A COMPLETELY Upgradeable Laptop? - Framework Laptop Review
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - You can't repair a MacBook!
0:15 - But you should be able to
0:42 - G.Skill
0:57 - Intro
1:06 - How Framework Started
2:28 - Opening it up
5:10 - Modular IO
8:30 - Motherboard
11:45 - Keyboard, trackpad, screen
14:20 - Setup and using it
17:50 - Micro Center
18:28 - Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Their site crashed due to too many viewers going and taking a look. That's how you know a review is good.
It did?😂
Literally wanted to order one just now
Just checked to see if anyone else noticed. We gave it the hug of death
Searched for comment like that!)
I’m happy it’s getting more views now, was wondering when it’ll pop off
This company just got the best advertisement of their entire existence.
Yeah I'm buying this as soon as it's available in my region
@@NoviceIdiot same tbh
It is very much deserved
Companies spend more on huge advertising campaigns to make up for poor products. This company just made a really good product and let it do the talking.
The framework site was going hay wire today. I suspect this is the reason
Update: almost 2 years later they're more upgradable than ever. They now support amd 7000 and intel 13th gen motherboards to swap, and louder speakers, bigger battery upgrade, a matte screen option, and theyre dropping a 16 inch with even more customization
It aged incredibly well. As an absolute laptop hater, Framework might be my first go go.
Instant they drop a 360 degree art version I am going to buy it so fast that time goes backwards and I get disappointed because I can't buy one anymore.
I've had mine for a little more than a year now and I couldn't love it more.
@@eye-chan1711 how do you know that this hasn't happened to you already? 🤔
I want it, but its the same price as some gaming PCs....plus im from turkey
8:50 The fact that when this thing eventually becomes obsolete, you could just easily take out the motherboard and repurpose it for some other project is briliant
And with the additional BIOS options like start on ac you can even use it as a headless server once you no longer use it as a laptop, its amazing
And Linus crashed their website. I guess a lot of people find this compelling.
not the best framework after all then
I went on the website to check it out and in under 5mins of me being there the website crashed 2times
For what its worth i saw starting at 749 usd on the google search for those interested but unable to get to the website rn
Absolutely. A colleague and me are both due new notebooks at work and I could totally see us going this route (alternative would be the latest Lenovo Thinkpad T series)
Yup. They crashed the website!! Tried to check it out too!
"The dell's not even fkn thinner"
You can tell Linus is genuinely impressed with what Framework has done lol
yeah for sure, i think he knows how monumental this could be for the laptop space.
@L-dragonix I know same question
OJ? What are you doing here?
@@TonyTwo8192 showing appreciation for what could be one of the most monumental laptops within the passed several years i presume.
I didn't know Oj was here
Got mine a few days ago. It's definitely the coolest thing I've ever owned. The trackpad is not great, but I'm literally not even concerned because when a new, better one comes out I can just .. swap it! It's so cool!
i just ordered one and im wondering how long it took to get there because i cannot find anything on their website
@@theratking14 I live in the us. It came from Taiwan and took just over a week. The longest part was getting verified at customs because FedEx does not examine packages over the weekend I don't think.
@@noahbraasch7854 ah i see thank you! im so fuckin excited i saw this video awhile ago and i haven’t been able to get one until just now.
@@theratking14 haha good stuff. What config did you opt for?
@@noahbraasch7854 i got the i5-1240p, 1tb sn850 nvme and 16gb of ddr4 (i assume that is what you mean)
Framework has chassis intrusion sensors. The difference is they don't lock you out of your device, just let you (or an admin) know that your laptop was opened and, if you didn't consent to that, you should check into that.
Which is a good way to so that
Chassis intrusion sensors shouldn't brick the device until it's closed and stuff.
lets not forget about the reduced ewaste since if something breaks, you dont need to throw away the entire fking laptop and you can easily repair it yourself.
stfú bçh
*Apple has left the chat.
@@hallucy2215 You know how much my city has to pay to recycle electronics? Yeah, comes out of my taxes. I for one approve.
Not to mention the fact that it's *cheaper* to replace a module.
Yeah especially if your battery is dead you only need to replace the battery instead of the entire laptop
do they let you choose specifically what comes in the package so you don't *HAVE* to get extra parts when you buy it? if so that would reduce waste even more
"Not a ton of dynamic range" I don't know what the fuck that is but that camera goes way and beyond almost every laptop camera I've ever seen.
lmao just means doesnt cover as much of the rgb spectrum as a regular non-laptop webcam but easily the best quality ive ever seen
You can tell the difference pretty well. Linus' face is pretty pink and colors in the rest of the room too are a bit off from what you see from their main camera
@@aniruddharao8735 Yeah, that integrated webcam is total crap compared to *$80K RED cinema cameras!* If you compare the image quality to any integrated webcam in any laptop, that camera looks pretty good indeed.
