@@Dagger722didn’t miles had a huge advantage because of the bell if the fight carried on Peter would’ve won mile was extremely lucky that Peter didn’t kill him cause with the power he had at the time he wouldn’t be able to hold a candle to Peter
@@TheGamingRift11They broke Peter's 14 bones. Peter doesn't even break anyone's one implies they were holding back but not much nearly even close as Peter does. Scorpion stabbed in his spine. Rhino regularly was punching and kicking him along with Vulture and Mr Negative. Then Electro took his chance. Peter screamed in pain then hearing him, Ock arrived. He grabbed Peter's hand with force and threw him. It doesn't seem so much holding back.
@@hitendhir9700Spiderman could one shot all of them if he didnt hold back its a fact even in comics like when he rippd Kravens Wifes face off with one singel touch
@@TheGamingRift11hate to be the ERM AKTUALLY guy but it is stated in canon that peter always holds back when facing his villains We see this when Doc Ock took control of Peter's body and was surprised he took scorpion's chin off and we definitely see this in the countless of timelines where Peter completely lost it
@@afiqzul-star8768 What are you yapping about, Everyone already knows this, Besides it's still not even relevant to what anyone said, Peter Still loses to the sinister six, Rhino alone CAN give Peter at minimum a high diff fight, Add five other people, two of which can also give Peter a high diff fight, He's not winning this
@@TheGamingRift11, part of your argument was that the villains were holding back. He turned it around because Spider-Man often holds back. So, you said it.
@@TheGamingRift11 Imagine calling it a fallacy when he can break bones if he wanted to especially how the symbiote doesn't allow Spider-Man to hold back and if you ever played Spider-Man 2 game then you know that Venom would have killed and torn apart all of the sinister six even if it was venom against six of them at once
But Peter was still able to take Two Members at once and then had a 1v1 with Mr. negative and Octavius and in those moments they were all intending to kill him I still give peter some credit because he wasn’t fighting them all one at a time and plus he was injured with multiple broken bones.
@@benjaminhager6285 Yeah but he still held his own against them before he was stabbed by scorpion’s tail which was only because he got caught off guard and it wasn’t really a fair fight for him since there wasn’t enough room to fight on that rooftop
@@Thebestleaderinfiction For 10 seconds, he held his own for 10 seconds, a minute at max. Yes all the odds stacked against him, but he doesn't brute force fights with the sinister six, that's how he loses
Let me just justify this, he was physically unable to do it due to the foundation, it was such a small location so he was unable to fight against them since if he tried to focus on one the other can take him due to the small distance between him and Peter, also remember Peter always holds back.
@@AndyTinajero so you enjoy pointing out the obvious? 🤔 Also love the immature “piss in cereal” comment. I’d have preferred a constructive comment but thanks for boosting the short anyways
lol once doc ock was in spideys body and knocked the scorpions jaw clean off on accident because he didn’t realize how much Peter was holding so your argument is completely disproven
@@TheGamingRift11 so that same Spider-Man who can straight up punch a hole through kingpins chest is gonna lose to these guys the whole time he was still making jokes
I usee to be the biggest Spider-Man fan in the omniverse, ain't no y'all loony toon even come close to my level and now I hate the character and don't want to be associated with a guy who shares his wife. As much as I'm against spider, I'm glad there are people in this comment section putting you in your place. Sinister six weren't holding back against Spider-Man, they just weren't. They fought Spider-Man on regular basis with full power and still lose to him. Here when Martin says "remember, doc says we need him alive" he's just saying that beat him up good but not to the level where he straight up goes to heaven. Plus Spider-Man holds back 90% of his powers all the time, that's the whole shtick of the character. If he amps up even just a little bit, we would see the credits rolling after the scene with a tease of Spider-Man 2. Instead of getting angry and worked up at the comments, do a little bit of research.
“Instead of getting angry and worked up, do a little bit of research” Erm take your own advice? You can cope and deny it all you want but the six were holding back against Pete not just at the raft but at multiple points in the story And there are several instances the six could’ve killed him if they legitimately wanted him to. So nice try but it’s wrong
@@TheGamingRift11 research how the f mj is faster then peter in a fridge scene? Explain why peter has no battle iq only in second game? How the f he dont dodge lightning in sandman fight while dodging a ton in first game? How the f miles with 2 years of exp is stronger than pete with 10 and antivenom? Thats just nerfing peter so sweet babies favourites on miles and mj would look better
Sure at the beginning yeah but peter still got beaten half to death, at some point peter was taking the battle seriously if not his battle iq would be below mindless.
