Okay I can’t believe I’m the first comment here. I own the 2021 Powerboost… This F150 gentleman’s work truck is the bomb! I don’t care what one review has to say about this being a problem for Ford, I’d like to firmly disagree. This vehicle performs better then any work truck of its comparison . I’ll go so far as to say it outperforms the early versions of the F250 in ways too many to mention. With it’s 12700 lb factory tow package and 7.2 onboard generator this baby is amazing, o let me count the way’s. I must have landed a gem because it’s been trouble free thus far. Out of my small fleet of truck’s it’s the one I want to drive. 2021 Lariat 501A. I’m a proud owner for sure.
The PowerBoost is an amazing truck!! We had one for two years and put 60,000 hard miles on it with basically zero issues. Our problem with the 2024 is the fact that they're making it harder and harder to save money on these things. By eliminating 90% of the "buildable combinations" they're basically forcing you to buy an options package (or an entire trim level) you don't need or want, just to get one feature. Anyway, enjoy your PowerBoost!!!
I ordered my XLT 302A Powerboost with console shifter for all the reasons you mentioned. I didn't want to wait and see what Ford dumped on us with the "refresh". I'm happy.
Good comments. I’ve realized most of the same things. Your video will help lots of people who don’t take the time to do so much research. Tailgate is neat but I agree it’d be great if there was a more notable new feature.
Well, i built a 2024 regular cab XL 4x4 5.0, just added spray-in bedliner and wheel well liners. 2024 XL 4x4 comes with 3.73 gearing and tow- haul package, so if you build a 2023with same options, it comes out pretty much the same..... but you now get the 12" infotainment screen and it has been refreshed. So, to me the 2024 was a no brainer. I ordered one.
Great video. Case in point is that in order to get the power pedals on an XLT, you have to spend over $9000 on the highest package instead of paying less than $200 for a stand alone option last year.
Totally agree. You can’t order a powerboost in a platinum trim with tow mirrors. You have to step down to Ecoboost if you want tow mirrors. Can’t opt out in the sunroof. Totally sucks. Ford is tightening its belt. Cutting costs big time. They must be bleeding money.
I just came across your channel. This video is on point. I wonder how many new buyers will realize how much they don't need some of those options they bought in the past now that they have to buy expensive packages or go up in trim level to get them? I have an F-150 with the HDP and max tow packages, but I'm not convinced an F-200 would make it. It would be kind of like the Titan XD and we know how that faired.
For sure. Unfortunately there's a very small market (of which we're definitely a member) for an F-150 that can hold 3,000 pounds of payload and pull a 14k trailer. Out of curiosity, how much do you tow/haul with your HDPP??? Does it hold up well? Never talked to someone who had one.
@@ArmyProperty My F-150 is a 2022 long bed XLT SuperCab (extended cab) with a 5.0 and 3.73 rear and I tow an Oliver travel trailer with a 7K GVWR. I usually pull around 6.5K with 1,400 lbs. of passengers, gear and hitch weight. I’m not really taxing this truck and it handles my trailer and load effortlessly. My previous truck was a Tundra 1794. The engine and rear were very strong but it had abysmal payload and towing numbers, not to mentions MPG. There wasn’t a lot out there when I was looking to replace it and other half tons I found only offered about 500 llbs. more payload.
Your best video yet. Everyone is dwelling on the tailgate; no one is mentioning all of the stuff that is going away (long bed extended cab, HDPP) Volkswagen did a similar decontent with the 2020 on up Golfs/GTIs; now past gen Golfs seem to be selling for more than new ones.
I'm disappointed that I cannot order a 2wd supercrew with 6.5 box anymore. Why do people even buy a truck with a 5.5 box? Might as well buy a minivan! I actually haul stuff in my truck, and have always got it done with 2wd.