@@MikkoRantalainen That was not the point I was trying to make. I was only trying to explain what the effect of having dynamic range on your camera has on the quality of video
Fucking hilarious comment. Thanks
They’ve actually started releasing motherboard replacement kits which is super awesome
My big thing (only halfway through the video so I don't know if they touched on it but) the packaging is amazing. The amount of products I order or buy off the shelf that wastes so much space. M.2 drives are insanely small yet come in boxes 3 times as wide and 4 times the thickness/depth. Those baby boxes for the interchangeable ports/drives are just great to see.
To be fair, lots of things are packaged like this to prevent theft in retail stores (and they're too lazy to change it for online sales). I remember when large flash drives used to come in nearly 8.5x11" plastic packaging so people wouldn't steal them.
Weirdly, the battery switch off is the part I found the most “I need this”
not weirdly, in terms of batterie life this feature should be on every laptop
Absolutely, I was looking for such a laptop for two months now, and suddenly, I look no more.
It would be good if this was either a button on the laptop or something you could select inside windows rather than having to go into the bios for it though!
You can take out batteries from older workstation laptops. I use a hp 8770w, take the battery out and run from the wall. Pretty awesome.
Lenovo legion has this feature. Plugged in mode not charging to save battery cycle.
Seems like Framework is on the right path
am i tripping or are there like 100 accounts with checkmark all over youtube right now
commenting on random videos i mean
@@spacecadet_01 stfu
@@amethystdene nice picture dweeb
and ur not
It is a cool idea, however I don't believe they will succeed, though hope they do. Most people just buy a laptop and don't upgrade them.
Framework is an awesome company. It's about time a company started doing this. Patiently waiting for the 15" model. Make it powerful, please.
It's here now
16 inch though
@@shellshock7043with team red 💪
My son somehow just destroyed his HP Pavilion after just 16 months of service. At the very least it needs a new trackpad, a new display and new top cover. I can't find any way to buy these parts from HP. HP does provide a bunch of TH-cam videos on disassembling and reassembling the PC but parts? No idea. The PC works fine except the trackpad and display.
It was very easy to find these parts on Framework's website and it would cost about $280 for the parts. And it's awesome that you can take the internals and make a desktop PC out of it.
I'm sold
"just 16 months"
@@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 a year and a half is not long at all. Every laptop I've used has gone strong for more than 4 years
@@_wayward_494
its not a normal amount of time, but thats not short.
@@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 in terms of what? A bag of chips? That's a long time. But for a laptop, then no
@@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 That is short lmao. I've been using mine for 3 years and I'll continue for at least 3 more.
Please let this succeed so everything is like this in the future
First reply
Yes, please. I have no use for a laptop, I like using a large desktop. But if somebody decided to make a modular smartphone, I would buy that immediately.
YES
I agree 😃
I can see Apple or another one buying them just to get rid of them.
I have seen laptop manufacturers putting 1600€ price tags on repairs for 800€ machines.
The either want you to buy new or overcharge on repair.
I want to see this company succeed. Many company that say they’re trying to be “environment friendly” this is environment and user friendly
No electronic is environmentally friendly. I love them but it's the sad truth. It definitely is a step in the right direction though. :)
@@rib_rob_personal yes, your existence is not environmentally friendly
@@fernandomel3117 I mean technically the truth... depends what you define as the "environment" though. If humans cease existing is that "good" for the environment?
@@James-le8gd exactly
@@rib_rob_personal It's environmentally friendly-er
Sooo hyped to see new (well actually old!) models of making our tech done so well. Thanks for bringing light to it, and here's hoping we start seeing our stuff as more upgradable and less disposable!
What’s so great is that even if people don’t know or don’t want to open up the laptop they can take it to a repair shop that will have no problem fixing/upgrading this laptop
The entire concept is that you learn how to open it up yourself and add or remove stuff, they provide documentation too, very cool stuff.
Exactly. The ports options will be what sells this to the general public.
I hope this product & this company lives up to what they're trying to do and is able to produce many more amazing, like minded products.
Preferably with a trackpoint 😈
hey louis
this was honestly, new standard.
Nothing can ever replace the TrackPoint for its devout users!
Trackpoint the implement must ....
And ryzen plz
I completely agree. This is such a well made product and it gives me hope for the future. Also thank you for everything you do in that space as well.
Don't know a stronger endorsement than Linus buying the product halfway through the review
Yes i Hope he is gonna use it as a daily driver and then tell us about his experience
@Exempt 1 this wasn't a paid review though...
If he really likes it it will be hilarious to see he now comparing it to every future laptop we see
@Exempt 1 You have to say if you're being paid to endorse something on TH-cam
@Exempt 1 Linus may slightly mislead people, possibly even intentionally. But he would never outright lie to you for no real reason, especially not for something trivial like a little bit happier sponsor. It's just.. not him
This company is great, there are other startups that offer linux such as tuxedo too. But we need those 2 in 1 laptops to become available from someone other than the big laptop companies.
the only problem is that they are probably going to go bankrupt once they get fully built up because they aren't going to put out new product's once third parties start making modules
@@TheTallOne890I don't think they will go bankrupt. People seem genuinely interested in their laptops, and even if Framework does go bankrupt, the community will still be able to pick up where they left off.
