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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Flow is the latest creation from the developers that brought us Camp Out and the epic Kitfox, but what exactly is Flow? And why should you care?
FLOW demo video by //42:
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I am visually impaired, and I think this will be a godsend Thank you so much for showing this one off Mav
Accessability is huge for us, and we worked with a few key players in the space to make sure Flow was...dialed in. Thank you for the kind words!
It definitely has potential, but I don't see myself using it for now. I don't use the default menus enough to warrant a makeover and I have no intention to use scripts at the moment. Also, when I need a break I simply pause the sim. I use the sim to experience it, not just to give my computer something to do. So no point in letting it keep flying on its own when I'm not around. Also, every addon is a possible source for problems (the top menu integration for Flight Control Replay v5 always makes the sim crash as soon as I press the button to start the flight, for example).
I never thought I'd get excited over a contextual menu! Looks really useful!
The thing I'm looking for is: (1) ability to change livery or aircraft mid-flight, and (2) change airfield with drop-down menu while flying (like we have in FSX/P3D/XP). I absolutely hate having to go back to the main menu first and then to the set-up world menu for any change in those three items (livery/aircraft/airfield). In fact I hate it so much that I hardly fly MSFS anymore and have moved over to X-Plane 12, which also has my favourite instant fly-by view!
Airfield yes, aircraft no, that’s a msfs thing they can’t effect sadly, unless you turn the dev menu on then you can
When I first heard of this, I thought it was just a GTA V style menu, but taking a look at the trailer and seeing the additional features that this opens up…WOW! Like you said…a GAME CHANGER!
It's been a common response, and we're REALLY excited about everyone "getting it" !!!
You and huddison channels I stay in trouble but love the channel
Promo video from the link looks excellent, will keep my eye out for this.
Looks great. Thank you
Honestly, I can't complain about not having Freeware on Xbox. I'm more than happy to support developers that deserve it.
Thank you for understanding that it's beyond our control. The moment they allow vetted developers to release freeware, we would do just that and unleash the Flow (free) tier on Xbox as well. However that's not currently the case, so we've built Essentials to work in the confines of the console space, expect it in the coming months!
Nice! Definitely going for the pro version for the full amount of features!
9:02 Well, we have had a addon for quite a long time that removes that handlebar so you never see it when you move the cursor but the menu is still there.
Yeah, had that for a while when the toolbar was just STUCK there.
Yep, if that's all you're after it works pretty well, but it's not the ideal approach to menu management. Hovering an invisible space with the hopes that it comes up will never be faster than a click and having everything you need centimeters away. But don't take our word for it, give it a run when we release. Flow (free) will include our bundled redesign of the default toolbar too, just as an added feature. But you'll need to first disable your current toolbar mod.
@@Parallel42 my post wasn’t to suggest it was a different option to your tool, only that I’ve seen many that don’t know the mod to remove the handlebar is available, including those that have taken nice screenshots only for it to be spoiled by that. I don’t have a problem with bringing up the toolbar even with the handlebar gone as I know where to place the cursor, but I’m not suggesting it makes any difference to the speed of use or that it’s as fast as your tool.
Disable the toolbar mod? are you saying this utility will conflict with this mod I use to remove the handlebar that appears for the normal toolbar, because that’s a no go for me, I find that appearing with every move of the cursor very annoying.
That also seems strange as it appears your utility doesn’t remove the original toolbar, it appears to be a separate thing, so are you sure about that? Are you saying you are completely replacing the original toolbar on top of having this separate and different interface? I hope that’s not the case as if anything these would complement each other, no need to move the cursor to the top to get the toolbar options AND no handlebar appearing to annoyingly remind me where the original toolbar is, that would be a win win for me.
If it’s the case that there is a conflict I seriously hope you include an option to remove the handlebar as I can’t consider using, let alone purchasing this if I can’t stop that stupid design decision from popping up at any mouse movement.
@@WhiteHawk77 flow has the option to completely remove the Microsoft flight simulator toolbar. And of course an elegant option to bring it right back with a single click. Additionally you have the option to let flow "mod" the toolbar for a more elegant approach to its use. Naturally you can't have two toolbar mods active, so you will have to choose one.
@@Parallel42 aaah ok, that’s great, even more interested now. 😁
This is really helpfull, now I miss my ‘Chaseplane’ for views in P3D waaay less
Would be amazing if you could have custom controller binding profiles for each aircraft through this. Especially with the intro of helis and gliders, I'm changing back and forth a lot! it'd be nice to have FLOW control that for us, rather than have to go into the clunky UI
Thanks for the first look vid! Excited for this one and where it could go :)
You can make control profiles, native sim feature. I have a piston, twin jet, single jet, quad jet etc profiles on my throttles :)
Thanks! I meant to auto load the correct profile when I choose the plane, rather than having to enter into the UI and switch profiles. If that’s already a thing, my god I’ve really missed something 😂 perhaps I’m just being lazy haha!
@@SamI10093 Confident that I'm understanding your request, I'm confident it can't be done. The reason you need to exit to pause menus for control changes like that is due to what needs to shift "behind the scenes". Ever unplug a USB or plug one in and have your sim crash? yep...
@@Parallel42 thanks for the reply! That's a shame but not the end of the world. Looks like a great product you've got here regardless - excited to get my hands on it :) good luck with release!
"It's nice that we can have the same thing with horrible ports. Consoles have limitations. They're made to be simple."
As a Console Simmer, THANK YOU for saying this. I'm still blown away over having the Sim on my Xbox, and there's nothing wrong with that. There are some diehard outliers who believe we're "below" them, but at the end of the day, we all have the same passion.
