Framework Cyberdeck - DIY Portable PC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2023
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I designed and built this custom Cyberdeck from Framework laptop parts. Its a fully functional windows PC, but also has some really unique features.
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It's an interesting idea to use Framework parts in totally custom enclosures. I, too, find Raspberry Pi and such to be a bit too limited.
You know you can find some older AIO PC's that are just old and the mainboards for those can be as small as the pedestal it sits on. No more than 1ft² at most. Also you could try to find silicone wrapped wires since they are much more flexible than standard plastic coatings on wires. The only downfall is they are usually pricier.
You could say you're using Framework as a framework
Framework does intend for their motherboards to be added into custom enclosures, it's a big part of being able to upgrade the laptop and reuse the components
its freaking genius
Limited and underpowered, if you're gonna use it as a PC and not with rpi-specific software/modules then its not worth it.
I think this shows how much framework changed notebooks in general. It doesn't have the freedom that desktop PCs have but now we can literally build our own notebooks ourselves. Hopefully something like this comes to smartphones and other devices.
Well, it's not like you've got much freedom with pc parts too - a new generation of CPUs likely won't even work with your motherboard and everything is chunky asf
@@ruslan_yefimovAMD supported the am4 socket for like 5 years+
framework phone?!
@@ruslan_yefimov "a new generation of CPU" this a given. but literally everything else has freedom for 7+ Years. i can use a GPU from 2005 ffs.
this shows my ass
This video is so great on so many levels.
As a 60 yo who's been involved with electronics since 1980, I'm amazed at what is being done today.
You have to have so many skills to not only design and build a project like this, and then your video is top notch.
Really cool, my projects aren't even in the same universe.
I feel like a team of people is behind this channel, but I trust you that it's just you.
Some people are gifted.
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This is the kind of custom build I think of whenever the modularity of Framework is mentioned. It shows just how versatile such a platform is, and that you don't need to be limited to just their options for the chassis the parts fit into.
And when framework releases a motherboard with a better processor, you can just swap it in knowing that everything will still be in the same place as the old one. A laptop with a practical CPU upgrade path that isn't just "buy a new one" has been needed for a long time and it's finally here.
This is be good for 3d modeling and programming? How far could u go with this? I'm just beginning so I'm sure it has everything I need for now just want to double check
@@jomitoh5111Would be great for programming, but 3D modeling benefits from a dedicated GPU that afaik these don't have. But they might eventually be compatible with external GPUs so there would be a lot of options for a custom "dock" for home use.
@@0v_x0 theres already GPU modules + you could use the usb-c ports to use like a usb-c gpu dock or something
@@jomitoh51113d modelling works pretty fine on a fairly new CPU as long as you don't wanna do rendering, bigger simulations or scenes. (I don't recommend doing those things on a laptop anyways)
@@0v_x0 so what is the main purpose these are used for? I'm new to these in general
This is one of those rare examples of someone making their own system and it genuinely looking like it's come from a big manufacturer somewhere... This is impressive, in appearance and design, I genuinely love the look of this.
I thought the same thing. This looks like it could have been a commercial product... Maybe from that alternative time line... Maybe from one of the seasons of Archer 🤔
Reminds me of the uConsole DevTerm, awesome design.
it looks nice but it would never come from a big manufacturer. too many thing exposed
Honestly it looks better and more rugged than a commercial product from 2023. You just don't see stuff made with this much metal anymore.
The framework actually uses an internal USB for the keyboard/fingerprint reader and you can get breakouts for it so you dont need to loose a usb port for input. Framework also is going to start selling an eDP cable so you dont need to give up the other port for the display.
Yeah, that was something that kinda bugged me about that setup. If he can adapt a PS2 to USB using a middleman microcontroller, why not just make an adapter to run them to the keyboard and trackpad IO instead of using up a USB port?
Keep in mind, I'm not saying I'm not impressed. I am more curious about the design choice
I didn't know you could get breakouts for that. I do hope they start selling just the eDP cables, that would be great!
@@benmakeseverything it looks like framework has an eDP cable on their shop right now, but I am not sure if that is the right one. I saw a thread on the framework forums discussing trying to use the built in eDP on the mainboard for things like media PCs and the main complication appears to be that the framework mainboard eDP is not entirely standard. the last comment is about two weeks ago, so I have a feeling that the cable listed on their site doesn't really help us here.
I'm hoping it will work though because I kinda want to get started on tweaking your design a bit to make it a clamshell, and whether or not we can use the eDP port will play into how I make those design tweaks.
an EDP445 cable??