The modular I/O ports are such a great idea. Everyone uses their laptop differently and they will be able to customise it to fit their exact needs.
I love how they literally went "fine I'll do it myself"
Girlfriend's dad: "what's that square in your wallet, son?"
Me: My steam library sir
lmao!!!!!!!!!
Then
Girlfriend's dad: "So, when r u gonna marry my daughter"
Good one :D
Rofl
Girlfriend's dad: "Welcome to the family!"
Got a framework myself too. It broke shortly after getting it, but it was easy to fix and I love it. Thanks for covering this laptop and company.
For the first half of your comment I thought you were going to shit on the company ngl😅
@@yomamasohot6411 same
@@yomamasohot6411 got us in the first half ngl
I found this video around 6 months ago.
Today, I got the shipping confirmation E-Mail after having bought it the second it came out in my country.
I am INCREDIBLY hyped for it's arrival!
Customizing where you want the ports is pretty sweet!
Hello sir!!
Hi sir, agree
Best part man
It's pog
Great. But does it come without the windows preinstallation.
Holy crap, never wanted to buy a laptop on principle before.
I bought a PineBookPro and half the reason was on principle
100% same, the concept and the ethos behind it alone makes it worth the purchase.
So expensive though:(
I am completely sold on Framework's laptops. Also for the high end specs I'm looking for its way cheaper than I ever thought. Going for roughly the same specs of other laptops Ive been looking for, its way cheaper, and upgradable too! As a tech enthusiast, I do think upgradable laptops are a must have, and if I'm honest, Ive been looking for a while.
Yeah I did the same thing as you, I compared prices and when compared to things like dell or lenovo.... the price is near identical. Of course it's not as cheap as the "cheap brands" that use worse parts, but what do you expect? I ordered one immediately.
I've got one of these. It's a fantastic laptop, works OOTB with Linux, and the fact that I can get upgrades for an already awesome lappie going forward is amazing.
Incidentally, it _does_ have intrusion detection, but as the first user, I have full control of it.
Also, my first support purchase after buying it was a second power brick - it also charges my phone super-fast, and getting a good high-wattage USB-C charger is hard.
How does the intrusion detection work? Just a switch?
Remember kids: anything is possible, the manufacturers just don't give a damn about what you want
Well, they do, just so long that what you want is the same as what everyone else wants.
@@averagejoe9040 👆
"fuck it, i'll do it myself" future millionare probably
yup and this is an actual alternate product built in the same dimension....
@@RandmAnimal i freaking hope so
This is what happens when you have engineers do what they do best without interference from like a marketing team or bosses that want to cut corners and save money.
Guys, we need you all to stop working on improving details... Management wants you to jumble the pins on all these connectors.
@@terrylyn Not just engineers but I know what you mean with that. People that know their business. Me as an tool mechanic I get often to feel how unwanted a professional awnser is. Most people who decide over the money and time of a firm that is a little bigger do not have a clue about the works that is done. Too much other stuff like marketing, management and connection build up come in the way of the product. Sure these are as well important but not on a level that the main product looses quality. But the thing is people like to stand high in the rank. So saving money and time is a loved way to "rank up". The smaller workers have to compensate this. With more understanding and knowledge on the upper levels of many companies you could get way more effective and have more quality. But its a complicated structure...
honestly fuck empty suits. spaceX, tesla, starlink are what happens when the engineers run the company.
@@oldfrend that's not exactly good example (tesla is repair hostile) more like skylon (air breathing rockets with "precooler"), koenigsegg
@@oldfrend Don't forget AMD, Dr. Lisa Su is literally world's top electrical engineer
I received my framework laptop some weeks ago. (I'm french) I was expecting a good device, but I am pleasantly surprised, it is more powerfull that expected. I have got a desktop pc with a good CPU and GPU for 3 or 4 years.
In the CPU intensive tasks, like video editing and such, the framework is better and quicker at exporting those videos. Obviously the framework gets hotter (85°c approx.) and my desktop pc doesn’t overcome 60°c with a noctua air cooler.
The lack of GPU makes it less performing in games and real time 3d work, but not as much as I thought. Even in big games, if I drop down the resolution and set the graphic parameters as « low » it work quite well.
The screen, keyboard and trackpad are really great, the sound is OK not super powerfull but good. I have a macbook pro for my work and I have ever found the keyboard to be annoying to use. The trackpad is also quite « sticky », fingers don’t slide easily on the surface, the framework is way more enjoyable to use for me.
The small form factor is so cool, even more with this tiny power supply.
I think that it is a great device, with evolution and personalisation in mind at is core, and I hope that framework will continue on the long run, I am really happy to have get one !