Look at a Tundra today, nothing but quality. You could see it in the dept of the paint ,the bed liner texture, thr truck.,made Ford look like a truck shot with piss. I will flip my ford truck if the quality sucks
The Thing that p***** me off the most are the consoles and the sun roofs Some of us are too big and too long wasted the sun roof takes our head room and the console takes our leg room it's not very comfortable to ride in these trucks anymore Some of us are too big and too long wasted the sun roof takes our head room and the console takes our leg room it's not very comfortable to ride in these trucks anymore
Remember the 2024 is a mid cycle refresh (i.e. cosmetics). Tailgate and the fugly winch on the tremor are about all that's new. One hopeful positive of 90% less options is improved quality with simplification. Look at other manufacturers like Toyota, tesla. This is what they are doing,
Yup. Tesla offers like 4-5 exterior colors, two interior colors, and maybe a couple other choices (seating config, etc). That's definitely one way to do it. But Ford trucks have always been customizable, because there are so many different customer types and they use their trucks in so many different ways. And the increased grouping of features into option packages will lead directly to higher prices out the door, because customers will be forced to buy a ton of stuff they don't want, to get the one thing they do want. It's just a damn shame.
@@ArmyProperty well reducing configuration complexity can reduce manufacturing costs in addition to improving quality. Yet to see if ford passes savings on to customers. But I think this the direction of the future.
@@jw8578 yeah, sadly you’re probably right. Some consulting firm (McKinsey, etc) probably came in and told them to do it. They probably said something like “your customers have lots of brand loyalty so they’re going to STFU and buy what you tell them to buy, and they’ll pay what you tell them to pay” and Ford said “you know, you’re probably right” and it was a done deal.
@@ArmyProperty I'm with you. no doubt that the 2024 lineup is underwhelming...You forgot to mention that no LED DRLs on the XLT which is a shame... The LED DRLs on the 2023 model are the same ones on the 2023 and 2024 Lariat and it looks like Ford included the digital screens on all trims to one up Chevy.. Chevy did a mid year refresh in 2022 for the silverados and all LTs and up come with the dual digital screens, but with Ford now, I have to get a Lariat in order to get 2 things, LED DRLs and the homelink system aka the 3 button garage door opener which came with my LT Silverado.. To me it seems the Fail-150 is the better tow vehicle and I was considering trading in for one but not anymore.. with 1.9%/72 on the 2023s, you're better off with that year model.. 2024 = utter disappointment.
Man I just bought a 23.. And ur right ford's digital guages are terrible. I actually don't mind them in the chevy. They actually look nice and are easy to read.. But ford's look cheap, they just don't fit right..
Turbo longevity in a truck? Fake worry. Turbos/superchargers and trucks are the MOST COMMON marriage of all vehicles on earth. Turbos/blowers have been on diesels for generations, they have moved millions of Semi rigs with 1mill miles odomoters. Doubting a 6 cyl gasser w turbos is like doubting a 5.9T Cummins or a '91 GMC Syclone? Just drive it and enjoy! Cant make anyone happy even in the future(2024) w 500tq small V6 twin turbos? lol...its basicly a small displacement Nissan GTR engine in your truck and people think "but is it reliable??" after the 5.4L 3 valve debacle and 6.0T deez snafu's if your rolling dice w Ford your probably still paranoid and thats understandable.... Nobody is gonna miss that NA base V6 motor they cancelled. Thats why you take the 400hp/400tq DOHC 5.0L Coyote(basicly a Cobra motor) and throw on a dealer installed/warrantied intercooled supercharger for 700+ hp and never look back if your scared of a supercar V6TT. People are Always gonna have something to bitch about lol. Fords have the coolest motors at the moment....2.7/3.5TT....5.0 mustang cobra engine, 7.3 big block, 6.7 diesel 500/1000tq....amazing stuff! "I cant believe my new all aluminum, turbo'd all aluminum engine with canbus aerospace grade computers and 10 airbags costs more than 40k?" People forget how good we have it now. You dont have to get out of your truck to lock the hubs for 4wd, computers keep you on the road when its raining, back up cameras on integrated laptop screens, on board power supplies, subwoofer stereos, transformer tailgates, LED lighting thats x2 as bright as old yellow bulbs, etc; If you want a 'Mans working truck' be brave and go get a 170hp V8 70s or 80s RC long bed w 5MT and solid axles bouncing around on leaf springs and some rust holes big enough to pass a jelly donut thru for $12k and call it a day....or spend 4-5x that and drive around in a space shuttle truck w 700hp lol...take your pick
I wanted a brown colored seats in my Platinum... not offered, just black....other color cost an extra $9,000/ package deal only, so guess I'll get a King Ranch or just forget it and keep my Platinum with massage seats!