@@benmakeseverythingCan you make an 18.4 inch laptop With the desktop style keyboard. Video request
"Cyberdecks" in Neuromancer, Cyberpunk, and Shadowrun were described as basically being keyboards. Maybe a little thicker than typical keyboards. With many special function keys/controls, large (book-sized) slots for storage modules, and a phone jack. But without any kind of display - since, of course, a decker/jacker/hacker is completely immersed in some sort of virtual/cyber environment.
(You could always pay extra to install a display screen. So the rest of your team would be able to see your situation and progress.)
Closest you could get right now is using a pair of the AR glasses that cost far too much money as a screen.
Screen sharing is a common feature of networking software now, like Teams. AR glasses would make a great addition - plugged in, to reduce the number of batteries required.
Your choice to put the hinge screws into the base metal just put you head and shoulders above probably 98% of laptop designs. Very cool!
If laptop makers could reduce the cost of manufacturing by 2 cents by selling their grandma, they'd do it 💀
instead of black electrical tape, because it will turn into goo over time, consider using something like 'liquid tape' or whatever brand. great build!
The best thing would probably be to use some heatshrink tubing, though carefully applied kapton tape would do in a pinch.
@@jnhartonyep heatshrink is definitely best for sure
Tesa Tape is also good!
You've just convinced me that the world needs laptops with cinema wide screens. It's a little amusing that the old portable computers from back in the day got unusually close to this on accident.
As a kid I remember drawing what I would later learn was a cyberdeck. I was obsessed with not just the functionality but the blocky look as well. Really cool! Maybe I'll actually build one of these one day
The aesthetics of the exposed guts on the back is absolutely approved of from here. Right on the dot with the cyberdeck theme, if you ask.
in stead of the trackball I personally would have gone for the IBM trackpoint. I'm old enough to have used and appreciated that little gem and can still this day still recommend it.
Love the energy, love the design, love the recycling!!!!1!1!11!!
Also, first vid I see and an immediate subscribe.
You can implement scroll with another mouse button. Hold that button and the trackball can scroll up-down *and* left-right. This is how Lenovo Trackpoint works. I would love to fork this project and design it with a Lenovo Keyboard.
The missing trackpoint is the main thing keeping me from trying a Framework TBH. I even considered an HP with a track point, but they didn't have the middle button for scroll.
Great project! I liked your useful inclusion of a dock and Arduino. You got 2 USB A, a USB C, and HDMI ports for your trouble.
i think holding caps lock would work well for this, i bet that's something that can be enabled in software
Thanks! You can actually find trackpoint modules by themselves online, I though about using one early in the design phase but opted for the trackball instead.
since he has that useless button on the mac keyboard that doesn't do anything, maybe he can map it to enable scrolling?
@@goof3209That would suck for those of us who use caps lock for typing.
Have the arduino treat the trackball as a scroll if you click both mouse buttons at the same time.
You are so organized and neat. You did what probably hundreds of employees in a large company did. Genius!
Loved every minute of this video. Absolutely brilliant design and it was a pleasure to watch being built! I didn't know Framework sold just the boards but now I am super intrigued. Best Cyberdeck to date!
I love it, Great video outlining your design process and execution.
The one feature I didn't expect and loved, the extra display inputs. Awesome idea for a potable computer!
Happy to hear an upgrade in the audio departament - your workshop medium shots does not hurt my ears anymore, like they used to in your previous videos. Important note here: I write this 'nitpicking flavoured' part of the comment solely because you asked for suggestions (mine is: keep up with the good quality audio and thank you for doing so!) But apart from that - I'm just blown away by your passion, quality control (both in product design and video production), and straight to the point attitude. Thanks for sharing all that! I love it and will stick with your channel for sure. Kudos from Poland! :)
Thanks! I am slowly trying to upgrade my gear to make better quality videos.
I love this cyberdeck. There are plenty projects on here, but this one is both cool, and practical day to day. Very inspiring!
This is one of the most incredible and capable portable computers I've seen. It can do anything, program stuff, has very good performance and even can take video input! I clicked on this video randomly from my main youtube page and got amazed by your skills and ideas.
Incredibly cool, imaginative and well executed. Good job man!
A idea for the swappable connectors. The tiny sucction cups that you get with some bathroom hooks and stuff for windsheilds might fit and give you some leverage. Cool video.
he could also use some 3M pads or other adhesives to glue on friction bars. Perfect little pc tho. Definition of built to order, all in it's... disorder.