Bought mine today for school thanks to Linus' review! This company and how they're trying to do this warms my heart and I wanna see them succeed!
The fact that we are surprised by a company that makes a product with the consumer as first priority in mind should be a reality check.
A first priority is never what I expected, personally. I'd like for their first priority to be them keeping their doors open, if they have a great product I'd like to be able to continue to purchase. Second priority, I would settle for.
Not: keeping the doors open>making the CEO rich as tits> making investors richer than tits>making sure the stuff breaks > making sure they make more money once stuff breaks> the garden in front of their main office staying beautiful>did we forget anything?> Oh yeah, the customer.. I guess he can be satisfied with whatever is left.
Oh, there's nothing left?
Do we have any pens or something we can send them?
No...
Well, we need better marketing I think then...
Let's just plug that in somewhere between stuff breaking and the garden, I think.
Amen brother.
@@danielnelson4881 lol, amen to that.
It's a shame what's out there.
I have an old Dell Latitude from like 2007 that still serves as a backup workhorse laptop, and it's just so amazing. Great for basic internet, videos, movies, music, office stuff, etc. Hell, it even runs many games from the PS3-era pretty well with its dedicated Nvidia GPU.
Literally everything is replaceable: battery, RAM, wifi module, extra HDD slot, optical drive...even the Core2Duo CPU is ported and upgradeable.
It was definitely designed to be used for a long time.
And that's why it's still serving strong in 2021 despite being built in 2007, haha. I know that I sure as heck don't expect my little Asus ultrabook to still be kicking in the year 2035, lol.
At best, someday the battery will probably bloat and crack the touchpad.
And I really love the Asus laptop, for what it is, but it's completely un-upgradeable: can't even take it past its stock 8GB of RAM.
I hate all of the waste. It's so unnecessary.
@@Bran_Flakesx7 As opposed to what? Autistic awakenings, like the one you did this morning?
What's that even supposed to mean... We were just talking about crap companies... Then you have to go throw out the word "normies" in a condescending way... That's not what that word is for, it's to be used in a lighthearted almost self deprecating way as though you and your peers aren't normal, you're odd... Not in a condescending, you're so normal and I'm oh so special kind of a way...
"Oh it's so cute when non special people finally realize stuff that I knew all along because I'm special..." - What you sounded like to me...
*barf*
I know you weren't talking to any of us probably but it still sounded gross..
Agreed
It's been 3 hours and their website is still bogged down by too many visitors. We are giving them the hug of death!
@@Chris-rg6nm Then they will spend the money on the things that matter. What do you like more? a posh website or a good product?
@@Chris-rg6nm the traffic probably just went up by 1000%+ with all the videos now coming out...
looks like they need a better FRAMEWORK for their web server.
Took about 1000 tries, but I got my confirmation email.
@@Chris-rg6nm Even the most scalable server will not be able to handle traffic up in the thousands of percent in half a day, let alone an hour. This is not frame.work faults lol
I just saw this, and I am in love with this product, it is simply amazing how this company was so unknown to me until today that I'm even ashamed to call myself a PC enthusiast.
Got my framework last week and have been very happy with it
Linus giving a good review on a new technology with little to no downsides:
The website: God have mercy
There is no mercy!!!!!!
Yep, error 500
I recently disassembled an old Asus laptop and moved it out of the case, I had to tape over 3 freaking sensors for it to even POST in its new enclosure.
This is getting me hyped. Please revisit framework upgrades in future videos. Would love to hear more about theyr next products.
Wow, this is the coolest product i've seen in years! The fact that you can literally customize ANYTHING on it while keeping the setup slim and compact is just amazing. 10/10 points for this one!
Finally, a manufacturer that ACTUALLY seems to care about the environment, instead of just saying that they do.
That depends on their longevity. If they are still here in the next five years or more, they'll be able to make a considerable difference since that will be when people will start needing CPU/GPU upgrades and purchase a new MOBO, rather than throwing away the whole laptop. By that point, they (hopefully) will have increased their variety of modules and internal combinations available, as well, further decreasing whole units being discarded.
But if they fizzle out in the next year, 2, or 3, they would've just created a modular design with no module to be found, and upgradeable motherboards with no one to design the future chipsets. I know they're making a lot of their designs public, but if they end up collapsing so soon, they wouldn't have attracted enough people to possibly crowd-source parts and upgrades. Plus, future designs might be such a far departure from present ones that they might be forced to launch designs incompatible with the one they're launching now.
With all that said, though, I hope they will find success. I certainly intend on buying one as soon as the traffic dies down since people are literally hugging the site to death.
They're preparing just incase right of repair got passed
*coughrazercough*
@@advanceringnewholder Right of repair will boost their confidence to the moon
@@muhammadirfanataulawal7630 GOOD!!
"I personally would love to see a touch option."