I'm so tired of people saying that, amd also there complaining how peter spider sence isn't working in sm2 but peter literally got hit multiple times here when "he shoudve been able go" I swear people just be operating way too much lately, they think he's some unstoppable being when he isn't 😂
The thing about it Is this is the first time Peter ever fought a 5v1 battle And let’s put into consideration Peter was on a roof surrounded and had no where to use his webs in an effective manner Everyone was holding back The fact Peter even put up a fight against 5 at the same time for a time With this being his first 1 v team battle Does indicate peter can hold his own Yet was overwhelmed due to being surrounded(something I think wouldn’t happen if he wasn’t in the roof) And mind you You can argue if Peter actually wanted to say kill some of these villains in in one punch it would be 4 of the 5 With only scorpion and rhino being the biggest threats of the 6 Due to his posion or rhinos durability Otto is kinda a weird case since Peter if he was at 100% I argue wouldn’t even need anti ock suit to beat Otto The rest he can fight and beat without much problem Since when Peter fights them again it’s implied they aren’t holding back anymore where Peter still is, while fatigued and injured during the fights afterwards It’s possible in different circumstances say in the streets of New York where Peter is at 100% and the villains are tying to kill It wouldn’t be representative of his roof fight since it was very circumstantial Like not even 616 or ultimate Spider-Man in the comics can 1v6 them his very first fight and even his second fight was hard and he couldn’t take them all at once It’s only when Peter plans things out preps or goes all out does he 1v6 and wins Trying to say insom Peter bested the 6 without issue would be wrong Yet trying to say he couldn’t beat them if the circumstance where different would be just as wrong Since this is like asking any version of Spider-Man to somehow beat their sinister 6 the during the very first encounter off rip Which is not only unrealistic But would take away the stakes of the story
I mean it’s fiction so it’s not supposed to be realistic Peter has done a bunch of feats in the comics that’s impossible for any street level hero to do and 616 peter and ultimate Peter actually have defeated the entire sinister six at the same time by themselves in the comics but not in their first encounter but they did 1v6 them in the comics when they got better with their powers and they hold back a lot just like insomniac peter does
@@Thebestleaderinfiction that’s my point We can’t say insom can or can’t beat the 6 1v6 But based on the second game and the idea peter can one shot most people at base For instance you can say he can crush vultures skull which his head is exposed Scorpion he could punch his jaw off like the comics since he is human with a suit that makes him superhuman Mr negative Peter beats even while holding back so it’s safe to say if he wanted to kill Li he could at base Elector Peter can beat and sub-do with his only real issue being if elector stops being an idiot and uses his powers properly Otto you can say Peter base can beat Otto without anti ock since Peter was injured and fatigued which is why he needed anti ock But let’s not pretend even at base while injured and fatigued one clean shot to Otto’s body and he is dead With rhino even comic Peter is terrified of yet beats him when he doesn’t hold back So who is to say insom Peter can’t beat rhino Especially when in game he had to fight scorpion and rhino at the same time People can’t act like peter didn’t fight them at the same time Even while looking at cutscenes both rhino and scorpion are down suits sparking Implying Peter did down both of them before they started fighting eachother It’s a case base Peter has shown he can beat the 6 back to back even when they go all out when Peter isn’t at 100% and holds back Meaning if he were to go all out against the 6 He properly could beat them but it wouldn’t be easy I mean people like to say kraven beat the 6 Saying base peter can’t beat kraven Kraven prepped for each member and fought them individually at a time If he didn’t prep for say scorpion and was poisoned I doubt kraven would no diff scorpion like he did It’s a case kraven makes it so he isn’t outclassed by his opponent yet will do what he can to win while they are at their best Hence his saying only an equal may kill him Like I’m of the belief if base Peter wants to he can’t beat kraven and miles It wouldn’t be easy Yet people act like Peter gets no diff by miles and Kraven Miles struggles against Mr negative who didn’t want to kill and miles was nearly bloodlusted Base peter while injured and fatigued holding back beat and arguably stronger Mr negative who was bloodlusted Kraven never actually outperforms anything base Peter or miles has done in strength or durability Him fighting black suit Spider-Man doesn’t count since Peter is established to subconsciously hold back all the time and would logically be more so in a suit that makes him stronger
I would also like to add that my boy Peter slept once in this whole entire fucking game. He did not rest for days, he didn’t really eat or drink anything. This man is long over due for one regular ass day. (If you’re taking the missions and peoples play style into consideration since it would technically be different multiverse same fucking dude)
@@ATalesTruth-Exactly 💯 and one more point Black Suit Peter still held Kraven without tendrils and matched his strength in Church and only abused it in the end when he was internally very well conflicted Implying All his feats without tendrils are his simple strength.
This isnt the first time fighting him, when you do the backpack collectibles it will jave items that contribute with peters other fights with these villains such as the rhino horn that peters says "almost killed him"
Even so his reflexed arent impacted and the only characters hed be able to one shot would be the vulture. If he had taken the battle seriously at the nothing would change as doc ock would have gotten involved and beaten peter along with rhino. You underestimate the power of the jumping
While you are right,Spider-Man also holds back as he does not want to kill anybody. I think he one time ripped kraven’s daughter’s head off with his bear hands
I mean even with his spider Sense, getting attacked by all his enemies on such a small platform, it was guaranteed they were gonna land a critical blow at some point. Had this been wide open he might have stood a chance.
Why can’t people simply understand that the point you’re making isn’t that he didn’t fight the members of the Sinister 6, but that he didn’t fight “The Sinister 6”. As in the group at the same time, come on guys this isn’t that hard to get
Everyone be forgetting Hero’s like Spider-Man and Superman be pulling their punches they never go full strength unless they know someone will survive it
That still doestn excuse peter getting hit by them, he may have been pulling his punchds but that doesnt mean he slowed himself intentionally down he had spidey sense yet stil got tapped by scorpion.
Peter holds back as well And based on we know his punches can be fatal and he managed to land some hits But tbh "spider man" always holds back even when he is losing so it's as if he never was that strong to begin with
@@TheGamingRift11He was doing better, he tagged Scorpion kicking Vulture very hard too and probably was going to stun Rhino for good if not for Vulture taking him into air.
@@TheGamingRift11If Peter used all his strength first of all Vulture will be down instantly with head butt punch or kick Electro then next would be done with 2 or 3 punches since he at least has building level durability Next is Ock, the weakest durability he just needs to get him and he did so many times in game Then Mister Negative, he is enhanced but got whooped by holding back Peter both times no diff case Now heavy hitters, Scorpion has tougher armour but Peter has better striking strength feats, and he has beaten him in past too as well in PS4 game along with Rhino Mac is probably the least skilled out of them too The most difficult would be Rhino to kill, but Peter was soloing him with broken bones he can again so by throwing a car stunning him hitting him with full force So all are down
Isn't this supposed to be basic knowledge? Why do people think Peter fought the Sinister Six here??? Also, for your next Gamingrift short, can you do this next?: Peter Parker was not against Miles and here is why.