Or use the CNC to give them all some texture for better grip. I'm not sure how much force is needed, so this may not be enough.
@@jakeaustin901 Yeah, serrations like a pistol slide
For scroll wheel you could use the trackball and one of the unused apple keys to switch between modes.
Or add a button to the arduino to change between scroll wheel and mouse pointer movement
I just pooped my pants daniele
Exactly what I was thinking.
This is one of the best DIY projects I've ever seen on TH-cam.
I was thinking about a laptop with a small factor like the Steam deck but without the controller layout, this is amazing thanks for sharing!
A great video. I also love the aesthetic of the old computers being fairly old myself - my first computer was a ZX Spectrum! This would have seemed bleeding edge tech, just going back ten years, so it's not that far out there. Very entertaining video.
This totally reminds me of the Toshiba Lbretto from the 90s! I remember seeing it as a kid and wanting one (despite not having any use for it at the time) 😅
This little thing blew my mind, it did not need it, did not have the money but it was just so awesome. Thought about buying a used one not that long ago 😅
@@Webshadow I almost did back in around 2005.
Found one unit in a display case at a local computer repair shop - it was a novelty item they put on display and didn't expect to even sell it. When I asked for the price, they couldn't even quote me and needed to have a discussion before asking for (equivalent of) USD150 (to be fair, it was in good working condition and did boot into Win 95 except the battery was dead and needed to be plugged in to work).
However, I couldn't justify buying it at the time as I still didn't have a use for a 486 running Win95 nor was it vintage enough to be collectible. Not to mention I was still a poor student back then and it would have wiped out a substantial part of my savings.
It's awesome seeing Framework components used like this! Great job on the build. 👍
This is super cool! Was waiting when a scene for this will start popping up, hopefully others get inspired by you.
This is such a neat build! One design suggestion for your next iteration: when you're trying to make a semi handheld device, it's really useful to split your mouse buttons out to the opposite side of the enclosure from your trackball/pad/stick/whathaveyou. This lets you click and drag things relatively comfortably with both thumbs.
Thanks, that's a good idea! The trackball module did have buttons on the board already so that's why I did it this way, but I could have wired up some additional ones to use instead.
Good idea! Maybe add a scroll wheel to the mouse click buttons on the opposite side of this Cyberdeck? So Trackball for the right thumb and moise buttons and scroll wheel for the left thumb?
And of course we need a mirrored version for all those lefthanded people.
I would buy that if it existed as an official product. The aesthetics, design, size and mobility is spectacular.
I love it, BY FAR the cleanest, nicest Cyberdeck build I've ever seen
This level of DIY engineering is fascinating. Wonderful display of creativity, hardware and software application.
Really cool project!
It's common to see DIY electronics projects, but it's rare to find one that genuinely looks fully thought out and very usable!
Great one!
Well done Ben! Also using it as a KVM is going to appeal to tons of makers. A scroll wheel on the left edge would be nice.
That is one amazing machine you made there.
Wish I could have one.
Love the form factor too.
Pretty cool project! Best outcome of this video is “Computers should be fun“ 😊 Thanks for showing!
Congrats on the build: really well thought out, and I think very much in the spirit of the framework ecosystem!
I like your idea, and even more the fact you turned this idea into a real useable computer 🙂
Given its Framwork h/w roots, I guess running Linux should not be a problem
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This is one of the more cool and useful projects I've seen in a while. Very cool in my opinion.
This is the coolest thing I've seen someone do with framework parts yet!
Great project! It turned out really well. I have one of those trackball modules as well. Apparently there's a pinout that will make it work on USB as well. I used to use an old piece of software called Applekeys which provided keymapping for the Apple Pro keyboard in Windows. I have no idea if it'll work on Apple's newer hardware, but it's something to look out for. To make the slide in modules easier to remove, you could mill a shallow notch on the underside, so you can hook your thumbnail into it.
Very, very good ideas/suggestions!
I love seeing the things people come up with. This definitely does not disappoint! Very cool.
I love this project! I'd love to see a version 2 that solves the main problems you ran into (hinge, exposed PCB and wires, etc).
Awesome! I will never get tired of cyberdeck builds.
Loving your build. v2 could be: custom keyboard utilizing QMK, custom made pcb and chok switches. You could use custom layout, remove unnecessary keys, add some chords, home row mods etc etc... Overall smaller design, remove hinges, let it be flat. Trackball is a nice touch, but consider lenovo trackpoint since keyboard could be custom made. Could be fun and open source portable terminal that outperforms smth like devterm.
