcasm advisory! lol
Omg... was just scrolling down to write same thing. Not sure I’d park my brand new Taycan 4S as close. Lol.
There’s probably parking sensors at the front
Finally a car where Harry's outrageously bad audio quality doesn't matter!
I'm glad am not the only one who notices this, it's more of a Harry's Hissage than Garage.
Best review of this car I have seen .
Had a ride in this during the week, was very nice. Spot on with that Tube noise, exactly the same I knew I heard it somewhere before.
I'm kind of shocked at how little space there is inside. You'd think a car that big would at least be able to seat four.
@Neman Momand Carwow is trash. It's just a guy promoting his website.
Brilliant end to the video :)
Helpful review. Thank you.
Good honest review as ever.
Charging costs are expensive...
+ painfully slow
Depends which public network you use to charge. Shell 150kwH fast chargers are 34p kWH, Polar 50kWh are 15p kWH with a membership. The majority of the time you don’t need to use public chargers because you charge at home.
@@SDK2006b I live in an apartment, no Private garage. Sweden is crazy expensive in terms of charging costs and with the cold weather, diesel is the best option...
@@SDK2006b no chance of me charging anything at home, i live on a road.
There will be 7kW chargers at nearly every parking space in the future, so it will be possible even when living on a road
Is it only me, or making touch screen, tablet actually, is cheaper then making high quality buttons. I understood that it would be too much buttons on car like this, but putting all in tablet, Tesla like, turns me off. Give me one good button dannit!
Correct, touchscreen is a much cheaper hardware than switches. And so are the LCD/LED screens vs. real gauges.
Nice recharge site near to my work HQ in Woodstock. So glad to see it working well. This is the future!
Excellent review harry Bravo i wonder have you done this kind of thing before and you’re trainee reviewer seems to be coming along well. Again again when you drive faster it’s a very good sign for the future don’t you think grazie Mille
I like how there’s so much sidewall on show.
Not very porsche like, but quite good for everything.
£2.50 for 23 miles of charge is shocking. Combine that with the low availability of charging stations and lengthy charge times (compared to petrol) and I still don’t see any incentive to go electric, especially away from cities.
You will have no choice in 10 year all new cars being made will be electric.
if you do less than 200 miles a day, as most people do then charging at home will be considerably cheaper, Instavolt 35p kwh - Octopus Go 5p kwh. I covered nearly 3000 miles on an EU roadtrip which cost £150
As he said in a couple videos- there's Tesla and there's everybody else. If you are considering a Tesla, there is 0 worry about charging or long delays on huge trips.
@@thelifeofbatteries2603 how can instavolt justify 35ppkwh? That’s crazy, but like you we charge (our Tesla) at home and only use Tesla superchargers so far. I’m dreading using non Tesla on our summer road trip
Great summary Harry - thank you
Great review Harry
Love the back seat commentary, can we go fast 😂
"Why has it taken so long" exactly Harry, good to hear Instavolt have got it right. As far as Teslaesque goes (a) the Tesla Supercharger would have been on the sat nav along with confirmation of bays free which as you know would you never have to wait with Tesla. (b) Charging would have been easily twice as fast, there is a lot of integration between charger and car, there's gonna be, they make both.
Impressed with your thoughts on the Porsche Taycan, of course Im biased Tesla Model S owner but mountain bikes chucked in the back and used to Tesla huge range and low price.
But there's the Tesla build quality elephant in the room, otherwise I'd agree that the Porsche is a rich man's posing pouch whereas a Model S is a rich man's practical electric solution with change to spare.
Let's face it though, all EVs are just too danged expensive and all have some compromise or the other.
Me, I'm waiting for a Searl Effect Generator powered vehicle, now if only that was factual, one could plug it into your house when not driving to do away with mains electricty and gas for power. Some dream that would be.
Taycan estate coming though Graham, something Tesla will never do as US Companies don't "get" estates...
@@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 3 mountain bikes go in the back of the model S and I still got front trunk so not needed an estate in 100,000 Tesla miles. Slippery shape of lift back = CD2.4 but your right if Tesla did an estate it may temp me. Roadster on order but only if the back seats flip and a mountain bike goes in the back (wheels off no problem)
@@blxtothis Build quality yes totally agree. Im 38 years engineering in big auto throughout the world so get to see the true story first hand, the fundamental architecture of the car is wrong with an internal combustion engine, this you realise when using an electric car especially an electric performance car. In terms of expense I agree initial up front cost is high however this will drop next 3 years and my Tesla P85 was bought to be used for 10 years its now 6 years old 100,000 miles has better reliability than any of my precious cars and has paid for itself in running and service coast by 150,000 miles.
@@slartybartfarst9737 No idea how you manage that, I struggle to fit one 29er in the back, it stops me taking more people and it makes a mess. If it had a rear towing ball at least I could use a rear bike frame. Front boot doesn't help take passengers cycling. It's a pretty useless shape, as slippy as it may be (I'm a drummer too). NB Drag force is Cd.A not just Cd. Well if you can afford a roadster, you can afford an X runaround to get muddy biking!!! ;))
Great review, as always, Harry. Loved your little grandson in the back at the end asking you to go fast and then when you did - “again!” Clearly another petrolhead in the making. Lovely. M
He’ll never drive a petrol car.
Found that very interesting. Grandson bit at the end was a nice bonus. Cuteness points off the scale.
I'm afraid that in this case the cost of charging is likely to be higher in the future than the cost of gasoline per 100 km
That can't happen the only way that could happen is if the cost of electricity everywhere went up. You do realize it's the same exact electricity that comes from the power grid that powers every single light and every single house and building and business don't you? On top of that what's to say electricity in every single country isn't going to always remain different? Why would you make baseless assumptions with 0 reasoning behind it?
Thar post was made 2 years ago and isn’t far wrong!
"convince yourself the rear diff has gone" Yeah, i know that feeling 😰
That Patek is so fitting on your wrist, sir. Well done.
Great video as always. You really have a great take on these electric cars - please do more reviews of them! There's too few true car enthusiasts reviewing them, as opposed to 'gadget reviewers' (that includes people only focused on reviewing electric cars). One question though: this or Tesla Model 3 Performance? Similar concepts (4-door saloons), very similar on paper performance, similar range, ... so is there any way it justifies its (double) price tag? Model S is not the right comparison - that car is twice the size inside.
I missed it in the video but was there an explanation about the "b" pillar being so wide?
It sounds like an electric Bedford HA van we had at Didcot A power station in the 80's.
Sounds like my Milkman on his rounds in the 60s.
Tell me of this "power station"you speak of?
@@marcbiff2192 It is no longer there.
@@David_Owsnett Like most real power stations will be soon.
Just wait for the queues Harry!!
That acceleration in the beginning reminds me of the old Bond movies when they fast forward to make the cars look fast