@@TheGamingRift11I don't really understand the point you were trying to make. 1.) As many in the comment section have pointed out, peter also holds himself back because of his no-kill rule. He's always holding back. 2.) It was a 6 v 1 so yeah he's on the defensive but nevertheless he still tried his best to fight back. If he doesn't fight the sinister six... who is he fighting here?? It is very confusing man seems like clickbait tbh
@ChromaticVenom1 he only fought 5 of the 6 since doc only showed up later after peter was beaten Peter although probably held back at the start to say he maintained this statement would be unfactual as that means peter battle iq us so bad hed rather die than take a fight seriously.
@@TheGamingRift11 are you dumb? He still hoes back on him in his spectacular Spider-Man with the black suit on Peter as a high school learn.😂😂😂 he absolutely destroyed them and this is a battle test Spider-Man
I mean this version of Spider-Man was always gonna lose but considering that Scorpion and Rhino are stated to be physically stronger than spidey outright and the fact that Peter was forced to fight bigger guys in a small space, unlucky. I reckon Parker would've faired better with more room to divide and conquer till either Electro or Vulture dragged him back to the rest of the group to be overwhelmed and incapacitated.
Scorpion everytime was getting his ass kicked to him by Peter, Peter is stronger than Scorpion but Scorpion is tougher due to armour and heavy which have no impact of bullets. Rhino is outright stronger than Spider-Man Scorpion has no lifting and striking feats better than Peter.
If he wasnt holding back by the time Ock is there half of them are gone😂😂 Ik he holds back to save ppl even his villains but liek 5 of them at the same time it's obvious he's gonna die
He still got low diffed even if he was holding back it goes to show he has negative iq if he was willing to die than go full out. And even if he was pulling his punches that doesnt explain how scorpion off guarded him when he has spidey sense.
Not the rhino, he definitely could have taken out martin and the vulture though but even when he wasnt taking the fight seriously at the beginning he still ended up on the floor getting his back blown out by electro
Peter at the point in time would've never won if the sinister six were together, even in the actual boss fights against the group they were all split in duos. Electro+Vulture Rhino+Scorpion Mr. Negative+Doc Ock Peter never fights the full six at once, I do think in 2 Peter with the symbiote/Anti Venom he could very possibly beat the six. As Kraven shows how he can no diff Scorpion who's arguably one of the strongest members since he consistently gives both spider-men trouble along with able to handle a beating in an enclosed area from the Rhino. Especially when most main villains in 2 are portrayed as greater threats than the six which is only logical for any storytelling that later villains >> previous villains. People overhype Peter's fights against the six as if he 1v6 them. He was still impressive but not to the extent people pretend it is in comparison to the second game.
Yes, it was impressive but I actually think like Spectacular Spider-Man, if he would fight Sinister Six in the city with more space and holding back very less even agreed to injure him no matter what. He would have a chance to win.
In the comics, the first time the sinister six formed, Doctor Octopus had each villain try to take Spider-man one on one so he he's too tired to fight the last one (him) and Vulture says "why can't we just attack him all at once" to which doc ock says "nah, that's stupid". And sure enough, after they are in jail spider-man says "you know, if you guys were smart and jumped me all at once, I might have been in some trouble. But thanks for the workout"
Respectfully I disagree, peter 100% put up a fight against them even if it was short. Saying it wasn't a fight at all is definitely weird, but regardless as shown in the game he got bodied fighting all of them and proceeded to get his lick back so it is what it is
Exactly he lost because the number of villains he was facing and scorpion was just the lucky one to get the cheap shot. Peter although wasnt punching at his maximum here he was still using his full power to dodge and even with spidey sense he couldn't dodge scorpion hit. Scorpion wasnt even the strongest here as well, with both electro and rhino being above him. And dont forget he only thought 5 villains at the same time as otto wasnt involved till the very end where he was already taken out. All of these villain's are alot closer to peter compared to the comics so not being able to take out all 5 isnt an anti feat hes just getting jumped
Miles with 2 years of exp is stronger than pete with 10 and antivenom suit against venom. Mj reacts to venom attack that pete didnt, he in black suit not having control couldnt kill her. When venom minions took over the sity mj oneshots them with her pistol while spiders have to use 10+hits. And peter acts like an idiot in a lot of combat scenatious
I don’t see how they were holding back they were going tuff on him yea sure they weren’t going to kill him but they were probably using all their strength to knock him out
Honestly. He was holding back too still, which is kinda weird. But I'm convinced if Peter wasn't holding back he would've destroyed them. Like he did in Marvel Zombies, although he did just bite them and it's not even the same version so yuh. But honestly I dont think he could beat them, they had great coordination and it wasn't even fair. But symbiote/anti venom would body them all imo
Insomniac peter not holding back would decimate them he doesn’t need anti venom to destroy them and it doesn’t matter if it was zombie Peter that killed them regular Peter can do that easily he has way better feats and scales higher
So it’s an irrelevant point 🤷♂️ What is relevant however is that for the first time that we know of, the villains didn’t want Pete dead yet they still humbled him 🤷♂️
I’m so fucking sick of people acting like Peter is One Punch Man. The only time people actually provide evidence for this is either when Superior Spider-Man knocked Scorpion’s jaw off, which that is a completely different Spider-Man and he didn’t kill him, and when he beat the shit out of Kingpin, which is also a different Spider-Man and Kingpin had no armour. To say that he can kill anyone with one punch because of examples that don’t apply to any Spider-Man and don’t apply to foes with armour is exhausting to see all the time
Facts, people act like he hasn't struggled in the first game.