Guys this is not a new F150 for 2024, it's just an update and refresh to the current model. 2026 we'll get a new designed F150, I do agree Ford somewhat screwed a lot people with limiting the options to certain models.
Ford has always had the most engine configuration /options and tow packages then any other maker. They are now scaling that back; they are trying to keep costs down and keeping it simple. They cannot continue in the direction they are going. Listen trucks in general are so pricey, so a basic STX 2.7 or 2.7 XLT with the 302A package will be their biggest sellers? Sadly dealers are also to blame, killing this business. You are correct a stupid reply from the engineer. They simply copped it from RAM and put a slight twist on it for the F150 lol.. I'm not married to any of these makers. My 2023 is my first F150 XLT with your same dash. And love my 2.7L when towing our Travel Trailer on our NE grades in NC & NE Tenn and great mpg's here in Miami,FL 18.5 -19.5 on Eco Mode. My recent truck was the GMC Elevation 2.7L and the only reason I switched was GMC no longer offered the center Console on the 2.7L GMC but they offer it for all their other motor choices. So all makers are making changes. Here I have a $55K truck and no garage door opener, no memeory seats lol Yet our daugthers car just under 38K has all of it; but hey, it cannot tow lol ...Oh and I do like this 10 Spd Trans thats what's giving great mpg's even while towing. To see 8 & 9th gear while towing is insane lol
For sure. It could definitely always be worse. But in a truck with the overall sales volume of the F-150, Ford should have the economies of scale to support a base engine. They could even take a 2.7 or 3.5 and remove the turbos. Same block & heads, but maybe more compression. A lot of ppl really don’t enjoy the idea of a small, high-boost twin-turbo V-6 in a truck, and can’t imagine keeping one for a decade plus. Especially after the warranty expires. Thanks again for the comments!!!
As far as the options “package” the expedition has been that way for a while now. But think bout this trucks used to be much more basic and we had to do everything aftermarket. Every one complains bout prices I’d love to see a true base model come back..
Couldn’t agree more. Our first F-150 was a 1997 with 4.6 V-8, manual transmission, manual transfer case, manual locks, manual crank windows, cloth seats with manual adjustment…. and there was nothing wrong with it. A little light on power but it ran like a champ and had zero issues 🤷♂️
From the sound of things, no. At least mechanically. There is a price reduction though. Clearly Ford is trying to get more people into a PowerBoost..... not sure if it's CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) related, or for some other reason.
@@ArmyProperty and fleet got hurt also with this by adding more expensive engine and last year they removed 100 equipment forcing them to go up a notch from the get go
The digital instrument cluster is very easy to read. Tachometer reads to the 100 rpm, so is better than analog Tach and the speedometer reads to 1 mph, again better than analog speedo. I think the 2024 looks plain compared to previous versions; I think the 2018-2020 is the best looking F-150 to date and the 2021-2023 is the next best. (2022 Lariat Powerboost owner) Overall, though, I agree with your general disappointment in what Ford did for 2024.
Actually, you sort of do to get an aluminum body. This is a game-changer that is unfortunately is a Ford-exclusive. I am not brand loyal, but I won't buy a steel-body truck again.
New grill new tailgate and price increase. Thanks ford……
5.0 V8 is the way to go for 2024. Saw one at local dealer for $53K SXT
Okay I can’t believe I’m the first comment here.
I own the 2021 Powerboost…
This F150 gentleman’s work truck is the bomb!
I don’t care what one review has to say about this being a problem for Ford, I’d like to firmly disagree.
This vehicle performs better then any work truck of its comparison .
I’ll go so far as to say it outperforms the early versions of the F250 in ways too many to mention.
With it’s 12700 lb factory tow package and 7.2 onboard generator this baby is amazing, o let me count the way’s.
I must have landed a gem because it’s been trouble free thus far.
Out of my small fleet of truck’s it’s the one I want to drive.
2021 Lariat 501A.
I’m a proud owner for sure.
The PowerBoost is an amazing truck!! We had one for two years and put 60,000 hard miles on it with basically zero issues. Our problem with the 2024 is the fact that they're making it harder and harder to save money on these things. By eliminating 90% of the "buildable combinations" they're basically forcing you to buy an options package (or an entire trim level) you don't need or want, just to get one feature. Anyway, enjoy your PowerBoost!!!