At //42 we've always always kept console users on an even playing field. Sure there are things we won't be able to do, but it's due to ecosystem not our willpower. Flow Essentials will be submitted to the Microsoft store for Xbox.
asobo needs to consult with some of these amazing developers, they could really learn something
Honestly, the whole radial menu thing leaves me completely cold. I'm not bothered at all by having to move my mouse to the top of the screen, and i've been hiding that little "hook" that shows up when you move your mouse via a convenient Flightsim.to mod for a good while.
HOWEVER! I'm curious to see the custom weather, weights & balances etc. windows. Because frankly, especially the latter is complete and total rubbish in default, with numbers and sliders jumping all over the place. Also, maybe, just maybe they'll have the option to switch/convert units conveniently, without having to change the sim's entire system to metric or imperial in the options. One can dream.
On its own, just a menu replacement is... convinient but not a world breaker, the replacement PAGES however coming are really really exciting as is the potential for 3rd party widgets and custom feature support for aircraft and other module developers to build in convinient control.
The wheel makes a bigger difference than you'd imagine, as a test try the free version first when it comes out!
Well said and I agree 100%!
that looks awesome , sure i will get it
Thank you in advance!
I'm wondering if I want to keep pursuing the Loupedeck. If you could use this to setup and change controls options by airplane, there would be no question that this is a must have. Actually, I think it is a must have anyway!
FSUIPC can do that. You can set joystick buttons, axis sensitivity, encoders and keyboard assignments all on a per-aircraft basis. I've used it since the FS2004 days. Takes a bit of reading / watching TH-cam tutorials, but once it's set up, it's seamless. It detects what plane you have loaded, and applies your custom control assignments automatically without any user interaction.
@@barthandelus8340 Thanks! I'll look into it!
Im sold! Hope it works on VR too!
Honestly wish Asobo had done that with the sim day one!!!
They need to take notes.
Fear not, 42 is the answer! ;-)
If you have head/eye tracking, the location of the default Asobo menus means that your focal point leaves the 3D world location you want to look at in order to view the menu. This then often forces you to disable head/eye tracking until you're done manipulating menus. If this allows or puts the menu at the center of your focal point no matter where you're looking, it is a huge plus.
Yup this works with that just perfectly.
That's not an issue with head tracking by my experience, but I can see (no pun intended) how this could be problematic with eye tracking.
@@Jigsaw407 0 issues with tracking. We use it internally.
just watched a youtube about flying a Blackburn Beverly from BC Canada to Glasgo UK, just thought it could be an interesting flight to recreate for your cross Canada adventure.... although the twin otter maybe more practable.... have fun
This is AWESOME 👌
Thank you!
From my POV (game style) Flow is completelly useless 😮💨 I now understand why Skypark has not received improvments since a year ! Flow does a lot of things but it only presents same things as original MSFS with a better design (MSFS toolbar is horrible) or add functions that I don't use because it is used to play arcade style (click shortcuts instead of interacting with cockpit as an example) Flow is opposite to simulation gameplay. By the way the design is excellent (which is the best force at //42).
Now it is released (and as they create software without any bugs 🤐), I really hope they will work hard on Skypark v3. I'm hyped with v3 but sceptic about new features 🤞🙏
THIS IS MY THOUGHTS (keep cool on replies 😉)
I'd disagree, Flow has functions you can't access in the cockpit, some things yes are replacements for cockpit stuff, but i love the doors, ( a hastle in the sim itself sometimes to reach and open/close) the sim's metar system blows, calculators... allsorts of little nice simplifcations that make it a more simulated experience rather than having to fly my camera around to do things that I could just reach.
@@AvAngel As you said, it simplify things... which in my opinion ruins immersion
How do you open the ui
Does flow work in VR? If not it's useless I'm afraid.
Its a complex workspace with odd restrictions but they are in fact working on it yes.
So if you click on a screen with no button/control under your mouse pointer the flow always comes up? What about using mouse to drag views or move back onto the monitor screen moving from another monitor - will not this be interferred with by flow software?
I run multi monitor myself, if you're not tabbed into the main window it doesn't come up, not sure about popped out sim windows, but i suspect if its a window you can open the menu on in sim, it will work, if not, it won't.
@@AvAngel ok thanks
DO you know if Chaseplane is ever following?
No information sorry.
Does it work in vr?
That is apparently being worked on also, VR has odd constraints.
Looks good, but I've still not forgiven P42 for SkyPark.
You're missing a bit then, they've done great things since. Never experienced Skypark but the Kitfox and Campout are epic.
@@AvAngel No no. Not missing anything. The KitFox is good. The Campout is fluff. SkyPark is trash.
@@Stwutter1973 As our highest selling product, I beg to differ. The active community Discord also proves this to simply be personal opinion, to which you're completely entitled to. Additionally, we're able to simply say, you're likely not a fit for the product either. Trash tho? A bit harsh, we wouldn't go as far as calling you that, the quality of your approach however...that's a different story. //e
Amazing. When I had issues with SkyPark on its first release, not a peep. Crtitcise the product in a YT comment - direct reply.
SkyPark is pretty - that's it. It has almost no more functionality than upon it's (expensive) release, and compared to Neofly, is - IMO - trash, especially for the price. You have staff and money. This is why it's popular (and congrats on that). Your KitFox is a fine plane, but being able to shove a stove next to it may excite Avangel, but it does nothing for me.
@@Stwutter1973 please provide your ticket number. We have 0 Skypark tickets and have had that for some time. I can assure you we don't close tickets for fun...
Worst preview ....just talking ....
How else do I preview a menu? I was using it, and talking about it.
Flying doesn't help me preview it more :D
How rude, you can be kinder and most importantly constructive even if expressing opinions or criticisms
@@shivendrasingh2355 how rude you say something like that to me. Please don’t be so rude in future
I hope you get a hug today.