He still a good person that's why
But he still whooped miles
@@Dagger722When?
@@Thebeatkicksin spiderman 2 I think that’s what he’s talking about
@@Dagger722didn’t miles had a huge advantage because of the bell if the fight carried on Peter would’ve won mile was extremely lucky that Peter didn’t kill him cause with the power he had at the time he wouldn’t be able to hold a candle to Peter
"Ugh, I hate when they team up"
A quote I vividly remember from Peter after the Vulture and Electro boss fight.
But there have never been six
@el_retirado_capitanreferencias indicating he's always struggled getting jumped by multiple strong and fast foes.
You also forget ‘but they always got to upgrade’
"Pizza Parker" 💀💀💀
“It’s pizza time.”
😂
He still managed to beat most of them in 2v1 fights. Thank God they were in the air long enough for Peter’s healing factor to fully fix him up.
If they actually played both games and pay attention to the scenes then maybe this will debunk the whole "nerf" argument. 😂
Less of a nerf more of a weird back seating
Either that or Peters missions and side content was just less interesting
@@c.o7993nah
Nah Peter was nerfed hard
@@ashtonxprime7355If in the first game he is too weak, I mean, how hard is it for him to defeat humans without powers?
@@c.o7993Less interesting? What did you want, Morlun?
If peter doesn't holding back, the sinister 6 will not holding back too and peter can possibly won if he focus
Spiderman was also holding back, he always does unless you hurt someone close to him
The 5 were also holding back :)
@@TheGamingRift11They don’t hold back as much as Peter does trust me bloodlusted Peter destroys them and rips their heads off lol
@@TheGamingRift11They broke Peter's 14 bones. Peter doesn't even break anyone's one implies they were holding back but not much nearly even close as Peter does.
Scorpion stabbed in his spine. Rhino regularly was punching and kicking him along with Vulture and Mr Negative.
Then Electro took his chance.
Peter screamed in pain then hearing him, Ock arrived. He grabbed Peter's hand with force and threw him.
It doesn't seem so much holding back.
@@hitendhir9700Spiderman could one shot all of them if he didnt hold back its a fact even in comics like when he rippd Kravens Wifes face off with one singel touch
@@creativenamesmth Yeah people underestimate how powerful Peter is and can be lol
By your same logic Spider-man doesn't fight any of his villains cause he holds back
@@alexdawodu8039 nice strawman fallacy cause literally no one said that 🤷♂️
@@TheGamingRift11hate to be the ERM AKTUALLY guy but it is stated in canon that peter always holds back when facing his villains
We see this when Doc Ock took control of Peter's body and was surprised he took scorpion's chin off and we definitely see this in the countless of timelines where Peter completely lost it
@@afiqzul-star8768 What are you yapping about, Everyone already knows this, Besides it's still not even relevant to what anyone said, Peter Still loses to the sinister six, Rhino alone CAN give Peter at minimum a high diff fight, Add five other people, two of which can also give Peter a high diff fight, He's not winning this
@@TheGamingRift11, part of your argument was that the villains were holding back. He turned it around because Spider-Man often holds back. So, you said it.
@@TheGamingRift11 Imagine calling it a fallacy when he can break bones if he wanted to especially how the symbiote doesn't allow Spider-Man to hold back and if you ever played Spider-Man 2 game then you know that Venom would have killed and torn apart all of the sinister six even if it was venom against six of them at once
But Peter was still able to take Two
Members at once and then had a 1v1 with Mr. negative and Octavius and in those moments they were all intending to kill him I still give peter some credit because he wasn’t fighting them all one at a time and plus he was injured with multiple broken bones.
To be fair he never does, he always gets the six to fight each other
Venom suit spidey was another story tho
Peter beat electro and vulture without making them fight each other so no he doesn’t always do that
@@Thebestleaderinfiction isn’t that just two people? As in not all 5 at once?
@@benjaminhager6285 Yeah but he still held his own against them before he was stabbed by scorpion’s tail which was only because he got caught off guard and it wasn’t really a fair fight for him since there wasn’t enough room to fight on that rooftop
@@Thebestleaderinfiction For 10 seconds, he held his own for 10 seconds, a minute at max. Yes all the odds stacked against him, but he doesn't brute force fights with the sinister six, that's how he loses
Since when do marvel villains or jus5 villains in general fight fairly?smh@Spiderman2910
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Let me just justify this, he was physically unable to do it due to the foundation, it was such a small location so he was unable to fight against them since if he tried to focus on one the other can take him due to the small distance between him and Peter, also remember Peter always holds back.
You seem to forget the fact That he was holding back too”. 😂
@@AndyTinajero okay and the villains were holding back too… your point?
He holds back against everyone…… so no shit?
@@TheGamingRift11 i’m not trying to prove a point i’m just pointing it out idk why you got so offended did someone piss in your cereal?”🤷♂️
@@AndyTinajero so you enjoy pointing out the obvious? 🤔
Also love the immature “piss in cereal” comment. I’d have preferred a constructive comment but thanks for boosting the short anyways
@@TheGamingRift11You got quite an ego huh
@@TheGamingRift11 You didn't have to be so rude about it
You also forget that Peter constantly holds himself back due to his immense power. Much like superman.