@@ArmyProperty….Exactly I just purchased a barebones 2023 XLT powerboost. $56,000 I wanted the powerboost but didn’t want a ton of extra options.
Removing 3.3 suck for fleets….cost more to fix,more of a base price and those engines are prone to break sooner than NA engine
2025 complete refresh maybe🤔
I ordered my XLT 302A Powerboost with console shifter for all the reasons you mentioned. I didn't want to wait and see what Ford dumped on us with the "refresh". I'm happy.
Good comments. I’ve realized most of the same things. Your video will help lots of people who don’t take the time to do so much research. Tailgate is neat but I agree it’d be great if there was a more notable new feature.
New feature is the revamped all electric lightning
Well, i built a 2024 regular cab XL 4x4 5.0, just added spray-in bedliner and wheel well liners. 2024 XL 4x4 comes with 3.73 gearing and tow- haul package, so if you build a 2023with same options, it comes out pretty much the same..... but you now get the 12" infotainment screen and it has been refreshed. So, to me the 2024 was a no brainer. I ordered one.
Yeah, i still cancelled my order though:)
100% true. You have to be lucky to only get the things you want.
Exactly. It's why we're thinking about picking up a used 2021 so we can get back into a PowerBoost... and get the features we actually want!!
Great video. Case in point is that in order to get the power pedals on an XLT, you have to spend over $9000 on the highest package instead of paying less than $200 for a stand alone option last year.
Exactly. It's ridiculous.
Totally agree. You can’t order a powerboost in a platinum trim with tow mirrors. You have to step down to Ecoboost if you want tow mirrors. Can’t opt out in the sunroof. Totally sucks. Ford is tightening its belt. Cutting costs big time. They must be bleeding money.
I just came across your channel. This video is on point. I wonder how many new buyers will realize how much they don't need some of those options they bought in the past now that they have to buy expensive packages or go up in trim level to get them? I have an F-150 with the HDP and max tow packages, but I'm not convinced an F-200 would make it. It would be kind of like the Titan XD and we know how that faired.
For sure. Unfortunately there's a very small market (of which we're definitely a member) for an F-150 that can hold 3,000 pounds of payload and pull a 14k trailer. Out of curiosity, how much do you tow/haul with your HDPP??? Does it hold up well? Never talked to someone who had one.
@@ArmyProperty My F-150 is a 2022 long bed XLT SuperCab (extended cab) with a 5.0 and 3.73 rear and I tow an Oliver travel trailer with a 7K GVWR. I usually pull around 6.5K with 1,400 lbs. of passengers, gear and hitch weight. I’m not really taxing this truck and it handles my trailer and load effortlessly. My previous truck was a Tundra 1794. The engine and rear were very strong but it had abysmal payload and towing numbers, not to mentions MPG. There wasn’t a lot out there when I was looking to replace it and other half tons I found only offered about 500 llbs. more payload.
@@bryaninnc5511 that’s outstanding. You definitely got one of the last of a dying breed.
I should be able to buy a base XL with a B&O sound system if that's what I want.
Hahahahaha yup
Your best video yet. Everyone is dwelling on the tailgate; no one is mentioning all of the stuff that is going away (long bed extended cab, HDPP) Volkswagen did a similar decontent with the 2020 on up Golfs/GTIs; now past gen Golfs seem to be selling for more than new ones.
Wait, the long-bed extended cab is going away??? Jesus
I'm disappointed that I cannot order a 2wd supercrew with 6.5 box anymore. Why do people even buy a truck with a 5.5 box? Might as well buy a minivan!
I actually haul stuff in my truck, and have always got it done with 2wd.
Ridiculous
Great show and information ! I totally agree 👍 and appreciate, myself can't afford a brand new truck today without taking out a large car loan .😢
I guess I will keep my 2016 F150 .😊
@@andregonsalvez9244 nothing wrong with a 2016!!!!
Look at a Tundra today, nothing but quality. You could see it in the dept of the paint ,the bed liner texture, thr truck.,made Ford look like a truck shot with piss. I will flip my ford truck if the quality sucks
The Thing that p***** me off the most are the consoles and the sun roofs Some of us are too big and too long wasted the sun roof takes our head room and the console takes our leg room it's not very comfortable to ride in these trucks anymore Some of us are too big and too long wasted the sun roof takes our head room and the console takes our leg room it's not very comfortable to ride in these trucks anymore
Remember the 2024 is a mid cycle refresh (i.e. cosmetics). Tailgate and the fugly winch on the tremor are about all that's new.