A project like this and QMK/VIA seem like a fantastic match.
Such an awesome build. Well done. Would AutoHotKey allow you to map those Mac buttons to functions? Also, as much as I love trackballs, I wonder if one of the Thinkpad style TrackPoint input would be a better option since it is more compact and, if I remember correctly, pressure sensitive for how fast the mouse moves.
All in all, this is probably my favorite custom build projects I have ever seen. Well done!
AHK would probably need some kind of special plugin, since the apple buttons arent mapped to anything in windows i dont think
Fantastic work! I must say, i found the editing, and all the orange cyberpunkey schematic drawings with the console display font very pleasant to watch.
Amazing use of framework parts and one sick build! keep it up!
Very cool! But please don't use black electrical tape, it will turn into a sticky mess after a while, which will be very difficult to remove if you have to disassemble device again! Acetate cloth high temperature tape is best for this applications!
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll try to get some and replace it since this thing is easy to take apart.
@@benmakeseverything Also a small USB C extender to access the hidden port on the 6 way bringing it to the side next to the HDMI ?
Are you talking about what I know as kapton tape, or something more cloth-like?
@@SchoolforHackers Probably the black cloth tape you can find being used in automobiles. It's more cloth like, and almost always black. Sometimes, you can find this in older laptops holding down cables (e.g. older IBM Thinkpads' heatsink fan assembly etc.)
@@SchoolforHackers Yes, exactly as @Dreamslacker said. But only with an acrylic adhesive layer, not with a rubber one. This is now used in all modern laptops, at 2:10 you can see a small piece that holds the wires from the cooler in place. It holds up very well, and it's very easy to work with and remove. You can Google it: acetate cloth tape for laptops
Impressed!
Hoping ARM chips make their way to PCs and to Framework, we could have a passive version of this in a few years with little to no perf hit
It won't happen as long MS can't make an emulation layer to make Win32 applications works on ARM properly.
Also, low power x86 CPU-s can run passively.
@@tyaty I've got a Volterra (aka Surface Pro 9 ARM in a box) and Win32 apps run "fine". They're a bit slow if they try to do any heavy lifting or massive graphics operations (although games are quite happy) but not in any way broken. I'd say it's like having a Mac Mini with an M0.8! Not sure the motherboard is flexible enough to be given a whole different screen and a battery though, to make it into something like this :(
I absolutely love it my friend. I also appreciate your take on the uniqueness of our computers from the past... I do miss the 90s.
That's for sure, one of the best diy projects of the TH-cam. Amazing project.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🛠️ The video showcases the creation of a custom Cyberdeck using a Framework laptop motherboard, providing a fully capable Windows computer with unique features.
00:28 📝 A Cyberdeck, inspired by William Gibson's term, is essentially an artisan-crafted computer with a unique design and features, allowing for individual interpretation.
01:37 💻 Framework is a company that produces laptops with a modular and upgradable design, allowing users to build, upgrade, and repair their laptops themselves.
02:05 💽 The chosen hardware for this Cyberdeck is based on a Framework laptop motherboard, offering good performance and modular IO system, making it suitable for customization.
04:09 🖥️ The Cyberdeck features a 2400x900 IPS display, which allows a more usable 8x3 aspect ratio compared to 32x9 displays, and it's capable of being powered and supplied with video via a single USBC cable.
05:32 🔍 The Cyberdeck incorporates a mini Optical trackball and uses an Arduino to interface with it, providing a unique navigation method.
06:28 🎛️ The device maintains the swappable expansion port cards, offering additional functionality and customization options.
07:50 🛠️ The device's housing is created by 3D printing a skeleton and using aluminum plates for a sturdy yet aesthetically pleasing finish.
08:32 🏭 The aluminum plates can be cut and customized with various tools, making them accessible for DIY projects.
09:55 🎮 The device is equipped with additional video inputs, allowing it to function as a monitor for other devices, and the external buttons can be customized for specific functions.
16:55 🎮 Despite its unconventional design, the Cyberdeck offers good performance for various tasks, including playing games like Doom and Overwatch 2.
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This is cool, thanks!
Definitely wanna see a version 2 of this!! Challenge: Version 2 must use a corsair keyboard, and have a streamer setup style(stream labs, capture card feature, and use some sort of audio xlr input with compatibility to an audio mixer)
Dope cyberdeck, dude! I'm glad you made your video and I'm glad I found it!