Idk why people keep saying this
If he holds back against literally everyone then it’s irrelevant to bring up
@TheGamingRift11 because if he wanted to they would all be dead
lol once doc ock was in spideys body and knocked the scorpions jaw clean off on accident because he didn’t realize how much Peter was holding so your argument is completely disproven
@@cutedog3211Same with electro
@@PatientBePleaseThat doesn’t matter
Sinister Six holds back: 💀
Spider-Man holds back: ☠️ 😈🗿👹
Idk why everyone brings up the holding back thing 🤷♂️
@@TheGamingRift11bc he was bro he never fights serious do you think if he stopped holding back he’s gonna lose? I mean just think abt that
@@satire_jin4397 yes actually. Given how strong the six showed to be. Calm down
@@TheGamingRift11 so that same Spider-Man who can straight up punch a hole through kingpins chest is gonna lose to these guys the whole time he was still making jokes
@@satire_jin4397 that isn’t insom spiderman 🥱
This is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥!
Imagine if Peter didn’t hold back 💀
(Superior Spider-Man)
Well then after that he gets them all in prison with like 16 broken bones two by two when they are trying to kill him
Bro is just running his mouth 💀
? 😂
@@TheGamingRift11 you heard me
@@FunnyRedemption I heard you but I’m still waiting for any objective reasoning or valid points 🤔
@@TheGamingRift11 As valid as yours? Don't think anyone can have such invalid points bro.
@@FunnyRedemption so no valid points then. Gotcha.
Glad that you agree with the short and thank you for boosting it with these comments 🥱
I usee to be the biggest Spider-Man fan in the omniverse, ain't no y'all loony toon even come close to my level and now I hate the character and don't want to be associated with a guy who shares his wife.
As much as I'm against spider, I'm glad there are people in this comment section putting you in your place.
Sinister six weren't holding back against Spider-Man, they just weren't. They fought Spider-Man on regular basis with full power and still lose to him.
Here when Martin says "remember, doc says we need him alive" he's just saying that beat him up good but not to the level where he straight up goes to heaven.
Plus Spider-Man holds back 90% of his powers all the time, that's the whole shtick of the character. If he amps up even just a little bit, we would see the credits rolling after the scene with a tease of Spider-Man 2.
Instead of getting angry and worked up at the comments, do a little bit of research.
What ?
“Instead of getting angry and worked up, do a little bit of research”
Erm take your own advice?
You can cope and deny it all you want but the six were holding back against Pete not just at the raft but at multiple points in the story
And there are several instances the six could’ve killed him if they legitimately wanted him to.
So nice try but it’s wrong
@@TheGamingRift11 research how the f mj is faster then peter in a fridge scene?
Explain why peter has no battle iq only in second game?
How the f he dont dodge lightning in sandman fight while dodging a ton in first game?
How the f miles with 2 years of exp is stronger than pete with 10 and antivenom?
Thats just nerfing peter so sweet babies favourites on miles and mj would look better
“Pizza Parker” 😭🙏
Meanwhile, afterwards with a broken rib he was take them out 2 at a time as they tried to kill him
But Peter is still holding his punches. If he don't, he will easily killed sinister five and left the doc ock because he's late to come.
Sure at the beginning yeah but peter still got beaten half to death, at some point peter was taking the battle seriously if not his battle iq would be below mindless.
People act as if he was some holy god in the first game.
Crazy people still say Peter was nerfed in Spider-Man 2 even when he had to hold his own in this fight ? 🤷
So mj is now a superhuman with combat speed and perception better than a f spider man?
Story nerfed him so sweet baby ideas could be in story
I'm so tired of people saying that, amd also there complaining how peter spider sence isn't working in sm2 but peter literally got hit multiple times here when "he shoudve been able go" I swear people just be operating way too much lately, they think he's some unstoppable being when he isn't 😂
Spider sense is an alarm system, if u have such a thing in ur story it should work consistenly
@@avadanocum6495 it does work consistently
@avadanocum6495 but that don't mean he should be able to dodge everything, another peter fan boy overating him.
@@avadanocum6495 I swear you fan boys are crazy 😂
@@avadanocum6495If you were a Spider-Man fan you’d know it barely even works
Nah if miles was helping peter there cooked
The thing about it
Is this is the first time Peter ever fought a 5v1 battle
And let’s put into consideration Peter was on a roof surrounded and had no where to use his webs in an effective manner
Everyone was holding back
The fact Peter even put up a fight against 5 at the same time for a time
With this being his first 1 v team battle
Does indicate peter can hold his own
Yet was overwhelmed due to being surrounded(something I think wouldn’t happen if he wasn’t in the roof)
And mind you
You can argue if Peter actually wanted to say kill some of these villains in in one punch it would be 4 of the 5
With only scorpion and rhino being the biggest threats of the 6
Due to his posion or rhinos durability
Otto is kinda a weird case since Peter if he was at 100% I argue wouldn’t even need anti ock suit to beat Otto
The rest he can fight and beat without much problem
Since when Peter fights them again it’s implied they aren’t holding back anymore where Peter still is, while fatigued and injured during the fights afterwards
It’s possible in different circumstances say in the streets of New York where Peter is at 100% and the villains are tying to kill
It wouldn’t be representative of his roof fight since it was very circumstantial
Like not even 616 or ultimate Spider-Man in the comics can 1v6 them his very first fight and even his second fight was hard and he couldn’t take them all at once
It’s only when Peter plans things out preps or goes all out does he 1v6 and wins
Trying to say insom Peter bested the 6 without issue would be wrong
Yet trying to say he couldn’t beat them if the circumstance where different would be just as wrong
Since this is like asking any version of Spider-Man to somehow beat their sinister 6 the during the very first encounter off rip
Which is not only unrealistic
But would take away the stakes of the story