One hopeful positive of 90% less options is improved quality with simplification.
Look at other manufacturers like Toyota, tesla. This is what they are doing,
Yup. Tesla offers like 4-5 exterior colors, two interior colors, and maybe a couple other choices (seating config, etc). That's definitely one way to do it. But Ford trucks have always been customizable, because there are so many different customer types and they use their trucks in so many different ways. And the increased grouping of features into option packages will lead directly to higher prices out the door, because customers will be forced to buy a ton of stuff they don't want, to get the one thing they do want. It's just a damn shame.
@@ArmyProperty well reducing configuration complexity can reduce manufacturing costs in addition to improving quality. Yet to see if ford passes savings on to customers. But I think this the direction of the future.
@@jw8578 yeah, sadly you’re probably right. Some consulting firm (McKinsey, etc) probably came in and told them to do it. They probably said something like “your customers have lots of brand loyalty so they’re going to STFU and buy what you tell them to buy, and they’ll pay what you tell them to pay” and Ford said “you know, you’re probably right” and it was a done deal.
I ordered a Platinum Plus and am being told that I won’t be getting the pro access tailgate. Ridiculous.
Almost everything about the 2024's is ridiculous!
@@ArmyProperty I'm with you. no doubt that the 2024 lineup is underwhelming...You forgot to mention that no LED DRLs on the XLT which is a shame... The LED DRLs on the 2023 model are the same ones on the 2023 and 2024 Lariat and it looks like Ford included the digital screens on all trims to one up Chevy.. Chevy did a mid year refresh in 2022 for the silverados and all LTs and up come with the dual digital screens, but with Ford now, I have to get a Lariat in order to get 2 things, LED DRLs and the homelink system aka the 3 button garage door opener which came with my LT Silverado.. To me it seems the Fail-150 is the better tow vehicle and I was considering trading in for one but not anymore.. with 1.9%/72 on the 2023s, you're better off with that year model.. 2024 = utter disappointment.
@@Bronco2Cj agreed in full... what a disappointment
@@ArmyProperty Indeed.. btw, I thought the truck in this video went bye bye?
I get what you are saying, but this an opportunity for the aftermarket to thrive.
Ford trucks are starting to look dated. Maybe it’s the cab?
I see 2004 in everything they done since.
Man I just bought a 23.. And ur right ford's digital guages are terrible. I actually don't mind them in the chevy. They actually look nice and are easy to read.. But ford's look cheap, they just don't fit right..
Couldn't agree more!!!
Turbo longevity in a truck? Fake worry. Turbos/superchargers and trucks are the MOST COMMON marriage of all vehicles on earth. Turbos/blowers have been on diesels for generations, they have moved millions of Semi rigs with 1mill miles odomoters. Doubting a 6 cyl gasser w turbos is like doubting a 5.9T Cummins or a '91 GMC Syclone? Just drive it and enjoy! Cant make anyone happy even in the future(2024) w 500tq small V6 twin turbos? lol...its basicly a small displacement Nissan GTR engine in your truck and people think "but is it reliable??" after the 5.4L 3 valve debacle and 6.0T deez snafu's if your rolling dice w Ford your probably still paranoid and thats understandable....
Nobody is gonna miss that NA base V6 motor they cancelled. Thats why you take the 400hp/400tq DOHC 5.0L Coyote(basicly a Cobra motor) and throw on a dealer installed/warrantied intercooled supercharger for 700+ hp and never look back if your scared of a supercar V6TT. People are Always gonna have something to bitch about lol. Fords have the coolest motors at the moment....2.7/3.5TT....5.0 mustang cobra engine, 7.3 big block, 6.7 diesel 500/1000tq....amazing stuff!