Just imagine. They come out with the touch option. And you can just... swap it in to the laptop you already have. Because they're not assholes.
that's just beautiful
That would be a bit complicated, because they built it in mind without the touch capabilities, i assume. So in this case they would need to have a separate connector for the touch or have pinout for the touch already built in to the display cable connector. Unless they already have had touch capabilities in mind, that’s very likely not possiblle.
@@niko1even as he mentions in the video, the motherboard already has touch support built in, so the connectors and pins are already there. It really would be as simple as just popping in a compatible touchscreen, it seems.
@@shehranazim4784 oh sweet. I wouldn’t say “popping in”, because the process is a bit longer than that, but yeah. That’s nice
@@niko1even relative to a lot of other modern laptops, this is as close to popping in we'll be able to get!
My Acer from 2014 is super easy to upgrade both the hard drive and RAM. It's a real bummer I can't upgrade the cpu. I'd be the happiest man alive if I could put a faster cpu in it.
If you started with 64GB of RAM, then you can't upgrade it more when the OS starts to become slow. If you started with 32GB, then there would be a noticeable difference in performance after making the upgrade. That's because you not used to the architecture.
This laptop is a must buy for me - everything flexed here is just worth spending my cash for. Hopefully this company succeeds and expands its components to allow for touch screen displays, and mobile GPUs like the 3050 Ti
I can't believe the amount of care that went into this. EVERY little thing that people usually forget about after the initial inconvenience are considered
Imagine how amazing it would be if they made a capture card attachment.
I can't believe u copied poketips
@@Nanoshock840 I can't believe it either because it literally never happened
@@EmeraldSpencer tbh you could probably make one yourself with a 3d printer and a male usb c connector if you wanted to
Okay, so now we have evidence here that you can, in fact, type without going all-caps on most of the words. This is something new.
When engineers design a laptop instead of the marketing department.
Trueeeee
Lol
spot on!
Dammmmmmmmmmmmn
Shots fired
Love this, took a look at their website, out of my price range at present. But this is one to remember. Great video.
I'm very excited about this. This has a very high chance of being my next laptop. I have an 00's ThinkPad and the reason I have it is repairability. When that kicks the bucket this is going to be VERY high on my list to consider.
Alex going "Cry me a river" sounded so genuine, ofcourse, understandable
Him and linus have known each other so long dunking on each other becomes natural.
@@Sabrina0s a
just saw in Tom's video. good taste
Time stamp?
@@PriscentSnow - 7:48 includes the relevant context before.
Framework literally said "f*ck your proprietary bullsh*t" .This is the future now
đúng bạn
This is how it always should have been.
Future what? Removable IO? Alot of you dont know shits.
@@jonmon5745 you'll know if you learn.
@@MVAS-mp9oo if fully upgreable was real then why is it the modular parts are only usb and hdmi (IO)? Alot of you are so confused about this fail laptop:
Pros: 1. easily removable module usb a, hdmi, usb c, sd card
2. Easily removable battery and screen (But all windows laptop can be remove)
3. Replaceable front screen frame.
Cons:
1. Expensive 1000$!for base model
2. Expensive Up to 2000$ for 512 ssd and higher cpu.
3. Did not even mention any rtx card at all 3 models.
4. Current gen ddr4 slot and current gen pcie 4 slot are not modular as well as cpu and gpu in short if you upgrade the motherboard it will cost alot since it is pretty much the laptop itself.
5. They dont make their own chip, so all future motherboard with new cpu,gpu, next gen ddr5 slot, next gen pcie 5.0 will probably cost almost at the same price of a traditional laptop.
6. If for example you bought a new motherboard, you are stuck with worn lcd, worn keyboard, old gen ssd card, old gen ram, worn charger and worn or full of scratch laptop frames. For the price almost the same as the new laptop with everything new.
7. Not to mention the terrible cooling system design of laptop is terrible. Look at all the upcoming gaming laptop, they are way better than this.
8. In conclusion this laptop is not future proof, having a module IO will not compensate for the lack of fully upgradeable next gen hardware such as gen 5 pcie and gen 5 ram.
I would consider this if it had one or two more expansion slots and a dGPU, hope they come out with something like that soon
Well, look what we have now!
this is soo sickkk!!! currently in the market for a laptop so as soon as im able to im likely grabbing one of these
When engineers get the final say in product development...
And it is clear that they love their work. If your employees love to work at your company (not because you tell them to, but because they love what the company is doing and the environment is awesome), they make amazing products with love and care.
That would be a dream if the concept spread, as a Dev I have to wait until every arbitrary condition of the marketing, and design teams get satisfied to build a product. Then have to fight to put in features that matter, and fight to keep out features that ruin the experience. I show analytical data displaying why something is a bad idea, then have to fight about someones feelings. Then you step back and say jeez I am the only one here who can build this; how are my ideas the bottom of the barrel. I am about to apply for a job with Framework.
@@tbfromsd I feel your pain
@@tbfromsd As a Automotive Engineer that is the one that actually builds the damn things I feel you on a spiritually level. I have been in near fist fights with paper engineers, bean counters, and marketing teams over a poorly thought out design that would cost more money over the live of the project than they'll make in the short term. But in the modern day it's not about long term investments but short term profits on a spread sheet. I left that side of the automotive world 15 years ago and haven't looked bakc.