I mean it’s fiction so it’s not supposed to be realistic Peter has done a bunch of feats in the comics that’s impossible for any street level hero to do and 616 peter and ultimate Peter actually have defeated the entire sinister six at the same time by themselves in the comics but not in their first encounter but they did 1v6 them in the comics when they got better with their powers and they hold back a lot just like insomniac peter does
@@Thebestleaderinfiction that’s my point
We can’t say insom can or can’t beat the 6 1v6
But based on the second game and the idea peter can one shot most people at base
For instance you can say he can crush vultures skull which his head is exposed
Scorpion he could punch his jaw off like the comics since he is human with a suit that makes him superhuman
Mr negative Peter beats even while holding back so it’s safe to say if he wanted to kill Li he could at base
Elector Peter can beat and sub-do with his only real issue being if elector stops being an idiot and uses his powers properly
Otto you can say Peter base can beat Otto without anti ock since Peter was injured and fatigued which is why he needed anti ock
But let’s not pretend even at base while injured and fatigued one clean shot to Otto’s body and he is dead
With rhino even comic Peter is terrified of yet beats him when he doesn’t hold back
So who is to say insom Peter can’t beat rhino
Especially when in game he had to fight scorpion and rhino at the same time
People can’t act like peter didn’t fight them at the same time
Even while looking at cutscenes both rhino and scorpion are down suits sparking
Implying Peter did down both of them before they started fighting eachother
It’s a case base Peter has shown he can beat the 6 back to back even when they go all out when Peter isn’t at 100% and holds back
Meaning if he were to go all out against the 6
He properly could beat them but it wouldn’t be easy
I mean people like to say kraven beat the 6
Saying base peter can’t beat kraven
Kraven prepped for each member and fought them individually at a time
If he didn’t prep for say scorpion and was poisoned I doubt kraven would no diff scorpion like he did
It’s a case kraven makes it so he isn’t outclassed by his opponent yet will do what he can to win while they are at their best
Hence his saying only an equal may kill him
Like I’m of the belief if base Peter wants to he can’t beat kraven and miles
It wouldn’t be easy
Yet people act like Peter gets no diff by miles and Kraven
Miles struggles against Mr negative who didn’t want to kill and miles was nearly bloodlusted
Base peter while injured and fatigued holding back beat and arguably stronger Mr negative who was bloodlusted
Kraven never actually outperforms anything base Peter or miles has done in strength or durability
Him fighting black suit Spider-Man doesn’t count since Peter is established to subconsciously hold back all the time and would logically be more so in a suit that makes him stronger
I would also like to add that my boy Peter slept once in this whole entire fucking game. He did not rest for days, he didn’t really eat or drink anything. This man is long over due for one regular ass day. (If you’re taking the missions and peoples play style into consideration since it would technically be different multiverse same fucking dude)
@@ATalesTruth-Exactly 💯 and one more point Black Suit Peter still held Kraven without tendrils and matched his strength in Church and only abused it in the end when he was internally very well conflicted
Implying
All his feats without tendrils are his simple strength.
This isnt the first time fighting him, when you do the backpack collectibles it will jave items that contribute with peters other fights with these villains such as the rhino horn that peters says "almost killed him"
Aight but then he fought them off like 2v1 with 14 broken bones
People also forget he was holding back and always does
He was holding back
pov peter stops holding back punches:
Even so his reflexed arent impacted and the only characters hed be able to one shot would be the vulture. If he had taken the battle seriously at the nothing would change as doc ock would have gotten involved and beaten peter along with rhino.
You underestimate the power of the jumping
In short, and for all of you to cry.
SM2 Peter Parker >>> SM1 Peter Parker
While you are right,Spider-Man also holds back as he does not want to kill anybody.
I think he one time ripped kraven’s daughter’s head off with his bear hands
I mean even with his spider Sense, getting attacked by all his enemies on such a small platform, it was guaranteed they were gonna land a critical blow at some point. Had this been wide open he might have stood a chance.
Yeah that's the reason they won because they literally jumped him
These villains never fight fair 🤷♂️
Life if boys:
Well isn’t Spidey always holding back?
The 5 did too
Why can’t people simply understand that the point you’re making isn’t that he didn’t fight the members of the Sinister 6, but that he didn’t fight “The Sinister 6”. As in the group at the same time, come on guys this isn’t that hard to get
Bro ,he got nerfed
What proof do you have ?
Any actual points? Or just regurgitating the stereotypical narrative floating around??
Everyone be forgetting Hero’s like Spider-Man and Superman be pulling their punches they never go full strength unless they know someone will survive it
That still doestn excuse peter getting hit by them, he may have been pulling his punchds but that doesnt mean he slowed himself intentionally down he had spidey sense yet stil got tapped by scorpion.
Peter never try to kill, it’s the same
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Peter holds back as well
And based on we know his punches can be fatal and he managed to land some hits
But tbh "spider man" always holds back even when he is losing so it's as if he never was that strong to begin with
Ngl he was doing well imo before he got stabbed
Not exactly 🤷♂️ and they weren’t trying to kill him either. If anything they were toying with him
@TheGamingRift11 Yeah, they could have just all jumped at him at the same time
@owlomar2007And they would have hurt each other at same time
@@TheGamingRift11He was doing better, he tagged Scorpion kicking Vulture very hard too and probably was going to stun Rhino for good if not for Vulture taking him into air.
He still solos the live action trio 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@@deadsoul7409 disagreement day tomorrow!! I don’t mind discussing the topic
Well you know spiderman always holds back so he doesn't kill villans right?😂😂
Bro do you have any idea what would have happened to those 5 if peter didn't hold back 😂
That sentence could be used in reverse.