"I cant believe my new all aluminum, turbo'd all aluminum engine with canbus aerospace grade computers and 10 airbags costs more than 40k?" People forget how good we have it now. You dont have to get out of your truck to lock the hubs for 4wd, computers keep you on the road when its raining, back up cameras on integrated laptop screens, on board power supplies, subwoofer stereos, transformer tailgates, LED lighting thats x2 as bright as old yellow bulbs, etc;
If you want a 'Mans working truck' be brave and go get a 170hp V8 70s or 80s RC long bed w 5MT and solid axles bouncing around on leaf springs and some rust holes big enough to pass a jelly donut thru for $12k and call it a day....or spend 4-5x that and drive around in a space shuttle truck w 700hp lol...take your pick
I wanted a brown colored seats in my Platinum... not offered, just black....other color cost an extra $9,000/ package deal only, so guess I'll get a King Ranch or just forget it and keep my Platinum with massage seats!
Agreed - and it’s crazy that they push you into a black package for the 701 and 702 trim package.
They did the same thing in 2008 All the car manufacturers consolidated into packages Try to streamline
Guys this is not a new F150 for 2024, it's just an update and refresh to the current model. 2026 we'll get a new designed F150, I do agree Ford somewhat screwed a lot people with limiting the options to certain models.
Fair enough. But they aren’t helping out by drastically reducing the availability of features / options that the customers want.
Ford has always had the most engine configuration /options and tow packages then any other maker. They are now scaling that back; they are trying to keep costs down and keeping it simple. They cannot continue in the direction they are going. Listen trucks in general are so pricey, so a basic STX 2.7 or 2.7 XLT with the 302A package will be their biggest sellers?
Sadly dealers are also to blame, killing this business. You are correct a stupid reply from the engineer. They simply copped it from RAM and put a slight twist on it for the F150 lol.. I'm not married to any of these makers. My 2023 is my first F150 XLT with your same dash. And love my 2.7L when towing our Travel Trailer on our NE grades in NC & NE Tenn and great mpg's here in Miami,FL 18.5 -19.5 on Eco Mode. My recent truck was the GMC Elevation 2.7L and the only reason I switched was GMC no longer offered the center Console on the 2.7L GMC but they offer it for all their other motor choices. So all makers are making changes. Here I have a $55K truck and no garage door opener, no memeory seats lol Yet our daugthers car just under 38K has all of it; but hey, it cannot tow lol ...Oh and I do like this 10 Spd Trans thats what's giving great mpg's even while towing. To see 8 & 9th gear while towing is insane lol
For sure. It could definitely always be worse. But in a truck with the overall sales volume of the F-150, Ford should have the economies of scale to support a base engine. They could even take a 2.7 or 3.5 and remove the turbos. Same block & heads, but maybe more compression. A lot of ppl really don’t enjoy the idea of a small, high-boost twin-turbo V-6 in a truck, and can’t imagine keeping one for a decade plus. Especially after the warranty expires. Thanks again for the comments!!!
As far as the options “package” the expedition has been that way for a while now. But think bout this trucks used to be much more basic and we had to do everything aftermarket. Every one complains bout prices I’d love to see a true base model come back..
Couldn’t agree more. Our first F-150 was a 1997 with 4.6 V-8, manual transmission, manual transfer case, manual locks, manual crank windows, cloth seats with manual adjustment…. and there was nothing wrong with it. A little light on power but it ran like a champ and had zero issues 🤷♂️
Is there any changes to PowerBoost for 2024?
From the sound of things, no. At least mechanically. There is a price reduction though. Clearly Ford is trying to get more people into a PowerBoost..... not sure if it's CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) related, or for some other reason.
From what I understand, the towing capacity went down 500 pounds because they made the 36 gallon tank standard.
Reduced 2000 parts and probably will increase prices for that many dollars
That’s EXACTLY what they did!!
@@ArmyProperty and fleet got hurt also with this by adding more expensive engine and last year they removed 100 equipment forcing them to go up a notch from the get go
@@josipdolic6391 yup..... ridiculous
Flows together if it’s optional HUD there
ok good to know!
The digital instrument cluster is very easy to read. Tachometer reads to the 100 rpm, so is better than analog Tach and the speedometer reads to 1 mph, again better than analog speedo. I think the 2024 looks plain compared to previous versions; I think the 2018-2020 is the best looking F-150 to date and the 2021-2023 is the next best. (2022 Lariat Powerboost owner) Overall, though, I agree with your general disappointment in what Ford did for 2024.
You don’t have to by a ford
😂
Actually, you sort of do to get an aluminum body. This is a game-changer that is unfortunately is a Ford-exclusive. I am not brand loyal, but I won't buy a steel-body truck again.
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