@@tbfromsd I feel you man.
This laptop ACTUALLY feels futuristic isteady of "older modular technology"
True
U mean instead?
if fully upgreable was real then why is it the modular parts are only usb and hdmi (IO)? Alot of you are so confused about this fail laptop:
Pros: 1. easily removable module usb a, hdmi, usb c, sd card
2. Easily removable battery and screen (But all windows laptop can be remove)
3. Replaceable front screen frame.
Cons:
1. Expensive 1000$!for base model
2. Expensive Up to 2000$ for 512 ssd and higher cpu.
3. Did not even mention any rtx card at all 3 models.
4. Current gen ddr4 slot and current gen pcie 4 slot are not modular as well as cpu and gpu in short if you upgrade the motherboard it will cost alot since it is pretty much the laptop itself.
5. They dont make their own chip, so all future motherboard with new cpu,gpu, next gen ddr5 slot, next gen pcie 5.0 will probably cost almost at the same price of a traditional laptop.
6. If for example you bought a new motherboard, you are stuck with worn lcd, worn keyboard, old gen ssd card, old gen ram, worn charger and worn or full of scratch laptop frames. For the price almost the same as the new laptop with everything new.
7. Not to mention the terrible cooling system design of laptop is terrible. Look at all the upcoming gaming laptop, they are way better than this.
8. In conclusion this laptop is not future proof, having a module IO will not compensate for the lack of fully upgradeable next gen hardware such as gen 5 pcie and gen 5 ram.
@@jonmon5745 Thanks for your comment, $0.016 has been deposited into your account.
Regards,
-the Apple-Dell coalition
@@jonmon5745 your comparison to a gaming laptop for cooling is stupid. This is a thin and light. Compare it to thin and lights.
Everything else you’ve pointed out is literally true of ALL laptops so they’re utterly redundant points to make. The exception being apple making their own chips… which doesn’t matter because they can’t be replaced either.
I was just describing something very similar to this to a friend that I've said I've always wanted something like this for years, and I had no idea it was real. Please let this become the standard for laptops and phones. This is perfect
I just ordered one and I'm real excited. Looks like a super promising replacement for my old laptop and a fun project at the same time
Finally laptop that is not anti-repair, anti-consumer and environmentally unfriendly. Just like Linus; I'm sold.
ok buy me one pls
This would be a very cool productive laptop. Most people will still buy an Air though.
Aaaand the website is down. Thanks Linus
Ima buy this. When they start selling in india
@@ragsrama Yeah this think is awesome I Hope the Concept is gonna blow up so everybody does it
@Sergio Marc I mean... Thunderbolt egpu or cloud gaming services combined with some low expectations could theoretically turn it into a gaming machine. Key word being theoretically.
Looks like we hugged their site to death. Damn though, this thing looks like EXACTLY what I've been wanting for like 10 years. As soon as it's available to me in the UK I'm grabbing one, and likely recommending it to anyone who'll listen
Some redditor said the same thing yesterday: death by snu-snu
As an Aussie; I'm really wanting one to service as a portable workstation (especially if they have a touchscreen+stylus option in the future) where I can do some light gaming in bed or in town and make some art whilst on the move, so I can retire my mid-2010 Macbook hopefully and don't have to be tied to my monster desktop rig just to art and game.
@@ElNeroDiablo a 2 in 1 laptop that can game is sure going to be super heavy
BTW you should check out Spectre
@@ElNeroDiablo mid 2010 core 2 duo macbook white by any chance? That's still my every day laptop hahah
@@ddc171 I'm not looking for CP2077 1440p120 Ultra, Odin forbid, but something that can handle 1080p60 Medium Minecraft, World of WarCrack/Diablo III (Blizzard has owned my soul since 1996) and maybe some Trouble in Terrorist Town (GMod) along with emulators and PS Remote Play would be nice when I'm not at my powerful desktop.
I purchased this a week ago, I configured it myself with all the parts I want with it before the order. And it arrived in 5 in day. Happy with this laptop, never-ever would want any other laptop, it was love at first sight .
Hi Linus!!! a Long term review would be nice for this laptotp as sometimes modularity doesn't mean longevity
thank's again for the heads up definitely keeping their website on my favourite!!
Btw he posted one (kinda)
"The Dell's not even fucking thinner"
I died lmao
Me too
You died? Then, typing post-facto is quite the feat.
@@unlokia you must be great at parties.
I love how Linus handles the hardware he’s reviewing. It’s like 60% tech review and 40% durability testing.
And only 1 drop but wholesome. :-)
its good though if he breaks it what will someone whos not techey do to it
I mean, if my expensive laptop that dies from a 90 cm fall
this made me laugh so much, you just made my day!