What would’ve happened to Pete if all 6 were there and they actually wanted him dead
@@TheGamingRift11If Peter used all his strength first of all Vulture will be down instantly with head butt punch or kick
Electro then next would be done with 2 or 3 punches since he at least has building level durability
Next is Ock, the weakest durability he just needs to get him and he did so many times in game
Then Mister Negative, he is enhanced but got whooped by holding back Peter both times no diff case
Now heavy hitters, Scorpion has tougher armour but Peter has better striking strength feats, and he has beaten him in past too as well in PS4 game along with Rhino
Mac is probably the least skilled out of them too
The most difficult would be Rhino to kill, but Peter was soloing him with broken bones he can again so by throwing a car stunning him hitting him with full force
So all are down
Wait till he stop pulling punches
Isn't this supposed to be basic knowledge? Why do people think Peter fought the Sinister Six here???
Also, for your next Gamingrift short, can you do this next?: Peter Parker was not against Miles and here is why.
I might do Symbiote Pete Vs Kraven first as I’m trying to do them in order. But make no mistake the Pete Vs Miles one is on the horizon
"pizza parker"
Did people forget that he had multiple broken bones, or was that after
That was after
People act like bro is cosmic spiderman
He just hast fought them in a long time, that’s probably why
U do understand peter always holds back so that means he wasnt going all out lets see what would happen if he did go all out
He has fought them all before thats why they were at the raft there were even newspaper articles in doc ocks room about peter fighting them
That's what i was thinking too because if i remember right he says to vulture or electro on how they've done this many times or something
@@mrblackopjay5238 yeah and one of the backpacks have some refrences to them fighting
Yeah dude you were not cooking at all with this one 😔
How so?
@@TheGamingRift11I don't really understand the point you were trying to make.
1.) As many in the comment section have pointed out, peter also holds himself back because of his no-kill rule. He's always holding back.
2.) It was a 6 v 1 so yeah he's on the defensive but nevertheless he still tried his best to fight back.
If he doesn't fight the sinister six... who is he fighting here?? It is very confusing man seems like clickbait tbh
@ChromaticVenom1 he only fought 5 of the 6 since doc only showed up later after peter was beaten
Peter although probably held back at the start to say he maintained this statement would be unfactual as that means peter battle iq us so bad hed rather die than take a fight seriously.
They were jumping his ass
My point is this a veteran Spider-Man he should win no diff
@@TrayeusJackson-my4mk he’s never fought them all at once before?
He’s got a lot of experience taking them on in 1v1s but that’s about it
@@TheGamingRift11 are you dumb? He still hoes back on him in his spectacular Spider-Man with the black suit on Peter as a high school learn.😂😂😂 he absolutely destroyed them and this is a battle test Spider-Man
No miles should be stronger(bc sweet baby was involved in development thats all the reason)
I mean this version of Spider-Man was always gonna lose but considering that Scorpion and Rhino are stated to be physically stronger than spidey outright and the fact that Peter was forced to fight bigger guys in a small space, unlucky. I reckon Parker would've faired better with more room to divide and conquer till either Electro or Vulture dragged him back to the rest of the group to be overwhelmed and incapacitated.
Scorpion everytime was getting his ass kicked to him by Peter, Peter is stronger than Scorpion but Scorpion is tougher due to armour and heavy which have no impact of bullets.
Rhino is outright stronger than Spider-Man
Scorpion has no lifting and striking feats better than Peter.
Nice to know there’s at least one person who knows how to use their brain
tbf he didn't have much space and they were cornering him plus he was new to fighting some of them before
I think he had a chance at besting vulture first.
Well he did fight them, he just didn’t win against them.
If he wasnt holding back by the time Ock is there half of them are gone😂😂
Ik he holds back to save ppl even his villains but liek 5 of them at the same time it's obvious he's gonna die
The villains were also holding back
He still got low diffed even if he was holding back it goes to show he has negative iq if he was willing to die than go full out.
And even if he was pulling his punches that doesnt explain how scorpion off guarded him when he has spidey sense.
@@nani4249 🤦♂️
Doc oc 1 electro 2 mr negative 3 rhino 4 scorpion 5 vulture 6 that’s pretty much 6
Doc Ock showed up at the end of the fight bro 💀
Yes he could kill them all in one shot easily if he wasn’t holding back
He’s not a killer
Not the rhino, he definitely could have taken out martin and the vulture though but even when he wasnt taking the fight seriously at the beginning he still ended up on the floor getting his back blown out by electro
Peter at the point in time would've never won if the sinister six were together, even in the actual boss fights against the group they were all split in duos.
Electro+Vulture
Rhino+Scorpion
Mr. Negative+Doc Ock
Peter never fights the full six at once, I do think in 2 Peter with the symbiote/Anti Venom he could very possibly beat the six.
As Kraven shows how he can no diff Scorpion who's arguably one of the strongest members since he consistently gives both spider-men trouble along with able to handle a beating in an enclosed area from the Rhino.
Especially when most main villains in 2 are portrayed as greater threats than the six which is only logical for any storytelling that later villains >> previous villains.
People overhype Peter's fights against the six as if he 1v6 them. He was still impressive but not to the extent people pretend it is in comparison to the second game.
Yes, it was impressive but I actually think like Spectacular Spider-Man, if he would fight Sinister Six in the city with more space and holding back very less even agreed to injure him no matter what.
He would have a chance to win.
"He fought the sinister 6!"
Held up against 5
Took the first 4, 2 by 2
Took Li 1v1, took Otto 1v1.
DOUBLE UPLOAD!!!