Hi Ben, randomly stumbled on this video, one thing you could look into is Cerakoat. Would be pretty cool to color your raw aluminum. They have lots of crazy colors. I would recommend the air dry kind you can spray it with a small cheap HVLP gun harbor freight sells.
I did a bunch of car parts two weekends ago that turned out killer! Cheers. Cool project!
You can anodize pretty easily too with some items you may have in the garage
He...he made a laptop...
Yes, a laptop that isn't usable.
But those eye glances made me feel so sure of what he’s doing
@@patek2385how is it not usable?
@@ryeser4864 screen is too small, format of the screen is not productive, no proper touchpad, no full keyboard layout, I can go on
@@patek2385 don't exaggerate, please.
the computer is perfectly useable and useful. you just don't have a use case for it.
Seriously nice build there and well done presenting it. Framework is finding a new life in unexpected ways,
awesome job! I think your lil project is super cool!!
7:42 as a 3d print hobbyist, i can confirm this is true 😂
You either spend ages on CAD and do few iterations (note, I said _few_ not _perfect at 1st try_ ) or you do a bunch of iterations.
True in the professional realm as well, don't worry about it being some kind of lack of experience, it can at best reduce the amount of iterations and silly mistakes, but they still do happen.
hey you can try to somehow make the shift button change the trackball into scroll wheel, maybe connect the apple keyboard to the arduino with the trackball alltogether and then you could also remap the mac specific keys ? not sure if thats doable (usb host on arduino)
That's an interesting idea - I'll have to see if I can do some keymapping that will allow for that.
I've been wanting something like this so I can make a portable live streaming rig. I highly doubt I'll be able to get my hands on any of it but I have toyed with this very idea of a techdeck since I was a kid and you just showed me it's possible...idk if I'm gonna dive down this rabbit hole again or just find another way at this point, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who think this is a good idea. Subscribed, bells on, and looks like the framework main board is gonna be the spicy part, but man it'd be worth trying to save up for.
Amazing product ❤. Love the form factor .it's handheld nature . And the ability to work while still holding it
The fact that this kind of device is buildable now is so cool. Good call on using the framework PC.
This is one of coolest thing I saw on TH-cam for a long time
Well done! Nice attention to detail.
This is a really nice build, great video!
Man, that is brilliant. I'm really glad to see the content like this.
It looks like now I want to create something like that too, lol. Hope, I'll have a time soon.
Respect
Fantastic! I always wish more laptops and portable devices would let you use the screen for another device. Adding the integreated arduino is great too. I love that it actually plays a role in the function of the computer.
This is beautifully done! I'am going to do this build.
That's awesome! Really clean looking and functional.
You could probably glue little tabs to the port modules so you can pull them out without opening it.
Love it dude!
Great job.
This is nuts AND extremely satisfying to watch :) Good work!
Amazing piece of kit and it just looks beautiful. Whenever you decide to make more of these and sell them, I’ll be first in line to buy one!
This looks fantastic. Great work
This is incredible. Thank you!
Incredible work man, great job!
I really love your channel and I am so happy to have found your channel. I am no expert in building stuff, but you are an inspiration
Cool project, it's refreshing to see someone do things out side the usuals
This is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time.
Amazing work Ben.
Dude, this is so cool! I just learned how to swap and clone an hdd to sdd and I thought I was cool. I have so much more to learn. Thanks for the great video.
This thing is awesome. Great job, I'm definitely subscribing.
This is incredibly good! Well done Sir.
looks super clean. Love it.
Wow! You did a good job! I'm very impressed.
I can't remember the last time a TH-cam video impressed me so much. I never comment on videos. Dude......Awesome.
Wooww definitely sick build and designs, love it
Awesome video, I just discovered your channel and subscribed! Looking forward to all the content to come!
I love it. this feels like a product release to a cool product... and now i want it
Love the Arduino integration and the fact that you can connect a Raspberry Pi to the monitor. Really cool tinkering machine
It’s very cool that you open sourced the hardware design.
Awesome build my friend. I remember the days when computers and electronics all looked different . It was a much cooler time. Keep up the Amazing work. 😎
First time seeing your videos and i fricken love it! Great work and super cool design
I love this, and am envious of your CNC mill.
First video I’ve ever seen from this channel.. SUBSCRIBED!
Wow this is really cool, nice job!
this has inspired me to do something similar fro my portable drawing setup thank you for the inspo
Sooo cool! Thank U and framework for making this possible!
Love everything about this! Thanks for sharing.