Had us in the first half ngl😂
So My birthday I was sick and I decided to binge youtube, then I finally watch this video after it sitting in my recommended for weeks, and I find I can afford this for myself and that theres is a "build it yourself" model meaning I can also do my favorite hobby at the same time as having an insane upgrade over my macbook pro from 2009 that I've been using for 5 years. Thank You Linus, This is the best birthday gift ever!
OMG, THANK YOU! My wife does medical transcription and I have been lost in what to get her to replace her old laptops! This is absolutely perfect!
Linus during the review: "I'm sold, gonna order one right now"
Stock: *SOLD OUT*
Website: *CRASHED*
same XD
im happy
Already happening. I haven't been able to make it through a build your own order.
Human DDOS FTW
@@VenomKen im broke and still waiting for then to release these in black and with cool gpu’s, but the concept is fucking wonderful
when a pool of talent meets pure, uncompromised engineering.
That's the dream isn't it? Engineering first companies all start out this way, but don't last long as inevitably marketing and sales gets involved as more often than not these companies aren't sustainable and it's all downhill from there. They justify it with the massive increases in sales and inevitably learn "the masses" actually don't give a shit. All they care about is value/price. It's entirely possible to make a company like this sustainable, but to my knowledge it's never been successfully done in the electronics industry. Look up the video, "Why Enthusiast Brands will Betray You".
I've had two issues: first, holding it up at odd angles compresses the chassis in a way that presses the buttons on the mousepad.
Second, the included charging cable is trash. I had to replace it after about 4 to 6 months of use (I picked up a 10 ft. Braided usb c to c cable instead of rebuying).
Others, as a college student who mostly uses their laptop to take notes and occasionally play Factorio (for very long sessions), it's great.
My current laptop is like a Volvo, it just won’t die. But when it does, I will be happy, because I can buy one of these
Having tech being complimented by linus is the tech equivalent to Gordon Ramsey complimenting your food.
Facts tbh, Linus ordering it asap is the same as Gordon Asking for more than seconds for there good ass food. lol
Didn't they shilled raycons once ?
@@llkurofoxll1013 there's a difference in saying something is good in a sponsorship to saying it in a review that I doubt they're being paid to do.
Or the lockpicking lawyer on security solutions and locks
That's more like Steve from gamers nexus
Linus: releases a video
Framework: Aaaand you crashed our website
I know right. I want to "configure my laptop" but can't!!! Help!!!
@@pwnzya so I'm not the only one 😂
I tried to see if I could get one too XD
Unintentional DDoS attack lol
Lmao yup having the same issue
I love what they're trying to do. Hopefully by next year they come out with options for a solid 17" gaming laptop, I'd throw down on that for an upgrade. (I cross the pond too much to rely on a desktop)
If desktops become a bigger hurdle to get, this just might take the cake as an alternative.
Your excitement for this is completely contagious.
Ok those QR codes on each internal component really impressed me.
I cant but only imagine that one might be a Rick roll
@@soapy4607 if it did, I wouldn't even be mad, that'd be amazing
Anyone seeing the "We're sorry, but something went wrong" after clicking on the "Configure Now" on the DYI Edition?
I'd love to support this company.
Yup. I JUST clicked on their website link now and tried to configure a DIY laptop and got that same screen lmao
change your region to your nation, not the us
Same. I think they got the LTT hug of death?
Seems like their site is under heavy load. Good thing, people want to buy one.
Am also seeing it too
This reminds me of Project Ara from Google, and I love the concept. Also, about the magnetic charging port comments, I wonder if the menagerie of magnetic cables on amazon would function just fine with this as a charging cable...
im happy these companies finally did a colab, i love this laptop
Oof, that moment when Linus crashes the website of the company.
I was just clicking through the configuration, wondering why it's so slow and now there's just "Framework is undergoing maintenance right now"
Sure shows how much people are pissed about shitty laptops.
lmao, I was wondering why it wouldn't load
Yeah, same issue :P
I thought it was my internet LoL
Did someone see what was the starting price
“The dells not even fucking thinner”-Linus
That seals the deal of Framework getting a "Better Than Dell" award!
*“The dell's not even fucking thinner” -Linus
No discrete gpu. However i still love framework’s proposal
@@corlaez eh. I am fine with integrated gpu. I would argue that those are better for laptops anyway. Even for gaming! Why? Because you might want to play longer than 15 minutes.
When new board becomes available with discrete GPU.. you don't need to buy a whole new laptop, just switch out the board and keep rocking
We need more technology like this well done linus!
I like the camera shutter and microphone switch
I love when he said "I wanna invest". I don't think you could get better praise
Facts
Unless he already did !?!?! ...
@@Goosetube12345 The Linus we know through the videos probably would but idk if actual Linus would
Framework: We are releasing an amazing modular laptop.
Linus: I’m about to destroy this whole company’s website.
But In a good way
Bahaha I came her looking for this...
Give them a bit of time. I couldn't find a way to order on their website.