Funny how these guys plan was literally just to jump him
In the comics, the first time the sinister six formed, Doctor Octopus had each villain try to take Spider-man one on one so he he's too tired to fight the last one (him) and Vulture says "why can't we just attack him all at once" to which doc ock says "nah, that's stupid". And sure enough, after they are in jail spider-man says "you know, if you guys were smart and jumped me all at once, I might have been in some trouble. But thanks for the workout"
@@dr.curtisconnors3914 why the hell is he the leader of the sinister six
@@ishaqedrees5849i think it’s because he’s the smartest
@@marckurosaki8532 he literally said its a stupid plan to jump spiderman all at once when the vulture suggested that
@@ishaqedrees5849 hey that’s true he’s a dumbass how did he became the boss of sinister six.
He was trying to just get them to jail plus he was tired because 4 of them tired him out before the fight
Respectfully I disagree, peter 100% put up a fight against them even if it was short. Saying it wasn't a fight at all is definitely weird, but regardless as shown in the game he got bodied fighting all of them and proceeded to get his lick back so it is what it is
I mean he did have 14 broken bones
"PETE WAS NERFED CAUSE HE COULD FIGHT THE SIX IN THE FIRST GAME"
Sure... Sure XD
He's put them in prison twice once before and after
The individuals yes, the group? No
@@TheGamingRift11 fair point but still shows he is capable of taking them down individually more than once ig
Im sure he would have at least held his own better if the area they were fighting on Wasn't so small.
And if there was more swinging opportunities since being airborne counters Rhino and Scorpion more effectively
@@TheGamingRift11Space was very less it's the main fault Peter lost
Spider man hold back as well
brother he only lost because of scorpion, he was literally winning the fight
Exactly he lost because the number of villains he was facing and scorpion was just the lucky one to get the cheap shot. Peter although wasnt punching at his maximum here he was still using his full power to dodge and even with spidey sense he couldn't dodge scorpion hit.
Scorpion wasnt even the strongest here as well, with both electro and rhino being above him.
And dont forget he only thought 5 villains at the same time as otto wasnt involved till the very end where he was already taken out.
All of these villain's are alot closer to peter compared to the comics so not being able to take out all 5 isnt an anti feat hes just getting jumped
Yes but they still try its not like they are giving him love taps
Bro spider man was holding back he could’ve killed them but he was holding back all his strength
Nobody gave me the faith of a one on one,
Is he nerfed in the games that hard? In the comics, when doc oc takes over his body he punches lizards jaw clean off.
Completely different context 🤷♂️
@@TheGamingRift11he was also holding back
Miles with 2 years of exp is stronger than pete with 10 and antivenom suit against venom.
Mj reacts to venom attack that pete didnt, he in black suit not having control couldnt kill her. When venom minions took over the sity mj oneshots them with her pistol while spiders have to use 10+hits.
And peter acts like an idiot in a lot of combat scenatious
But you have to understand that the field was too small for a fight and he couldn’t move freely
What ? Yeah no, peter still had an entire island to move around, the sinister six beats him easily.
Good opinion, great evidence, but he did fight the six
Isn't Peter technically holding back because if we went all out when he punch a guy's jaw off
He fights them, just not succesfully. Doc Ock Shows up at the end. Stop nitpicking.
I don’t see how they were holding back they were going tuff on him yea sure they weren’t going to kill him but they were probably using all their strength to knock him out
but then he beat them (by grups)when they intented to kill sm when he had fourteen broken bones
Honestly. He was holding back too still, which is kinda weird. But I'm convinced if Peter wasn't holding back he would've destroyed them. Like he did in Marvel Zombies, although he did just bite them and it's not even the same version so yuh. But honestly I dont think he could beat them, they had great coordination and it wasn't even fair. But symbiote/anti venom would body them all imo
Insomniac peter not holding back would decimate them he doesn’t need anti venom to destroy them and it doesn’t matter if it was zombie Peter that killed them regular Peter can do that easily he has way better feats and scales higher
True he is multi-city level more than MCU who are building level+ at least.
Nah, Id Win
@@Thebestleaderinfiction also comics are usually op. so i just thought he would scale highr than insom lmfao
Dok ock makes it the sinister six
Shit they all should’ve just traveled together
Song name???
Bloody Mary
Thanks
Just pull an Arkham Batman
Yes he did
@@silverv1997 no he did not. I fought the villains in a series of 1v1s or 1v2s / not all at once
@@TheGamingRift11 yeah but you said "he did not fight the sinister six". He did fight them, just not all at once
Doesnt spider-man hold back so he doesnt kill from pure strength? I mean yeah he seemed to struggle but he couldve maybe actually tried?
I don’t get it he got jumped, what’s there to explain?
If only Pete had an ability to help prevent him being jumped……..
Nothings coming to mind 🤷♂️
That is still a fight against them not a good one but a fight none the less
Broo Spider Man always holds back. He doesn't want to kill his villain
So it’s an irrelevant point 🤷♂️
What is relevant however is that for the first time that we know of, the villains didn’t want Pete dead yet they still humbled him 🤷♂️
I’m so fucking sick of people acting like Peter is One Punch Man. The only time people actually provide evidence for this is either when Superior Spider-Man knocked Scorpion’s jaw off, which that is a completely different Spider-Man and he didn’t kill him, and when he beat the shit out of Kingpin, which is also a different Spider-Man and Kingpin had no armour. To say that he can kill anyone with one punch because of examples that don’t apply to any Spider-Man and don’t apply to foes with armour is exhausting to see all the time
@Shonin23 No, he holds back that's a thing in his character No matter the timeline
@Shonin23 and yes, he can kill most of his enemies with almost one punch
@@narutothewolf7206
I’m not arguing against him holding back. I’m arguing that he can’t kill anyone in one punch. Read.
is your whole acc satire?
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