Good this needs to be the norm!
LTT fans:
We'll take your entire stock!
I hope they do a 17"+ modular gaming laptop with all the bells and whistles.
I like the review and concept behind the framework laptop. Can you do a review on how this laptop handles video editing as well as other tasks, as I’m looking for a new laptop?
This is literally the FIRST time that I WANT to buy a product after watching a review. Amazing and honest review by Linus for an awesome and well designed product
This is the first time I’d invest in a product I’ve seen here.
@@philiplubduck6107 yeah no kidding. I'd love to see them able to replace the Mobo as well so you can stay up to date with that too! Maybe have have compatibility with external GPU for casual gamers! I think toughbook did that a while back with an actual gpu shield. Either way, I'd buy!
MEEE TOOO
@@briangastineau_8887 It says on their website that you can replace the mobo for upgrade.
@@briangastineau_8887 it supports eGPU's.
This might be the most excited I've ever been about a laptop, that is so fucking cool
Funny that a company that managed to think of almost everything failed at website load.
@@andri3012 same hahaha
Same, except the F word
@@andri3012 I don't think they have the laptops, only preorder. I assume that some of the pages don't work because they are not set up since they are not ready to sell yet.
this plus what Valve is currently doing means we might be in the beginning of a new age of hardware
Love how you show the Fairphone website right during that intro line. :P
Found out about the framework Laptop though "The Gadget Show" and seriously looking over this Video, there is so much it can offer.. though I heard you say touchscreen.. what about 360 angle as well and as for the expansion ports, do you think they could easily add another two either side to make it 4 instead of 2.. or in another model shrink the ports to have 8 ports on each side?... that could have ENDLESS possibilities.. love love love this!!
Guys we need to make this the most successful laptop ever
U got my votes bro. And when i get a job,i will definitely buy this.
@@wordpressrar3252 Not sure it will still be relevant in 2035.
if only it would be Ryzen
@@tommyinthe8ir They're a startup. It makes sense to concentrate on one configuration to start, and they likely had to choose something where they could be certain they would be able to get parts. Tiger Lake will be fine for most mainstream users.
@ The biggest problem I see with this though is that their main customers won't be mainstream consumees. Their main customers would be people looking for easily repairable and upgradable laptops, i.e. gamers or the more tech savvy. And failing to have higher end processors makes that much more difficult.
great idea and kudos to Framework team!
I find this revolutionary. Ability to choose what ports you need on a laptop is supreme
This is definitely gonna blow up, it has everything we need and wanted our whole lives, Linus reviewed it, they have a simple URL for a website...And the website is under-maintenance already because of Linus.
@ClassicMan Just gonna call this comment as an r/agedlikemilk
@Clasic Man
Except this is a laptop, and you could use Linux with Proton...Meanwhile you have the FULL customizable laptop.
@Clasic Man I hope not. I don't know how did that project die with google, so I'm only making assumptions. But a reason could be that the company realized that there was more money to make in selling full phones, so they discontinued it.
"wanted our whole lives" speak for yourself. It doesn't have RGB keyboard that i wanted.
@Clasic Man IIRC, that project killed itself by launching with low-end hardware. The enthusiasts they were marketing to usually want high-end.
It's sad when treating your customers with respect, giving them what they want, and not lying to them is shocking and not the norm.
@SOUL SEEKER yeah I remember when OnePlus was still a value brand
@@pannedandcanned It still is, depending on who you ask. Imo OnePlus now is better than it was 4 years ago (saying this as a OnePlus 6 owner).
@@Mr_Trump 2 of my cousins owned OnePlus 7 Pro and OnePlus 7 (7 Pro owner sold his, 7 owner uses it to this day) and to be honest, I'm kinda disappointed on what OnePlus is now. From being an out-of-norm company that we consumers can look up to, it isn't like that. It's present state feels more like Oppo
@@pannedandcanned Value is relative.
It's NOT tied to the cheapest price or the most bang for the buck.
OnePlus knew what they were doing. They're very smart from a business perspective. Start off cheap with flagship specs, build a following, and then slowly increase the price year after year.
@@sayeedalsifat1308 OnePlus knew what they were doing. They're very smart from a business perspective. Start off cheap with flagship specs, build a following, and then slowly increase the price year after year.
16:20 I never knew that laptop batteries swelled when constantly plugged in.
This thing looks awesome! Would love to have one!
It's the nature of batteries themselves , doesn't only really apply to laptops. It expands due to the heat.
@@GamerBoy705_yt right! Thanks for the advice
That’s awesome, hopefully this succeeds and doesn’t flop I’d 100% get one.
When this configurable laptop is better than HP’s flagship non-repairable laptop
Thank you, even the TPM modules are being scalped.
I am going to render a modified version of You!
Your profile pic really hit me now how awful the Windows 11 logo is...
@@theborgqueen6891 lol. You think you can beat him "BiGsUr"
I use Arch btw
*felxing Linus Torvalds laughter